At this point I feel that HasLab needs to pick an affordable price point and give fans as much as they can for their money. If they try for a $400 price point a Giant Man will not get funded regardless of tiers.
I agree! I wouldn’t back a character that I know only by name and prolly 60% of Marvel fans have no clue who it is lol respect, but much better characters out there by far!
I’d go for a commander rogers solo fig then a two pack of Steve cap with that shield that can separate and Sam cap with his wings and his new shield he has in the books and a lil falcon to perch on his forearm. Pair these with the new Vulcan Bucky cap, it’ll look siiiiiiiiiick
Great video! If the HasLab is Giant-Man, it really needs to be Giant-Man AND Wasp. Janet is nowhere to be seen so far during this anniversary year - and it's her 60th anniversary as well. If Jan is simply just a tier or an early bird figure, that would be really insensitive on Hasbro's part to make the only female founder a throwaway offering. Jan deserves the spotlight, just like the guys. Also, this could give Hasbro two new bodies paid for by us - the giant size male and a shorter adult female buck, since Jan is supposed to be shorter than the usual Marvel female.
Oh, I've gotta assume they're putting Wasp in there right with Hank. Maybe not even as a tier. And they definitely need a shorter female buck for Wasp!
Totally agree with most of what you're saying except the Jarvis. I think it would be more of a layup for Hasbro to just throw in a tier one Hank Pym. We had the lab coat Mister Fantastic and we are getting the Bruce Banner so they will not miss the opportunity to reuse those for Hank.
Things I expect Hasbro to do here: 1. Price the item at around $350 to $400, a price point they know we have been willing to pay for giant sized figures before . No way they walk the price back at this point.$350 to $400 is a lock . 2. Expect one of the tiers to be a gold repaint of the MK 1 Iron Man. For as much drawing power as Hank and Janet have , I believe Hasbro will want to try and make this appeal to as many fans as possible , similar to how they tried to shoehorn Maddie into the Hell Charger. Tony naturally fits with this classic Avenger theme and I think we all have known a gold repaint is inevitable since the MK 1 was shown . 3. There will be no Early Bird goal. For as many missteps as the Hell Charger campaign had, none was more damning than taking away the civilian Robbie figure because the project didn't fund in the first week. Given the high price point this project will carry , there is no chance Hasbro will want to repeat the perception of decreased value again. 4. It will be close, but it will fund. The higher price point is just the way things are now. Everyone will complain every day about the price during the campaign but it won't have the problems gaining momentum that the HC did. 5. Either a classic Janet or civilian Hank Pym will be included in the package from the get go. Final tier guesses: Gold Iron Man MK 1, Yellow jacket, 12 inch Goliath , Zombie Giant Man Head
I can just hear the comments of folks complaining Zombie Giant Man isn't accurate since his head would be the only zombified portion. Hasbro could really wish some negative goodwill putting gold Iron Man in that HasLab and would put themselves in a corner if it didn't fund so we could "never" get gold Mark II.
Excellent video LMF. How could anyone debate this list? With Dwight's subtle IG hint, who else could he be referring to? I am praying that the popularity of the Avengers propels the Haslab program from the damages caused by the EoV campaign to our community. I would not be disappointed if a Hank Pym related Haslab is proposed. This issue that concerns me dearly is the funding price Hasbro will ask. I fear the price tag ticket shock of the EoV was just the beginning. I will be disappointed if the Giant-Man Haslab is $350.
Thanks Jay. They can't mess this up with a silly price point. The sweet spot for a non-complex mold -- even larger size -- shouldn't be more than $250 even if you're accounting for all the tiers.
Here’s what I’m envisioning: A 24 inch (that’s 10 inches taller than the Toybiz BAF) CLASSIC Giant Man with no lights or electronics for $300-$350 Giant Man doesn’t need lights or electronics, so that’s an easy way to keep the price down. And while I personally would like Giant Man as big as possible, I understand that a slightly smaller figure at a more reasonable price would make it easier for people to pull the trigger And like you pointed out, it absolutely has to be his classic design. The people who are willing to pay hundreds of dollars for Haslab items are the same people who are hardcore Marvel fans, and hardcore fans will always gravitate towards iconic and classic looks Basically, there’s 2 things I want out of this: I want it to be noticeably bigger than the Toybiz BAF, and I want all of the costume details of Giant Man’s classic costume to be sculpted on (the gloves, boots, chest straps, mask details, etc.). If it’s just a big blank body with minimal sculpting, it’s going to look terrible
You've got it Juan. The way too much disposable income crowd skews more classic with the outfits and he will definitely need to have those costume elements sculpted.
If they go with the modern (red & Black) uniform the tiers could include both a Lang & Malhotra head - so people might buy three to get all three versions of the modern Giant Man and you know Hasbro loves it when we army build. I like your idea too, because I really want a Barton Goliath.
I'm curious. Do you think Malhotra has a big (pun not intended) fanbase enough to sell in a HasLab? I really want to get that Barton Goliath eventually.
Some interesting ideas Lyle. Whichever version of Giant Man/Goliath they go with, I think an unmasked head option with the cowl round his neck would be cool. At first I was against a first appearance Wasp being included, but as she has so many costumes, I don't really mind. The Ultron MK 1 is a cool idea. Jarvis maybe, although a 2 pack with a civilian Steve Rogers or Tony Stark might be good. Someone else mentioned a normal sized Hank in his costume with a lab coat. I'd like that.
I need to fire my branding team for everyone thinking my first name is Lyle. I dug that cowl down look when George Perez did it so I'd definitely be down for that as an option. We got the lab coat version with the MU line so it'd be nice to see that in this scale!
Hey JL, a nice video and tier ideas! A HasLab Giant man would be cool. The Toybiz Giant man looks fine, but the articulation (legs) is pretty bad. I would be good with a new 12-16 inch classic or modern Giant man with the Wasp to keep the price reasonable. As for tiers, a new Yellow Jacket is needed, and an 8-10" Clint Barton Goliath would be a home run for me!
The Toybiz giant man is 16" tall, I would lean towards 24" for the Haslab for more size separation. It would be surprising if this Haslab was less than $350. I want the figure so badly, Hasbro is unlikely to price me out. I like your tiers, Goliath would be the most important to me, at 12-14". Based on the Super Adaptoid, I am assuming 12".
Thanks. I don't think Goliath, Black Goliath, Hawkeye Goliath, etc. need to be in the 18" range to look impressively taller based on that Super Adaptoid.
Love the video, as always. You and I are on the same page regarding Giant Man's height. I do not want Hasbro making him three feet tall just because they can. He can still tower over the Avengers and be dwarfed by Galactus; that preserves the majesty of the Devourer of Worlds (and the Sentinel too). So yeah, somewhere in that 18-24 inches ballpark is good with me, and as you stated, which I totally agree with, his costume isn't complicated so the sculpt and production should be comparatively easy. As a fan, I really, really want a classic Wasp and Yellowjacket, but I can see fans complaining if they were only available as HasLab tiers when they could be sold at Target for the normal price. (Speaking of which, I'm not so sure that won't happen. Walmart and Target both have collector cons coming up and we don't know what the Marvel Legends product will be... at least I don't think we do... but I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get a classic solo release Wasp just like we got Ant-Man.) That said, I like the other ideas. I like the idea of getting Jarvis. I also like the Goliath tier, as he would also be a simple build; just scale up the standard buck to 12-13 inches as you said. Great idea! What I would love them to do, however, is spend some of that extra $$$ on tooling articulated miniature Ant-Man and Wasp figures. In 1984, Mattel made Wheeled Warrior toys based on the cartoon Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors. The human driver figures were small, only about an inch, I think (???) but they could move their arms and legs. And that was nearly 40 years ago!!! Tell me Hasbro, with the HasLab production budget and skills, couldn't make an articulated Pym Posse!
Thanks so much Ryan! We both know that some collectors are gonna complain regardless even if it was Hawkeye in that gaudy archer suit. The beauty of The Wasp is they could always crank out multiple versions of her and it'd work. She's certainly got enough costumes! I'd love to see a poseable mini-Ant-Man and Wasp, but with Howard the Duck that has me worried they wouldn't be able to figure it out ;-)
Dope shirt! Where did you find it? Tell me the secret! 🤣 You hit all the right points as far as Giant Man, if it happens. As cool as a Giant Man HasLab would be, the scale and value has to be there. A figure 3-4x the size of a standard ML figure would be fine with me but the extras have to be relevant and necessary to Avengers lore. Wrap it all up for under $180 and I'll cancel some other preorders to clear up my budget for it. We will soon see.
That one I got from FYE/Hot Topic during the peak of Infinity War hype. Haven't seen it since! www.hottopic.com/product/marvel-avengers-infinity-war-team-cap-t-shirt-hot-topic-exclusive/11409447.html It's out of stock, but you never know... I hope this isn't ridiculously expensive!
Agreed that it is probably Giant Man. Definitely a Classic Avengers 4 cover Wasp (would they give us other Kirby inspired Avengers as unlocks?). From there, a series of 12 inch big men could be interesting (Hawkeye Goliath, Bill Foster). Wouldn't mind a Giant Man zombie head in a callback to the 2005-2009 comic.
The Black and Blue costume add-ons is a good idea. They need to go back to their 1970s designs and make a soft goods costume. The black part of the costume could be all one stretchy cloth piece that is put on via the legs and pulled up over the arms. It would be attached in the back with a thin strip of velcro (it was metal snaps in the 70s). A softer blue plastic chest piece pulled down over the head or neck if the head is popped off. The helmet would be a slightly firmer blue plastic or a head swap. The white belt could be a wrap around with a button buckle in the front. I think it should be a tier unlock, not a early-bird special.
my take is that maybe hasbro should do multiple 12-15 inch figures? maybe a 12-inch giant man, a 12-inch hank pym goliath, then either a 12-inch black goliath or clint barton goliath. then the tiers would be yellowjacket, wasp, and a either a 6-inch black goliath or clint goliath (whichever they pick as the 12 incher, the other would be a 6-incher)
I genuinely don't think Giant Man should be a HasLab, but it looks like it's gonna be that. Hopefully he isn't more than $200 and even that is pushing it IMO. For Tiers I really don't think Classic Wasp and Yellowjacket should be tiers as those are characters and costumes that a lot of people want but locking it behind a $200+ Haslab is a bad idea. Jarvis and Mk1 Ultron is perfect though. I really like the idea of a new blank body for 12 inch scale figures is great and I think a 12 figure as a stretch goals would make paying $200 an easy justification. Personally I'd use Wasp but not that classic firat costume, I think it would be better to use pretty much any other costume, something super fans would want like I think she had a blue outfit that was pretty much the classic costume but blue and with no pointy cowl, or maybe we just get like a normal Janet Van Dyne figure along with a normal Lab Coat Hank Pym? And while I know it's not everyone's favorite I think the Hank Pym Wasp would be a decent tier pick, because I don't think that outfit is popular enough to really deserve a normal spot, but is niche enough to be a decent stretch goal. Edit: Oh and they NEED to show ALL the stretch goals from the get go. No more of this revealing them as they are unlocked/they get desperate for backers.
$200 for a Giant Man is more than pushing it, I'd argue $150 is the MAX value of the base product. Hear me out: What you're likely going to get is an oversized Bucky Cap or Vulcan mold, with little paint and details. Articulation will likely not be emphasized, which I can understand is not as important for the bigger characters... Basically, this will be the simplest and cheapest haslab to create, so $$$ is definitely going to be what justifies the purchase for most.
@@ReeceHoward06 $150 would be a perfect price for an 18-20 inch Giant-Man IMO, no more than $100 for a 12 inch. If all the Stretch goals are just normal 6 inch figures $200 is pushing it unless the figures are all great. If they made a Stretch Goal a 12 figure $200 is a good deal for everything you get. This is why revealing ALL the stretch goals from the get go is so important. If we know everything we are going to get at the max amount of backers it will make more people at least back it to try and reach the goal. The Hell Charger wasn't great but I think knowing everything we could have got from the get go might have helped it, but honestly I don't think it was going to happen regardless. Given the articulation of the last 2 Haslabs I don't think Giant Man would suffer much as he doesn't have large shoulder pads or waist armor pieces to limit anything, and there isn't a lot of sculpt detail needed for Giant Man, but doesn't mean they couldn't add some stitching sculpt detail in places. Personally I think Giant Man as a Haslab is really dumb and unnecessary, mostly because I just don't see anyone really genuinely wanting a 24-30 inch Giant Man. I think people are so starved for a good giant sized Giant Man that they will buy into an overpriced Haslab just to get what might be the only way they think they can get it. Honestly even 18-20 inch just seems too big. I'm a hardliner for them bringing back the 12 inch Legends, but using it as a series to make just larger giant sized characters like Giant Man, Goliath, Atlas etc.
@@The_Rage_Kage Im with you there. If they push it as a package deal, it could justify $200. Otherwise, I see it failing or stalling outside of hardcore collectors because the lack of polish and effort for the absurd prices is currently killing the Legends line.
The price is gonna be the biggest element here. Jan has plenty of outfits that would work for a tier. I'm not wedded to the classic one for the HasLab.
Great ideas! I really think it's going to be Giant-Man. The quinjet would just be too big and I think they're scared of getting burned over a vehicle again. I've been using that "Giagantic Battlers" Goliath (red and blue) as my default Hank Pym for a while now. It's okay, but the articulation really isn't there so I'd love a new Giant-Man or Goliath to take his place and a first appearance Wasp and a Yellowjacket would just be icing on the cake.
They shouldn’t do an early bird because if it doesn’t fund in time, it backfires in terms of support. Also, announce all the tier items and unlock goals on day one. They tried to keep the tier unlocks as a mystery so they can “pivot”, but that also backfired on them.
Making the tiers a mystery is not a good idea. That only works if the project is close and needs a bump to drive backers. The early birds have worked out successfully for some projects, but one that's so contingent on getting funded like Robbie, will definitely kill interest in the overall project.
Jarvis would be Perfect for the early bird special. Not too obscure and bland that no one would care, but not too hype and needed that if we didn't get him it would be a loss or cripple the project.
Giant Man needs to be as big as the Sentinel because I feel he can grow that big and size up to a giant robot. Also it needs to be at the same price. Or less if it’s cheaper. The reason why the Hell Charger failed is because Hasbro included the price of the Tier onto the figure making the set not worth the price anymore. Tier should be a plus. No matter if we unlock 1 Tier, no tier or all tier, the price will remain a price worth the figure on its own.
The Sentinel was $350 but that was likely due to all the gears and mechanical parts/light-up functions. That won't be needed for Hank so hoping he's $100 cheaper.
It may be cool and a lot of ppl want it, but I have absolutely no tie in with the character or figure. I’d rather see them do one that will sell out, with Fing Fang Foom! Would’ve been a much better choice, for all collectors! Giant Man is very niche for collectors! The buy it all guys will grab I instantly, but collections like me, won’t bite if we don’t see figures and characters we know and can relate with. Cool, just wouldn’t be my choice! Next, they’ll be dropping BAF figures, as the Spider-Man wave is proof of that! Appreciate your videos! :)
Dude, Fin Fang Foom is WAY more niche than Giant Man lol. Like, astronomically so. The guy has only popped up here and there over the last 60 years. Giant Man on the other hand is a founding Avenger and is THE premier “big” hero in Marvel. It’s fine if you subjectively think he’s a boring design, but he’s WAY more notable than Fin Fan Foom is
Like Juan said, I think FFF would be a harder sell and probably easier for collectors to avoid getting unless he had some crucial tier options. I'm very much not a fan of dropping BAFs.
Giant Man should be cheaper than the Sentinel, he is going to have much less detailing. I don't see how alternate heads would make sense. It doesn't need to light up. Its would basically be an upscaled Vulcan or RYV buck. I would pay around $200-$250 for a Classic Giant-man the size of the Haslab Sentinel with some 6" bonus figures thrown in. I think the biggest problem with a Giant-Man figure is figuring out which costume to use. It changed a lot and everyone has their favorite costume they want to see, so Hasbro is only going to be able to please a small number of people. Unless he has alternate clothes like a Barbie doll or 12" GI Joe. A lot of the figures they come out with are only accurate to a handful of comic panels and that's not as big a deal for $20 figures, but would I pay Haslab prices for a figure like that? I'm not so sure. I don't see this being a runaway hit like the Sentinel and Galactus.
His costume changes are the sticky point. I think the best way to work around it is to use the tier for a blank body like Goliath where Hasbro could roll out other costume variations down the road.
The only gripe that I had with the Engine of Vengeance was the price. If it was a hundred dollars less than what they were wanting originally, then I would've backed it without feeling like I was getting cheated out of a hundred dollars. As for Giant Man, I always felt that Hasbro could've released him as a deluxe figure or in a 12-Inch scale like their icon figures.
Agreed, that extra $100 pushed me over the edge for the EOV as well. I'm thinking HasLab for Giant Man more so for the potential of working in other giant figures as tiers.
To add into your Jarvis/Ultron 2 pack suggestion, how about making a Crimson Cowl clothe cape. I wouldn't mind a Hank Pym WCA jumpsuit as the early bird. I do like the rest of the ideas about the Goliaths. I would still like to pick up a Valkyrie (Defenders) with Aragorn, a 70's Son of Satan or a Devil-Slayer with his sword and ax.
Yessss! Crimson Cowl look would be awesome. Red jumpsuit Hank is definitely on my wishlist too. Maybe Valkyrie and SOS could work as Pulse deluxe sets?
As a lifelong Avengers and Hank Pym fan, getting my backing on this Haslab should be a layup. There’s only one problem. I love my Toy Biz Giant Man BAF, and space is becoming an issue. So here’s what I need. I need this to come in at $300 or less. I’m not going above that for a character/costume that I already have. I agree that there’s no need to add a lot of bells and whistles to this figure. Keep it simple, and keep the cost down. Let’s not do an Early Bird. That just irritates fans. I love the idea of a classic Wasp and Yellowjacket as tiers , but I think if you really want to get things cooking, make the other tier the West Coast Avengers version of Hank. Let the final tier be the parts to build the alternate costume. I think it’s important that all the tiers be Hank and Jan centric. Do that, or something very similar, and I think you’ve got a home run.
I agree with you that if ever that the new haslab is Giantman it should not be in the same size of Sentinel, i'm good with 17-20inches giantman perhaps lower the price as well just like what the Transformer haslab did with Victory Sabre.
I've been pretty vocal online, speaking against the idea of a Giant Man Haslab (see my other comments on LMF on this topic). Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but I wouldn't trust Hasbro to be able to deliver on it. That said, if they actually managed to present the project in a way that you laid it out then I would back it. I don't expect they'll be to, but we'll see. Here's where I think they'll go wrong. I get the vibe from Marvel that they set the price first, then work from there. So I fully expect this to be $400, and then they'll try to scale him up or pack in a bunch of useless fluff to justify the price. Second, I don't see them ever giving us a 12" figure as a pack in. Adaptoid is rumored to be $80, and he's even a retool. There's no way they'll pack something like that. I think he's going to be too big, too expensive, with some mediocre tiers that are cheap for them to produce, and that's why I don't have the faith that they will do it right. That's why I say don't do it, and just give us an 18" retail Gaint Man. But we'll see.
Yeah, the price is absolutely gonna be key. They can't go overboard and try to cash out on a HasLab in this financial climate. I really hope they try for a lower HasLab as this would be an ideal time for a $250 one that would sell at a lower price point. Going close to $400 would be death.
I am really hoping the next Marvel Haslab is a Giant Man AND Black Goliath. Now that I would gladly spend $350 on if it came with some outstanding tiers!
Great video Jeffrey. I like your ideas but I'm too sour at Hasbro to agree. Giant Man will be at least 400.00 and it will be 3,000 between the tiers. Engine of Vengeance taught them nothing.
My main caveat to all of that is the price. If they go excessive with the price it's just not gonna work at all. I hope they learned from the EOV debacle.
@@LylesFigureFiles I'm hoping too but things like the tracksuit Mafia being 28.00 American say otherwise. A friend of mine found Blob up here. 85.00 Canadian. Ridiculous.
I wouldn’t be upset with that though I could see Hasbro maximizing the giant format more using one blank giant body in this set and then charging more for them separately.
Tbh…I would like the more modern ultimate giant man costume to be done (Ultimate Avengers movie). Edit: If Hasbro is sticking to this “ultimate” avenger theme this year, with ultimate cap, extremis iron man, new black widow, and Hawkeye already coming out. I would think they would go the Ultimate costume look (red/tan).
I could see that working as a Pulse exclusive eventually since they're so far behind on the Ultimate Avengers. I'd think they'd prioritize Thor and Iron Man before Ultimate Giant Man.
I can see an early bird tier being an Ultron head, I think it was Ultron-8 who possessed Giant Man? Either way Giant Man plus classic Wasp is enough to sell me but I'm not the biggest Ant Man fan.
@@LylesFigureFiles I don't know if I'm going to back it even if it's awesome. There are too many high-quality releases this year so I don't know if I have the budget.
I don't know on this one. Realistically, this could, and should, clock in at MCU Surtur size and price point (emphasise that: PRICE POINT!!!). Even if they are aiming at a sub-$200 price point, I can't see what they could add that (a). Justifies (minimum) a price point 4x higher than Surtur or (b). Is that much bigger and better than the old, but still unchallenged and excellent Toy Biz BAF - which had more articulation than any contemporary Hasbro ML at any scale (shoulder butterfly, toe articulation and individual finger joints - all standard for the time. How things change, eh?) And I can’t help thinking this will be a hard, hard sell. Should just 'big' figures (12" to 18") really be crowd-funded? Obviously, Galactus and Sentinel are not just 'big' figures, they are cosmically and mechanically super-sized, and could not be BAF'ed or Deluxed or Super Deluxed. But there are so many just 'big' figures from the comics - Atlas, Black Goliath, Giant Man (and off the top of my head, I can think of at least 8 different costumes Hank wore) Goliath, Stature - to name just the obvious Avengers options, is one big figure really the way to go? Hasbro desperately need a 'WOW!' factor here, and I don't know if swap parts (even arms, heads, legs and other customisations) will be enough. And what of the tier unlocks? Aren't they kinda limiting themselves to Golden Age Avengers? A retro Wasp with whacky pointy helmet, Avengers #4 Cap, Antman (+ants), another 'classic' Thor (already done, and done perfectly for the 80A/Alex Ross assortment) and maybe a Hawkeye? And what if they do an MCU Giant Man? Many questions, many concerns! And this is the problem with crowd-funded product: you are totally dependent on complete buy-in from the most picky and fanatical of all toy collectors, and you can't tell potential backers what they should like/want to invest in.
I think you’re grossly underestimating how iconic and important Giant Man is to hardcore Marvel fans. He’s a founding Avenger essential to the display and he’s THE premier big hero in Marvel. He’s much, much more iconic than other big characters like Surtur, Fin Fang Foom, or Giganto (all three of whom barley ever show up). Giant Man is iconic enough if a character that he deserves better than being a 12 inch deluxe figure
Really thought I'd responded to you yesterday, but it's not here soo.. Giant Man is a fixture of various versions of the Avengers so he's important. Surtur worked for a retail MCU figure, but a comic one would be better suited for a HasLab. I think 12" works for other giant characters, but Giant Man should be the tallest incarnation of those hence the HasLab scale.
@Juan Sanchez Actually (and with respect), I don't think I am! He's a C-list Avenger at best, and one of the most transient, temporary and frequently changed of all the Golden Age characters (I'm sticking to the Avengers only here, but the point is valid across all Marvel comics from 1963 to the dawn of the MCU). The touchstone characters don't go through 85,000 different iterations if they are that popular/iconic/beloved (Captain America, Steve Rogers, was wearing exactly the same costume from 1963 to the mid-1980's, as were Black Panther, Vision, Scarlet Witch and Thor). Iron Man changed suit in line with technology (and only infrequently) until the 1980s, and whilst The Wasp (Janet van Dyne) changed her costume every third issue, her powers, gimmick and codename stayed the same. Let's compare that with Hank Pym. Is he Yellowjacket, Goliath, Antman, Giant Man or plain old 1990s Hank Pym? Is Hawkeye wearing his costume and rocking his power set? Is he the nervous scientist, dealing with schizophrenia, or the supergenius ladies' man? The constant switches of codename, powers and personality NEVER stopped with Hank Pym: that doesn't indicate 'icon', it points to a character that Avengers scribes struggled to write for. Now, that doesn't mean he's a 'bad' character, and I'm not knocking you, or anyone, who likes Hank Pym/Giant Man. We all have specific characters that make other people say, 'But that one is a totally niche loser! Why would Hasbro make that?' I'm not saying that at all. But, to say a $300 HasLab is justifiable - without seeing what is being offered - repeats what some people said about the HasLab Engine of Vengeance: they liked it, so it was good. And that didn't work out so well for Hasbro or for collectors. With a project like this, you have to separate how you feel about a character from its chances of being a successful HasLab. It has to be something and someone that wide sections of the collecting community will buy into. Being 'iconic' is just not enough: that's a subjective, personal opinion which doesn't consider the wider impacts (desirability, saleability, appeal, features) of a HasLab Giant Man.
Classic Giant Man at 18” would be great . I want to continue to be sufficed with the height of Galactus and Sentinel. Wasp? Yes! Yellowjacket ? Yes! Jarvis with vacuum cleaner?lol Yes! Ultron Prime? Yes! 12” Goliath with repurpose value? YES! Not feelin the Giant Man ll look tho but package all this up at a sensible price point and sign me up!
Hello Jeffery great preview . We also need a updated version of black goliath. Also have you seen the Todd Macfarlane preview of 89 batmoblie Batman action figure and the batwing wow I can't believe it .
Giant Man?!? That would be like how Hasbro did Haslabs for Victory Saber and Deathsaurus, when these figures were originally designed for the retail market.
It won't be 150, I wish it would be, but it won't. The safest bet I got for a 24 inch Giant Man would be 300 at the worst for now, and 250 at the best for now. Just going off of how the Sentinel and Galactus cost, that my best and most realistic guess.
I can't see how they could sell $300 for Giant Man since his sculpt is nowhere near as complex as the Sentinel or Galactus. It's kinda why I'm thinking they use the HasLab to fund new blank 12-14" giant bodies.
I'm not for any hascrap has- slab project. Especially the avengers. I'm a huge avengers, especially from the 70's fan, but this idea is funny because I can't think of anything but giant man.But been there, done that with toybiz 🤔💭
There’s always room for improvement! The Toybiz Giant Man is small (he’s only like 14 inches), he has ball jointed hips, and most of his costume detailing is only painted on instead of being sculpted on The Haslab Sentinel and Haslab Galactus are ASTRONOMICALLY better than the old Toybiz BAF versions, so I don’t see why a Haslab Giant Man wouldn’t be better too
I really think early bird specials are a bad idea. Most projects I've followed have had the sales go completely flat after the early bird period is up, even ones that ultimately funded like MotUO Eternia.
The early bird WWE New Generation Arena basically got funded thanks to the Early Bird Macho Man so it can work. It's just a matter of finding one that is useful but not tied so tight to the project like the civilian mode Robbie.
I honestly hope they don't go the Haslab route with Gian-Man! I thought the Adaptoid they recently showed was a perfect future mold for Giant-Man and that's how we were going to get him. Even worst would be to get the classic Wasp as a tier of that Haslab. When we are getting classic Ant-Man very soon as a Target Exclusive they should have Wasp also out as a regular figure to pair with the classic Ant-Man. The Quinjet idea is better for a Haslab.
I don’t mind getting a Giant man I don’t have one but he needs to be appropriately priced he’s got to cost less then buying a Toybiz Giant man, we would need a Hank Pym and a giant Hank head
I NEED the HasLab figures to be as accurate as possible to go beyond retail price. I think enough of us would buy Black Goliath that he could and should get us own tooling.
Giant man/ Goliath Haslab? Hank Pym as main haslab project, Black Goliath version unlock one, Clint Barton version unlock two, Erik Josten version unlock three, and Janet Van Dyne unlock four. All for under $200. I'm just joking. A three pack of Giant Man/ Goliath would be a ridiculous size package and take up a lot of display space. I hate speculating so I'll just wait for the reveal and hope it doesn't disappoint.
Ugh, I just hope we eventually get Yellowjacket as a retail release, I don't care for Haslab projects. This is just Hasbro pushing their customers to see how much they can get away with.
Yes, good video...!! Thanks.!! For me, ... just me, OK, ... I would be happy with a Classic Giant-Man ... only 12 inches high... bigger than most figures... with a Wasp...!! Yeah, ... basic 6" versions, ....and smaller versions, too.!! That's ALL I need.!! .... and the price wouldn't eliminate me, either.!! Jarvis would be 'very great' to get, too.!! We DO need him...and this would be a great way to work him in.!! I really have always wanted a Rick Jones... but he always seems to be out of the question, lately...!! Captain America could use a partner like Rick...!! Rick was instrumental in bringing The Avengers together...!! Why we don't have him as an action figure is a mystery to me.!!
Good call about Rick Jones. I wonder if Hasbro would reconsider revisiting Captain Marvel with more of a 70s/Avengers head sculpt. They could pair him with a Rick for a two-pack.
this wont happen but what if they make it mcu giant man just to mess with people hopefully its not $300 or more but honestly i dont think giant man needs to be as towering as a sentinel or galactus
Usually love your videos but I've gotta speak up here. An 18 inch figure will not cost that much less than a 24 inch figure. I also think there is no way this will be $150! Not from GREEDBRO!
Do you at least think you might date this video for awhile? Sorry, I'm badly in need of a nap. I think $250 needs to be around the max for this HasLab where they can get an easy win and use the extra profit for next year's HasLab.
NOOOO, PLEASE DON'T!!!!! A Giant Man Haslab project would be a waste of time, plastic, thought and money😠. We don't need a bigger Giant Man. The ToyBiz one is just fine!!!!!
$150 Giant Man...is way too much for me.!! Giant Man does not have to be huge...!! Just larger than the 6" figures... 12" ... is 'giant' enough for me.!!! Don't make it so expensive...!! ... that you price me out of the figure.!! That second take on Giant-Man is probably what ended his series...!! That was not a good look for him.!! We don't NEED HIM...!! The original ...The Wasp ... would be great.!! A 12" Giant-Man, ... and an Original ...The Wasp ... small and 6"-scale would be great.!!
I'm so scared for a Giant Man. i like the Marvel universe scale for large characters. I don't like the haslab sentinal scale. Its literally to big. I like that the mcu giant baf size.
Dude, that’s WAY too small for Giant Man. The guy regularly grows to the size of skyscrapers. Giant Man is actually traditionally quite a bit larger than a Sentinel
@@Hot_SpicyGrill But it’s tiny! And less articulated! And has a less detailed sculpt! Sentinels are supposed to be big! It’s objectively worse in pretty much every metric lol
@@LylesFigureFiles Articulation is about design. that's not because of scale. Most haslab sentinel shelfs I think look bad. because he's so big. He struggles to fight X-Men of. Because he's so big. wolverine just needs to fart to be lost in his arm pit.
If Giant man is the new haslab thing I want them to execute this right because I would love to have like a giant giant man but I don't want them to mess up like what they did with the hell charger that's why I want them to execute this right and don't mess up. again I would love to have a big giant named figure in my collection of figures
And tears I don't know what to do I would like to have a new yellow jacket and I also would like to have what you said about Goliath but instead it's yellow jacket or a wasp giant figure black and yellow suit is the Goliath figure I don't know but for other tears I don't know if they do the giant man with a black and red suit I could think they could do a head scope of that new giant man forgot the new giant man's name is I know he has a weird beard got stuck in the the golden great bridge but yes so far I don't know or about tears for giant man just have to wait and see and I hope so they execute this well and don't mess up cuz I really want a giant giant man figure in election
Yep it’s absolutely key that whatever HasLab they do, Hasbro can’t afford for it not to work and fund this time out. With the proper tiers the sky is the limit for it though.
Neca used to make 18 inch action figures at $100 now they are $125 when Marvel legends where making the 12 in figures they were $50 but the quality was garbage. Even if Hasbro does an 18 inch figure they'll charge $200. Neca was dumb their 1/4 scale line they should have made an Ant-Man not daredevil and deadpool smh
I wish NECA made those larger figures of characters I wanted. They seemed pretty decent from what I remember. Those more "recent" ML 12" figures really had bad articulation.
@@LylesFigureFiles In terms of a new Haslab? Gee, I really don't know. I have a Sentinel since it was down my alley as an X-Men thing but with my complete MotU Classics collection including A Greyskull and a Snake Mountain AND an incoming Thundertank space is becoming an issue.
If this is the HasLab I’m no in. Marvel legends fans are some of the most hateful toxic fans in toy collecting. The hell charger was eye opening to see how bad they really are. So I can’t support the HasLab or marvel legends the way I once did. Not because I don’t love marvel legends or Hasbro but the association with marvel legends fans have completely turned me off.
What??? The hell charger was so off base and not what any person who buys legends wanted. It’s really Fine if people don’t want something. Sure there couple people that are assholes. But you seem way more of a toxic person
The _"most hateful toxic"_ behavior you allege was purely confined to the interwebs. The concerning behavior is when it spills into "the real world," like when toy collectors were harassing store employees to get hard to find figures and/or stealing items and running over employees trying to stop them. If you spend more time off the internet & instead interact more with people in person, you won't be bothered with as much of the keyboard warrior-ing that might happen on message boards/sites/pages/etc. that you must've frequented to come to such conclusions.
At this point I feel that HasLab needs to pick an affordable price point and give fans as much as they can for their money. If they try for a $400 price point a Giant Man will not get funded regardless of tiers.
Agreed, while Galactus was definitely a must have for some, others thought 400 was pushing it.
@@scottroxford5715 I passed on Galactus for that reason. $300 is pretty much my limit.
Agreed
I agree! I wouldn’t back a character that I know only by name and prolly 60% of Marvel fans have no clue who it is lol respect, but much better characters out there by far!
@@bnbtoys 60 percent? That’s pushing it lol. Ant Man/Giant Man has become a pretty mainstream comic character
I want a Legends Hulk (blue jean variant), Commander Rogers, Yellow Jacket, & Heroic Age Thor.
I’d go for a commander rogers solo fig then a two pack of Steve cap with that shield that can separate and Sam cap with his wings and his new shield he has in the books and a lil falcon to perch on his forearm. Pair these with the new Vulcan Bucky cap, it’ll look siiiiiiiiiick
I'd be down for a Commander Rogers and a more in scale HA Thor as well!
IF... it was Giant Man, and they included a Goliath - Hawkeye - that would get me to join in AND a Thunderbolts Atlas/Goliath!
I'd love to see a green outfit Quicksilver packed with a Goliath Hawkeye.
Great video!
If the HasLab is Giant-Man, it really needs to be Giant-Man AND Wasp. Janet is nowhere to be seen so far during this anniversary year - and it's her 60th anniversary as well. If Jan is simply just a tier or an early bird figure, that would be really insensitive on Hasbro's part to make the only female founder a throwaway offering. Jan deserves the spotlight, just like the guys.
Also, this could give Hasbro two new bodies paid for by us - the giant size male and a shorter adult female buck, since Jan is supposed to be shorter than the usual Marvel female.
Oh, I've gotta assume they're putting Wasp in there right with Hank. Maybe not even as a tier. And they definitely need a shorter female buck for Wasp!
Totally agree with most of what you're saying except the Jarvis. I think it would be more of a layup for Hasbro to just throw in a tier one Hank Pym. We had the lab coat Mister Fantastic and we are getting the Bruce Banner so they will not miss the opportunity to reuse those for Hank.
I think a Hank could sell on his own. And I'm really hoping we get red jumpsuit Hank with a removable lab coat when they go that route with him.
Things I expect Hasbro to do here:
1. Price the item at around $350 to $400, a price point they know we have been willing to pay for giant sized figures before . No way they walk the price back at this point.$350 to $400 is a lock .
2. Expect one of the tiers to be a gold repaint of the MK 1 Iron Man. For as much drawing power as Hank and Janet have , I believe Hasbro will want to try and make this appeal to as many fans as possible , similar to how they tried to shoehorn Maddie into the Hell Charger. Tony naturally fits with this classic Avenger theme and I think we all have known a gold repaint is inevitable since the MK 1 was shown .
3. There will be no Early Bird goal. For as many missteps as the Hell Charger campaign had, none was more damning than taking away the civilian Robbie figure because the project didn't fund in the first week. Given the high price point this project will carry , there is no chance Hasbro will want to repeat the perception of decreased value again.
4. It will be close, but it will fund. The higher price point is just the way things are now. Everyone will complain every day about the price during the campaign but it won't have the problems gaining momentum that the HC did.
5. Either a classic Janet or civilian Hank Pym will be included in the package from the get go.
Final tier guesses: Gold Iron Man MK 1, Yellow jacket, 12 inch Goliath , Zombie Giant Man Head
I can just hear the comments of folks complaining Zombie Giant Man isn't accurate since his head would be the only zombified portion.
Hasbro could really wish some negative goodwill putting gold Iron Man in that HasLab and would put themselves in a corner if it didn't fund so we could "never" get gold Mark II.
That buttery sound, glad you got it working again. Great video!
Thank you! 😊 I’m still trying to figure out how the mic blew out so bad
Excellent video LMF. How could anyone debate this list? With Dwight's subtle IG hint, who else could he be referring to? I am praying that the popularity of the Avengers propels the Haslab program from the damages caused by the EoV campaign to our community. I would not be disappointed if a Hank Pym related Haslab is proposed. This issue that concerns me dearly is the funding price Hasbro will ask. I fear the price tag ticket shock of the EoV was just the beginning. I will be disappointed if the Giant-Man Haslab is $350.
Thanks Jay. They can't mess this up with a silly price point. The sweet spot for a non-complex mold -- even larger size -- shouldn't be more than $250 even if you're accounting for all the tiers.
@@LylesFigureFiles The issue I have is that Hasbro has messed up pricing, as I never thought a 1/12 scale car would be $350 either.
Great content as always brother. I've needed a True Giant Man in my collection, this is awesome. 👍🏾👍🏾
Really appreciate that Lasean! I can't wait to see how this looks!
I hope we get this, I'm currently in process of making a four foot giant man, so this haslab would be awesome together!
That sounds cool! Hopefully you'll take pics when you're done.
@@LylesFigureFilesthank you I sure will!
Imagine a whole line of 24" figures, but like most, the price is what i want to see no matter the tiers.
That would be nice. Hopefully the price won't be too wild.
You have the right balance between fanboy and reality.
Thank you. It’s a tricky balance sometimes 😂
so torn on If i'll back this if we get a haslab giant man.
I hope so. I'm curious what this Mattel WWE one will be.
Here’s what I’m envisioning: A 24 inch (that’s 10 inches taller than the Toybiz BAF) CLASSIC Giant Man with no lights or electronics for $300-$350
Giant Man doesn’t need lights or electronics, so that’s an easy way to keep the price down. And while I personally would like Giant Man as big as possible, I understand that a slightly smaller figure at a more reasonable price would make it easier for people to pull the trigger
And like you pointed out, it absolutely has to be his classic design. The people who are willing to pay hundreds of dollars for Haslab items are the same people who are hardcore Marvel fans, and hardcore fans will always gravitate towards iconic and classic looks
Basically, there’s 2 things I want out of this: I want it to be noticeably bigger than the Toybiz BAF, and I want all of the costume details of Giant Man’s classic costume to be sculpted on (the gloves, boots, chest straps, mask details, etc.). If it’s just a big blank body with minimal sculpting, it’s going to look terrible
With sculpted nipples?
You've got it Juan. The way too much disposable income crowd skews more classic with the outfits and he will definitely need to have those costume elements sculpted.
If they go with the modern (red & Black) uniform the tiers could include both a Lang & Malhotra head - so people might buy three to get all three versions of the modern Giant Man and you know Hasbro loves it when we army build. I like your idea too, because I really want a Barton Goliath.
I'm curious. Do you think Malhotra has a big (pun not intended) fanbase enough to sell in a HasLab? I really want to get that Barton Goliath eventually.
Some interesting ideas Lyle. Whichever version of Giant Man/Goliath they go with, I think an unmasked head option with the cowl round his neck would be cool.
At first I was against a first appearance Wasp being included, but as she has so many costumes, I don't really mind.
The Ultron MK 1 is a cool idea.
Jarvis maybe, although a 2 pack with a civilian Steve Rogers or Tony Stark might be good.
Someone else mentioned a normal sized Hank in his costume with a lab coat. I'd like that.
I need to fire my branding team for everyone thinking my first name is Lyle.
I dug that cowl down look when George Perez did it so I'd definitely be down for that as an option. We got the lab coat version with the MU line so it'd be nice to see that in this scale!
Hey JL, a nice video and tier ideas! A HasLab Giant man would be cool. The Toybiz Giant man looks fine, but the articulation (legs) is pretty bad. I would be good with a new 12-16 inch classic or modern Giant man with the Wasp to keep the price reasonable. As for tiers, a new Yellow Jacket is needed, and an 8-10" Clint Barton Goliath would be a home run for me!
Thanks David! My TB GM is propped against the back of my Avengers display wall for that exact reason. The legs can be real suspect at times. ;-)
The Toybiz giant man is 16" tall, I would lean towards 24" for the Haslab for more size separation. It would be surprising if this Haslab was less than $350. I want the figure so badly, Hasbro is unlikely to price me out. I like your tiers, Goliath would be the most important to me, at 12-14". Based on the Super Adaptoid, I am assuming 12".
Thanks. I don't think Goliath, Black Goliath, Hawkeye Goliath, etc. need to be in the 18" range to look impressively taller based on that Super Adaptoid.
Love the video, as always. You and I are on the same page regarding Giant Man's height. I do not want Hasbro making him three feet tall just because they can. He can still tower over the Avengers and be dwarfed by Galactus; that preserves the majesty of the Devourer of Worlds (and the Sentinel too). So yeah, somewhere in that 18-24 inches ballpark is good with me, and as you stated, which I totally agree with, his costume isn't complicated so the sculpt and production should be comparatively easy.
As a fan, I really, really want a classic Wasp and Yellowjacket, but I can see fans complaining if they were only available as HasLab tiers when they could be sold at Target for the normal price. (Speaking of which, I'm not so sure that won't happen. Walmart and Target both have collector cons coming up and we don't know what the Marvel Legends product will be... at least I don't think we do... but I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get a classic solo release Wasp just like we got Ant-Man.)
That said, I like the other ideas. I like the idea of getting Jarvis. I also like the Goliath tier, as he would also be a simple build; just scale up the standard buck to 12-13 inches as you said. Great idea!
What I would love them to do, however, is spend some of that extra $$$ on tooling articulated miniature Ant-Man and Wasp figures. In 1984, Mattel made Wheeled Warrior toys based on the cartoon Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors. The human driver figures were small, only about an inch, I think (???) but they could move their arms and legs. And that was nearly 40 years ago!!! Tell me Hasbro, with the HasLab production budget and skills, couldn't make an articulated Pym Posse!
Thanks so much Ryan!
We both know that some collectors are gonna complain regardless even if it was Hawkeye in that gaudy archer suit.
The beauty of The Wasp is they could always crank out multiple versions of her and it'd work. She's certainly got enough costumes!
I'd love to see a poseable mini-Ant-Man and Wasp, but with Howard the Duck that has me worried they wouldn't be able to figure it out ;-)
Dope shirt! Where did you find it? Tell me the secret! 🤣
You hit all the right points as far as Giant Man, if it happens. As cool as a Giant Man HasLab would be, the scale and value has to be there.
A figure 3-4x the size of a standard ML figure would be fine with me but the extras have to be relevant and necessary to Avengers lore. Wrap it all up for under $180 and I'll cancel some other preorders to clear up my budget for it. We will soon see.
That one I got from FYE/Hot Topic during the peak of Infinity War hype. Haven't seen it since!
www.hottopic.com/product/marvel-avengers-infinity-war-team-cap-t-shirt-hot-topic-exclusive/11409447.html
It's out of stock, but you never know...
I hope this isn't ridiculously expensive!
Love these ideas bro! Definitely want Jan in different sizes and costumes plus YJ!
Thank you Casey! So much variety for one character is what could make this HasLab so much fun.
Great choices but i really don't see it as a haslab i don't think it would get funded keep the content coming great video
Thanks James! I hope you're wrong in this case ;-)
Agreed that it is probably Giant Man. Definitely a Classic Avengers 4 cover Wasp (would they give us other Kirby inspired Avengers as unlocks?). From there, a series of 12 inch big men could be interesting (Hawkeye Goliath, Bill Foster). Wouldn't mind a Giant Man zombie head in a callback to the 2005-2009 comic.
I wouldn't be mad at the other big men as tiers!
I'm trying to remember, did Zombie Giant Man have rips and exposed skin in his costume?
The Black and Blue costume add-ons is a good idea. They need to go back to their 1970s designs and make a soft goods costume. The black part of the costume could be all one stretchy cloth piece that is put on via the legs and pulled up over the arms. It would be attached in the back with a thin strip of velcro (it was metal snaps in the 70s). A softer blue plastic chest piece pulled down over the head or neck if the head is popped off. The helmet would be a slightly firmer blue plastic or a head swap. The white belt could be a wrap around with a button buckle in the front. I think it should be a tier unlock, not a early-bird special.
That's a pretty creative way to execute it, Dani!
@@LylesFigureFiles I like the vintage Bullet Man, which is where the inspiration of the idea comes from. Well... part of the inspiration anyway.
my take is that maybe hasbro should do multiple 12-15 inch figures? maybe a 12-inch giant man, a 12-inch hank pym goliath, then either a 12-inch black goliath or clint barton goliath. then the tiers would be yellowjacket, wasp, and a either a 6-inch black goliath or clint goliath (whichever they pick as the 12 incher, the other would be a 6-incher)
I think they're really missing out on that approach since there's so many giant figures in Marvel and the 6" versions would make sense as well.
I genuinely don't think Giant Man should be a HasLab, but it looks like it's gonna be that. Hopefully he isn't more than $200 and even that is pushing it IMO. For Tiers I really don't think Classic Wasp and Yellowjacket should be tiers as those are characters and costumes that a lot of people want but locking it behind a $200+ Haslab is a bad idea. Jarvis and Mk1 Ultron is perfect though. I really like the idea of a new blank body for 12 inch scale figures is great and I think a 12 figure as a stretch goals would make paying $200 an easy justification. Personally I'd use Wasp but not that classic firat costume, I think it would be better to use pretty much any other costume, something super fans would want like I think she had a blue outfit that was pretty much the classic costume but blue and with no pointy cowl, or maybe we just get like a normal Janet Van Dyne figure along with a normal Lab Coat Hank Pym? And while I know it's not everyone's favorite I think the Hank Pym Wasp would be a decent tier pick, because I don't think that outfit is popular enough to really deserve a normal spot, but is niche enough to be a decent stretch goal.
Edit: Oh and they NEED to show ALL the stretch goals from the get go. No more of this revealing them as they are unlocked/they get desperate for backers.
$200 for a Giant Man is more than pushing it, I'd argue $150 is the MAX value of the base product. Hear me out: What you're likely going to get is an oversized Bucky Cap or Vulcan mold, with little paint and details. Articulation will likely not be emphasized, which I can understand is not as important for the bigger characters... Basically, this will be the simplest and cheapest haslab to create, so $$$ is definitely going to be what justifies the purchase for most.
@@ReeceHoward06 $150 would be a perfect price for an 18-20 inch Giant-Man IMO, no more than $100 for a 12 inch. If all the Stretch goals are just normal 6 inch figures $200 is pushing it unless the figures are all great. If they made a Stretch Goal a 12 figure $200 is a good deal for everything you get. This is why revealing ALL the stretch goals from the get go is so important. If we know everything we are going to get at the max amount of backers it will make more people at least back it to try and reach the goal. The Hell Charger wasn't great but I think knowing everything we could have got from the get go might have helped it, but honestly I don't think it was going to happen regardless.
Given the articulation of the last 2 Haslabs I don't think Giant Man would suffer much as he doesn't have large shoulder pads or waist armor pieces to limit anything, and there isn't a lot of sculpt detail needed for Giant Man, but doesn't mean they couldn't add some stitching sculpt detail in places. Personally I think Giant Man as a Haslab is really dumb and unnecessary, mostly because I just don't see anyone really genuinely wanting a 24-30 inch Giant Man. I think people are so starved for a good giant sized Giant Man that they will buy into an overpriced Haslab just to get what might be the only way they think they can get it. Honestly even 18-20 inch just seems too big. I'm a hardliner for them bringing back the 12 inch Legends, but using it as a series to make just larger giant sized characters like Giant Man, Goliath, Atlas etc.
@@The_Rage_Kage Im with you there. If they push it as a package deal, it could justify $200. Otherwise, I see it failing or stalling outside of hardcore collectors because the lack of polish and effort for the absurd prices is currently killing the Legends line.
The price is gonna be the biggest element here. Jan has plenty of outfits that would work for a tier. I'm not wedded to the classic one for the HasLab.
Great ideas! I really think it's going to be Giant-Man. The quinjet would just be too big and I think they're scared of getting burned over a vehicle again.
I've been using that "Giagantic Battlers" Goliath (red and blue) as my default Hank Pym for a while now. It's okay, but the articulation really isn't there so I'd love a new Giant-Man or Goliath to take his place and a first appearance Wasp and a Yellowjacket would just be icing on the cake.
I have the blue and yellow Gigantic Battlers Goliath and yeah I really want that with better articulation!
They shouldn’t do an early bird because if it doesn’t fund in time, it backfires in terms of support. Also, announce all the tier items and unlock goals on day one. They tried to keep the tier unlocks as a mystery so they can “pivot”, but that also backfired on them.
Making the tiers a mystery is not a good idea. That only works if the project is close and needs a bump to drive backers. The early birds have worked out successfully for some projects, but one that's so contingent on getting funded like Robbie, will definitely kill interest in the overall project.
Need that zombie Giant man head fr!
Ha! That’s the fifth tier,
Great video and tier list. I’d love to have Jarvis and the first appearance Ultron!
Thanks Jeremy! I think they'd make for fun inclusions in a HasLab style setup!
@@LylesFigureFiles you’re welcome! Time will tell, hopefully it’s something worthy of our hard earned money.
Jarvis would be Perfect for the early bird special. Not too obscure and bland that no one would care, but not too hype and needed that if we didn't get him it would be a loss or cripple the project.
I don't know. I'd do some quality griping if I didn't get Jarvis ;-)
Giant Man needs to be as big as the Sentinel because I feel he can grow that big and size up to a giant robot. Also it needs to be at the same price. Or less if it’s cheaper. The reason why the Hell Charger failed is because Hasbro included the price of the Tier onto the figure making the set not worth the price anymore. Tier should be a plus. No matter if we unlock 1 Tier, no tier or all tier, the price will remain a price worth the figure on its own.
The Sentinel was $350 but that was likely due to all the gears and mechanical parts/light-up functions. That won't be needed for Hank so hoping he's $100 cheaper.
I agree with you 100 percent!!
Thanks PJ! Hoping I laid it out in a way that made sense :)
You said it. I'm 💯% with ya. Can't do it any better. 👏👏👏👏❤️❤️
Thanks! I hope Hasbro is thinking along these lines too :-)
It may be cool and a lot of ppl want it, but I have absolutely no tie in with the character or figure. I’d rather see them do one that will sell out, with Fing Fang Foom! Would’ve been a much better choice, for all collectors! Giant Man is very niche for collectors! The buy it all guys will grab I instantly, but collections like me, won’t bite if we don’t see figures and characters we know and can relate with. Cool, just wouldn’t be my choice! Next, they’ll be dropping BAF figures, as the Spider-Man wave is proof of that! Appreciate your videos! :)
Dude, Fin Fang Foom is WAY more niche than Giant Man lol. Like, astronomically so. The guy has only popped up here and there over the last 60 years. Giant Man on the other hand is a founding Avenger and is THE premier “big” hero in Marvel. It’s fine if you subjectively think he’s a boring design, but he’s WAY more notable than Fin Fan Foom is
Like Juan said, I think FFF would be a harder sell and probably easier for collectors to avoid getting unless he had some crucial tier options. I'm very much not a fan of dropping BAFs.
Giant Man should be cheaper than the Sentinel, he is going to have much less detailing. I don't see how alternate heads would make sense. It doesn't need to light up. Its would basically be an upscaled Vulcan or RYV buck. I would pay around $200-$250 for a Classic Giant-man the size of the Haslab Sentinel with some 6" bonus figures thrown in.
I think the biggest problem with a Giant-Man figure is figuring out which costume to use. It changed a lot and everyone has their favorite costume they want to see, so Hasbro is only going to be able to please a small number of people. Unless he has alternate clothes like a Barbie doll or 12" GI Joe. A lot of the figures they come out with are only accurate to a handful of comic panels and that's not as big a deal for $20 figures, but would I pay Haslab prices for a figure like that? I'm not so sure.
I don't see this being a runaway hit like the Sentinel and Galactus.
His costume changes are the sticky point. I think the best way to work around it is to use the tier for a blank body like Goliath where Hasbro could roll out other costume variations down the road.
I keep saying I'm out and not collecting marvel legends anymore, but this vid and announcement has me exciting at the idea of buying a ML Giantman...
I think they should be in position to finally beat out that great Toy Biz figure.
The only gripe that I had with the Engine of Vengeance was the price. If it was a hundred dollars less than what they were wanting originally, then I would've backed it without feeling like I was getting cheated out of a hundred dollars. As for Giant Man, I always felt that Hasbro could've released him as a deluxe figure or in a 12-Inch scale like their icon figures.
Agreed, that extra $100 pushed me over the edge for the EOV as well.
I'm thinking HasLab for Giant Man more so for the potential of working in other giant figures as tiers.
To add into your Jarvis/Ultron 2 pack suggestion, how about making a Crimson Cowl clothe cape. I wouldn't mind a Hank Pym WCA jumpsuit as the early bird. I do like the rest of the ideas about the Goliaths. I would still like to pick up a Valkyrie (Defenders) with Aragorn, a 70's Son of Satan or a Devil-Slayer with his sword and ax.
Yessss! Crimson Cowl look would be awesome. Red jumpsuit Hank is definitely on my wishlist too.
Maybe Valkyrie and SOS could work as Pulse deluxe sets?
As a lifelong Avengers and Hank Pym fan, getting my backing on this Haslab should be a layup. There’s only one problem. I love my Toy Biz Giant Man BAF, and space is becoming an issue. So here’s what I need.
I need this to come in at $300 or less. I’m not going above that for a character/costume that I already have. I agree that there’s no need to add a lot of bells and whistles to this figure. Keep it simple, and keep the cost down.
Let’s not do an Early Bird. That just irritates fans. I love the idea of a classic Wasp and Yellowjacket as tiers , but I think if you really want to get things cooking, make the other tier the West Coast Avengers version of Hank. Let the final tier be the parts to build the alternate costume. I think it’s important that all the tiers be Hank and Jan centric.
Do that, or something very similar, and I think you’ve got a home run.
So agree that we need this one under $300. Going higher is just going to kill the project before it gets underway.
If we do get a Giant Man, I will definitely save up and buy him
I hope that's the case for both of us!
Do you have the TB Giant Man. I do it's been sitting in a box for awhile. Hasbro won't be able to help themselves, & will still try an pitch at $350.
Oh yeah. I still have a lot of my Toy Biz Marvel Legends. Giant Man is one of the few still in the display though.
I agree with you that if ever that the new haslab is Giantman it should not be in the same size of Sentinel, i'm good with 17-20inches giantman perhaps lower the price as well just like what the Transformer haslab did with Victory Sabre.
And I don't think it was a surprise that the Transformers HasLabs have sold so well.
A big giant man and a few 12 inch giant man mythos related characters as tiers
That could definitely work!
Idk. I still have my toybiz Giant Man and he's in great shape .
Mine too, but those ball joint hips make posing him trickier than I’d like.
Totally on obard with everything you said! Sign me up!
Thanks Jim! Now we just need Hasbro to deliver on their end with an affordable price point.
I've been pretty vocal online, speaking against the idea of a Giant Man Haslab (see my other comments on LMF on this topic). Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but I wouldn't trust Hasbro to be able to deliver on it.
That said, if they actually managed to present the project in a way that you laid it out then I would back it. I don't expect they'll be to, but we'll see.
Here's where I think they'll go wrong. I get the vibe from Marvel that they set the price first, then work from there. So I fully expect this to be $400, and then they'll try to scale him up or pack in a bunch of useless fluff to justify the price.
Second, I don't see them ever giving us a 12" figure as a pack in. Adaptoid is rumored to be $80, and he's even a retool. There's no way they'll pack something like that.
I think he's going to be too big, too expensive, with some mediocre tiers that are cheap for them to produce, and that's why I don't have the faith that they will do it right. That's why I say don't do it, and just give us an 18" retail Gaint Man.
But we'll see.
Yeah, the price is absolutely gonna be key. They can't go overboard and try to cash out on a HasLab in this financial climate. I really hope they try for a lower HasLab as this would be an ideal time for a $250 one that would sell at a lower price point. Going close to $400 would be death.
We need a alternate zombie giant man head
He'd need some other zombie parts to make that worthwhile.
Zombie hand an Zombie wasp
I am really hoping the next Marvel Haslab is a Giant Man AND Black Goliath. Now that I would gladly spend $350 on if it came with some outstanding tiers!
That would be awesome!
Man i wanted a fing fang foom sooooo bad
I’d like to get him too just after Giant Man!
Great video Jeffrey. I like your ideas but I'm too sour at Hasbro to agree. Giant Man will be at least 400.00 and it will be 3,000 between the tiers. Engine of Vengeance taught them nothing.
My main caveat to all of that is the price. If they go excessive with the price it's just not gonna work at all. I hope they learned from the EOV debacle.
@@LylesFigureFiles I'm hoping too but things like the tracksuit Mafia being 28.00 American say otherwise. A friend of mine found Blob up here. 85.00 Canadian. Ridiculous.
Hello Jeffery great preview have you seen Todd Macfarlane preview of 89 batmoblie Batman and the batwing wow I can't believe it .
Thanks Austin. Here's the vid on the Batmobile: ua-cam.com/video/io_oWFU7ybA/v-deo.html
Thank you bro.
Heck yeah to all that!
Appreciate it Brett!
A big giant man and a few 12 inch giant man method related characters as tiers
I wouldn’t be upset with that though I could see Hasbro maximizing the giant format more using one blank giant body in this set and then charging more for them separately.
Tbh…I would like the more modern ultimate giant man costume to be done (Ultimate Avengers movie).
Edit: If Hasbro is sticking to this “ultimate” avenger theme this year, with ultimate cap, extremis iron man, new black widow, and Hawkeye already coming out. I would think they would go the Ultimate costume look (red/tan).
I could see that working as a Pulse exclusive eventually since they're so far behind on the Ultimate Avengers. I'd think they'd prioritize Thor and Iron Man before Ultimate Giant Man.
I can see an early bird tier being an Ultron head, I think it was Ultron-8 who possessed Giant Man? Either way Giant Man plus classic Wasp is enough to sell me but I'm not the biggest Ant Man fan.
I saw that Ultron, I think it was Ultron 7. 🙂
Hasbro might go tier 1 Ant-Man, tier 2 Ant-Man 2, tier 3 mini Ant Man, tier 4 mini Ant-Man 2, tier 5 mini wasp. Saving money on all that plastic...
Don’t give ‘em any ideas! We need this one done right with no issues.
@@LylesFigureFiles I don't know if I'm going to back it even if it's awesome. There are too many high-quality releases this year so I don't know if I have the budget.
I don't know on this one. Realistically, this could, and should, clock in at MCU Surtur size and price point (emphasise that: PRICE POINT!!!). Even if they are aiming at a sub-$200 price point, I can't see what they could add that (a). Justifies (minimum) a price point 4x higher than Surtur or (b). Is that much bigger and better than the old, but still unchallenged and excellent Toy Biz BAF - which had more articulation than any contemporary Hasbro ML at any scale (shoulder butterfly, toe articulation and individual finger joints - all standard for the time. How things change, eh?)
And I can’t help thinking this will be a hard, hard sell. Should just 'big' figures (12" to 18") really be crowd-funded? Obviously, Galactus and Sentinel are not just 'big' figures, they are cosmically and mechanically super-sized, and could not be BAF'ed or Deluxed or Super Deluxed. But there are so many just 'big' figures from the comics - Atlas, Black Goliath, Giant Man (and off the top of my head, I can think of at least 8 different costumes Hank wore) Goliath, Stature - to name just the obvious Avengers options, is one big figure really the way to go? Hasbro desperately need a 'WOW!' factor here, and I don't know if swap parts (even arms, heads, legs and other customisations) will be enough. And what of the tier unlocks? Aren't they kinda limiting themselves to Golden Age Avengers? A retro Wasp with whacky pointy helmet, Avengers #4 Cap, Antman (+ants), another 'classic' Thor (already done, and done perfectly for the 80A/Alex Ross assortment) and maybe a Hawkeye?
And what if they do an MCU Giant Man?
Many questions, many concerns! And this is the problem with crowd-funded product: you are totally dependent on complete buy-in from the most picky and fanatical of all toy collectors, and you can't tell potential backers what they should like/want to invest in.
I think you’re grossly underestimating how iconic and important Giant Man is to hardcore Marvel fans. He’s a founding Avenger essential to the display and he’s THE premier big hero in Marvel. He’s much, much more iconic than other big characters like Surtur, Fin Fang Foom, or Giganto (all three of whom barley ever show up). Giant Man is iconic enough if a character that he deserves better than being a 12 inch deluxe figure
Really thought I'd responded to you yesterday, but it's not here soo..
Giant Man is a fixture of various versions of the Avengers so he's important. Surtur worked for a retail MCU figure, but a comic one would be better suited for a HasLab.
I think 12" works for other giant characters, but Giant Man should be the tallest incarnation of those hence the HasLab scale.
@Juan Sanchez Actually (and with respect), I don't think I am! He's a C-list Avenger at best, and one of the most transient, temporary and frequently changed of all the Golden Age characters (I'm sticking to the Avengers only here, but the point is valid across all Marvel comics from 1963 to the dawn of the MCU).
The touchstone characters don't go through 85,000 different iterations if they are that popular/iconic/beloved (Captain America, Steve Rogers, was wearing exactly the same costume from 1963 to the mid-1980's, as were Black Panther, Vision, Scarlet Witch and Thor). Iron Man changed suit in line with technology (and only infrequently) until the 1980s, and whilst The Wasp (Janet van Dyne) changed her costume every third issue, her powers, gimmick and codename stayed the same.
Let's compare that with Hank Pym. Is he Yellowjacket, Goliath, Antman, Giant Man or plain old 1990s Hank Pym? Is Hawkeye wearing his costume and rocking his power set? Is he the nervous scientist, dealing with schizophrenia, or the supergenius ladies' man? The constant switches of codename, powers and personality NEVER stopped with Hank Pym: that doesn't indicate 'icon', it points to a character that Avengers scribes struggled to write for.
Now, that doesn't mean he's a 'bad' character, and I'm not knocking you, or anyone, who likes Hank Pym/Giant Man. We all have specific characters that make other people say, 'But that one is a totally niche loser! Why would Hasbro make that?' I'm not saying that at all. But, to say a $300 HasLab is justifiable - without seeing what is being offered - repeats what some people said about the HasLab Engine of Vengeance: they liked it, so it was good. And that didn't work out so well for Hasbro or for collectors.
With a project like this, you have to separate how you feel about a character from its chances of being a successful HasLab. It has to be something and someone that wide sections of the collecting community will buy into. Being 'iconic' is just not enough: that's a subjective, personal opinion which doesn't consider the wider impacts (desirability, saleability, appeal, features) of a HasLab Giant Man.
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Appreciate it ATT!
Aye where’d you get that shirt from?
This one I got from FYE when Infinity War came out. Definitely one of my favorite Avengers MCU shirts.
Classic Giant Man at 18” would be great . I want to continue to be sufficed with the height of Galactus and Sentinel. Wasp? Yes! Yellowjacket ? Yes! Jarvis with vacuum cleaner?lol Yes! Ultron Prime? Yes! 12” Goliath with repurpose value? YES! Not feelin the Giant Man ll look tho but package all this up at a sensible price point and sign me up!
I really hope they use the HasLab to crank out a blank giant body to start knocking out the other Hank aliases.
Hello Jeffery great preview . We also need a updated version of black goliath. Also have you seen the Todd Macfarlane preview of 89 batmoblie Batman action figure and the batwing wow I can't believe it .
I definitely want a better Black Goliath!
Like wise. But a modern day bill foster.
What also hurt the haslab was that it got out that a bratiz car was only like 35 and is the same car.
And folks comparing that RC Batmobile as well.
@@LylesFigureFiles I knew that haslab was a bust. because two year a ago. His lego set went on discount.
If the lego set cant sell your fucked.
If they did this figure correctly, they could make it to where he could be giant man, yellow jacket, or Goliath
I'm really wouldn't be upset if one of the tiers were Yellowjacket!
Giant Man?!? That would be like how Hasbro did Haslabs for Victory Saber and Deathsaurus, when these figures were originally designed for the retail market.
They both funded so that's a good sign.
i say skip the ab crunch and do a ball waist. preserve that sculpt
Hey that could work!
It won't be 150, I wish it would be, but it won't. The safest bet I got for a 24 inch Giant Man would be 300 at the worst for now, and 250 at the best for now. Just going off of how the Sentinel and Galactus cost, that my best and most realistic guess.
I can't see how they could sell $300 for Giant Man since his sculpt is nowhere near as complex as the Sentinel or Galactus. It's kinda why I'm thinking they use the HasLab to fund new blank 12-14" giant bodies.
If Giant-Man is $150 ... I may have to pass...as bad as I need him.!!
I don't really need a figure that is that expensive... nor higher than 12" ...
Not interested in the Giant Man for Haslab
They need to do something totally dope, that everyone will love
What would you be interested in that everyone would love?
I'm not for any hascrap has- slab project. Especially the avengers. I'm a huge avengers, especially from the 70's fan, but this idea is funny because I can't think of anything but giant man.But been there, done that with toybiz 🤔💭
There’s always room for improvement! The Toybiz Giant Man is small (he’s only like 14 inches), he has ball jointed hips, and most of his costume detailing is only painted on instead of being sculpted on
The Haslab Sentinel and Haslab Galactus are ASTRONOMICALLY better than the old Toybiz BAF versions, so I don’t see why a Haslab Giant Man wouldn’t be better too
Well Goliath definitely could be improved upon. But I feel like it’s either one of them.
I really think early bird specials are a bad idea. Most projects I've followed have had the sales go completely flat after the early bird period is up, even ones that ultimately funded like MotUO Eternia.
The early bird WWE New Generation Arena basically got funded thanks to the Early Bird Macho Man so it can work. It's just a matter of finding one that is useful but not tied so tight to the project like the civilian mode Robbie.
I honestly hope they don't go the Haslab route with Gian-Man! I thought the Adaptoid they recently showed was a perfect future mold for Giant-Man and that's how we were going to get him. Even worst would be to get the classic Wasp as a tier of that Haslab. When we are getting classic Ant-Man very soon as a Target Exclusive they should have Wasp also out as a regular figure to pair with the classic Ant-Man. The Quinjet idea is better for a Haslab.
I worry folks wouldn't be that thrilled with another vehicle, but maybe some great tier figures would make it worthwhile?
iF THEY SELL A $400 price point Giant Man THAT SHOULD BE HOTTOYS LEVEL
I REALLY hope they wouldn't try that price point at all. At $400, I might as well just get two Hot Toys when they have a sale.
I don’t mind getting a Giant man I don’t have one but he needs to be appropriately priced he’s got to cost less then buying a Toybiz Giant man, we would need a Hank Pym and a giant Hank head
The TB version was great and I'm sure without that comparison you'd appreciate a Hasbro version even more than some of us.
It wouldn't be overall accurate but they could do it where you could swap the arms and head to make a Black Goliath - Bill Foster
I NEED the HasLab figures to be as accurate as possible to go beyond retail price. I think enough of us would buy Black Goliath that he could and should get us own tooling.
Giant man/ Goliath Haslab? Hank Pym as main haslab project, Black Goliath version unlock one, Clint Barton version unlock two, Erik Josten version unlock three, and Janet Van Dyne unlock four. All for under $200. I'm just joking. A three pack of Giant Man/ Goliath would be a ridiculous size package and take up a lot of display space. I hate speculating so I'll just wait for the reveal and hope it doesn't disappoint.
I don't hate your suggestions on that at all. I think that could work just fine!
@@LylesFigureFiles don't think Hasbro Haslab would go for the price. Collectors would love it, but Hasbro wouldn't.
Ugh, I just hope we eventually get Yellowjacket as a retail release, I don't care for Haslab projects. This is just Hasbro pushing their customers to see how much they can get away with.
Yellowjacket could easily be a retail figure. I could just as easily swap him out with red jumpsuit Hank.
How about the hank pym ultron as an stretch goal
Oh man, I hated how they did my boy Hank with that.
This man talk common sense 👍😉
I appreciate it Cedric!
That’s a cool idea. But my faith in Hasbro and s low so. I have doubts. Would have to see it first.
I’m hoping they can make a (true) believer out of you yet with this one.😁
@@LylesFigureFiles lol. Maybe.
Yes, good video...!! Thanks.!!
For me, ... just me, OK, ... I would be happy with a Classic Giant-Man ... only 12 inches high... bigger than most figures... with a Wasp...!!
Yeah, ... basic 6" versions, ....and smaller versions, too.!!
That's ALL I need.!! .... and the price wouldn't eliminate me, either.!!
Jarvis would be 'very great' to get, too.!! We DO need him...and this would be a great way to work him in.!!
I really have always wanted a Rick Jones... but he always seems to be out of the question, lately...!!
Captain America could use a partner like Rick...!! Rick was instrumental in bringing The Avengers together...!! Why we don't have him as an action figure is a mystery to me.!!
Good call about Rick Jones. I wonder if Hasbro would reconsider revisiting Captain Marvel with more of a 70s/Avengers head sculpt. They could pair him with a Rick for a two-pack.
this wont happen but what if they make it mcu giant man just to mess with people
hopefully its not $300 or more but honestly i dont think giant man needs to be as towering as a sentinel or galactus
I think if they were planning it the lack of success for Quantumamania probably killed off an MCU Giant Man’s chances.
Giant man and Goliath
Yep,I, down for both of em
299.99/329.99… Hasbro won’t go any lower than that probably… they may go 349.99🤔
Those tiers would have to be at the AJ Styles level to hook me at that price.
Yeah I want this, 24 inches max, he smaller than galactus
We DEFINITELY don't need him taller than Galactus.
@@LylesFigureFiles exactly
Usually love your videos but I've gotta speak up here. An 18 inch figure will not cost that much less than a 24 inch figure. I also think there is no way this will be $150! Not from GREEDBRO!
Do you at least think you might date this video for awhile? Sorry, I'm badly in need of a nap. I think $250 needs to be around the max for this HasLab where they can get an easy win and use the extra profit for next year's HasLab.
Giant Man-yes. Quinn Jet-no!
I think they’d have a tricky time trying to convince collectors to go for two vehicles in a row with the HasLab.
Lowkey don’t wanna pay for a jarvice
I think that’s where sneaking him in as a tier would work as supporters wouldn’t be paying for him so much as getting him as a bonus.
NOOOO, PLEASE DON'T!!!!!
A Giant Man Haslab project would be a waste of time, plastic, thought and money😠.
We don't need a bigger Giant Man. The ToyBiz one is just fine!!!!!
I like my TB version as well, but I think Hasbro could do an even better version.
$150 Giant Man...is way too much for me.!!
Giant Man does not have to be huge...!! Just larger than the 6" figures...
12" ... is 'giant' enough for me.!!!
Don't make it so expensive...!! ... that you price me out of the figure.!!
That second take on Giant-Man is probably what ended his series...!! That was not a good look for him.!! We don't NEED HIM...!!
The original ...The Wasp ... would be great.!!
A 12" Giant-Man, ... and an Original ...The Wasp ... small and 6"-scale would be great.!!
In fairness, that's what we end up paying for some of these Build-A-Figure waves so it doesn't sound too bad to pay over $150 for a taller Giant Man.
I'm so scared for a Giant Man. i like the Marvel universe scale for large characters. I don't like the haslab sentinal scale. Its literally to big.
I like that the mcu giant baf size.
Dude, that’s WAY too small for Giant Man. The guy regularly grows to the size of skyscrapers. Giant Man is actually traditionally quite a bit larger than a Sentinel
@@juansanchez209 I think days of future past two pack is the best Sentinel lol.
@@Hot_SpicyGrill But it’s tiny! And less articulated! And has a less detailed sculpt! Sentinels are supposed to be big! It’s objectively worse in pretty much every metric lol
I don’t hate the Marvel Universe scale for giants, but the articulation is really limited.
@@LylesFigureFiles Articulation is about design. that's not because of scale.
Most haslab sentinel shelfs I think look bad. because he's so big.
He struggles to fight X-Men of. Because he's so big. wolverine just needs to fart to be lost in his arm pit.
Ok love your input but I disagree that the quinjet wouldn't fund I know plenty of joe collectors who'd want it for their joes
I think a quinjet would sell but I don’t know if Hasbro would want to chance consecutive vehicle projects not funding.
I hope it's not Giant Man. I personally find it's a really boring design in comparison to the Sentinel & Galactus.
The Quinjet would be amazing!
Well, if they did the older versions of Galactus and the Sentinel you might have found Giant Man's design as boring ;-)
Now you know hasbro arnt doing any cloth goods🤣
Well they are doing it with Hawkeye…Maybe they’d just make a small shell for that attire?
@@LylesFigureFiles I think a shell could work
If Giant man is the new haslab thing I want them to execute this right because I would love to have like a giant giant man but I don't want them to mess up like what they did with the hell charger that's why I want them to execute this right and don't mess up. again I would love to have a big giant named figure in my collection of figures
And tears I don't know what to do I would like to have a new yellow jacket and I also would like to have what you said about Goliath but instead it's yellow jacket or a wasp giant figure black and yellow suit is the Goliath figure I don't know but for other tears I don't know if they do the giant man with a black and red suit I could think they could do a head scope of that new giant man forgot the new giant man's name is I know he has a weird beard got stuck in the the golden great bridge but yes so far I don't know or about tears for giant man just have to wait and see and I hope so they execute this well and don't mess up cuz I really want a giant giant man figure in election
Yep it’s absolutely key that whatever HasLab they do, Hasbro can’t afford for it not to work and fund this time out. With the proper tiers the sky is the limit for it though.
Fin Fang Foom
I’d be worried about how much he’d cost though I always consider him more of an Iron Man foe than an Avengers one.
Neca used to make 18 inch action figures at $100 now they are $125 when Marvel legends where making the 12 in figures they were $50 but the quality was garbage. Even if Hasbro does an 18 inch figure they'll charge $200. Neca was dumb their 1/4 scale line they should have made an Ant-Man not daredevil and deadpool smh
I wish NECA made those larger figures of characters I wanted. They seemed pretty decent from what I remember. Those more "recent" ML 12" figures really had bad articulation.
Not for me, but that's fine.
What would you go for?
@@LylesFigureFiles In terms of a new Haslab? Gee, I really don't know.
I have a Sentinel since it was down my alley as an X-Men thing but with my complete MotU Classics collection including A Greyskull and a Snake Mountain AND an incoming Thundertank space is becoming an issue.
@@bladerunner3314 Oh yeah, space is definitely becoming an issue if you've got all those playsets!
That second outfit was horrible , early bird has to be better than that
What would sell you on an early bird?
@@LylesFigureFiles I think an Ultron/Pym figure would be so dope. When Ultron merged with Pym and had a half Ultron and Hank Pym face
If this is the HasLab I’m no in. Marvel legends fans are some of the most hateful toxic fans in toy collecting. The hell charger was eye opening to see how bad they really are. So I can’t support the HasLab or marvel legends the way I once did. Not because I don’t love marvel legends or Hasbro but the association with marvel legends fans have completely turned me off.
What??? The hell charger was so off base and not what any person who buys legends wanted. It’s really
Fine if people don’t want something. Sure there couple people that are assholes. But you seem way more of a toxic person
lol. You should burn your collection in protest
Mate get over it, if you love it, buy it, if not, then don't. Buy what you love.
Oh get off it. If you are blaming fans for the EoV then something is seriously wrong with you
The _"most hateful toxic"_ behavior you allege was purely confined to the interwebs. The concerning behavior is when it spills into "the real world," like when toy collectors were harassing store employees to get hard to find figures and/or stealing items and running over employees trying to stop them.
If you spend more time off the internet & instead interact more with people in person, you won't be bothered with as much of the keyboard warrior-ing that might happen on message boards/sites/pages/etc. that you must've frequented to come to such conclusions.
Hasbro needs to think about this .
The Engine of Vengeance failed because of the price when compared to other companies .
Yeah and it really wasn't worth that price point at all.