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  • @AndyRCchannel
    @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +3

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    • @veedubin187
      @veedubin187 Місяць тому

      Hi Andy,
      I created this setup, but is seems to puff smoke for 5 seconds and thats it. Do you know what amps the coil needs? Do you have a link to that gadget with the dial on it to control the smoke? I’m soo close!

  • @MysticRiverRC
    @MysticRiverRC 7 місяців тому

    That is an awesome application of technology. I could see it also being used to simulate a broken down vehicle. Well done!

  • @Raydio6
    @Raydio6 2 роки тому +1

    2:47 gonna want one of those

  • @3DMOFO2020
    @3DMOFO2020 2 роки тому +2

    2:38 Awesome Andy I really look forward in seeing that I always wished someone would do a smoke system for electric planes and foamies.

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +2

      its coming. its gonna be epic

    • @gfalgiano
      @gfalgiano 2 роки тому

      @@AndyRCchannel Hey Andy, any updates on the version for electric planes? I've been looking to build or buy a solution since the MrRCSound smoke system is no longer sold.

  • @PERTHWESTOZRC
    @PERTHWESTOZRC 2 роки тому +8

    This device is perfect for rc drift cars and trucks, cheers for sharing Andy 👍

  • @siddheshsalunkhe314
    @siddheshsalunkhe314 11 місяців тому +1

    This is the best diy solution. However I was wondering how to do the connection on a RC car with brushless motor

  • @crddrones3457
    @crddrones3457 2 роки тому +1

    Nice job Andy be careful, banggood will steal that 💡 idea . God bless nice 👏🏻 job 👍

  • @Steve98345
    @Steve98345 2 місяці тому

    I tried this. The unit makes smoke for about 20 seconds then stops. The vaporiser coil fills with liquid. If you suck though it (as if you were vaping), then it starts again but soon stops.
    I think this will work better with a vacuum pump

  • @manuelsolano7525
    @manuelsolano7525 2 роки тому

    Grate job Andy this can be use to fine vacuum leaks in your car.

  • @quadsquad3087
    @quadsquad3087 2 роки тому +7

    sweet, thanks for sharing, looking forward to see a clip with a drift car outside

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      Coming soon! just need to stop raining

  • @Charles-sb6qd
    @Charles-sb6qd 3 місяці тому

    Awsome Andy!! Very handy for RC applications. I am building a dual rig for my big scale James Bond car but I have a question.
    In the video At 7:40 you say that” you have a better solution than this” revering to the soldered wires to the pod.
    Can you give me a hint how you want to do that because the smokepod needs to be easy to replace,
    in case a burnout?

  • @0xphk
    @0xphk 2 роки тому

    hopefully nothing starts burning inside to produce smoke and produces vapor instead ;) great idea and project, thumbs up!

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      thats why using an existing atomizer really interested me because they have to be bullet proof and its stood the test of time for me.

  • @sidi2aasaa545
    @sidi2aasaa545 Рік тому

    aye, put some nicotine ejuice in there, its like a vape withouth needing to suck, just fills your lungs with it lol

  • @ceasarslife7535
    @ceasarslife7535 2 роки тому

    Model trains make lots of smoke

  • @TwistedChaz
    @TwistedChaz 3 місяці тому

    How long do you run it for continuously?

  • @ChainsawFPV
    @ChainsawFPV 2 роки тому

    Thats a way better way then stabbing an overcharged lipo... Lol. Im interested! I fly planes with streamers for quad guys to chase. Adding smoke to the mix would definitely add to the cool factor!

  • @linmajon
    @linmajon 2 роки тому

    Since the airflow thru the nozzle is limited the chamber is much of a pressure chamber. Adding a fan will not give more pressure. An interesting little project though 😊

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      Yes it semems this is the case at least with a pod

  • @drkastenbrot
    @drkastenbrot 2 роки тому

    try a high speed radial fan, they have better static pressure

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      I have tried that but thanks for the suggestion. you know its kind of funny. the fans get to a particular point where they start to cool down the mesh and you get less smoke. The static pressure fans do this because they are more efficient at cooling than airflow. to combat this you can always turn up the pwm value but this puts a lot more strain on the ESC as it has to provide more voltage and current to achieve the same amount of smoke. It also drains the battery faster. This cooling doesn't happen when the atomizer is sucked on but does when blown. I believe this is part of the reason two fans made things worse. Thanks for the input really useful and thanks for watching and giving suggestions

  • @Mikebfpv
    @Mikebfpv 2 роки тому

    Excellent work Andy! I hope we get something reasonable enough in size to run on a five inch someday!

  • @TRITONFPV
    @TRITONFPV 2 роки тому

    That's awesome Andy. I could definitely use something like that in some special effects applications 😎

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      yes it has multiple use cases. theres actually a product called a mini fogger that is basically this for visual effects but they charge 200 dollars for it lol. theres what 14 quid of stuff to do it haha.

    • @TRITONFPV
      @TRITONFPV 2 роки тому

      @@AndyRCchannel Yeah, the minis that are used are way too expensive. I would need something in a small form factor like this that can run off a battery and I can connect some type of contact closer (PIR Sensor, Step Pad, etc) to trigger it. Say like in a campfire scene or similar smoldering sections placed around the set and props. I may be back in contact with you in the near future Andy.

  • @Reecefpv
    @Reecefpv 2 роки тому +4

    This is an awesome idea. And I used to vape rebuildable dripper atomizer that I could make my own coils at whatever ohm I want. And pack it with cotton. But we just need a way to pipe in new propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin so the cotton doesn't dry out and I'm telling you these things really pump out the smoke. These little tips don't put out the same amount of smoke it's meant for vape to mouth then inhale. But the drippers are vape to lung. Just strait to inhale.but they seriously put out some clouds. It would be perfect to use a 40mm 4 coil rebuildable dripper "rda" I know it would work.

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      This works to some extent. Would you feel comfortable constantly blowing on your RDA for say 15 mins constantly wothout the fluid catching fire? If I'm correct an rda would just keep getting hotter and hotter if pressed for a long amount of time as they are unregulated? I'd be interested to know. I went for the Nord 4 as it was a small pod type device that could take 80w. The smallest to do that. Things start to get heavy and messy after that when it comes to box mods etc. Vg also catches fire if it gets too hot for long periods of time so I think the amount of constant smoke we can get won't be better than this. But I'm working on something similar so let's see. I think three of these going at once might be smaller and cleaner

    • @Reecefpv
      @Reecefpv 2 роки тому +1

      @@AndyRCchannel I'd say as long d there was air flow and constant supply of fluid it would be ok. I just worry about the battery because there was always an issue that if an rda got the button pushed in your pocket for too long the battery could explode but that was with 18650's. And with the RDA you could fine-tune your coil to be able to be at that perfect temperature where the air flows just holds the temperature from becoming too much. There's definitely something here. Just needs a few iterations of dialing everything in. I know sometimes I can take the cap off my vape and hold the button and just keep blowing on it as long as the fluid was there We just got to find that sweet spot

    • @Reecefpv
      @Reecefpv 2 роки тому +1

      @@AndyRCchannel It's just nickel wire different gauges and I wrapped it around a dremel bit shaft. Like 10 wraps and I used to use two of them in parallel I believe. then I would just twist up some cotton and feed it through the center of that coil and tuck the extra around it so it can hold more juice just leave the outside of the coil exposed to the air so the vapor can come off of it easier

    • @terravarious
      @terravarious Рік тому +1

      You need to make a video of this with links to the parts you're talking about.

  • @Am_I_really_not_really_I_AM
    @Am_I_really_not_really_I_AM 2 роки тому

    Made something similar to hi-lite my lasers... Yours looks a lot nicer.

  • @alexburrows202
    @alexburrows202 2 роки тому

    That's brilliant! What happens if you put a few drops of food color in the glycerine? Need some colors for muh chemtrails...

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      You won't see coloured smoke that often even in general aviation it's quite complicated and very bad for the environment the Red arrows get a lot of stick for this and are looking for a better solution. In short oil always Burns white. colour the colour has to be added after combustion which is why why even the Red arrows only have have maybe a couple of minutes of coloured smoke compared to to the 10-minutes or so no of white they are just masters at knowing how long to use it for. Google it. Quite interesting

  • @AerialWaviator
    @AerialWaviator 2 роки тому +4

    Great tip on CAD design via photo to 3d-print. Can see that coming in handy for custom parts on future builds. :)

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      Oh for sure in fact I'm doing it now for another project :-)

  • @eatmykwad
    @eatmykwad 2 роки тому

    this is awesome dude, would love to see more on your cad projects and what your upto these days as well :)

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      I will be showing that for sure :) thanks for the interest

  • @fpvanddreams3675
    @fpvanddreams3675 2 роки тому

    The stl is empty Man. Do you replace this? Thank you!!

  • @lazykid2000
    @lazykid2000 2 роки тому +3

    My lipos do the same thing sometimes.....

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      magic smoke ;) a little more toxic and expensive haha

    • @MCsCreations
      @MCsCreations 2 роки тому

      @@AndyRCchannel toxic, but sweet smell. 😬

  • @christophe97197
    @christophe97197 2 місяці тому

    Good morning I would like to have your system to put on a drone. how can I do ? Please

  • @AW-Services
    @AW-Services Рік тому

    I make a smoke emitter from using a voopoo drag 2 vape socket base and plastic standard oem tank and coils were cheap

  • @mxrtin000
    @mxrtin000 Рік тому

    Hi Andy, I'm trying to recreate your Smoker for my RC drift car, but I have a question. When installing it in an RC car, would it have to have 2 ESCs? one for the car engine and another for the smoker? I have a brushless esc and a radiolink that allows channel mixing just like the Flysky Noble NB4.
    If 2 esc are really needed, the second esc should be connected to a receiver channel, but only the data line? leaving out the red (positive) and black (negative) wire
    I hope you can help me solve these questions,
    Thank you!

  • @williamriley497
    @williamriley497 2 роки тому +1

    Hmmm could be onto a idea there using internals frome a vape pen atomisiser and a 1s lipo and a small fan and scale things down smaller for a quodcopter .

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      The problem Is 1s just can't heat them up enough

  • @Master_CrazyGaming-ev9xj
    @Master_CrazyGaming-ev9xj 5 місяців тому +1

    😊😊 1:57

  • @cab4word
    @cab4word 2 роки тому

    Andy where can I find that litytle smoke unit. i want to install in a small train

  • @choppergirl
    @choppergirl 2 роки тому

    I'd use a homemade solid chemical reaction sugar smoke grenade. Recipies on YT.
    No electricity required, but then, you've got a fire hazard if the model crashes before it's out. Once it's lit, no stopping it except submerging it or cutting off it's oxygen supply.

  • @bobturner3388
    @bobturner3388 2 роки тому

    Glycerol/Glycerin/sugar!

  • @htetlinnnaing6233
    @htetlinnnaing6233 2 роки тому

    How about brushless bro.

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      Brushless?

    • @htetlinnnaing6233
      @htetlinnnaing6233 2 роки тому

      @@AndyRCchannel yep, how about smoke system for brushless ESC in RC car.

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      @@htetlinnnaing6233 oh got ya. You have to use two escs weather it's brushed or brushless or u will blow it

  • @spaced-mouse
    @spaced-mouse 2 роки тому +1

    This is super awesome! Thank you for showing us!
    I cant wait for you to share more about the RC Plane smoke device!

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      me too, just the weather causing delays with that one

  • @rajeshkanulla806
    @rajeshkanulla806 4 місяці тому

    Very lag

  • @SuperYASSERARAFAT
    @SuperYASSERARAFAT 3 місяці тому

    Is this 4 sale yet

  • @rayrosedale6218
    @rayrosedale6218 Рік тому

    This is an awesome unit. Does anybody make this or sell this already made? If it's the right plate press I will buy 5 of them.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 2 роки тому

    Awesome work, Andy! Well done!!! 😃
    I've seen something like that before, but the person made the vaporizer, let's say. It was years ago and I don't remember details, but he basically used some kind of cotton with some fabric around it and nickel chrome wires to make the coil... And used the exact same kind of oil you did... Or it was glycerin in gel... I really can't remember.
    Then he put everything in a box (maybe a metallic box, I don't know) and used a small 10a esc to drive it. Then you could put it in a switch and so on...
    Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      there have been attempts in the past to make a product like you describe but they are not safe because there is no way to regulate the coils from going into thermal over run and the fluid catching fire, which is why you dont see them for sale any more. Burnout daemon and burn effect were two products you could buy in a store but after my research I would imagine there would have been so many incidences of some sort of fire or RMA it wasnt worth it to make them (VG has a very low ignition temp) you also cant cater for what someone's ESC can handle and how much things like motors running at the same time will have an effect on the current and voltage that can be provided to the devices you are referring to. so in short you would have to work out what your over all voltage sag and current draw is, on top of your smoke system and cater a custom length coil and ESC for that model, which these discontinued products did not do. At least with this method if anything goes wrong the coil just breaks before anything will catch fire. However I do have another idea im working on. but then today I thought. well what if i just run two or three of these, the ESC can easily take it haha. cant stop my brain from thermal overrun at the moment. Thanks for your input as always man you know your stuff

    • @MCsCreations
      @MCsCreations 2 роки тому

      @@AndyRCchannel That could define be a great idea, Andy! 😃
      But yeah, it's definitely not safe. That's why I never tried something like that! I only use nickel chrome wire for foam cutters and lighters! 😂

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      @@MCsCreations they are very good for that haha

  • @RcDriftGuy1
    @RcDriftGuy1 Рік тому

    Did you have a problem with your car turning off how did you handle the power

  • @Cormano980
    @Cormano980 Рік тому +1

    Nice , you can also add a small tube connected to the sound system if you have one , that way the smoke will pulsate in accordance with the engine revs , basically an acoustic smoker

    • @eskee1
      @eskee1 6 місяців тому

      Can you explain this in more detail?

    • @Cormano980
      @Cormano980 6 місяців тому

      @eskee1 there's a guy who made one on UA-cam, basically you drill a hole into the speaker and put a tube in it, the tube then goes into the smoke generator thru a hole you made in it too, so the sound travels from the speaker to the smoke generator and shapes the smoke according to the engine sounds

  • @AdrianoCasemiro
    @AdrianoCasemiro 2 роки тому +1

    Battle of Britain enacting is coming up!

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      there is lots coming up thanks for watching.

    • @AdrianoCasemiro
      @AdrianoCasemiro 2 роки тому

      @@AndyRCchannel Pleasure is all mine, you flying rock star you.

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      @@AdrianoCasemiro ah bless ya

  • @MrEdwards59
    @MrEdwards59 2 роки тому

    Hi Andy could you send me the stl files or put a link up. Impressive smoke generation.

  • @7demo7review
    @7demo7review 2 роки тому

    Super cool Andy!!

  • @Raydio6
    @Raydio6 2 роки тому

    This is something I’m currently working on

  • @fpvcombat
    @fpvcombat 2 роки тому

    How can I get in contact with you?
    I truly believe we should have a talk since this is something that really matches my system: FPV Combat!

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      Email address is in the about page. Cheers

    • @fpvcombat
      @fpvcombat 2 роки тому

      @@AndyRCchannel I wrote you an email, did you got it?

  • @mdebu85
    @mdebu85 2 роки тому

    Woow, this is the perfect tool for leak checking of car engine intake systems😃 👍

  • @oddeman3489
    @oddeman3489 2 роки тому

    A new green deal, I want one for my rc drift car my fpv drone and my rc boat, 💯

  • @Rich-TeaFPV
    @Rich-TeaFPV 2 роки тому

    definitely be buying this and sticking it on my planes👍👍 nice one Andy.

  • @joshlikessurfing
    @joshlikessurfing 2 роки тому

    Great work! This has always been super annoying to set up. Lots of times we just did a smoke grenade with a rocket fuse. Would love to see if this works in flight.

  • @fluoxethine
    @fluoxethine 2 роки тому

    I don't think it's RC because you didn't put it on a drone. Make colored smoke.

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      RC = radio controlled and that phrase has existed 80 years plus before drones exited. if you watch 2:41 of the video you will see a drone producing green smoke.. something else that im working on. you can watch that full vid here: ua-cam.com/video/Jsd1E_uht7c/v-deo.html yes thats me using a stabilized 360 cam in 2017 but how does the saying go. Pioneers leave with arrows in their back? haha. Now everyone's doing it as I predicted

  • @markcloudchaser874
    @markcloudchaser874 2 роки тому

    Use max Vg Vape Juice, it gives you more dense cloud's. I'm always chucking cloud's, I've got 4 shelf's full of mech mods, pods, regulated mods lol..ps Vg is for cloud's and PG is for throat hit. 👍👊

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      thats what im using :) highest grade vg you can buy but the 3.99 stuff a litre works exactly the same so i think if you are paying over the odds for vg they might be taking advantage of you. People like to blast logos and numbers on stuff to charge a fortune but its the same thing vg = Vegetable glycol 7:53

  • @fezztv7542
    @fezztv7542 2 роки тому

    Want one ☝️ sign me up,

  • @nevillelamont6109
    @nevillelamont6109 Рік тому

    Do you sell these???

  • @rc-trassa
    @rc-trassa Рік тому

    Very cool👍 thank you🙏

  • @rockman49er
    @rockman49er 2 роки тому

    Nichrome wire?

  • @GorillaFPV4life
    @GorillaFPV4life 9 місяців тому

    Thank you Andy

  • @OliFPV
    @OliFPV 2 роки тому

    Awesome 🍀💨😱 thats what i also think about ☝️ great little build 🤙 lg and ceya 💚

    • @OliFPV
      @OliFPV 2 роки тому

      Vape system 🤙 #McGyverStyle ⚡

  • @garyblake9665
    @garyblake9665 2 роки тому

    Vapour...

  • @stefansekej3047
    @stefansekej3047 2 роки тому

    Really cool! Well done 😁👌🏻

  • @dronereviewman9580
    @dronereviewman9580 2 роки тому

    so cool

  • @stevefox3763
    @stevefox3763 2 роки тому

    Ha ha, i vape and have looked at mine many times and thought it would work well as a mini smoke machine! I would put that unit upright and run a pipe from the output though as very quickly the fluid levels will drop and half your wick will no longer be submerged.

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      The cars battery would run out before it started to do that. I do wonder though people don't vape with their heads facing down what I have observed. So surely this happens anyways? I did think about that but a pipe may restrict the airflow. People's lungs have a lot more power than a 5v fan but thx for the idea

    • @stevefox3763
      @stevefox3763 2 роки тому

      @@AndyRCchannel some do vape that way and some dont, i keep mine as upright as possible as soon as the level falls below full for the reason i described.
      My vape is a SMOK, the same brand as you used but mine is the standardized 510 electrical socket for the tank but uses SMOK baby beast elements, mine has a 10mm port at the outlet end, adding a 10mm fish tank tube to mine would not really restrict it but the type of tank i have has its inlet on the sides of the base instead of the bottom like yours so would require a different design to make it work.
      I am super interested in the process of converting photos to things useable in 3D files, many times i have wondered if i could put something on my scanner and somehow use the image to generate templates for 3D printing designs, could you share the process or links to a guid or maybe even do a video on how you go about converting the images?
      I see your using Tinkercad, in two years of 3D printing, i still use Tinkercad, its so easy to use and although its not as capable as the other things out there its not brain exploding complicated like them!
      I have got so good at using it that i can find workarounds for anything it cant do natively :)

  • @jerryburnham5594
    @jerryburnham5594 2 роки тому

    Are you selling this if so I’d love to buy one as a kit

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      No the idea is you can make it yourself with the parts listed :-)

  • @UnfairFrame653
    @UnfairFrame653 2 роки тому

    i want to see how you did the backfire on the rc car with head tracker

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      It will all be coming. just a lot of work :) but a passion project thats gonna massively pay off

    • @UnfairFrame653
      @UnfairFrame653 2 роки тому

      Im exited to see the full video. keep up the amazing work!

  • @MT-xy7fw
    @MT-xy7fw 2 роки тому

    How do you fly with shaky fingers?

  • @whiteyguitar666
    @whiteyguitar666 2 роки тому

    Started me coughing lol

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      it wont even do that even though it looks like it would. PG very safe and is probably in most things you eat

  • @skree_fpv436
    @skree_fpv436 2 роки тому

    This is really cool Andy! I've recently gotten into micro 1/28-1/24 scale drift cars. I would love to put a smoker in them but sadly I think they are just to small. There is a channel you should check out called 'RC Backfire and Smoker-Derrick Lee' that makes these for smoke systems for drift cars. His system also produces backfire with actual flames.

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +2

      me and derrick are good friends :) yeah if you want smoke and backfires 1/10 is what you need although ill be showing a way to create more space inside rc cars. There is a lot of waste. I feel coming from the fpv world a lot of tricks are being missed in the rc car world

    • @skree_fpv436
      @skree_fpv436 2 роки тому

      @@AndyRCchannel That's awesome that you guys are friends! I do have a couple bigger scale RC trucks. I may give your system a try as an exhaust effect. I already have some VG and a Nord vaporizer I don't use anymore.

  • @GrimSpeedFPV
    @GrimSpeedFPV 2 роки тому

    This is pretty awesome Andy!! I like your ideas man.

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you. This is what im enjoying at the moment.

  • @RubyS.1
    @RubyS.1 2 роки тому

    That's quite a good idea

  • @bg563195
    @bg563195 2 роки тому

    Go to city plumbing and ask for some smoke bombs, we use them in the domestic gas trade to test chimneys and flues. They ignite with a lighter or hot coil

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      you cant stop and start them though right or control the volume using PWM? its ok i have a solution to that :)

    • @bg563195
      @bg563195 2 роки тому

      Have you tried a bit of diesel

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому

      @@bg563195 there are oils that produce denser smoke but they come at the price of being toxic and extremely smelly. Baby oil is what most GA use these days but it stinks, even the red arrows are looking for alternative solutions because they are very bad for the enviroment. VG can be used inside with no smell and no harm to anything. just hide the fire alarm haha

    • @bg563195
      @bg563195 2 роки тому

      @@AndyRCchannel it would make a good lost model alarm too, you'll see it miles away

  • @zeekmx1970
    @zeekmx1970 2 роки тому

    That would be fantastic for model trains.

    • @AndyRCchannel
      @AndyRCchannel  2 роки тому +1

      Yes I'm fact I was thinking you could put some kind of servo flap on thete to emulate the smoke puffing rather than constant

    • @zeekmx1970
      @zeekmx1970 2 роки тому

      @@AndyRCchannel - I believe there's a bright future for you kind of talent in RC Andy.