My great grandfather found Union Army treasure at Fort Lowell Tucson AZ back in the early 1900’s when the fort was still standing. My great grandfather found a 1865 Springfield 50-70 trapdoor rifle that was hidden up in the rafters. I still have it, it’s been in our family for over 100 years. It was missing the cleaning or ram rod and the bayonet. I located these original items and put them on the rifle up on the wall in my great room with a 1864 Ames wrist breaker sword.
It is a large area and a lot of beautiful canyons and trees. I spent several months up there over several years hiking and looking trying to look at every angle to the story and what might have been true and what might have been imagined. Anyway, it was all an adventure and one I won't forget. The treasure hunt in the end was just a reason to go and disappear for a while. Enjoy it if you go! Cheers, Greg Hawk
I always love a good treasure hunting story. I have my own lost treasure channel so I KNOW how much time and effort it took for you to put this together and I appreciate it!
Thank you very much and you are right it takes a lot to put together a good tresasure story. I have been out of state working the last couple of years so am getting back into the swing of things. I hope to have several real good ones posted by the end of the year. I will check out your stories and thanks again. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Sir, thank you for sending a comment from across the water. That is wonderful that these videos have reached such a distance. May your treasure hunting be successful, if not, just enjoy the adventure as I do. Cheers, Greg Hawk
A good tale well told! You had me running the math on the volume of Civil War-era powder kegs, the weight of gold coins, and how much a typical wagon could haul with the team you described. Thanks for the mental workout and the added excitement of the prospect of treasure to be found.
North on Battleground Ridge to you come to a left turn where there are some large rocks on the left and a small water hole or pit as I remember. After turning left go about 200 yards and get off the dirt road to your left. Hike down into the canyon and up the other side and search along the top of the ridge. That's the best direction I can give you as to the ridge I found. Good Hunting and Enjoy the Quiet! Cheers, Greg Hawk
I love this story! Seems to have alot of credibility from my research. If I'm not up there in the area in the spring and fall hunting mushrooms, them I'm metal detecting old homesites in this area. Thanks for all the great videos you have provided to light the spirit of exploration that's in our DNA. On with the hunt!!!??
Wow what a beautiful place! So happy to have come across this video to discover that camping location. Definitely will be visiting that place later this year!
Logically because there was so many kegs the place these are buried are in fact near a wagon trail or a road nowadays. People bury things near springs cause manual labor works up a sweat. It makes perfect sense that the spring is near a road. People camped at springs years ago and still do.
I did a follow up to this story as one of the viewers commented on it and his story was logical. Check it out on my website treasure blog at Desertroamerpress.com Cheers, Greg Hawk
It is a good reason to go hiking and poking around a bit. At the end of the day youwill feel good that you enjoyed the peace and quiet that nature had provided. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Glad you enjoyed it! We have been busy the last couple of years but now have several really interesting treasure videos coming out in the next couple of months so stay tuned. Cheers, Greg Hawk
@@davecook3296 The story was told to me by the old guy I mentioned in my book that lived in Strawberry. He didn't mention the writer's name that the old Mexican guy told the story to. This happened back about 1970 when the writer was told the story. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Yes, it is some beautiful country, and it doesn't take much to get off the beaten trail and do some investigative hiking while never seeing anyone. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Thanks so much for some good content, do you know how hard it is to fall asleep? Great story and it takes a week of watching to finish, I'm not trying to be mean but its great content. I love a good story. And I love how you tell them.
I like the way you set up the map, and mark it for me. I will scan that one with my Eagletraun, on GoogleEarth. If I get a hit, then I can go to the area, and use the Gravitraun. Another wagonload of Confederate gold wound up in Washington State, where I live. I'm looking for it. Hope to find it soon!
@@randomtangents5204 Thank you for the lead. I seem to remember, that Maurice Kildare, a Treasure Writer, from Flag Staff, did an article on this one. It was insufficient for me to sink my teeth into, way back in the Seventies. But, it did seem ta 'grab a'holt' of me at the time.....
Davey, sorry to hear of your loss. Many have lost their lives chasing "Devils Gold." I just updated my blog at www.desertroamerpress.com on this particular treasure story after reading one of the comments I received recently. There are several stories surrounding the lost gold coins but exactly how they got there has always been in question.
@@randomtangents5204 great story ! Yup, it ain't worth it. I still treasure hunt, I have very different reasons nowadays. Brings back memories of the good days. I do believe though, that some things are cursed. Those things, cost lives. A real look before ya leap kinda deal, cause there ain't no comin back from the dead. Sometimes a thing is best, left alone. That's what I learned, first hand. Keep up the awesome work !
I have a lot of information on this place my dad has been searching for almost 30 years I may have a better location however things last time became a little paranormal and my dad passed away 7 months ago. I've also wanted to search for it but I never knew it was cursed. It makes since though because the last time my dad came across this he had gotten in a life threatening car accident after trying to come back home but he tattooed the storys to my head and theirs a lot to this then others may know
Nobody hasn't found John Mosby's lost Confederate treasure here in Virginia either. Time to get my metal detector out and plane ticket to Flagstaff. Good story.
Anyways 😅 He told me About This Same Story of The Gold Treasures in Different parts of ARIZONA 😲 I Did Believe him as all the other stuff Did check out a also got his spurs and Saddle Scabbard And 1938 Winchester 30 - 30 saddle Ring. A GREAT pick as I was Antique Hunting for 50 Yrs till 3 years ago as my health Went
Thanks Mike! That's one heck of a story and it would have been nice to have documented the stories that guy had to tell. That would have been a real gold mine in itself laced with the history of that era. Thanks Again! Greg Hawk
To be honest, I don't pack any iron it's too much extra weight. Besides, I never have had problems with animals, it is probably more dangerous walking the streets of Chicago. Cheers, Greg Hawk
@@randomtangents5204 for sure Chiraq is deadly just like any other major metropolitan city. Maybe you can put a can of mace on your key ring just for schidtz & giggles.. your stories are absolute internet gold. Thank you 🙏
One five gallon bucket of gold weight about 800 pounds, I think a keg would hold about 5 gallon could be more , even so 16 x 800= 12,800 lbs of gold . this would of been quite the undertaking for 2 guys with one wagon in that terrain They could of ran off with it and no would know, I think the story is BS
They were supposedly nail kegs which would weigh 100 lbs. Being filled with gold coins would definitely be a lot more weight. I would say, if there is any turth to the story, that the kegs weren't filled to the brim. Still a lot of gold though. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Actually it was the payroll for Fort Apache not confederate but Cavalry. Lieutenant Summerhayes was leading the first resupply mission on "Crooks Trail" from Camp Verde to Fort Apache. The year was 1874 and a wagon was lost over the cliffs when two mules separated from a team of six leaving four mules and a wagon to plummet over a cliff several hundred feet and not retrievable. This is documented in a book by Margaret Summerhayes called "Vanishing Arizona". Seems Margaret was fond of the mules a was saddened to hear four had perished along with a wagon. Not knowing at the time what was in the wagon she found it to be the wagon that held her fine china and silverware she had brought from New England. The wagon also carried the $3,000 plus payroll in $20 Gold Pieces and Silver Coins it also had a cargo of Winchester Repeater rifles.
Bret, I started thinking about the story you told, and it may solve some of the issues with the story I told as some parts didn't quite make sense. The two Mexican hunters made sense if they stumbled onto the kegs of gold coins but where they actually came from was always a little unbelievable after I did some research. The old guy who told me the story said there was a monument at Chavas Pass marking the graves of the people from the wagon train that were killed by the Indians. The only monument there is one to a battle there where one U.S. Cavalryman lost his life. I never could find the story about the wagon train being attacked. I will have to find the book you mentioned to read the story. Thanks for the information and I will put this on my blog updating what I thought was true. Thanks Again, Greg Hawk
I was once working an old building in Missouri removing some bricks from an old chimney and I found a 1914 Indian head nickel and then I was able to retire
ANy update since 2020? I've been there numerous times. Crawfish out at Potato Lake. Interested if you hvae anything else on this treasure. I know better than to ask if you found it. ;-)
A month or so ago a fellow posted a story he read in a book about the lost gold treasure. If you scroll down, you will see what he wrote about it, or you can go to my website under the treasure blog and read it. His name is Bret da Costa and the story sounded like it was documented and sort of matches some of the story I was told. Enjoy the outdoors, the solitude, the quiet as they are all also treasures. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Sadly, a lot of treasure stories that took place 100 to 150 years ago are now located in wilderness areas or communities have grown up around where the story took place. It is becoming harder and harder to get away and enjoy the adventure of some of these stories but that is progress. Cheers, Greg Hawk
He Also had a Broken up Wagon in a Garage I still could read US on the sides ! I had not enough room in my trailer to haul it. He said The Bones of horse's we're all Around This wagon ! Up on the Rim Damn Mogallon Rim if that's spelled Rite ? Also he had collected A VERY Large Matate And Manos too all over Arizona he had at one Time 175 of them that could be hauled out by Mules. He had 4 pack Saddles for the Mules in VERY good Shape . He had also Weapon's for sale most were Relics he'd found in the 30s 40s into the 50s and 60s a bit of The 1970s then he retired . When in the hospital Many of these Matates were Stolen from around his driveway! I Bought a Remington Rolling Block that was STILL Ok to use With BLK powder. It was Found in a Cave of a Very Very Old copper Turquoise Mine and had a Strong Color on the Wood from the Mine he says was Found in 1937 ! 1870s Gun the Apache we're using the Area And most of Arizona as their Domain.
Mike, That is a pretty impressive story and too bad we can't turn back time and go back and talk to that old feller. I bet he was full of interesting stories and the wagon and bones around it could have been useful information is the search for the lost barrels of coins. Thanks for sharing the story. Cheers, Greg Hawk
@@mikelang8020 do you remember any other info about wagon and contents. Did he find rifles and gold coins. Or in what area he was in when he found the wagon. Thanks
Trever, I have an update on this story that my shed some more light on where the gold came from. Go to www.desertroamerpress.com/update-to-the-treasure-in-the-arizona-mountains and read the comment from one of the viewers. Thanks, Greg Hawk
What is the "Big Hole" that the Mexican gentleman tossed the remaining coins into? A google search only turns up Sunset Crater Volcano, which isn't really a "hole."
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner! The best I can say is that it was the big meteorite crater outside of Flagstaff. That is the only big hole I know about. Cheers, Greg Hawk
A lot of people would make up stories about gold or treasure being cursed so people wouldn't go looking for it or to encourage people to leave it if they happened to find it.
There are a lot of made up stories that say there is a curse on certain treasures. It makes for a more intriguing story that one may wish to read about and makes good movies! I just told this story as it was told to me and hopefully you enjoyed it. Cheers, Greg Hawk
@@randomtangents5204 It was a great story, I enjoyed listening to it. The thought I had while listen was, I wonder if the guys actually ended up keeping the treasure but never told anyone and told the story about the curse to cover for it or something? I guess we'll never know for sure. Anyway, great story. I've enjoyed watching the videos on your channel. Keep up the good work.
Well, there are a lot of stories for sure and some treasures have been found. If you did find a treasure, would you tell the world or would you keep it a secret and use it only when you needed it? I know one treasure hunter who found a cache of gold bars and only goes back once a year to pull out a couple to supplement his social security income. No one knows the difference and he lives comfortably. Thanks for your interest in the videos. Cheers, Greg Hawk
I just posted another story on my blog at www.desertroamerpress.com/adventure_blog sent to me by one of the viewers. It tells of lost gold, rifles and china from a wagon that went over a ledge. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Soo have you guys found anything? Whats an update on your searching. The Validity of the Gold Coins being there is what I really question bc if you truthfully think about it even if your talking about a lot of gold coins being there in existence you'd think that if they are gone you'd think that some were left over due to the size of the kegs and loseing some over the rim of the kegs when they were poured out to touch and look at. I'm just really in denial if they existed at all bc of finding none over the years. Even if you found one GD you could make something of it but nobody has found none since the story was told. Soo the genius of this story is the Kegs are buried and if they can be found. Do you think he got his directions mixed up with where he was when he found the Kegs of Gold? I just think they are in a different place from where he stated he was at.
I'm still stuck in the thought how these men buried these Kegs and got them together up these rocky inclines or got through an area without destroying one of the kegs due to going over rocks repeatidly just to find a burial site for them. Where is the natural thought of these men needing to bury Kegs full of money soo their had to be a reason for purposely leaveing them there for whatever their reasoning behind it was to do something specifically with them in such a moutainous region.
Brian, there is an update to this story that a viewer shared with me. It tells of a similar story which may carry more weight than this one. Check it out on my treasure blog at: www.desertroamerpress.com/adventure_blog on the Update to this story. Cheers, Greg Hawk
One never knows what one may find. It is a large area to search but there is not a lot of trash that you have to worry about picking up with your metal detector. Good Hunting! Cheers, Greg Hawk
Since gold was illegal to own, they probably figured it was worth at least a bottle of whiskey since they had a pocket full of them. Thanks for watching! Cheers, Greg Hawk
OMG 😱 I was on a Trip in Arizona and I was in Town of Payson at a Antique shop to buy Stuff and got talking to a Older Man just hanging out at this store he says I've got Animal Skins Trap and A Wagon I want to sell ! It was 1984 the man's Name was Ken Kiggins,he had been a Federal Animal Hunter. He was Attacked by a Black Bear on the Ridge Area and Killed It, the Critter' was positive for Rabies So he had to go through the Treatments for this only known Bear Attack on a Human ! As I looked at the proof he had a Large Binder of his Attack on Newspaper clipping of it. Damn He also had a Pile of traps Marked Property of the Federal Government.
Thanks, I will have to research that robbery. This story was told to me by an old guy in Strawberry, AZ and I searched hi and low for it. Beautiful country! Cheers, Greg Hawk
The old guy who I mention in my book told me the story as told to him by a writer of a treasure hunting magazine. He didn't say what magazine but it must have been popular in the 1970's is my best guess. I was contacted by a fellow about this story and he tied in a story of a woman who had a covered wagon and was robbed. In her wagon was her valubles and some gold coins. He sent me the published story and it seemed to be up in that same part of the country. Maybe the Mexican fellas found a small stache from that robbery? Anyway, I posted it on my website under one of my blogs at the time. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Great story and not a disbeliever but if 16 barrels of gold were transported and hidden buy two people that would have to been a pretty monumentous feet right !
A couple of months ago a fellow sent a response to this story and he mentioned a book that told of a story about a woman having a wagon with her belongings, including china and gold coins, getting away up on the rim and crashing down into a canyon. The story seemed to fit into the area I have searched, and it made me wonder. Treasure stories over the years grow by leaps and bounds and the true story and the values lost seem to grow exponentially. If I can find the story sent to me, I will publish it on my treasure blog at desertroamerpress.com Cheers, Greg Hawk
At the time he traded the $20 gold piece in for the bottle of whiskey, gold was illegal to own. I imagine the guy who sold him the whiskey kept it quiet and who knows what he did with it. There was probably a black market going on trading gold for other things. As I understand it the US government gave people $20/ounce for their gold when they turned it in and then passed into law the gold standard which said gold would back the US dollar at $35/oz. People who had turned in their gold to the government lost $15/oz and the government won. This stayed that way until President Nixon repealed the law in, I believe 1971. From there the US dollar was never backed by gold anymore and you can see how worthless our fiat currency has become. Gold is now hovering around $2,400/oz. Hang on to your gold! Cheers, Greg Hawk
Those coins would be redeemed somewhere and the dated year would of been turned over to their findings. I really don't think they were in the right area I think it was in a different area.
I just posted on my blog: www.desertroamerpress.com/adventure_blog a story that may tie into this story about a wagon with gold, guns and china that went amiss up on the Mogollon Rim. A viewer had read a similar story in a book he listed and may well be worth reading. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Unique thing to me is that if this was the Confederate Army that buried those coins, then the coins are of gold that most likely was mined in North Carolina and Georgia. Both states were the prime producers of gold for the South at that time. The coins probably include coins minted by the only private mint that ever existed in the US, that being the Christopher Bechtlor coins. He was an immigrant from Baden, Germany and he brought with him his knowledge of goldsmith and metal working. So much gold was being found around the area that he decided to make gold coins for people who wanted to have a reliable exchange of value for their gold. He minted coins with set values that could be exchanged in lieu of weighing out and bartering. The US government came in and set up their own mints in Charlotte, NC and Dahlonega, Georgia thus putting an end to the Bechtlor coins. Surely, this confederate treasure would contain some of these rare and valuable coins. They would be worth a fortune today.
I was told the story by an old guy who lived in Strawberry, AZ about the two Mexican hunters coming across the buried nail kegs of gold coins. The old guy passed away 20 years ago and I never asked him how he connected the story together with that of a wagon coming west to California with kegs of gold coins. The story goes that the confederate treasure was buried in kegs along railroad tracks at the end of the war. It is an anomaly, but yes the coins would be worth a fortune today.
Only one thing baffles me. Why only take 20 coins? Why not take as much as you can carry? Doesn't make sense to me. Also wouldn't there be records of a missing confederate shipment of gold? Just based on those two things I think he was just telling a good story.
Rich, old John, who I mention in my book, lived in Strawberry and told me the story as he knew the writer who was friends with the Mexican fellow. I possibly believe they found some nail kegs full of coins but I don't know how old John came up with the idea it was part of the Confederate Treasure. Gold at that time was illegal to own and I would suspect the Mexicans didn't want to get caught with very much of it on them. They could aways come back for more. That's my take on the story. Cheers, Greg Hawk
If you supply a solution to the treasure puzzle I would be glad to split it with you if it works. If you know the key to it why don't you just go after it yourself? Just Asking? Cheers, Greg Hawk You can always contact me at greghawklives@gmail.com
That all depends on whose property it is on and where the treasure came from. Some of the big treasures that were found at sea spent years in the courts deciding who go what. I will be posting on my website soon about a $100 bill I hid close to Pine Springs and don't think it was found last year. You would need a metal detector to find it as it is in a mason jar with a metal lid. Stay Tuned! Cheers, Greg Hawk
Do a little research as there used to be a stage route from Santa Fe to Prescott and they were both territorial capitals prior to statehood. There is a lot of history around Prescott if interested and one of my next videos will be on the Walnut Grove Dam Disaster of 1890 and the lost safe of gold. Cheers, Greg Hawk
I have researched hundreds of treasure stories over the years, and some have a small thread of truth to them, and many are stories written for money and entirely fabricated. After a lot of research on this story I always asked myself how the confederate treasure part of it entered into the story? Another person who watched this video gave me some insight as to what possibly might have happened that started the story. For more on this check out the update to this story on my website at: www.desertroamerpress.com/update-to-the-treasure-in-the-arizona-mountains Cheers, Greg Hawk
My great grandfather found Union Army treasure at Fort Lowell Tucson AZ back in the early 1900’s when the fort was still standing. My great grandfather found a 1865 Springfield 50-70 trapdoor rifle that was hidden up in the rafters. I still have it, it’s been in our family for over 100 years. It was missing the cleaning or ram rod and the bayonet. I located these original items and put them on the rifle up on the wall in my great room with a 1864 Ames wrist breaker sword.
Thanks for Sharing, Cheers, Greg Hawk
Awesome
You stole from the US government
Love Arizona it has everything you could want, history, folklore, desert, mountains and history galore
Plenty of history in Arizona for sure
Needs water
Don't forget Rattlesnakes, Cougars, Shape Shiffters!
And illegals drug smugglers my opinion😊
I love your stories and your knowledge of the countryside.
Thank You, glad you enjoyed the videos. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Nice areas, that's a huge area to search for some lost barrels of gold.
It is a large area and a lot of beautiful canyons and trees. I spent several months up there over several years hiking and looking trying to look at every angle to the
story and what might have been true and what might have been imagined. Anyway, it was all an adventure and one I won't forget. The treasure hunt in the end was just a reason to go and disappear for a while. Enjoy it if you go! Cheers, Greg Hawk
Great story! Well narrated. Makes me want to hunt for some gold!
Don't believe anything that you hear,and only half the shit you see,and you'll do great in life ..
If only people would stop believing everything the government and media says
There's a lot to this story that has credibility.Do your own research and you might be amazed.
I always love a good treasure hunting story. I have my own lost treasure channel so I KNOW how much time and effort it took for you to put this together and I appreciate it!
Thank you very much and you are right it takes a lot to put together a good tresasure story. I have been out of state working the last couple of years so am getting back into the swing of things. I hope to have several real good ones posted by the end of the year. I will check out your stories and thanks again. Cheers, Greg Hawk
@@randomtangents5204 Alright Greg looking forward to your vids they're awesome
Mr. Hawk, I enjoyed listening to your story. Buried treasure is still being found in many places, especially here, in Israel.
Sir, thank you for sending a comment from across the water. That is wonderful that these videos have reached such a distance. May your treasure hunting be successful, if not, just enjoy the adventure as I do. Cheers, Greg Hawk
A good tale well told! You had me running the math on the volume of Civil War-era powder kegs, the weight of gold coins, and how much a typical wagon could haul with the team you described. Thanks for the mental workout and the added excitement of the prospect of treasure to be found.
I did an update on this story that you can find on my blog page at desertroamerpress.com if you are interested. Thanks for watching! Cheers, Greg Hawk
recently came upon your channel im loving these stories
Glad you like them! More to come in the future.
Any soldier would went for the high ground, look for the highest peak that gave them the best protection and view of their surrounding area.
Really nice story, if only I could find this outcrop!!!
North on Battleground Ridge to you come to a left turn where there are some large rocks on the left and a small water hole or pit as I remember. After turning left go about 200 yards and get off the dirt road to your left. Hike down into the canyon and up the other side and search along the top of the ridge. That's the best direction I can give you as to the ridge I found. Good Hunting and Enjoy the Quiet! Cheers, Greg Hawk
I love this story! Seems to have alot of credibility from my research. If I'm not up there in the area in the spring and fall hunting mushrooms, them I'm metal detecting old homesites in this area. Thanks for all the great videos you have provided to light the spirit of exploration that's in our DNA. On with the hunt!!!??
You are welcome, glad you enjoyed the journey. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Wow what a beautiful place! So happy to have come across this video to discover that camping location. Definitely will be visiting that place later this year!
Enjoy the area as you can find a place to camp away from the maddening crowd where it is peaceful. Enjoy! Cheers, Greg Hawk
Logically because there was so many kegs the place these are buried are in fact near a wagon trail or a road nowadays. People bury things near springs cause manual labor works up a sweat. It makes perfect sense that the spring is near a road. People camped at springs years ago and still do.
I did a follow up to this story as one of the viewers commented on it and his story was logical. Check it out on my website treasure blog at Desertroamerpress.com Cheers, Greg Hawk
Oh man I'm up there all the time. Next time I'll be ready lol
It is a good reason to go hiking and poking around a bit. At the end of the day youwill feel good that you enjoyed the peace and quiet that nature had provided. Cheers, Greg Hawk
I still got the case when gpa went hunting in the 80s
Thanks for sharing....
My pleasure, more on the way that are interesting. Cheers, Greg Hawk
@@randomtangents5204 Odds are this treasure is still lost. Would love to look for it.
Great story, Thank You.
Glad you enjoyed it! We have been busy the last couple of years but now have several really interesting treasure videos coming out in the next couple of months so stay tuned. Cheers, Greg Hawk
A lot of folklore about treasure throughout the country. Always fun to hear about them and wonder if they’re true.
From w random mexican..🤭
Always an Adventure
@@randomtangents5204 what was the name of the guy that wrote for the treasure magazine?
@@davecook3296 The story was told to me by the old guy I mentioned in my book that lived in Strawberry. He didn't mention the writer's name that the old Mexican guy told the story to. This happened back about 1970 when the writer was told the story. Cheers,
Greg Hawk
@@randomtangents5204 my guess would be maurice kildare...he also wrote under the name tony richardson...gladwell richardson
Love the area! I found numerous mines around that area!
Yes, it is some beautiful country, and it doesn't take much to get off the beaten trail and do some investigative hiking while never seeing anyone. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Thanks so much for some good content, do you know how hard it is to fall asleep? Great story and it takes a week of watching to finish, I'm not trying to be mean but its great content. I love a good story. And I love how you tell them.
Thanks, glad you like it in so many different ways. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Excellent Story! Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just ordered your book! Looking forward to the stories 😃
Thank You very much. Hope you enjoy it and the adventure. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Great story and interesting.
Thank you.
Ron
Glad you enjoyed it
Already found. They have just kept their mouths shut!! I don’t blame them! 👍👍👍
Thank you Sir!
I am glad you enjoy the videos, stay tuned for more. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Lost Dutchman of the Mogollon...
Why is all of the treasure lost in Arizona? Can't some be lost in my backyard!!
thanks again
My Pleasure! Cheers, Greg Hawk
Still out there ! 💰💰💰
I like the way you set up the map, and mark it for me. I will scan that one with my Eagletraun, on GoogleEarth. If I get a hit, then I can go to the area, and use the Gravitraun.
Another wagonload of Confederate gold wound up in Washington State, where I live. I'm looking for it. Hope to find it soon!
Good Luck!
What parts of Washington, above Oregon?
@@StevenHanover Yes, north of Oregon. A metal detector does not read on it. It's too deep for the nominal metal detector.
@@randomtangents5204 Thank you for the lead. I seem to remember, that Maurice Kildare, a Treasure Writer, from Flag Staff, did an article on this one. It was insufficient for me to sink my teeth into, way back in the Seventies. But, it did seem ta 'grab a'holt' of me at the time.....
Get an Omni RangeMaster from P.A.T.H. in /near Minden Nv.
The confederate treasury went missing in Wilkes County Georgia at the end of the war. It has never been found.
Well, I haven't got it...
How does a Treasury disappear??? Interesting.
The whole Treasury went missing or just the money it's self went missing???
The International Bankers must have snorted it all up.
I know this story. I lost my Dad, to la oro del diablo in 93.
Davey, sorry to hear of your loss. Many have lost their lives chasing "Devils Gold." I just updated my blog at www.desertroamerpress.com on this particular treasure story after reading one of the comments I received recently. There are several stories surrounding the lost gold coins but exactly how they got there has always been in question.
@@randomtangents5204 great story ! Yup, it ain't worth it. I still treasure hunt, I have very different reasons nowadays.
Brings back memories of the good days.
I do believe though, that some things are cursed. Those things, cost lives. A real look before ya leap kinda deal, cause there ain't no comin back from the dead.
Sometimes a thing is best, left alone.
That's what I learned, first hand.
Keep up the awesome work !
I have a lot of information on this place my dad has been searching for almost 30 years I may have a better location however things last time became a little paranormal and my dad passed away 7 months ago. I've also wanted to search for it but I never knew it was cursed. It makes since though because the last time my dad came across this he had gotten in a life threatening car accident after trying to come back home but he tattooed the storys to my head and theirs a lot to this then others may know
Good LUCK U ALL Happy Gold in Az..!!??!!
There is still plenty of gold in Arizona but most of the easy stuff has been found. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Arizona is fun.
And so much to see! Cheers, Greg Hawk
You should have told him , yes that's right where bigfoot attack you !!
Nobody hasn't found John Mosby's lost Confederate treasure here in Virginia either. Time to get my metal detector out and plane ticket to Flagstaff. Good story.
Glad you enjoyed the story. It is beautiful on the Mogollon Rim in the summer.
Haven't found the Beale treasure either and the know where that one supposedly is...
Mosby treasure is claimed to been found and that nobody spoke about the findings. I mean would you??? Nope.
Anyways 😅 He told me About This Same Story of The Gold Treasures in Different parts of ARIZONA 😲 I Did Believe him as all the other stuff Did check out a also got his spurs and Saddle Scabbard And 1938 Winchester 30 - 30 saddle Ring. A GREAT pick as I was Antique Hunting for 50 Yrs till 3 years ago as my health Went
Thanks Mike! That's one heck of a story and it would have been nice to have documented the stories that guy had to tell. That would have been a real gold mine in itself laced with the history of that era. Thanks Again! Greg Hawk
Mr. Hawk.... Im hoping you carry a side iron on your excursions. You never know what wildlife or wild humans you may come across in dem der hills.
To be honest, I don't pack any iron it's too much extra weight. Besides, I never have had problems with animals, it is probably more dangerous walking the streets of Chicago.
Cheers, Greg Hawk
@@randomtangents5204 for sure Chiraq is deadly just like any other major metropolitan city. Maybe you can put a can of mace on your key ring just for schidtz & giggles.. your stories are absolute internet gold. Thank you 🙏
If those 16 kegs were 50 gallon kegs that means that's over four billion dollars worth of gold today!
They were probably 50lb. nail kegs, but still a lot of money today. Glad you watched the video. Cheers, Greg Hawk
One five gallon bucket of gold weight about 800 pounds, I think a keg would hold about 5 gallon could be more , even so 16 x 800= 12,800 lbs of gold . this would of been quite the undertaking for 2 guys with one wagon in that terrain They could of ran off with it and no would know, I think the story is BS
They were supposedly nail kegs which would weigh 100 lbs. Being filled with gold coins would definitely be a lot more weight. I would say, if there is any turth to the story, that the kegs weren't filled to the brim. Still a lot of gold though. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Actually it was the payroll for Fort Apache not confederate but Cavalry. Lieutenant Summerhayes was leading the first resupply mission on "Crooks Trail" from Camp Verde to Fort Apache. The year was 1874 and a wagon was lost over the cliffs when two mules separated from a team of six leaving four mules and a wagon to plummet over a cliff several hundred feet and not retrievable. This is documented in a book by Margaret Summerhayes called "Vanishing Arizona". Seems Margaret was fond of the mules a was saddened to hear four had perished along with a wagon. Not knowing at the time what was in the wagon she found it to be the wagon that held her fine china and silverware she had brought from New England. The wagon also carried the $3,000 plus payroll in $20 Gold Pieces and Silver Coins it also had a cargo of Winchester Repeater rifles.
Thanks Bret, that is a very interesting story. Over time stories are told and facts change, thanks for sharing. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Bret, I started thinking about the story you told, and it may solve some of the issues with the story I told as some parts didn't quite make sense. The two Mexican hunters made sense if they stumbled onto the kegs of gold coins but where they actually came from was always a little unbelievable after I did some research. The old guy who told me the story said there was a monument at Chavas Pass marking the graves of the people from the wagon train that were killed by the Indians. The only monument there is one to a battle there where one U.S. Cavalryman lost his life. I never could find the story about the wagon train being attacked. I will have to find the book you mentioned to read the story. Thanks for the information and I will put this on my blog updating what I thought was true. Thanks Again, Greg Hawk
their horses probaly all died and they had to bury the gold==because they were mean to those horses back in those days
I was once working an old building in Missouri removing some bricks from an old chimney and I found a 1914 Indian head nickel and then I was able to retire
That is a Great Story! So, what made that nickel worth so much money that you could retire? Cheers, Greg Hawk
ANy update since 2020? I've been there numerous times. Crawfish out at Potato Lake. Interested if you hvae anything else on this treasure. I know better than to ask if you found it. ;-)
A month or so ago a fellow posted a story he read in a book about the lost gold treasure. If you scroll down, you will see what he wrote about it, or you can go to my website under the treasure blog and read it. His name is Bret da Costa and the story sounded like it was documented and sort of matches some of the story I was told. Enjoy the outdoors, the solitude, the quiet as they are all also treasures. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Sadly our stories will end and become obscure. Hopefully the new generation will rise and continue the lore of all our pasts.
Sadly, a lot of treasure stories that took place 100 to 150 years ago are now located in wilderness areas or communities have grown up around where the story took place. It is becoming harder and harder to get away and enjoy the adventure of some of these stories but that is progress. Cheers, Greg Hawk
He Also had a Broken up Wagon in a Garage I still could read US on the sides ! I had not enough room in my trailer to haul it. He said The Bones of horse's we're all Around This wagon ! Up on the Rim Damn Mogallon Rim if that's spelled Rite ? Also he had collected A VERY Large Matate And Manos too all over Arizona he had at one Time 175 of them that could be hauled out by Mules. He had 4 pack Saddles for the Mules in VERY good Shape . He had also Weapon's for sale most were Relics he'd found in the 30s 40s into the 50s and 60s a bit of The 1970s then he retired . When in the hospital Many of these Matates were Stolen from around his driveway! I Bought a Remington Rolling Block that was STILL Ok to use With BLK powder. It was Found in a Cave of a Very Very Old copper Turquoise Mine and had a Strong Color on the Wood from the Mine he says was Found in 1937 ! 1870s Gun the Apache we're using the Area And most of Arizona as their Domain.
Mike, That is a pretty impressive story and too bad we can't turn back time and go back and talk to that old feller. I bet he was full of interesting stories and the wagon and bones around it could have been useful information is the search for the lost barrels of coins. Thanks for sharing the story. Cheers, Greg Hawk
@@mikelang8020 do you remember any other info about wagon and contents. Did he find rifles and gold coins. Or in what area he was in when he found the wagon. Thanks
Interesting
Trever, I have an update on this story that my shed some more light on where the gold came from. Go to www.desertroamerpress.com/update-to-the-treasure-in-the-arizona-mountains and read the comment from one of the viewers. Thanks, Greg Hawk
What is the "Big Hole" that the Mexican gentleman tossed the remaining coins into? A google search only turns up Sunset Crater Volcano, which isn't really a "hole."
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner! The best I can say is that it was the big meteorite crater outside of Flagstaff. That is the only big hole I know about. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Did you look around immigrant spring? Ima go look soon haha -
A lot of people would make up stories about gold or treasure being cursed so people wouldn't go looking for it or to encourage people to leave it if they happened to find it.
There are a lot of made up stories that say there is a curse on certain treasures. It makes for a more intriguing story that one may wish to read about and makes good movies! I just told this story as it was told to me and hopefully you enjoyed it. Cheers, Greg Hawk
@@randomtangents5204 It was a great story, I enjoyed listening to it. The thought I had while listen was, I wonder if the guys actually ended up keeping the treasure but never told anyone and told the story about the curse to cover for it or something? I guess we'll never know for sure. Anyway, great story. I've enjoyed watching the videos on your channel. Keep up the good work.
Man Arizona has more buried treasure in the mountains then dirt …he’ll everyone out there should be rich by now
Well, there are a lot of stories for sure and some treasures have been found. If you did find a treasure, would you tell the world or would you keep it a secret and use it only when you needed it? I know one treasure hunter who found a cache of gold bars and only goes back once a year to pull out a couple to supplement his social security income.
No one knows the difference and he lives comfortably. Thanks for your interest in the videos. Cheers, Greg Hawk
There seems to be all kinds of lost gold in Arizona
I believe Arizona has more treasure stories then any other state and there is quite a variety of them.
We already found the coins amigo
Miller is directly related to Jesse.
Hey kinfolk lol. We may be related . People have asked me a long time am I related to Tony hawk 😂🤣😂🤣
I grew up in strawberry wow I didn't know there was any gold out there
I just posted another story on my blog at www.desertroamerpress.com/adventure_blog sent to me by one of the viewers. It tells of lost gold, rifles and china from a wagon that went over a ledge. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Soo have you guys found anything? Whats an update on your searching. The Validity of the Gold Coins being there is what I really question bc if you truthfully think about it even if your talking about a lot of gold coins being there in existence you'd think that if they are gone you'd think that some were left over due to the size of the kegs and loseing some over the rim of the kegs when they were poured out to touch and look at. I'm just really in denial if they existed at all bc of finding none over the years. Even if you found one GD you could make something of it but nobody has found none since the story was told. Soo the genius of this story is the Kegs are buried and if they can be found. Do you think he got his directions mixed up with where he was when he found the Kegs of Gold? I just think they are in a different place from where he stated he was at.
I'm still stuck in the thought how these men buried these Kegs and got them together up these rocky inclines or got through an area without destroying one of the kegs due to going over rocks repeatidly just to find a burial site for them. Where is the natural thought of these men needing to bury Kegs full of money soo their had to be a reason for purposely leaveing them there for whatever their reasoning behind it was to do something specifically with them in such a moutainous region.
Brian, there is an update to this story that a viewer shared with me. It tells of a similar story which may carry more weight than this one. Check it out on my treasure blog at: www.desertroamerpress.com/adventure_blog on the Update to this story. Cheers, Greg Hawk
man I miss living in strawberry and going up to Woods Canyon
Yes, it is beautiful country and I miss being there also. Cheers, Greg Hawk
I found I barrel ring with my metal detector close to that area 😮
One never knows what one may find. It is a large area to search but there is not a lot of trash that you have to worry about picking up with your metal detector. Good Hunting! Cheers, Greg Hawk
That must have been some expensive whiskey. Trading a gold coin for a bottle
Since gold was illegal to own, they probably figured it was worth at least a bottle of whiskey since they had a pocket full of them. Thanks for watching! Cheers, Greg Hawk
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OMG 😱 I was on a Trip in Arizona and I was in Town of Payson at a Antique shop to buy Stuff and got talking to a Older Man just hanging out at this store he says I've got Animal Skins Trap and A Wagon I want to sell ! It was 1984 the man's Name was Ken Kiggins,he had been a Federal Animal Hunter. He was Attacked by a Black Bear on the Ridge Area and Killed It, the Critter' was positive for Rabies So he had to go through the Treatments for this only known Bear Attack on a Human ! As I looked at the proof he had a Large Binder of his Attack on Newspaper clipping of it. Damn He also had a Pile of traps Marked Property of the Federal Government.
No that's the gold from the canyon Diablo robbery they joined the wagon train to Prescott that was attacked by the Apache raiders
Thanks, I will have to research that robbery. This story was told to me by an old guy in Strawberry, AZ and I searched hi and low for it. Beautiful country! Cheers, Greg Hawk
was the story from B.W. or W.W. from True West mag?
The old guy who I mention in my book told me the story as told to him by a writer of a treasure hunting magazine. He didn't say what magazine but it must have been popular in the 1970's is my best guess. I was contacted by a fellow about this story and he tied in a story of a woman who had a covered wagon and was robbed. In her wagon
was her valubles and some gold coins. He sent me the published story and it seemed to be up in that same part of the country. Maybe the Mexican fellas found a small stache from that robbery? Anyway, I posted it on my website under one of my blogs at the time. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Great story and not a disbeliever but if 16 barrels of gold were transported and hidden buy two people that would have to been a pretty monumentous feet right !
A couple of months ago a fellow sent a response to this story and he mentioned a book that told of a story about a woman having a wagon with her belongings, including china and gold coins, getting away up on the rim and crashing down into a canyon. The story seemed to fit into the area I have searched, and it made me wonder. Treasure stories over the years grow by leaps and bounds and the true story and the values lost seem to grow exponentially. If I can find the story sent to me, I will publish it on my treasure blog at desertroamerpress.com Cheers, Greg Hawk
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Would be awesome to actually find a treasure 👍
Keep up the good work 👍👍👍
So one would think the 20 dollar gold piece would show up somewhere if a store owner got it for trade of whiskey.
At the time he traded the $20 gold piece in for the bottle of whiskey, gold was illegal to own. I imagine the guy who sold him the whiskey kept it quiet and who knows what he did with it. There was probably a black market going on trading gold for other things. As I understand it the US government gave people $20/ounce for their gold when they turned it in and then passed into law the gold standard which said gold would back the US dollar at $35/oz. People who had turned in their gold to the government lost $15/oz and the government won. This stayed that way until President Nixon repealed the law in, I believe 1971. From there the US dollar was never backed by gold anymore and you can see how worthless our fiat currency has become. Gold is now hovering around $2,400/oz. Hang on to your gold! Cheers, Greg Hawk
@@randomtangents5204 yeah but thats all over, those pieces would be out in collections as others are you see not just myth and legends
Old News Bud ! Treasure was found and Sold to a Team in Germany for a Very Large Sum Of CASH! True Story
Any links to story? Cant find anything
Those coins would be redeemed somewhere and the dated year would of been turned over to their findings. I really don't think they were in the right area I think it was in a different area.
I'm calling bullshit on this one ..
I bet a man named Bill Carson had something to do with that wagon load of confederate gold
I just posted on my blog: www.desertroamerpress.com/adventure_blog
a story that may tie into this story about a wagon with gold, guns and china that went amiss up on the Mogollon Rim. A viewer had read a similar story in a book he listed and may well be worth reading.
Cheers, Greg Hawk
Unique thing to me is that if this was the Confederate Army that buried those coins, then the coins are of gold that most likely was mined in North Carolina and Georgia. Both states were the prime producers of gold for the South at that time. The coins probably include coins minted by the only private mint that ever existed in the US, that being the Christopher Bechtlor coins. He was an immigrant from Baden, Germany and he brought with him his knowledge of goldsmith and metal working. So much gold was being found around the area that he decided to make gold coins for people who wanted to have a reliable exchange of value for their gold. He minted coins with set values that could be exchanged in lieu of weighing out and bartering. The US government came in and set up their own mints in Charlotte, NC and Dahlonega, Georgia thus putting an end to the Bechtlor coins. Surely, this confederate treasure would contain some of these rare and valuable coins. They would be worth a fortune today.
I was told the story by an old guy who lived in Strawberry, AZ about the two Mexican hunters coming across the buried nail kegs of gold coins. The old guy passed away 20 years ago and I never asked him how he connected the story together with that of a wagon coming west to California with kegs of gold coins. The story goes that the confederate treasure was buried in kegs along railroad tracks at the end of the war. It is an anomaly, but yes the coins would be worth a fortune today.
Would have been union minted in the west
Only one thing baffles me. Why only take 20 coins? Why not take as much as you can carry? Doesn't make sense to me. Also wouldn't there be records of a missing confederate shipment of gold? Just based on those two things I think he was just telling a good story.
Rich, old John, who I mention in my book, lived in Strawberry and told me the story as he knew the writer who was friends with the Mexican fellow. I possibly believe they found some nail kegs full of coins but I don't know how old John came up with the idea it was part of the Confederate Treasure. Gold at that time was illegal to own and I would suspect the Mexicans didn't want to get caught with very much of it on them. They could aways come back for more. That's my take on the story. Cheers, Greg Hawk
@@randomtangents5204 I understand.
I love the story.
do u know how much they weight?
If I supply a solution to your treasure hunt will you split it with me if it works
If you supply a solution to the treasure puzzle I would be glad to split it with you if it works. If you know the key to it why don't you just go after it yourself? Just Asking? Cheers, Greg Hawk
You can always contact me at greghawklives@gmail.com
If the hoard is ever found, does the finder have legal right to the treasure?
That all depends on whose property it is on and where the treasure came from. Some of the big treasures that were found at sea spent years in the courts deciding who go what. I will be posting on my website soon about a $100 bill I hid close to Pine Springs and don't think it was found last year. You would need a metal detector to find it as it is in a mason jar with a metal lid. Stay Tuned! Cheers, Greg Hawk
Don’t tell
Sounds like the gold is bad luck
Maybe Gold is not the Bad Luck but the Greed for it is. It's funny how it affects people. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Sergio Leon wrote this story
I’m getting a metal detector
My stomping grounds
Beautiful place to hike and get away from the maddening crowd. Cheers, Greg Hawk
I don't see how a wagon and team of horses can even get rear the Rim area without a well taken path. I don't see any truth in this story.
Do a little research as there used to be a stage route from Santa Fe to Prescott and they were both territorial capitals prior to statehood. There is a lot of history around Prescott if interested and one of my next videos will be on the Walnut Grove Dam Disaster of 1890 and the lost safe of gold. Cheers, Greg Hawk
Pirate don't save or hide gold they spend it.
Lmao the reason it will never be found is because it never existed gold fever is supported now by a wise story / tale
I have researched hundreds of treasure stories over the years, and some have a small thread of truth to them, and many are stories written for money and entirely fabricated. After a lot of research on this story I always asked myself how the confederate treasure part of it entered into the story? Another person who watched this video gave me some insight as to what possibly might have happened that started the story. For more on this check out the update to this story on my website at: www.desertroamerpress.com/update-to-the-treasure-in-the-arizona-mountains
Cheers, Greg Hawk