Atlanta Hawks: One week to the 2024 NBA Draft, Zaccharie Risacher, Donovan Clingan (Part 2)
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Brad Rowland (@BTRowland) hosts episode No. 1743 of the Locked on Hawks podcast, and he is joined by Ricky O'Donnell (@SBN_Ricky, SB Nation) for Part 2 of a 2-part discussion. The conversation focuses on the Atlanta Hawks and the 2024 NBA Draft with one week to go before the big day, including No. 1 pick options, Ricky's favorite players in the class, and much more.
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If hawks pass on Sarr it’s guaranteed that he reaches his ceiling because Atlanta .
CP3, David Thompson, Giannis, Luka, Bill Russell, Pau Gasol. This incompetence is a generational talent
I get the frustration. But it's not like the hawks were the only ones who passed on most of those players
Who the hell in 2024 is feeling any ways about Atlanta missing out on Pau or Bill Russell smfh? Lets hope for the best - i know theres a likelihood we can overthink the pick and goof up the pick but to act like we haven’t been able to draft quality HOF worthy talent with our 1st rounders is disingenuous
@@mef2theman well when was the last time Atlanta drafted someone HOF or all star worthy? Outside Al and Trae, the hawks haven’t drafted great. If the hawks can’t get the big name free agent, you hope they would be able to draft well.
@@ajevans1422 shit sad
Great guest.
Excellent 2 parts . All the complicated aspects which need consideration. After all this research I come back to the dogmatic Sarr supporters. BUT I have now a good rationale for picking Sarr, and then trading down.. I want 2 picks, one for this year and one for next year.
Coming up right now 👍
Can someone explain why edey isnt in the top 5 on draft projections im confused.
I’ve convinced myself I like Clingan over Sarr but I’ve been flip flopping so much with this pick 😂, I don’t know what it is I just feel like he will end up being a better/more helpful player. I don’t think I would take Clingan no.1 overall though, but if we can trade down and get a good deal I would trade down but only if I was sure he would be available, if there’s doubt he wouldn’t be available then I would keep 1st pick... ahh maybe I would take him 1st overall? I don’t know... I reckon he’ll be good
Great show Brad!
Thanks!
I totally agree with this pundits assessment. Sarr is the better choice at #1 and Trey will elevate Sarr's game. Most importantly you took "O" with the 6th pick, sohe should be starting and him being undersized Sarr helps with that defensively and potentially rebound wise as well as great upsize.
Clingen is NOT very athletic and slow, which does not suit the Hawks well. They are much more athletic with a front court of Sarr, O and JJ.
Hawks will make a Big mistake if they go with Clingen unless they get draft picks and trade down.
I'm going to bet on Atlanta trading down IF they this is done with Spurs to claw back a pick, and pick up an additional round 1 pick
I don’t like hearing this guy talk about the hawks smh let’s talk to someone who actually cares about the opinion they are giving about our team.
Atlanta can trade down and if Clingon is gone, there is Eady
Hey Brad, if you were to project which prospect would likely project as the BPA after a year or two under their belt - could you see Clingan over Sarr? Personally feel like Sarr has better upside due to his ability to switch onto multiple positions as well as his ability run on both ends and pick and pop. Wouldn't be the end of the world with the other dude but definitely feel like he could possibly be a greater liability on both ends of the court than Sarr. Thanks for your great coverage and work as always!
I do think Sarr has higher ultimate upside and I've had him No. 1 on my overall (non-hawks specific) board for a while. I don't think the gap is big though.
Clingan actually more athletic than Gobert if you look at combine numbers. Bigger as well
I think he just means game speed and how many minutes gobert plays. I do feel clingan can be better. His jumping is really the only think i worry about. He is my number 1 in this draft
Gobert's durability and ground coverage and motor are pretty legendary for a center. But Clingan is obviously MASSIVE and I tend to agree he's an underrated athlete overall.
The Hawks are now being trolled by Wizards fans. Think about that. That is rock=bottom stuff.
i love you brad. having said that, you've had better guests. this dude ain't it.
We have Mo guaye why would we need sarr?
They're saying they can't even get him to come in for an interview or a workout. He clearly doesn't want to play for the Hawks and I don't blame him.
He doesn't want to play for the hawks because he's 7'1 and wants to play sf. Dude is soft. I'd rather have edey but everyone overlooking him
You love CC so much you're that myopic 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
about what exactly? you’re just saying nonsense
@@LockedOnHawks you aren't reporting SARR agent is attempting to sabotage this pick 😂😂😂😂 y, because he doesn't start with Atlanta thereby limiting his agents earnings, that part
Alex Sarr = Mo Bamba 2.0
Nall Sarr defense is great.. He gone be a beast with Trae..
@@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207 Bamba's defense was hyped too. And then he entered the NBA.
@@sirian4519 sometimes it’s fit, and don’t you give that guy the chance because your invested.
Bol bol can play but you really think they gone give him the keys when they have 150 per year invested in KD, Book, Beal??
Tape don’t lie.
Sarr is Ben Simmons with a shot. Not the body type but that’s how he plays defense on the perimeter he’s a ball hawk and you can’t get past him. He’s actually a wing, he’s only listed as a 4 or 5 because of height.
@@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207 I meant Mo Bamba, the hyped lottery pick, who was drafted right after Trae. Not Bol Bol, the second round pick. I wouldn't mind drafting Sarr with the 44th pick like Bol Bol.
Anyway, I don't agree with any of this. In fact, just listen to Brad and his guests. They don't have a single legitimate reason as to why Sarr is this intriguing project besides "he has the physical tools". Not one. It's all just a theoretical scenario where if everything clicks perfectly, he might become a good player. That's not what a no.1 overall pick is, unless you want a Kwame Brown.
Ben Simmons with a shot? What shot? He shot below 30% from three in Australia. On low volume. His release is slow and inconsistent. His catch and shoot threes are among the ugliest I've seen. So, what shot?
Hi Brad, I appreciate the great work that you do pertaining to the Hawks. Brad, something just feels off to me regarding the Hawk and this draft process. Assuming all these rumors are true, why don't these players want to come to Atlanta? I heard that Pascal Siakim did not want to be traded to Atlanta because he would not re-sign with them. Brad, assuming this is true, you now have players willing to play for the Wizards than the Hawks, really? That is rock-bottom to me. Could it be that players don't want to play with Trae because he is perceived as a ball hog. There seems to be some kind of negative cloud hanging over the Hawks. Keep up the great work.
I think it’s the organization.
If you the number one pick and they interview four other guys before you and double back and interview two of those guys again. Shit you’ll be like fuck em too..
Sarr was in Atlanta and didn’t get a look see off rip that’s just foolish..
And I’m glad we didn’t get Siakim he’s not a top player bro.
I’ll rather have Kat and I don’t dig KAT like that..
It’s funny most of the casuals think real life is like 2k. Just like these dumb ass announcers and media pundits were like Luka and Kyrie best duo ever??? Best backcourt ever I’m like ninja please these guys are both turnstiles defensively wtf..
@@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207 I hear you loud and and clear. I happen to think it is also beyond the organization. I do agree with you regarding Siakim. I never wanted him in Atlanta. I was using him as a reference for players who I did not believe wanted to play in Atlanta.
@@Dave-nm8uf in response maybe they don’t think the organization hitting on 💩..
Or also it’s all cap Indy said eff it we have some nice young pieces, we have a good coach, hell what they have to lose?
But realistically they’re not a championship team.
I’m not scared of them.
In my eyes it’s more about coaching and then having the players.
Quin doesn’t coach xs&os on defense.
He doesn’t. Even without Trae what some of the casuals say is the worse defender ever the Hawks defense was atrocious.
So that ends that debate and Trae was gone almost 15 games. The offense was hot garbage way too many 98 point games struggling to get off shots.
But back on the original topic outside of straw bring demonized by the nba I just don’t like this regime, nor any Atlanta regime sense Ted sold the Hawks to Time Warner or whoever had them first.
If I’m the Hawks all they gotta do is not fumble the 🏀.
They need a system .
Either it’s Trae and shooters and a dominant big, or it’s strictly ball movement with Trae off screens.
I prefer the former because I’ve seen it work and that’s our best players style. You don’t take the ball out the best pg in the leagues hands.
@@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207 This organization has gone as far it as it will with Trae Young. As long as the ball stays in his hands this is the result I expect from the Hawks.
@@Dave-nm8uf so if what you say is true last year the Mavs weren’t even a playin team with Luka and Kyrie. Yall funny so Trae washed up but average 26 & 11 last year google those numbers and see how many players have done that in nba history ? Bet that return comes down to about three players if that.
Currently Trae has never had what he needs a REAL ALLSTAR IN THE FRONT COURT!!!!
Even the late great Kobe only had success when he had a BIG WHO WAS AN ALLSTAR. Same as WADE HE HAD SHAQ AND LEBRON AND BOSH.
Steph had Bogut and Draymond and KD ..
So if you build a team you have to build it the right way. Draft or trade for a real big who can score and defend in the paint.
I was made in Atlanta, raised in Atlanta and stayed in Atlanta from when we traded Nique for bs Danny Manning and Deon because of the Tokars scandal Atlanta
The Hawks are bad and it’s the coaching and front office, because they have players.
If Thibs had this team they’ll be top three because it’s way more better players here than NY..
Brad, why are you doing a Landry Feilds impersonation and holding your opinion until draft day? Rudy is a good shot blocker and rim protector not a good defender per say. He cant stop many centers 1on1
I’ve given plenty of opinions on every show the whole cycle, but it’s not a cut and dry situation.
Also… You don’t think Rudy Gobert is a “good defender”? Lol
@LockedOnHawks Correct, me nor half the NBA including Marcus Smart and Shaq. Good help defender and situation defender. 1.He doesn't show on pick and rolls, Trae lives off bigs that don't show. 2. Not a good 1on1 defender against anyone bigger, stronger, or faster (almost half the centers). He's a walking mismatch. I'm surprised that you think he is. He's the DJ. Murray of Centers.
yeah this is very silly, he’s arguably the best defender in the entire league, a 4x DPOY, and a likely hall of famer because of his defense… how that becomes “not a good defender” is beyond me
No, HOF because of Blocks not overall def... 1 stop wins the game you have to stop Joker with no help. Do you choose Rudy or let's say Mitchell Robinson? Did steals make ai a great defender? You're a defense guy look how Trae Young abused MN because rudy refused to show. Look at the tapes of him gaurding centers when he's not in help position. They fold him up like a chair.