Should You Join The Exodus To Cara?
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- What is the future of social media for artists? Should you leave Instagram? Jake Parker, Lee White, and Will Terry address the current situation with Meta’s AI and how to move forward.
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The thing you guys are forgetting is that all of these apps really started out niche, and then became the “city”. Instagram was really for Photographers in the beginning, and then artists, and then it went mainstream. Facebook was for college students, went mainstream, and now it’s in its death stages as it’s now the place for grandma to post pictures of her grandkids and her favorite recipes. Cara very well could start out niche, and expand to be the city. You just really don’t know.
Cara has 800k users now, it's crazy. Supposely it went from 40k to 800k in less than a week with the Meta thing.
which at the same time means everyone will have a harder time to get seen. a natural growth would be more benefiting but at the end it has to be seen how it turns out.
The three of you charge a fee for education. Human beings must pay for their professional training. I paid for my education.
Then, along comes Meta, with their infant AI, and says "you get to have the privilege of training our AI child for free. That is right. We are taking it with or without your permission and offering no compensation for what we are taking... Thanks."
Will Terry might be numb to other individuals who copy his work as a learning tool. But that is a far cry away from an algorithm that will be my competition in a very short period of time. Honestly it is not the AI that bothers me, It is companies like Meta that abuse the trust of the Artists on their platform. The trust is gone.
I can grow without Instagram, Cara provides a community that I can trust for feedback... hopefully you find your way there as well. I will be looking for you.
First of all, love to listen to you guys every time.
Second: I made an account on Cara and am very happy people are moving, I didn’t delete my insta.. there is no point because they have already stolen everything that is on your account before this date. There is no ‘undo’ button on that. Now, I would LOVE to punish Meta for not considering the artist’s perspective. I love that they lost a million people. I doubt they care though. I hope Cara makes it as a new platform. I never try new social media, but I do believe the only way to build a large following is to jump in at the beginning. Next time, let’s hear your thoughts about Adobe’s announcement that all your art is theirs now. 😮
Oh, one more important note. You said that if all the artists go to Cara they would only have other artists as an audience. I think that editors and art directors would definitely start looking there if it becomes the big thing. The portfolio feature is a really nice addition to facilitate that also. Thanks! 😊
I’d like to add that at my local SCBWI chapter meetings, ADs and Editors express that they find Instagram less and less of an asset. They are inundated with queries, and rely heavily on Agents to vet projects that come their way.
So no, they’re not using Instagram like they used to. That’s a fallacy left over from 5 years ago. Being “discovered” on Instagram is less likely than getting struck by lightning. The continual effort put into posting, hoping to develop a community with bots, and with no reach in the end, doesn’t make Instagram worth it in the face of industry-insider platforms like Cara. It’s inertia and fear that keep us thinking it’s actually still worth posting there. But intransigence isn’t going to save your illustration career let alone get one established.
@@CoreyartusImagery I'd argue a little bit here. Art directors aren't using insta as much, but all that means is that the industry has shifted. And it has shifted away from traditional publishing overall. Huge numbers of artists chasing small numbers of projects will always lead to failure for most. That is why insta is still good for building self made projects and getting a lot of eyes on it. now, the artist will have to pay to get that placement in insta, but if you do the numbers can still be massive. facebook is similar in that way too. i don't even post on facebook personally any more, but for self initiated business it still works great.
I'll also add that i think the time of posting anywhere for free and then getting a job from that is generally over. THat includes over on cara or anywhere else. If you want to get work, you will need to pay for that placement in terms of advertising that is directed at a particular audience.
🤖 The thing with AI I've never seen anyone commenting is that if you are using AI for your book cover, comic book, or whatever, who would be able to tell if you are not using AI for the content of your product as well? If I see a book with a cover generated by AI, I automatically assume the author must have used AI to create the story too. If no moral value stops someone from using AI for something in their project, why not use it to do all the rest?
Well !maybe the author just the aesthetics of ai,ai visuals can ook.good if done right...
@@gleefully4965 you’re missing the point.
Lee, at 6:03 you said that your market is not artists. But I assume that commissioners are your market, and if Cara is now where most of the artists are going then that's where the commissioners will go.
Cara is for visual artists, so that includes photographers.
Jingna, who founded Cara, is a photographer and has commented on how pleased she is seeing other photographers signing up.
I get your point, but i don't get commissions from artists, so my audience wont be on cara (at least for now)
@@leewhite134 Thanks Lee.
Maybe it's my ignorance of the industry, but wouldn't art directors etc go to the platforms where the artists are found? I thought they looked through Instagram etc for new talent. But if the artists are leaving Instagram for Cara then wouldn't the art directors and other commissioners follow?
@@adamthorntonillustration9281 it makes logical sense thinking the way you are, but there is a dynamic you are missing. Art directors and editors don't have the problem of being able to find artists, they have the opposite problem. They have so many at their disposal that they need to have a way to make the field smaller. That is where agents come in. Agents can say "these 5 artists fit your needs" and makes their decision making so much easier. The other problem is investing in someone they find online can result in disaster. what if that person is using ai to get to the finish, what if they can't deliver on time and quality, are they even showing their own work? so an agent also avoids all those problems.
@@leewhite134 Oh, that makes perfect sense. I think I need to do a binge watch of some of the 3PP podcasts to get better clued up about all this stuff!
TBH, I was thinking that I could make it without an agent, but it sounds like that's less likely.
Thanks very much indeed for taking the time to write that Lee.
Very best wishes from the UK!
Cara is meant to be a replacement for Artstation/DeviantArt, not IG/Twitter, though. People seem to be confusing this.
Exactly. Cara was always meant as a place to host your portfolio and connect with other artists. Maybe now that there are a lot more people there, art directors and companies might look at it as a place to recruit people as well. But if you're looking to reach a general audience, its not going to help you. People really want a twitter/IG replacement, but this ain't it.
Whatever the intention was for Cara in the beginning, it is definitely now a replacement for IG.
If we have the opportunity to take our artwork (on which we have put our heart and soul into improving) out of Walmart and putting it in a globally known and ethically run art gallery, wouldn't we do that? Actually, I can understand why you would want to stay in Walmart, for the assumed reach. But eventually the all-important commissioners are going to breathe a sigh of relief that they don't have to sift through endless adverts and dance videos and just go straight to Cara, where the real artists are found.
@@adamthorntonillustration9281need regular users to be a replacement for Instagram. Cara only has artists.
I love Lee's take on Cara. "When are we supposed to draw and paint, this is ridiculous. Do the work. Make a plan. Stop chasing." 100 my bruddah.
I know you guys are just having a conversation, but you’re contradicting yourselves frequently. One minute you’re talking about how Cara is just an island, there next you’re talking about the most valuable community you’ve experienced was a small, close knit group. Then you’re talking about how terrible it is that artists are just jumping into the next new thing, and then saying that there were once big name illustrators that waited too long to get into social media and they suffered for it…So doesn’t that mean we should be quick to adopt new platforms in case it pops? I understand that the big answer to if an artist should go to Cara is, “It depends”, but I feel like you guys are being unnecessarily hard on Cara. As you also pointed out, nothing lasts forever, and you’re acting like Instagram, X, and UA-cam will last forever. Something will eventually cause each of them to shut down, and the point is we don’t know what it will be.
Be an early adopter, try new things, if it doesn’t work then move on. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket no matter where it is.
Sorry for the confusion, but our viewpoints ARE contradictory! lol! There is no clear answer and i guess we are bouncing around and trying to figure it out. Nothing is black and white and there are pros and cons to each for sure. that said, i went ahead and made an account with cara of course. no harm in giving it a go! : )
Yes. As the podcasts go on, the contradictions keep adding up episode to episode. It’s frustrating. This particular episode was steeped in opinions about things they didn’t know anything about: Cara and Character Design. And really dismissive of AI, which is an incredibly privileged position to take that no one trying to break into the industry can have. It’s really REALLY frustrating to listen to sometimes...
@@CoreyartusImagery wait, other people are saying we are pro AI, but you are saying we are dismissive of AI! which one is it?! lol. like i said above There is no clear answer and we are bouncing around and trying to figure it out. Nothing is black and white and there are pros and cons to each for sure. Things are grey and im sorry if you have a need for us to list it in black and white. But the fact is, it's not black and white. Its not just a pro, and it's not just a con.
@@leewhite134 He probably means you are dismissive of the idea that AI is a threat.
@@VirideSoryuLangley which is saying we are saying it is a threat? that is not what we are saying. i don't know why some people can't understand that there are some good things about it, and there are some bad things about it.
How sad to hear such poorly thought-out opinions from people I respect so much... 3 points:
1- I had Instagram when there were only artists, especially photographers publishing their portfolio. Over time it evolved into those customers coming in and using the platform. Saying that Cara is only for artists, I don't know, seems recklessly hasty to me.
2-In times of the elimination of your copyright rights, as artists we should support independent projects, whether they are successful or not, it is a political question. Also, thinking that you pay for Intagram with your work is stupid, if that were the case you wouldn't have to pay for advertising or swallow advertising in your feed.
3- There are more ways to survive as a project today than by selling yourself to the devil, there are subscriptions, you can make a membership, and even respectful advertising. To think otherwise is to have lost hope and put your ass in a dystopian future that we are all feeding with the attitude that we can't do anything.... Every revolution has always started in Art, and to be a slave to the one who consumes your art is to be a craftsman.
i appreciate your feedback, but i'd argue against it being poorly thought-out.
1. Just because one site evolved from being a portfolio based site is really no guarantee that others will. The main reason being that regular people (customers) don't have the need to switch over. They aren't concerned about what artists are concerned about, so the drive isn't there (yet). But, there is no cost for cara, so join away. i made a profile and posted there. but i won't be deleting instagram just yet for it. If it pans out and does change as you suggest, then we revisit it at that time.
2. On the podcast and professionally we have devoted a massive amount of support for independent projects. In fact, that is all we do at this point. not sure what you mean that we pay for insta with our work.
3. all of us on the podcast make our living exactly from the things you mentioned. In fact, not only do we do the podcast for free, we actually LOSE money on every episode in order to make it. And we have done that over 200 times! We believe in the future of art and we are betting it all on that. We support the artists not only with words, but with actions. I mean we built an entire school to help artists while trying to keep it extremely affordable (especially compared to art schools). i don't see art as a dystopian future for illustrators. In fact, i see it as the opposite. I see artists with a bright future building cool and interesting projects.
So, before you exclaim in the comments sections about how poorly thought our our words are, look at our actions. We back it with everything we do.
- Lee
@AlbertoDuranGarciaIllustration Very well said.
Continuing with the analogy of Instagram as a city, an artist leaving for Cara might be like the person who leaves the crime-ridden city because he's tired of his store being robbed all the time.
Good luck to the Cara folks, hope it works out. I'm not doing social media anymore, It wasn't doing me any good and I like having my own website where I have control. I am not surprised about the Instagram thing, any service where you are on a 'cloud' service is subject to these things, they make money off of selling people's data, AI art is making them lots of money...or will when they start charging for it / selling the data to other companies.
I feel like Lee and Will missed the point in the beginning as to why artists are so against AI scraping their artwork. It’s the infringement of copyright, lack of compensation and subsequent unemployment, as corporations race to find ways to eliminate job opportunities.
I think it is misleading from the real problem to just say, don't care if my data gets scraped, I am here to create new things and AI won't be able to replace that. True, AI will not replace you, the AI will only be as potent as the data set it trained on and only as good as prompt is written or how far the creativity of the prompt writer goes. You can always be more creative, absolutely. But it is misleading from the problem that the AI machine is learning on copyrighted data without consent or compensation and is then selling the use of the prompt. The data is not a resource found in nature (if you want to compare it to coal mining e.g.) that is available for free, then turned into money. Every user is creating the data using their time and resources and has the right to protect the work under copyright law. To be more clear, the discussion should not really be about whether or not artist can compete with the results the AI is making, it should be about can the artist compete with his work being stolen by a multibillion company which wants to make more money, which found a way to avoid direct copyright lawsuits by making every user agree by default. The company is the evil, not the AI. AI was never the problem, the company behind the AI is the problem. You can see it absolutely clear in the way Meta created the routine to opt-out difficult enough for most people to not want to go through the trouble, or just simply fail the routine. If Meta wants the users so badly to not opt out it is because the users data is so valuable, and the user is such a cheep resource. Would data be provided by a company, that company would never ever give it to Meta for free, they would license it and make Meta pay big times. Artist, again, are asked to just give their pictures out for free in exchange for exposure or whatever Instagram seems to give back in exchange (and I don't think it does it in appropriate amounts.)
I really appreciate what you’re doing! These discussions are really helpful. 🙂🙏
I made a cara account to give it a try and I'm already feeling discourage by it. I had another artist ruin it for me already. On the 2nd day of opening my account, I had my first follow(I posted two pictures of my work) I felt excited and started to follow this artist back so that we could support each other. I liked (or hearted) one of his pieces on his profile which were in fact quite good. Thinking that cara would be a place for the community for artists, I truly was feeling hopeful. Not long after that, they unfollowed me. So you are still going to get the same type of people that are on any social media platforms Where they follow a bunch of people to notice their work and then unfollow. So they never liked your artwork to begin with😑 very annoyed and disheartened. Hopefully it works out for others ❤ I'll start connecting locally.
Thank you for the episode! It was interesting to listen to, as always. It's kind of magical when you read the title, think that you have a simple strong opinion about it, and then the episode gives such depth to the topic that you never expected. I love that about your podcast!
On the topic of character design, it depends which industry you’re gearing it to. Games need the skill level of someone like TBChoi. If you’re looking at animation it further branches into TV and feature. TV character design requires precise on model skills, strong draftsmanship, turnarounds and special poses. Feature animation seems to take into consideration pleasing and aesthetic shape design on top of the other aspects. There’s also character designers for the blue sky stage, people like Fabien Mense come to mind. Either way solid draftsmanship required for all. From what I understand you need to have a good network to get those jobs, usually that means meeting people face to face at events if you’re a beginner, i.e being in LA. If you’re Nicholas Cole, you can be a freelancer no problem-everyone already knows you pretty much and your skill level speaks for itself.
I'm going through your visual storytelling class right now, Will, and its great! Thanks for adding that to SVS. Also Lee's Visual storytelling class was fantastic! I just finished it.
thank you!! : )
Etchr's hotpress watercolor notebooks are hands down the best watercolor paper I've painted on. I wish they made sheets!
44:56 Will, there are freelance character designers that are making a nice buck! Just because you don't know them that doesn't mean they don't exist. It is hard, it is a way senior position and competitive as hell. But they are there! Nicholas Kole, for one.
Wow, Nicholas Kole's work is breathtaking! But I do think it reinforces the point Will made: you really, really have to develop those skills to a professional excellence level to be able to do something like Kole and get hired for it, he is clearly on the Loish's league in regards to both technical and conceptual proficiency and has carved his own expertise field.
@@anachapastudio And what’s the difference between the depth of skills they’re advocating for to do Children’s illustration and the depth of skill one has to have as a character designer? That one is somehow more “viable” than the other? Seems they’re privileging and industry they know more about than the one they don’t…
Great conversation! I really liked the part about idea generation. This has always been the most interesting and mysterious part of the creative process for me. There are some really cool psychology techniques that can help expand your creative imagination and help come up with new ideas. The psychologist Carl Jung has a technique called Active Imagination that can be adapted by illustrators. I've used it as a starting point when I feel a creative block and it really helps get the ideas flowing.
Also, the Froud book is Lady Cottington’s PRESSED Fairy Book. That stuff was everywhere back in the mid 90’s, it seemed.
i loved that book!
Blogging. It’s the past AND the future!
I’m going to use Cara as a nice looking portfolio space to point folks to, and that’s really about it. The chasing of likes and such is so unappealing at this point!
I think you're right, Lee. Create the platform that only sells to AI. Someones going to start the Spotify style opt in art service where artists lease their work for fractions of cents to use train. Might as well be you.
Hey Lee! I am in Chicago during that time if you want to get some food or coffee and hang out! 🎉
15:45 YEEEEEAAAHH EATPOO FORUM!! Those were the mean streets where I got my start. ApeDogs never die.
I’m in Chicago! Will there be a meetup?
Jake is growing an Eric beard.
I signed up on Cara just to stake my name - in case it does take off. Like you, I'm not sure I will spend much time on it, unless it does.
The Mando comment at the end is HILARIOUS.
However I disagree with how fans find interest without giving the full appreciation of the point of the characters.
The backstory of certain Star Wars characters come from warrior culture and religions which the series and books have been exploring.
Another great episode! I think a good path for illustrators to get practice illustrating stories is to get hired directly from authors who do self-publishing. That is what I do. I pretty much streamlined my process and now do 2-3 book projects at once with a full schedule and most of the time I have a waiting list of clients. It seems to be an untapped market. It’s a great way to begin because you can offer lower rates if you are not as experienced and get paid to learn. I’m now well into my 20th book and have honed my process pretty well. I don’t really hear of many illustrators doing this exclusively as a niche, but I can assure you, there is work out there in this area for all skill levels.
How much on average do you charge per book? I think I've always stayed away from that thinking it would pay so little.
I think a lot of people confuse a social media presence with an art career. Most SM is analogous to a siren's call. I have plenty of work but it is always tugging me even though I am not sure it is a good use of my time and will probably crash my ship.😁
Also, does anyone remember Artfol, the last Cara? I do and it makes me hesitant. I am not sure it is worth the time, I am still watching. Blue Sky is the only new SM I like so far.🤣
I have to comment on an old system that works so good. Lee mentioned artist try to go the free route of posting art and hoping for the best. I do post on instagram and will continue to, but my sales come from spending money, to get in front of a large audience, that wants to purchase my art the day of the event. I’m not an illustrator I’m a ceramic artist, I make a living from attending juried art shows. The cost involved: booth fees and traveling expenses are so worth it. I see it as advertising directly in person. There is no better interaction than real people seeing and picking up art and getting to talk to the artist. You just need to match your art with the right markets and hustle your butt off and add to your email list. . It’s funny this show has so much wisdom across the board I really appreciate it. So glad y’all put so much into it. Cheers.
thanks so much for the comment. i totally agree with you agreeing with me. lol. free stuff is all well and good, but if you want to be a pro, it's going to have costs involved. You can only go so far on free stuff
🤖Love your podcast guys, I just recently quit my full time job for numerous reasons, but one of them was so I can get something part time to pay the bills while I focus more energy on improving my art and upping my illustrative entrepreneurship game (what a mouthful) it's a little scary but having resources like this and the svs website is awesome, appreciate all the effort and experience you guys give to the podcast and website, I should participate in one of the fix my art episodes, I feel like I'd have a helluva lot to fix 😅
I love etchr, we’ve had their bags and things for years.
In a time of crisis, there 're people who act for better out come,
And there're people who do nothing for better outcome but cast doubt on every solution arrived before their eyes.
in a time of crisis, the best thing you can do is not panic
@@leewhite134 Do not panic and find solution instead of wait for solution,
@@huymaivan8671 yep!
Woo! Sijun! (jerO) 😂 did the conceptart Daily Sketch Group stuff consistently for awhile.
LOL you guys always make me laugh! Start a platform, sell it for 50 million! There is a moneymaker... Love this convo!
did facebook kill myspace? and did early google groups contribute? oh yeah blogspot or blogger
If you're constantly looking to be squashed, you'll never grow 🤖
The intrinsic value of art has been beat mercilessly out of me over the years, and yet in this time of most turmoil, that seems to be more important than ever before.
Why I'm listening to Steve-O and Chris Hemsworth talking about Cara here? xD
Always good to get your thoughts on social media. I thought I would throw in a left field one too. I have done ok using LinkedIn, my circumstances may be a bit different to many on here (I am an architectural illustrator & technician, 30 years experience & I am now a staff illustrator) I found LinkedIn has put me more in touch with people who are more on the business side of the industry & people I am (or likely) to work with. It might not be great for everyone, but could suit some.
Cheers
Al
Save ya time, yes
🤖 I'm half way through and waiting for "Lee's money tips" 😂 if it doesn't happen by the end I'm leaving this platform for another 🙃😄😉
lol
Love the real talk around Cara in this episode.
I missed Lee singing, 🎶"Leeeeee's money tips! Don't start an art platform. It's too expensive."🎶
The next HTFYA prompt should be "They never thought canning meats would be so involved!" LOL!
The solution to Lee's challenge for the 10 of Cups is clearly the SVS rabbit celebrating it's win at beer pong! 🤣
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more singing next episode! i promise!!!
I mean, i'll check it out, but really, it can't be helped. it cost to run things, thats why you have to pay for hosting and spend time. I've pulled back on social media and just focus on making the new project and direct marketing like shows and mailing lists. I'll post, but its last on the list and automated.
This is sooooo detached. Not even talking about the topic through most of it. The questions at hand are "Is Instagram still a valid place for artists to come together and be seen? Is AI closing the door to where you are in your career?"
I feel like Facebook killed MySpace.
Just make sure you dont come back to Instagram ok. Keep that in mind.
🤖 Midway stil here😄
Bring back eatpoo!!
i respect jake more with that stubble, will less since he lost the goatee, lee i have no respect for. 😉
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hahaha! I was trimming it yesterday and it got lopsided, so I shaved! Guess I have no more respect.
Cara desperately needs a revenue stream and a way to make money as it can't operate on donations and at a loss of thousands every month. I have little faith it will succeed.
i was thinking that too. i wonder how they will solve that problem
@@leewhite134 I would imagine it's best bet is a subscription based model for extra perks, as I have seen this work to a highly successful degree when you have a small but avid and passionate fan base. I have seen sites as low as $5 a month rake in hundreds of thousands off a small but close community
Sadly, so many people who want to sell their art will complain 😂 that a fee might be asked.
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Of course these guys would defend instagram (and lowkey be pro AI). Ever since the Inktober fiasco JP has consistently shown to be willing to throw artists under the bus for a quick buck.
"But hey buy my course!"
When did they defend instagram?
this reply is hilarious! so thank you! I love it when trolls say stuff like this! First of all, you are replying to a FREE podcast that we actually lose money on to make. And we have made over 200 of them! What a bunch of scammers! lol. Second, we all three could have easy jobs at university art programs charging hundreds of thousands of dollars, but we chose to make one of the cheapest and best curriculums we could. Do art professors at colleges teach to make "the quick buck"? Should we give our classes away for free and starve? Its just so silly! lol. Lastly, many of our students have gone on to get agents, publish books, and make products to sell and we love watching them become successful.
In response to instagram, it's an evolving issue and we are taking it day by day. We have invested huge amounts of our careers there and i'd never tell any artist to leave it without fully understanding why. It takes YEARS to build a following on a platform. So while leaving instagram for someone with 4 followers might be easy, leaving a platform where you have thousands isn't the same thing. It takes effort to see how each persons situation might be different, but you may wanna give it a try.
So, with all that said, can you provide the links for your free services you are offering for artists since you are so altruistic? surely you give away free right? can you send me your podcast that is dedicated to helping illustrators? i can't wait to see all this! i clicked on your profile and it says you don't have any content. hmmmm. can you point me in the right direction? want to see all the free stuff you have for me!
I think there is a misconception of trying to replace Instagram with Cara. These are different things. This exodus happened because artists often use instagram as portfolio or as an advertising platform for paintings and illustrations. When Meta said they are going to use it to train AI, that created fear amongst this community (rightfully so) and then Cara showed up as a safe heaven to share it. The problem though is that this social media is not for the general public, it is only for artists. So your eyeballs are limited to industry pros. Also, Cara was funded by a photographer
Jingna Zhang whom had her work plagiarized and she took it to justice and won. There is no way Cara will sell out to AI scrappers. if that happens then I guess you are right, but keep in mind that the creators of Cara are on artists side here. So maybe artists should try to replace Artstation with Cara. and leave Instagram for food, sunset and cat photography...
I feel like Will and Lee’s comments about Cara selling out to AI sadly demonstrate a level of entrenchment and lack of stakes in today's industry. Seriously-illustration for Lee isn’t his main source of income, and Will’s more interested in investments than art. They don’t even know anything about Cara’s origins or why it exists because they haven’t needed to. And being so dismissive of AI in the end just stupefies me. It rattles my respect.
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to take the position of “i don’t care ai scrapes my work, is momentary, short term satisfaction. the collective ai doesn’t care about the human position. corporations are collaborating, with the idea that they will use ai to cut out the human workforce. it’s so much bigger than the individual. if corporate entities seek 95% of human unemployment, they will use ai to get it. this thought of not caring directly contributes to our human employment downfall. there’s no going back if we give in without a fight.
Why would corporations seek 95% of human unemployment? That doesn't make sense. There'd be nobody left to buy their products.
@@VirideSoryuLangleybecause corporations don’t care about people at all. you’re a fool if you think otherwise. ultimately yes, you can’t rule a world if there’s nothing to rule over, and yes, that doesn’t make sense to do so, but again, corporations and capitalism.
The person you reviewed last show..her work looks like greeting cards, e-cards or advertising. I think of Mary Englebreit 😊 Have you guys thought of doing e-cards? Edit..I especially liked your point of deserting your followers. I know that is an important point in my thinking.
🤖 MILTON GLASER Speaking facts. Great pod. We creatives definitely overlook the strategy of who to target and what kind of demographic and subculture can resonate with your ideas
Will the audience care more about "real artist" authenticity or being entertained?
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Thanks for answering my question, glad I made you chortle with the title. 😉 And really helpful to hear your ideation methods. 🤖
to take the position of “i don’t care ai scrapes my work, is momentary, short term satisfaction. the collective ai doesn’t care about the human position. corporations are collaborating, with the idea that they will use ai to cut out the human workforce. it’s so much bigger than the individual. if corporate entities seek 95% of human unemployment, they will use ai to get it. this thought of not caring directly contributes to our human employment downfall. there’s no going back if we give in without a fight.
CottageCore!!!😂
I hope someone turns that into a hit videogame then re-invison it as a blockbuster movie/series
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