It’s interesting to see @10:51 that Lionel of Antwerp decided to implement the Statutes of Kilkenny in 1367 - a few years after his wife, Elizabeth de Burgh had died, in 1362. She was, of course, a member of the Norman de Burghs, who became ‘More Irish than the Irish’. Lionel had inherited Elizabeth’s Irish land and properties when they married and I am sure she would never have gone along with his Statutes, had she still been alive! It was through their daughter, Phillipa, that the Yorkists came to the English throne after the War of the Roses..
@@rivermoon6190 I fully agree with you. Sure! Wasn't it the branches of the de Burgh that where the most anti-panel laws going into the wars of the Roses in Ireland.
As a Mac Giolla Phádraig myself, I’ll add that the history of Kilkenny begins with the ancient Osraige people, whose roots stretch back to the ancient Milesian arrival, where Heremon, king of Ireland, son of Míl Espaine and Scota, ancestor of the Osraige is buried in southwest Kilkenny. Oengus Osrithe, his descendant ruled about the time of Christ, and his son Loegaire Birn Buadach gave rise to the Dál Birn lineage who maintained themselves as the kingdom’s leading lineage. From this line came St. Ciarán of Saighir, the first native Irish saint and first bishop to preach Christianity among the Irish. He was the son of Lughna, a Dál Birn prince and Liadán, a Corcu Loige princess who raised him on Cape Clear island in the south most Irish coast, who went to Rome to study for 30 years and after meeting St. Patrick in Italy, arrived to preach in Ireland to Osraige before him. He established many churches with his main monastery at Saighir on Osraige’s northernmost border in the Slieveblooms, which became its spiritual capital and the burial ground of Osraige’s kings. For several centuries, the Dál Birn were peacefully displaced from the central Nore valley by their allies, the Corcu Loige, but they returned to reclaim their kingship by force in the 7th century, by which time Osraige was nominally attached to Munster. This radically changed during the onset of the Viking era, which witnessed a dramatic rise in Osraige’s military power under the indomitable Cearbhall mac Dúnlainge who ruled from AD 842-888. He was the first Gaelic king to harness the power of the Danish Vikings; exploiting fractures within Viking rivalries and using them to smash the power of the Norwegian Vikings, as well as his Irish rivals in Leinster and Munster. As his power grew, he became the most dominant king in Leath Mogha, drawing the attention of the famous high king Mael Sechnaill in double marriage alliance, where Cearbhall married Mael Sechnaill’s daughter, and he married Cearbhall’s sister Lann, who became famous in Irish history in her own right as a high queen and mother of Flann Sinna. Osraige’s alliance with the Southern Uí Naill at this time was a decoupling from Munster, and Osraige was primarily independent as its own province at this point. Cearbhall dominated Irish politics, and later Norse sources cite him as an ancestor of important Icelandic families and a king of Dublin who was engaged in land battles from the Three Sister riverways of Osraige to possibly even naval conflicts in the Scottish Hebrides. By this time, Kilkenny city was already long-established as a center of political power and spiritual authority, and remains Ireland’s best example of a native-built Irish city which wasn’t founded by the Vikings. Cearbhall’s success launched his dynasty upwards, and his leading descendants became the Mac Gilla Pátraic clan who continued to develop Osraige through the Norman invasion, with their main rivals being to the east in Leinster. The Ossorians crushed the north Leinster dynasty of the Uí Dúnlainge, which gave rise to the aspirations of the south Leinster Uí Cennsalaig and the Mac Murchadha clan, who remained their bitterest rivals. Diarmait Mac Murchadha was fostered in Osraige under the Ui Ceallaigh clan (later called Faelin or Whalen) and he tried to subdue Osraige during a split in the Mac Giolla Phádraig clan’s political power. When Diarmait was exiled and sought Norman aid in England and France, Mac Gilla Pátraic infamously blinded Diarmait’s son and tániste, Enna, which led to fierce battles between the Ossorians and Norman mercenaries, especially at Freshford and Clashacrow. As the Anglo-Norman leaders entered Irish politics, a clear clash of legal systems saw the daughter of Strobgbow laying a female claim to Leinster, which they believed included Osraige. This is why William Marshall could not leave an independent Osraige as a strong Gaelic power in his border with Leinster, and why he chose to make Kilkenny city his main base of operations. His arrival with outstanding English forces at a time when the Mac Gilla Pátraics were split, saw them cede the lower Nore valley and regroup in the Slievebloom mountains, which everafter became known as as Upper Ossory and eventually established the border between Counties Kilkenny and Laois, down to today. The Mac Gilla Pátraics initially sided with the FitzGeralds until Henry VIII’s policy of surrender and regrant, where upon they married into the Ormond Butler polity and took an English lordship in 1541, becoming the first Irish Gaelic clan to sit in Parliament in Kilkenny and Dublin, changing their surname to Fitzpatrick. For more information, see: www.fitzpatricksociety.com
Thank you for this video! Thoroughly enjoyed ! The beautiful landscape and culture I would love to see in person! The Butlers and Fitzgeralds are some of my Irish connections. Sad to see they had conflict.
Unfortunatley newcomers form other parts of the world are now saying they are ancinet Irish also... unbelievable but sad and true...one African ion Tik Tok gets many views and tries to foold people saying Irish have African roots and teh Druids were African
It’s interesting to see @10:51 that Lionel of Antwerp decided to implement the Statutes of Kilkenny in 1367 - a few years after his wife, Elizabeth de Burgh had died, in 1362. She was, of course, a member of the Norman de Burghs, who became ‘More Irish than the Irish’. Lionel had inherited Elizabeth’s Irish land and properties when they married and I am sure she would never have gone along with his Statutes, had she still been alive!
It was through their daughter, Phillipa, that the Yorkists came to the English throne after the War of the Roses..
@@rivermoon6190 I fully agree with you. Sure! Wasn't it the branches of the de Burgh that where the most anti-panel laws going into the wars of the Roses in Ireland.
As a Mac Giolla Phádraig myself, I’ll add that the history of Kilkenny begins with the ancient Osraige people, whose roots stretch back to the ancient Milesian arrival, where Heremon, king of Ireland, son of Míl Espaine and Scota, ancestor of the Osraige is buried in southwest Kilkenny. Oengus Osrithe, his descendant ruled about the time of Christ, and his son Loegaire Birn Buadach gave rise to the Dál Birn lineage who maintained themselves as the kingdom’s leading lineage. From this line came St. Ciarán of Saighir, the first native Irish saint and first bishop to preach Christianity among the Irish. He was the son of Lughna, a Dál Birn prince and Liadán, a Corcu Loige princess who raised him on Cape Clear island in the south most Irish coast, who went to Rome to study for 30 years and after meeting St. Patrick in Italy, arrived to preach in Ireland to Osraige before him. He established many churches with his main monastery at Saighir on Osraige’s northernmost border in the Slieveblooms, which became its spiritual capital and the burial ground of Osraige’s kings. For several centuries, the Dál Birn were peacefully displaced from the central Nore valley by their allies, the Corcu Loige, but they returned to reclaim their kingship by force in the 7th century, by which time Osraige was nominally attached to Munster. This radically changed during the onset of the Viking era, which witnessed a dramatic rise in Osraige’s military power under the indomitable Cearbhall mac Dúnlainge who ruled from AD 842-888. He was the first Gaelic king to harness the power of the Danish Vikings; exploiting fractures within Viking rivalries and using them to smash the power of the Norwegian Vikings, as well as his Irish rivals in Leinster and Munster. As his power grew, he became the most dominant king in Leath Mogha, drawing the attention of the famous high king Mael Sechnaill in double marriage alliance, where Cearbhall married Mael Sechnaill’s daughter, and he married Cearbhall’s sister Lann, who became famous in Irish history in her own right as a high queen and mother of Flann Sinna. Osraige’s alliance with the Southern Uí Naill at this time was a decoupling from Munster, and Osraige was primarily independent as its own province at this point. Cearbhall dominated Irish politics, and later Norse sources cite him as an ancestor of important Icelandic families and a king of Dublin who was engaged in land battles from the Three Sister riverways of Osraige to possibly even naval conflicts in the Scottish Hebrides. By this time, Kilkenny city was already long-established as a center of political power and spiritual authority, and remains Ireland’s best example of a native-built Irish city which wasn’t founded by the Vikings. Cearbhall’s success launched his dynasty upwards, and his leading descendants became the Mac Gilla Pátraic clan who continued to develop Osraige through the Norman invasion, with their main rivals being to the east in Leinster. The Ossorians crushed the north Leinster dynasty of the Uí Dúnlainge, which gave rise to the aspirations of the south Leinster Uí Cennsalaig and the Mac Murchadha clan, who remained their bitterest rivals. Diarmait Mac Murchadha was fostered in Osraige under the Ui Ceallaigh clan (later called Faelin or Whalen) and he tried to subdue Osraige during a split in the Mac Giolla Phádraig clan’s political power. When Diarmait was exiled and sought Norman aid in England and France, Mac Gilla Pátraic infamously blinded Diarmait’s son and tániste, Enna, which led to fierce battles between the Ossorians and Norman mercenaries, especially at Freshford and Clashacrow. As the Anglo-Norman leaders entered Irish politics, a clear clash of legal systems saw the daughter of Strobgbow laying a female claim to Leinster, which they believed included Osraige. This is why William Marshall could not leave an independent Osraige as a strong Gaelic power in his border with Leinster, and why he chose to make Kilkenny city his main base of operations. His arrival with outstanding English forces at a time when the Mac Gilla Pátraics were split, saw them cede the lower Nore valley and regroup in the Slievebloom mountains, which everafter became known as as Upper Ossory and eventually established the border between Counties Kilkenny and Laois, down to today. The Mac Gilla Pátraics initially sided with the FitzGeralds until Henry VIII’s policy of surrender and regrant, where upon they married into the Ormond Butler polity and took an English lordship in 1541, becoming the first Irish Gaelic clan to sit in Parliament in Kilkenny and Dublin, changing their surname to Fitzpatrick. For more information, see: www.fitzpatricksociety.com
O! that's a perfect point! thank you for sharing.
@ I over share because I love this channel.
@@OssoryOverSeas O! no, it's grand. I love it.
Love you. My guy!!
@@tmoney6128 😂 love you to Xxx
Thank you for this video! Thoroughly enjoyed ! The beautiful landscape and culture I would love to see in person! The Butlers and Fitzgeralds are some of my Irish connections. Sad to see they had conflict.
Am glad you enjoyed. Yes, in Ireland in the wars of the roses. Which I have already done a video on.
@@IrishMedievalHistorythank you! Yes I’ve a lot of catching up to do viewing.
Just found your channel and I love this! Thank you so much!
Your more then welcome! thank you.
And they called it the Irish ROVER!!!
@@tmoney6128 😂🤣
Unfortunatley newcomers form other parts of the world are now saying they are ancinet Irish also... unbelievable but sad and true...one African ion Tik Tok gets many views and tries to foold people saying Irish have African roots and teh Druids were African
Do you mind sending on the link??
In a very hetro way lol😂
Nah saying? Gotta get buddy outta here🏰
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@@tmoney6128 see ya later.
Were the butĺlers my fams allies?
@@tmoney6128 😂 not sure yet.
Are you not just reading a ChatGPT script? I can’t tell honestly…
I had some really good Italian food on the corner, downtown -across from the castle… tell ‘em HotLunch sent ye.