My recovery journey was greatly enhanced by the therapeutic benefits of mushrooms. Other psychedelics like DMT and LSD have also proven to be remarkable.
Woah your video quality skyrocketed my guy!! This is by far the best video I have watched about mycology for research, of course. Thank you!! 🙏 keep posting please, I’ll be there to watch and like every vid along with others!
So instead of using a bigger monotonous to contain the smaller ones , I am using the bods tek in a 2 by 2 grow tent Meaning going straight to fruiting. Do I have to allow air into the tent, as im worried about spreading trich through my tent if it presents itself or can I leave it enclosed like how this grow simulates?
@Stay.Shroomy I so appreciate your channel and that of Stipe, from the Shroomery. Good to have accurate information, in contrast to so many channels that just repeat long debunked myths and misinformation about cultivation. Thank you.
@@edwardmitchell7 Haha that makes sense. I figured if it's cured and sterilized it doesn't matter, but yeah. Wasn't sure if you meant it would be a contam risk.
Very nice. A few tips I use. I like to pack the edge, add more coir to level to help stop side-pinning, and I wash my hands with Hibiclens (chlorhexidine gluconate) without any issues going w/o gloves. Also wanted to note the vid thumbnail is using millet as food, and I like it best for similar dense growth and many good flushes.
Thanks. Nice and tight...definitely sending new hobbyist friends to this. Was wondering about your typical RH where you live? At 6500' we are pretty dry so I'm working on KISS ways to keep the fruiting chamber humid. Diaper tek as well as water beads are the path at the moment. In appreciation.
@@jose2226 the first two sets of shoeboxes went great, good yields and good second flushes. I had some contamination in a couple of shoeboxes, but I live in SoCal and we went through some wicked hot days and weeks. I was thinking about putting the shoebox into a Martha tent when they start to pin. Any thoughts about that?
Thank you so much for your explanations! Seriously, all the other videos from people talk about how everything has to be sterile and I know enough about biology and sterile processes...so it just didn't make sense that everyone is so stressed about it lol I would love a tutorial for your mason jar spawning!
@@TeaTellyWMaria What does this even mean lol? The jargon used is so confusing for someone who's trying to get into this for the first time. If I were to do just one shoe box instead of four like in the video, which yields an ounce of dry fruit, that doesn't seem like "bulk." So why would I need to worry so much about sterilization? As he said there are all kinds of bacteria floating around the air, how the hell would I keep the bin sterile while putting in the substrate and spores?
@@RC-hv1yx He means that when you are creating spawn (grain with spores to colonize) the bowls, grain and cap need to be sterile or you'll have mold for sure there.
Ive tried so many times. Ive used bags ive used jars ive used petri dishes ive used toats. Every time it gets that green and blue mold. The only time ive grown mushrooms is one time i squirted half a syringe into a 50 gal pot i was growing bud in organically. Mycelium took over the whole top layer about and inch thick just under the surface. But it never fruited. It was Ecuadorian cubensis i think, was years ago.
whats your sterile workspace like? I see tons of people using box fans and furnace filters, which I do not recommend. Either use a properly made SAB or commercial grade laminar flow hood. I've been using a SAB for over 10 years!
@@Stay.Shroomy .... I'm so confused. So you can't just do this in a regular room in your home? You need some kind of filtration system that is likely very expensive..?
There are studies showing that full spectrum blue light or white light are the best for mushrooms. Even while kept in 24/7 light scenarios with no periods of darkness. They prefer far-end blue light so full spectrum blue light is the best, like 7000K but I go with 6000K full spectrum which is slightly blue. 5000k is absolute white and is still better than red light. Red lights hinder mushroom growth.
78! Gram wet PE shrooms in an inflatable monotub 45$ amazon. Best flushes I ever gotten I’ve been making tubs for years. My advice is go smaller and try the inflatable I’ve never gotten contam in the inflatable tubs but anything bigger than 32 quarts and if u add a late casing layer u will most likely get Trichaderma. And if that happens don’t open the tub remove it front the grow area and as much as it suck toss it in the compost pile. I’ve contaminated my whole tent trying to save 1 tub. 😂😂😂 live and learn. Also don’t open them unless it absolutely necessary. Let them ride and whe. Fruiting don’t open till u about ready to harvest
@@yakivpopavich they only make 1 size that I know of 12” x18”x11” tall perfect size and I gotten 77 gram wet penis envy shroom that were almost side pins the inflatable also kept the temperature from jumping around to much they are great set it and forget it tubs
I'm trying to find more information about the light?? Like how much light is needed in terms of how many hours per day and when? Maybe what type of light is best? My friend's situation is that he is going to be using a closet that is in the bathroom of a restaurant he runs in the Florida keys. The mushrooms can be checked on at night for any maintenance but it must be kept in the closet. So he is talking about it needs light and I'm looking for a source or something to find out more about how much light it needs and what kind and I've also heard you can just completely grow it in a closet with no light. Anyone can message me with more info
I agree with you with the gloves kind of. Yes there is contamination in the air. Why its important to wear gloves is it reduces your chance of contam. Why? Yeast and other contaminants on your skin can take over very quickly if you skipped a step. Dry coir is F.U.L.L of trich. Id rather spend the 5$ and 15 seconds once a year then to waste 2+ weeks of waste grain spawn
Brother that’s the point of a tent or still air box. So airflow isn’t stirring contaminants. So the chances are better there but you should wear gloves. Just lazy and careless to lot imo
So instead of using a bigger monotoub to contain the smaller ones , I am using the bods tek in a 2 by 2 grow tent Meaning going straight to fruiting. Do I have to allow air into the tent, as im worried about spreading trich through my tent if it presents itself?
I think he's just using coir. I grow on CVG - Coco Coir, Vermiculite, Gypsum - which I have found to help my grows. Coir alone works just fine though with proper pasteurization/sterilization
Did you use any heating ? What strain is this? I never seen somwtjing so huge. Question , once you first flush. Theres a layer of myceliyn or aborted small pins that i cant remove( thry get squished) how do you rehydrate ? With out it rotting ?
Is there a way to encourage native, wild mushrooms to grow outside? I have no intention of eating them, I just love all the little mushrooms that occasionally pop up in my yard, but I'm wondering if there's a way to get them to show up more often. I cannot use manure even if I wanted to, so anything other than that. Compost and a lot of misting maybe?
OK, I have a question: When I'm traveling in a camper(min)van, I want to grow mushrooms. BUT I only have room for the smaller showbox. Is that larger box on the outside absolutely necessary? I would love to add mushrooms to my already small microgreen garden, but space is a concern.
Coconut Coir! It's a common substrate used and is easy to work with, since there aren't many nutrients inside of it (reduces contamination risk). I grow on CVG - Coco Coir, Vermiculite, Gypsum
Newbie here, sorry if this is a dumb question: is the spawn just your mycelium? So if I were using the uncle bens method for example, my spawn would just be the rice with the mycelium in it?
you can fruit shoeboxes without a monotub, but I highly recommend using one. lots of people just take a 2nd tub and put it on top, a dub-tub. I never liked those too much.
@@Stay.Shroomy quick question bro ive worked with agar so far with swabs and had great success but want to share with a friend just getting into researching. I want to make a few spore syringes with the remaining swab i have. Whats a technique you’d advise in putting swabs to syringe? Same as starting with a print; make a distilled water solution?
can you use the shoe box method in a greenhouse outside? I would like to grow my own, but really do not want to bother with growing them in the basement. I know I'd forget they were there.
Made them myself... Jammed a screwdriver thru a glass coke bottle cap then heated the bottle cap with a torch and then pushed the hot bottle cap thru the plastic. Be careful not to touch the hot plastic, and a make spot to catch dripping plastic between holes while reheating.
I live in the Philippines where it is very hot and I sweat like crazy when I spawn to bulk because I turn off the AC when I S2B. My hands sweat like crazy so I wear gloves. Do I really need to turn off the AC when I spawn to bulk? Because I can NEVER enjoy S2B because it is always so hot and I sweat like crazy.
I don't currently have any for sale, but you could probably find someone in my discord server that has it to trade. It was Melmac PE Thick Penis, to be specific. Links in the description
I grew mycellium in a bag. when it was white and started to grow mushrooms inside i moved to a shoe box and covered with soil. It pinned everywhere so I moved to fruiting box with air vents and light. After 2 weeks nothing had happened really so I spritzed with water. Been another week still nothing really has happened. What Am I doing wrong?
update. Ive noticed a secondary like mold hairs growing on the leftover pins.. It must have been contaminated. I had been lifting the top off my flowering box 2X a day for air for a few sec.
Yeah you'll need pasteurized, or sterilized coir (you just buy regular coco coir and do it yourself). I grow on CVG - Coco Coir, Vermiculite, Gypsum - and I know it's probably overkill, but I pressure cook it at 15PSI for 2 hours before use.
@@ethanzapach thanks man!! I don't have a pressure cooker, although my mushrooms are fruiting . I ended up pouring boiling water into my coir mix with vermiculite. It's mt first-time ever growing mushrooms too!!
@@AliOmar-he5zv I wish you good luck with your grow and good vibes for your week! Mycology is a deep hole to fall down, but it's worth every second IMO
What’s the point of the shoeboxes if they fruit in a monotub anyway? I’m honestly asking I’m gonna start another run but am stuck between monotub or shoebox/dub tub
The point is to grow mushrooms. This tek is not intended to replace monotubs at all. Its for people that use shoeboxes and want the best way to fruit them. Monos have positive qualities all their own. A few reasons you might want to do this method... 1. You don't have to mix multiple jars of spawn together. 1 spawn jar = one shoebox. 2. You can grow more than one variety in the same space. 3. They are easier to manage than a full size mono substrate at harvest and cleanup.
i get the 5 kilo blocks. theres several brands. yeah I cook my grains, I prefer triple cleaned equine oats from a farm/ranch store or kroger brand wild bird seed (in the pet aisle). you can find links to the Amazon products in the video description!
Pasteurizing is enough for monotub substrates. There is no point in sterilizing when the grow will take place in a non-sterile environment. You must however sterilize your spawn.
My recovery journey was greatly enhanced by the therapeutic benefits of mushrooms. Other psychedelics like DMT and LSD have also proven to be remarkable.
Hey mate, can someone help me with a source?
doctorcyruss is your guy, got all kinds of psychedelics and the most knowledgeable that i know.
Is he on telgram?
Yes, and TikTok. Highly recommended
Its amazing how they work better than antidepressants and serve as recreational purpose as well
Youll never forget the first time you harvest. It really is magical😊
So true. Man you gave me some nice flashbacks 😅
Fuck bro I'm so excited
Woah your video quality skyrocketed my guy!! This is by far the best video I have watched about mycology for research, of course. Thank you!! 🙏 keep posting please, I’ll be there to watch and like every vid along with others!
Thank you! This set up seems ideal for us newbies who want to try different strains. ✌🏼♡︎
Damn those shrooms are friking strong! That genetic is unreal!
There are so many of those, that the presure goes so wide area that those hold the weight.
This is all the insight I need to start my at home shroomie family.
Are you ok with the knowledge?
This has honestly mind blowned me cause why didn't I think of just getting another tub? Helps prevent less contam depending on the strain
So instead of using a bigger monotonous to contain the smaller ones , I am using the bods tek in a 2 by 2 grow tent
Meaning going straight to fruiting. Do I have to allow air into the tent, as im worried about spreading trich through my tent if it presents itself or can I leave it enclosed like how this grow simulates?
@Stay.Shroomy I so appreciate your channel and that of Stipe, from the Shroomery. Good to have accurate information, in contrast to so many channels that just repeat long debunked myths and misinformation about cultivation. Thank you.
With coir I don't wear gloves, but any bagged substrate material that has manure, definitely wear gloves.
Haha ya I don't disagree. Never actually used any manure. Just BRF and coir.
This may be a stupid question, but why?
@@adityaprasad465 manure is 💩, and it's just been a habit not to put my hand in 💩. Hands free Japanese toilet is the way to go 🙌🙌
@@edwardmitchell7 Haha that makes sense. I figured if it's cured and sterilized it doesn't matter, but yeah. Wasn't sure if you meant it would be a contam risk.
@Stay.Shroomy what are ur:
1. Spawn to grain ratio
2. Substrate recipe
Very nice. A few tips I use. I like to pack the edge, add more coir to level to help stop side-pinning, and I wash my hands with Hibiclens (chlorhexidine gluconate) without any issues going w/o gloves. Also wanted to note the vid thumbnail is using millet as food, and I like it best for similar dense growth and many good flushes.
even pan cyans grows in shoeboxes they are great.
out of all the other videos i like this video because it was short and detailed.
Thanks for the feedback
Thanks. Nice and tight...definitely sending new hobbyist friends to this. Was wondering about your typical RH where you live? At 6500' we are pretty dry so I'm working on KISS ways to keep the fruiting chamber humid. Diaper tek as well as water beads are the path at the moment. In appreciation.
I'm in Denver!
@@Stay.Shroomyin golden nice to know on elevation 😊
Thabk you for the idea about keeping inside of a mono bin. Perfect 👌
Thanks for the video. I’m going to try it now and I’ll give you an update in a couple of weeks!
Which strain did you go with and did you have any luck?
@@ross5839 I just got a great flush of Hill Billy’s and my APE’s are pinning!
@@ross5839 went with Hill Billy and A.P.E.s and they were both great flushes!
How did it go?
@@jose2226 the first two sets of shoeboxes went great, good yields and good second flushes. I had some contamination in a couple of shoeboxes, but I live in SoCal and we went through some wicked hot days and weeks. I was thinking about putting the shoebox into a Martha tent when they start to pin. Any thoughts about that?
Thank you so much for your explanations! Seriously, all the other videos from people talk about how everything has to be sterile and I know enough about biology and sterile processes...so it just didn't make sense that everyone is so stressed about it lol
I would love a tutorial for your mason jar spawning!
Once you spawn to bulk, there is no need for sterile technique. Before that though, it is needed.
@@TeaTellyWMaria What does this even mean lol? The jargon used is so confusing for someone who's trying to get into this for the first time. If I were to do just one shoe box instead of four like in the video, which yields an ounce of dry fruit, that doesn't seem like "bulk." So why would I need to worry so much about sterilization? As he said there are all kinds of bacteria floating around the air, how the hell would I keep the bin sterile while putting in the substrate and spores?
@@RC-hv1yx He means that when you are creating spawn (grain with spores to colonize) the bowls, grain and cap need to be sterile or you'll have mold for sure there.
Ive tried so many times. Ive used bags ive used jars ive used petri dishes ive used toats. Every time it gets that green and blue mold. The only time ive grown mushrooms is one time i squirted half a syringe into a 50 gal pot i was growing bud in organically. Mycelium took over the whole top layer about and inch thick just under the surface. But it never fruited. It was Ecuadorian cubensis i think, was years ago.
whats your sterile workspace like? I see tons of people using box fans and furnace filters, which I do not recommend. Either use a properly made SAB or commercial grade laminar flow hood. I've been using a SAB for over 10 years!
@@Stay.Shroomy .... I'm so confused. So you can't just do this in a regular room in your home? You need some kind of filtration system that is likely very expensive..?
@@RC-hv1yxI think he refs to this method when growing mushrooms with more exacting matures. This vid is just for normal cult and eat mush
@@RC-hv1yxHe's saying to not use fans and cover your vents up if you're continuously getting contams and not using an SAB
Thank you for this setup idea , it gave me success. ❤
Nice, good info on gloves/no gloves during that step.
Glad it was helpful!
I wish I would have known it was this easy the first I will be doing this on next ones just waiting on the culture now
I'm all about KISS and DIY
How did it go?
genius 2 strain 1 tub
Great information dude very good for a newbie!
Very Nice! Enjoyed your video. Thanks
Crazy amount of choke but it gets the results
What substrate is that? Also for your spawn are those jars airtight?
Hey Shroomy, how much water did u use and does it work on magic mushrooms as well? great video
You'll need to watch the separate prep videos for the grain and the substrate for how much water. These are magic mushies in the video.
Pe penis envy?
Is there holes on your shoebox tubs?
No
There are studies showing that full spectrum blue light or white light are the best for mushrooms.
Even while kept in 24/7 light scenarios with no periods of darkness.
They prefer far-end blue light so full spectrum blue light is the best, like 7000K but I go with 6000K full spectrum which is slightly blue. 5000k is absolute white and is still better than red light. Red lights hinder mushroom growth.
Thanks!
78! Gram wet PE shrooms in an inflatable monotub 45$ amazon. Best flushes I ever gotten I’ve been making tubs for years. My advice is go smaller and try the inflatable I’ve never gotten contam in the inflatable tubs but anything bigger than 32 quarts and if u add a late casing layer u will most likely get Trichaderma. And if that happens don’t open the tub remove it front the grow area and as much as it suck toss it in the compost pile. I’ve contaminated my whole tent trying to save 1 tub. 😂😂😂 live and learn. Also don’t open them unless it absolutely necessary. Let them ride and whe. Fruiting don’t open till u about ready to harvest
What size monotub did you buy?, the inflatable one?
@@yakivpopavich they only make 1 size that I know of 12” x18”x11” tall perfect size and I gotten 77 gram wet penis envy shroom that were almost side pins the inflatable also kept the temperature from jumping around to much they are great set it and forget it tubs
How do you grow PE without a casing layer and not get blobs ?
@ I never gotten blobs and I don’t add any casing just a fine layer and I send straight into fruiting conditions
@ also almost every time I used a big tubs I added a casing layer and everything else I did I either got Trich or cobweb mold
Great video. What humidity is your climate though? May be why you don’t need to mist. My climate is consistently 19%.
I'm in Denver, it's pretty dry here.
Dude thats an insane yield
I'm trying to find more information about the light??
Like how much light is needed in terms of how many hours per day and when? Maybe what type of light is best?
My friend's situation is that he is going to be using a closet that is in the bathroom of a restaurant he runs in the Florida keys. The mushrooms can be checked on at night for any maintenance but it must be kept in the closet.
So he is talking about it needs light and I'm looking for a source or something to find out more about how much light it needs and what kind and I've also heard you can just completely grow it in a closet with no light. Anyone can message me with more info
I agree with you with the gloves kind of. Yes there is contamination in the air.
Why its important to wear gloves is it reduces your chance of contam. Why?
Yeast and other contaminants on your skin can take over very quickly if you skipped a step. Dry coir is F.U.L.L of trich. Id rather spend the 5$ and 15 seconds once a year then to waste 2+ weeks of waste grain spawn
Brother that’s the point of a tent or still air box. So airflow isn’t stirring contaminants. So the chances are better there but you should wear gloves. Just lazy and careless to lot imo
I let my grain spawn go until it's almost all white with mycelium.
So instead of using a bigger monotoub to contain the smaller ones , I am using the bods tek in a 2 by 2 grow tent
Meaning going straight to fruiting. Do I have to allow air into the tent, as im worried about spreading trich through my tent if it presents itself?
What are those holes inside of your outer tubs? There's some kind of membrane in front of it seems? Is this necessary?
Haha no audio? I talk about it, they are 6 1.25" covered in micropore tape. There are many kinds of monotub designs, this is just one I prefer.
did you use only coco? did you add any supplements to keep that healthy medium to decrease contamination chances?
I think he's just using coir. I grow on CVG - Coco Coir, Vermiculite, Gypsum - which I have found to help my grows. Coir alone works just fine though with proper pasteurization/sterilization
Did you mist the substrate layer before closing the shoeboxes?
Did you use any heating ? What strain is this? I never seen somwtjing so huge.
Question , once you first flush. Theres a layer of myceliyn or aborted small pins that i cant remove( thry get squished) how do you rehydrate ? With out it rotting ?
Is there a way to encourage native, wild mushrooms to grow outside? I have no intention of eating them, I just love all the little mushrooms that occasionally pop up in my yard, but I'm wondering if there's a way to get them to show up more often. I cannot use manure even if I wanted to, so anything other than that. Compost and a lot of misting maybe?
bury some caps in shady spots around your property
Beginner here, is that a coconut coir base?
yes just coco coir and water nothing else
OK, I have a question: When I'm traveling in a camper(min)van, I want to grow mushrooms. BUT I only have room for the smaller showbox. Is that larger box on the outside absolutely necessary? I would love to add mushrooms to my already small microgreen garden, but space is a concern.
Unless you keep your camper sterile and incredibly humid then yeah it's necessary
@@mrguy1141 well, there goes that
What is the core
Coconut Coir! It's a common substrate used and is easy to work with, since there aren't many nutrients inside of it (reduces contamination risk). I grow on CVG - Coco Coir, Vermiculite, Gypsum
Newbie here, sorry if this is a dumb question: is the spawn just your mycelium? So if I were using the uncle bens method for example, my spawn would just be the rice with the mycelium in it?
spawn is grain that has been colonized by mycelium
Are these strong enough to make you really trip?
I just ate some that I grew myself at the Phish festival and had a blast!
You don't put holes in the shoe boxes?
Naw
do you need the monotub? and where do you get the spawn?
you can fruit shoeboxes without a monotub, but I highly recommend using one. lots of people just take a 2nd tub and put it on top, a dub-tub. I never liked those too much.
Thank you
great video man !!! straight forward an to the Point . got a lead on spores or lc for any variety of PE ??? Thanks !!!
I purchased from his amazon store. He now has a website. His swabs are great ive hotten ovef 20 syringes out of the two swabs he provides
just a heads up, I have a bunch of new swabs that will be hitting the amazon store this weekend
@@Stay.Shroomy ill most definately be shopping! Loyal customer til i get tored of mycology!(never)
@@Stay.Shroomy quick question bro ive worked with agar so far with swabs and had great success but want to share with a friend just getting into researching. I want to make a few spore syringes with the remaining swab i have. Whats a technique you’d advise in putting swabs to syringe? Same as starting with a print; make a distilled water solution?
can you use the shoe box method in a greenhouse outside? I would like to grow my own, but really do not want to bother with growing them in the basement. I know I'd forget they were there.
give it a try and report back! I don't have any outdoor space.
Did you buy tubs with holes or you make the holes?
Made them myself... Jammed a screwdriver thru a glass coke bottle cap then heated the bottle cap with a torch and then pushed the hot bottle cap thru the plastic. Be careful not to touch the hot plastic, and a make spot to catch dripping plastic between holes while reheating.
What size shoe box did he use
6 quart
Hello do i hv to let them colonize first ? Or can i go straight to fruiting?
the colonizing conditions is an old technique. i do recommend going straight to fruiting now. it speeds things up significantly.
@@Stay.Shroomy ok that's what I did...thank you
I went and watch your twitch video..I noticed you did pasteurize.. ur substrate..so you dont need to do that?
And I went to you amazon store...when will you have substrate on stock?
Any difference to procedure when cultivating Natalensis?
Sorry never grown them but currently trying
Stay shroomed for next episode !
I live in the Philippines where it is very hot and I sweat like crazy when I spawn to bulk because I turn off the AC when I S2B. My hands sweat like crazy so I wear gloves.
Do I really need to turn off the AC when I spawn to bulk? Because I can NEVER enjoy S2B because it is always so hot and I sweat like crazy.
Thanks so you don't mist it with water or anything
Typically no that's what fruiting it inside a mono helps with
@@Stay.Shroomy thanks a lot
Best video i seen so far, thank u
Glad it helped
I would love to know where to find this varieties?
They are biiiiig
Is there any place I could get them from?
I don't currently have any for sale, but you could probably find someone in my discord server that has it to trade. It was Melmac PE Thick Penis, to be specific. Links in the description
@Stay.Shroomy you still got your website? also, I take it you don't do your interactive mushroom Q&A on UA-cam anymore?
You could get that from my vendor if you want.
He's on instagram.
@Charlesmyco
i dont understand what you do there but it seems fun
I grew mycellium in a bag. when it was white and started to grow mushrooms inside i moved to a shoe box and covered with soil. It pinned everywhere so I moved to fruiting box with air vents and light. After 2 weeks nothing had happened really so I spritzed with water. Been another week still nothing really has happened.
What Am I doing wrong?
update. Ive noticed a secondary like mold hairs growing on the leftover pins.. It must have been contaminated.
I had been lifting the top off my flowering box 2X a day for air for a few sec.
those shrooms have nba player genetics
lol
Could I do a normal grow bag, wait for the grain to colonize, then mix it and transfer it to a box like this?
certainly and I would recommend that as bags are not the best fruiting chamber option
@@Stay.ShroomyI have been thinking about this also. I have 2x 2lb grow bags ready to colonise. What ratio coir would I mix with please?
Did you do anything with the sub, how did you not get any contamination, that's crazy, please explain better
I used agar to produce clean spawn from quality genetics. Thats pretty much the gist of it!
woops !!! hahaha , i just clicked on more an see you got it covered , be in touch soon thanks ! Peace !
And this applies to all mushrooms..Because certain ones grow in poop...?
Is there a specific coir that is needed that is maybe pasturized ?
Yeah you'll need pasteurized, or sterilized coir (you just buy regular coco coir and do it yourself). I grow on CVG - Coco Coir, Vermiculite, Gypsum - and I know it's probably overkill, but I pressure cook it at 15PSI for 2 hours before use.
@@ethanzapach thanks man!! I don't have a pressure cooker, although my mushrooms are fruiting . I ended up pouring boiling water into my coir mix with vermiculite. It's mt first-time ever growing mushrooms too!!
@@AliOmar-he5zv I wish you good luck with your grow and good vibes for your week! Mycology is a deep hole to fall down, but it's worth every second IMO
What grain is you using
Looks like whole oats
How often are you supposed to give them water
don’t quote me but i think it creates its own ecosystem as long as it’s wet enough inside
Do I need to leave them in cooled area
60-75 Fahrenheit is ideal
@@Stay.Shroomy tnx a lot
Whats that ??a mould?
what shoetubs do you use?
Sterlite 6 qt
@@Stay.Shroomy thank you!
what size are the shoe boxes?
US size 10 / EU size 44 😋
Is that 100% coir ir is it cvg ? Nice grow btw
100% coir thanks
How long would you say it takes for them to be fully ready from just planting them?
about a month
Those look like GCT
Is everything completely sterile using alcohol or something?
there are no hidden steps
Is this a good method for other types of mushrooms like oysters or lions mane?
Did you just use regular coir?
yup!
I used pasteurized cvg substrate but all of my kits contaminated even tho the grain spawn was perfectly grown and without visible contamination
I started sterilizing my CVG just to give my mushies the best possible chance
Can I use potting mix instead of coir?
Coir is ideal because it’s nutrient deficient. Thus, contaminants won’t inherently grow on it
Dont you get pins growing on the sides?
Side pins don't matter. Bonus mushrooms
do you leave foil on those jars after inoculating them when you use the method of turning the lid
unmodded flipped lids don't need foil at any point ever! one of the big reasons I like it.
@@Stay.Shroomy even not when you pc them ?
What’s the point of the shoeboxes if they fruit in a monotub anyway? I’m honestly asking I’m gonna start another run but am stuck between monotub or shoebox/dub tub
The point is to grow mushrooms. This tek is not intended to replace monotubs at all. Its for people that use shoeboxes and want the best way to fruit them. Monos have positive qualities all their own. A few reasons you might want to do this method...
1. You don't have to mix multiple jars of spawn together. 1 spawn jar = one shoebox.
2. You can grow more than one variety in the same space.
3. They are easier to manage than a full size mono substrate at harvest and cleanup.
do you make your own substrate and spawn ?
yes i have vids for both on my channel
Is that reg coco coir or a mix? Also do u make ur grain or wheres the best place to buy
i get the 5 kilo blocks. theres several brands. yeah I cook my grains, I prefer triple cleaned equine oats from a farm/ranch store or kroger brand wild bird seed (in the pet aisle). you can find links to the Amazon products in the video description!
Plain coir is just fine. The main thing is clean spawn to begin with.
Isnt PE x Melmac = Thrasher?
Its not PE x Melmac. Melmac is a type of PE.
@@Stay.Shroomy OK. it says it's a "variant of a variant" from Melmac. So... I guess they just kept cloning Melmacs til they got something different.
Are these 6-quart shoeboxes?
yes
do you sterilize the coco coir?
Nope just hydrate it
what substrate did you use?
Cocoa coir
Are those all basically seeds? If so why are there only a few big ass mushrooms?
some cultures grow lots of small mushrooms. this culture grows a few very large mushrooms. overall yield is the same.
Can you do this with psilocybin? Always wanted to try but never did because it seems like a lot
this method is actually mostly just for psilocybin mushrooms. gourmet mushrooms don't do well with this technique.
Confused how/why you don’t get any side pins??
I get so many😑
True he has fully mastered the art I guess. I put a black plastic liner on the bottom of my tubs so that I don't get side pins
Do u sterilise ur top soil for casing layer
Pasteurizing is enough for monotub substrates. There is no point in sterilizing when the grow will take place in a non-sterile environment. You must however sterilize your spawn.
I presume that your coir medium has been previously pasteurised and hydrated as you don't mention anything about it here.
It definitely has been!
Beautiful
What is the spawn made from?
Triple cleaned equine oats
Ive got some Golden teachers growing but im seeing an issue they were pinning but turned into lil fat balls with no stem
Why is this happening
Mutations we call them blobs. You can try the next tub adding a compacted 2" top layer of coir at spawning. Seems to help with the issues.
Did you pasteurize your cocoa coir or is it just soaked in tap water?
Tap water 💦
Does anyone know the average yield with this method?
1 dry oz per quart of spawn used