We need more episodes with Kinsey in front of the cameras. If Valve can get Firefox and Thunderbird working natively on SteamOS then I'd jump for a Steam Deck. The built-in browser in Steam is atrociously bare-bones. It needs to add extensions, bookmarks, and login retention to be complete.
Desktop mode. If you need all the functions of Firefox / Thunderbird while you're actively gaming use your phone. That's what I've done since I got mine in July 2022.
@@ZaberfangX As far as I know, that can still presents problems that native support eliminates. Remember, Valve wants as many people as possible to use the Steam Deck. If a person has to do something other than download via an integrated app providing service, 90% of people won't do it.
@@MisterGiGs Yeah, but that requires that a person put away the Steam Deck. What if they are on a crowded train, or a plane? If they can just switch from a game to email, web browser, or text messages, then it becomes more user efficient. If your car can handle it, why not a Steam Deck?
I don’t own a SD at all but I’m a big fan on Valve and their business practice… compared to Nintendo they listen to their consumers, deliver decent quality specs, & constantly updates OS & hardware. I believe the SD2 will sell well.
That's because Valves Sin is Sloth. Other than their laziness they've been pretty good. Other game companies like Nintendo have worse Sins that they stand by.
The problem with valve is, as soon as your steam deck was in repair you can't access anymore you devices information in the steam deck settings. And that's wide spread issue. As I contacted steam support, all they said use this link and closed my ticket rudely. So I can't sell my steam deck, without people being able to see which version of the steam deck it is, so I could buy the oled version.
They need to fix Steam OS adoption for anti cheat. It doesn’t happen often but it is annoying when I can’t play a game on Steamdeck purely based on the anti cheat not working or banning you when you play on Steamdeck.
I hope that AMD opens their eyes to the handheld market and makes some mobile versions of their Ryzen 8000 chips. The demos at CES looked great. Lightweight versions of Windows do technically exist, Atlas is one and it has some issues on the Steam Deck, but it technically works. Microsoft's top sources of income for the past 8 years have been server / office products and cloud services. Windows only gets them 12.5% of their revenue (based on the most recent data they've gave). I think they can survive, they made nearly 200 billion last year.
I think steam os is the end product steam deck is just valve way of making this more palatable to end user open source and community driven things are making this work steam os in say 5 to 6 years from now will be really good competition to windows in gaming
Agree with Kinsey, transparent electronics FTW. I shell swapped my GBA SP after watching Jake Simmons's channel and absolutely love my transparent glacier blue color SP now. That limited edition OLED with the smoke black shell was awesome, and I wish I had the cash to buy one when it was out.
Battery tech for these handheld PCs isn't that good. Constantly upping the specs without first finding a way to get current devices to last hours longer than they currently do, will just lead to newer devices getting bigger to accommodate larger batteries for the new specs which in turn suck up more battery power. You'll just end up with a weirdly shaped laptop by the end of it.
As somebody with ogre hands, the steam deck ergonomics is perfect, even more so than my regular controllers. I would love to keep the overall shape and try to shave off the weight.
I'm guessing that some of the customers buying Windows handhelds are doing that to also get a full Windows computer, so that could also be a reason why MS isn't gonna nerf Windows for handhelds
I imagine if the last steam deck is the steam deck 2. assuming it comes out by around 2026, it would have a lifespan of of 2-4yrs, which would be 2028-30. Which is 8yrs already 8yrs from the first one. If everything tracks and pc game/app developers continue to support SteamOS(and Linux by default), it could have snowballed just enough to be competitive with whatever windows version of that time. By then, valve would just update and release SteamOS and they don't need to make any handheld themselves. I mean I remember building my own steam machine back then. Just imagine laptops and/or pre-builds with SteamOS and not just handhelds. I actually think that is valve's end goal since the time they release the steam machine. They just took and needed a longer path. Linux is great, but it's not user(consumer) friendly. While it has a lot of 3rd party support, there's almost no support coming from companies directly. So what did Valve do, or is doing? create a scenario where companies would care and notice. By increasing market share and users of linux(SteamOS), companies now are starting to support linux.
So I recently bought a cheap "PC WIRELESS GAMING RECEIVER" so I could use an old 360 controller with my computer as an extra controller. Windows 10 didn't recognize it, i had to add it as a 360 recever and manually install the drivers in devoce manager. Even worse I had to do it again for every USB port. Then I decided to try it with the docked Steam Deck, guess what... it worked instantly.
No SD lite. Keep it to one screen spec size. It’s the uniformity of the screen and the rest that makes the SD viable. Iterating on the apu for efficiency is what I want to see instead.
Theres a hilarious amount of lighting for the This Is studio. So much, that Austin's hair looks plastic and you can practically see every arm or facial hair whenever Kensey and Austin turn sideways. Plus both of them just look unnaturally pale😆😆😆
I'm loving my Steam deck OLED! I just bought a keyboard/mouse & docking station and I'm having a ball 🎉 I just wish Steam would come out with another Steam Controller so I don't have to hold the deck & dock at the same time while trying to play on the TV, that's mainly why I bought a mouse & keyboard ⌨️ 🖱️
Steam deck doesn't get sold in Australia and yet the other handheld PC's are purchasable in Australia, I find this kind of funny, steam for some reason missing out on the market share in a country they sell games in
Hey, I know a laptop or desktop computer is technically way better than a gaming handheld but is a steam deck? Or a Windows handheld worth getting and can they play most games well enough like half-life and any newer game or would it be better to spend the money and get a desktop computer because I’m trying to not spend so much money but I still want to be able to play Games and be able to know that I could play some new games if I wanted to and which gaming handheld would be the best if you recommend one
Steam deck 2 what i want is a custom chip that's power efficiently tweaked like thr original deck but from 5-35 watts based on an older 8 core zen 4 cpu but an rdna 5 32cu gpu. Default tdp is still 15 watts. A 65 watt hour battery with the same screen resolution but vrr 🤤. 2 usb 4 ports I think by then you can get much higher bandwidth usb 4 ports for external gpus. Accessorie ecosystem as well i want valve headsets and controllers so they can keep the 499.99 price point for the specs above.
I have both a Steam Deck OLED and a Legion Go, and the price point is significant between the 2, with semi similar specs and around a $200 price point difference is huge. I like Steam OS better, but Windows can run all my games, so it's a trade off.
Honestly, Steam Deck 2 can't afford to be behind on specs when it does eventually come out. Even as a person who loves their original steam deck, in a few years time when I want to upgrade, I'm a pc gamer, I never stick to just one brand, whoever is the best value for money gets my money.
They need to have a Power and graphic boosting machine base dock for a 2 so all the spaces can compete with PS5 and series X and have access to the latest games.
I just bought a steam deck... Can't go to OLED now. I couldn't go all on Linux, because of Trainers, and some mods, but! They are improving Linux more and more. Anyway I'll gonna keep more steam deck for a long time
Steam OS as a platform is really compelling to me. More hardware options....maybe Nvidia ARM. Or if Valve makes Deck an open platform for board partners and have Red and Green offerings
I think Valve should have the same target with the SD2 but with 1200p instead of 800p so maybe wait for ryzen9000 or Z2. VRR support and a turbo mode when plugged in as well would be the cherry on top. PS hope the Steam Controller 2 comes out before
had fun being matt for an episode !
You should be in front of the camera more.
Bravo, well done!
When does Matt get to be you tho?
Yes you did 🤣🤣🤣
You should do some shorts called Kinsey's Korner and just throw your opinions about random stuff idk
Oh my god, Kinsey at the desk??? ARON AT THE PRODUCER TABLE????? Dogs and cats living together!!!!
'It's pandemonium ", lol ... classic
Matt is sick because of the fireball he drank from the blinker fluid 😂
Matt is chugging cough syrup from his golf club, sunscreen bottle, and chair arm
Loved seeing kinsey here, maybe having the three at the same time would be a great idea for future this is videos
yeah def need more kinsey!
Yeah i agree 3 sounds better than 2 just like the other channel always have at least 3 of you in it and talking.
You did such a good job, Kinsey!
Not really
KINSEY AT THE FRONT DESK YIPPEEE 🎉
We need more episodes with Kinsey in front of the cameras.
If Valve can get Firefox and Thunderbird working natively on SteamOS then I'd jump for a Steam Deck. The built-in browser in Steam is atrociously bare-bones. It needs to add extensions, bookmarks, and login retention to be complete.
Desktop mode. If you need all the functions of Firefox / Thunderbird while you're actively gaming use your phone. That's what I've done since I got mine in July 2022.
can always do flatpak for Firefox and Thunderbird
@@ZaberfangX As far as I know, that can still presents problems that native support eliminates.
Remember, Valve wants as many people as possible to use the Steam Deck. If a person has to do something other than download via an integrated app providing service, 90% of people won't do it.
@@MisterGiGs Yeah, but that requires that a person put away the Steam Deck. What if they are on a crowded train, or a plane?
If they can just switch from a game to email, web browser, or text messages, then it becomes more user efficient.
If your car can handle it, why not a Steam Deck?
Need more duo videos of you two! Great vid as always!
I really liked seeing the back office in the front! It was a great and fun episode. Kinsey did a great job too!
Kensi did an excellent job, put Matt behind the camera for a while and keep Kensi in front of the camera.
@@allanlansdowne340Yes, kinsey is great, but don't get rid of Matt. Maybe have some trio episodes instead
Kinsey you did a great job! Another excellent episode everyone! Thanks all
Without "Kyle" we could have "Kayla" and "Keith" who wears long sleves under short sleeves for Ken.
Give her more screen time. This was great.
I don’t own a SD at all but I’m a big fan on Valve and their business practice… compared to Nintendo they listen to their consumers, deliver decent quality specs, & constantly updates OS & hardware. I believe the SD2 will sell well.
That's because Valves Sin is Sloth. Other than their laziness they've been pretty good. Other game companies like Nintendo have worse Sins that they stand by.
You man Valve that helped start loot boxes? Get outa here!
I hope steam deck 2 comes standard with oled screens
Or at the very least mini-led
I want a Lite/Mini and transparent colors, of course!
The problem with valve is, as soon as your steam deck was in repair you can't access anymore you devices information in the steam deck settings. And that's wide spread issue. As I contacted steam support, all they said use this link and closed my ticket rudely. So I can't sell my steam deck, without people being able to see which version of the steam deck it is, so I could buy the oled version.
What did they do to it to make you not access it and why does this matter? Sorry I’m new to this.
I don't know what they do, but it wouldn't work anymore and valve doesn't have a fix for it neither they care.
Austin and his sister make a great duo
They need to fix Steam OS adoption for anti cheat. It doesn’t happen often but it is annoying when I can’t play a game on Steamdeck purely based on the anti cheat not working or banning you when you play on Steamdeck.
OMG Kinsey needs more screen time . She is so funny and her laugh and charisma are amazing .
I hope that AMD opens their eyes to the handheld market and makes some mobile versions of their Ryzen 8000 chips. The demos at CES looked great.
Lightweight versions of Windows do technically exist, Atlas is one and it has some issues on the Steam Deck, but it technically works.
Microsoft's top sources of income for the past 8 years have been server / office products and cloud services. Windows only gets them 12.5% of their revenue (based on the most recent data they've gave). I think they can survive, they made nearly 200 billion last year.
Good job Kinsey you did great!!
I think steam os is the end product steam deck is just valve way of making this more palatable to end user open source and community driven things are making this work steam os in say 5 to 6 years from now will be really good competition to windows in gaming
Great to see kinsey at the desk ^_^ more kinsey episodes pls
I can’t imagine Microsoft catering to console experiences on competing platforms, at least not until they release a handheld of their own
Agree with Kinsey, transparent electronics FTW.
I shell swapped my GBA SP after watching Jake Simmons's channel and absolutely love my transparent glacier blue color SP now.
That limited edition OLED with the smoke black shell was awesome, and I wish I had the cash to buy one when it was out.
"You seem like you're trying to play a game, do you need help" Not Kinsey calling the new Copilot features lmaooo
These videos remind me of the early IGN network news. Love this group so much!
Battery tech for these handheld PCs isn't that good.
Constantly upping the specs without first finding a way to get current devices to last hours longer than they currently do, will just lead to newer devices getting bigger to accommodate larger batteries for the new specs which in turn suck up more battery power.
You'll just end up with a weirdly shaped laptop by the end of it.
Rip Matt!!!!!
RIP Kyle
Great video y'all, give Kinsey more screen time
The steam deck will ONLY BE WORTH IT if VR can connect to it.
As somebody with ogre hands, the steam deck ergonomics is perfect, even more so than my regular controllers. I would love to keep the overall shape and try to shave off the weight.
The “3 OS’s in a trench coat” line is so true.
This Is... Better with Kinsey on the desk!! I understand her skill set, but her personality is magnetic 🧲🧲🧲
I'm guessing that some of the customers buying Windows handhelds are doing that to also get a full Windows computer, so that could also be a reason why MS isn't gonna nerf Windows for handhelds
2:22
A light version Windows ?
Are we going in back to windows 7 lite on notebooks in 2010? 😃
Damn, that CES health tech really worked its magic, Matt's lookin hella fine
You did great Kinsey! 👍
Is steam deck lite, not just the switch OLED? 🤔🤷🏽♂️
Great show.. she needs to be in more!
Austin
What ever happened with the alienware ufo project
I would love for them to release it ...
Love all you guys, but really love seeing a rare Kinsey feature! (Austin, Matt, we need more of this! )👀😎
11:30 Years ago-during the push for netbooks and then UMPCs-Microsoft offered OEMs free Windows licenses for devices with screens smaller than 9"
what was that 5:57
You take off your shirt one time, and Kinsey steps in 😤
Perplexed look 👀
How can they make Steam Deck 2, if PC 2 is not even out yet?
4:15 Aron..... you're a Tyler/Valve News Network fan aren't you
had to do it when were making a whole video about Valve lol
@@AronFromThisIsheheh nice. And Kinsey said speculation, you kinda had to do it!
I like matt but I wanna see Kinsey at the table more.
also, I would love to make a steam OS PC, kind of like the steam boxes of days old.
I think Switch 2 will be released in September this year?
yay! Kinsey! so did give Kinsey a raise?
I miss Matt's intro but I'm not mad at Kinsey!
I was NOT ready for the Kinsey intro. 🔥😅
You knew this was coming.... KINSEY NEEDS MORE CAMERA TIME. Make a third seat or give her a channel. She's awesome.
Devils advocate here: the Zen 4 chip being out of date by the time this comes out also means there will be more support/optimizations for the chip
I imagine if the last steam deck is the steam deck 2. assuming it comes out by around 2026, it would have a lifespan of of 2-4yrs, which would be 2028-30. Which is 8yrs already 8yrs from the first one. If everything tracks and pc game/app developers continue to support SteamOS(and Linux by default), it could have snowballed just enough to be competitive with whatever windows version of that time. By then, valve would just update and release SteamOS and they don't need to make any handheld themselves. I mean I remember building my own steam machine back then. Just imagine laptops and/or pre-builds with SteamOS and not just handhelds.
I actually think that is valve's end goal since the time they release the steam machine. They just took and needed a longer path. Linux is great, but it's not user(consumer) friendly. While it has a lot of 3rd party support, there's almost no support coming from companies directly. So what did Valve do, or is doing? create a scenario where companies would care and notice. By increasing market share and users of linux(SteamOS), companies now are starting to support linux.
Now..... Request to have Matt and Kinsey show. It will be an interesting video! Lol!
is that tajador?
yes it is !
@KinseyFromThisIs that's why ir hair is a bit like Ankh, and it's sooo cool tho, wish I could pull it off, but I tried and looked bad on me
When the steam deck came out it was bleeding edge for a handheld specs...
12:18 I was under the impression that Nintendo doesn't sell their hardware at a loss
Austin rocking the Whataburger collar. A ref that will flop except in the south.
So I recently bought a cheap "PC WIRELESS GAMING RECEIVER" so I could use an old 360 controller with my computer as an extra controller. Windows 10 didn't recognize it, i had to add it as a 360 recever and manually install the drivers in devoce manager. Even worse I had to do it again for every USB port. Then I decided to try it with the docked Steam Deck, guess what... it worked instantly.
I'm all for more Kinz. Kinz up my life plz.
Need more Aron+Kinsey
No SD lite. Keep it to one screen spec size. It’s the uniformity of the screen and the rest that makes the SD viable. Iterating on the apu for efficiency is what I want to see instead.
Matt was so good in the episode
If Microsoft made big picture mode do you think it will just be
XBOX big picture mode?
Is that TaJaDor sticker on the laptop!?
you bet !
at this point austin just do a podcast again but with everyone in the office
Theres a hilarious amount of lighting for the This Is studio. So much, that Austin's hair looks plastic and you can practically see every arm or facial hair whenever Kensey and Austin turn sideways. Plus both of them just look unnaturally pale😆😆😆
@4:59 dude why are your eyes so RED? Doesnt austin let you sleep?
You cant tell me cloning technology isnt in use today.
I'm loving my Steam deck OLED! I just bought a keyboard/mouse & docking station and I'm having a ball 🎉
I just wish Steam would come out with another Steam Controller so I don't have to hold the deck & dock at the same time while trying to play on the TV, that's mainly why I bought a mouse & keyboard ⌨️ 🖱️
Steam deck doesn't get sold in Australia and yet the other handheld PC's are purchasable in Australia, I find this kind of funny, steam for some reason missing out on the market share in a country they sell games in
Hey, I know a laptop or desktop computer is technically way better than a gaming handheld but is a steam deck? Or a Windows handheld worth getting and can they play most games well enough like half-life and any newer game or would it be better to spend the money and get a desktop computer because I’m trying to not spend so much money but I still want to be able to play Games and be able to know that I could play some new games if I wanted to and which gaming handheld would be the best if you recommend one
Steam deck 2 what i want is a custom chip that's power efficiently tweaked like thr original deck but from 5-35 watts based on an older 8 core zen 4 cpu but an rdna 5 32cu gpu. Default tdp is still 15 watts. A 65 watt hour battery with the same screen resolution but vrr 🤤. 2 usb 4 ports I think by then you can get much higher bandwidth usb 4 ports for external gpus. Accessorie ecosystem as well i want valve headsets and controllers so they can keep the 499.99 price point for the specs above.
we need more kinsey! also colorways needs to be a thing with valve
Kinsey should get Desk time more often, I like me some neon hair!
I have both a Steam Deck OLED and a Legion Go, and the price point is significant between the 2, with semi similar specs and around a $200 price point difference is huge. I like Steam OS better, but Windows can run all my games, so it's a trade off.
Honestly, Steam Deck 2 can't afford to be behind on specs when it does eventually come out.
Even as a person who loves their original steam deck, in a few years time when I want to upgrade, I'm a pc gamer, I never stick to just one brand, whoever is the best value for money gets my money.
Microsoft used to have a big picture mode, was on the old Media Center addon, something like that in the newer Windos would be awesome,
MOAR KINSEY!!!!!
Why do you want a smaller screen? Just optimise the grip for big and small Hands!
OH shit. Logic really did give up on rap. This suits him better. Good luck bro
This Matt is great!
8:45 bring back steam machine but at a cost
They need to have a Power and graphic boosting machine base dock for a 2 so all the spaces can compete with PS5 and series X and have access to the latest games.
Matt is sick because he drank too much blinker fluid
Kinsey is pretty. . . good at the front desk 👉👈🥺
I just bought a steam deck... Can't go to OLED now. I couldn't go all on Linux, because of Trainers, and some mods, but! They are improving Linux more and more. Anyway I'll gonna keep more steam deck for a long time
Steam OS as a platform is really compelling to me. More hardware options....maybe Nvidia ARM. Or if Valve makes Deck an open platform for board partners and have Red and Green offerings
I think Valve should have the same target with the SD2 but with 1200p instead of 800p so maybe wait for ryzen9000 or Z2. VRR support and a turbo mode when plugged in as well would be the cherry on top.
PS hope the Steam Controller 2 comes out before
I like this format of nerds being nerds about nerd things anot more, sorry matt
Best 'This Is' episode ever! Now they just need to replace Austin with just about anyone/anything and it would be perfect.
we got steam deck 2's specs before GTA VI
I thought Steam Deck OLED was basically a Steam Deck 2?
more like a pro steam deck, Valve said they may make a pro like 2 years ago it's what we have now
If microsoft would really make a windows light version, no one would use the original ‘heavy’ version anymore 😂
The first one was always the prototype and the 2nd one, the revision, would always be the finish product. 😁
Good discussion 👌
To be honest I turned to the stream deck for my handheld pc gaming as I prefer not to hold a thermal throttling brick (Asus Rog Ally)