It would be pretty cool to see a live stream sometime after things have tamed a bit. The idea being that you can talk about the things you want to test, learn about, prove, etc.... And everyone can listen and understand what you're going to test, why, how. It's always good to have a place to bounce ideas off, even if it's just someone to listen to and figure anything out that you want help with. Needless to say, I am certain you know what you're doing, I'm excited to see what's next in the series and what you have planned!
My two Ziis Bio Filters have been running for a month now. They work great. Keep on testing Man.....lots of people are following this. You are doing something awesome here.
I think this is awesome. There will always be variables, this isn’t a professional scientific study going on here My only suggestion........ don’t justify yourself and what you are doing to those who can only criticize you to tear you down You made a lot of good points but with too many extra nonsense words it becomes a bit more difficult to follow along. I love your enthusiasm and I love experimentation Ps....... “k I s s”
You proved yourself from the first vid. I think most people don't come from a scientific background. I myself do. The ziss stuff works!! My question would be how does the mature moving bed filter compare by volume to a sponge of equal maturity in same size, stocked, fed tanks. Woykd be interesting to see how fast ammonia is dealt with, when ziss is mature and brown
Firstly, again I will say, nice job. I'm glad to see you actually test things and it really helps me out. When I heard you say you were adding the sponge back I perked up and had a thought about what you were planning, but the video and what you did totally made sense. I thought you would test the 2ppm with the sponge, then remove it and test again without, to see how the performance changed. I Honestly, I thought your first video was simply testing how much ammonia was being produced by the food and it was a baseline for you to use on phase 2 testing. Leaving the shrimp, testing levels after you added the ziss, it was a bonus test of opportunity, but didn't seem like it was the entire point of your first test. Anyways! Looking forward to what is next. Keep it up, stay positive, try not to let negativity get you down. You're doing a great job.
Well there shouldn't be any debate whether or not it works. Sponge filters work, moving bed filters work so a combination of the two will work. The real question is does it work any better than a simple sponge filter. I personally don't care if it works better, I got one because it was something different and I liked the novelty and price.
I think it would be better with fish in a established cycled tank, initial test immediately before a water change with no ziss, only a sponge filter, a week later right before a water change test again, do that for 2 weeks, and then after the second test and water change, add the ziss and repeat the same regiment of test change for 2 weeks, and compare the results, just make sure that during this time, add the same amount of food every time you feed, that should give you the best chance to measure the ziss.
AL Janecko , cool, you should do that then and upload the video for us He thinks it’s best to do it this way based on the resources he has available to him.
That is difficult to give you an exact count on how many fish would produce 2ppm ammonia. You could keep hundreds of lets say tetras in this tank and it really comes down to the amount of food going into the system and water change schedule. In my first video that is what i was attempting to explain with how much food fish eat and then how much waste they produce.
"fish" is a general term, but it makes more sense to think of the ammonia only as a waste. If X produced .01 ppm of ammonia per day then it would be a relatively high number of fish to get to 2.0ppm. If it was a fish higher up the food chain it would produce more. 0-.25ppm is usually considered the safe threshold and anything above that is really bad for the fish. That being said, anything above 0 is also considered bad and usually you will be told to change water until the tank is cycled and able to handle the load.
Your doing a great job man. Let me take some heat off of you here. I believe under gravel filters are just as good as any other filters out there if use properly. There let the trolls hate on me for a bit. Your kicking booty love the channel.
Alright that was clever! I have actually been wanting to experiment with under gravel filters. I do think they work! I have an idea that I heard but can't remember where exactly of installing a bulkhead in the bottom of a tank and using an undergravel filter. that way you can open a valve attached to the bulk head and do a water change but at the same time potentially remove all the debri the filter has pulled.
Ya they do the bulkhead system in the giant warehouse in Germany. Think aquirum co op or flip aquatics cant remeber who did that video. Tell you the truth never had a problem with too much mulm build up in under gravel love stem plants and let the roots just suck it all up. Once I have black worm colony in one work alright.
@Weldon Aquatics Nice Work Keep It up you doing great stay + . You help me change my 29gal n switch to a 55gal I got 2Z filter n 1 sponge filter on my 55 gal my plants are great my water condition is great now It took me years to balance it out my water level that I need it too be. My fishes are Active, with colors and growing. (2 Months In )🐠👍🐠👍🙌🙌🙌
If you get lucky a google search will tell you. You can follow Petco on facebook but you will need to watch the ads. If you are involved in any forums that seems to be when I find good information.
This test is flawed too. By adding the prefilter sponge you're just lending credence to the idea that the prefilter is doing all the work and the moving bed is just for show. The simplest and most optimal test would be to use an air pump that is rated for a 40-gallon tank(just like the rating for the Bubble Bio), remove the prefilter sponge(because its purpose is to supposed to stop debris from entering the fluidized bed) and just run it in a tank with a lot of ammonia and test if it cycles. If it cycles that means there is evidence that the fluidized bed is working. You're really just convincing me that the Bubble Bio is a scam.
I really convinced you to watch the video, when you decide to put the time and effort into testing we will see if your test is flawed or not based upon others opinions.
@@WeldonTanks I haven't made a claim that the prefilter sponge does all the work; rather, I have no reason not to believe that it is doing most of the work due to how we've proven that sponges do harbor beneficial bacteria. From my standpoint it is you who must convince me that the fluidized bed is actually doing anything substantial. I see no reason at this point that a regular sponge filter wouldn't perform the same if not better than this. I think Joey's calculations hold up, unless someone produces data that convinces me otherwise.
So many exuses about this filter... if u use additional filter, if u have a lot of plants bla bla bla it will work great!! Just say it! It´s a useless filter period...it doesent take care of ammonia, nitrite or nitrate effectively!
Mostly I skipped to the end trying to find the test results. The rest is fluff and just info about his decision to test blah blah blah. Pt 3? Results only, thanks
We continue the testing of the Ziss Filter. I plan on running extensive tests of this filter over months to really see what we can come up with.
It would be pretty cool to see a live stream sometime after things have tamed a bit. The idea being that you can talk about the things you want to test, learn about, prove, etc.... And everyone can listen and understand what you're going to test, why, how. It's always good to have a place to bounce ideas off, even if it's just someone to listen to and figure anything out that you want help with. Needless to say, I am certain you know what you're doing, I'm excited to see what's next in the series and what you have planned!
@@nabokovfan87 That is a good idea! And I am always open to suggestions.
My two Ziis Bio Filters have been running for a month now. They work great. Keep on testing Man.....lots of people are following this. You are doing something awesome here.
great work young man, would like to see how these filters work and stop beating yourself up at least you are trying
I think this is awesome.
There will always be variables, this isn’t a professional scientific study going on here
My only suggestion........ don’t justify yourself and what you are doing to those who can only criticize you to tear you down
You made a lot of good points but with too many extra nonsense words it becomes a bit more difficult to follow along.
I love your enthusiasm and I love experimentation
Ps....... “k I s s”
You are right, when I was editing it I realized I rambled way to long.
Good follow up Weldon. Keep on scapin 👍
You proved yourself from the first vid. I think most people don't come from a scientific background.
I myself do. The ziss stuff works!!
My question would be how does the mature moving bed filter compare by volume to a sponge of equal maturity in same size, stocked, fed tanks.
Woykd be interesting to see how fast ammonia is dealt with, when ziss is mature and brown
I agree, I am curious to run more of this testing cycle in lets say 6 months to see if it does make a difference.
Firstly, again I will say, nice job. I'm glad to see you actually test things and it really helps me out.
When I heard you say you were adding the sponge back I perked up and had a thought about what you were planning, but the video and what you did totally made sense. I thought you would test the 2ppm with the sponge, then remove it and test again without, to see how the performance changed. I
Honestly, I thought your first video was simply testing how much ammonia was being produced by the food and it was a baseline for you to use on phase 2 testing. Leaving the shrimp, testing levels after you added the ziss, it was a bonus test of opportunity, but didn't seem like it was the entire point of your first test.
Anyways! Looking forward to what is next. Keep it up, stay positive, try not to let negativity get you down. You're doing a great job.
Well there shouldn't be any debate whether or not it works. Sponge filters work, moving bed filters work so a combination of the two will work. The real question is does it work any better than a simple sponge filter. I personally don't care if it works better, I got one because it was something different and I liked the novelty and price.
Watching the media tumble is fun too.
I think it was a brilliant idea to produce smaller beads by the ziss company.
Run it just barely breaking the surface of the water, not half way down in the tank. It will be quieter and use less air.
Don't let any comments get you discouraged.
I think it would be better with fish in a established cycled tank, initial test immediately before a water change with no ziss, only a sponge filter, a week later right before a water change test again, do that for 2 weeks, and then after the second test and water change, add the ziss and repeat the same regiment of test change for 2 weeks, and compare the results, just make sure that during this time, add the same amount of food every time you feed, that should give you the best chance to measure the ziss.
If you end up running that series of test let me know your results.
AL Janecko , cool, you should do that then and upload the video for us
He thinks it’s best to do it this way based on the resources he has available to him.
Marcie SoCal I’m not ripping him in any way, calm down, I was only thinking of different ways to do it to appease the haters.
That is already proven. The Bubble Bio can handle that kind of test just fine, it is a question of whether or not the prefilter is doing all the work.
Makes sense Evan.
Thanks for doing a follow up on the Ziss filter. 2 ppm of ammonia is roughly how many fishes in this tank setup?
That is difficult to give you an exact count on how many fish would produce 2ppm ammonia. You could keep hundreds of lets say tetras in this tank and it really comes down to the amount of food going into the system and water change schedule. In my first video that is what i was attempting to explain with how much food fish eat and then how much waste they produce.
"fish" is a general term, but it makes more sense to think of the ammonia only as a waste. If X produced .01 ppm of ammonia per day then it would be a relatively high number of fish to get to 2.0ppm. If it was a fish higher up the food chain it would produce more. 0-.25ppm is usually considered the safe threshold and anything above that is really bad for the fish. That being said, anything above 0 is also considered bad and usually you will be told to change water until the tank is cycled and able to handle the load.
Your doing a great job man. Let me take some heat off of you here. I believe under gravel filters are just as good as any other filters out there if use properly. There let the trolls hate on me for a bit. Your kicking booty love the channel.
Alright that was clever! I have actually been wanting to experiment with under gravel filters. I do think they work! I have an idea that I heard but can't remember where exactly of installing a bulkhead in the bottom of a tank and using an undergravel filter. that way you can open a valve attached to the bulk head and do a water change but at the same time potentially remove all the debri the filter has pulled.
Ya they do the bulkhead system in the giant warehouse in Germany. Think aquirum co op or flip aquatics cant remeber who did that video. Tell you the truth never had a problem with too much mulm build up in under gravel love stem plants and let the roots just suck it all up. Once I have black worm colony in one work alright.
That is an interesting thought there, using heavy root feeders to eat the nutrients . It makes complete sense as we do it in other applications.
Not if you like plants. Under gravels were retarded 50 years ago and still are IMO
What tank size is that?
It is a standard 20 gallon tank.
Subbed! Keep testing!
Where u brought it at?
I bought it from Petco on the dollar per gallon sale
@Weldon Aquatics Nice Work Keep It up you doing great stay + . You help me change my 29gal n switch to a 55gal I got 2Z filter n 1 sponge filter on my 55 gal my plants are great my water condition is great now It took me years to balance it out my water level that I need it too be. My fishes are Active, with colors and growing. (2 Months In )🐠👍🐠👍🙌🙌🙌
Thank you And Keep it Up
Glad that transition worked out for you! Thank you for your continued support
Always Team Weldon Aquatics 🐡👍 The Ziss filter Really Work Fish People 🤩👍 (2 Months In) And Getting 3More for my other tanks 💪🐟
@@davidramos1470 With the smaller version coming out I am trying to get my hands on one early, that is really going to open the market.
Really Can’t Wait I’m Going To Get Like 6 Of Them 🤩👍 Small Z Filter🐟🐠🐡
I’m setting up a 20 gallon quarantine tank
i think you are watching too mych of the king of diy
A sponge the same size has less than half the bio capacity I'd bet.
Sponge does carry many benefits but the fluidized media holds an incredible amount of bacteria
How can I tell when petco have $1 per gallon sale?
If you get lucky a google search will tell you. You can follow Petco on facebook but you will need to watch the ads. If you are involved in any forums that seems to be when I find good information.
First
Now let watch it ..
This test is flawed too. By adding the prefilter sponge you're just lending credence to the idea that the prefilter is doing all the work and the moving bed is just for show. The simplest and most optimal test would be to use an air pump that is rated for a 40-gallon tank(just like the rating for the Bubble Bio), remove the prefilter sponge(because its purpose is to supposed to stop debris from entering the fluidized bed) and just run it in a tank with a lot of ammonia and test if it cycles. If it cycles that means there is evidence that the fluidized bed is working.
You're really just convincing me that the Bubble Bio is a scam.
I really convinced you to watch the video, when you decide to put the time and effort into testing we will see if your test is flawed or not based upon others opinions.
@@WeldonTanks I haven't made a claim that the prefilter sponge does all the work; rather, I have no reason not to believe that it is doing most of the work due to how we've proven that sponges do harbor beneficial bacteria. From my standpoint it is you who must convince me that the fluidized bed is actually doing anything substantial.
I see no reason at this point that a regular sponge filter wouldn't perform the same if not better than this. I think Joey's calculations hold up, unless someone produces data that convinces me otherwise.
So many exuses about this filter... if u use additional filter, if u have a lot of plants bla bla bla it will work great!! Just say it! It´s a useless filter period...it doesent take care of ammonia, nitrite or nitrate effectively!
aaaheim No you can’t make me say it....I won’t say it....lol still got you to watch the video though!
Is that why so many professionals use fluidized filter beds?
Mostly I skipped to the end trying to find the test results. The rest is fluff and just info about his decision to test blah blah blah. Pt 3? Results only, thanks
Agreed. Too much rambling. Need to get straight to results
Google suck lol