I followed your video and fabricated a short piece of 6 inch stove pipe to connect to the 6 inch steel liner inside my brick chimney it worked perfectly. Thank you once again.
This is what should have been taught in school. I will definitely show my daughter this. I always maintained what we learned I. School was not practical. You, however. That's an entirely different story. Putting mathematics where it's needed. I recently learned trigonometry then proceeded to work out the formulas on spread sheets. I'm making some frames from discarded fencing posts and have made some jigs to cut with a cold cut saw. Well done and thanks for uploading.
@@wesliebegay828 I self learn from everything I do. Also done by trial and error. I guess even when I was young I wanted to find out things for myself.
For this type of fit up only the bottom drawing is needed , the top drawing is only needed to draw the side profile for diagram purpose , to make the template simple use the bottom diagram
The "numbers to space them apart" are arrived by equally dividing the arc segment into 4 equal parts, creating 5 points. A quick down and dirty way to fit a couple of pipes together, especially small like 2", is to nip the 2 opposite edges of a 90 degree pipe end off at about 45 degrees. Don't cut quite all the way to the center line on those cuts. Try on a couple of scrap pieces. A minute of clean up with a 4" grinder will have those pieces fit up and ready to weld!! Of course a 2" hole saw in a still press is also a quick easy way to note a pipe for fit up! Dave
I would definitely have to try that out! We do have a bandsaw, but we've got to use a cutting torch for this project. Thanks for taking the time to reply, Dave!
Not actually watching you lay it out, review if you're using inside or outside diameters of the pipe being laid out. An excellent resource on pipe and sheetmetal layout is "Sheet Metal" by Leo Meyer- Dave
To get a more accurate template, you can simply take the O.D. 3.5 * pie / 16 = 10.9956 / 16 = .6872. Use this as the measurement from the last step before extending the lines upward. Using the compass between the points on the O.D. introduces the error which is why the length came out shorter than it should have. Good information
Did you take the length of the outside diameter to do the final cut layout. Like where the line for 1 intersects with the outside diameter of the 3 inch pipe. You added the 1/4 for the outside diameter but u dint measure from the ouside of it but from the inside diameter. I dont know if you understand me.
I know that the numbers 1-5 have to be equally spaced, but where did you get the numbers to space them apart? It'd be great if you explained that, my welding class (in high school) has to make saddle cuts to fit two 2" pipes together. Although we have to figure that out ourselves, so I'm trying to look for techniques to help.
He simply used the Compass to automatically space them apart removing the need to measure anything. Your compass is what you are measuring with. If you want number measurements invest in a Pipe Fitters hand book.
hello friend great video , im just curious , it seems to me that you provide a sequence of steps that can be skipped . the step where you cross hare the points seems as though its not necessary as the over head view provides this info . now maybe if it wasnt a 90 degree saddle i could see the need but it seems the over head view generates the needed dimensions. brother im not nocking your work at all im simply attempting to remove confusion from my own mind as i cannot under stand why we would use these extra steps on a t saddle . i laid out a tangent connection using your method and discover i didnt need to use these extra steps , maybe there is something im missing
Does the centres of the 2 circles have to be on the same vertical line on the graph paper. Yours don’t appear to be but I’m thinking it’s the camera angle making them appear not lined up ? Thank you for this video I’m anxious to try it out.
Hey Dave another great video I was just wandering couldn't you just use the bottom diagram (top view) and just measure the segments off the perpendicular line to make the unequal tee? I love seeing other techniques which I don't use completely great,I still would love to see your technique for a rectangle to round transition
I don't know what I'm missing but I'm following your tutorial to the T using smaller pipes and in the end it comes out dramatically wrong every time no matter how many times i try it, even with different diameter pipes.... Anyone please help...
Hi folk, please, visit www.etubespro.com where you will find a really practical method for saddle templates for tubes/pipes of any size and thickness intersecting any other tubes/pipes at any angle. It works with offsets. It takes only a few minutes to set up the 3D model and see exactly how the connection looks like. Templates are generated in DXF / DWG format and then printed at real scale. This approach is frankly cheaper than any other method. There is no need for any fancy software nor sophisticated equipment to achieve always a perfect fit and welding!.
Dave thank you so much for this video, I have been looking for this for a while. I teach pipefitting in Houston. Could you show how to develop a dummy leg coming off a 90°ELL
Good question- On a 90 degree, the top 1/4 segment is the same as the bottom. (Each 1/4 section is the same.) On a , say, a 45 degree wye, the top and bottom are different, thus the need to layout extra segments to accommodate the template.....
Hi great video! I have been looking everywhere for the triangle ruler you that you use here and seem to not find none. Where would be the best place to get one?
Tim Prichard I found one thanks! Now the fade out paper is what I’m having trouble finding. I’m looking for one that is at least 24” in width. I do you have a link to the one you have?
Yes, but with pipe of the same diameter, templates and be commonly bought for smaller diameter pipe, if so desired... The above process is excellent for pipe coneections of different sizes! Dave
Thanks, I learnt it years ago while I was an apprentice and have forgotten how to do it for 90 degree joins. So if both pipes are 150 diameter it’s the same menthod as you’ve shown, do I still use the ID or the OD measurement
Could you do this video again with more explanation and detail. Because I'm still not quite getting it. I weld ss pipe for a living and we don't have good templates for cutting pipe and I want to learn to make Templates for saddling the pipe
hi I was wondering, is this like another version of an unequal "T"? I work with sheet metal and it seems like the same scenario but you did it a different way.
+Dave Osland an unequal Tee is a "T" of two pipes intersects. but the pipes are of different sizes . your videos are great, I enjoyed that square to round video you posted . helped me impress some of the guys at work
I think these videos are great ... would you consider showing how to use parallel lines to make more complex shapes. I have and book called sheet metal problems by james daugherty and they show you how to make skylights. The drawings are a bit confusing.
Excellent but I'm kind of confused on how to create a template for the hole in the header. When you find some time maybe you would create a video for that?keep up the good work!
dude you gotta slow down and explain things a little better . what measurement are you using and where did you get the numbers. we are not engineers or drafters and do not have scale rules.
Wait...did this guy just suggest people take remedial courses in math? Wow! 4.5 minutes into the video, and I can't believe he still hasn't explained something that should have been fairly simple. Clearly, his main objective was to exhibit his drafting skills.
Toby Andy On smaller pipe, one can usually use the cut pipe to layout the hole. If time allows, I'll do a video showing the hole layout using line development- Dave
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I followed your video and fabricated a short piece of 6 inch stove pipe to connect to the 6 inch steel liner inside my brick chimney it worked perfectly. Thank you once again.
This is what should have been taught in school. I will definitely show my daughter this. I always maintained what we learned I. School was not practical. You, however. That's an entirely different story. Putting mathematics where it's needed. I recently learned trigonometry then proceeded to work out the formulas on spread sheets. I'm making some frames from discarded fencing posts and have made some jigs to cut with a cold cut saw. Well done and thanks for uploading.
Starts with drafting classes.
@@wesliebegay828 I self learn from everything I do. Also done by trial and error. I guess even when I was young I wanted to find out things for myself.
Great video and thank you for taking time to make all these great layout videos .
Nice video.
It's helpful for me & helpful for others like me.
Finally, someone who can dumb it down enough for me to understand 😁😁👍👍👍
Realy so nice vdo v v helpfull for new trainee of pipe fabrication work
ur videos are awesome sir , thanks for sharing your ideas of layouts.
For this type of fit up only the bottom drawing is needed , the top drawing is only needed to draw the side profile for diagram purpose , to make the template simple use the bottom diagram
The "numbers to space them apart" are arrived by equally dividing the arc segment into 4 equal parts, creating 5 points.
A quick down and dirty way to fit a couple of pipes together, especially small like 2", is to nip the 2 opposite edges of a 90 degree pipe end off at about 45 degrees. Don't cut quite all the way to the center line on those cuts. Try on a couple of scrap pieces. A minute of clean up with a 4" grinder will have those pieces fit up and ready to weld!!
Of course a 2" hole saw in a still press is also a quick easy way to note a pipe for fit up!
Dave
I would definitely have to try that out! We do have a bandsaw, but we've got to use a cutting torch for this project. Thanks for taking the time to reply, Dave!
Thankyou for the video but I was wondering how you ran the lines upward to connect the numbers. From bottom to top if that makes sense
fantastic videos!
It's valuable these technical drawings
Really helpful.
Thank you
Glad you found it helpful!
Dave
Not actually watching you lay it out, review if you're using inside or outside diameters of the pipe being laid out.
An excellent resource on pipe and sheetmetal layout is "Sheet Metal" by Leo Meyer- Dave
To get a more accurate template, you can simply take the O.D. 3.5 * pie / 16 = 10.9956 / 16 = .6872. Use this as the measurement from the last step before extending the lines upward. Using the compass between the points on the O.D. introduces the error which is why the length came out shorter than it should have. Good information
Did you take the length of the outside diameter to do the final cut layout. Like where the line for 1 intersects with the outside diameter of the 3 inch pipe. You added the 1/4 for the outside diameter but u dint measure from the ouside of it but from the inside diameter. I dont know if you understand me.
Why do you draw the outside dimentions on the bigger pipe but the inside on the smaller pipe?
I know that the numbers 1-5 have to be equally spaced, but where did you get the numbers to space them apart? It'd be great if you explained that, my welding class (in high school) has to make saddle cuts to fit two 2" pipes together. Although we have to figure that out ourselves, so I'm trying to look for techniques to help.
He simply used the Compass to automatically space them apart removing the need to measure anything. Your compass is what you are measuring with. If you want number measurements invest in a Pipe Fitters hand book.
Thanks for answering it clarified everything. Is it possible if you have time to do a video on how to make a template for the hole. Many thanks.
Frank Alvarez try this video.
ua-cam.com/video/xR-PTmsgvwQ/v-deo.html
hello friend great video , im just curious , it seems to me that you provide a sequence of steps that can be skipped . the step where you cross hare the points seems as though its not necessary as the over head view provides this info . now maybe if it wasnt a 90 degree saddle i could see the need but it seems the over head view generates the needed dimensions. brother im not nocking your work at all im simply attempting to remove confusion from my own mind as i cannot under stand why we would use these extra steps on a t saddle . i laid out a tangent connection using your method and discover i didnt need to use these extra steps , maybe there is something im missing
Does the centres of the 2 circles have to be on the same vertical line on the graph paper. Yours don’t appear to be but I’m thinking it’s the camera angle making them appear not lined up ? Thank you for this video I’m anxious to try it out.
They are lined up...
Can you do a 3 way Elbow pipe , basically a 90 degree and then another pipe peice facing upward
Did you draw the 4" pipe ID or OD
Amazing Sir, I work with Ac And i usually saw duct people working with that , this is very interesting, thank
Thank you kindly, sir. You are right, this is very valuable to know. This is money.
Hey Dave another great video I was just wandering couldn't you just use the bottom diagram (top view) and just measure the segments off the perpendicular line to make the unequal tee? I love seeing other techniques which I don't use completely great,I still would love to see your technique for a rectangle to round transition
Does this technique work on a 90 degree elbow?
On your overhead view, the pipe endo mark does not line up with the side view endo. Does this matter?
I don't know what I'm missing but I'm following your tutorial to the T using smaller pipes and in the end it comes out dramatically wrong every time no matter how many times i try it, even with different diameter pipes.... Anyone please help...
Hi Dave can you do a concentric 45 lateral layout video it’s driving me nuts trying to figure it out? Please thank you 🙏
Hi folk, please, visit www.etubespro.com where you will find a really practical method for saddle templates for tubes/pipes of any size and thickness intersecting any other tubes/pipes at any angle. It works with offsets. It takes only a few minutes to set up the 3D model and see exactly how the connection looks like. Templates are generated in DXF / DWG format and then printed at real scale.
This approach is frankly cheaper than any other method. There is no need for any fancy software nor sophisticated equipment to achieve always a perfect fit and welding!.
Quick question, can't you just grab the dimensions from the top view instead of transferring them to a side view?
Is there need for a side view?
is there a computer software program/app that I can enter my dimensions into and get that wave?
i do insulation method is the same but we use something is simplier more easy to understand
Dave thank you so much for this video, I have been looking for this for a while. I teach pipefitting in Houston. Could you show how to develop a dummy leg coming off a 90°ELL
Excuse my ignorance, but why in this video were the segments divided into 5 and the others into 9. Thanks
Good question-
On a 90 degree, the top 1/4 segment is the same as the bottom. (Each 1/4 section is the same.) On a , say, a 45 degree wye, the top and bottom are different, thus the need to layout extra segments to accommodate the template.....
hello sir very good job.sir can you share me how to make pattern and what formula using for eccentric dummy bottom flat? wish u reply me
Hi great video! I have been looking everywhere for the triangle ruler you that you use here and seem to not find none. Where would be the best place to get one?
It's an architectural ruler, you can find one at office depot.
Tim Prichard I found one thanks! Now the fade out paper is what I’m having trouble finding. I’m looking for one that is at least 24” in width. I do you have a link to the one you have?
Is this the same for joining 2 pipes that are the same diameter?
Yes, but with pipe of the same diameter, templates and be commonly bought for smaller diameter pipe,
if so desired...
The above process is excellent for pipe coneections of different sizes!
Dave
Thanks, I learnt it years ago while I was an apprentice and have forgotten how to do it for 90 degree joins. So if both pipes are 150 diameter it’s the same menthod as you’ve shown, do I still use the ID or the OD measurement
A... 150 diameter?@@callumtonks5
@@daveosland3199 150mm diameter for example
I use the I.D.@@callumtonks5
is not needed to make the first transition patten, you can use the secound one only and from it transfer the lines to develop the tamplate.
Could you do this video again with more explanation and detail. Because I'm still not quite getting it. I weld ss pipe for a living and we don't have good templates for cutting pipe and I want to learn to make Templates for saddling the pipe
excellent sir,,,what a easy way to draw a template.....
what about eccentric reducer template waiting for that one?
+Muhammad Saeed
Hi- I assume you want to make an offset reducer piece, as in a sheet metal fitting?
Hello sir,
thanks for your time,
yes sir the center point will be different for both end
Muhammad Saeed i just loaded a transition template for offset top and bottom-
Dave
+Dave Osland awesome!
hi I was wondering, is this like another version of an unequal "T"? I work with sheet metal and it seems like the same scenario but you did it a different way.
+808kea808 I'm not sure what is meant by an "unequal" T, but this technique will work with other angles of a saddle/branch connection...
+Dave Osland an unequal Tee is a "T" of two pipes intersects. but the pipes are of different sizes . your videos are great, I enjoyed that square to round video you posted . helped me impress some of the guys at work
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Hye... How to make template for hole on pipe?
I think these videos are great ... would you consider showing how to use parallel lines to make more complex shapes. I have and book called sheet metal problems by james daugherty and they show you how to make skylights. The drawings are a bit confusing.
thanks Dave!
thanks Dave
i did this absolutely perfectly the way he presented it but it doesn't work when the pipes are the same diameter. what gives?
Excellent but I'm kind of confused on how to create a template for the hole in the header. When you find some time maybe you would create a video for that?keep up the good work!
Punch the header, and draw a circle with your compass it's that simple
Bang on
dude you gotta slow down and explain things a little better . what measurement are you using and where did you get the numbers. we are not engineers or drafters and do not have scale rules.
yeah i'm trying to do this on sketchup make and my template is WAY off. I wish someone on the internet had a better explanation
Thanks
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that's cool!!!
thanks sir.
whoever discovered this relationship in mathematics must have been a savant
thanks
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3" into 4". Not the other way around.
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First of all draw ID or OD of pipe
Wait...did this guy just suggest people take remedial courses in math? Wow! 4.5 minutes into the video, and I can't believe he still hasn't explained something that should have been fairly simple. Clearly, his main objective was to exhibit his drafting skills.
WATH ABOUT THE HOLE
Toby Andy On smaller pipe, one can usually use the cut pipe to layout the hole.
If time allows, I'll do a video showing the hole layout using line development-
Dave
Sir I love your way of explaining please can I have the video of dish and tank cone . Thanks
At least make your lines straight