@@GRIMHOOD99 Yee haha i rounded up for sure, but 125m is still insane and yes especially in '09, thats like a tbow today, I remember killing green dragons in lvl 20 wildy for 2 weeks straight to buy a bgs for 30m LOL
@@RandyPKsNubs I mean 5M difference on so poorly updated market like ge at item with this low of a volume is literally nothing. Yeah in 09 that is crazy money.
1:16 opponent - mage robes, general mage gear vs Torvesta - Veracs. The fact you completely out hit him and landed the spec shows how broken the game is
its funny because apparently mobile games is the biggest gaming market out there currently and has been for years and only trending upwards with millions and millions of people playing but I dont know anyone who plays raid, I guess its mainly chinese people playing?
Chinese government owns part of the company behind the game. They're known for investing and covering for the losses basically waiting for players to leave their current games and move to China-made games. Once that happens they'll become profitable. It's same strategy Amazon uses in new markets they enter. Sell everything at a loss, wait for retailers in the country to go out of business. Slowly increase prices > Make money.
Shitload of players and to my understanding their model is get people addicted and then make progression basically require payment. Most people don't get to that point, but they cast a wide net with loads of sponsorships to get a ton of players so the small percentage is still enough to make large sums of money. I'm sure there's ads as well.
I remember before EOC i got an Arma Hilt and was so excited because it was still like 112m at the time. Till this day it is probably still one of my fovorite drops ive ever had.
not going to lie the thumbnail and title is super creative to go with this video... was expecting something to do with the economy but then got surprised with ags pking. Very interesting.
I love that 3 members of the audience play Raid and the rest of us are highly annoyed with the ads but don't say anything cause we understand you gotta get paid 🤠 We should all sign up using their links even if we don't play. Just so they can continue to get more gigs and possibly pay them more. Idk what they get paid right now but our RS content creators must be protected at all cost and taken care of 🤣. Haven't played RS in years but have been watching it on UA-cam for a couple. Part of my nightly routine 🥲 keep up the good work bruv. 🤎
The last time I played Runescape, the AGS price was 120m. I went to Barrows, Daganoth Kings and Lootshare in GodWars. Just so I can buy my first AGS. That time it was worth the price, It was one of the best weapon for pking. How I miss those days, I still remember my combat stats. 99 att 99 str 70 def 99 hp 99 mage 99 range 70 pray
0:26 it looks delayed yes but the damage calc happens as soon as the xp drops I thought…like they either pray on the tick your xp drops or they get hit off prayer no?
Whips used to be 2m 10 yrs ago, now they're at 72k (alch value) in RS3 since more people are able to obtain them, and better weapons have come out. Same thing here where in 8 years more people, goldfarmers, and bots kill Kree'arra and better PvP weapons are released. Ngl, I've missed the Call of Duty edits that you used to do in older vids. Keep it up:)
i gotchu bro. Just eat until you're max hp anytime you take a single point of damage, combo spec something with gmaul. if you dont get the kill with spec tele tab. You are now a certified hood classic
Man i remember when I bought my first ags for 92m in RS2 Bounty Hunter Wildy with the emblem loots from standing in Wildy with 26k risk.. Sold my whole bank for it after camping bandos solo. Good times. Now buy 2 bonds there u go brudda
1:17 HES IN MELEE ARMOUR! USING MAGIC! AGAISNT ANOTHER MAGE! AND KILLS HIM! WITH MAGIC! *B r u h* this game is banger. I still don't understand what the fuck is happening.
Because Magic armor gives barely any mage penalty, and he's using the equivalent of med melee gear, which gives minimal mage penalty. He's also using some mage items which more than make up for his melee chest and legs. Not that complicated.
@@TheL0rd0fSpace a bit broken though. Like how d'hide armour once was. Or still possibly is. By all means this is amazing. Abuse the broken ass combat system until they decide to fix it. Or not.
They should have released items that use godswords as base items to craft. Like a Superior version or something On RS3 they made Torva armour to be required as material to build the best armour in the game. This way Torva is still very useful and well priced
Inflation exists not only in real life. If you print new money the value of the money goes down compared to assets(items). All those gp drops in the years increased the total circulating coins in the game.
It's not surprising at all. This is the natural state of all merchandise, virtual or otherwise but especially for virtual. As the number of the item increases the price goes down, with the price crash further being exasperated as demand also falls as more and more people get their hands on it one way or another. Given that there is no hilt sink outside of death's coffer, this is not surprising. If anything, it's surprising how much it took the item to reach this stage.
they need a well where we could dump items in or something that gets deleted from the game. But no.. Now every regular player gets punished because they fail on focusing the real problem. Altho the 5% tax they might add isnt that much, it means we regular accounts have to play longer to get everything we need. Thats not fair
In may 2012 when eoc was first announced it was over 20M and it was slowly going down until release of eoc in nov where it dropped from 17M to 7M in like 50 days
AGS crashed in RS2 because of skull trickers at rev caves. People would regularly use godswords there due to high strength bonus at the time but after losing it to skull trickers, who just dump them on the GE, they instead decided to find other alternatives which changed the meta and lowered demand for godswords.
i makes sense, in 2013 the stuff were barely obtain and there are a very little ammount of them in the game. but now everyone knows and can get them. i mean it has been 8 years :3
@@devan8425 That, and the rest are just iron men who don’t participate in the economy at all. With how broken the marketplace is, my iron man is my main at this point. Grand exchange values mean nothing.
@@RC-hv1yx Yeah I didn’t think about that. Everyone has Ironman nowadays, I remember my buddies even ended up getting their irons 2k+ total and didn’t even do that on their mains thag are 124/125
I saw the ags being dirt cheap as soon as it got released tbh, it happened with the live game and people memed about it at the start. Full well knowing itd happen to osrs too, i just waited. Here we are, feelsgoodman
I think the problen is that theae weapons once made stay in the game so as time goes on they value naturally decreases by simple law of supply amd demand. There is enough supply that they fight to sell over the others lowering the price
The only thing that flew in faster than that chopper was my finger skipping another raids shadow legends ad.
Leeeel
agreed
True talk
Gotta pay the bills.
Haha yup, I never buy foods or games that over advertise.
It's funny how nobody complains about being a safer anymore in OSRS because you can literally one hit them from max health.
What's a safer?
*F2P has logged in*
@@sirnunyabuiz6529 eating to full hp often
I meaaaaaaan depends but ye
@@sirnunyabuiz6529 a thing that existed when we all sucked at pvp or in f2p lol
When OSRS first came out, I remember a ton of people were trashing RS3 because of the AGS price was 9m back then. How the turn tables.
Nah it's still way harder to get 7 mill in osrs than it is to get 9m in RS3
I remember when ags was 130m in pre-eoc at one point, was nutty
December 2009 was peak at 125M ge price, damn that's a lot in 09.
@@GRIMHOOD99 Yee haha i rounded up for sure, but 125m is still insane and yes especially in '09, thats like a tbow today, I remember killing green dragons in lvl 20 wildy for 2 weeks straight to buy a bgs for 30m LOL
@@RandyPKsNubs I mean 5M difference on so poorly updated market like ge at item with this low of a volume is literally nothing. Yeah in 09 that is crazy money.
It was 200+ on release.
Ye i farmed it back in the day by hunting kingly implings then buying ags from it was awesome good memories
1:16 opponent - mage robes, general mage gear vs Torvesta - Veracs. The fact you completely out hit him and landed the spec shows how broken the game is
I can't understand how raid makes any money with how they sponsor everyone
its funny because apparently mobile games is the biggest gaming market out there currently and has been for years and only trending upwards with millions and millions of people playing but I dont know anyone who plays raid, I guess its mainly chinese people playing?
Chinese government owns part of the company behind the game. They're known for investing and covering for the losses basically waiting for players to leave their current games and move to China-made games. Once that happens they'll become profitable.
It's same strategy Amazon uses in new markets they enter. Sell everything at a loss, wait for retailers in the country to go out of business. Slowly increase prices > Make money.
Shitload of players and to my understanding their model is get people addicted and then make progression basically require payment. Most people don't get to that point, but they cast a wide net with loads of sponsorships to get a ton of players so the small percentage is still enough to make large sums of money. I'm sure there's ads as well.
Raid is a gacha game. Theyre funded by gambling addicts.
@@ImOnyxRS Sucks for them because China just banned addictive games.
I remember before EOC i got an Arma Hilt and was so excited because it was still like 112m at the time. Till this day it is probably still one of my fovorite drops ive ever had.
you should tob
not going to lie the thumbnail and title is super creative to go with this video... was expecting something to do with the economy but then got surprised with ags pking. Very interesting.
Well he is a pking channel
I remember years ago when Abby whips were 3.7 mil and the dragon chain was end game and worth 29 mil!!!
Yes. Well done.
Whips when they came out on rs2 were worth a phat aka billions now same with new items like dragon legs
OG, I still have to say between those days of end game chains or Soul Split and turmoil. Man I loved this game
Yeah and I remember when Santa's were 200k and phats were only like a mil ea
@@IDADDYIproductions turmoil and Frost Dragons! Remember those times
I mean yeah. Pumping AGS's in the game for 8 years with zero way to remove them from the game, the price will inevitably tank.
Plus arma with black chins is so easy
I love that 3 members of the audience play Raid and the rest of us are highly annoyed with the ads but don't say anything cause we understand you gotta get paid 🤠 We should all sign up using their links even if we don't play. Just so they can continue to get more gigs and possibly pay them more. Idk what they get paid right now but our RS content creators must be protected at all cost and taken care of 🤣. Haven't played RS in years but have been watching it on UA-cam for a couple. Part of my nightly routine 🥲 keep up the good work bruv. 🤎
You need to get past a certain point in the game for them to be credited, so just downloading it wouldn't benefit
@@markmcd2602 with that being said why don't we all take .037% of one day to help our friends out :)
@@leroybaxter2148 Because installing chinese malware is not the best idea.
@@pacman_pol_pl_polska damn ur incredibly right lolll never thought of that
"They will obv think my spec weapon is the staff" Like that helm isnt giving it away
The way you introduce your ads are pure gold. They're different everytime and original.
The last time I played Runescape, the AGS price was 120m.
I went to Barrows, Daganoth Kings and Lootshare in GodWars. Just so I can buy my first AGS.
That time it was worth the price, It was one of the best weapon for pking.
How I miss those days, I still remember my combat stats.
99 att
99 str
70 def
99 hp
99 mage
99 range
70 pray
2:10 honestly thought there was going to be protein powder in that crate lmao
its almost as if things devalue when its been farmed for a decade who woulda thought
5:24 i legit said "woaaah" out loud. That legit is so satisfying to see
0:26 it looks delayed yes but the damage calc happens as soon as the xp drops I thought…like they either pray on the tick your xp drops or they get hit off prayer no?
I haven’t played RuneScape for about 4 years but I still like and watch every single video you upload
Love the risk pking, big loot always cool to see, big losses funny to see, from a viewer standpoint I love this content
3:44 Skip
Sweet vid man, loved the risk fighting clips and original idea with the ags
When you started risk pking at the end I swear I heard a Gyah gyayaya somewhere off in the distance
"I don't even have an inferno cape or avernic"
*Has inferno cape 2 clips later* O.O
And avernic
ON
Whips used to be 2m 10 yrs ago, now they're at 72k (alch value) in RS3 since more people are able to obtain them, and better weapons have come out. Same thing here where in 8 years more people, goldfarmers, and bots kill Kree'arra and better PvP weapons are released.
Ngl, I've missed the Call of Duty edits that you used to do in older vids. Keep it up:)
Then why bandos and armadyl armour are still the same price or higher than b4? Cause its PVMscape. AGS are at 7m cause no one pk's.
do you have any plans to do a PKing guide? would love to get into it and learn some up-to-date stuff, love your content cheers
i gotchu bro. Just eat until you're max hp anytime you take a single point of damage, combo spec something with gmaul. if you dont get the kill with spec tele tab. You are now a certified hood classic
this is the guide =p
Watch bunch of his veng pking videos, those are quite self-explanatory. Rest is execution in action, PRACTICE.
Never thought I’d ever see a ch47 on your vids, but I’m so happy that I did.
Sincerely, a ch47 pilot
"I'm not even a risk fighter I don't even have an inferno Cape or avernic" last kill risk fighting has an inferno equit
And an avernic
lol your ad introductions are always the best
@pinnedby TorvestqRs Hm
The effort you put into your ads is impressive love the way they get mixed into the video hope they pay you well. You deserve it !
The guy at 6:00 laughing is the real mvp
Man i remember when I bought my first ags for 92m in RS2 Bounty Hunter Wildy with the emblem loots from standing in Wildy with 26k risk.. Sold my whole bank for it after camping bandos solo. Good times. Now buy 2 bonds there u go brudda
1:17
HES IN MELEE ARMOUR! USING MAGIC! AGAISNT ANOTHER MAGE! AND KILLS HIM! WITH MAGIC!
*B r u h* this game is banger. I still don't understand what the fuck is happening.
game's so cringe now
Because Magic armor gives barely any mage penalty, and he's using the equivalent of med melee gear, which gives minimal mage penalty. He's also using some mage items which more than make up for his melee chest and legs.
Not that complicated.
@@TheL0rd0fSpace a bit broken though. Like how d'hide armour once was. Or still possibly is.
By all means this is amazing. Abuse the broken ass combat system until they decide to fix it. Or not.
How much does cbat level matter for pking with gmaul+ags. is it okay if I accidentally leveled prayer lmao
Did it lvl your cb up? Also depends on your account build is it 1 def? Etc
How did you get the infernal cape haha or was that a plug in
Items feel better to have when they are expensive imo
4:30 fight brings me back to osrs days of combo spec o man
thankyou for including chapters for the ad
Yeah, that 2013 screenshot gave me a burst of nostalgia.
I just wanna say thank you for these chapters you absolute legend.
bro what mouse do you use
When u said we are all good in 5:12 I think my heart was broken a bit😭 I would’ve cried if I lost such things😭😭😭
2 and a half hours of fighting one person? Another reason I'll never understand how this game can be fun in 2021 lmao. Was great fun back in 2010
Looks like it'll be just as fun watching but when I actually try it's not there and feels like if I force it 10 years may go by without me noticing.
the "puuuuuuurfect" at 5:29 lmaoooo what
you got a like just for the heli flying through Varrock. lmfao, ad well done.
not only do i get to watch four ads during the video. theres an ad inside the video.
@pinnedby TorvestqRs i watch the videos for the ads. i love ads.
Never thought I’d see the days where 1/5 of torvestas video is a raid shadow legends ad
They should have released items that use godswords as base items to craft. Like a Superior version or something
On RS3 they made Torva armour to be required as material to build the best armour in the game. This way Torva is still very useful and well priced
A few items following this would be nice but I think people just need to accept things can't stay the same price or stay BiS forever.
Inflation exists not only in real life. If you print new money the value of the money goes down compared to assets(items). All those gp drops in the years increased the total circulating coins in the game.
It's not surprising at all. This is the natural state of all merchandise, virtual or otherwise but especially for virtual. As the number of the item increases the price goes down, with the price crash further being exasperated as demand also falls as more and more people get their hands on it one way or another. Given that there is no hilt sink outside of death's coffer, this is not surprising. If anything, it's surprising how much it took the item to reach this stage.
The guy's name at 5:15 "PKMEIFGAY" lmaoo
The longer the game is out the cheaper all items will get. Imagine how many ags are in game
Can I just say that I just noticed your account names and that they are darn cheeky :D
I mean... 8 years of kids playing 20 hours a day... Prices are gonna go down lol.
you mean thousands of bots and goldsellers?
which is why we need proper item sinks. other MMO's have this built into their games but OSRS does not
@@lucasparra2585 That too
@@randydarsh6788 Wouldn't that make new players experience worse tho?
@@randomdeliveryguy I think there's nothing worse for a new player than having game changing upgrades at a staggering low price.
I like the video when the first ad is running. Always.
Thoughts on Mod Kieran 's ge tax then buy back and delete item plan?
they need a well where we could dump items in or something that gets deleted from the game. But no.. Now every regular player gets punished because they fail on focusing the real problem. Altho the 5% tax they might add isnt that much, it means we regular accounts have to play longer to get everything we need. Thats not fair
@@timdeud1615 "Everybody needs a gold sink except me"
What happened to road to 46/46 spec? :o
Are you still playing RS?
I never skipped an ad so fast in my life
I remember before eoc was announced the AGS we’re still relatively cheap around the 7 to 10 mill zone
In may 2012 when eoc was first announced it was over 20M and it was slowly going down until release of eoc in nov where it dropped from 17M to 7M in like 50 days
I remember smiting them back in the day and it was nice but wasn’t all the much hype about it cuz the price was low
@@GRIMHOOD99 eoc was 2012 or 2013 thing not 2019
@@Modestulio typo but data is for eoc
So, I havent played RS in a while. What caused the AGS price drop?
Pvp is dead
Just more in the game mate
Supply being much higher than the demand and the fact that ags isn't very useful outside of pvp
@@imcarolean Was there an update? Or did everyone just decide to stop doing pvp?
@@Nagol93 no but there's no reason to pvp other than if you find it fun and getting piled on by clans in singles ruined that for a lot of people
Do you guys think the AGS will inevitably go back up? Sad seeing it so low
wait da faq how do you have inferno cape at the end
You absolutely rock the ads bro, killing me! 😂😂😄👍
is it safe-ing if this guy just kills you at full hp
4:37 112 damage stack good lord
5:05 112 damage stack revenge
5:26 112 damage part 3
@4:37 I legit believe that man contemplated logging on again.
Wait what kinda spell book swap was that
Glad your back yo
That AD transition lmao
"Sureeeeeeeee"
starting off strong lmao
@pinnedby TorvestqRs how stupid do you think we are?
>I only risk 12m
>Doesn't count the 3m in locked cash and over 6m worth of trouver parchments used to lock the void
Lmao I loved the intro to the add haha creative
I remember selling a gmaul for 30m the day gargoyles were released in like 2006
Me and the Vest man played some RAID SHADOWLEGENDS together it was pretty tight m8
AGS crashed in RS2 because of skull trickers at rev caves. People would regularly use godswords there due to high strength bonus at the time but after losing it to skull trickers, who just dump them on the GE, they instead decided to find other alternatives which changed the meta and lowered demand for godswords.
It's really weird to see an ahrims kill these days. God I miss pre eoc.
Is Jagex going to start banning people who bought GP several times months ago? If they do, I’m quitting
i makes sense, in 2013 the stuff were barely obtain and there are a very little ammount of them in the game. but now everyone knows and can get them. i mean it has been 8 years :3
Grats on the Sponsor dude
Already subbed but gz on giving Boaty the BCP, very humble.
i love the odablock parts in there, I ZEE
I think the nail in the coffin for the AGS was when the BGS spec got reduced to 50%. Reason being is you get the stat drain.
No, it’s just the game is dying out. The only people still playing probably are high enough to boss nowadays. It’s supply and demand.
@@devan8425 oh well, I’m wrong then.
@@OggaDugga it might have a little bit since but I’d guess the majority of it just came from the increase of people doing god wars over the years
@@devan8425 That, and the rest are just iron men who don’t participate in the economy at all. With how broken the marketplace is, my iron man is my main at this point. Grand exchange values mean nothing.
@@RC-hv1yx Yeah I didn’t think about that. Everyone has Ironman nowadays, I remember my buddies even ended up getting their irons 2k+ total and didn’t even do that on their mains thag are 124/125
tune at 9:20 ?? love it ahahaha
Love the account names, you've gained a like sir
idk how u find so many ppl in.the rev cave everytime when i go to the rev cave it is pretty much empty just 1-3 ppl i find there lol
As someone who hasn't played in a long time, I'm more surprised that an ags is still that expensive lmao
I saw the ags being dirt cheap as soon as it got released tbh, it happened with the live game and people memed about it at the start. Full well knowing itd happen to osrs too, i just waited. Here we are, feelsgoodman
Tbh bro those main fights do be like that. That's why I only 1 Def pk now. We should rematch sometime tho :)
Ngl the tab sound fx was funny as fuck
that 2nd kill is a crime
0:15 in this guhhh
Been yeeeears since I’ve played. What were the riots about??
That 72 was absolutely nasty for 35m bigs up
yes normalize splitting when someone random helps with the kill
Who gives a fuck pvp is dead anyway, only thing about to be normalized is an empty wildy
@@stinkmeaner2261 super unnecessary comment, get some help.
@@ThePrinceofallsayain all comments are unnecessary dummy
@@stinkmeaner2261 please don’t delete ur comment I need people seeing ur stupidity
@@ThePrinceofallsayain see these nutz
AGS’s have been getting shorted for years. Time for the AGS short squeeze?
3:45 to skip raid scammerlegends ad
I think the problen is that theae weapons once made stay in the game so as time goes on they value naturally decreases by simple law of supply amd demand. There is enough supply that they fight to sell over the others lowering the price
Wow so cool! I'm going for 88 smithing in f2p lmao
If you don't mind losing the AGS, you can use claws-ags.
I dont think he does lol they're ultra cheap atm