Even better is when they use un actual footage. Of course it's " actual.".is there another kind? We live in a reality based world where the actuality of things in question seldom in question. You sound like your 14 year old niece.
The guy left because she was beating him, he comes back in an attempt to protect his child from her, she files for custody and in the meantime the underage teenaged son would rather live in another state than with his mother, and they hand over the child without a second thought, give him visitation and yet he never gets to see her again. AND THAT is our “child protective” system at work. Congratulations.
That’s the court system and the family court system, to be exact. Not the “child protective” system. Also, so many people talk shit about the “system” but I don’t see a lot talking about how if people would think just a little bit and communicate a little bit before they fucked they wouldn’t have to have “the system” involved. Also, if people put their goddamned kids ahead of themselves, “the system” wouldn’t have to get involved. And if people would volunteer their time and money, and if people would become social workers and work for “the system” instead of constantly harping about it, and if people would get off their asses and do a quick google search or better yet get the fuck off their dead, complaining Karen _asses_ and shadow a family services worker to see how much “the system” needs help and hands and money and people who care about kids, “the system” would be better. But people would rather be ineffective complainers who remain willfully ignorant, who blame everyone and anyone they can for a system _that includes them_ that they say doesn’t work, and who constantly degrade frontline workers that work themselves senseless to save a kid that the Karen complainers don’t even know _exist_ and I’m sick of it. These are the same ass holes that have zero citeable data about “the system” but constantly debase and degrade law enforcement, GALs, CASA volunteers, child protective workers, abuse and neglect hotline workers and many other folks that work hard to do the best they can with little to no salary, respect, help or thanks. All these people do is remain lazy, uneducated and unhelpful and leave the hard work to others at the same time they complain about it. Trash.
@@QuinnieMae When you come at people like this, they're not going to listen to you or consider your side whatsoever because all they're going to see is insults. I agree with you entirely, but you need to get your point across in a way that actually encourages change, and isn't just as degrading and rude as the very thing you're bothered by.
"Sent Nicole down a path that would provide her with housing for the rest of her life" That is just part of the reason why I love this channel The side commentary is priceless.
I don’t get it. Killing people over money. Get a job lol. Be a drug dealer something other than killing people. Dealing drugs is a lot less time than killing someone.
Right? She cuts right through it. It's insulting to people who actually suffer from schizophrenia too, and she's passionate about the people she works with and doesn't approve of people using it as an excuse to try to get out of the responsibility for their choices
My favorite part about what you’re doing with your style is including the court footage and 911 calls. So many creators use stock images, and even creatively, it gets old. I appreciate the extra effort it takes to put these together.
@@darthwicket thank you I’m watching em now! I always get somewhat disappointed when I’m listening to a juicy story and I look hopefully at the screen for a photo or video and there isn’t.
I'm diagnosed bipolar type 2 and I'd LOVE to personally thank that psychiatrist for her honest testimony. It pisses me off when people try to fake a mental illness to get away with murder. It makes those of us who do have mental health issues look like idiots. Good for her. She wasn't letting her spin that scenario to get away with it.
Nicole wasn't faking anything. It wasn't her who claimed she had schizophrenia. As Lazarou points out, Nicole saw herself as not mentally ill and actively tried to present herself as normal as possible. Taking her responses at face value was intellectually dishonest on her part.
the moment the father started crying in the beginning, after he recalled taking care of her as a baby, breaks my heart into pieces. He probably thought in that moment how things could have been different if he got custody.. or maybe the innocence of her as a baby.
@@lushpapaya9932 What’s that have to do with this case though? We don’t know the circumstances but that doesn’t change that fact that he wanted custody of Nicole, didn’t get it and sadly this is what happened
He is sketchy. Repeating over and over that he alone took care of this monster & not directly answering the question about the relationship conflicts. He calls it a family system - cmon.
I absolutely prefer these longer, about an hour or so long videos. they're so nicely put-together, & there's just so much information included & that helps to paint such a vivid mental picture of events & makes it so much more intriguing to listen to. I love this channel.
I just came from a channel with a video discussing a woman escaping from where she was raped and tortured and the guy had an oversexualized animation of her running away with stock audio overlay of a woman panting while he did a terrible fake-dramatic voiceover. Of course his pinned comment said to subscribe and that his channel is comparable to Netflix and Hulu. I have never wanted to punch somebody more in my life
Savage is right! That opening was brilliant! Don’t let the UA-cam bullies tell you what you can or can’t comment. I came to the comments to make the exact same comment, and saw that you already commented what I was going to say. Disregard the keyboard warriors, your comment was right on point, just like the intro!
@savvy Wilson oh wow. I wasn’t being nasty or anything I didn’t mean for my comment to come across as rude. I feel Really sorry for you. Really. You have a lot of issues. My uncle knew this family and that is why I wrote my comment. Get some help please. You obviously have a lot of issues.
At the start of the video when Nicoles dad is talking about how he always took care of her ever day when she was a baby, watching his emotions play out across his face is heartbreaking to watch. I'm crying for him..
@F Trakk I don't think he's looking for any kind of acknowledgement for that. It seems to me that his mind is arguing about whether he should have fought harder or if he should have been in a larger role in his daughter's life.
@F Trakk ... Dude the guy knowns his daughter's life is over... Maybe he thinks he could of changed that if the courts weren't biased as fuck to men! You are a piece of shit... you are literally doing the thing you accused him of.
“I like to say that genetics loads the gun, personality and psychology aim it, and your experiences pull the trigger.” - Jim Clemente; former FBI agent
That day she was found guilty Joey called the insurance company and collected the 750,000 dollar policy that was for nicole. He has never spoken to nicole since 2015. Never sent her a card never put one dime in her jail or prison commissary account. He claims his Dad abused him. After mom got custody he was taken to tampa from houston in 1997. He never again spoke to his Dad or saw him. He has PAS from the mom. He was alienated from his Dad. Dad Joe's brother is alive and saw him with his boys and Dad Joe's wife lisa too. Joey was never abused. I knew Joe Carey and he never once abused his boys. Kevin was left with stepmom lisa and Dad Joe in houston. Dad joe still had to pay mom for his child support. Joe and lisa took him to a counselor to help him but it didnt work. Intoxicated in his dad's new car he drove ut into a utility pole and killed himself in 2003. 1/2 mile Dad house in Houston. He buried the boy he loved. Mom never attended the funeral.
@@runningshoesus What a lot of information to unpack. Absolutely incredible, albeit with a terrible ending, I was hoping for somethjng else. Knowing all this I'm gonna rematch this and see if I cant pick up on some of it or catch something I may have missed be less informed. Thanks for all this information, it really puts a few things in perspective.
@@runningshoesus I’m sure the friends of abusers would also say that the person they knew was never an abuser, but you really don’t know because you were never with them 24/7 and never personally saw everything that happened between the two. Sometimes your own parent could abuse you and the other parent be none the wiser. You really don’t know and you have no ability to denounce any claims of abuse. If any claim is “I know the guy and I know he wouldn’t do that” it’s always made by someone who doesn’t know the complete picture ever. It’s why we have trials for these kinds of things and have a panel of jurors rather than relying on one person’s extremely biased testimony to exonerate a person.
@@kashinimeyo I have home videos of Nicole 2 to 2 10 months. She screams and cries mommy hurt me. What more do you need? Photos of bloody lips when Nicole returns from mom. I have video and pictures of swollen bloody lips when Nicole returns from mom. Of course a 2 year old is just seld reporting. You are fool
@@garychambers6848 That is wild, but my story is very similar. When I looked into getting custody of my son they basically said if she’s not on drugs or violent towards him specifically I have no shot. Nevermind her abusing me, “she’d never hurt him” so it’s fine 🤦🏽♂️
@@garychambers6848 If the mother is abusive or the child makes it clear that they want to live with dad, I think custody is given to the father of he's a safer option than living with the mother. I have a friend who is a single dad who was granted custody of his child, and sure it was nasty legal battle, but the mother was abusing the child.
The psychology testimony by the doctor was a relief and please to watch. She knew she was malingering and did not allow her to get away with such nonsense. Her testimony was brilliant and very convincing.
One day I was watching TV, feeling sorry for myself because of some tax problems that I was having (being audited for the 15 millionth time). The guy said, "if you are feeling overwhelmed by life, we can help...call us." Sure, it was an actual ISSUE, not so e random "I feel sad" thing, but i thought they might have some advice. Not so much...they transferred me and transferred me (etc etc). I wanted to hang up, but they warned me that this could involve a police visit to ensure my safety....one woman was very excited to tell me that I was so very very lucky to be talking with an actual SUPERVISOR (!) not just some random volunteer, but that, sadly, she was just about to leave for her annual vacation, so she was going to transfer me again ("don't hang up !!")...the next woman told me that as it was almost 5 pm, she was just getting ready to leave for the day, but if I would promise (swear...pinky swear) not to commit suicide overnight, she would make sure that someone called me the next day between 8 and noon, would I please give her my phone number ? I laughed and said "don't you HAVE it ? Are you telling me that you don't have caller ID?" She said, "well sure we do, but I wanted your permission to use your number." To get her off the phone I gave her the number. Over the next 2 days, I ignored exactly 3 calls from them. That was it. Good job.
@@leanie5234 i don’t know what hotline you had a misfortune to call to, but those mentioned in the video are national i believe. and while even so every dispatcher can’t do perfect job and surely there’s some fuck ups here and there it should be better. sorry to hear about your experience though, i can’t even call their job half-assed, but that’s not normal and it doesn’t make every hotline bad by default
@@leanie5234 systemic failure is all too common. Im so sorry. Thats why Im super skeptical about calling these numbers. That isn’t to say these hotlines can’t help, but when theres super specific issues these people are not trained for, they often are super lackluster, or are not trained to deal with those aforementioned issues. Trust issues don’t help either /:
@@leanie5234 "but they warned me that this could involve a police visit to ensure my safety" And that right there will prevent 85% of anyone from ever calling one of those hotlines. Police don't belong anywhere near mental health aid.
I’m only 17 seconds in and the part where you said “housing for the rest of her life”, that’s a hell of an introduction to this case. Thank you for your dedication to providing us such amazing insight into these cases! Be well, Jack
And I still don't understand how those two things come together. What does not having a dorm room have to do with killing your mom and step-dad?!?! I guess it's good that we don't understand or we would be in as bad a state as her.
she thought it would make a good alibi, if she is getting loaned the $100, and then checking in, then people will say she was busy with that... the whole scheme was hare-brained from the start.
She says they are malingering and psychopathic. Every case. She had her psychiatric license and forensic taken away. She committed perjury. She tried to sue the medical board. She admits she wasn't. It's in her lawsuit. The lawsuit is posted on Nicole's website
She may not fit the criteria for schizophrenia, but she presents with some signs of autism. That doctor sounds hell bent on proving Nicole does not have schizophrenia, but fails to mention she might fit the criteria for another disorder. She is very loudly opinionated for someone who is there to provide unbiased evidence. It makes me wonder how biased she was when she evaluated Nicole, because if she was (and it sounds like she was), that seems a little unethical.
@@alena1093 lazarou had a license in Illinois but let that lapse after her 100M lawsuit was dismissed against the psychiatrist board. She is probably in violation of those states laws since she still is only a general practitioner here. She commits perjury all the time. She recently filed for divorce, lost her million dollar house, sued its hoa and lost in court, filed for a domestic violence restraining order claiming her husband abuses her, filed a lawsuit for 50M against an orthopedic surgeon who 5 years ago took an xray of her arm, and of course she continues to claim her mom and dad sexually abused her, physically abused her and emotionally abused her. In the johchuck trial she testified she was catholic but her Facebook she posted about her big Jewish wedding. She is slime. Thus divorce will harm their children.
As a Beast myself, I can confirm she is definitely NOT a Beast.. and I'm rather insulted she'd try to insinuate she is one my kind... that rotten monster..
17:50 Oh god The poor Neighbor is obviously still shook from what happened/what he seen he’s trying his hardest to steady himself, He’s reliving what happened as he’s listening to the 911 call such a disheartening and heartbreaking situation all around
Atleast his daughter was in the closet hiding and didnt have 2 see a body... I know seeing murders and a few bodies when I was a kid bothered me alot for a long time...
@@cats0oup true but I'm just speaking from my point of view, I had I situation were my my neighbor was screaming for help because someone broke into her house. Guess what? I didn't stay in the house and call the cops, I came to her aid and put my myself on the line but hey, everyone is different so to each his own.
Finally someone who doesn't put their big huge face all over the video and rambles about with 7 minute intros 😩😭🥰 I LOVE the way the monsters guy does videos!! Thanks for real footage, as well as your matter of fact demeanor ❤
I don’t understand the trend of plastering your face everywhere. How about leave the victims the centerfold? Your content should speak for itself. If I have to look at your face I’m gonna cringe and flee.
Thank you! I understand there are quite a few people that actually do this well. However, there are so many (females mainly) who do the beauty/crime thing and just casually do makeup while narrating a story WHICH ISNT A STORY its an actual crime that has happened to actual people ! We don't need to see you ... Know what foundation you use. Why not tell the story. Show source clips and information? Seems easy enough to me. Makes me feel uneasy and so horrible towards victims to see their story exploited in such a way. If you're gonna do it... Do it with respect and do it right.
@Captain Obvious if they have both parents active in child’s life they are coParenting not single parent !! It’s sad how much percentage of 1 parent households has gone up.. I don’t know why anyone would brag about it & use child for finacial gain.. if you grown participating in sex with someone better be able to get along for lifetime !! Just because your relationship didn’t work doesn’t give anyone the right to use a child or court system for revenge - only in high risk situations but family courts are horrible at keeping or helping family unit !!
My late husband, a very kind man raised his children and children not even his by blood. One of them was my son. He did most of his child rearing alone after his wife and children's mother left. He loved them all. I met him last and we were married 21 years and I lost him to cancer. He was perfect(for me) as he would say. Love and miss you Dan
Good independent production. What I enjoy about these is every single episode lasts a different amount of time. This tells me each story has its own factual length and all that is happening is your getting the whole set of facts needed to tell that story and it is done very very simply and at the same time very very well and in a concise manner. Well done .
It could have been press showing up and stringing up their own microphones. Still, he should have given them a line out, but who knows what their install looks like
she was guilty-but that isn't an indication of guilt on it's own, i personally don't get typically "emotional" in situations like this until a few minutes, or hours- even days after receiving the news. Something inside my head just puts put that process on hold. I'm aware its quite common for people to display non-syncratic behaviours while experiencing grief.
She killed two people while returning to school. I am not organized enough to sign up for college. This was strange one. The professionals know best. Mother was mean it sounds. Should have killed her and claimed self defense and leave her husband alive. I do think it's interesting that it takes a while for some patients to get a schizophrenic diagnosis and these experts can do it in a few hours for murder cases. The shrink was annoyed at the other shrinks diagnosis and spent to much time discrediting her. She came across arrogant and condescending. If shrinks are so smart how come they can't always figure out if a patient is go to kill themselves or others and help them before they do it. The whole field of severe mental illness is interesting if you don't have it. Having schizophrenia is hell and destroys people's ability to live normal lives. Hearing voices is so painful and you have no control. All people can hope for is treatment to help manage their symptoms.
@Truth Is Vegan this is not a story about why people should be vegan. i'm a vegetarian and i can promise you are the archetype of why people think badly of vegans. weird loser
I recently saw it (again) in a courtroom video clip that was on an episode of _Dateline._ I thought, "Oh. OK. I guess courtrooms think WMP a good program..." 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
"I got permission to enter the residence" "Who gave you permission, a supervisor?" "I made the decision." He's the most polic-y talkin policeman I've ever heard
I'm pretty sure he said " I did give permission to the deputies knocking at the door to go in". He was the supervisor on scene and the deputies needed permission from him.
Yup. PERFECT. 4am eastern time, awake after bottle feeding our baby goats (they eat every 4 hours). Now hunkered back beneath the covers with this masterpiece! THANK YOU!
@@staceyann1180 They've been VERY popular this past week, lots of visitors & helpers. Three babies needing a bottle every four hours means no lack of volunteers!
Very well done episode again! The angry psychologist absolutely destroying the fraud of the defense was glorious! She should be consulted in all such cases.
As satisfying as it was I'm pretty sure she's had her license revoked and was a total fraud herself But, you know, that doesn't mean she wasn't totally correct in this instance.
Love a long episode! Your voice is ideal for this kind of thing, very easy listening! Thanks P.s. her college roommate now has the best r/crazyroommate story ever.
I can't understand a word that girl says on any of the phone calls! Are you sure she doesn't do the voice over of Charlie Brown and the Peanuts gang's school teacher??
Sending virtual hugs to you both as that's all I can do. Remember, 'this too shall pass'. I have a messed up family who I had to cut contact with but thankfully I have a loving spouse and a handful of reliable friends. Seek out good people and nurture those friendships. You won't be alone forever, friend(s).
I love that you talk about cases that aren’t too well known. It seems like most crime channels all do the same big cases, which is pretty boring. Just one of the reasons that I love this channel 🙏
Isaiah 45:7 " I am the LORD, and there is no other. I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. "
There is a huge gap in the market left by JCS. I'm discerning and think you may fill it fast. Your hard work is evolving beautifully. Thank you. Sarah UK
I was abused as a kid & I eventually fought back & hurt my father significantly, which stopped that abuse. He stopped coming home, but soon I had a car & I moved out. I can relate to living under abuse but according to this young woman's life, she no longer lived at home, so even if she had been abused, she had left the abuse, & had multiple places to get help from other family who seemed happy to help her.
Wow! That dr at 59:57 is amazing. She took the defense teams whole strategy apart, shredded it brick by brick and sounds disgusted that its even necessary to do so. I could listen to hear speak for hours. What an intelligent, sharp woman.
She is a paid testifier that went all in to try to win the case. The judge should not have allowed her to testify in the way she did as an expert. She was suppose to be an expert witness that should only be testifying in their field, she went way off of her expertise. A good defense would have discredited her testimony by addressing her testimony that said Nicole had killed anyone. As an expert you are not a witness to the crime. How can she testify about issues you have no direct knowledge of. Doesn't mean Nicole is innocent, just that the DR. went way beyond giving her expert opinion and should not have done that. The defense should have objected and the Judge should have stopped her when she went outside of her actual expertise.
This story is far more complex than one might assume. The daughter was totally mentally abused by her mother. It's heartbreaking... No one is truly innocent in this story. I recommend the 'Sword and Scale' podcast episode for context.
I love the longer episodes! Also the psychiatrist was A+. She was not standing for a fake diagnosis or excuse. We need more mental health professionals like her
She sued the medical board in 2017 for 100m. In 2017 she lost her psychiatrist license and forensic. The lawsuit says she lost these. It's in the clerk's records which you can access
The anderson report was phony. I had no contact with nicole for 3 months. Anderson had the mom bring nicole over. Nicole picked up a toy the beast of beauty and the beast and at 3 years 2 months said to me and anderson mommy monster. Nicole then picked up a toy sword and another doll. That doll she called mommy. She took the toy sword and stabbed the mommy doll twice in the abdoms and the tried to cut off the dolls head. Kids at 3 are not monsters. Joan Anderson left this out of her fake report. I filed it in a 1997 lawsuit which was denied. 18 years later nicole is in Washington sees a sword and buys it. Joey steals it. Nicole goes to tampa and calls joey and tells him she has a sword. A couple days later mom and Dienes are dead. The house police list had no sword. Nicole had the moms gun. Mom was shot twice in the abdomen and once in the head. Just like the Anderson dolls. I have my last video of nicole. Her lip is busted swollen and bloody. At 3 years old I asked her while my video camera was running. Who did this nicole. Nicole says mommy did that like hurt my ear. A 3 year old tells us on video her mommy is punching her in the mouth. I was order to supervised visitation. Nicole's left ear was damaged. The mom blamed me. 3 year old nicole tells us on video it was mom. You have it wrong. Mommy was psychotic the court system was the monster
@runningshoeus She was taking care the best way she could. You didn’t been close to Nicole for so many years. She grown up without you. Stop telling lies around different websites about their family. It’s more to it.
I don't know why I'm binge watching these videos. In a weird way I guess it's an exercise of gratitude for being a decent person with a decent family. Isn't it great to just live a normal life with full potential? It's literally all we've got. Why ever risk it?
He didn’t go into it much for some reason, but the mother was extremely cruel and verbally abusive. The mother endlessly criticized the daughter for her weight and being “ugly”and often smacked her for “walking like a man”. I’m not justifying her actions, but the mother cowed her into fearing any small mistake.
I've been watching a lot of crime videos (murders), and eventually UA-cam recommended "this is MONSTERS" to me, and I am very thankful for that. Thanks to you for doing this. If I was rich, I would support you, but since I'm not, saying thank you will have to do for now. :)
I can tell that Mr. Roe, once they start playing his second 911 call, starts feeling extreme anxiety, probably feeling like he might have a panic attack. He's putting his hands all over his face, which is a coping mechanism we sometimes use when feeling that sudden, overwhelming surge of fight or flight. He even grips onto the seat of the chair with both hands, realizing what he was doing, I'm sure. He starts the face touching, face in hand movements shortly after, though. Poor guy, that must have been rough.
I’m here for this comment. I noticed as well and thought maybe we were gonna need a medic. I bet it’s been horrible thinking about what was going on next door 😬
Well I’m jumping on this bandwagon as well! At first I thought he was gonna be a suspect from how obviously nervous he was from the start…idk what I would do in his situation especially with my child possibly being in danger
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't get the connection between the dorm and murdering her parents. I've listened to this 3 times and still don't understand. I can only guess it's maybe because if she didn't get the dorm room her mom would give her shit and she didn't want to hear it... again.
It does not, make sense. Just looking at her she looks, off. Not just the stress of the charges, jail, future sentence. She just looks detached. Times like this that maybe eugenics should come back... (obvious joke,, ya'll calm down)
@@denisegroce7135 Maybe you are right, but her actions still don't make a lot of sense to me. I mean her reason for killing her parents had something to do with thinking she wasn't going to have a dorm on campus. At one point I think she even said if she had gotten her dorm earlier she wouldn't have had to kill them, or words to that effect. I just don't get it at all. I think she was delusional or utterly irrational.
It makes perfect sense. Considering the tumultuous relationship with her mom, an arguement probably spurred between the two over the housing and how it'd effect her schooling. The arguement got physical and the mom ended up dead. This wasn't a premeditated crime, this was decades of abuse bottling up to an explosive endpoint.
@@PR0MAN01 Except that isn't at all what happened. Yes the mom was apparently emotionally abusive, but there wasn't some impromptu argument that lead to a crime of passion. Nicole snuck into the house, parking her car blocks away, killed her stepdad and then left. She then returned about a day later and shot mom in the driveway before mom could get inside and find stepdad. Nicole even tried to get into stepdad's email so that mom wouldn't become concerned or suspicious that she wasn't hearing from him. Did you even watch the same video? There was absolutely nothing to support your idea that Nicole and mom got into some big argument that lead to Nicole killing stepdad and mom. How would that even explain how stepdad was killed hours before mom and inside the house while he was apparently watching TV and eating chips and then mom was shot out on the driveway, again hours apart from one another?
He probably wanted to say a whole lot more because he clearly wasn’t his mothers biggest fan. I hope he lives a good life I cannot for one moment imagine how you live and get resolution about something like this.
I hope this show gets picked up for a TV/Netflix show one day. The production is already great but it would be fun to see what you could do with a big budget and tons of resources.
These hour episodes are surely going to increase your view count and followers. I think I came when you had about 5K followers. I'm happy to see the blow up and can't wait till you hit 1million plus!. I'm going to consider myself a "Day 1" fan when that happens...well actually in my head I already do lol. Keep up the great work! Rooting for you
It's way too long. Really padded out. Ton of redundancy, stuff that really doesn't add anything, boring details. So it's gonna lose a few as well. Guys like Matthew Orchard also do long format but weave an entire narrative, with unexpected angles as well as their own take. It is enthralling. This put me to sleep!!
Nope. She's very loud, pushy and opinionated. Like MY OPINION IS RIGHT AND NOBODY HAD BETTER DARE DISAGREE WITH ME. Seems like she has some issues of her own.
As someone that has dedicated my life to the study of criminal psychology I was absolutely floored by the prosecution's psychological rebuttal. I did not catch the womans name but she truly had a presence in that courtroom like few have. Everything she said about abnormal persecution ideation, no history of hallucinatory episodes, and the average responses of the defendant was so incredibly crucial that she alone won the case for the prosecution. I have never been called to present findings in a criminal case and I doubt I ever will. However, if that ever happens I sincerely hope that I am not tasked with facing off against her. She practically discredited the defense's psychologist so soundly that I can't see them being called back for anymore cases in the near future and she was being nice...wow!
@@teo5836 It wasn't a cool story, the entire event was caught on camera. I merely gave my professional opinion and respect to one who is clearly at the top of their game. She is one helluva litigator and I still stand by my previous statement. I would not want to spar with her in a courtroom setting...a debate perhaps but not in open court. Thankfully, the chances of us ever going at it in court are slim to none. We are not in the same state, city, and district nor am I such a known entity that I would be called to assist in a case outside of my jurisdiction. Further, as I work in academia I'm pretty far removed from the action...so to speak. I'll take the classroom over life and death situations any day of the week.
The cops here are really quick to determine death. When I was in the army, we were taught that we were not allowed to declare someone dead without medical professionals, and not to refrain from life saving measures unless the head was detached from the body.
Do you think maybe they had to make decisions based on the assumption that the shooter was still in the area, possibly in the house? The mom was unresponsive and there was only one deputy at the scene initially, so he called EMS. He would have been a sitting duck trying to resuscitate her if the shooter was there. Also, the dad was dead for a couple of days by then. I think you could probably tell he was dead by looking at him. I could be wrong about all of it, but I assumed they didn't try CPR for these reasons. I know in battle you have to assess whether it is safe to render aid at that moment on top of determining death.
Yoooo real shit, this girl was in my English class in highschool. She was also on the track team with me. Very interesting individual. Something was definitely off with her. But to be 100% honest i wasn’t surprised when I found out about all this
@@personalcheeses8073 you only need to read Yuval Noah Harari's books to understand the importance of history and the knowledge a historian can provide about the future.
It’s probably a good thing that you cannot follow the thinking here. It means you’re not a psychopath. But yeah it makes no sense. I feel that the brothers testimony is a little weird. I wonder 💭
Money, dude. Always follow the money. With her parents dead, she would inherit some money, which could be used to rent an apartment or whatever near the college.
The call starting at 29:58 could really do with subtitles, due to how blown out it is. But otherwise the video was fantastic. Well done putting this together!
@@shahab814 that's cool. Have to go where the salary is. But conversations with historians are awesome ! So hopefully no regrets about all the papers and research you had to do in school :)
Had a recruiting interview w a Dean of history at a small college & he listed several notable people that were history majors. Mostly in government & academia. "Those who don't study history are bound to repeat it." -some famous guy.
She does have some issues but schizophrenia nope! Oh and as usual A big Thank you for the suicide prevention and the abuse hotlines! I lost both my daughter and then my husband to suicide. It's not easy being the survivor of that! Thank you!
I have lost the most important people in my life as well and I feel for you, Marsha. I share your pain and I wish you the very best. Much respect from Michigan.
I know this is coming from a stranger on the internet but you're an inspiration to people. You're incredibly strong to be able to keep going after such losses. I truly hope you are in a happy place in life and doing well.
I did social work and counseling for 15 years. The psychiatrist is absolutely correct. This girl is NOT schizophrenic. She planned this in a very cold-blooded and calculated way. She knew exactly what she was doing. She thought about doing this for a long time…she IS a monster.
I love how whenever some woman is being accused of murder and is in court their attorneys have them dressed like they're a nun or a little innocent school girl. Give us a break we know that's when for sure you're the monster
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LMBO!!!! I'm a woman I was looking at that outfit like, she looks even crazier wearing that shit throw her and that outfit in the trash, haha, LMBO!!!
Most likely her attorney told her to dress conservative in an effort to make her "appear" more innocent. Especially in the South where many courts tend to lean towards being more conservative, many people are advised to play up the appearance. It's amusing, especially when you know that the individual IS a monster.
this is MONSTERS, awesome channel, thank you. I'm a dedicated true crime watcher, and you are extremely skilled. Very professional and cogent storytelling.
I'm not sure she's being 100% truthful in her statements. I had a close friend with paranoid schizophrenia. Schizophrenics don't necessarily live in delusions all the time. They are capable of executive functioning (my friend self-medicated with heroin, and he was certainly capable of getting money and scoring no matter how bad his paranoia got). Also it should be noted that schizophrenia doesn't usually develop until people are in their 20s, so the fact that she never exhibited it sooner is not necessarily a deal-breaker.
I do think she was very afraid of her mother. I think her mother was emotionally annihilating and Nicole couldn’t face having to tell her that she’d messed up getting her school housing. That’s what Nicole meant when she said “she was going to kill me”. It was a metaphor. Nothing justifies what Nicole did and she needs to be in prison for life. But if her mother was the malignant narcissist that other investigations insinuate she was, this begins to make a certain kind of sense.
I had to move back home and live with my mother in my early 20s and she is a malignant narcissist. I did want her to die, but I considered killing myself first.
@@mindrolling24 I'd rather be homeless, Dude. I've been homeless 3 times in shelters/hostels. My mom was like come home. I was like hell no. Now I've got my own brand new government funded rental apartment where I can stay as long as I like as long as I pay the rent and don't cause trouble. Been here near 5 years now. Peace at last.
@@marleyhill34 My mother acted like she was doing me an enormous favour and that she didn’t want me back yet I was the one who did all the cleaning and cooking etc. She’s in her mid 80s now and wonders why no one likes her. She treated my and my brother’s kids as she did us- fawning over one and actively hating the other for no apparent reason so they all hate her as well. You reap what you sow.
@@mindrolling24 I would walk out, to be honest and go and stay somewhere else until I calm down. When I do that now, my parents get the message loud and clear that I'm here out of duty and loyalty but not for play play or there would be a mutiny.
Idk.. if you're an adult.. you can just leave your parents and never speak to them again.. I left even sooner while I was 17 and still in high school by getting emancipated. I didn't once think.. "oh.. best answer is to murder my mother." People that resort to that are subhumans and deserve to go to hell. Past history of verbal abuse be damned.
“She decided to go down a path that would provide housing for the rest of her life” is absolutely insane 😭😭
Hands down the best intro!
Bro got slick savage…
This line just made me subscribe
😂😂😂 ❤
@@Alien_queeenme too 😂😂
Am i the only one that loves that he uses actual courtroom footage to tell the story? It makes it so interesting!
I don't think it's actual courtroom footage... They're overacting too much.... But i could be wrong of course 🤔
@@marino3974 ? Thats actual courtroom footage.
@@KLR_FML it is? COOL.. that makes it so much better then👍Thanx! I stand corrected 😉
Even better is when they use un actual footage. Of course it's " actual.".is there another kind? We live in a reality based world where the actuality of things in question seldom in question. You sound like your 14 year old niece.
Yyryiyyyy
The guy left because she was beating him, he comes back in an attempt to protect his child from her, she files for custody and in the meantime the underage teenaged son would rather live in another state than with his mother, and they hand over the child without a second thought, give him visitation and yet he never gets to see her again.
AND THAT is our “child protective” system at work. Congratulations.
Fuck dude. Reading that out loud can dull any mood.
And i bet he had to pay a fortune in child maintenance
@@richardkelbie5362 that she spent on herself
That’s the court system and the family court system, to be exact. Not the “child protective” system. Also, so many people talk shit about the “system” but I don’t see a lot talking about how if people would think just a little bit and communicate a little bit before they fucked they wouldn’t have to have “the system” involved. Also, if people put their goddamned kids ahead of themselves, “the system” wouldn’t have to get involved.
And if people would volunteer their time and money, and if people would become social workers and work for “the system” instead of constantly harping about it, and if people would get off their asses and do a quick google search or better yet get the fuck off their dead, complaining Karen _asses_ and shadow a family services worker to see how much “the system” needs help and hands and money and people who care about kids, “the system” would be better. But people would rather be ineffective complainers who remain willfully ignorant, who blame everyone and anyone they can for a system _that includes them_ that they say doesn’t work, and who constantly degrade frontline workers that work themselves senseless to save a kid that the Karen complainers don’t even know _exist_ and I’m sick of it. These are the same ass
holes that have zero citeable data about “the system” but constantly debase and degrade law enforcement, GALs, CASA volunteers, child protective workers, abuse and neglect hotline workers and many other folks that work hard to do the best they can with little to no salary, respect, help or thanks.
All these people do is remain lazy, uneducated and unhelpful and leave the hard work to others at the same time they complain about it. Trash.
@@QuinnieMae When you come at people like this, they're not going to listen to you or consider your side whatsoever because all they're going to see is insults. I agree with you entirely, but you need to get your point across in a way that actually encourages change, and isn't just as degrading and rude as the very thing you're bothered by.
"Sent Nicole down a path that would provide her with housing for the rest of her life"
That is just part of the reason why I love this channel
The side commentary is priceless.
Yeah, you're right, I remembered that he said that and then later it dawned on me what he was probably talking about.
I don’t get it. Killing people over money. Get a job lol. Be a drug dealer something other than killing people. Dealing drugs is a lot less time than killing someone.
@@Fallingstarcore prison is housing for the rest of her life
🤣🤣🤣 Yes tht just hit me lmaoo
Love his low key savagery. That's what keeps me coming back to this channel.
Here I am again. At 12:26 am. Alone in a 24 hour convenience store. An ear pod in one ear.... "This is monsters...."
Thank you.
Same at 24 hour convenience gas station but it's 3:35am here
Im at a 24hr laundromat
@@Justablakman 24 hr cell here..this is Nichole...
@@billy6pack887 whats up Nichole...🤘🏾
I'm here at waffle house lol
That psychiatrist is a badass. She ain’t puttin’ up with anybody’s fake schizophrenic BS. Love it.
Rewatching this part and I love it!
She needs to do the rounds of defence lawyers trying to us fake schizophrenia as an easy out
Right? She cuts right through it. It's insulting to people who actually suffer from schizophrenia too, and she's passionate about the people she works with and doesn't approve of people using it as an excuse to try to get out of the responsibility for their choices
Saw this comment now, not seen this part yet....waiting...
Wish all professionals in that field had integrity like that.
My favorite part about what you’re doing with your style is including the court footage and 911 calls. So many creators use stock images, and even creatively, it gets old. I appreciate the extra effort it takes to put these together.
I love when they use real images and calls too!
Thatchapter does this as well. It's wonderful to include
@@darthwicket thank you I’m watching em now! I always get somewhat disappointed when I’m listening to a juicy story and I look hopefully at the screen for a photo or video and there isn’t.
I loooove the courtroom footage!!
I loooove the courtroom footage!!
I'm diagnosed bipolar type 2 and I'd LOVE to personally thank that psychiatrist for her honest testimony. It pisses me off when people try to fake a mental illness to get away with murder. It makes those of us who do have mental health issues look like idiots. Good for her. She wasn't letting her spin that scenario to get away with it.
Nicole wasn't faking anything. It wasn't her who claimed she had schizophrenia. As Lazarou points out, Nicole saw herself as not mentally ill and actively tried to present herself as normal as possible. Taking her responses at face value was intellectually dishonest on her part.
As someone who grew up with BPD, I agree 👍.
@@lolahernandez6871 makes you wish these folks could really live a day in your shoes then maybe they wouldn't do this stuff.
@@mallorycannon3011 yes indeed.
REALisation:
Although killing someone does FUZZYduckn 🤬🦆🤔 show mental unstableness
#REALisation #FUZZYduckn #KeepnitREAL
the moment the father started crying in the beginning, after he recalled taking care of her as a baby, breaks my heart into pieces. He probably thought in that moment how things could have been different if he got custody.. or maybe the innocence of her as a baby.
@@lushpapaya9932 What’s that have to do with this case though? We don’t know the circumstances but that doesn’t change that fact that he wanted custody of Nicole, didn’t get it and sadly this is what happened
@@lushpapaya9932 It could be any number of things, honestly.
He might be glad he didn't get custody it could have been him that got shot in the head by that psycho
@@allencollins9951 😂 That is definitely the other way to look at it
He is sketchy. Repeating over and over that he alone took care of this monster & not directly answering the question about the relationship conflicts. He calls it a family system - cmon.
“She decided to go down a path that would provide housing for the rest of her life”. Good one
At least she’s back in an open dorm with community showers and free legal law library 📚 services.
@@ttke39 love your name
Clever comment!
I just clocked the word play as I read this comment lol
And no bills included. It's a win win for her.
I absolutely prefer these longer, about an hour or so long videos. they're so nicely put-together, & there's just so much information included & that helps to paint such a vivid mental picture of events & makes it so much more intriguing to listen to.
I love this channel.
Me toooo!!😁😁😁🌼🌼🦎🦎🌷🌷🐹🐹🐹
Same!!
Ditto 😃
You're right. An hour long! I'm on mobile. Maybe later.
Absolutely.
Excellent channel. No phony re-enactments. Just real footage, photos, and recordings. Clear explanations. Nice work.
I just came from a channel with a video discussing a woman escaping from where she was raped and tortured and the guy had an oversexualized animation of her running away with stock audio overlay of a woman panting while he did a terrible fake-dramatic voiceover. Of course his pinned comment said to subscribe and that his channel is comparable to Netflix and Hulu. I have never wanted to punch somebody more in my life
@@TimmyMcGowan Yew evvur half aye Huhwhyin Puntch?
@@megatherion2695yse
No way.😅😅
@@TimmyMcGowan channel name??
Anyone else feel bad for the brother? Seems like he just wanted a stable homr and family, poor guy.
U up?
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100%
Ya he was on the right track
I feel sorry for the brother the father and Nicole. Not that evil mother if hers at all sorry but I don't.
she decided to go down a path that would provide her housing for the rest of her life. 💀 savage 👌😭🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Savage is right! That opening was brilliant! Don’t let the UA-cam bullies tell you what you can or can’t comment. I came to the comments to make the exact same comment, and saw that you already commented what I was going to say. Disregard the keyboard warriors, your comment was right on point, just like the intro!
@@Jj1984. you must be fun at parties.
@savvy Wilson oh wow. I wasn’t being nasty or anything I didn’t mean for my comment to come across as rude. I feel
Really sorry for you. Really. You have a lot of issues. My uncle knew this family and that is why I wrote my comment. Get some help please. You obviously have a lot of issues.
@@Jj1984. you know, you just made my day. You seem like a genuinely nice person. I hope you have a great day.
At the start of the video when Nicoles dad is talking about how he always took care of her ever day when she was a baby, watching his emotions play out across his face is heartbreaking to watch. I'm crying for him..
Same poor man
The system is so biased against men when it comes to custody.
Makes you wonder if he'd raised her that she wouldn't have done such things.
@F Trakk I don't think he's looking for any kind of acknowledgement for that. It seems to me that his mind is arguing about whether he should have fought harder or if he should have been in a larger role in his daughter's life.
@F Trakk ... Dude the guy knowns his daughter's life is over... Maybe he thinks he could of changed that if the courts weren't biased as fuck to men! You are a piece of shit... you are literally doing the thing you accused him of.
I’m really trying to understand how not getting a dorm room translates to let me kill my family????
Then I'm not the only one. I don't get it either.
Exactly
You are not alone in that
Honestly it's as simple as getting away from your parents. Fucking psychotic, but that was probably the thought process.
No questions allowed! This logic makes sense! Eat that logic!!! Chew it up and eat it and then regurgitate it! Muahahaha 😈
“I like to say that genetics loads the gun, personality and psychology aim it, and your experiences pull the trigger.” - Jim Clemente; former FBI agent
*personality
Yeah right get real
Powerful statement
and sometimes they dont... u know....like in other instances when the lifes against someone and they dont all become murderers....
I can logicize this and agree that it makes sense. I plan to ponder relevant principles and pontificate further.
Holy crap. That brother Joe has lost basically his whole family. I hope he is doing alright.
That day she was found guilty Joey called the insurance company and collected the 750,000 dollar policy that was for nicole. He has never spoken to nicole since 2015. Never sent her a card never put one dime in her jail or prison commissary account. He claims his Dad abused him. After mom got custody he was taken to tampa from houston in 1997. He never again spoke to his Dad or saw him. He has PAS from the mom. He was alienated from his Dad. Dad Joe's brother is alive and saw him with his boys and Dad Joe's wife lisa too. Joey was never abused. I knew Joe Carey and he never once abused his boys. Kevin was left with stepmom lisa and Dad Joe in houston. Dad joe still had to pay mom for his child support. Joe and lisa took him to a counselor to help him but it didnt work. Intoxicated in his dad's new car he drove ut into a utility pole and killed himself in 2003. 1/2 mile Dad house in Houston. He buried the boy he loved. Mom never attended the funeral.
@@runningshoesus What a lot of information to unpack. Absolutely incredible, albeit with a terrible ending, I was hoping for somethjng else. Knowing all this I'm gonna rematch this and see if I cant pick up on some of it or catch something I may have missed be less informed. Thanks for all this information, it really puts a few things in perspective.
@@runningshoesus I’m sure the friends of abusers would also say that the person they knew was never an abuser, but you really don’t know because you were never with them 24/7 and never personally saw everything that happened between the two. Sometimes your own parent could abuse you and the other parent be none the wiser. You really don’t know and you have no ability to denounce any claims of abuse. If any claim is “I know the guy and I know he wouldn’t do that” it’s always made by someone who doesn’t know the complete picture ever. It’s why we have trials for these kinds of things and have a panel of jurors rather than relying on one person’s extremely biased testimony to exonerate a person.
@@kashinimeyo I have home videos of Nicole 2 to 2 10 months. She screams and cries mommy hurt me. What more do you need? Photos of bloody lips when Nicole returns from mom. I have video and pictures of swollen bloody lips when Nicole returns from mom. Of course a 2 year old is just seld reporting. You are fool
Losing your family of origin is not always a negative--his was so toxic he's a lucky guy. He has a wife and kids of his own now.
I wish that the courts had just awarded that poor man custody. He was the primary caretaker with no issues, why take that from him??
As a Saline county ,Arkansas, judge once told me (During my divorce hearing)....."Son, I ALWAYS give custody to the woman!"........
@@garychambers6848 sad but typically true
@@garychambers6848 and he'll 🔥 with them too 😤👌.
@@garychambers6848 That is wild, but my story is very similar. When I looked into getting custody of my son they basically said if she’s not on drugs or violent towards him specifically I have no shot. Nevermind her abusing me, “she’d never hurt him” so it’s fine 🤦🏽♂️
@@garychambers6848 If the mother is abusive or the child makes it clear that they want to live with dad, I think custody is given to the father of he's a safer option than living with the mother. I have a friend who is a single dad who was granted custody of his child, and sure it was nasty legal battle, but the mother was abusing the child.
The psychology testimony by the doctor was a relief and please to watch. She knew she was malingering and did not allow her to get away with such nonsense. Her testimony was brilliant and very convincing.
The abuse hotline and suicide prevention hotline information at the end is a very thoughtful addition. Thanks for that
One day I was watching TV, feeling sorry for myself because of some tax problems that I was having (being audited for the 15 millionth time). The guy said, "if you are feeling overwhelmed by life, we can help...call us." Sure, it was an actual ISSUE, not so e random "I feel sad" thing, but i thought they might have some advice. Not so much...they transferred me and transferred me (etc etc). I wanted to hang up, but they warned me that this could involve a police visit to ensure my safety....one woman was very excited to tell me that I was so very very lucky to be talking with an actual SUPERVISOR (!) not just some random volunteer, but that, sadly, she was just about to leave for her annual vacation, so she was going to transfer me again ("don't hang up !!")...the next woman told me that as it was almost 5 pm, she was just getting ready to leave for the day, but if I would promise (swear...pinky swear) not to commit suicide overnight, she would make sure that someone called me the next day between 8 and noon, would I please give her my phone number ? I laughed and said "don't you HAVE it ? Are you telling me that you don't have caller ID?" She said, "well sure we do, but I wanted your permission to use your number." To get her off the phone I gave her the number. Over the next 2 days, I ignored exactly 3 calls from them. That was it. Good job.
@@leanie5234 i don’t know what hotline you had a misfortune to call to, but those mentioned in the video are national i believe. and while even so every dispatcher can’t do perfect job and surely there’s some fuck ups here and there it
should be better. sorry to hear about your experience though, i can’t even call their job half-assed, but that’s not normal and it doesn’t make every hotline bad by default
@@leanie5234 I’m sorry to hear that, it just isn’t right. Was it just one of those television commercials or was it a federal agency?
@@leanie5234 systemic failure is all too common. Im so sorry. Thats why Im super skeptical about calling these numbers.
That isn’t to say these hotlines can’t help, but when theres super specific issues these people are not trained for, they often are super lackluster, or are not trained to deal with those aforementioned issues.
Trust issues don’t help either /:
@@leanie5234 "but they warned me that this could involve a police visit to ensure my safety"
And that right there will prevent 85% of anyone from ever calling one of those hotlines. Police don't belong anywhere near mental health aid.
I’m only 17 seconds in and the part where you said “housing for the rest of her life”, that’s a hell of an introduction to this case.
Thank you for your dedication to providing us such amazing insight into these cases!
Be well,
Jack
It’s definitely the part that hooked me! 😆😂
@@elizabeth_9746 Same here. I totally started laughing too. That was a great line & totally apropos to the story.
I’m a big fan of people named “Jack.” They’re creative, charming, talented, genuine, intelligent, and quite good-looking. Winky face.
@@jluchette ain’t it the truth!!!🤣😉
Jack, get back
C'mon before we crack
Lose your blues
Everybody cut Footloose
The brother... ugh. The pain and rawness in his voice just kills me. 😞 he lost everyone.
Doesn’t the brother die in a car wreck later on too?
@@adamjackson9988 I believe there was a second brother and he was in a car accident in the early 2000’s.
I just don’t get how you go from “I can’t get a dorm” to “imma kill my folks” so swiftly
She had been thinking about this for a long time you don't just snap like this, especially when opportunity turns its ugly head
And I still don't understand how those two things come together. What does not having a dorm room have to do with killing your mom and step-dad?!?! I guess it's good that we don't understand or we would be in as bad a state as her.
@@maureenstevens6824 Exactly!! Like when is even harming another person a thought??
she thought it would make a good alibi, if she is getting loaned the $100, and then checking in, then people will say she was busy with that... the whole scheme was hare-brained from the start.
Well they had money and she's having to borrow money .for 1 for 2 idk why she wouldn't have killed them if she had a dorm room?
I just love hearing the doctor pull apart the Schizophrenic theory. That woman must be amazing at her work.
She says they are malingering and psychopathic. Every case. She had her psychiatric license and forensic taken away. She committed perjury. She tried to sue the medical board. She admits she wasn't. It's in her lawsuit. The lawsuit is posted on Nicole's website
her job is to win.
She may not fit the criteria for schizophrenia, but she presents with some signs of autism. That doctor sounds hell bent on proving Nicole does not have schizophrenia, but fails to mention she might fit the criteria for another disorder. She is very loudly opinionated for someone who is there to provide unbiased evidence. It makes me wonder how biased she was when she evaluated Nicole, because if she was (and it sounds like she was), that seems a little unethical.
@@runningshoesus the lawyer has multiple licenses for psychologists in multiple states
@@alena1093 lazarou had a license in Illinois but let that lapse after her 100M lawsuit was dismissed against the psychiatrist board. She is probably in violation of those states laws since she still is only a general practitioner here. She commits perjury all the time. She recently filed for divorce, lost her million dollar house, sued its hoa and lost in court, filed for a domestic violence restraining order claiming her husband abuses her, filed a lawsuit for 50M against an orthopedic surgeon who 5 years ago took an xray of her arm, and of course she continues to claim her mom and dad sexually abused her, physically abused her and emotionally abused her. In the johchuck trial she testified she was catholic but her Facebook she posted about her big Jewish wedding. She is slime. Thus divorce will harm their children.
The poor brother, first their brother died, then both parents are murdered and he effectively loses his sister. She’s crazy evil.
I feel bad for that almost roommate too. Can you imagine?
Her mother would still be alive if she didn't constantly traumatize Nicole. That's torture after so long.
@@briannacc3983 You can't be serious.. You're actually disgusting.
@@fudgefudge8913 sure, murdering your tormentor is not a good reaction, but Brianna had a point (however strained). Try not to attack so easily.
@@leanie5234 your mom fat shaming you is basis for murder now?
"You can call me a Beast, but don't call me a Monster."
"Well, I'm gonna call her a Monster. It's kinda my thing." Nice.
You know he got excited when he heard him say that 😂
It's "his thing".
I haven't got to that yet, can't wait ..
Call it like you see it 😂😂
As a Beast myself, I can confirm she is definitely NOT a Beast.. and I'm rather insulted she'd try to insinuate she is one my kind... that rotten monster..
"She stopped studying history because there's no future in it."
That's so funny!
Don't worry about it, it's all in the past now. 🤣🤣
One of the best comment and reactions I've ever seen
@@KimberlyBishh somehow I don't think people have a sense of humour anymore.😊🤣
@@MelEveritt you’re right, many people have lost their sense of humor (or never acquired one to being with lol)
@@MeeMee-gz5vp I am hearing you loud and clear. 😊🤣
17:50 Oh god The poor Neighbor is obviously still shook from what happened/what he seen he’s trying his hardest to steady himself, He’s reliving what happened as he’s listening to the 911 call such a disheartening and heartbreaking situation all around
He is so fidgety because he relived the whole ordeal
Also look at his pits, poor dude was sweating bullets
Hey, you wanna go grab some tacos?
Atleast his daughter was in the closet hiding and didnt have 2 see a body... I know seeing murders and a few bodies when I was a kid bothered me alot for a long time...
I thought the same thing he's so uncomfortable that was hard to watch
The guy, Wesley who called 911 about the shots, looks like he’s suffering from severe anxiety over this incident.
That's the PTSD and/or Survivors Guilt.
He's a big B he should have went outside to see what was going on he could have saved someone.
@@blackjohnny9570 dude had a daughter imagine if he went out and got killed too, then his daughter would be an orphan
@@cats0oup true but I'm just speaking from my point of view, I had I situation were my my neighbor was screaming for help because someone broke into her house. Guess what? I didn't stay in the house and call the cops, I came to her aid and put my myself on the line but hey, everyone is different so to each his own.
@@blackjohnny9570 You’re such a badass bro wow bravo dude really what a hero, honestly
I love that you use actual court footage and that you’re not afraid to make an hour long video, definitely my favorite crime channel
Finally someone who doesn't put their big huge face all over the video and rambles about with 7 minute intros 😩😭🥰 I LOVE the way the monsters guy does videos!! Thanks for real footage, as well as your matter of fact demeanor ❤
TOTALLY agree. Other people inflate their videos with boring self indulgent b.s.
I don’t understand the trend of plastering your face everywhere. How about leave the victims the centerfold? Your content should speak for itself. If I have to look at your face I’m gonna cringe and flee.
Let's complain about something else we get for free, air, my gawd air, you know!?
💯👍
Thank you!
I understand there are quite a few people that actually do this well. However, there are so many (females mainly) who do the beauty/crime thing and just casually do makeup while narrating a story WHICH ISNT A STORY its an actual crime that has happened to actual people ! We don't need to see you ... Know what foundation you use. Why not tell the story. Show source clips and information? Seems easy enough to me.
Makes me feel uneasy and so horrible towards victims to see their story exploited in such a way. If you're gonna do it... Do it with respect and do it right.
I hate our justice system. They treat fathers like absolute trash.
All the great dads too! That's what gets me heated.
@Captain Obvious if they have both parents active in child’s life they are coParenting not single parent !! It’s sad how much percentage of 1 parent households has gone up.. I don’t know why anyone would brag about it & use child for finacial gain.. if you grown participating in sex with someone better be able to get along for lifetime !! Just because your relationship didn’t work doesn’t give anyone the right to use a child or court system for revenge - only in high risk situations but family courts are horrible at keeping or helping family unit !!
Beth.... please to the 4th power explain your avatar.
My late husband, a very kind man raised his children and children not even his by blood. One of them was my son. He did most of his child rearing alone after his wife and children's mother left. He loved them all. I met him last and we were married 21 years and I lost him to cancer. He was perfect(for me) as he would say. Love and miss you Dan
@@superdavelane4 it’s not a super complicated story. I made some bad choices...
Allegedly...
And my profile pic is my mug shot
Good independent production. What I enjoy about these is every single episode lasts a different amount of time. This tells me each story has its own factual length and all that is happening is your getting the whole set of facts needed to tell that story and it is done very very simply and at the same time very very well and in a concise manner. Well done .
How ironic is it to hear someone say “there’s no future in history” when we all know history will repeat itself in the future.
The future is just history for a further future.
Take a college course for a history degree and it'll make more sense
Not in making gawp 🤑
"‘Cos the future is in the future, and the past is a thick brick wall"
History is all about the future
“There’s no future in history” - one of the accidentally funniest lines ever!
Lol.....
US history is overflowing with a bunch of sadistic rapist and murderers they won't tell you about. Lots of lies
😂
Thanks for helping us folks with insomnia, Jiles.
really!
So true 👍✔ it helps. So thanks😊🙏
Yes
Honestly though!!!
I thought I was alone. Don't you hate when you routinely see the light come in when you have slept an hour? Like 💩.
That courthouse needs to fire their audio guy
not just fire him, put him on trial!
It could have been press showing up and stringing up their own microphones. Still, he should have given them a line out, but who knows what their install looks like
Immediately.
Imagine finding out your roommate killed their parents like the day before you met them
Just discovered this channel & its so badass! Excellent narration & cadence, clear & concise information & interesting clips of the trial. LOVE it!
Thanks so much!
She didn't even cry when she "found out" her mom was dead...
she was guilty-but that isn't an indication of guilt on it's own, i personally don't get typically "emotional" in situations like this until a few minutes, or hours- even days after receiving the news. Something inside my head just puts put that process on hold. I'm aware its quite common for people to display non-syncratic behaviours while experiencing grief.
She killed two people while returning to school. I am not organized enough to sign up for college. This was strange one. The professionals know best. Mother was mean it sounds. Should have killed her and claimed self defense and leave her husband alive. I do think it's interesting that it takes a while for some patients to get a schizophrenic diagnosis and these experts can do it in a few hours for murder cases. The shrink was annoyed at the other shrinks diagnosis and spent to much time discrediting her. She came across arrogant and condescending. If shrinks are so smart how come they can't always figure out if a patient is go to kill themselves or others and help them before they do it. The whole field of severe mental illness is interesting if you don't have it. Having schizophrenia is hell and destroys people's ability to live normal lives. Hearing voices is so painful and you have no control. All people can hope for is treatment to help manage their symptoms.
@@witchflowers6942 I am like that too. I don't respond emotionally until much later.
@Truth Is Vegan OMG, this kind of stuff really isn't for you IMO. Stick to puppies and sunshine wOw, ✔🙄
@Truth Is Vegan this is not a story about why people should be vegan. i'm a vegetarian and i can promise you are the archetype of why people think badly of vegans. weird loser
The way that Nichole reacted to her uncle telling her that her mom was dead is so telling. So cold, “ I’m fine??”
Windows Media Player. Now that's a program I have not seen in many years...
rip indeed
Play disk through windows media player, *click yes* unable to play cd through windows media player
i doubt it
I recently saw it (again) in a courtroom video clip that was on an episode of _Dateline._ I thought, "Oh. OK. I guess courtrooms think WMP a good program..."
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What I love the most is after the incidents & it’s something he doesn’t agree with he speaks his mind and says exactly what we are all thinking 🙌🏽💪🏽
You're cute.
"I got permission to enter the residence"
"Who gave you permission, a supervisor?"
"I made the decision."
He's the most polic-y talkin policeman I've ever heard
Imagine that, a cop that thinks they're above the law.
@@TsmithJustin who woulda thought
I got permission from myself to enter
I'm pretty sure he said " I did give permission to the deputies knocking at the door to go in". He was the supervisor on scene and the deputies needed permission from him.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. True
Yup. PERFECT. 4am eastern time, awake after bottle feeding our baby goats (they eat every 4 hours). Now hunkered back beneath the covers with this masterpiece! THANK YOU!
Awe baby goats are precious!!! Lots of work of course...you know those babies appreciate all you do!💜
Awwe
I wanna play with the baby goats!
We are currently bottle feeding 2 baby goats as well! Lol
@@staceyann1180 They've been VERY popular this past week, lots of visitors & helpers. Three babies needing a bottle every four hours means no lack of volunteers!
Very well done episode again! The angry psychologist absolutely destroying the fraud of the defense was glorious! She should be consulted in all such cases.
As satisfying as it was I'm pretty sure she's had her license revoked and was a total fraud herself
But, you know, that doesn't mean she wasn't totally correct in this instance.
@@OMalleyTheMaggot yes she seemed full of herself.
@@miasantos3316 and her voice was pure 'nails on a chalkboard' resonance
‘Well I’m gonna call her a monster…It’s kind of my thing’ 🤣🤣love your little add-ins….. always waiting for them
Love a long episode! Your voice is ideal for this kind of thing, very easy listening! Thanks
P.s. her college roommate now has the best r/crazyroommate story ever.
Well, there's that.
I want to read that story 👀
When I hear this voice say "This, is MONSTERS" I am instantly calm and in my zone....Thank you so much!!!
I can't understand a word that girl says on any of the phone calls! Are you sure she doesn't do the voice over of Charlie Brown and the Peanuts gang's school teacher??
It was very frustrating
Like yelling through an intercom at a fast food drive thru lol
HAHAHA....me neither.... I caught key words... then tried to figure rest out...🤣
For a moment I thought my English is getting worse
Same.
I really appreciate all the hard work you do in order to create these videos. Best true crime channel out there.
what a blessing to have a cousin like that. I don’t have one. I don’t have a single family member that I can call on for help at all.
Same here and I'm homeless
@@Northwest425 Ditto, my friend.
Sending virtual hugs to you both as that's all I can do. Remember, 'this too shall pass'. I have a messed up family who I had to cut contact with but thankfully I have a loving spouse and a handful of reliable friends. Seek out good people and nurture those friendships. You won't be alone forever, friend(s).
I’m here for you 😏
I love that you talk about cases that aren’t too well known. It seems like most crime channels all do the same big cases, which is pretty boring.
Just one of the reasons that I love this channel 🙏
Isaiah 45:7
" I am the LORD, and there is no other. I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. "
Is there any chance that when the audios bad you could put up subtitles? I’d be eternally grateful x
Very respectful way to ask. Kudos ^_^
There’s a little round button on your screen and all you have to do is turn on captions!
@@sharonsciba5647 that’s auto generated, and needless to say that isn’t much better than what I’m hearing lol
@@sharonsciba5647 On my screen, it's a square that is labeled, ``CC.''
You are asking a lot for viewing something you are NOT paying for.
That psychiatrist was not having any of her nonsense 😂😂😂 love her!
There is a huge gap in the market left by JCS. I'm discerning and think you may fill it fast. Your hard work is evolving beautifully. Thank you. Sarah UK
Matthew Orchard (maybe better than JCS), TT Criminological Breakdown, and LPR Presents 💪
What happened to jcs??
Well I thought JCS was finished because after regularly posting he produced nothing for 5 months or so, that's all.
@@lena5669 nothing happened, good content takes a load of time to make and most of us have full time lives outside of UA-cam
Oh yea that’s understandable. Glad nothing heinous happened
I was abused as a kid & I eventually fought back & hurt my father significantly, which stopped that abuse. He stopped coming home, but soon I had a car & I moved out. I can relate to living under abuse but according to this young woman's life, she no longer lived at home, so even if she had been abused, she had left the abuse, & had multiple places to get help from other family who seemed happy to help her.
Omg I’m so sorry. I hope you’re thriving now.
Excellent points!
Oo
Wow! That dr at 59:57 is amazing. She took the defense teams whole strategy apart, shredded it brick by brick and sounds disgusted that its even necessary to do so. I could listen to hear speak for hours. What an intelligent, sharp woman.
She is a paid testifier that went all in to try to win the case. The judge should not have allowed her to testify in the way she did as an expert. She was suppose to be an expert witness that should only be testifying in their field, she went way off of her expertise. A good defense would have discredited her testimony by addressing her testimony that said Nicole had killed anyone. As an expert you are not a witness to the crime. How can she testify about issues you have no direct knowledge of. Doesn't mean Nicole is innocent, just that the DR. went way beyond giving her expert opinion and should not have done that. The defense should have objected and the Judge should have stopped her when she went outside of her actual expertise.
@@timhartsock515 wrong
@@Drew_goo wrong how?
@@beauregardrippey5508he has no clue
@@swedishfish2543 i dont even remember watching this. Let alone commenting. 🤷🏼♂️
This story is far more complex than one might assume. The daughter was totally mentally abused by her mother. It's heartbreaking... No one is truly innocent in this story. I recommend the 'Sword and Scale' podcast episode for context.
I love the longer episodes!
Also the psychiatrist was A+. She was not standing for a fake diagnosis or excuse. We need more mental health professionals like her
She has seen people who really suffer with mental illness, and she wasn’t gonna let this murdering asshole use their real pain as an excuse.
Right. I can't stand even 20 minute videos on content like this.
She sued the medical board in 2017 for 100m. In 2017 she lost her psychiatrist license and forensic. The lawsuit says she lost these. It's in the clerk's records which you can access
@@runningshoesus what did she do to you
This person has probably 50 comments on here. Talking crazy shit about the good dr.
That intro was nothing short of gold.
I love when he gets a bit snarky
I know a girl like that.
@@NeonGamersHD
I like when people use words like "snarky". 🤭👍🏽
I'm quite the lagophile!
Love it! Ty!
@@bcfb2989 lol are you though? It's logophile
"You can call me a Beast, but don't call me a Monster."
"Well, I'm gonna call her a Monster. It's kinda my thing." ---*Savage*--
The mother was a psychopath. She was disrupting nicole care.
Best commentary ever!
The anderson report was phony. I had no contact with nicole for 3 months. Anderson had the mom bring nicole over. Nicole picked up a toy the beast of beauty and the beast and at 3 years 2 months said to me and anderson mommy monster. Nicole then picked up a toy sword and another doll. That doll she called mommy. She took the toy sword and stabbed the mommy doll twice in the abdoms and the tried to cut off the dolls head. Kids at 3 are not monsters. Joan Anderson left this out of her fake report. I filed it in a 1997 lawsuit which was denied. 18 years later nicole is in Washington sees a sword and buys it. Joey steals it. Nicole goes to tampa and calls joey and tells him she has a sword. A couple days later mom and Dienes are dead. The house police list had no sword. Nicole had the moms gun. Mom was shot twice in the abdomen and once in the head. Just like the Anderson dolls. I have my last video of nicole. Her lip is busted swollen and bloody. At 3 years old I asked her while my video camera was running. Who did this nicole. Nicole says mommy did that like hurt my ear. A 3 year old tells us on video her mommy is punching her in the mouth. I was order to supervised visitation. Nicole's left ear was damaged. The mom blamed me. 3 year old nicole tells us on video it was mom. You have it wrong. Mommy was psychotic the court system was the monster
@@runningshoesus I’m sorry, but you were personally involved in this? If so, how?
@runningshoeus She was taking care the best way she could. You didn’t been close to Nicole for so many years. She grown up without you. Stop telling lies around different websites about their family. It’s more to it.
I don't know why I'm binge watching these videos. In a weird way I guess it's an exercise of gratitude for being a decent person with a decent family. Isn't it great to just live a normal life with full potential? It's literally all we've got. Why ever risk it?
I don't understand why the hell she even killed them? I suppose she's literally just a Monster!!
Same. I’m trying to piece it together, but this one confounds me.
She was so pissed off about the dorm room I guess?
was she maybe thinking she would inherit maybe a small amount of money? enough to get an apartment? or inherit the house?
She really, really didn't want to live in the overflow housing...
He didn’t go into it much for some reason, but the mother was extremely cruel and verbally abusive. The mother endlessly criticized the daughter for her weight and being “ugly”and often smacked her for “walking like a man”. I’m not justifying her actions, but the mother cowed her into fearing any small mistake.
I've been watching a lot of crime videos (murders), and eventually UA-cam recommended "this is MONSTERS" to me, and I am very thankful for that. Thanks to you for doing this. If I was rich, I would support you, but since I'm not, saying thank you will have to do for now. :)
I can tell that Mr. Roe, once they start playing his second 911 call, starts feeling extreme anxiety, probably feeling like he might have a panic attack. He's putting his hands all over his face, which is a coping mechanism we sometimes use when feeling that sudden, overwhelming surge of fight or flight.
He even grips onto the seat of the chair with both hands, realizing what he was doing, I'm sure. He starts the face touching, face in hand movements shortly after, though. Poor guy, that must have been rough.
I’m here for this comment. I noticed as well and thought maybe we were gonna need a medic. I bet it’s been horrible thinking about what was going on next door 😬
Well I’m jumping on this bandwagon as well! At first I thought he was gonna be a suspect from how obviously nervous he was from the start…idk what I would do in his situation especially with my child possibly being in danger
Everyone is an Alexander Technique expert now lol
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't get the connection between the dorm and murdering her parents. I've listened to this 3 times and still don't understand. I can only guess it's maybe because if she didn't get the dorm room her mom would give her shit and she didn't want to hear it... again.
It does not, make sense. Just looking at her she looks, off. Not just the stress of the charges, jail, future sentence. She just looks detached.
Times like this that maybe eugenics should come back... (obvious joke,, ya'll calm down)
Maybe she did it because she thought her mother house would go to her if her mother was dead or for money.
@@denisegroce7135 Maybe you are right, but her actions still don't make a lot of sense to me. I mean her reason for killing her parents had something to do with thinking she wasn't going to have a dorm on campus. At one point I think she even said if she had gotten her dorm earlier she wouldn't have had to kill them, or words to that effect. I just don't get it at all. I think she was delusional or utterly irrational.
It makes perfect sense. Considering the tumultuous relationship with her mom, an arguement probably spurred between the two over the housing and how it'd effect her schooling. The arguement got physical and the mom ended up dead. This wasn't a premeditated crime, this was decades of abuse bottling up to an explosive endpoint.
@@PR0MAN01 Except that isn't at all what happened. Yes the mom was apparently emotionally abusive, but there wasn't some impromptu argument that lead to a crime of passion. Nicole snuck into the house, parking her car blocks away, killed her stepdad and then left. She then returned about a day later and shot mom in the driveway before mom could get inside and find stepdad. Nicole even tried to get into stepdad's email so that mom wouldn't become concerned or suspicious that she wasn't hearing from him. Did you even watch the same video? There was absolutely nothing to support your idea that Nicole and mom got into some big argument that lead to Nicole killing stepdad and mom. How would that even explain how stepdad was killed hours before mom and inside the house while he was apparently watching TV and eating chips and then mom was shot out on the driveway, again hours apart from one another?
The brother though on the stand. Feel bad for him.
Yeah testifying it nerve wracking....but to testify against ur Siss. Unimaginable
I can’t even imagine and for such a horrific crime
He probably wanted to say a whole lot more because he clearly wasn’t his mothers biggest fan.
I hope he lives a good life I cannot for one moment imagine how you live and get resolution about something like this.
I felt for the neighbor too. That had to be traumatizing.
Was he the one that died in a automobile accident later?
I hope this show gets picked up for a TV/Netflix show one day. The production is already great but it would be fun to see what you could do with a big budget and tons of resources.
Literally .... the cutest kitty EVER❣❣❣
TRUTH, this channel is TV worthy and deserves to their own network. I fully support this creativity 💚
It is going to get woke and unwatchable... You don't want big business to get a hold of it.
Independent is the way these days.
It's not that great. Most of it's courtroom footage and information that's already known.
Netflix would probably ruin it
These hour episodes are surely going to increase your view count and followers. I think I came when you had about 5K followers. I'm happy to see the blow up and can't wait till you hit 1million plus!. I'm going to consider myself a "Day 1" fan when that happens...well actually in my head I already do lol. Keep up the great work! Rooting for you
Thanks for sticking around!
Same, same
Aww dat sweet, right he deserves it!! ❤️
It's way too long. Really padded out. Ton of redundancy, stuff that really doesn't add anything, boring details. So it's gonna lose a few as well. Guys like Matthew Orchard also do long format but weave an entire narrative, with unexpected angles as well as their own take. It is enthralling. This put me to sleep!!
@@thisisMONSTERS Have you ever or will you ever do a live chat with questions from your fans and answers?
Dr. *Emily Lazarou,* Psychiatrist for the Prosecution took the stand and tore Nicole to shreds! Brains, Beauty + Brawn! You GO girl 👊🙋♀
she's kind of hot
I thought Nicole was murdered
@@Walczykwtf 😂
Thank you for not destroying your channel with adverts, very well done 👍🏻
Does anyone love this doctor as much as I do right now? She obliterated the defenses argument, that Nicole was schizophrenic.
She’s good in this context, but I don’t think I would want someone who sounds like judge Judy as my therapist.
Nope. She's very loud, pushy and opinionated. Like MY OPINION IS RIGHT AND NOBODY HAD BETTER DARE DISAGREE WITH ME. Seems like she has some issues of her own.
@@TawnyC_ because she was right? Lol
@@TawnyC_ that's how you need to be if you want to be taken seriously in court. You can't doubt your own statements.
As someone that has dedicated my life to the study of criminal psychology I was absolutely floored by the prosecution's psychological rebuttal. I did not catch the womans name but she truly had a presence in that courtroom like few have. Everything she said about abnormal persecution ideation, no history of hallucinatory episodes, and the average responses of the defendant was so incredibly crucial that she alone won the case for the prosecution. I have never been called to present findings in a criminal case and I doubt I ever will. However, if that ever happens I sincerely hope that I am not tasked with facing off against her. She practically discredited the defense's psychologist so soundly that I can't see them being called back for anymore cases in the near future and she was being nice...wow!
Polite and professional, she eviscerated the defense.
Cool story bro!
@@teo5836
It wasn't a cool story, the entire event was caught on camera. I merely gave my professional opinion and respect to one who is clearly at the top of their game. She is one helluva litigator and I still stand by my previous statement. I would not want to spar with her in a courtroom setting...a debate perhaps but not in open court.
Thankfully, the chances of us ever going at it in court are slim to none. We are not in the same state, city, and district nor am I such a known entity that I would be called to assist in a case outside of my jurisdiction. Further, as I work in academia I'm pretty far removed from the action...so to speak. I'll take the classroom over life and death situations any day of the week.
@@Sinn0100 wow, do you have time to tell me more stuff??
@@teo5836
Only if you have anything of substance to add! Come on, wow me...
The cops here are really quick to determine death. When I was in the army, we were taught that we were not allowed to declare someone dead without medical professionals, and not to refrain from life saving measures unless the head was detached from the body.
Do you think maybe they had to make decisions based on the assumption that the shooter was still in the area, possibly in the house? The mom was unresponsive and there was only one deputy at the scene initially, so he called EMS. He would have been a sitting duck trying to resuscitate her if the shooter was there. Also, the dad was dead for a couple of days by then. I think you could probably tell he was dead by looking at him. I could be wrong about all of it, but I assumed they didn't try CPR for these reasons. I know in battle you have to assess whether it is safe to render aid at that moment on top of determining death.
Exactly. They are first responders and absolutely should render aid.
Wasn’t he dead a few days before they discovered him? I imagine he was dead as dead could be and it would be obvious for terrible reasons
@@annacostello5181 It was in reference to the woman found shot outside the house.
Dang, that's some dedication!
Yoooo real shit, this girl was in my English class in highschool. She was also on the track team with me. Very interesting individual. Something was definitely off with her. But to be 100% honest i wasn’t surprised when I found out about all this
Yikesss!!!!
I would have picked on her... and ended up dead lol
Lies
@@malcolmblacctheicon Sickles High School class of 2013. Don’t have any reason to lie
She’s was in the Track Team group photo senior year in the yearbook
"No future in history" is priceless.
I thought the same.
But totally incorrect
@@personalcheeses8073 you only need to read Yuval Noah Harari's books to understand the importance of history and the knowledge a historian can provide about the future.
Lol just read and heard that part ha
Omg 😂 I spit out my drink when I heard that
I'm in south Africa and just discovered monsters wow I'm impressed with the upload I'm addicted thanks for the great views
“I’m in South Africa and just discovered monsters wow I’m impressed”…
I found this channel three days ago and this is the 23rd episode I have watched! 😆 🤣
Channel is 💯
Interesting story.
Suggestion: Captions on the phone calls would help. I can’t understand any of it.
Yes, the audio quality is horrible.
Yeah I turned on captions on you tube but the wording was off. I was hoping by me doing that I could at least make out some of it..
Knowing you dont waffle unnecessarily, Over an hour long Video? Yes Please. BRING IT 👍
Season 3 of "This is monsters" is truly exceptional !!
"Whoops, I fucked up applying for college housing. Guess I'll murder my parents." I'm not following the line of thinking here.
Yea usually there's some twisted fucked up plan behind these murders but this one is just plane senseless
I kept waiting for them to explain the throughline. Just graduate a semester late girl, it'll be okay
It’s probably a good thing that you cannot follow the thinking here. It means you’re not a psychopath. But yeah it makes no sense. I feel that the brothers testimony is a little weird. I wonder 💭
Prison housing
Money, dude. Always follow the money. With her parents dead, she would inherit some money, which could be used to rent an apartment or whatever near the college.
The call starting at 29:58 could really do with subtitles, due to how blown out it is. But otherwise the video was fantastic. Well done putting this together!
Just turn on captioning on your phone, it basically is 2 clicks away!
@@sharonsciba5647 yeah I did. But it is auto generated and it only makes out a few clear words. 😩
Thanks for the tip ,you're doing a great service to humanity , héroes like you don't always wear capes
@@sharonsciba5647 that shit doesn't even work on perfectly clear audio why tf would it work on this unintelligible phone call?
Yup. Couldn’t make out a word of it. UA-cam caption says “um... music ... applause....um ... “.
Thanks once again for the excellent video. There is one hour of my life I didnt feel was wasted. Much appreciated & looking forward to another
As a guy who majored in History, I can testify that she is right about that.
Still, it's so interesting. Do you teach history now ? Or in a competely different field of work? Like my husband lol
@@jello12345 I am completely in a different field of work now. Digital Marketing mostly PPC (like Google Ads) and SEO work
@@shahab814 that's cool. Have to go where the salary is. But conversations with historians are awesome ! So hopefully no regrets about all the papers and research you had to do in school :)
Had a recruiting interview w a Dean of history at a small college & he listed several notable people that were history majors. Mostly in government & academia. "Those who don't study history are bound to repeat it." -some famous guy.
Great video! Thank you for all of your hard work for us. Wishing you a very Merry Christmas!❤️🎄❤️🎄❤️🎄
She does have some issues but schizophrenia nope! Oh and as usual A big Thank you for the suicide prevention and the abuse hotlines! I lost both my daughter and then my husband to suicide. It's not easy being the survivor of that! Thank you!
I have lost the most important people in my life as well and I feel for you, Marsha. I share your pain and I wish you the very best. Much respect from Michigan.
My heart goes out to you❤️
I know this is coming from a stranger on the internet but you're an inspiration to people. You're incredibly strong to be able to keep going after such losses. I truly hope you are in a happy place in life and doing well.
You stay strong too!
All the best to you,
may your life be one of happiness God bless you. AMEN
"PCS Criminal Psychology also watches this channel".
I'm glad the lovely algorithm brought me here!
Me too!
Same! Lol
jcs?
@@micalahjones75 Jim can’t swim
Love this channel from Namibia 🇳🇦 and the research was thoroughly done on each of the monsters!
I did social work and counseling for 15 years. The psychiatrist is absolutely correct. This girl is NOT schizophrenic. She planned this in a very cold-blooded and calculated way. She knew exactly what she was doing. She thought about doing this for a long time…she IS a monster.
I love how whenever some woman is being accused of murder and is in court their attorneys have them dressed like they're a nun or a little innocent school girl. Give us a break we know that's when for sure you're the monster
LMBO!!!! I'm a woman I was looking at that outfit like, she looks even crazier wearing that shit throw her and that outfit in the trash, haha, LMBO!!!
It worked for Casey Anthony
Jodi Arias with her micro bangs and glasses😂😂😂
I wanted to dress nicole
I hadn't seen her in 18 years. I don't think they over dressed her
Most likely her attorney told her to dress conservative in an effort to make her "appear" more innocent. Especially in the South where many courts tend to lean towards being more conservative, many people are advised to play up the appearance. It's amusing, especially when you know that the individual IS a monster.
"No future in history"
I'll have to remember that gem.
Yep,her future is history!!
It is widely agreed upon that this video was posted with what may be described as "Perfect Timing"
this is MONSTERS, awesome channel, thank you. I'm a dedicated true crime watcher, and you are extremely skilled. Very professional and cogent storytelling.
I must say that doctor who testified was on point. She clearly knows her shit.
I thought she was a psychiatrist not a gastroenterologist...
She is so passionate about what she is saying. I love it
@@jimbob-robob LMFAOOOOOOOO
I'm not sure she's being 100% truthful in her statements. I had a close friend with paranoid schizophrenia. Schizophrenics don't necessarily live in delusions all the time. They are capable of executive functioning (my friend self-medicated with heroin, and he was certainly capable of getting money and scoring no matter how bad his paranoia got). Also it should be noted that schizophrenia doesn't usually develop until people are in their 20s, so the fact that she never exhibited it sooner is not necessarily a deal-breaker.
@@margaret6839 You should have testified for the defense lol
Nothing tops my insomnia off like a good dose of my anxiety medication and MONSTERS.
Do you ever think your have anxiety and can’t sleep because your watch too much MONSTERS? Or is that just me. 😩😭😂
Dont watch monsters. It Will heighten your anxiety
Watch MrBallin...yikes
Same
Me... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I do think she was very afraid of her mother. I think her mother was emotionally annihilating and Nicole couldn’t face having to tell her that she’d messed up getting her school housing. That’s what Nicole meant when she said “she was going to kill me”. It was a metaphor. Nothing justifies what Nicole did and she needs to be in prison for life. But if her mother was the malignant narcissist that other investigations insinuate she was, this begins to make a certain kind of sense.
I had to move back home and live with my mother in my early 20s and she is a malignant narcissist. I did want her to die, but I considered killing myself first.
@@mindrolling24 I'd rather be homeless, Dude. I've been homeless 3 times in shelters/hostels. My mom was like come home. I was like hell no. Now I've got my own brand new government funded rental apartment where I can stay as long as I like as long as I pay the rent and don't cause trouble. Been here near 5 years now. Peace at last.
@@marleyhill34 My mother acted like she was doing me an enormous favour and that she didn’t want me back yet I was the one who did all the cleaning and cooking etc. She’s in her mid 80s now and wonders why no one likes her. She treated my and my brother’s kids as she did us- fawning over one and actively hating the other for no apparent reason so they all hate her as well. You reap what you sow.
@@mindrolling24 I would walk out, to be honest and go and stay somewhere else until I calm down. When I do that now, my parents get the message loud and clear that I'm here out of duty and loyalty but not for play play or there would be a mutiny.
Idk.. if you're an adult.. you can just leave your parents and never speak to them again.. I left even sooner while I was 17 and still in high school by getting emancipated. I didn't once think.. "oh.. best answer is to murder my mother." People that resort to that are subhumans and deserve to go to hell. Past history of verbal abuse be damned.
Dr Lazerou delivered a beat down! loved it 😍