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@@ModernCentrist Realistically I think you could make just the bottom bit (MT-300) for ~$1-2k. The bearings alone will run $500-1000, but if you have your own woodworking & machine shop I don't see how you'd have a problem making the rest of it yourself. I'm not sure where you would source the belts from though. Everything above the base (desk, seats, etc.) can't cost more than a few hundred to make yourself, so I certainly don't know where all the cost comes from there.
It's absolutely overpriced, but nothing worse than a rolex, or a supercar. Investing in your health is essential, and this item guarantees that you'll be able to keep physically active while working, and « potentially » avoid dying of any disease.
04:33 The laptop screen isn't supposed to jiggle like that, it would fatigue your eyes over time. I'm surprised with all those tons of wood and metal that it still doesn't seem to achieve rock solid stability. So I guess a decoupled desk is a must.
I totally agree from my personal experience with working while walking. Also proper height is a must - laptop screen just doesn't cut it unless you don't mind a bent neck spine.
Any treadmill with attached desk does this, I have another attached desk treadmill it does this same thing I higher recommend you do not get any attached desk.
Your previous reviews made me buy the original walkolution and raise my original standing desk so it works with the walkolution. the Kybun is really nice but for twice the price for a normal income it is a very high investment.
Hi Lungu Teo, that’s awesome to hear your feedback and that my video helped you with your decision making. Sounds like you’re very happy with it. It definitely is an investment, I agree. Luckily there are two versions. Do you use the standard versions with shoes or barefoot?
thank you very much for the review, Chris. One more question: My Walkolution will arrive eventually next week and I am wondering, if I should do something to protect the floor of our rental apartment. I was thinking e.g. of a yoga mat or something similar. What are your thoughts on that? Would that harm the stability of the walkolution? Is the rubber of the feet good enough?
I've had my Walkolution for a couple of months now, and I hope you don't mind me butting in to answer your question. It's a heavy piece of equipment! ( weighs around 80 kg). The wheels are not rubber-coated, so for a soft floor in need of extra care, I would definitely use the metal "feet" that come included. There are some protective pads on the feet, and you could easily replace/add to them. A yoga mat would possibly work. I don't think it would harm the stability, as it would be very compressed by the weight of it all. Still, it would cover a much larger area than necessary. You only really need to worry about the four points under the metal feet. Good luck, and enjoy walking while working!
Sorry for not seeing this comment sooner. I never really worried about this (on wood / "Laminat" floors). However, most of the time I did use the Feet that come with the Walkolution. Those make the whole thing nice and stable and in addition protect the floor more. The rubber on them is very helpful.
@@Nekro9000 one competitor, the Nohrd Sprintbok, just resells a Chinese whitelable. ~1200€ in China. So i would guess those are quite expensive, which is maybe related to low production capacity because of low demand.
Awesome stuff. Main downsides I see it that for me as a tall dude, it would probably not work with other sit/stand desks unless I'd place another riser on it. seems the Ara desk can go lower than 100 cm, that seems a bit of a missed opportunity. Now it NEEDS to be a second desk, it can't be a one and only desk used for sitting and standing. I'd now have to buy an extra $$$$ monitor setup and keep a second desk just to have the sitting experience, and then it makes sense to also use that one as a normal standing desk, as for the Ara you'd need to drag the treadmill away.
I found the same thing. I understand that for stability, the higher legs on the Ara Desk are kind of necessary. But it would have been incredible to use the Ara desk for both scenarios.
Thanks for the review! Would you say a back support is worth it when you're using the walking pad with your own desk where you can't move the tabletop back and force? I could imagine that it's too much in front and you can't continue to work when you lean back.
Do you notice a difference in heartrate/muscle workout on the hard vs soft surface? Walk in the beach as an extreme example take a lot more out of us (in a good way).
This review was more about the walkolution in general and the different desk settings. I‘m a little bit disappointed as I expected more information just about the Kybun and the feeling while walking on it.
How long have you had the Walkolution and how are you liking it so far? Do you use it a lot? I was considering getting the original as well. The Kybun version does not seem double the price; considering it's pretty much just fancy foam, the wood of the original seems like a more high-end (and possibly more robust) choice. But it's hard to find reviews other than this one and a somewhat skeptical account from TNW.
hi @@Liza-d2i , I’ve been using the standard version for over a year and the Kybun for about 3 months. In the time I used it, the Kybun did not show any wear - but I can’t make a judgement about years down the line. The founder told me that you should be able to do at least a million steps on it.
@@ChrisSpiegl Thank you; I realized I replied to the wrong parent comment. I was actually wondering what @Lungu Teo thinks of his Walkolution as well, since he purchased it based on your videos as well. But appreciate your additional feedback nonetheless.
@@ChrisSpiegl Hm. 1 000 000 steps is actually not that many if you think about it. Many people suggest you should walk 10 000 steps a day, so that gives you about 100 days of this pace? So at least a million steps means at least 3-4 months?
@ChrisSpiegl, for long, complicated programming sessions when walking would not be ideal, do you sit at the Walkolution Ära using a stool and the included backrest, or do you find that you move to a separate, traditional desk/table/chair? I'm wondering if the Walkolution Ära would be suitable as my only desk (I do a lot of programming but don't have enough space for two desks). Thanks
Yea, that is a situation… I did use a one-leg stool on the Walkolution as well as a gymnastics ball. Both worked fine. But I must say that for long programming sessions I found my regular desk / office chair setup more comfortable. When you find a chair that goes high enough, you may be able to get that going more comfortably. I just looked it up, something like this is what I'd try: www.amazon.com/dp/B0D7HJBGWF?tag=cstrax-20
Do you find the mushiness of the Kybun version more tiring to walk on than the firmer original version? I’m debating between the two… of course, the cost is better on the original, but there’s no where near me I can try them here in the USA, so trying to gather more information. Thank you if you reply.
I prefer walking on the Kybun - especially barefoot or with socks. If anything, I found the original wooden planks more tiring on my feed when barefoot because it was harder and a little more of a “chafing” feeling.
When you "lean backwards" on the Walkolution, it stops the pad from moving under you and you can take a break. I have not "specifically" tried to turn around and walk backwards, but I may have done it in a call or something. The Walkolution generally feels very natural to walk on.
Do you feel it affects your body/muscular structure because you stop the normal flow of walking movement by placing your arms on the desk (instead of letting them swing on the sides of your body when walking naturally)?
I have been walking at work with motorized treadmills for the past 4 years and I feel no difference from normal walking. It's not a replacement for exercise, just a way to keep my spine from getting damaged from prolonged sitting. Not sure if that's your use-case.
@@miroslavkutak9430I think that’s the use case for me I mean, make no mistake, walking will burn more calories than sitting. But yea, it’s not a replacement for STR or HIIT training. I already have an aeron and my back is still fucked. I’ll spend hours walking outside a day for relief, but then I get nothing done. I’ve pretty much accepted I need a treadmill, but man they are expensive, this one is nuts.
Hey Chris in einigen deiner Videos wirkt es als der integrierte Tisch beim Auftritt schon deutlich wackelt / vibriert. Ist dem so ? Ich frage mich ob diese Vibration eine größeren Monitor zum schwingen bringen würde.
Ich würde immer den Freistehenden Tisch bevorzugen. Persönlich habe ich mit dem Integrierten bei langsamen Geschwindigkeiten zwar auch arbeiten können aber es hat deutlich besser mit dem Freistehenden funktioniert.
Anyone with experience - do you have to force yourself or do you keep on walking naturally? I have been using motorized treadmills at work up until now and their benefit is that they push you do walk, so you don't stop if you start concentrating, thus making more steps during the day. If I use stationary bike, I stop after a while and then have to remind myself which kind of defeats the purpose and my bike turns into an uncomfy chair.
I find that on an electric under desk treadmill it is easier to do "more steps" by the end of the day because you just "set it and forget it" so you keep walking more. On the manual Walkolution, I had to sometimes remember I wanted to walk and continue, which I think I also mentioned in this or another video about the Walkolution. However, this also means that you are more flexible about when you walk and when you stand or lean back for whatever task you are working on. One more point: I found the Walkolution more tiring, since you "are the motor" and need more energy. So, less steps, does not necessarily mean less energy used.
Hey how tall are you? I worried about this being too short I am 6'2 without shoes and worried I will need to buy a lift for my computer to not have my hands a bad angle.
You can get the built in table at whatever hight you need. But the problem you are describing is exactly the reason why I would always take the free standing table that's hight adjustable!
It does not feel as nice and long term is probably not ideal for your joints since it has very little cushioning / dampening. The Kybun version on the other hand is very soft and perfect for barefoot walking.
A review from "a fan" of the Treadmill , who is sponsored and also gets bonus if someone buy. The shaking table attached to the Treadmill is a complete mess. Your review not reliable.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I am transparent about the things you are talking about, and every person can make their own decision if they believe me or not. I only talk abut products that I want to talk about, and I only say what I would tell a friend who's considering purchasing this product.
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The price of these things is absolutely ridiculous! Ten thousand dollars??? Really?
To add 20 vibrant years to your life and skip the gym forever... ;-)
There are bound to be copycats on the market now or soon.
@@Cloxxki yeah... There will definitely be some competition because these things cost $200 to make.
@@ModernCentrist Realistically I think you could make just the bottom bit (MT-300) for ~$1-2k. The bearings alone will run $500-1000, but if you have your own woodworking & machine shop I don't see how you'd have a problem making the rest of it yourself. I'm not sure where you would source the belts from though.
Everything above the base (desk, seats, etc.) can't cost more than a few hundred to make yourself, so I certainly don't know where all the cost comes from there.
It's absolutely overpriced, but nothing worse than a rolex, or a supercar. Investing in your health is essential, and this item guarantees that you'll be able to keep physically active while working, and « potentially » avoid dying of any disease.
@@SoPeter216 Can you really work efficiently while walking? I tried on a treadmill and wasn't able to focus on typing and walking at the same time.
04:33 The laptop screen isn't supposed to jiggle like that, it would fatigue your eyes over time. I'm surprised with all those tons of wood and metal that it still doesn't seem to achieve rock solid stability. So I guess a decoupled desk is a must.
I totally agree from my personal experience with working while walking. Also proper height is a must - laptop screen just doesn't cut it unless you don't mind a bent neck spine.
Any treadmill with attached desk does this, I have another attached desk treadmill it does this same thing I higher recommend you do not get any attached desk.
Holy fuck this thing is too expensive
A year later I'm curious how the foam is holding up on the kybun version.
Your previous reviews made me buy the original walkolution and raise my original standing desk so it works with the walkolution. the Kybun is really nice but for twice the price for a normal income it is a very high investment.
Hi Lungu Teo, that’s awesome to hear your feedback and that my video helped you with your decision making. Sounds like you’re very happy with it. It definitely is an investment, I agree. Luckily there are two versions.
Do you use the standard versions with shoes or barefoot?
@@ChrisSpiegl Did you read his comment? He was saying it is a very high investment (too expensive).
Sounds like you didn’t read it. Lungu Teo wrote that he owns a Walkolution. Just the higher price model was too expensive.
thank you very much for the review, Chris.
One more question: My Walkolution will arrive eventually next week and I am wondering, if I should do something to protect the floor of our rental apartment. I was thinking e.g. of a yoga mat or something similar. What are your thoughts on that? Would that harm the stability of the walkolution? Is the rubber of the feet good enough?
I've had my Walkolution for a couple of months now, and I hope you don't mind me butting in to answer your question. It's a heavy piece of equipment! ( weighs around 80 kg). The wheels are not rubber-coated, so for a soft floor in need of extra care, I would definitely use the metal "feet" that come included. There are some protective pads on the feet, and you could easily replace/add to them. A yoga mat would possibly work. I don't think it would harm the stability, as it would be very compressed by the weight of it all. Still, it would cover a much larger area than necessary. You only really need to worry about the four points under the metal feet.
Good luck, and enjoy walking while working!
Sorry for not seeing this comment sooner. I never really worried about this (on wood / "Laminat" floors). However, most of the time I did use the Feet that come with the Walkolution. Those make the whole thing nice and stable and in addition protect the floor more. The rubber on them is very helpful.
Sadly those are quite expensive, with a price way beyond 2000€. Sad, for ~1000-1500€ I would consider it.
I can see you'r point and am hopeful that they might bring out an option for this price bracket at some point.
I'm struggling to see how it can even cost 2k euros, how much does it cos them to build?
@@Nekro9000 one competitor, the Nohrd Sprintbok, just resells a Chinese whitelable. ~1200€ in China. So i would guess those are quite expensive, which is maybe related to low production capacity because of low demand.
Awesome stuff. Main downsides I see it that for me as a tall dude, it would probably not work with other sit/stand desks unless I'd place another riser on it. seems the Ara desk can go lower than 100 cm, that seems a bit of a missed opportunity. Now it NEEDS to be a second desk, it can't be a one and only desk used for sitting and standing. I'd now have to buy an extra $$$$ monitor setup and keep a second desk just to have the sitting experience, and then it makes sense to also use that one as a normal standing desk, as for the Ara you'd need to drag the treadmill away.
I found the same thing. I understand that for stability, the higher legs on the Ara Desk are kind of necessary. But it would have been incredible to use the Ara desk for both scenarios.
Thanks for the review!
Would you say a back support is worth it when you're using the walking pad with your own desk where you can't move the tabletop back and force?
I could imagine that it's too much in front and you can't continue to work when you lean back.
Do you notice a difference in heartrate/muscle workout on the hard vs soft surface? Walk in the beach as an extreme example take a lot more out of us (in a good way).
I found it a bit more straining to walk on the soft surface. I have not measured heart rate difference.
This review was more about the walkolution in general and the different desk settings. I‘m a little bit disappointed as I expected more information just about the Kybun and the feeling while walking on it.
How long have you had the Walkolution and how are you liking it so far? Do you use it a lot? I was considering getting the original as well. The Kybun version does not seem double the price; considering it's pretty much just fancy foam, the wood of the original seems like a more high-end (and possibly more robust) choice. But it's hard to find reviews other than this one and a somewhat skeptical account from TNW.
Thank you for this feedback. I hope that my video still gave you some good information about the feeling and function of the Kybun.
hi @@Liza-d2i , I’ve been using the standard version for over a year and the Kybun for about 3 months. In the time I used it, the Kybun did not show any wear - but I can’t make a judgement about years down the line. The founder told me that you should be able to do at least a million steps on it.
@@ChrisSpiegl Thank you; I realized I replied to the wrong parent comment. I was actually wondering what @Lungu Teo thinks of his Walkolution as well, since he purchased it based on your videos as well. But appreciate your additional feedback nonetheless.
@@ChrisSpiegl Hm. 1 000 000 steps is actually not that many if you think about it. Many people suggest you should walk 10 000 steps a day, so that gives you about 100 days of this pace? So at least a million steps means at least 3-4 months?
@ChrisSpiegl, for long, complicated programming sessions when walking would not be ideal, do you sit at the Walkolution Ära using a stool and the included backrest, or do you find that you move to a separate, traditional desk/table/chair?
I'm wondering if the Walkolution Ära would be suitable as my only desk (I do a lot of programming but don't have enough space for two desks). Thanks
Yea, that is a situation… I did use a one-leg stool on the Walkolution as well as a gymnastics ball. Both worked fine. But I must say that for long programming sessions I found my regular desk / office chair setup more comfortable.
When you find a chair that goes high enough, you may be able to get that going more comfortably. I just looked it up, something like this is what I'd try: www.amazon.com/dp/B0D7HJBGWF?tag=cstrax-20
@@ChrisSpiegl Thank you Chris, that's very helpful!
Do you find the mushiness of the Kybun version more tiring to walk on than the firmer original version? I’m debating between the two… of course, the cost is better on the original, but there’s no where near me I can try them here in the USA, so trying to gather more information. Thank you if you reply.
I prefer walking on the Kybun - especially barefoot or with socks. If anything, I found the original wooden planks more tiring on my feed when barefoot because it was harder and a little more of a “chafing” feeling.
@@ChrisSpieglthank you for your reply! Do you find the Kubun material wearing down at all? Does it seem durable?
how long will that foam last?
I was told it lasts for millions of steps. However, as far as I am informed, the Kybun version is no longer for sale.
U could wear minimalistic sandals on the 700
Have you tried backwards walking?
When you "lean backwards" on the Walkolution, it stops the pad from moving under you and you can take a break. I have not "specifically" tried to turn around and walk backwards, but I may have done it in a call or something. The Walkolution generally feels very natural to walk on.
@@ChrisSpiegl Chris Thank you, I was interested in the 'knees over toes" movements, where you turn your backside toward the front
can’t find the ones with padding
That's interesting. I checked their website and it looks like they may no longer be offering this model.
Do you feel it affects your body/muscular structure because you stop the normal flow of walking movement by placing your arms on the desk (instead of letting them swing on the sides of your body when walking naturally)?
I have been walking at work with motorized treadmills for the past 4 years and I feel no difference from normal walking. It's not a replacement for exercise, just a way to keep my spine from getting damaged from prolonged sitting. Not sure if that's your use-case.
@@miroslavkutak9430I think that’s the use case for me
I mean, make no mistake, walking will burn more calories than sitting. But yea, it’s not a replacement for STR or HIIT training.
I already have an aeron and my back is still fucked. I’ll spend hours walking outside a day for relief, but then I get nothing done.
I’ve pretty much accepted I need a treadmill, but man they are expensive, this one is nuts.
Hey Chris in einigen deiner Videos wirkt es als der integrierte Tisch beim Auftritt schon deutlich wackelt / vibriert. Ist dem so ? Ich frage mich ob diese Vibration eine größeren Monitor zum schwingen bringen würde.
Ich würde immer den Freistehenden Tisch bevorzugen. Persönlich habe ich mit dem Integrierten bei langsamen Geschwindigkeiten zwar auch arbeiten können aber es hat deutlich besser mit dem Freistehenden funktioniert.
@@ChrisSpieglich fühle mich bestätigt. Mich stört nur dass der separate Tisch 80 cm tiefe hat. Ist mit etwas zu tief
How is it to walk in without the standing desk to hold on to?
I did show the noise of the original one in my comparison video here: ua-cam.com/video/xBQ2Wokk9DM/v-deo.html
Anyone with experience - do you have to force yourself or do you keep on walking naturally? I have been using motorized treadmills at work up until now and their benefit is that they push you do walk, so you don't stop if you start concentrating, thus making more steps during the day. If I use stationary bike, I stop after a while and then have to remind myself which kind of defeats the purpose and my bike turns into an uncomfy chair.
I find that on an electric under desk treadmill it is easier to do "more steps" by the end of the day because you just "set it and forget it" so you keep walking more. On the manual Walkolution, I had to sometimes remember I wanted to walk and continue, which I think I also mentioned in this or another video about the Walkolution.
However, this also means that you are more flexible about when you walk and when you stand or lean back for whatever task you are working on.
One more point: I found the Walkolution more tiring, since you "are the motor" and need more energy. So, less steps, does not necessarily mean less energy used.
Hey how tall are you? I worried about this being too short I am 6'2 without shoes and worried I will need to buy a lift for my computer to not have my hands a bad angle.
You can get the built in table at whatever hight you need. But the problem you are describing is exactly the reason why I would always take the free standing table that's hight adjustable!
Damned expensive
What is wrong with walking barefoot on the original version?
It does not feel as nice and long term is probably not ideal for your joints since it has very little cushioning / dampening. The Kybun version on the other hand is very soft and perfect for barefoot walking.
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Hello 😅
A review from "a fan" of the Treadmill , who is sponsored and also gets bonus if someone buy. The shaking table attached to the Treadmill is a complete mess. Your review not reliable.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I am transparent about the things you are talking about, and every person can make their own decision if they believe me or not. I only talk abut products that I want to talk about, and I only say what I would tell a friend who's considering purchasing this product.