How to Break an Infantry Square

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    Cavalry has been among the most dangerous and effective weapons of any army for most of history. Even through the Long Eighteenth Century and the mass adoption of firearms, cavalry could use their speed and weight to rapidly outmaneuver enemy formations. By getting around their enemies’ flanks and driving themselves through gaps, cavalry could split forces apart before cutting them down as they fled.
    But horse borne warriors weren’t invincible! And one of the best ways to counter them, was the Infantry's Square Formation. Throughout the period in question it would take different forms, and go by different names, for example the Oblong, but the basic principles and object were always the same. The Square...was a cavalry killer.
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    01:10 What Was the Square?
    06:30 Sponsorship
    07:44 How Was the Square Formed?
    12:27 How Did Solders Fight in Square?
    18:16 How to Break a Square

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  • @BrandonF
    @BrandonF  Рік тому +139

    I kind of slipped this in at the end, but consider it a 'soft announcement' that I am also now on Utreon! UA-cam has been finicky lately as regards notifications and video promotion, to say the least, so if you want a more reliable way to find my content that may be a good answer for you. You can find my channel here: utreon.com/c/BrandonF
    I will post all the same videos there as here, of course. Following me on Facebook and Instagram are also good ways of making sure you know when new videos come out (look to the description for those links)

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Рік тому +2

      @in desperate need of a scotch I upload the videos as private a few days early for my Patreon supporters, is why.

    • @SRP3572
      @SRP3572 Рік тому

      @@BrandonF Nice purple tie by the way. The Mrs is digging it. She loves purple 👍

    • @carrott36
      @carrott36 Рік тому

      @@BrandonF I believe that in the book ‘Waterloo: The French Perspective’ (A marvellous work, check it out if you haven’t already) they detail that at least one British ‘square’ was actually in a triangular position, although it may not have been in that book that I read it, it might’ve been a different one.

    • @derekpaulsen4276
      @derekpaulsen4276 Рік тому

      Brandon you should do a video talking about what a British flag bearers purpose was during the American war of independence. Or a video on the pioneers

    • @rc59191
      @rc59191 Рік тому

      You should do a video about Washington's Grenadiers there's nothing about them on UA-cam be really cool to see them talked about.

  • @kevinlove4356
    @kevinlove4356 Рік тому +474

    Brandon failed to mention the #1 enemy of infantry squares: Horse artillery. Here is how it works. The cavalry gallop menacingly around waving their sabres and whatnot just out of musket range of the square. Meanwhile, the horse artillery canter up, unlimber just outside of musket range and start firing canister. Goodby square. The square will inevitably break under the canister fire and then the cavalry charge in to finish it off.

    • @josteinhenrique2779
      @josteinhenrique2779 Рік тому +14

      Wait, if the cavalry is positioned out of the infantry square shots' range, shouldn't the cavalry also be unable to hit effective shots as well? Honest doubt.

    • @kevinlove4356
      @kevinlove4356 Рік тому +73

      @@josteinhenrique2779 The whole point is that the threat of cavalry attack forces the infantry to form square in the first place.

    • @HaNsWiDjAjA
      @HaNsWiDjAjA Рік тому +64

      @@josteinhenrique2779 Artillery rounds had a much longer range compared to infantry muskets.

    • @josteinhenrique2779
      @josteinhenrique2779 Рік тому +32

      @@HaNsWiDjAjA oh, right, artillery. For some reason, when I readed the words "cavalry" and "artillery" together, I thought you were talking about the dragoons.

    • @terryl7749
      @terryl7749 Рік тому +3

      The most affective way to disrupt an infantry formation without shields is with fire launched from a catapult. Hurling incendiary bombs from an elevated height accompanied with a shower of arrows would have been more affective at Waterloo than just an unsupported cavalry charge. This can be launched from a safe distance whilst the cavalry wait just out of reach of enemy musket fire.
      I think sometimes ancient warfare can be advantageous when dealing with an unarmored position. Perhaps the Romans would have been a better adversary against the English than the Napoleonic French. Marshal Ney was an amateur at best. Not bravest of the brave but dumbest of the dead.

  • @tomskonieczka2385
    @tomskonieczka2385 Рік тому +52

    this guy answers the ultimate question "how to make yourself look and sound like you are 65 when you are 25"

  • @shinjiikari1021
    @shinjiikari1021 Рік тому +733

    someone needs to make a infantry hexagon, cuz hexagons are the best-agons

  • @charleslathrop9743
    @charleslathrop9743 Рік тому +191

    The odds of my encountering an infantry square on a battlefield are minute, but I'll keep this in mind.

    • @ChristheRedcoat
      @ChristheRedcoat Рік тому +37

      They may be minute, but never zero…

    • @scottanos9981
      @scottanos9981 Рік тому

      Hope you brought your 12 pounder with you

    • @ADrunkBassist
      @ADrunkBassist Рік тому +12

      You haven't been using enough cavalry divisions.

    • @Oi....
      @Oi.... Рік тому +7

      Better to have the knowledge & not need it, rather than need it and not have it...

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Рік тому +1

      Honestly never seen russians marching so well... they're mostly in a line, drunk staggering bunches, or flying away from a tank, very jigsawy.

  • @GorillaWithACellphone
    @GorillaWithACellphone Рік тому +31

    Babe wake up brandon F. Uploaded.

  • @ericamborsky3230
    @ericamborsky3230 Рік тому +22

    3:02 My time as a Boy Scout has shown me that a proper circle is indeed, extremely difficult to form in a timely manner.

  • @Fusilier7
    @Fusilier7 Рік тому +101

    Another interesting film I would recommend, is the Spanish film "Alatriste", released in 2008, it follows the story of a Spanish Tercio in the Netherlands, and it was at the end of the film does the Tercio fight the Battle of Rocroi. Although this was set in the seventeenth century, it's still interesting to see what a infantry square might have looked like, during the film, the Spanish square gets pommelled by artillery, there you could see cannonballs shooting through ranks, causing casualties, and even breaking some pikes. French cavalry charges the square, but were reinforced by French infantry equipped with pikes, for me this is an interesting depiction of combined arms, first, the artillery would pound the enemy with shot and shell, next the cavalry would try to break the formation with shock, finally, the infantry would follow up trying to rout the enemy. The infantry square evolved from the old pike and shot squares, so there were already measures and counter-measures for tacticians to implement by the time of the Napoleonic wars, yet I recommend watching "Alatriste", it's quite a good historical film.

    • @davidstockhoff8801
      @davidstockhoff8801 Рік тому +12

      with Viggo Mortensen!

    • @praevasc4299
      @praevasc4299 Рік тому +12

      I know of a rare case where a tercio was beaten by a frontal charge (!) of a small band of light cavalry (!!), because it happened not far from where I live, in what was back then the Principality of Transylvania, in a civil war. (I couldn't find any English sources for the battle itself)
      One of the claimants to the throne just started to lay siege to a town where the other claimant was residing. The attackers had the numerical advantage, which was further strengthened by most of the defender's infantry deserting before the encirclement of the town could have been completed. The defenders only had the citizen militia of the town, and some light cavalry.
      So, imagine what the attackers thought when, while preparing for the siege, the cavalry of the enemy leaves the safety of the city walls and starts heading towards them. They didn't consider them a serious threat, and never even dreamed of the defenders wanting a field battle, they thought they were skirmishing to slow down the encirclement of the city. So their musketeers went quite far forward from their pikemen, to exchange shots with the enemy skirmishers. The first volley, from a big distance, obviously didn't do much damage. To their surprise, the light cavalry didn't bother with firing back, and rushed the musketeers while they were reloading. They panicked as they in their overconfidence got lured away from their pikemen, so they started running back towards them, and the cavalry crashed into them at the moment before they could form up properly, so the pikemen couldn't deploy their pikes because of their own routing musketeers were just crashing into their lines. This caused a chaotic melee, which was made even worse by their own cavalry trying to rush to their aid but trampling down their own infantry in a hurry, which added to the chaos, and soon the whole army routed from a significantly lesser force which would have been less than a nuisance if prepared for properly. What also likely contributed, is that the besiegers had mercenaries as their infantry with their own general, and the claimant had his cavalry formed by his own vassals and local petty nobility which he led personally, so the communication between infantry and cavalry weren't really great, as the army had two generals working mostly independently form each other.

    • @FelixstoweFoamForge
      @FelixstoweFoamForge Рік тому +3

      And one of my favourites. Plus the Alatriste books, if you can find them, are great

    • @HaNsWiDjAjA
      @HaNsWiDjAjA Рік тому +2

      @@praevasc4299 This was also what happened at the battle of Turnhout, where the Dutch cuirassiers first routed the lighter Spanish cavalry, and then charged and routed the tercios as well.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 Рік тому +1

      Love the film as I prefer late medieval and early modern war to 18th and later. I've studied the Gold Century Spanish military for a long time.

  • @russelmurphy4868
    @russelmurphy4868 Рік тому +33

    I can add another incident where British cavalry (16th Lancers) broke an infantry square. Battle of Aliwal, First Anglo-Sikh War, 28 January 1846. They actually charged a Sikh infantry square and, taking heavy casualties, basically tent-pegged their way through.
    And then there's the 3rd Bombay Light Cavalry at The Battle of Khushab in 1857, breaking a Persian square. IIRC, the first horse into the square's flank basically fell dead on top of the Persian infantry. The next horse in was actually being ridden into the square by John Grant Malcolmson, who was attempting to extricate the regimental adjutant, Lieutenant Arthur Thomas Moore, the rider of the first horse who was trying to cut his way out on foot with a broken sword. He succeeded in getting Moore out, but also managed to leave a gap big enough for the rest of the regiment to break through.
    The following is an extract from Malcolmson's citation for the Victoria Cross (Moore also got one):
    "On 8 February 1857 at the Battle of Khushab, Persia, the adjutant of the regiment, Lieutenant Moore was probably the first in the attack, but his horse, on leaping into the square, fell dead, crushing his rider and breaking his sword. The adjutant extricated himself and tried with his broken sword to force his way through the enemy, but he would almost certainly have lost his life had not Lieutenant Malcolmson seen his plight, fought his way to his dismounted comrade and, giving him his stirrup, carried him to safety."
    As to forming square: there's a little Victorian-era variation on the theme. It's called "Form Rallying Square," and was simple in intent, but its execution depended very much on the NCOs and privates knowing their stuff. Quite simply, if an officer spotted cavalry that was too close to form a "proper" square, but far enough away for some kind of defensive formation to be made, he simply called out "Enemy Cavalry Approaching", pointing his sword in the direction the enemy horse was coming from. The regimental CO then called out "Form Rallying Square!" and the infantry basically formed circular lumps, with the front ranks kneeling as usual, around their officers. (In the Moreton Regiment, my old Victorian-era Queensland colonial volunteer militia reenactment unit, we joked that this also tended to show who the liked and popular officers were!) We did this against mounted Australian Light Horse at our old Colonial and WW1-era encampments at Fort Lytton, and in talking to the light horse guys afterwards, they said it was remarkably effective, as their horses did NOT want to be anywhere near our bayonets!

    • @matthewcharles5867
      @matthewcharles5867 Рік тому +1

      There's also an account of French lancers breaking a Russian square the weather played a major part in that it had been constantly raining which meant the Russians muskets would not fire . The French lancers attacked at walking pace and stabbed away with their lancers until they destroyed the entire square. Queensland militia has the red piping on there uniforms?
      I'm doing a nsw mounted rifles impression.

    • @russelmurphy4868
      @russelmurphy4868 Рік тому

      @@matthewcharles5867 No, that would have been Queensland Mounted Infantry, or the Queensland Teachers' Volunteer Corps. And the piping was maroon, not red.

  • @WhatIfBrigade
    @WhatIfBrigade Рік тому +13

    An infantry circle would be annoying because it wouldn't be clear which targets were whose responsibility and the volley fire of muskets wouldn't be concentrated. A square also has an advantage in that if victorious, a side facing the enemy can advance as a unit or charge.

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Рік тому +7

      And then you also have the two sides to the left and right of the advancing party do a simple wheel, and you’re in a full line except for the rearmost division.

  • @FranciscoOyola94
    @FranciscoOyola94 Рік тому +11

    I have an interesting story about cavalry and square formations. In May 26, 1880, during the War of the Pacific (also called Saltpeter War) the Chilean army (14000 men divided in 4 division plus one reserve, 37 cannons and 4 machineguns) faced the combined forces of Peru and Bolivia (11000 men divided in 9 divisions with no dedicated reserve, 16 cannons and 7 machineguns) in the Battle of the Peak of the alliance, in mount Intiorko near the city of Tacna. The Chilean artillery opened fire at 9 am and the infantry attacked at 10 am, fighting a literal uphill battle. The first division, fighting in the left flank, ran out of ammo around midday (Chilean cartridge boxes could carry 100 rounds but the soldiers were issued only 80 rounds each) and received the full counter attack of 2 Bolivian division and was forced to pull back. Fearing its destruction and the collapse of the left flank, the first division asked for a cavalry charge to gain time to regroup and resupply. The high command sent the cavalry regiment “Carabineers of Yungay” (380 men) to fetch ammo crates and take them to the infantry (at this point the entire line was running out of ammo) and at the same time the regiment “Horse Grenadiers” (400 men) was order to charge the Bolivian positions. This maneuver forced the Bolivian forces to form square to protect themselves from the charge, but also they had to disengage from the combat they were already in, allowing the Chilean first division to retreat, regroup, resupply and, with the help of the third division, counter attack the Bolivian forces.
    The battle ended, at 2.30 pm, as a Chilean victory, with 520 KIA and 1500 wounded (some historians think that at least a third of the wounded ended up dying in the next couple of days). The allied forces lost 2100 KIA and 2500 wounded and captured. The “Horse Grenadiers” lost 35 men KIA and 11 wounded. After the battle it was decided that each soldier should be able to carry 200 rounds and never enter combat with fewer than 150 rounds.

  • @gaslightstudiosrebooted3432
    @gaslightstudiosrebooted3432 Рік тому +86

    IMO really you have two options to break a square. One was to use a combined arms approach. The second was what happened at Garcia during the peninsular war and hope the infantry fires too late. If that happens, you stand a reasonably good chance of having a horse actually pierce the square, which the rest of the cavalry squadron can follow up on.

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Рік тому +26

      Spoilers, now!

    • @gaslightstudiosrebooted3432
      @gaslightstudiosrebooted3432 Рік тому +10

      @@BrandonF Sorry, thought you wouldn't mention the first one lol

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Рік тому +27

      If I remember right, you're the one who pointed Garcia Hernandez out to me way back when, so thank you for a good topic to look into!

    • @gaslightstudiosrebooted3432
      @gaslightstudiosrebooted3432 Рік тому +5

      @@BrandonF No problem. Always glad to help a ytber find an interesting topic for a vid

    • @SRP3572
      @SRP3572 Рік тому +2

      Hoping for a well disciplined army to fire late is a huge gamble. I'd try the first option first

  • @jobe5514
    @jobe5514 Рік тому +15

    May I just say sir, you are looking formidably sharp in that three-piece. As always a great video does help too.

  • @Strato50
    @Strato50 Рік тому +12

    I witnessed a French cavalry squad catch up with some Brits before they were able to form square at Waterloo 2015. It was amazing, and absolutely terrifying, to watch.
    Then they began tapping the Brits on the bum with their swords.

  • @jansmitsvanoyen4832
    @jansmitsvanoyen4832 Рік тому +1

    I think I have an example of a square forming into a triangle for you! Mark Adkins’ ‘The Waterloo Companion’ shows the 2nd battalion, 3rd regiment of the French Guard Grenadiers form a square after the Guards’ attack was repulsed, under fire from the Allied artillery and infantry; the square retreated to Belle Alliance, but lost so many soldiers along the way that it had melted into a two-rank triangle by the end; they then broke into smaller units and escaped.
    So yeah, hardly the commander’s first choice, probably…

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706
    @wayneantoniazzi2706 Рік тому +11

    As odd as the concept is to us moderns watching this we can see why soldiers were taught in the 18th and early 19th Centuries that their best chance for survival on a European battlefield was to stick together and NOT spread apart. Stick together to mass your firepower and be able to quickly form that living fort that a square was. Of course, all that would change as the 19th Century wore on and weapons technology advanced.
    By the way, if I remember right during the Gettysburg Campaign the Confederate infantry formed square several times when threatened by Union cavalry, however the cavalry didn't attack. Which would tell you a square could also have a deterrent effect without a shot being fired.
    VERY informative video Brandon! Thanks!

    • @Tareltonlives
      @Tareltonlives Рік тому +1

      I was unaware of the use of the square in the American civil war. Interesting! I wonder if it was also used in against the equestrian native peoples.

    • @wayneantoniazzi2706
      @wayneantoniazzi2706 Рік тому +6

      @@Tareltonlives As far as I know the Gettysburg Campaign was the only time it was used. "Civil War Times" magazine had an article about it 25 or so years ago.
      I'm not aware of it being used during the Indian Wars in the West. When Nelson Miles' infantry were attacked by the Sioux post-Little Big Horn forming in a line and volley firing was enough to break the charge of Sitting Bull's braves, forming a square wasn't needed however I'm guessing those infantrymen were trained in doing so.
      I'm not a big expert on the Indian Wars but from what I've read the Plains Indians were more leery of engaging infantry than they were cavalry. The infantry's rifles could far outrange the cavalry's carbines. Infantry rifles took bayonets too, carbines didn't.

    • @Tareltonlives
      @Tareltonlives Рік тому

      @@wayneantoniazzi2706 Good point. most of the tactics were about fighting from cover, using broken and rough terrain. I believe you're referring to Slim Buttes: the US troops used superior numbers and firepower, creating a long line of riflemen, with the cavalry dismounted and acting in reserve. Meanwhile, Miles had American Horse and his village massacred- Crazy Horse's rescue action was now useless and his strategy to pin the US troops against American Horse foiled.

    • @wayneantoniazzi2706
      @wayneantoniazzi2706 Рік тому

      @@Tareltonlives I'll admit I had to look that one up. Nelson Miles wasn't at Slim Buttes, he fought Sitting Bull at Cedar Creek on October 21st repulsing the attack, then pursued Sitting Bull 42 miles until the Sioux surrendered. It was a Captain Mills at Slim Buttes.
      It's been 40+ years since I read about Miles, so I didn't remember all the details.

    • @TchaikovskyFDR
      @TchaikovskyFDR Рік тому

      This is why Dundas.

  • @stanleyrusso137
    @stanleyrusso137 Рік тому +20

    You watched this video to understand Napolianic warfare. I watched this video to get better at Fire and Manuver.
    We are not the same.

    • @drunken_cat1
      @drunken_cat1 Рік тому +4

      How would this help in F&M??

    • @SRP3572
      @SRP3572 Рік тому +2

      @@drunken_cat1 put this in r/iamverysmart, r/notliketheotherguys and r/wearenotthesame

  • @rhysnichols8608
    @rhysnichols8608 Рік тому +10

    At Waterloo Neys ‘PTSD induced reckless charge’ was actually done to prevent the British centre from re-forming, by launching a cavalry charge the British were forced into squares, the plan then was the have infantry and horse artillery ascend the ridge and decimate the vulnerable squares at close range, while the cavalry kept them pinned in place.
    HOWEVER french reserves had to be hurriedly redirected to the right flank to face the Prussians at Plancenmois….meaning NO infantry was available to support the cavalry. Ney had to keep launching attacks to keep the British pinned buying time for french infantry, it never came and the opportunity was lost.
    This puts the anglocentric version of events in doubt, as it seems quite obvious Wellington was beaten if it weren’t for the Prussian support. Imagine if the young guard assaulted the squares and weren’t street fighting the Prussians…..Waterloo was an allied victory not British.

    • @wayneantoniazzi2706
      @wayneantoniazzi2706 Рік тому +3

      Well, the Iron Duke himself said "Come night, or come Blucher!"

    • @spiffygonzales5160
      @spiffygonzales5160 Рік тому +1

      I feel like the British tend to exaggerate themselves when talking about their history. More so than other nations. Granted, they WERE the biggest Empire in all of Human History. That being said, the number of times I've heard brits say Churchill was a more important person historically than Alexander or Charlemagne is insane. And when there's conflicting evidence to something they'll usually take their own side. Or make absolute demons out of people they went to war with.
      Again, all nations do it... but I feel like the British do it a bit more than everyone else.

    • @Rusty_Gold85
      @Rusty_Gold85 Рік тому

      Good to see the correct view instead of the centuries old fables

    • @rhysnichols8608
      @rhysnichols8608 Рік тому +3

      @@spiffygonzales5160
      Yeah I’m British and I agree with what you said

    • @TchaikovskyFDR
      @TchaikovskyFDR Рік тому

      Imagine if Ney just full sent the guard then. Wellington would've been shattered but should would Napoleon's reserves... would have been a titan of a battle comparatively -- though probably the same fate none the less...

  • @nohrii023
    @nohrii023 Рік тому +2

    Archduke Charles: "Hollow Square? Too complicated. Let's make a mass!"

  • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
    @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin Рік тому +4

    *strolls down the street, spies a hottie*
    "Hey, girl, I know how to break an infantry square."
    "You mean you can ride a horse and wield a sword?"
    "Well... in THEORY."

  • @davidgellatly1975
    @davidgellatly1975 Рік тому +1

    In the clip you can see the enemy racing around accomplishing nothing. During the battle, the British treated the cavalry charges as a welcomed respite from the much more deadly artillery barrages. As Bernard Cornwell accurately described, an 18th battle was much like a game of rock, scissors, paper. Infantry in square trumps cavalry, artillery trumps infantry in a square; and cavalry trumps infantry in line or broken infantry.

  • @fierylightning3422
    @fierylightning3422 Рік тому +4

    I love how I am keenly listening and nodding my head taking mental notes as if I would ever use an infantry square in the modern age
    (or even get the chance to command in a military situation at all)

  • @red-whitestarline
    @red-whitestarline Рік тому +7

    I just noticed the photo in the background, God save the King!

  • @GabeUSA07
    @GabeUSA07 Рік тому +29

    These videos are so informative and really helped me get into reenacting

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Рік тому +8

      That's awesome to hear!

  • @merlin4084
    @merlin4084 Рік тому +60

    Great video. Love the new thumbnail and the part transition image. The videos have really jumped up in quality since you got an editor or two.
    As for squares in general, I just wish NTW squares weren't the god tier defence against cavalry it currently is. Or even in some table top games as well.

    • @twilightgamedesigns4887
      @twilightgamedesigns4887 Рік тому

      Well its that way because it basically was, historically cavalry breaking a square was the extreme exception, not the rule. As was mentioned line infantry or arty was the answer to the square. IF the square had not been so effective vs cav, it would not have been used so much:)

  • @stevenlowe3026
    @stevenlowe3026 Рік тому +7

    The hollow square is described in the 12th century *Alexiad* of Byzantine Princess Anna Komnena - supposedly invented by her father Emperor Alexios, and used against Turkish cavalry. BTW, one of the issues in forming a circle would be the morale factor of having someone on each side of you protecting your flank. It's a natural tendency of any soldier to try to edge himself into a more protective position, which happened in the days of shields - each battle line would edge sideways as each soldier moved toward his unprotected side, trying to keep his shield more effectively between him and the enemy. I'm sure it would be even worse in a circular formation - everyone would feel horribly exposed (on both sides!) and you'd probably find the circle continually reducing in size as each man tried to edge backwards so he had people on each side. Just my thoughts . . .

  • @Philtopy
    @Philtopy Рік тому +4

    19:30 I remember a really great scene of the "Uthred" books, a historical novel series about the viking invasion of England. There the Anglo Saxons army menage to break the Danish Vikings shieldwall when the main character named Uthred, fighting for the Anglo Saxons, came out of the line to challenge a rider who charged at him with his horse. Uthred then threw a spear at the horse wich got impaled and in shock, pain and panic crashed into the Danes line, slamming 5 or 6 men to the ground, kicking and thrashing at the others. The Anglo Saxons immedietly realise the chance, charge into the gap in a spearhead formation and devide the Danish force into two. The Danes loose their cohesion and coordination and eventually rout from the field. I found this fitting to your passage here about the gap in the french square formation.
    Sadly in the show adaptation of the books called "Last Kingdom" the Danish line gets smashed by one angry Uthred alone, necause the directors didnt wanna show the main character killing a poor horse. So Uthred just charges at the shields and smashes through, even though before that the Danes literally held firm against the entire Anglo Saxon charge. Totally ridiculous. xD
    But the show is decent. Can be watched. But the books are way better!

  • @adamantlyadam5201
    @adamantlyadam5201 Рік тому +1

    This was so random, but while browsing the library at my university I came across an old US Army tactical manual from the start of the Civil War. Flipping through it I found a section that showed a method for attacking an infantry square I found curious. The cavalry would approach in 3 sections, I’ll call them troops but honestly I think it was smaller than that. But just as an example. Two troops formed a line abreast and the third troop was behind them. The formation approached one of the square’s corners as directly as possible at a gallop. Then the two troops in the front would split, charging down either slope from the point in opposite directions and the third troops would charge at top speed straight at the corner.
    I found it very curious. I’ve never read of any actual account where such a maneuver was actually used. I think the intent was for the two first troops to draw fire and attention after them, and the few men on the corner, (psychologically an unsafe place to be because you aren’t necessarily shoulder to shoulder and this feel exposed) would suddenly be surprised the third troops barreling down on them.

  • @TR0X3N
    @TR0X3N Рік тому +7

    I see our thumbnail advice was taken.
    I think it has a good style and will help to get your channel more recognition.

  • @generalaigullletes5830
    @generalaigullletes5830 Рік тому +8

    IT'S TIME TO BREAK SOME SQUARES
    *takes out napoleonic carbine, pistol*

  • @thedreysepodcasttv4852
    @thedreysepodcasttv4852 Рік тому +6

    Bruh I wished Marshel Nay watched this before losing all his cav.

    • @forkthepork
      @forkthepork Рік тому

      The good guys won that battle...

    • @trollege9618
      @trollege9618 Рік тому

      @@forkthepork good guys? There are no good guys in war.

    • @forkthepork
      @forkthepork Рік тому

      @@trollege9618 The ones I rooted for. Those are the good guys.

    • @user-nk7xu8uy7c
      @user-nk7xu8uy7c 2 місяці тому

      He squandered them..again and again..he was shot by firing squad after the battle

  • @justalittlewilde2006
    @justalittlewilde2006 Рік тому +11

    I have to say the production quality and the editing is on point. A solid, grade A video! Fantastic job!

  • @anauthor3330
    @anauthor3330 Рік тому +5

    Your videos deserve far more views and recognition than they get. You put so much effort, research and good presentation into these videos, they are the very definition of 'undervalued'. Just know that I will be STAYING subscribed to your channel no matter what, and I can only hope that you gain steady and rising viewership and subscribers, and even just seeing that you have 1 thousand likes on a video with only 8K views tells me that you have a largely active and dedicated following already!
    Cheers, to your continued prosperity, Brandon!

  • @silentotto5099
    @silentotto5099 Рік тому +5

    This talk was very useful. I've long known of infantry squares as a tactic to thwart cavalry, but this if the first time I've ever seen anyone delve into how they were actually used in any depth.
    Well done.

  • @andieslandies
    @andieslandies Рік тому +9

    Your description of the first volley's importance caused me to reconsider a couple of things you mentioned in Part The First.
    First, the corner of the square is only a weak point after the first volley and may be stronger at the first volley if it is directly facing the front of the cavalry charge (even if only half the men on two sides of the square can incline enough to fire on the enemy, they will deliver the same weight of fire as a whole side across a shorter frontage).
    Second, the circle would rapidly dissipate weight of fire; if every man in a circular formation fires to his front, the weight of fire halves every time the range doubles.

  • @captainjohann7708
    @captainjohann7708 Рік тому +5

    Terrific video Brandon! Very informative, fun, and unobfuscatious. :) Keep up the terrific work!

  • @wampuscat1831
    @wampuscat1831 Рік тому +3

    In the army we had a marching drill called To the 4 winds. Our 4 squàds would each move for a side. It looked cool to watch and done quickly.

  • @janprochazka6330
    @janprochazka6330 Рік тому +2

    ”Being bombarded by cavalry ” i imagine trebuche-ing hussars onto their enemies...now that would be a sight to be seen .

  • @archdornan1722
    @archdornan1722 Рік тому +8

    What we learned from this episode: Brandon is unable to tell the differences between shapes.

  • @windalfalatar333
    @windalfalatar333 Рік тому

    Excellent quality as always!!

  • @2ethefirst318
    @2ethefirst318 Рік тому +2

    was really struggling with this, thanks for this tutorial, defo gonna test this out next week 👍

  • @Slatch36
    @Slatch36 Рік тому +2

    Great video, Thanks!

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Рік тому +3

      Very much appreciated, thank you! Generosity like yours is a big part of what makes my work possible!

  • @podemosurss8316
    @podemosurss8316 Рік тому +4

    18:35 Your Spanish pronunciation is quite good!
    I also have to point out that the French unit at Garcihernández was a rearguard left to protect the retreat of (what was left of) the French army after they had lost the far bigger battle of Los Arapiles against the Allied army (7 British and 1 Spanish divisions + 4 British, 3 Portuguese and 1 Spanish brigades) under Wellington.

  • @crazypickles8235
    @crazypickles8235 Рік тому +1

    This was insanely informative and fun to watch! Thank you for yet another brilliant and well made educational video!

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

    When the Austrian Empire again joined the war against France for the who knows which time they needed to rase an army fast so didnt have time to train the men how to properly wheel in to a hollow square so to protect against cavalry they just compacted the lines one after the other in to a massive full square, this limited firepower and exposed to cannons but required no training.

  • @sirstahlhelm6977
    @sirstahlhelm6977 Рік тому +3

    What is this? A rapid upload schedule?!

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Рік тому +1

      It's about to get a whole lot more rapid!

  • @jamesgrcevich6277
    @jamesgrcevich6277 Рік тому +4

    Thank for links to first sources
    I am a retired soldier and am also working on my masters degree in military history. I am always looking for first sources. In the US it is almost impossible.

  • @michaelwestmoreland2530
    @michaelwestmoreland2530 Рік тому +1

    I know you have the whole English thing, and most English are pretty solid on being straight forward and matter of fact, but honestly. You have a serious sense of humor. That one little "...merede." nearly had me spit take my Dr. Pepper.

  • @Czakaronek
    @Czakaronek Рік тому +12

    Great video Brandon thank you. I may be able to recommend an interesting version of a infantry triangle shown in a polish movie "Pan Tadeusz". The movie is set in 1811-1812 and features a small skirmish between regular russian soldiers, using a hollow triangular formation on a smaller scale, and an irregular polish rebellion. The movie is easily accessible on youtube, even if just for the battle scene. :)

  • @thijsrikkerink6333
    @thijsrikkerink6333 Рік тому +4

    Very interesting. Thanks for the intel, was using a square formation in a new game I saw, Fire and Maneuver, have you perhaps played it too?

  • @billkallas1762
    @billkallas1762 Рік тому +5

    Concentrated round shot on one square will blow holes three or four feet wide all the way through the ranks of a side, and even cause some casualties on the other side of the square.

    • @AdmiralBob
      @AdmiralBob Рік тому +4

      Arty for the win.

    • @Rusty_Gold85
      @Rusty_Gold85 Рік тому

      And thats a canon round ball sent flying 100's of metres through the flesh and ranks and not exploding type that the velocity just keeps going . Howitzers could have exploding balls if closer by lobbing into the ranks or a Farm.

  • @BrokenIET
    @BrokenIET Рік тому +3

    I prefer your other style of ads, they actually made me watch some of your videos just because of them, and got me interested in the topic of the video just because I wanted to see the ad and ended up watching the whole video

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Рік тому +1

      Good chance I will return to them- I wanted to do an experiment with this one where I got the ad done very quickly, to see if that might improve retention. After I compare some figures I will decide which path is better.

  • @UnclePengy
    @UnclePengy Рік тому +2

    I have little knowledge of how battles were fought in Napoleonic times, so I had never even heard of an "infantry square" until watching Sharpe's Waterloo, where the Prince of Orange kept trying to battle cavalry charges with a line and Sharpe kept telling him to form squares. So when I saw this title I thought I'd watch and learn more about the concept.

  • @widsof7862
    @widsof7862 Рік тому +1

    watching the Trooping of the Colour, which happens each year in London, can give some idea as to how troops of that era maneovered.

  • @blacktar467899
    @blacktar467899 Рік тому +2

    At the battle of San Gabriel (1847), Kearney formed his entire force into a single square, with his artillery and baggage in the center. His force was a combination of dismounted Dragoons, militiamen, marines, and sailors, some armed with only pikes. It was a ragtag force, and an unorthodox formation, but he prevailed.

  • @josteinhenrique2779
    @josteinhenrique2779 Рік тому +3

    2:58
    Not only is more difficult, but also, a circle doesn't allow the formation to keep a straight line of shooting, which would lower the accuracy of the shots.

  • @fremage4426
    @fremage4426 Рік тому

    found your channel 2 days ago. now I can't stop watching your videos about warfare. very entertaining and well explained. thank you very much for that amazing content

  • @FuzzyMarineVet
    @FuzzyMarineVet Рік тому +2

    The British 8th Army in WWII used a variation of the Infantry Square in North Africa called "Infantry Boxes." Using AT guns inside the box and along the sides made them formidable fortifications against German Panzers.

  • @AcAbook
    @AcAbook Рік тому +6

    I would just use artillery.

    • @retardcorpsman
      @retardcorpsman Рік тому

      Using artillery against squares is much harder than it sounds. They could be destroyed by enemy artillery, swamped by light infantry or captured by enemy horsemen. For example, the French artillery situated in La Haye Sainte were able to fire at the British infantry squares during Ney’s cavalry charge and had the potential to maul several of the British squares up front. However, they were soon rendered combat inoperable by members of the 95th and KGL rifles situated just near the sand bar on front of the house. The French crews simply couldn’t reload the guns properly whilst they were being shot at by these 2 rifle units.

  • @matej_bosnjak
    @matej_bosnjak Рік тому +4

    4:36 Merde is the greatest possible way to explain those kinds of situations, I can confirm and so can the Old Guard!

    • @footchess387
      @footchess387 3 місяці тому

      Au pas camarades au pas camarades au pas au pas au pas

  • @Marguerite-tv4tq
    @Marguerite-tv4tq 7 місяців тому

    Very interesting, thanks a lot!!!

  • @thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308

    Who would win?
    Well trained, valiant mounted warriors on lighting fast steeds, armed and armored with some of the best equipment available.
    Or
    A quadrilateral shape.

    • @The_Honourable_Company
      @The_Honourable_Company Рік тому +2

      And even better, it has long pointy sticks that shoot!

    • @thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308
      @thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308 Рік тому +2

      Holy shit man, that’s like 200% extra f u against cav.

    • @trollege9618
      @trollege9618 Рік тому +1

      Fun fact: You also require well trained and disciplined troops on the polygons because untrained troops can easily break when seeing hundreds of horses charging at them.

    • @The_Honourable_Company
      @The_Honourable_Company Рік тому +1

      @@trollege9618 meh, sounds easy enough compared to other things.

  • @raigarmullerson4838
    @raigarmullerson4838 Рік тому

    Love the vids and cheers from Estonia.

  • @jeffyoung60
    @jeffyoung60 Рік тому

    In the 1990s, MILITARY HISTORY magazine - still in publication - advertised a series of beautiful, detailed, color paintings of historical war battles. Prints of the paintings were available for sale. One interesting print was a bird's eye view of attacking waves of Zulu tribal warriors against a British infantry square, circa 1879, which must have been the Battle of Isandlwana. The print shows the Zulu warriors breaking through the corner of the British square and starting to enter it. This signaled the end of the British force. Evidently, the weakest part of an infantry battle square was its corners. The same applied to traditional forts and castles and other battlements. To combat this weakness, sometimes large stone forts and castle walls had reinforcing small towers flanking the corner, providing deadly cross fire. But this was not possible on an infantry square.

  • @russbarker2727
    @russbarker2727 Рік тому +1

    Thank you Sir. I have always wondered at the why? when? and wherefore? of forming square.
    A most interesting video.

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Рік тому

      Well I'm glad I could help you out to find some answers!

  • @murrayeldred3563
    @murrayeldred3563 Рік тому

    Excellent. Informative video.

  • @kevinstreet5709
    @kevinstreet5709 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for the insight

  • @dentoncrimescene
    @dentoncrimescene Рік тому

    Interesting as usual. Thanks.

  • @ThePerfectRed
    @ThePerfectRed Рік тому +4

    Woulndn't mounted grenadiers have been a good idea? Having some horsemen throw grenades into the infantry line would pretty much do the job of a wounded horse kicking around, it seems.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Рік тому

      If they had modern grenades, it would be a great idea. But I think the grenades they had at the time were hard enough to use on foot, let alone light, throw, and avoid blowing yourself up with on horseback.

    • @ThePerfectRed
      @ThePerfectRed Рік тому

      @@shorewall I just mean a few that can be shielded by the others until the last moment. It would be a dangerous job, but charging into a bayonet line is too. I'd even try packing a horse with fused black powder and jumping off 100 meters from the enemy. You can break your neck doing that, but still better than the bloody horror of a smash charge.

    • @dochteur1886
      @dochteur1886 Рік тому

      Grenadiers a cheval were literally one of the Napoleons guard cavalry units - perhaps even the most prestigious of the branch, with the tradition going back to 17th century. But, just like with foot grenadiers, they dropped the role their name would imply (its hard to say, if theres even a single clear example of them even being used in the manner of riding to the target, dispatching it by throwing grenades and riding away, or finishing them afterwards.) and assumed a role of opportunistic shock troops, better trained for the task than average. And their combat record seems to be quite good, especially if one has cuirassiers and carabineers in mind for comparison. (Id say, at least Austerlitz and Eylau could serve as a basis to read on their performance.)

  • @devinholm6496
    @devinholm6496 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video. Was looking for a good video about square formations and all I could find was clips of "waterloo".

  • @frankniti4647
    @frankniti4647 Рік тому +47

    I have a question about the depiction of squares in "waterloo". All the squares are very close to each other and the cavalary is running around them and is exposed to the fire from all the squares. The question is how are the men from diffrent squares not shooting each other while aiming at the horses while they run circles around them?

    • @Maritimesgestein
      @Maritimesgestein Рік тому +8

      The cavalry prevent friendly fire because they are in between the infantry and act as targets.

    • @sharky9075
      @sharky9075 Рік тому +17

      @@Maritimesgestein That only makes sense if we assume that literally every shot fired at the cavalry actually hits

    • @unclerojelio6320
      @unclerojelio6320 Рік тому +2

      They aren’t.

    • @frankniti4647
      @frankniti4647 Рік тому +2

      @@sharky9075 which is hard with smoothbores.

    • @sharky9075
      @sharky9075 Рік тому +5

      @@frankniti4647 Thats my entire point, that its hard to hit accurately so not every shot will hit the cavalry, thus some strays will likely hit friendly forces

  • @davidstockhoff8801
    @davidstockhoff8801 Рік тому +1

    There are additional reasons why a circle would not be as optimal as it seems. (1) All shots fired would spray in an arc, with minimal effect on an attacking line, whether cavalry or infantry. Cavalry might charge in line or column, but didn't charge in an arc. (2) The angle between each soldier could be enough for a cavalryman to slip in and create an exploitable gap. (3) No one was trained for a circle, nor was it worth to train anyone for it---except in rough terrain, when it probably came naturally.

  • @LEFT4BASS
    @LEFT4BASS Рік тому +1

    Wat he said about waiting for the cavalry to get close before firing also applied historically to archers. Movies portray them as shooting mass volleys at the enemy as soon as they get remotely in range, but in reality, archers would generally save their fire until the enemy got closer. Arrows were valuable and in limited supply. Letting the enemy get close before you let loose wasn't just good for accuracy. The arrows fired at close range and a flat angle would hit the enemy much harder. In fact, medieval paintings overwhelmingly show archers firing at no angle, and from close range.
    But the same applies even centuries later in the Napoleonic wars. Not always wise to waste your ammo from a distance when you can save for a shock at close range.

  • @535phobos
    @535phobos Рік тому +1

    I have read in Cornwells book in Waterloo that on british regiment did form a triangle after losing quite a lot of men and thus not being able to form a square anymore.

  • @ericshin121
    @ericshin121 Рік тому

    You can still see the infantry square come to life to this day. The formation of trooping the colour resembles a hollow square at the beginning and when the less senior royals arrive, no.3 guard opens their rank and it looks like 2 half hollow squares

  • @Wolfeson28
    @Wolfeson28 Рік тому +13

    One of the biggest issues with squares breaking was: if the first square broke, the remaining infantry from that square are going to start streaming away, looking for any possible refuge from the onrushing cavalry horde...such as the next friendly square. That meant the next square would suddenly have a bunch of panicked friendly infantrymen trying to claw their way through its own ranks to reach the seeming safety of the middle, which is exactly the sort of thing that disorders a square's ranks and opens gaps which the cavalry can the exploit. Almost the only way for the second square to avoid that was to fire on their own fleeing troops from the first square to keep them away - something that an officer might understandably hesitate to order or the infantrymen might hesitate to do even if the order is given. That's on top of the fact that the men in the second (and other) squares would likely have been shaken already just from the sight of the first square breaking.

  • @lamelime1
    @lamelime1 3 місяці тому +1

    bro you are so good at talking, I didn't realise that I paid attention for almost 30 minutes

  • @fuferito
    @fuferito Рік тому +2

    Concentrated fire is much more effective from the straight lines of infantry that form the squares, whereas a circular formation would disperse the volleys the further they travel from their source.

  • @chinashorts1491
    @chinashorts1491 Рік тому

    Fantastic presentation. I think you have a long and bright future in this.

  • @garybobst9107
    @garybobst9107 Рік тому +1

    Kipling wrote a good poem about the Fuzzy-Wuzzy breaking the square.

  • @johnpatterson9829
    @johnpatterson9829 Рік тому +1

    Brandon, some insights gained from the hunt field on how horse charging works. In the main a trained horse jumps 12 feet from takeoff point to landing, say from about 4ft from the first soldier when moving at speed. If the depth of the square wall appears to be more than 8 feet the horse senses it cannot clear the obstacle and is unlikely to jump. If the horses approach is interrupted by an obstacle the rhythm of stride is lost and again there will be a refusal. Horses are very sensitive to the actions of other horses, if one or two refuse an obstacle then so will the rest. Similarly, if you can force one or two to attempt the jump then many others will commit as well. To beat a square, hope is too thin, hit it unhindered by obstacles and press close together so no-one can swerve away. Put your most committed horses and riders in the front line and press home. If the first charge fails, do not go in again!!!,

  • @PaoloCaringal-ep4bu
    @PaoloCaringal-ep4bu Рік тому

    Can't believe you showed the Eylau charge from Colonel Chabert. Always great to see.

  • @BrandonF
    @BrandonF  Рік тому +1

    If you'd like a great primary account from the Battle of Garcia Hernandez, this is a good next video to watch! ua-cam.com/video/ddfsn1OS5SI/v-deo.html

  • @vincemoran587
    @vincemoran587 11 місяців тому +1

    The square of the 33rd foot became a triangle at Waterloo due to casualties. That was why the Duke of wellingtons regiment used to wear a red cloth triangle behind the cap badge until 2007.

  • @frikvandenberg3976
    @frikvandenberg3976 10 місяців тому +1

    What is the difference between artillery and horse artillery?
    The Royal Horse Artillery was, distinguished from the Field Artillery by (among other things) its speed: the need to keep pace with a cavalry charge was achieved initially by the Horse Artillery using lighter guns than the RFA, and later by their using proportionally more horses.
    Ideal for breaking infantry squares!

  • @ronmcd9719
    @ronmcd9719 Рік тому +2

    Superb as usual. Maybe you've already done a review of that charge from Waterloo for realism but if not I'd love to see it.

  • @thetimeywimeycornerofhisto4954

    Thank you. I used this half an hour ago and... Well... Let's say the Popular kids are sleeping and not talking in their square.

  • @jamescuratalo2609
    @jamescuratalo2609 10 місяців тому

    Thanks. Very interesting

  • @KarpoKekkonen
    @KarpoKekkonen Рік тому

    Excellent and informative video

  • @GhilieDawg
    @GhilieDawg Рік тому +1

    If not artillery in games like total war I always use lancer Calvary to flank the sides of enemy troops and if that works 99% of the time it does the enemy ends up needing to cover its flanks allowing me to use the infantry to easily break them down by charging.

  • @jeffdittrich6778
    @jeffdittrich6778 Рік тому +1

    Horse cannon or gallopers work very well in creating holes in squares.

  • @MZeki-gw2xg
    @MZeki-gw2xg Рік тому +3

    I read somewhere that lancers were somewhat effective against squares especially if they charge obliquely

  • @thetimeywimeycornerofhisto4954

    Thank you for another great informative video. It's got me into re-enacting and when I can afford it (and when I'm legally old enough) I'm gonna join a napoleonic group near me.
    Also the suits are great!

  • @brianwinters5434
    @brianwinters5434 Рік тому +1

    Kipling wrote proving how uncommon defeating the square was " and eres to you fuzzy wuzzies for you bruk the British square."

  • @DietrichvonSachsen
    @DietrichvonSachsen Рік тому

    Great video, as always, but also looking flash in that suit!

  • @srivastavashivam949
    @srivastavashivam949 Рік тому

    Thanks for the tip bran! My bois were going in with their horses to break this square. Now we are waiting at a distance for the enemy to waste their volley. It's been some time but we're patient.

  • @Syndie702
    @Syndie702 Рік тому +1

    Also with a circle, if an attack comes from the direct west, you actually only have one soldier actually pointing direct west. Everyone else has to incline varying degrees to face the threat. whereas with a square then a whole face can be facing west.

  • @manuelkong10
    @manuelkong10 5 місяців тому +1

    If the wall of a square breaks, then very likely there are enemy troops in the spot where the wall of the square was and the adjoining two walls can't just back up into that space
    ....and if enemy troops get into the square, the other walls of the square can't just turn around and deal with them because there is most likely still a threat to those walls from outside the square

  • @johnminehan1148
    @johnminehan1148 Рік тому +1

    In one word: Fires!
    Field Artillery obviously. But also, the New Model Army's tactic of the Cavalry riding up and discharging pistols, or Parthian mounted archers launching volley's of arrows against Pompey's troops at Carrhae.

  • @odysseusrex5908
    @odysseusrex5908 Рік тому +1

    In one of the Sharpe novels, Sharpe's Eagle I think, Bernard Cornwell gives a chilling description of the breaking of a square.