HONDA ADV 350 - 1000km Owner’s Review
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- A 600 mile (1000 km) review of my ADV scooter after 6 weeks of ownership. What's good, and what's not so good...
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Video filmed in and around Albufeira in southern Portugal in February 2022.
Sintered brake pads: EBC SFA196HH - now removed as I actually prefer the feel of the OE pads
Equipment glimpsed: Knox Urbane Pro gloves and Segura Fergus jacket (brown)
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
01:01 Styling
02:13 Shorter riders?
02:40 Screen
03:24 Handguards
03:41 Switchgear
04:20 Brake levers
04:41 Getting on & off
05:15 Seat
06:00 Storage
06:55 Exhaust note
07:26 Brakes
07:48 Riding position
08:30 Fuel consumption
09:35 Costs
09:52 Suspension
10:30 Handlebars
10:42 Keyless
11:05 Pillion
11:43 Engine power
13:29 Handling
13:51 Quality
15:02 RocketScore
17:40 Conclusion - Авто та транспорт
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I’ve was never a fan of scooters, then I rode one, it’s perfect for running errands or riding around town, it’s the only bike my wife has agreed to get on the back.
Same here: I bought our first scooter for my wife to use, but ended up using it myself!
Same, bought a Forza 300 a couple of months ago to commute on instead of my Tiger 800. What a revelation. Twist and go, lots of storage, great mpg, light and easy to move around, and surprisingly fast.
lucky you…😂😂😂
@@RocketMan_Moto thanks for this review. I am concerned of a rear hard suspension for the pillion. And worse, it does not have adjustment. Will the pillion be comfortable over road imperfections?
My first motorized two wheeled vehicle was an old 49cc Honda Spree. I rode that thing everywhere, as an 18 year old guy! Just when most kids my age were getting hot rods or lifted 4x4 trucks, I was happier than a pig in slop riding my little two wheeler all over the county.
I watch a lot of reviews about bikes etc and have to say, that vid was spot on and covered so many details that most overlook, thanks for doing this man 👌
Thanks for your encouragement, much appreciated👍😊
I love it. I started on scooters about a hundred years ago. Practically, and fun.
Agreed - great machines
Thanks for the review, I really value your opinions on bikes like this.
Thanks, Aaron :)
Nice to hear from you again, I like the fact that you help us metric challenged Americans out when you do your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, Leonard :)
Good for you sir.
No photos of you or your good Lady.
Very wise.
Thank you for your report on the ADV 350cc.
Enjoyed it very much.
David.
Bangkok.
Thanks, David. Glad you enjoy my videos :)
your humor is the best..it does not matter what you talk about..thanks
Glad you appreciate it😊
I just bought the Honda pcx 150 and so far no problems and I’m loving it
It's only available as a 125 in many European countries, including Portugal, unfortunately. Still a great little scooter, though! Enjoy yours :)
Cracking review, had me chuckling a few times.
Thanks 👍
Thank you for the amazingly detailed yet concise review! I ride a 2006 CBR1000RR and an ADV150. The reversed horn and indicator buttons still confuse me to this day, and they are both Hondas!
Lol, yes it's an annoying quirk of Honda motorcycles. I am old enough to remember that Japanese cars in the 1970s & 80s had their wiper and indicator stalks the other way round compared to ALL other cars :)
Great review very helpful thank you 😊
Glad it was helpful!
Suite : merci pour votre gentillesse et vos efforts de post- production en français pour notre plus grand plaisir👍 Have à Nice day in the beautifull Algarve
area 😎 congratulations 🙏🙏
Do I still like the ADV after 5000km / 6 months?
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I have an older Forza and agree with every word in this review. My biggest trouble is the seat, but slouching into the backstop helps. Overall, great fun and practicality.
Thanks for your feedback😊👍
Merci pour cet excellent retour.
Scootériste depuis 22 ans, tout en étant motard, cet ADV sera le successeur de mon actuel SH 300.Merci également pour les essais en français.
Vince de Toulouse.
Merci à vous pour les encouragements. Je pense que vous serez agréablement surpris de l'ADV - le moteur 350 a un peu plus de peps par rapport au 300, et l'espace de rangement sous la selle est plus grand :)
Great review as usual - I really like the look/spec of the ADV350 and will be getting a test ride on one ASAP as I would use it for similar duties as you (albeit not in such good weather!). Seems like a lot of bike for the money in many ways all things considered.
Thanks, Edward. I certainly wouldn't be without mine; it's a really useful means of transport :)
A very well-presented and thought out review. Although I have never ridden a scooter, I can agree with you concerning the seat, the sound ( I prefer quieter ones) and m.p.g.
Thanks. I think an electric scooter will probably be my first electric vehicle in a couple of years, if only for the silence😊
I've just found your channel and really like it. You had negative comments about the ADV's seat, and I agree. I had a Honda 300 Forza (here in Australia) and it had a similar problem. I had a motorcycle upholsterer re-shape and re-cover the seat to remove the bum bustle. This gave me a nice long seat which was super easy to move back and forward on and was much more comfortable than the standard seat. I did many multi-day tours around New South Wales and Victoria. It was a great little tourer.
Stay safe, Peter
Thanks, Peter. Yes, it's a pity about the short seat, but I was interested to hear you somehow managed to reshape it. I had imagined the need to preserve the space for the rear helmet under the seat would have made any reshaping very difficult.
@Peter Anderson, I really was liking this bike, but the seat issues and not being able to move feet is a real problem for me as I'm 201cm tall with size 12 feet. But knowing I can reupholster the seat gives me hope.
At first I thought this review was going to be too negative. However, the detail and honesty emerged and was very helpful giving a well-balanced overall review. Very professional. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
good review, thank you
Thanks for your feedback👍😊
Dear Mr Rocketman,
En tant que français, je regrette déjà de ne plus entendre votre ressenti en toute objectivité comme motard expérimenté : votre sympathique accent et votre sens de l’humour « so british « était comme un cadeau supplémentaire à chaque vidéo 🏍🏆 Ne laissez pas les « rageux » nous privez de vos vidéos vos abonnés
Cher Laurent. Merci pour ce gentil mot et pour vos encouragements. Le problème, c'est que ça demandait vraiment beaucoup de temps supplémentaire : le français étant généralement un peu moins concis que l'anglais, il était extrêmement difficile de synchroniser l'audio en français avec les images de la version anglaise. Par conséquent, je faisais des vidéos très simples, pour ne pas dire banales, afin de pouvoir coller le voiceover français plus facilement. Résultat, la qualité générale de mes vidéos en anglais avait commencé à souffrir. La seule solution sera de faire des vidéos complètement séparées en français, ce qui risque de me prendre trop de temps. Mais rien n'est exclu, je verrai bien par la suite :)
"Remind of my karate days" cracked me 😂! Thanks for the genuine opinion!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for your feedback😊
10:25 ,,Life is short and you need to pick your battles'' Came for a Honda ADV 350 review, got a pretty solid Life philosophy as a bonus. Thanks👌
:)
haha what a fun review. thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Your video convinced me to pull the trigger. Thanks!
Wow, that’s gratifying😊 I’m sure you’ll enjoy it, great scooter. When’s it arriving?
@@RocketMan_Moto Booking it now it should arrive final April.
If I ever need to start commuting for work that's the one I'll go for. Weirdly I kinda like the looks of it. Thanks for the review!
It's a great everyday work horse
@@RocketMan_Moto I'll hopefully take delivery of my Trident this week, if you'd like to meet at Triumph Algarve I'll let you know when.
Sounds good :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Great! I'll keep you posted.
Post a separate/new comment, otherwise I probably won't see the message - UA-cam sort of hides long threads from me and I don't see the updates.
I find it fits right in with my needs and don’t care what others may have to say. I ride what I like and am not a joiner for any crowd or type.
Good attitude👏
The scenery is just gorgeous! I would love to ride that scooter there. Not sure I would owe one though.
They're better than you think :)
Just ordered new ADV 160. Interesting to see how it compares with your 350 experiences. Cheers for the review 👍🏻
Nice. Enjoy
@@RocketMan_Moto Living in Jakarta has some benefits; Small capacity, locally made Hondas for everyone and first in the queue for new models 👍🏻
BTW regarding the terrible noise, switching out those CVT OEM parts with aftermarkets is super popular here. Did the same with my PCX 150, it is now quieter, smoother, and a liitle quicker. Cheers
goodluck on your adv 160 it has alot of issues 😂
@@itzerisadomeeiot4980 no problems for nearly a year. All good
I need one of these in my life!
I think we all do. Just so useful😊
@@RocketMan_Moto I always liked the ADV750 but will never own another DCT bike, shame as I loved that gearbox.
Yes, the DCT is… an acquired taste😉
@@RocketMan_Moto it broke on my 18 month old bike and Honda struggled to fix it. 😐
Great review. I have a 2012 Honda PCX 150 it's great around town, can fit a full face helmetunderthe seat. Will do 130km/h flat out. I average about 2.4 l/100km. Thinking about upgrading to the new PCX 160.
Thanks, Martin. Unfortunately we don't really get anything between 125 and 300cc here in Europe. AS you need a full bike licence for anything over 125cc, most people who get their licence want a 500 or bigger. I can imagine that a PCX 160 is a great little scooter.
PCX 160 or new ADV 160? For me ADV since PCX tends to crash around due to limited rear suspension (I have PCX 150 2018). Just ordered ADV 160, awaiting delivery 👍🏻
I bought the PCX (160) a month ago and am still learning to ride it. I tell people it is like riding a nimble SeaDoo watercraft around downtown streets. I wish we in the US had the option of buying these larger scooters like Europe and Asia gets. The closest is the Yam XMAX 300.... if anyone can find one in stock. So I will just have to learn the techniques to get the most out of the PCX I have. Its reasonably light weight helps a lot on maneuvering it and MPG.
The PCX is the best selling 2-wheeled vehicle in the UK. Excellent run-around for the real world. Yes, big bikes make you look tough, but what everyone really needs is a scooter😊
I ride both bikes and scooters, both have their uses and both are always fun to ride.
Couldn't agree more :)
I'm a curious newbie. What makes you choose one over the other on a given day? If you had to choose to have only one, would you go for a bike or the scooter?
I had a an adv 150cc i enjoyed it but not enough power when u wanna over take trucks then when i watched your review on honda cb500x 2018 model i bought one too ...now am waiting for this adv 350 to arrive in Phils.
You never lack power with the 350, at least until about 60mph
I have NC 750 (2018) manual box and Forza 300 (2013), consumption of 3,6 and 3,3 L/100, very happy about both, love the common sense that Honda implement on their engines if you aren’t Marquez on the road!!
I'm hoping my consumption drops a bit. I think 3.3-3.4 like your Forza is achievable
@@RocketMan_Moto Sure!! I have to say that I like a smooth ride with my bikes maybe for the reason I love Honda engines but I appreciate so much your objective reviews!!
Thanks so much
Thanks, Miguel. Ride safe :)
Objective & fair review, RM. I think I'll have to try one. And you managed to upset the French as well, so two for the price of one! 😳
Lol! Yes, try one - they're better (or less awful) than you might imagine :)
Loved the comments about adequate power as you’re overtaken by a van. That timing couldn’t have been a coincidence.
It was actually. The van didn’t help illustrate my point but the ADV is a good bike to cruise on😎
It felt like it’d been edited with tongue firmly in cheek. And not a scooter sceptic at all, my nmax is the perfect form of transport for round Lisbon. I even see the fact that it blends in quite nicely with all the Uber Eats a bonus. Though I came across your channel as now I have a garage and live out of town I’m looking into a Speed Twin..
Scooters are fabulous means of transport, especially with a passenger… but I’m not selling my Speed Twin any time soon. Unless Triumph give us a Speed Twin Turbo😬
Bravo for this new video. I intend to do a one month trip ( 2000 km with this model next november from Chiang Mai, to North East, and North West Thaïland. There are the most amazing roads to ride in this country. 5( Nan, Phrae, Phayao, Mae Hong Son Provinces ) I will rent it at CNX. Continue to make us beautiful and interesting videos-tests like this? please. Best regards, Tony.
Sounds fantastic - enjoy :)
Rocket man has the best voice for a non-pro... 👍😁
Thank you :)
"LIfe is short and you need to pick your battles" - words to live by
And here I am, 12 months later, ordering a Transalp from them😊
I would love you to do a comparison to the well known Suzuki Bergman .
I’ve never owned a scooter until I just did a “ project “ restoration on a 1949 Cushman with a 7 h p rope start engine .
I’m “ hooked “ !
Lol ! Good job on the narration sir !
Thank you :)
when I was doing mods on my W650 I rode my brother's Sym fiddle 2 ...125 engine... Loved the practicality, and I know exactly what you mean about springing into action when twisting the throtle... It wasn't no once or twice that I did race a pizza delivery guy at a lightstop. :D... One of my possible buys to take my kids to school would be a yamaha tricity 350, to add the extra wheel on the front for riding in Lisbon's cobblestone and tram lines with extra security. nifty "little" machines... I even used it for storing my two helmets everyday, So I wouldn't have to take them home :D
Totally get this. Scooters are great for zipping around, transporting kids and doing the shopping. I’ve just fitted a backrest to my ADV to make it even easier to carry a passenger😊
Many thank for review. I’m on my way to dealer right now )
Have fun!
@@RocketMan_Motoalready do! Just a simple question - the seat/fuel button of your ADV also vibrates on certain revs with a unpleasant sound?
No, never had that problem. Maybe the sound is drowned out by the rear rollers :(
@@RocketMan_Moto definitely the button. It has the free play on both sides, so when the engine is running, it comes into resonance and knocks 😅
🙁
Love the wide handlebars and stiffer suspension compared to the Forza and PCX
EXCELLENT.
Many thanks!
That Triumph though .. mein got .. beyond gorgeous .
Thanks😊
Monsieur
Juste pour vous que j'ai toujours apprécié vos vidéos . Votre travail est de très bonne qualité. Toutes mes félicitations. Et merci énormément pour continuer à nous faire bénéficier des essais.
Entre nous là bêtise humaine n'a pas de limite.
Petite question car je sais à travers vos vidéos : où est votre Honda trop?
Merci pour vos encouragements. Malheureusement, en ce moment, les versions françaises de mes vidéos demandent un peu trop de temps, et comme je reçois bien plus de critiques négatives de la part de vos compatriotes, comparé aux vidéos en anglais, je vous laisse tomber pour le moment. Mais rien n'est exclu et ça reviendra peut-être un jour. Sinon, je n'ai pas bien compris votre question à la fin... :)
@@RocketMan_Moto désolé. Ç 'est une erreur de frappe sur mon clavier. Je vous posais la question suivante. N'avez vous plus votre Honda Grom 125?
I live in Norway and did 3500km on mine already, only minus I can find if not compare to other bikes are very heard and not adjustable rear shocks, and as you said front brake are not sharp at all,I will order a bigger brake disc from Thailand. I also installed aftermarket brake handels with hand brake function on rear brake, that was really good.
My real fuel consumption are 2,9L / 100km. But the instrument shows 3,6L / 100km.
I will consider go for some YSS rear shocks. I love the handling on the bike, it handles all roads very nice and I ride with a big smile all the time 🙂
Interesting comment about your fuel consumption. I have never checked it 'manually', maybe I am doing better than the indicated 3.5 L/100km too?
like me on my xmax 300
I broke my hand racing an enduro bike..the thought of not riding bikes was too much so I bought a 7 year old forza 300....ive hardly ridden anything else since...absolutely wonderful little machine...never fails to make me smile...so much fun to ride....when I tell most bikers they say.....yeah...yeah...yeah...but i would never be seen dead on one.!...And in this youre missing out I say....are you riding for the thrill of riding or just to be seen as a biker!
Completely agree. I use my ADV several times a day, because just so practical. The Speed Twin hardly gets a look in, especially in winter, because it's such a faff putting all the gear on and, of course, I can't carry anything I might buy. Thanks for your feedback :)
Hey, nice review! I have the same bike. Did you manage to fit x ADV post market leavers to it? cheers
No, they don’t fit either😟
Adv 150 users here, the smallest version has an amazing ride experience with awesome suspension. I'm looking for this version but sad I'm just 173cm, controlling this bike in southeast asia traffic will be difficult
Yes, the 350 is a much bigger bike. Not ideal for heavy traffic
Nunggu adv 160 ngabb 😅
im a honda adv150 rider too and we are the same height i guess i was around 173 174 and i found my self good and comfort riding it or slip between cars,the only thing for me is i want a little pick up speed for it thats all, maybe after 2 years the warranty expired i will changed it pulley tyres filter and etc
Just ordered new ADV 160. Looks even better for shorter riders and traffic 👍🏻
Very fine review. Do you need more for riding through the landscape? I also have a scooter Piaggio BV 350 and a Motorbike. I only like the Motorbike more for touring, because of the better suspensions, but not because of the power.
Can you say something about the suspension on the ADV - mabye in comparison to a motorbike?
I agree, it's sometimes nicer to go slowly and enjoy the scenery! The ADV's suspension is excellent for a scooter, but not quite as nice as what you'll find on a proper bike. The rear shocks are a bit too firm, and contrary to what Honda stated in their original press releases, they cannot be adjusted :(
I am seriously tempted by one of these bikes. I own a 2020 ZZR1400 but one of these to commute on would be ideal...especially with fuel approaching £8 a gallon.....
Do it. I'm the first to admit they look a bit dorky, especially next to a Speed Twin or a ZZR, but honestly, once you're riding it, you don't care. Think of it as a Transit van - not sexy, but oh so useful :)
If I was on the market for a scooter that would be the one!
It's the perfect compromise between the weedy little 125 scooters and the over-priced maxis :)
Nicely presented. I just visited the Czech Republic and was riding around for 8 days on a Honda PCX 125 throughout the country. Found it sufficient for my use, except for the lack of luggage space. After the trip I visited a motorcycle dealer and saw this ADV 350. That's the scooter I'd buy if I could. In a place that has very twisty roads and villages/towns every couple of km riding a PTW with an automatic seems more practical. Plus it's hard to beat the convenience of the boot/trunk. Here in Canada I have a scooter - Vespa GTS 300 and find the power sufficient. Also, I have a bike - F750GS - and as much as it has a very nice ride and comfortable riding position, for European riding I prefer a (light-ish) scooter.
Scooters aren’t really cool, but there’s no denying they’re much easier to ride than a ‘real’ motorcycle😊
@@user-lm3fi2ee4x Of course, as long as you find the riding position comfortable for longer hours on the bike. The drive belt in the transmission may not last as long as a chain, but it shouldn't be a big deal bringing a spare one with some tools.
@@user-lm3fi2ee4x Hmm, maybe. At the same time one could say that sitting on a Motorbike gives you a better control , and depending on the bike and how it's equipped it can leave a gap between the pavement and the bike so your leg doesn't get crushed. Hiking boots can be used as riding boots. Sliding along the pavement at 60 kph it doesn't matter if you came off a scooter or a bike - there better be good riding gear
Hi very nice video! I thing I will wait for a adv 500cc if they will made it, it would be nice to hear your opinion for the Xmas 300!
An ADV750 with the 58hp of the Forza/X-ADV would be nice, although these would have a chain drive. I doubt Honda will ever give us a 500.
Few Americans like or ride scooters. I started riding scooters three years ago and now split my riding time between the Bonneville, the Himalayan, and the big Burgman. Many of the criticisms you listed for the Honda also apply to the Burgman. I would love a shot at riding the the 350 ADV but it is not available in the US (nor is the Forza). I prefer my scooter to my Tacoma for anything within 50 miles of travel (gym, groceries). I rode it 140 miles to Daytona this year during Bike Week and was generally ignored. So be it. Ride safe RocketMan. (From the colonies)
I get that completely. I enjoy my Speed Twin, but the ADV is our go-to bike for 90% of our rides. So practical. Ride safe😊
Great point about the horn button, why do Honda insist on doing this? In an emergency I always default to my lifelong automatic memory of bottom left. Obviously this is only a problem if you ride multiple bikes but is a safety concern. Maybe it should be made mandatory to standardise the position.
It is annoying, particularly when you think how easy it would be to rectify
I would ride around Europe on it. Slowly. Taking the scenic route enjoying the landscape and coffee stops as much as the ride. Might not be my first choice but it would do the job. Differently.
Happy travels 👍
I agree it could be done
I did something very similar last year and spent 2 weeks on a Yamaha Xmax touring Spain. It was completely capable for the trip and ideal for getting around in the cities along the way. Also great lockable storage space under the seat that allowed me to stop and see things I would probably not have done or seen. I'll likely to it again soon.
I plan to tour in France and Spain this May on an ADV350. The storage is a big help for travelling. The bike is more than adequate for the job. Very stable on windy, truck filled highways.
I agree it can be done, I'd just rather take a GoldWing, lol :)
Not a pizza fan then?😆
Love your videos, thank you for taking the time to share. Question, I live in the US, but will keep one of these in Lisbon. I’m coming back in July, and will put down a deposit at that time. I understand you live in the Algarve, but, would you happen to be familiar with any of the Honda dealers in Lisbon? I have not contacted any yet, but I am concerned about needing to wait an extended period of time before I could receive one. Lastly, I have not done my homework, but I have a US drivers license and have driven in Portugal using that legally, of course. I will not be a Portugal resident, would you happen to know if there is anything I need to satisfy to operate the scooter legally? Thanks again for your time…
Thanks! We began our adventures here in Cascais, so I do know the Lisbon dealers quite well. I bought 3 new Hondas from Linhaway in Cascais and was very happy with their service. Artur spoke decent English, but I’m not sure if he is still there. Try linhaway.pt. As for legislation, you can ride up to a 125cc bike on a car licence with no additional training (other EU countries require a minimum course of about 1 day), but 126 and above - so for the ADV 350 - you need a full bike licence, which is a relatively long process involving several weeks training and a final theoretical and practical exam. All that said, I’m not sure how things work if you’re a temporary visitor from outside the EU. One way to find out would be to inquire at a bike rental company. Hope this helps.
Thanks for great review. I'm 2m tall and considering Adv 350 or NC 750 X DCT as my only bike for commuting. What would you choose?
You would need to try both, of course, but I think either would suit you fine. I could have bought the NC instead of the ADV, but I just find scooters so practical, even if they are less sexy :)
Just to say, no clutch lever on that ....but love the honest review
Force of habit😉
Really nice review i was never into scooter until i seen the Honda ADV 150 I'm in USA we don't have have 350 now thats i really want.
Thanks 😊
I initially wanted to exchange my small Aerox 155 for the MT 03 for my daily 10 hours ride but was discouraged by many and until I saw this in the showroom which is more practical for my work. The only bad part is the price! Which is abt 18.4k euros(for 10 years) as I live in a country, Singapore which every vehicles need to pay COE(certificate of entitlement which is about 7.8k euro of ownership for 10 years) excluding road tax and insurance. Its a huge amount. But tomorrow I am going to the showroom to get the documents signed 😊... Thanks for your both reviews. Greatly appreciate 😊😊😊
Wow, that is expensive😳 But you have made a good choice: the ADV 350 is a great scooter
@@RocketMan_Moto just got all the documents signed yesterday BUT the bike can only be officially launched to customers on September 😂
Only a few weeks👍😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Hi mate, sorry for couple of questions. Does your side offer the box that can be opened by the key(as seen from honda launch video) and also connect to phone via Bluetooth?
This scooter is beautiful and perfection.
We wouldn't be without ours. Supremely useful :)
@@RocketMan_Moto It's perfect.
wonderful video. and I love the personal "fart" opinion. more down-to-earth kinda review. cheers
Thanks for your feedback😊👍
For the next test can we get Kymco xciting 400s? I really want to hear your opinion on kymco build quality. From the pictures at least it looks way more solid. Also, your voice is pleasant to listen, cheers
I'll do my best. It all depends what demonstrator bikes the dealers here get in.
We do not need any test here - this is evident 😀
I have no problem with scooters. Every time i go on holiday in Spain or the Greek islands the first thing i do is hire out a scooter. They are cheap to run you can put a load of beer under the seat and take it back to your apartment. Fantastic from going from A - B. Cheers !!
Lol, exactly. I wouldn't be without one. My wife uses the car, but I much prefer the ADV :)
thanks for the review, how is it on uphills?, arpund 15 -20 degrees, how fast does go?, does it slows down and flats in 50kph like a pcx?
No problem at all, it has plenty of power. Surprising for only 30hp, but it really has some go :)
.... Thanks, that was very informative. You should try a Burgman, I live in NE Brazil and have an ageing 2006 400 which I love, even after leaving my 1200 Sportster in Bolivia when I moved here in 2007. Chris.
I have ridden a friend's Burgman and was very impressed. My wife is from Recife :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Ye Gods ! What a small world we live in, I live in Vila Velha on the Ilha de Itamaracá, just 40kms up the coast from Recife ! Do you ever visit Brazil ?
This is me ! - ua-cam.com/video/YiD1aoURYwQ/v-deo.html
Hoping to come in the next couple of months. My wife is actually from Olinda and used to have a beach house not far from Itamaraca :)
I love my scooter Freedom 150, but I am in the process of upgrading to the Honda ADV 350
You won’t be disappointed
Hi RM
Just looking back at this. My wife won’t ride pillion on my T120 (too tall for her to swing over) so I showed her this Scooter and the Forza and explained step over, move back to the rider sear and then up to the pillion seat. She is really interested so perhaps an option next spring. Like the styling of this (not anti scooter) but think Forza might suit is better.
Regards
Den
Good call. I never take Mrs RM on my Speed Twin, far too risky, but the ADV (or Forza) is great for 2 people, especially with the backrest👍
i thought i spotted another us aircraft carrier passing the algarve , = but zoomed in and saw it was your new scoot dwarfing the speed twin ;;; but have to agree as a town bike with all that stowage it is handy , also seems to ride smooth on road for a small wheeled bike ,, yes the mirrors are very inset,,, and the left hand switch gear and wiring are terrible ,, but horses for courses a two up local scoot is its job .... 30 bhp seems low for all that go ,, i suspect it has a bit more = as my old lighter rd250 had 30 and would top out at 85 to 90 . keep doing the vids thanks ;;;
Thanks :) The ADV is the perfect second bike to use for daily running around. I won't be selling the Speed Twin, though!
I want one!
They're great, loving mine
Keyless is great, however both my new Honda scooter keyless failed multiple times even after 6 key fob battery changes. They should just have a flip key backup. (keep a spare battery). I've learnt never turn your engine off in traffic as sometimes it does not recognise the key
Sorry to hear that! Good tip re. turning off engine, I'll remember that :)
Thank you for the review, to be honest yours is the most negative review I have seen for this scooter so far. I have yet to test it but will in due course 😊
Not trying to be negative, just honest😊
Thank you for English speak.Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱
Olà from Portugal. Thank you for accepting 2.5 million refugees from Ukraine👏👏👏😊
@@RocketMan_Moto More than 5 mln I think...
There is always a huge step in fuel consumption from 125cc to 300 o 350cc, my ex G310R did 3,5 l/100km, and most other 300 or 350cc bike are around 3,5-4 l/100km as well, to me the best engine in the motorbike world for consumption/power is the 500cc honda engine that the cb500 line has, it has pretty much the same 3,5l/100km consumption as a 300cc but in a 500cc with 48hp which is great
I agree that Honda's 500cc engine is great on fuel
I used to get 100 miles per gallon from my Honda NC750-X DCT...
I’m about to pick up a 125 scooter in a months time, and I am already planning the 350cc scooter after that. It was going to be the Forza, but this ADV is starting to get interesting.
125s are great for learning essential road skills, but 350s are more fun😊 The Forza is a great alternative to the ADV.
Hello, ty for the review.
I was asking myself if the ADV is not too large for the town to pass between cars ? Is the Forza better for this ? I'm really hesitating between these 2 bikes. I want the more practical in daily life.
They're both the same width, so I would go for the more modern ADV. Unless, weather protection is important for you?
@@RocketMan_Moto not that much. Thank you !
Scooter is the best mode of transport esp in congested city...its the perfect replacement for a car for commuting, wt a top box. I hv a kawasaki J300 which i use forcommuting to work...very convenient, can bring my lap top & leave my helmet & riding gears on the bike instead of having to carry all stuffs if i'm using a bike
Totally agree. Couldn't be without my ADV :)
Enjoyed your review.
I hired one for a test ride in Thailand, since the dealers don't allow you a test drive, and I must disagree with the rating of the handling, I consider it to be far superior to the Forza 350, which I already own. The Forza has a tendency to want to fall over in tight slow maneuvering, whereas the ADV is very chuck-able, even though it's a tad heavier, it also inspires much more confidence in cornering at speed, feeling much more planted on the road.
I also consider silver is the best colour, however it's disappointing they couldn't get the pillion grab bars to match, maybe black would look less bulky and more cohesive.
The manual slot under the seat is a nuisance, as it reduces the capacity considerably by almost an inch of headroom below the seat level, and I have sawn off the ones on the Forza, to enable a bulging backpack to fit, and I can't understand why the glove box is not lockable, like the Forza.
I've just completed a very comfortable countrywide tour of almost 7,000kms on my Forza, and would happily do the same on an ADV.
Thanks for your feedback😊👍
@@RocketMan_Moto Hi, Take it on a long run, you'll surely enjoy it, and it's easy with all that space for luggage.
I have done several longer trips. Only problem I have is lower back pain after about 1 hour😬
@@RocketMan_Moto Sorry to hear that. I too had back problems the last couple of years, culminating in chronic sciatica, ending under the knife to cure a herniated disc. It took 5 months to heal the muscle they dug through for the micro discectomy surgery, but well worth it in the end.
I was only right for about 2 months before I took off on my trip. Come to Bangkok, I can recommend an excellent surgeon, he gave me back my life, best money I've ever spent.
Hope you can find a cure. 🤞🤞
Cheers, Chris :)
* Pourquoi pas de version française ? C'est beaucoup de travail (traduction et surtout synchronisation de la voix avec la vidéo d’origine), pour relativement peu de vues. De plus, je reçois un nombre disproportionné de commentaires méchants, voire agressifs (que j’ai supprimés), donc pour l’instant, je laisse tomber les versions en français.
* Why no French version? Translating and re-synchronising the voiceover to the original video is a lot of work for a relatively small number of views and I’m seeing a disproportionate number of nasty, sometimes aggressive, comments from the French audience.
Dommage . J'aime bien tes présentations .
Aux armes citoyens... pourqouis les français sont si en colère?
Hélas ça ne m'étonne pas. Mais c'est bien dommage, vu le niveau de qualité de tes essais. Bon, on fera un effort, et ça permet de progresser en anglais. Tant que tu ne te mets pas à la diction écossaise ou australienne, ça ira 😉
Une question toutefois: j'ai écarté le forza au profit du SH, les suspensions du premier étant à mon goût proches de celles d'un skateboard 😱
Qu'en est-il de cet ADV qui me tente beaucoup ?
@@babarsport276 Bon chance Olivier avec tes études en anglais. C'est le même pour moi en français! 🇫🇷 🇬🇪
@@mrsilbo6499 😉
I don't really trust journalist reviews anymore. The MCM one that I just watched, for example, is pretty shallow. This is why your videos are a refreshing change from what is posted elsewhere.
Anyway... my main beef with the 350 (SH, Fz, ADV) is the fuel consumption that has sharply raised compared to the 300. My SH 300 averages 3 L/100km road (not highway) and 3,5 city. The 350 has identical fuel capacity, which means that the range has taken a hit, averaging 250 kilometers instead of 300. From my perspective, the 350 SH offers too little improvements to justify the switch.
But... The ADV changes all that. OK, it's a bigger bike, but a bigger bike is sometimes a good thing (since I also own a Vision 110, you know like me that we are prone to street bullying). I would also like to feel what the double yoke fork brings to the behaviour on disrepaired tarmac. Some say it's more confortable than the Forza because of the longer travel of the suspension.
According to my dealer, the ADV are sold as soon as they arrive. I might consider selling my SH to get an ADV despite the 1.000 euro markup.
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement. I agree that the consumption so far on my ADV 350 has been slightly disappointing at 3.6ltr/100km, but I am hoping it improves a bit as the engine loosens up. I do miss my Vision 110 though, unbeatable with its 1.6ltr/100km, as you will know :)
I'm considering a Kawasaki Versys 650 for when I've passed my test this year, I'd be interested in your opinion on thar particular bike :)
Difficult to get hold of Kawasakis down here😟
Great scooter right up until the point I got a puncture and needed to replace the rear tyre. Contacted 5 dealers here in the UK and all said they can't get one, one even saying that they are no longer made. So I've had to swap both tyres to Michelin street tyres, not so much an adventure scooter now. Come on Honda these are consumables!!!!!
Wow, that must have hurt. I thought these Metzeler Karoo Street tyres were readily available!
@@RocketMan_Moto Not in 14"
Similar issues with PCX and ADV 150-160 even here in Asia. Hopefully tyre companies will catch up with these odd sizes. 🙏🏻
How does it compare to T-Max? I know Tmax engine is almost 2x powerful, but is there really 8k euro difference? Also you mentioned wind around legs when riding, that is more of a concern to me than looks of the scooter itself.
If wind protection is important to you, then I would go for the Forza 350 instead. The TMax is more powerful, but it's stupidly expensive, imho :)
I want a scoot! But cant afford and store 2 bikes.. Currently got a cb500x.. Was thinking the adv 750 to get the best of both worlds.. 😅 thanks for the vid!
Problem I have with the X-ADV 750 is the chain drive, non-adjustable screen, tiny under-seat storage and, of course, the fact that it costs literally twice the price of the 350!
I'm not a fan of the scooter look but that one looks pretty good, at least from the front
Btw I would like you to review some Yamaha and Kawasaki bikes too if possible :)
So would I - the dealers here can't get the bikes, though :(
I get scooters and understand the review. Isn't it a pity that we can't have one of everything in our garages?
Every man should have at least 5 bikes :)
Frankly the ADV 350 looked, to me, quite a bit better than the standard motorcycle in the garage.
Fair enough! The Triumph is much more fun to ride, though😊
As a happy owner of the ADV150, I thoroughly enjoyed that review. Not that I have a choice of buying an ADV350 here in Australia, but I often wonder if the larger bulk and weight of the 350 version would outweigh the benefits of having the extra horsepower, particularly for a shorter guy like me. The extra width of the seat and body is very noticeable in the pics/video I have seen.
The 150 looks great. Unfortunately we don’t get it in Europe🤷♂️
One of the issues I have with Scooters (Had a Burgman 650 for a while) is checking the air in the rear tire. Looks like this bike could be a bit of a pain in that department as well. Fat fairings, disk on one side, big transmission on the other. Or at least I found it a pain and couldn't really do it with a helmet on.
It's not easy, but at least Honda have given us a 90° valve on the rear (not on the front, though)
@@RocketMan_Moto Better than my Burgman which didn't have a 90 valve. At least with the front you only have the single rotor. The right side look easy enough to get to.
I have trouble with my bloody Z900.
You can get an attachment that sits it at an angle
Bugger, got to wait til tomorrow
Sorry😀
thank you for an earnest review i brought the Big brother XADV 750 mostly the same design and i hate the say it
it was a wrong bike for me i got a lot of pain in the ass and the bike and seat were to wide to reach the ground (i am 183cm)
to call it ADV are not correct standing are rather impossible sitting you have to control the bike with the ass because you can not hold it with your knees , living in a wet Sweden you get a lot of dirt and dust under the the plastic body and the frame started to rust only after 6 months and to remove plastic body requires special skills.
So the kind dealer took it back and i got an Africa Twin DCT instead.
That's a bit worrying, but I think rust problems are becoming more and more common again these days, as manufacturers try to reduce costs :(
@@RocketMan_Moto it is but you live in the Sunny Portugal i can also understand that you like the CTC gearbox better than the DCT on this bike
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'à bit like sitting on a horse', well I could never get my feet on the ground on them either! Scary things, they have control over the throttle and brake....
For taller - or extremely acrobatic - riders only😉
A really great review! To the point!
Unfortunately a big disappointment is the rear suspension which is very firm despite the fact that is supposed to be an off road scooter too and not adjustable!!😪
Thanks, keep up the good work!!
Thanks, Anton. After about 1300km, I’m finding the rear shocks are loosening up a bit
@@RocketMan_Moto so u would advise me to buy it instead of xmax 300? Thanks again
I prefer it over the Xmax 300, which I found a bit underpowered, but you need to try it for yourself of course😊
@@RocketMan_Moto thank u very much indeed!
Thanks for the great review. I ride Xmax400, and would consider this ADV350 as second scooter, as i like the design. You cant compare motorrides of bikes and scooter. I had trail bikes in the past, but the practical and hasslefree use and front weatherprotection make the rides more anjoyable. What about lights duing night rides, are they good, sufficient?
Thanks and greetings, keep on safe rides.
Bonjour monsieur, alors le ADV toujours aussi satisfait ? Moi je l ai commandé en attendant la nouvelle version du xadv 750 prévu pour cette année ! Vous pourriez lui rajouter un p'tit pot akra ou des poignées chauffantes , aussi une bulle haute touring de chez wrs?
Génial, ce scooter. Je m'en sers plusieurs fois par jour et il est très polyvalent. Par contre, je n'aurai pas envie d'ampflifier le bruit déjà horrible en ajoutant un pot Akra :)
Great review. Did you say 2.20 Euros per litre? That's more than the UK.
I saw €2.30 yesterday :(
I would trade my bike for your scenery every day! 🙂
I think you would be surprised, how many bikers started with a scooter - my first 50K km were on a Vespa 200. Brakes - I actually don't remember if she had any
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Haha, yes scooter brakes are a bit wooden compared to huge double-disc setups on a ‘real’ motorbike😬
@@ArmadilloGodzilla Sadly, mine is long gone. But still thinking fondly of that robust, red scooter with its two-stroke engine 🙂