Fiat VSS prototype | Italian Car design | 1980s Cars | Concept Car | Wheels | 1981
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- 'Wheels' presenter Chris Goffey visits the Fiat experimental center in Turin, to take a look at the Fiat VSS concept car.
First shown: 05/11/1981
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Beautiul years, when each european automobile brand had its own character and personality...
The VSS concept was the forerunner of the Tipo modular platform which made its debut in 1988. This was the beginning of the common modular platform we see today where cars share the same superstructure but hanging different body panels to what suits the badge the car is wearing. Think VW Group and PSA today, or the Type 4 programme (SAAB 9000, Alfa 64, Fiat Croma, Lancia Thema) in the 80s and early 90s. It effectively replaced badge engineering among family brands. Next up is Toyota's New Global Architecture.
@2.00 A Volkswagen Jetta Mark 2!
Chris Goffey!
many modern cars live 20 years now..
At the time it was an achievement for a Fiat (or Alfa or Lancia....) to get to the dealer in one piece rather than as a pile of red powder.
Really? The manufacturers build them with the same life expectancy as a washing machine. Hence sealed for life gearboxes.
@@6ettinold Yes indeed. It's simply not in the manufacturers interests to build cars that last 20 years or so. Where's the money in that?
Some do. My 1994 Toyota Celica has only ever broken down once in the 21 years I've owned it. But not all cars are quite Toyota quality: www.colin99.co.uk/mycar-2018.jpg
@@GaryJohnWalker1 rovers and leylands lived less than a fart but british enviouses are still sucking Italian cocks for a livin'.
Hanging body panels onto a base-frame? A new idea? Er, Rover did it 20 years previously with the P6 and Citroen did it even earlier with the DS. Sorry Fiat, but it's already been done.
Not sure they claimed to be the first.
Neither Rover nor Citroen did it with plastic! I would guess GM’s Pontiac Fiero was one of the first mainstream cars from a major manufacturer to use plastic body panels.
No, you're missing the point.
This was to allow *different* cars to be made from the same basic shell.
@@itstheterranaut Rover originally designed the base frame construction with the intention of being able to reskin the P6 at a later stage in the model's production. As it turned out, the car continued to sell strongly and they were able to get away with a mild facelift rather than a complete reskin. I'm reading James Taylor's"The Classic Rovers" at the mo. Well worth a read if you're interested in the design and production of Rover cars. Was written quite a while ago, so it only goes as far as the P6, but it's a mine of information and very well written. As for Citroen though, I'm afraid I know very little about the DS and their reasons for base frame construction, but I know that car sold strongly too and had a very long production run with very little change to the basic body design.
@@matthewgodwin3050 Interesting, thanks- and thanks for the recommendation on the book.
Ultimately bean counters won and some of ideas have become mainstream.
I am real excited about these new automobiles from Fiat, when will they commence to produce these new auto ?
This was filmed in 1981
@@fishbmw so you can buy these car already?
@@fishbmw I will be head straight to there flat dealer to see if he still has these new car :-(
about 1985 says the italian project manager.
For some reason, Fiat discontinued cars in the USA in the early 1980s. It took another 30 years before Fiat brought back their cars.
@Jody Owen Oh Dear! The Original Classic Mini was FWD/Front Engine a decade before the FIAT 128 appeared so not very revolutionary then.
@@williamwoods8022 why do people like you have to sound arsy? What's the 'oh dear' all about? Can't you just politely point out the that the Mini beat the 128 timeline wise.
@@williamwoods8022 The Mini package was flawed with the gearbox in the sump. How many manufacturers have used that layout since? Exactly. The 128/Autobianchi layout designed by Giacosa with the seperate end-on gearbox and unequal length driveshafts is the blueprint for the modern front wheel drive car.
It looks like they struggled to make the plastic panels with the precision of steel ones. That prototype would have been hand assembled with all the parts carefully placed and yet the panel gaps and overall fit and finish looks pretty poor. That said, they should have done a dent test and I am sure that car is very hard to dent.
Plastics expand and contract more with temperature changes than sheetmetal. Road tests of Saturns always talked about how wide their panel gaps were, not at all like a Toyota or Honda from the '90s/00s, but they were a technical necessity.
“Ironmongery”
Looks like golf mk 2
Looks like a Ford Ka+
That Fiat has a distinct look of the Škoda Favorit.
Front looks a bit like a fiat uno,
Rear is skoda favorit
All of it looks like a yugo sana
You are right. The Yugo Sana is based on the Fiat Tipo which has a modular superstructure derived from the VSS prototype in the video. The Italian designer chap was spot-on about the time-line, the Tipo made it's debut in 1988.
dcanmore id forgotten all about the tipo,now you've said it,yea it's obviously tipo
The Skoda Favorit was a Bertone design so...yes it does look spookily similar to that Fiat in places doesn't it.
I think as an idea it was a bit ahead of it's time. Look at Sports cars and others now with lots of carbon fibre.
i can hear that FIAT concept car rusting, even if it's mainly made with plastic
Typical french envious sissy
That car was begging to have a handbrake turn on the test track.
This wouldn't fly today with the current plastic crisis. Even McDonalds have switched to paper straws now. Lol.
Yeah but you could use this same concept with conventional stamped sheet metal just as easily.
Interesting. You can see the design direction Fiat was heading in back then.
Absolutely fascinating
Whatta mistaka to maka.
Nice injection molded body, but same crappy unreliable engine and transmission. I guess you can live in it when the motor goes tits up a few Kilometers from the dealer.
tha weighta saving asa 20% up to 90 percenta whena the cage rottas and alla the plastic falla offa!
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@@JohnSmith-qq8tx Cheers :)
'Mr Scalari was very disappointed by your attitude. Please go with these men in the black Alfa Romeo... Grazia...'
Well, how useless if the cage tends to rust as hell.
Was this really the inspiration for that awful track by the infernal grunge garbage group, Soundgarden?
Father of Danny Goffey of Supergrass fame. The facial hair must be hereditary.
Looking at the thumbnail.. „so it came with hydraulics from the factory?“
When I saw that prototype, I did initially think it was going to be a story about Lada acquiring the rights to build the Alfa 33!
So.... This is coming?
I'm very excited.
Kinda sad they didn't went trough with it...
126 styling finished in chocolate river brown I present the "Fiat Gloop".
Augustus enjoys being chaufferred by a team of Oompa Loompas, while Mike Teevee takes up residence in the boot.
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Open University.
00:28 Stephen Mangan in the 80s
Well, that didn't work.
It did; the Tipo and Tempra ranges were the direct result of this
The plastic fiat will rust lol
If you look very carefully you can still see it rusting before your eyes.
It's sad that in the 1980's a 20-year service life was considered impressively long. The average car lasts at least 20 years now.
Actually it's the opposite, old cars are still safe and sound today and new ones will probably be all dead after 5-7 years.
@@anacoreta9381 reality does not match your sentimental imagination.
I don't a knowa Real Italiana, I justa speaka de broken De English
Guess what we got he asks rhetorically? I answer -a standard Fiat rust bucket covered in cheap melting plastic during the lightest impact
The result of this was the most rust proof 90s vehicle actually
I can use this video as an alternative to my nightly mug of Horlicks
Have you tried Cyanide?
He spent 3 years on that, BL did that in 3 months, what a great idea deweight it fill it with Italian plastic watch it break up and then buy a better car
@@psynrg gone thankfully just like fiat hopefully will soon
one time FIAT never FIAT
If it was a stilo mk1 it is impossibile to not agree