Or...and hear me out...you walk up to her in the hall and say “hey carol did you get my message?” And she says “that’s not my number” AND ALL OF THIS IS AVOIDED
Nah. His special brand of being a victim wouldn't include being that brave, friendly, or reasonable. His self-righteous anger is all he has for companionship.
Mate if someone dude goes out of his way to rape someone and murder their boyfriend, and believes that they didn't do anything wrong, her telling him "that's not my number" wouldn't have somehow allowed this to be "avoided". Rather, he probably would have just assaulted her right there when she said no
@@thirdworldneet923 Remember "Clock" ? in that episode a girl with Turner's looks like a teenager and has a boyfriend who is labeled a pedophile just because he is with her, at the end of the episode we are meant to agree with Stabler and Benson that she should NEVER enable pedos just because she is desperate to have children before is too late.
All that hatred because he couldn't bother to check his damn facts. A ten-dollar Google search could have pulled it up, but nooo... As a character from Jonathan Kellerman's Alex Delaware novels said, "A legend in his own mind, a loser in real life."
@@daynechastant if a girl doesn't get back to you or shots you down. You move on with your life. The guy was and will always be a criminal- there are no circumstances.
Wrong number... god damn. I feel like you can just see it in his face when he realizes that he's spent all these years hating her and did this whole revenge plot to punish her for wronging him when it actually didn't happen the way he thought.
@Un Topo ciego. She was not obligated to accept his request for a date nor to return his call even if she had received it. Relationships require the mutual consent of both people. If either person says no the other should accept it and move on. She was a victim. She owed him nothing.
The guy was unstable and off his rocker. The recurring theme with these predators is they usually come from a single family household with no strong positive male role model(father figure) to teach them how to conduct themselves like men and gentlemen. The kid's mother was an alcoholic and a lowlife underachiever. Why I am not excusing his sick behavior the kid never had a chance. In this country we glorify single parenthood like it some kind of achievement and we demonize men and fatherhood. In many cases we are creating more men like this through the destruction of the family unit in the U.S. The statistics show that children especially boys usually grow up to be well adjusted and high functional adults when they are raised by their natural loving parents. A real man and true gentlemen values himself first, knows his worth, respects himself and women. He does not believe women owe him anything nor does he take it personal when a woman rejects him. He simply moves on. A true man/gentleman knows his worth, constantly works on himself, and knows when he is ready he will meet and will have relationships with women who appreciate, are attracted to, and value what he brings to the table. This comes through the self esteem and value he gets from being raised by his mom and father. The traits and values he receives comes from good parenting and relationships with other strong, positive, and masculine men. Masculinity is a dirty word these days but a positive masculine and high value man would simply say to himself " her loss or oh well"to a rejection and moved on to the next girl or woman without giving it a second thought. Men's groups,fatherhood, fathers teaching their sons to value themselves, be gentleman, and passing on positive masculine traits was once a right of passage and has now been corrupted by radical feminism and Leftist propaganda who have turned a lot of men into spineless, entitled jellyfish, who are confused and stuck in perpetual adolescence.
The "Stacy and Chad" comment actually showed that he's not a "nice guy", he is an incel. They actually got banned from Reddit because on their subreddit there, they did talk about raping women ect.
I love the look of shock on Benson’s face when it’s revealed he called the wrong number. But like, how do you get so offended at somebody who you’ve never had any face to face contact with for not returning your call? Back in high school? To the point that you let it affect your entire outlook on the world. That’s just sad and quite honestly if anybody has this problem get therapy before you hurt yourself or anybody else. Also, if you for some reason know every little thing about somebody who has no idea who you are, that’s called stalking and you need to re-evaluate yourself and get therapy.
Not really! His along with the accomplices whole point is woman shouldn't deny them in general, that they owe them their bodies! Say he got her number right? If she said no? Look at the lengths he went through when he thought she was ignoring him! He was bound to do this to someone who refused his advances, it just end up being her!
The look here and her look at the guy she was mocking about being raped in prison after she found out he was innocent were the best "Omg" Olivia's expressions
And she’s been in SVU for over two decades and has seen the worst of the worst….but this case and the fact that several women were raped, their partners attacked, and a man was killed all because of some perceived slight back in high school-and worse she was raped and her fiancé killed all because of a wrong number
Kanika Garal this show is garbage Law & Order is a television show dedicated to portraying criminals as the dumbest motherfuckers imaginable. Law and Order has, over the last few decades, built up a rather sizable fan following for itself. The show's popularity can be attributed to two main factors: Creative storylines which poorly mimic real life events Changing cast members more often than a K-Pop band
AnAngry Clown Really you're joking right..the Law and Order series actually focuses on real life events that are happening now, it's not our fault you're too ignorant to look up the positive effects this show has had on real life sexual assault victims and how episodes depicting that have made Sexual Assault survivors come out of hiding and convict their rapists..and how people have made donations to forensic labs across the globe provide funding for backlogged rape kits in american police precincts in all 50 states and countries around the world, and how Mariska and the cast have started the Joyful Heart Foundation that helps sexual assault survivors report their rapes and get the culprit convicted..All the Law & Order series has such a positive impact on current events and how it helps high school graduates to pursue a possible job in forensic sciences.
Wiccan Priestess Yeah well, you have claimed your life what you are but it doesn´t change the fact that you are loud in your rights and entitlements, look at the recent trend of #Metoo So it makes no difference that some of you aren´t like that, it is still in the name Feminism that represents you all..
Even if that was the right number, she didn't need to respond back to him. Because in her perspective, she is getting a message of someone asking her to prom from somebody she's never met before. If you were in her situation, you would most likely not respond.
Just goes to show how self-centred, entitled, and completely oblivious to other’s existences as their own individual people with their own individual lives and circumstances this guy is.
@@ragnablade5397I think the point he's trying to make is that if carol accepted tony's prom proposal, they would go to prom together. But what if tony wanted to date carol after prom and carol said that she was only comfortable going to prom and nothing further. Then tony may react violently. Or what if when carol went to prom with tony,anf tony wanted to sleep with her on prom night, but carol rejected that. Tony might react violently
You're absolutely right. Guys who will go from "Wanna go out?" to rape threats and death threats in the length of time it takes a woman to say "No thanks."
It's not their fault they're like this it's society social media violent video look at isis look at the terrorist are all the same I'm not like these men I am different
this ending was both frightening and hilarious.... knowing that 90 percent of his downward spiral stemmed from him being and idiot and calling the wrong person.
Dude needs to get his act together. Could have worked on his skills and looks, but took the pitiful outlook route. In all seriousness, any dude who thinks they're entitled to having their needs satisfied by women, this dude can be you. In short, be respectful and accept "NO" with grace. Life is too short to be bitter.
Lots of people are incapable of taking 'no' for an answer. It's not like all of them are outcasts, but a substantial number of women are harassed and assaulted by men when they reject them. So no, it's not as farfetched as it seems
Zachary Vargas Oh Tony will get his act together for the next 45 years in Rikers, he's going to find out what it's like to hold his legs over his head and getting bent over.
Frank Rauen Tell me Mr. Ignorant how a woman can sexually assault a man?? O wait she can't women don't have the same equipment as a man..now another can sexually assault another man..wow do me a huge favor and look at the contraption in front of you it's called a computer, there's a search engine on there called GOOGLE, remember Mr. Ignorant use your keywords.
I felt the same way in high school I was rejected I went to classes were kids were treated differently special need you know people saying stuff about me that wasn't true but I would never obsess over a couple of girls who rejected me I would never think of raping them or killing their boyfriends or husbands that's not what I do we grow up from our obsessions but people like this don't
This episode grabbed me by the heart strings, it’s scary to see that there are actual men like him out in the world. Dude like get over it, so what she didn’t noticed you, or go out with you. It wasn’t even her phone number. The only problem here was him, Tony was deeply insecure with himself and needed to feel powerful by raping women. It’s disgusting. Ladies beware of creeps like this.
you know, a prominent Incel named Elliot Rodger was once intent on shooting up a frat house full of women he hated, but was stopped by a locked door, he then knocked on the door with no response, and like that his plan was foiled these people aren't that dangerous, just sad
@@HughJanusDaHorseshoeCrab Elliot Rodger still went on to kill other people. you also forgot alek Minnassian the tornto truck driver killer. He killed more people than Elliot Rodger and more women as well. their was also Chris Harper Mercer who complained about having no girlfriend. he didn't refer to himself as an incel but had similar troubles. He killed 9 women in Oregon university.
@@vice2versa yeah, but these people tend not to be very competent or willful since they are mostly all talk and no bite, they don't go around raping and murdering people, they mostly just say creepy things on the internet, Elliot Rodger's plan involved killing, from what I can remember, don't quote me on this, 30-60 people, he killed 6, two of which were his roommates and one was a roommate's friend sure other people were more successful, but many of them are pretty delusional, and those that aren't are pretty non-violent, they are, however, pretty funny and deserve to be laughed at
Can we all just appreciate Mariska's FLAWLESS interpretation? It's UNBELIEVABLE how truthful each of her reactions, the way she utters every sentence comes out naturally even after 20 years!
@@MrQuaiven I'm not sure how laws differ in different American states from the UK, but to my knowledge a defence lawyer can't defend or represent someone if they know the person's guilty (in the UK it's law that the defence lawyer cannot know a client's guilt until the trial is over and the client is declared guilty or non-guilty). The moment that guy started on his tirade with 'because' when the victim asked why he did it, he immediately confirmed his guilt since he was giving reasons as to why he did it which by default means he did do it. In other words, the defence lawyer probably couldn't do anything from that point since she now knows he's guilty and her hands are tied as she can't defend him.
I respectfully disagree. You are assuming that only traditional masculinity, the concept you say these men don't have, is the only thing that attracts women. This IS a case of toxic masculinity because they feel they can't properly play their gender roles and that fact has made them violent. @Ult_R4nger 94
@Ult_R4nger 94 Again, respectfully, I disagree. As a man, I don't think you know what women want. All women I know don't want what you described and have left relationships when men behave in the way you describe. Women want to be treated like human beings and toxic masculine men don't know how to do that.
God I hate that mentality, that "I am owed something from this person I like" focusing only on what he doesn't have. As someone who has been turned down a number of times I learnt to accept it and move on. Only way to find happiness
The scariest part about all this, is that it likely wouldn't have even mattered if it was the right number. Carol still would have rejected him since the prom proposal was coming from a complete stranger she didn't even know and this all still would have happened. It honestly shocks me how there are legitimate people like this in the world with egos so fragile that they couldn't even take the slightest bit of rejection with grace. Tony's actor perfectly portrayed that in his performance in how self-entitled, self-centered and delusional people like this can be( Ironically admitting his own hypocrisy by believing he deserves a woman's attention just because).
He called the wrong number?! So thats not the girl he was obssessed with.. It was a different girl who probably looked similar to her or he is just straight up delusional
angelica newton No I think that’s the right girl, he just got her number incorrectly. Calls the wrong number, thinks she doesn’t like him, kills boy and rapes her when in the end he just got the number wrong.
I have more the feeling, that the person he asked for number of his Highschool crush just gave him the wrong. Like this person back then realized, that this dude is psycho😦
In a way, I kind of relate to Tony. Granted, I would never do what he did, but I understand what it's like to have a crush on someone but they fall for someone more attractive than you. It still doesn't excuse what he did, but I understand.
lol @the lawyer's expression. she was like, ayayayayyyyy....why did I take thjs case?? also the actress playing carol was gorgeous and good acting. the frustrated outburst at the end was perfect.....
Okay,even if this dude was dealt a bad hand of cards in his life and really was bullied,that doesn't give him the right to hurt a girl who did nothing to him
He wasn’t bullied. This isn’t some nerd getting revenge in his bullies. This is just some lonely loser who believe companionship is the only way to fulfill his life. He believes that he is entitled to have sex provided to him just because he feels like girls deny him every step of the way.
@@francostevo9939 he refuses to put in effort or pay to play. there is some argument that the oldest profession should be heavily regulated with violators getting incredibly heavy jail time such as pimps and sex traffickers
@@toomanyaccounts I’m a guy who will be 30 in 2 years. I have never had a girlfriend ever in my life but I am not upset about that. Living life is living for what gives you gratification; companionship is only like 10 percent of that gratification, it’s not a whole gratification. I will be in a relationship when the opposite right. If a girl has no interest in me than fine. Just walk the other way and just live your life.
I think their are a couple of things wrong with the voice message and phone number. 1- of he truly wanted to ask her to prom, voice mail may not be the best way to do it.2- if he was going to ask her through phone , then he should have doubled checked to make sure it was right.3- he should have called back later or waited until she answered the phone to not only see if she would go to prom but see if she got the messages we’ll . Smh
The thing is, they wouldnt even be alone forever if they'd just stop having such a ridiculous level of entitlement & accept that rejection is a part of life for everyone, not just them. I know this type of guy: they have a special level of entitlement, which causes them to take rejection ridiculously badly, feeling as if they've been denied something that's rightfully theirs, & their rage boils over for years until they become obviously dangerous to women.
@Ty Kravitz of course that's what I was wondering too, basically if you a crazy psychopath a wrong number knowing that it may be leading to someone else you'll only be enDangering some one else's life not your yours if you are not strictly careful of what you are doing in my opinion.
@Ty Kravitz yeah give a Guy that is biologacly stronger then you a No when He thinks He want to Bang you....you need to read a bit more new my Guy ...a simply normal No thank you can mean a Punch in the face or Stalker ....smh
Oh gosh the full chill that just went through me when she said it wasn’t her number. Holy f*ck. This whole time... That voicemail was his trigger... and it wasn’t even sent to her. Edit: I keep replaying that final part and gosh. Her smile before she says it’s not her number. That broken hearted smile that realized just how much could have possibly been avoided if it was just the right number. That smile really hurts and I have to say props to both her and Benson cuz both of their reactions was amazing. Benson’s expression when she realized what Carol just said is basically all of us. Carol dropped the biggest bomb on Tony to break him. This whole time.... years of hate... and she destroys it all with one sentence.
you caught it too? yup which makes me think someone (her friend or his friend) gave him the wrong number to keep her from being a abused victim or worse
@@matthewforsyth284 Men have rights too, this dude is incel because all girls act like they're out of his league ya women have rights but what do they expect when they abuse them and cause another man to suffer all because he's not Chad.
@@47times_official He grew up without a dad to show him how to be a true man and gentlemen and was raised by an alcoholic low achieving dirt-bag mother. This is a recurring theme with these guys being raised by single moms and not having a strong positive male role model to help guide and raise them into becoming real men.Fatherhood and men are being demonized while single parenthood is glorified in the media, tv, and movies like it some sort of achievement when in fact it is anything but. The breakdown in the family unit is breeding men like this. Children especially boys are more likely to grow up to be high self esteem high functional adults when raised by their natural parents. Men used to pass down positive masculine straits and teach other men on how to conduct themselves like gentlemen through fatherhood, men's groups, and positive male friendships and associations. This is now being corrupted by radical feminism and Leftist propaganda. The result is a society of spineless jellyfish men who feel entitled, confused and stuck in perpetual adolescence. Despite the current narrative being pushed women cannot teach men how to be good men. That requires other good men. Becoming a true gentlemen requires strong positive masculine male guidance and association.
Kenneth G Preach! I’m a single mum and completely agree with every word. The breakdown of the family- starting with second wave feminism in the 60s - and the eradication of men, through feminisation, is almost complete
Love seeing Kennedy when she was starting out, now she’s starring in Nancy Drew on the CW and just got a second season! She’s a very talented actress, can’t wait to see her career continue to blossom. But wow, this episode is also just a horrible expose for what people mean when they talk about toxic masculinity and the sense of entitlement some men (and women) have. To ruin someone’s whole life and take away the person they love because you made a mistake? Absolutely the worst case scenario but it’s so common, makes me sick.
Jeez a simple, "hey Carol, you got my message?" in the hallway and all this could've been avoided. Probably would've gotten a simple detention for stalking in high school.
One of the best twists in SVU history recently I was rewatching it with my best friend who had never seen it and we were both saying how as much as we love svu shocking things like this that we DO NOT see coming haven’t happened in years but yeah this was amazing 😯
Her name is Kennedy McMann she's a great actress with range , she played Nancy Drew and now is playing a lawyer with ocd on the good doctor, very good show btw check it out
I’m gonna put my cards on the table because I’m not a liar. I have been rejected plenty of times in my life by women including the girl I asked to my prom but have I ever thought of doing harm to another human because of it? NO! And today I live quite a reclusive lifestyle and suffer from clinical depression, I mean don’t get me wrong I have a lot of friends but I choose to keep myself to myself most of the time as I’m used to being alone. I don’t want or wish harm on anyone for the way my life is. I no things will get better for me when they are meant to if just got to keep fighting.
I'm a believer in things happening for a reason. Whatever doesn't work out, was never meant to be. Waiting is hard, but it definitely beats ending up with someone wrong for you. Keep fighting the good fight. Hope you get your happy ending.
This scene is so well acted and extremely good yet sad. He did what he did all because he believed she never gave him an answer to the prom when that was never her phone number. He murdered a man and raped her all because he felt like he took what belonged to him. And what he did makes him ten times more pathetic, stupid and a monster. Thanks for uploading.
I was very lonely in HS, didn't go to prom, or have a boyfriend. However when I started college I took a brave step, I began therapy. Slowly I put away my hurt & anger. I took care of my body and mind. Lost 40 pounds, styled my hair and slowly realized those people was wrong about me! Everything was wrong with them! I have been wonderfully married for 32 years & have 3 great kids! All college grads and professionals! You gave up pal, I didn't!😊😊😊
Even Benson looks horrified at how utterly pointless his vendetta was. To shock Olivia Benson is quite an achievement
Cause I think everyone in that room fully comprehend how pathetic that guy was including himself
If someone says no to me, I just accept it and that’s final
This episode wanted me to try a frozen hot chocolate. Mostly mixing hot chocolate powder and ice and milk in a blender. Really tasty
@@HenshinHeroesMedia I feel like a bad person for saying I want one as well. Should be like frozen coffee
Ashleigh Tompkins I might try this too
Or...and hear me out...you walk up to her in the hall and say “hey carol did you get my message?” And she says “that’s not my number” AND ALL OF THIS IS AVOIDED
Yeah I agree. would that have been so hard?
Or better yet.. "No?"
Or just ask her out to prom in person😒
Nah. His special brand of being a victim wouldn't include being that brave, friendly, or reasonable. His self-righteous anger is all he has for companionship.
Mate if someone dude goes out of his way to rape someone and murder their boyfriend, and believes that they didn't do anything wrong, her telling him "that's not my number" wouldn't have somehow allowed this to be "avoided". Rather, he probably would have just assaulted her right there when she said no
The man who played Tony the incel is an amazing actor wow
Its BECAUSE HE IS AN INCEL
Agreed, he was excellent.
He was SpongeBob SquarePants in SpongeBob SquarePants the musical
Tony the incel😂
@@-Datboijj- idiot. He’s an actor.. If he made you believe that he’s a real incel, then that just means he’s really good at acting
Why did I get chills when she said that wasn’t my number smh
Svu gets the job done every time! My show!
Bc the writers knew that dumb people would like this bc it makes the woman look as a víctim instead of the one who rejects the guy
Me and my sister watch it all the time good show you know
I was shocked it was the plot twist i never expected. I felt bad for her even when i didnt know about this. But after this i just died a little
It's just sad that some people are heartless sometimes you know
@@thirdworldneet923 Remember "Clock" ? in that episode a girl with Turner's looks like a teenager and has a boyfriend who is labeled a pedophile just because he is with her, at the end of the episode we are meant to agree with Stabler and Benson that she should NEVER enable pedos just because she is desperate to have children before is too late.
What’s crazy is even if it was the right number she wasn’t obligated to do anything smh
Yeah, guys like that are just utter freaks. Ego monsters that think they're owed something from people they don't even really know.
The Green Pill Mindset loser
On Reddit, we call them Incels and nice guys.
Clear Casket yeah I think that’s what episode was based on, not sure if they actually mentioned those names
What ep is this,would like to watch it from the begining.sounds like he was just a ugly arrogant self entitled criminal.
She literally made him feel all the guilt in the world in one sentence.
Love is fake
That broke me
Wdym he never felt guilt in the scene
Somehow, I don't think a man like him is *capable* of feeling guilt.
@@savagetv6460 no it’s not
Damn she said “that was never my phone number” yooo that moment when your whole life was a lie
He finally realised how pathetic he is once those words came out
@@clearshade3560 to be honest he ruined his life long before he killed her husband and raped her
@@clearshade3560 he would just repeat similar crimes if they let him out he is a narcassist they think they are entitled to women
And that was the moment he crapped his pants!
He was so desperate to the point where he became dangerous yet dumb.
It wasn't even her number?!!!. My heart just went out to her.
So you're heart wasn't out to her before finding that out? Just curious. I mean she was raped and her husband was killed.
The second best plot twist
After last years incest episode with the piano teacher
So... If it wasnt her # then... Who's # was it????
All that hatred because he couldn't bother to check his damn facts. A ten-dollar Google search could have pulled it up, but nooo...
As a character from Jonathan Kellerman's Alex Delaware novels said, "A legend in his own mind, a loser in real life."
@@daynechastant if a girl doesn't get back to you or shots you down. You move on with your life.
The guy was and will always be a criminal- there are no circumstances.
Wrong number... god damn. I feel like you can just see it in his face when he realizes that he's spent all these years hating her and did this whole revenge plot to punish her for wronging him when it actually didn't happen the way he thought.
The script was Made like that just yo make her look as a víctim and not as a Stacy who rejects men. Obviously in defense of this woman
@@thirdworldneet923 what is the woman guilty of, to need a defense? What If it were her number and she did not reply?
@Un Topo ciego. She was not obligated to accept his request for a date nor to return his call even if she had received it. Relationships require the mutual consent of both people. If either person says no the other should accept it and move on. She was a victim. She owed him nothing.
Un Topo ciego oh you’re one of them 😳
@@thirdworldneet923 found the incel
This is the kind of self-proclaimed "Nice Guy" who think women owe them love and sex, turned up to eleven.
There’s nice girls too and there pretty bad
@@connorbestbarlow1043 no one's denying that, but its in this specific situation that Mira Lang is talking about.
The guy was unstable and off his rocker. The recurring theme with these predators is they usually come from a single family household with no strong positive male role model(father figure) to teach them how to conduct themselves like men and gentlemen. The kid's mother was an alcoholic and a lowlife underachiever. Why I am not excusing his sick behavior the kid never had a chance. In this country we glorify single parenthood like it some kind of achievement and we demonize men and fatherhood. In many cases we are creating more men like this through the destruction of the family unit in the U.S. The statistics show that children especially boys usually grow up to be well adjusted and high functional adults when they are raised by their natural loving parents. A real man and true gentlemen values himself first, knows his worth, respects himself and women. He does not believe women owe him anything nor does he take it personal when a woman rejects him. He simply moves on. A true man/gentleman knows his worth, constantly works on himself, and knows when he is ready he will meet and will have relationships with women who appreciate, are attracted to, and value what he brings to the table. This comes through the self esteem and value he gets from being raised by his mom and father. The traits and values he receives comes from good parenting and relationships with other strong, positive, and masculine men. Masculinity is a dirty word these days but a positive masculine and high value man would simply say to himself " her loss or oh well"to a rejection and moved on to the next girl or woman without giving it a second thought. Men's groups,fatherhood, fathers teaching their sons to value themselves, be gentleman, and passing on positive masculine traits was once a right of passage and has now been corrupted by radical feminism and Leftist propaganda who have turned a lot of men into spineless, entitled jellyfish, who are confused and stuck in perpetual adolescence.
The "Stacy and Chad" comment actually showed that he's not a "nice guy", he is an incel. They actually got banned from Reddit because on their subreddit there, they did talk about raping women ect.
@@kennethg5460 or quite simply this is an exaggerated fictional character purely for our entertainment and not worth wasting our time analysing
I love the look of shock on Benson’s face when it’s revealed he called the wrong number. But like, how do you get so offended at somebody who you’ve never had any face to face contact with for not returning your call? Back in high school? To the point that you let it affect your entire outlook on the world. That’s just sad and quite honestly if anybody has this problem get therapy before you hurt yourself or anybody else. Also, if you for some reason know every little thing about somebody who has no idea who you are, that’s called stalking and you need to re-evaluate yourself and get therapy.
Never got the voicemail! Called the wrong number! All this trauma 4 nothing.
Not really! His along with the accomplices whole point is woman shouldn't deny them in general, that they owe them their bodies! Say he got her number right? If she said no? Look at the lengths he went through when he thought she was ignoring him! He was bound to do this to someone who refused his advances, it just end up being her!
@@vanessaives5546 This!!
Poor woman’s life ruined for nothing. And Benson’s reaction says it all.
Ikr he deserves a death penalty
His life is ruined as well, and he did to himself
The look here and her look at the guy she was mocking about being raped in prison after she found out he was innocent were the best "Omg" Olivia's expressions
@@Chuck_EL what episode?
Even if she did reject him, she and her boyfriend would still not deserve what he did to them.
There are fragile egos out there that share this mentality 🤮
2aucey & it definitely needs to be much more acknowledged
Honestly, incels are hyper violent and hyper egotistical
But we need someone with good looks like a chad Gaston to run a mob and slay the incel beasts
@@ToonCatTV Just so Chad can win again? Incels speak the truth.
MAN!!
47 Times That is not what I meant
The sheer look of horror on Benson’s face
Dwl yes
Shutup stacy
Jay D found the incel
I think it’s quite the achievement to shock benson like that
And she’s been in SVU for over two decades and has seen the worst of the worst….but this case and the fact that several women were raped, their partners attacked, and a man was killed all because of some perceived slight back in high school-and worse she was raped and her fiancé killed all because of a wrong number
This episode was very intense. It's so scary how one slight can drive a person to the edge. SVU keeps getting better.
Christopher Lewis May the series last forever
This show has been great always. They always touch the current incidents. Take for example the very first episode. They showed school shooting
Kanika Garal this show is garbage Law & Order is a television show dedicated to portraying criminals as the dumbest motherfuckers imaginable. Law and Order has, over the last few decades, built up a rather sizable fan following for itself. The show's popularity can be attributed to two main factors:
Creative storylines which poorly mimic real life events
Changing cast members more often than a K-Pop band
AnAngry Clown Really you're joking right..the Law and Order series actually focuses on real life events that are happening now, it's not our fault you're too ignorant to look up the positive effects this show has had on real life sexual assault victims and how episodes depicting that have made Sexual Assault survivors come out of hiding and convict their rapists..and how people have made donations to forensic labs across the globe provide funding for backlogged rape kits in american police precincts in all 50 states and countries around the world, and how Mariska and the cast have started the Joyful Heart Foundation that helps sexual assault survivors report their rapes and get the culprit convicted..All the Law & Order series has such a positive impact on current events and how it helps high school graduates to pursue a possible job in forensic sciences.
Wiccan Priestess Yeah well, you have claimed your life what you are but it doesn´t change the fact that you are loud in your rights and entitlements, look at the recent trend of #Metoo
So it makes no difference that some of you aren´t like that, it is still in the name Feminism that represents you all..
Even if that was the right number, she didn't need to respond back to him. Because in her perspective, she is getting a message of someone asking her to prom from somebody she's never met before. If you were in her situation, you would most likely not respond.
Exactly, who the hell is gonna accept a proposal from a person you can't put a face to anyway?
Just goes to show how self-centred, entitled, and completely oblivious to other’s existences as their own individual people with their own individual lives and circumstances this guy is.
@@cecejamesable even if she did dude would of eventually killed her or been very abusive
@@Chuck_EL he is bad because he is alone, not the otherwise
@@ragnablade5397I think the point he's trying to make is that if carol accepted tony's prom proposal, they would go to prom together.
But what if tony wanted to date carol after prom and carol said that she was only comfortable going to prom and nothing further. Then tony may react violently.
Or what if when carol went to prom with tony,anf tony wanted to sleep with her on prom night, but carol rejected that. Tony might react violently
when she said “because that was never my phone number” i got sooooo many chills down my spine
You too? Lol
Sad thing is there are men out there like him and they are terrifying
You're absolutely right. Guys who will go from "Wanna go out?" to rape threats and death threats in the length of time it takes a woman to say "No thanks."
Ya just means they shouldn't be in relationships,better off being on their own.
It's not their fault they're like this it's society social media violent video look at isis look at the terrorist are all the same I'm not like these men I am different
It'd be interesting to know what goes on in their minds.
Gipsies have a curse:May you fall in love!!!!.
SIKE
DATS THE WRONG NUMBER
BRUH IM DEAD
OHHHHHH! OHHHHHHH!
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The number you called could not be completed as dialed please check the number and call back later 💀
this ending was both frightening and hilarious....
knowing that 90 percent of his downward spiral stemmed from him being and idiot and calling the wrong person.
This episode was one hell of a plot twist after another!
I actually laughed when she said he called someone else, this all started bc he called THE WRONG NUMBER!!😂😂😂 I know he was shook
Even if he called Carol's number, she would've rejected him, so no difference
These bad guy breakdowns are always so satisfying to watch. They just let it all out!
Law & Order's got them down to an art form I'd say.
IKR?!
Dude needs to get his act together. Could have worked on his skills and looks, but took the pitiful outlook route. In all seriousness, any dude who thinks they're entitled to having their needs satisfied by women, this dude can be you. In short, be respectful and accept "NO" with grace. Life is too short to be bitter.
Zachary Vargas and that’s real ☕️ 💯
Lots of people are incapable of taking 'no' for an answer. It's not like all of them are outcasts, but a substantial number of women are harassed and assaulted by men when they reject them. So no, it's not as farfetched as it seems
Zachary Vargas and now he is rotting in hell (prison)..and when he dies he will be going to the real hell beneath earth.
Zachary Vargas Oh Tony will get his act together for the next 45 years in Rikers, he's going to find out what it's like to hold his legs over his head and getting bent over.
Frank Rauen Tell me Mr. Ignorant how a woman can sexually assault a man?? O wait she can't women don't have the same equipment as a man..now another can sexually assault another man..wow do me a huge favor and look at the contraption in front of you it's called a computer, there's a search engine on there called GOOGLE, remember Mr. Ignorant use your keywords.
There are plenty of people who aren't supermodels who managed to find love.
Jenn Terry right?!?
Nobody argued against that??
@@issy02tubez in the video the guy implies that he can't find love bc he lost the genetic lottery.
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I felt the same way in high school I was rejected I went to classes were kids were treated differently special need you know people saying stuff about me that wasn't true but I would never obsess over a couple of girls who rejected me I would never think of raping them or killing their boyfriends or husbands that's not what I do we grow up from our obsessions but people like this don't
This episode grabbed me by the heart strings, it’s scary to see that there are actual men like him out in the world. Dude like get over it, so what she didn’t noticed you, or go out with you. It wasn’t even her phone number.
The only problem here was him, Tony was deeply insecure with himself and needed to feel powerful by raping women.
It’s disgusting.
Ladies beware of creeps like this.
No I understand the point of the episode J, I get it and I agree with what you said 👍🏾
you know, a prominent Incel named Elliot Rodger was once intent on shooting up a frat house full of women he hated, but was stopped by a locked door, he then knocked on the door with no response, and like that his plan was foiled these people aren't that dangerous, just sad
@@HughJanusDaHorseshoeCrab Elliot Rodger still went on to kill other people. you also forgot alek Minnassian the tornto truck driver killer. He killed more people than Elliot Rodger and more women as well. their was also Chris Harper Mercer who complained about having no girlfriend. he didn't refer to himself as an incel but had similar troubles. He killed 9 women in Oregon university.
@@vice2versa yeah, but these people tend not to be very competent or willful since they are mostly all talk and no bite, they don't go around raping and murdering people, they mostly just say creepy things on the internet, Elliot Rodger's plan involved killing, from what I can remember, don't quote me on this, 30-60 people, he killed 6, two of which were his roommates and one was a roommate's friend sure other people were more successful, but many of them are pretty delusional, and those that aren't are pretty non-violent, they are, however, pretty funny and deserve to be laughed at
no fuckyou but they still killed people. Some are still dangerous. Having a couple examples is already too many.
so, since he doesn't have a problem with taking what he thinks is "his", he can't get mad when 'Big Bubba' does the same thing to him.
Logically, you're right, but people like this never use logic or common sense. It's anathema to them.
That defense attorney was like, "I'm so gonna lose this case."
yeah as soon as he said "i took what was mine" her reaction was like "i'm not going to even try to defend this".
Can we all just appreciate Mariska's FLAWLESS interpretation? It's UNBELIEVABLE how truthful each of her reactions, the way she utters every sentence comes out naturally even after 20 years!
Law & Order SVU is one of the best shows to clarify both good and evil so realistically. 👍🏻
This is the kind of show That never disappoints me!
Theodore Horner I agree!
But I wish they brought back Barba.
Feminism is cancer
Me to
Elizabeth Nunez you’re an idiot then
Worst defense lawyer ever.
OMG GMO Not really. He almost did get away with it
Yea but really all she had to do there was tell him to shut up. Repeatedly. Maybe reminded him a few times that he was convicting himself by talking.
+OMG GMO yeah but it was too little, too late far enough too late wasn't it?, huh?.
@@MrQuaiven I'm not sure how laws differ in different American states from the UK, but to my knowledge a defence lawyer can't defend or represent someone if they know the person's guilty (in the UK it's law that the defence lawyer cannot know a client's guilt until the trial is over and the client is declared guilty or non-guilty).
The moment that guy started on his tirade with 'because' when the victim asked why he did it, he immediately confirmed his guilt since he was giving reasons as to why he did it which by default means he did do it. In other words, the defence lawyer probably couldn't do anything from that point since she now knows he's guilty and her hands are tied as she can't defend him.
OMG GMO glad he didn’t though.
The acting in this episode was ON POINT.
That boy was so sure he had all his info correct lmao!!
He failed even in stalking
I love how the defense attorney is like:
-I'll let him talk i have to respect his wishes
And THIS is just one of many reasons why this show is in its TWENTIETH SEASON!! Thank you, @Law & Order: Special Victims Unit, and thank you NBC!!
This episode showed very good examples of toxic masculinity.
Ladi Smith doesn’t exist.
John Petrinolis that's not to say masculinity is toxic. I don't think you understand the term I'm afraid.
Ladi Smith I’m just sick of the term getting shoved in my face so often. Guess I just got a little triggered.
I respectfully disagree. You are assuming that only traditional masculinity, the concept you say these men don't have, is the only thing that attracts women. This IS a case of toxic masculinity because they feel they can't properly play their gender roles and that fact has made them violent. @Ult_R4nger 94
@Ult_R4nger 94 Again, respectfully, I disagree. As a man, I don't think you know what women want. All women I know don't want what you described and have left relationships when men behave in the way you describe. Women want to be treated like human beings and toxic masculine men don't know how to do that.
Law and order always has good actors and we'll written intense dialogue
Noosey 💯% agree
Defense Attourney: We should talk.
Stone: Sure. Which Supermax do you want him sent to? Call my office with your list. Worst One's first.
God I hate that mentality, that "I am owed something from this person I like" focusing only on what he doesn't have. As someone who has been turned down a number of times I learnt to accept it and move on. Only way to find happiness
The scariest part about all this, is that it likely wouldn't have even mattered if it was the right number. Carol still would have rejected him since the prom proposal was coming from a complete stranger she didn't even know and this all still would have happened.
It honestly shocks me how there are legitimate people like this in the world with egos so fragile that they couldn't even take the slightest bit of rejection with grace. Tony's actor perfectly portrayed that in his performance in how self-entitled, self-centered and delusional people like this can be( Ironically admitting his own hypocrisy by believing he deserves a woman's attention just because).
She wouldn't have rejected him if he had a strong jaw and was 6'4
This is an example of why I’m not petty anymore. Most people forgive, forget, and move on. He was hung up on bs in high school.
The smugness and entitlement of that guy is astoundingly sickening. I feel so sorry for the woman who lost her husband because of that guy
LOL “That’s not what YOUR MOM said, Tony…” 💀💀
Damn.....when is his useless lawyer going to tell him to stfu? Dude's tongue just dug his grave.
For some reason they never do
In the clip I thought I heard his lawyer tell him he didn’t have to answer any questions
She did tell him to shut up. He ignored her because he was so triggered.
That's..an interesting image
I always hated criminal attorneys in Law & Order.
It was almost like a watched a whole episode,you took what was probably the best part of the show,thank you so much for uploading it.:)
The actress Kennedy McMann who played Carol in this episode, plays the title role in the CW's Nancy Drew
The actor definitely watched E.R. manifesto to prepare for the role 👏
Just realized I went to middle school with the actor that plays tony
Serenity63092 hope you didn’t miss his voicemail
@@concepcion1117 facts bruh
Dude, you went to school with Spongebob, from "Spongebob: The Musical".
2:20 "What losers?" AIN'T NO WAY HE SAID THAT I'M ON THE FLOOR
I nearly spat all the tea when I heard him say that he’s a jerk 😂😂😂
High school mating values brought back up. Leave it to the jock who became a lawyer to bring it up so succinctly.
Still one of my favorite shows, they pull it off so perfectly each time
There are many times like this where I just love it when criminals start to sing like a lovestruck canary
he said she wasnt entittled to anything but he was that was so scary
He called the wrong number?! So thats not the girl he was obssessed with.. It was a different girl who probably looked similar to her or he is just straight up delusional
angelica newton No I think that’s the right girl, he just got her number incorrectly. Calls the wrong number, thinks she doesn’t like him, kills boy and rapes her when in the end he just got the number wrong.
I have more the feeling, that the person he asked for number of his Highschool crush just gave him the wrong.
Like this person back then realized, that this dude is psycho😦
@@nicolepenkwit6530 I didn’t think about that
In a way, I kind of relate to Tony. Granted, I would never do what he did, but I understand what it's like to have a crush on someone but they fall for someone more attractive than you. It still doesn't excuse what he did, but I understand.
I like the vintage law and order shaky camera movement
Lmaoo it’s makes it little funny
lol @the lawyer's expression. she was like, ayayayayyyyy....why did I take thjs case??
also the actress playing carol was gorgeous and good acting. the frustrated outburst at the end was perfect.....
Me to the defense attorney
“There’s nothing to talk about”
The ending felt like a Tales From The Crypt episode where the twist is tragic a innocent person gets killed for no reason.
Okay,even if this dude was dealt a bad hand of cards in his life and really was bullied,that doesn't give him the right to hurt a girl who did nothing to him
He wasn’t bullied. This isn’t some nerd getting revenge in his bullies. This is just some lonely loser who believe companionship is the only way to fulfill his life. He believes that he is entitled to have sex provided to him just because he feels like girls deny him every step of the way.
@@francostevo9939 he refuses to put in effort or pay to play. there is some argument that the oldest profession should be heavily regulated with violators getting incredibly heavy jail time such as pimps and sex traffickers
@@toomanyaccounts I’m a guy who will be 30 in 2 years. I have never had a girlfriend ever in my life but I am not upset about that. Living life is living for what gives you gratification; companionship is only like 10 percent of that gratification, it’s not a whole gratification. I will be in a relationship when the opposite right. If a girl has no interest in me than fine. Just walk the other way and just live your life.
I think their are a couple of things wrong with the voice message and phone number. 1- of he truly wanted to ask her to prom, voice mail may not be the best way to do it.2- if he was going to ask her through phone , then he should have doubled checked to make sure it was right.3- he should have called back later or waited until she answered the phone to not only see if she would go to prom but see if she got the messages we’ll . Smh
Is it any wonder this show is still going after all these years? Quality television viewing.
Just powerful acting...wow. but not surprised. This show sets the bar high for dramatic performances
Guys like this need to accept that they're going to be alone, and just make the best of it. It sucks, but there are other things in life.
The thing is, they wouldnt even be alone forever if they'd just stop having such a ridiculous level of entitlement & accept that rejection is a part of life for everyone, not just them. I know this type of guy: they have a special level of entitlement, which causes them to take rejection ridiculously badly, feeling as if they've been denied something that's rightfully theirs, & their rage boils over for years until they become obviously dangerous to women.
Olivia is the queen of "surprise" face.
I know I shouldn't laugh but when she said that wasn't her number I lost it, dude became an incel over a bad phone call
Truly people can be so pathetic and mentally unbalanced.
Patronus88 thank you.
+Ty Kravitz that was exactly the same thing I was thinking too.
@Ty Kravitz of course that's what I was wondering too, basically if you a crazy psychopath a wrong number knowing that it may be leading to someone else you'll only be enDangering some one else's life not your yours if you are not strictly careful of what you are doing in my opinion.
@Ty Kravitz yeah give a Guy that is biologacly stronger then you a No when He thinks He want to Bang you....you need to read a bit more new my Guy ...a simply normal No thank you can mean a Punch in the face or Stalker ....smh
@Ty Kravitz He was a stalker. He never asked her phone number directly
Oh gosh the full chill that just went through me when she said it wasn’t her number. Holy f*ck. This whole time... That voicemail was his trigger... and it wasn’t even sent to her.
Edit: I keep replaying that final part and gosh. Her smile before she says it’s not her number. That broken hearted smile that realized just how much could have possibly been avoided if it was just the right number. That smile really hurts and I have to say props to both her and Benson cuz both of their reactions was amazing. Benson’s expression when she realized what Carol just said is basically all of us.
Carol dropped the biggest bomb on Tony to break him. This whole time.... years of hate... and she destroys it all with one sentence.
you caught it too? yup which makes me think someone (her friend or his friend) gave him the wrong number to keep her from being a abused victim or worse
the acting in this scene from carol and the incel guy. ooh so good
She was way out of his league like c'mon dude
C you know what yeah cuz he’s a sexist criminal who doesn’t realize that women have rights to you know!
@@matthewforsyth284 Men have rights too, this dude is incel because all girls act like they're out of his league ya women have rights but what do they expect when they abuse them and cause another man to suffer all because he's not Chad.
@@47times_official rape will never ever ,in any way be justifiable
@@47times_official He grew up without a dad to show him how to be a true man and gentlemen and was raised by an alcoholic low achieving dirt-bag mother. This is a recurring theme with these guys being raised by single moms and not having a strong positive male role model to help guide and raise them into becoming real men.Fatherhood and men are being demonized while single parenthood is glorified in the media, tv, and movies like it some sort of achievement when in fact it is anything but. The breakdown in the family unit is breeding men like this. Children especially boys are more likely to grow up to be high self esteem high functional adults when raised by their natural parents. Men used to pass down positive masculine straits and teach other men on how to conduct themselves like gentlemen through fatherhood, men's groups, and positive male friendships and associations. This is now being corrupted by radical feminism and Leftist propaganda. The result is a society of spineless jellyfish men who feel entitled, confused and stuck in perpetual adolescence. Despite the current narrative being pushed women cannot teach men how to be good men. That requires other good men. Becoming a true gentlemen requires strong positive masculine male guidance and association.
Kenneth G Preach! I’m a single mum and completely agree with every word. The breakdown of the family- starting with second wave feminism in the 60s - and the eradication of men, through feminisation, is almost complete
THAT WASNT HER PHONE NUMBER?!?!! 😱😱😱 IM SHOOK!!
Robert's rebellion ......was based on a lie?!?!
this still hurts.
Love seeing Kennedy when she was starting out, now she’s starring in Nancy Drew on the CW and just got a second season! She’s a very talented actress, can’t wait to see her career continue to blossom.
But wow, this episode is also just a horrible expose for what people mean when they talk about toxic masculinity and the sense of entitlement some men (and women) have. To ruin someone’s whole life and take away the person they love because you made a mistake? Absolutely the worst case scenario but it’s so common, makes me sick.
Jeez a simple, "hey Carol, you got my message?" in the hallway and all this could've been avoided. Probably would've gotten a simple detention for stalking in high school.
The guy playing Tony is a good actor.
@Anti-Incel MOAB Well of course, it's just a movie.
4:35 the look on Benson's face says that all
Plot twist 🤗😱
The actor did an amazing job
It’s probably just as well that she didn’t give him her number; now she sees what the wolf looks like without the sheep’s clothing disguise. 😬
Nice defense attorney work there lady.
One of the best twists in SVU history recently I was rewatching it with my best friend who had never seen it and we were both saying how as much as we love svu shocking things like this that we DO NOT see coming haven’t happened in years but yeah this was amazing 😯
Carol's acting was awesome.
Her name is Kennedy McMann she's a great actress with range , she played Nancy Drew and now is playing a lawyer with ocd on the good doctor, very good show btw check it out
At 4:18 , I had the same reaction like Olivia! SVU is deep
I’m gonna put my cards on the table because I’m not a liar. I have been rejected plenty of times in my life by women including the girl I asked to my prom but have I ever thought of doing harm to another human because of it? NO! And today I live quite a reclusive lifestyle and suffer from clinical depression, I mean don’t get me wrong I have a lot of friends but I choose to keep myself to myself most of the time as I’m used to being alone. I don’t want or wish harm on anyone for the way my life is. I no things will get better for me when they are meant to if just got to keep fighting.
I'm a believer in things happening for a reason. Whatever doesn't work out, was never meant to be. Waiting is hard, but it definitely beats ending up with someone wrong for you. Keep fighting the good fight. Hope you get your happy ending.
wxclim8 thanks a lot mate!
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It’s always the “nice guy”
Good twist at the, "that wasn't number!"
This scene is so well acted and extremely good yet sad. He did what he did all because he believed she never gave him an answer to the prom when that was never her phone number. He murdered a man and raped her all because he felt like he took what belonged to him. And what he did makes him ten times more pathetic, stupid and a monster. Thanks for uploading.
Guess he'll learn his lesson in the prison showers.
Always ripped from the headlines!
There goes her perfect client 😅
When Tony started talking, it almost sounded like a slam poem
I was very lonely in HS, didn't go to prom, or have a boyfriend. However when I started college I took a brave step, I began therapy. Slowly I put away my hurt & anger. I took care of my body and mind. Lost 40 pounds, styled my hair and slowly realized those people was wrong about me! Everything was wrong with them! I have been wonderfully married for 32 years & have 3 great kids! All college grads and professionals! You gave up pal, I didn't!😊😊😊
Yeah cause it’s sooooooo hard for women to get a bf. Facepalm. Just stfu!
Stone: "What, losers?" lol
lmao like a true “Chad” 😂😂😂
One of the best Episodes!!!! Actors were Awesome 👏 bravo
CHAD AND STACY
WINNERS OF THE GENETIC LOTTERY
4:31 - If only Fin was there to say, "Your client won't be smiling when he's on the receiving end in prison."
Love Fins one liners
I cried when I saw this, it was a pretty downer ending. The good guy almost got away but his trauma got to him in the end....R.I.P homie.
The dude is not the "good guy"
This is like the most boomer thing I’ve ever seen 😂
The comments are even worse lol
This was a very intense scene. And the ending was just 🤭🤭🤭