To start with people didn’t believe her accusations. At the end of the day, they are sisters, not biologically and Maxine and Lizzie see each other as siblings. They’ve both had similar experiences and that’s brought them closer
It's a mix of genuine issues and feelings some teenage boys go through. Insecurity, feeling like you don't matter, that you are dirt. Then Eric took advantage of Mason's problems
@@sarahyeates Exactly! Idk though but I still kinda think that Ella and Mason could be good together as a couple and the same with Charlie and Leah and DeMarcus and Vicky. I really hope Mason’ll get help soon for himself at least. What do you think?????
I'm hoping he will come out of his brainwash and start to rebuild his life starting with building his families trust again, but he has a lot of anger and resentment in him so i think he is gonna be a proper major problem before gets any better, and luckily he is still young therefore easier to reverse the brain washing he endured from Eric
Why are people feeling sorry for Mason he hasn’t learned his lesson at all and still sees himself as the victim in all of this. Mason isn’t the victim here the people him and Eric hurt are. Over the past year he framed Charlie for leaking Ella’s nude photos, sent abusive message to Demarcus including telling him to unalive himself, posted pictures of Leah online, and kept quiet about Eric being the spiker. This is the first time after a year he’s seeing the consequences of his actions. He’s mad he’s having to finally face consequences. Let’s not forget that Charlie was Eric’s first target in all of this and after 1 instant Charlie faced consequences and learned his lesson and changed his ways. Mason on the other hand keeps trying to center himself as the victim when really he was enjoying the power he felt when he was terrorizing everyone else
Because people are allowed to feel sorry for Mason, he's a child and got manipulated at his most vulnerable however he still did bad things and needs serious counseling and anger management classes cuz he clearly can't control his emotions, he's lashing out at people
Darlene Mcclain OA I was hoping Honour could probably help him but now I think he needs a better therapist. Hopefully he’ll get help soon. What do you think????? 🤔
No I feel like Dave's the one that's kind of babying him, Honour said that he needs help so she'll probably refer him to counseling and anger management classes or something
@@ChelseyLinden help, how about actually taking accountability for his actions. Him saying sorry doesn't wash because anyone can say sorry they actually have to prove it and his anger and still playing the blame game proves he is still playing victim
@@sarahyeates I heard she finds out that Mason goes to visit Eric but she goes to visit him instead. I really hope she’ll do something to help her Son. What do you think think????? 🤔
@@grantmcroberts4089 leave Chelsey alone, we are all sick and tired of your negativity, we're allowed to feel sorry for Mason cuz he was brainwashed by Eric and wouldn't have done those horrible things if it wasn't for him so stay the hell away from us
Yeah that will fix it, yell at him some more and continue to isolate him further. Funny how Charlie was never arrested for his assault on Mason. Dave is babying him but they need to stop being agro at him otherwise he's just gonna continue to get worse. Tough love is not the right answer
No he needs a bit of tough love to make him more aware of right and wrong cuz clearly he can't even tell the difference anymore but that isn't tough love, that's straight up provoking him
@sarahyeates He is a victim of bullying, racism, and grooming. Like a wounded animal you can't take an aggressive approach like you said, it's provoking him. Tough love isn't gonna work in this situation. He needs a gentler approach that isn't coddling him or gratifying him as blameless for his actions.
What is Dave's problem as a parent you want to protect your children tho not when they're disrespecting to your wife.Mason has called Honour a bitch right in front him.Now he ignores her when she wants to talk to him.Dave needs to step up tell Mason this behaviour is not acceptable and he needs to respect his mum.Mason needs to go to jail and get help.
jwsm2 I agree about Dave he really also needs to to focus on trying to get him help and Mason doesn’t need jail he needs major counseling and anger management classes.
It is a bit awkward because technically Mason is a victim of manipulation and brainwashing but at the same time, he needs help in seeing that it's wrong what he's done. It's easy to see both sides when you're not involved but hard to see it when you are in that circumstance.
So far it seems the “solution” is to gang up on Mason, wind him up, and act surprised that he’s lashing out when it’s pretty clear anyone in his position (thinking their entire family is against them). Mason should be handled with care. His older sisters should maybe try to give him positive experiences with women (like hanging out with them). He’ll learn on his own. But also, he’s somewhat right. He is a victim. He was groomed by Eric. The fact that none of the adults seem to recognize this and all act/treat him like he was the one filling Eric’s head with lies and not the other way around is insane. Mason’s actions toward Ella and Lela were wrong. We can all agree on that. But how he’s being treated now is just going to push him further away and make everything worse. It’s a shame his therapist mother can’t even see that.
Yeah that's why I think he needs a different therapist and maybe some anger management too just in case cuz you can see that he can easily get frustrated and lash out every time someone says something
Of course it's up to the woman to forgive and forget. Heaven forbid they put their feelings first when a man's involved. Of course they realise he's been groomed but their anger understandable and they are Trying to help Mason see he is a victim of grooming not of girls which is hard as he refuses to admit he's in the wrong.
@@qadidja I think at this moment in time he sees himself a victim because the girls don't like him rather than grooming. That's what's wrong definitely needs a wake up call to realise he's a victim of grooming not women
Oh my poor Mason I feel so sorry for him I know a lot of you are still giving him anger in all of this (I know he’s just a fictional character but still this happens irl) I just wish he’d get help and I think Honour really should try harder to find a way to help him or maybe find a different counselor or something. I even loved that scene with Maxine talking to Mason cause I know she’s the main victim in all of this this and she really cares about him, I think she can probably help him see sense I just wish he’d let her. 😔
@@DEAN_23 OA I don’t blame you even though I never studied about him in school or anything I still don’t like Elliot Rodger. I know Angus isn’t like irl just like I know that Peter Reckell isn’t anything like Dhamer. Mason really needs to get help.
The Girl next to Hounor is Shing Lin their cousin whos been staying with them since last year in December. Serena Left the village a couple of weeks ago due to masons ivolvement in the siege
Dave needs to wake up and realise what mason did was wrong and the fact that Mason hasn't acknowledged what he has done shows he is not remorseful for his actions.
Well he was remorseful, he was willing to go to the police but Dave said 'no' I mean let's face it, Dave hasn't exactly been the best parent since he arrived to the village
@@ChelseyLinden Dave really annoys me instead of facing up to the things manson did and making him face up to what he did he just makes excuses for what him.
@@natashasherman4458 he's a victim under Eric's influence but not under women's influence and anyway I think he's saying all these things out of anger cuz he feels like his family's ganging up on him, they clearly can't fix this themselves as a family, they need to get Mason into counseling or something
OA also I don’t know what it is but these clips that involve Teenagers this doesn’t seem like Hollyoaks it’s seems more like between 13RW and Degrassi.
Oh Mason, you just don't get it.... There's no way you can get girls, unless you place yourself in a situation where girls can be got - is it that hard?....
Nah he's just socially awkward and a weirdo and Eric knew that about him from the jump that's why it was so easy for him to manipulate him because Mason is just like him deep down. All what Eric did was unveil what was already there, the reality is, Mason has been a weirdo his entire life and that's why people are cautious of him as they should.
@@DEAN_23 yeah you can, that's why I think Mason is redeemable but he needs several types of help like counseling, anger management classes and stuff like that
no sympathy for Mason. he’s only an outcast because he made himself one with his actions. three of his sisters were held captive and nearly died and he still won’t change.
That title instantly made me think of that scene when Lib was saying to Sienna, look at the person you have turned into. Lib saying it as Summer and Sienna sleeping together is a bad thing, bur actually that is a proper glow up for Sienna😝The only person I want Summer to get through to while she is making phones on Hollyoaks prison phone line is Sienna Blake😉Haha but looks like Summer managed to sneak some form of a phone to her prison cell as she had texted Sienna saying she needed to see her😆May Summer Ranger return back onto our screens and marry Sienna please❤Team Summer and Sienna💞Team Simmer💍
Wolverine169 logan OA there are some Males who aren’t that evil some of them are victims and Females intend to hurt them as well. Take Donna-Marie for example when she used to be a prostitute and a drug addict she raped James and ended up pregnant with his Son Romeo.
Eric should be looked up for what he done not Mason he is was roossbllty from your actions you have casqes Maxine is right I am with Maxine side here and her Spach
The acting, writing and directing has nosedived in the last decade. Watch an episode from say 2012, or even 2010 or 2008--it feels like a totally different higher quality programme. Now, it's like one of those meta public health awareness dramas they mock up to show to students in school health/sex education classes. Or like cheap public-access TV movies on topical 'issues', sacrificing characterisation, continuity and understated everyday realism (i.e. longform storytelling). The 'issues' are the main characters of Hollyoaks, now.
@@ChelseyLinden yeh I know but he’s winding me up he’s boiling my blood he decided to listen to Eric and get himself in trouble so he’s to blame as much as Eric is
@@ChelseyLinden he needs to take responsibility for his actions and stop blaming others if it was my daughter that he took photos of I would be in jail as he would be dead fact
@@sarahyeates This user doesn’t know what he/she/they’re saying. Even I’ve seen People make fun of others who are People like Lacey as well. (What was that called again?)
I love how Lizzie has gone from hating Maxine to having her back
To start with people didn’t believe her accusations.
At the end of the day, they are sisters, not biologically and Maxine and Lizzie see each other as siblings. They’ve both had similar experiences and that’s brought them closer
02:08 Shing Lin's face 😂😂
"Did you fall from heaven? Because so did Satan". Funny insult
@Craig Mitchell Okay mate good to know
@Craig Mitchell did I say something wrong again
@@ellamanfredi3299ella you make me laugh, ur unintentionally funny🤣🤣
@@qadidja Thanks mate and friend
@@craigmitchell6022 🤣🤣
It's a mix of genuine issues and feelings some teenage boys go through. Insecurity, feeling like you don't matter, that you are dirt. Then Eric took advantage of Mason's problems
Martin Curran Exactly. I wish Mason would just sort his life out and get help. What do you think Angel Martin????? 🤔
Yeah, Ella rejecting him is something that he could've easily got over but then Eric came along, manipulated him at his worst vulnerable
@@sarahyeates Exactly! Idk though but I still kinda think that Ella and Mason could be good together as a couple and the same with Charlie and Leah and DeMarcus and Vicky. I really hope Mason’ll get help soon for himself at least. What do you think?????
@Craig Mitchell so that's why there was a blue moon last night 🤣🤣
@@ChelseyLinden he's remorseful but there's still a bit of that bad way of thinking there that only life and experience will fix
Mason got to start taken responsibility for his own actions and ok I feel sorry that he felt he was an outsider. But doing what he did was not ok.
Mason need to professional help to right faculty in right environments
Mason Should Be In Jail
I'm hoping he will come out of his brainwash and start to rebuild his life starting with building his families trust again, but he has a lot of anger and resentment in him so i think he is gonna be a proper major problem before gets any better, and luckily he is still young therefore easier to reverse the brain washing he endured from Eric
Why are people feeling sorry for Mason he hasn’t learned his lesson at all and still sees himself as the victim in all of this. Mason isn’t the victim here the people him and Eric hurt are. Over the past year he framed Charlie for leaking Ella’s nude photos, sent abusive message to Demarcus including telling him to unalive himself, posted pictures of Leah online, and kept quiet about Eric being the spiker. This is the first time after a year he’s seeing the consequences of his actions. He’s mad he’s having to finally face consequences. Let’s not forget that Charlie was Eric’s first target in all of this and after 1 instant Charlie faced consequences and learned his lesson and changed his ways. Mason on the other hand keeps trying to center himself as the victim when really he was enjoying the power he felt when he was terrorizing everyone else
Because people are allowed to feel sorry for Mason, he's a child and got manipulated at his most vulnerable however he still did bad things and needs serious counseling and anger management classes cuz he clearly can't control his emotions, he's lashing out at people
Because they think he’s a victim when he really isn’t
@@prodgaming2948 cuz he is a victim but only under Eric's influence, let us have our own opinions if you say that you can🙄
He needs intense therapy and not from his mommy!
Darlene Mcclain OA I was hoping Honour could probably help him but now I think he needs a better therapist. Hopefully he’ll get help soon. What do you think????? 🤔
No I feel like Dave's the one that's kind of babying him, Honour said that he needs help so she'll probably refer him to counseling and anger management classes or something
@@ChelseyLinden help, how about actually taking accountability for his actions. Him saying sorry doesn't wash because anyone can say sorry they actually have to prove it and his anger and still playing the blame game proves he is still playing victim
@@sarahyeates I heard she finds out that Mason goes to visit Eric but she goes to visit him instead. I really hope she’ll do something to help her Son. What do you think think????? 🤔
@@grantmcroberts4089 leave Chelsey alone, we are all sick and tired of your negativity, we're allowed to feel sorry for Mason cuz he was brainwashed by Eric and wouldn't have done those horrible things if it wasn't for him so stay the hell away from us
Im only just realizing that (excluding serena) Maxine, sam, lizzie & mason all have diff mums. Gosh Dave do you have to sleep with that many ppl😂
Yeah that will fix it, yell at him some more and continue to isolate him further. Funny how Charlie was never arrested for his assault on Mason. Dave is babying him but they need to stop being agro at him otherwise he's just gonna continue to get worse. Tough love is not the right answer
No he needs a bit of tough love to make him more aware of right and wrong cuz clearly he can't even tell the difference anymore but that isn't tough love, that's straight up provoking him
I don’t think mason’s told anyone that charlie assaulted him
@sarahyeates He is a victim of bullying, racism, and grooming. Like a wounded animal you can't take an aggressive approach like you said, it's provoking him. Tough love isn't gonna work in this situation. He needs a gentler approach that isn't coddling him or gratifying him as blameless for his actions.
@@qadidja no he hasn't
Mason, sit back down and listen to Maxine.
What is Dave's problem as a parent you want to protect your children tho not when they're disrespecting to your wife.Mason has called Honour a bitch right in front him.Now he ignores her when she wants to talk to him.Dave needs to step up tell Mason this behaviour is not acceptable and he needs to respect his mum.Mason needs to go to jail and get help.
exactly
Absolutely agree they shouldn't be covering for him he needs to face up to the reality of what he's done
jwsm2 I agree about Dave he really also needs to to focus on trying to get him help and Mason doesn’t need jail he needs major counseling and anger management classes.
@Chelsey Linden I agree but others deserve to be safe while he gets his therapy and rehabilitates in my opinion
It is a bit awkward because technically Mason is a victim of manipulation and brainwashing but at the same time, he needs help in seeing that it's wrong what he's done. It's easy to see both sides when you're not involved but hard to see it when you are in that circumstance.
Yeah exactly
This boy really needs to own up to his mistakes. BUT he also needs help to start changing
Definitely, but question remains,is going to work or not ! Mason is stubborn kid won't accept help he need it
Mason needs serious professional help not to be shunned by the whole community get him to realise what he is doing is not acceptable
So far it seems the “solution” is to gang up on Mason, wind him up, and act surprised that he’s lashing out when it’s pretty clear anyone in his position (thinking their entire family is against them). Mason should be handled with care. His older sisters should maybe try to give him positive experiences with women (like hanging out with them). He’ll learn on his own. But also, he’s somewhat right. He is a victim. He was groomed by Eric. The fact that none of the adults seem to recognize this and all act/treat him like he was the one filling Eric’s head with lies and not the other way around is insane. Mason’s actions toward Ella and Lela were wrong. We can all agree on that. But how he’s being treated now is just going to push him further away and make everything worse. It’s a shame his therapist mother can’t even see that.
Yeah that's why I think he needs a different therapist and maybe some anger management too just in case cuz you can see that he can easily get frustrated and lash out every time someone says something
Of course it's up to the woman to forgive and forget. Heaven forbid they put their feelings first when a man's involved. Of course they realise he's been groomed but their anger understandable and they are Trying to help Mason see he is a victim of grooming not of girls which is hard as he refuses to admit he's in the wrong.
Yea he is a victim but i think when he said he was the victim in all of this, i think they all took it as him saying he was the main victim. Idk.
@@qadidja I think at this moment in time he sees himself a victim because the girls don't like him rather than grooming. That's what's wrong definitely needs a wake up call to realise he's a victim of grooming not women
@@Rachel-jt3sw yea exactly
Seriously Mason, don’t speak to your family like that. He needs a professional help and he needs to face a consequences.
Daddy's expectations of 'boys will be boys' is so refreshing.
He is an idiot like his son is
No wondering mason turn out the way he did
Aww I saw that look on his face , the i messed up face
Oh my poor Mason I feel so sorry for him I know a lot of you are still giving him anger in all of this (I know he’s just a fictional character but still this happens irl) I just wish he’d get help and I think Honour really should try harder to find a way to help him or maybe find a different counselor or something. I even loved that scene with Maxine talking to Mason cause I know she’s the main victim in all of this this and she really cares about him, I think she can probably help him see sense I just wish he’d let her. 😔
Takes me back to Elliott Rodger, this....
He's a weirdo freak that's on his parents especially the mother
@@DEAN_23 OA I don’t blame you even though I never studied about him in school or anything I still don’t like Elliot Rodger. I know Angus isn’t like irl just like I know that Peter Reckell isn’t anything like Dhamer. Mason really needs to get help.
Did they change serena?? And cant wait to see whos gona be Maxines love interest hope hes a good one and they last!!!
The Girl next to Hounor is Shing Lin their cousin whos been staying with them since last year in December. Serena Left the village a couple of weeks ago due to masons ivolvement in the siege
Dave needs to wake up and realise what mason did was wrong and the fact that Mason hasn't acknowledged what he has done shows he is not remorseful for his actions.
Well he was remorseful, he was willing to go to the police but Dave said 'no' I mean let's face it, Dave hasn't exactly been the best parent since he arrived to the village
@@sarahyeates I’m starting to have bad feelings about Dave especially with him being a package deliverer.
@@sarahyeates I get what you're saying but its the fact that he only sees himslef as the victim is a problem for me.
@@ChelseyLinden Dave really annoys me instead of facing up to the things manson did and making him face up to what he did he just makes excuses for what him.
@@natashasherman4458 he's a victim under Eric's influence but not under women's influence and anyway I think he's saying all these things out of anger cuz he feels like his family's ganging up on him, they clearly can't fix this themselves as a family, they need to get Mason into counseling or something
He still on this stuff?
Don't know, we've not seen him on his phone in a good while, his parents probably took his technology from him
RedServ3nt OA I’m not sure the police probably still has his laptop and I don’t know who has his phone.
@@sarahyeates Maybe I guess it’s for the best until he gets professional help. You agree????? 🤔
@@ChelseyLinden yeah and he leaves the chat
i don’t think so
OA also I don’t know what it is but these clips that involve Teenagers this doesn’t seem like Hollyoaks it’s seems more like between 13RW and Degrassi.
Honour Dave and Maxine get through to Mason try to explain.
Is it’s just me who thinks Lizzie is a mini maxine
I am thinking the samething
She’s just as annoying as Maxine.
Mini maxine 🤣🤣 lizzie is like double the size of maxine
@@lloydr64able was going to say that but I was worried id sound harsh 😅
I think mini(her daughter) is already maxines mini.
Poor Maxine and mason
Poor mason
I feel sorry for Maxine
Stop protecting mason
The hole story line has just gone on to long now something has to come of it or just change it!!
Amazingie maxine
Oh my WD he looks angry!1:53🤨
Oh Mason, you just don't get it....
There's no way you can get girls, unless you place yourself in a situation where girls can be got - is it that hard?....
Well that's the same with everyone really, not just men
Nah he's just socially awkward and a weirdo and Eric knew that about him from the jump that's why it was so easy for him to manipulate him because Mason is just like him deep down. All what Eric did was unveil what was already there, the reality is, Mason has been a weirdo his entire life and that's why people are cautious of him as they should.
@@sunishotra9958 Yeah, don't we all start a little different, but you can learn, grow and develop to be better, can you not?....
@@DEAN_23 yeah you can, that's why I think Mason is redeemable but he needs several types of help like counseling, anger management classes and stuff like that
no sympathy for Mason. he’s only an outcast because he made himself one with his actions. three of his sisters were held captive and nearly died and he still won’t change.
Dave need help to he l.p. Mason to stop covering for mason
I think hes going to be like Eric
He won't be, his family's not gonna let it get that bad but he does need to get some professional help bcuz his family helping him is just not enough
That title instantly made me think of that scene when Lib was saying to Sienna, look at the person you have turned into. Lib saying it as Summer and Sienna sleeping together is a bad thing, bur actually that is a proper glow up for Sienna😝The only person I want Summer to get through to while she is making phones on Hollyoaks prison phone line is Sienna Blake😉Haha but looks like Summer managed to sneak some form of a phone to her prison cell as she had texted Sienna saying she needed to see her😆May Summer Ranger return back onto our screens and marry Sienna please❤Team Summer and Sienna💞Team Simmer💍
I'll say this all not men are evil Plus some women are
Wolverine169 logan OA there are some Males who aren’t that evil some of them are victims and Females intend to hurt them as well. Take Donna-Marie for example when she used to be a prostitute and a drug addict she raped James and ended up pregnant with his Son Romeo.
Eric should be looked up for what he done not Mason he is was roossbllty from your actions you have casqes Maxine is right I am with Maxine side here and her Spach
????
mason isn’t being locked up?
@@qadidja what is this person saying? Mason's been charged for what happened to Leah, not locked up, Eric's the one who's locked up
@@sarahyeates i haven’t a clue, only thing i got from it was mason shouldnt be locked up
@@qadidja I am losing patience with this comment section tbh 😂
The acting, writing and directing has nosedived in the last decade. Watch an episode from say 2012, or even 2010 or 2008--it feels like a totally different higher quality programme. Now, it's like one of those meta public health awareness dramas they mock up to show to students in school health/sex education classes. Or like cheap public-access TV movies on topical 'issues', sacrificing characterisation, continuity and understated everyday realism (i.e. longform storytelling). The 'issues' are the main characters of Hollyoaks, now.
Mason is evil just like Eric
Ronnie Farrell OA he is nothing like Eric it’s not not his fully fault!!!!!
You know NOTHING. Shut your mouth before it gets you into trouble.
@@ChelseyLinden yeh I know but he’s winding me up he’s boiling my blood he decided to listen to Eric and get himself in trouble so he’s to blame as much as Eric is
@@ChelseyLinden he needs to take responsibility for his actions and stop blaming others if it was my daughter that he took photos of I would be in jail as he would be dead fact
@@ChelseyLinden you still blinking then?
I wouldn't let Lizzie sit on my sofa arm like that
Stop making fun of her weight, that is extremely rude
@@sarahyeates This user doesn’t know what he/she/they’re saying. Even I’ve seen People make fun of others who are People like Lacey as well. (What was that called again?)
@@ChelseyLinden dwarfism
@@sarahyeates That’s right. Thanks for reminding me. ☺️
@Sarah Yeates
I'm not making fun, she will damage the sofa! You don't sit on the arm like that, have some respect for other people's property!