Perry Saturn - Kevin Sullivan a Lying "Piece Of Shit" + "Vanilla Midgets" & Wanting out of WCW

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  • @mafiaz187
    @mafiaz187 2 роки тому +106

    I like Perry Saturn he seems like an honest dude

    • @Darkstar301
      @Darkstar301 Рік тому +4

      That means he is doing really good at acting

    • @gregory7320
      @gregory7320 Рік тому

      He saved a womt from getting Ra*ped

    • @michaelvaughn8864
      @michaelvaughn8864 Рік тому +3

      It's a case of he said / he said. Who knows what really went on during that time frame?? Somewhere in the midst of all these interviews conducted with them guys is the actual truth of what occurred in WCW and the politicking involved💯👍

    • @onemanarmy8499
      @onemanarmy8499 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@michaelvaughn8864same type of heresay as to why benoit and his death wasn't done correctly. This is a behavioral pattern

    • @michaelvaughn8864
      @michaelvaughn8864 6 місяців тому

      @@onemanarmy8499 👍

  • @SlyTyler97
    @SlyTyler97 2 роки тому +37

    Kevin said his separation from Nancy didn’t bother but his friend was like no that’s not ok

    • @con-spira-series
      @con-spira-series Рік тому +17

      And there were multiple people who contradicted Kevin about it not bothering him like Eric Bischoff and Dave Penzer.

    • @durden2480
      @durden2480 4 місяці тому +2

      Also Sullivan booked Benoit to win the world championship in WCW. Why would a he do that if he was pissed at Benoit

    • @goatcity2266
      @goatcity2266 4 місяці тому +7

      @@durden2480 To make Benoit feel comfortable like things were cool between them

    • @_meangreenjersey973
      @_meangreenjersey973 3 місяці тому +8

      He killed Benoit

    • @maxxxmodelz4061
      @maxxxmodelz4061 3 місяці тому +1

      @@_meangreenjersey973 no he didn't.

  • @jozefjaki2041
    @jozefjaki2041 5 років тому +43

    I believe him

  • @screamingbaboon664
    @screamingbaboon664 2 роки тому +39

    This is a great shoot interview and I believe Perry, seems very honest in the way he tells the stories, he's a great interview and actually really funny. Wonder where he is now? Perry, you were a great wrestler, hope you get off the drugs.

    • @SpiralPoliFemboy
      @SpiralPoliFemboy Рік тому +10

      He's been clean for a long time now. Now he's living a quiet life and just enjoying the simple things. After the life he had he deserves to chill and just live happily while doing his own thing.
      We know that he's got a home and is eating well and I'm glad he is.

    • @Cra2zedGob7lin996
      @Cra2zedGob7lin996 Рік тому +2

      ​@@SpiralPoliFemboywtf what is up with the name buddy.

    • @SpiralPoliFemboy
      @SpiralPoliFemboy Рік тому +5

      @@Cra2zedGob7lin996 It's America, freedom of choice. You don't have to like it but it's a fact of life. I can be whatever I want. I ain't hurting anyone.

    • @Cra2zedGob7lin996
      @Cra2zedGob7lin996 Рік тому

      @@SpiralPoliFemboy femboy I mean really are you underage and taking it up the azz also you are on UA-cam not in real life america so you're writing to people from around the globe here buddy.

    • @juniorsanchez7441
      @juniorsanchez7441 3 місяці тому

      @@SpiralPoliFemboy Idk when this was filmed but in his most recent interview you can tell all those years of drug abuse took a toll on his speech. Still sharp as ever but his speech just is… off

  • @masonclark4770
    @masonclark4770 3 роки тому +36

    I guess it appears that a lot of things Russo has said about the politics in WCW were very much true. Good to know that somebody else has confirmed this.

    • @Bone74838
      @Bone74838 3 роки тому +12

      It is true. I've watched basically every shoot that have come out since 2007 of the guys. I even bought a lot of them before shoot interviews became a thing on UA-cam. And they all say the same thing about WCW.
      And yes Sullivan is a lying pos.

    • @hugh2hoob668
      @hugh2hoob668 2 роки тому +7

      @@Bone74838 Bruiser was killed it's not crazy to think another murder would happen too

    • @roostercake5437
      @roostercake5437 2 роки тому

      @@Bone74838 that it was doomed from the start or sold out behind people's back?

  • @MiamiStJames
    @MiamiStJames 6 місяців тому +5

    Years ago I worked in a strip joint in Massachusetts where Perry was the bouncer! He was one of the toughest guys I ever met!

    • @jonrobbin170
      @jonrobbin170 6 місяців тому

      Mack Twos?

    • @MiamiStJames
      @MiamiStJames 6 місяців тому +1

      @@jonrobbin170 Cabernet Lounge Route 1 in Peabody

  • @brandondennison1443
    @brandondennison1443 2 роки тому +17

    So really Kevin ruined WCW

    • @joshportie
      @joshportie 4 місяці тому +4

      You mean to tell me the guy who came up with ths dungeon of doom ruined WCW? Thats hard to believe a genius like that could ruin WCW... lol

    • @alextreecko4449
      @alextreecko4449 Місяць тому +1

      Dungeon of Doom is shit. And so is Shockmaster. Those antics dropped ratings big time

  • @frenchabortion
    @frenchabortion 6 місяців тому +3

    Perry Saturn was so cool. Saved that woman’s life.

  • @Machete87
    @Machete87 2 роки тому +12

    Nash was actually the 1 that referred to the Radicalz (Saturn, Benoit Guerrero n Malenko) as Vanilla Midgets still pretty fukd up no less.😠

    • @LordDeBahs
      @LordDeBahs Місяць тому

      he should be silent with his vanilla fragile quads and in ring abilities

  • @Hikari3.0
    @Hikari3.0 Рік тому +7

    Mix Goldberg and Steve Austin together and you get Perry Saturn

  • @akamiguelsanchez9985
    @akamiguelsanchez9985 4 роки тому +18

    I wouldn’t trust Mike Graham and Sullivan as far as I could throw them. They clearly did it to fuck with Benoit cos of Woman and anyone who he was friends with got the same treatment

  • @goblinman7
    @goblinman7 2 роки тому +29

    With a horrendously bad reputation like that, makes one wonder if Sullivan had some role in Benoit's death

    • @con-spira-series
      @con-spira-series Рік тому +15

      Kevin has said Chris taking Nancy from him didn't bother him because they were seperated for 8 months. Then you listen to people like David Penzer and Eric Bischoff (among others) who say it did bother KS, so if he's willing to lie about that then you better believe he would lie about any involvement in Chris, Nancy and Daniels deaths.

    • @Mike--Oxmall
      @Mike--Oxmall Рік тому +17

      Bollocks Chris did that shit.

    • @skyatollah2skyharder276
      @skyatollah2skyharder276 Рік тому +12

      I get that most wrestling fans are friendless wonders and so don't interact with people, but being a dick doesn't make someone a murderer.

    • @tonshaad1230
      @tonshaad1230 11 місяців тому

      Also, Sullivan is a legit Satanist and would have the highest motive to get payback against Chris due to Chris stealing Nancy from Sullivan.

    • @warshipsatin8764
      @warshipsatin8764 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@skyatollah2skyharder276 its hard to believe theyre real people with real thoughts

  • @brickcitybikeman3108
    @brickcitybikeman3108 3 роки тому +13

    It couldn't have been Hogan that said that because Hulk Hogan put Billy Kidman over, it was more than likely Kevin Nash cuz he's the one that coined the term vanilla midgets in the first place

  • @con-spira-series
    @con-spira-series Рік тому +8

    I don't believe a word that comes out of Sullivans mouth.

  • @josephmiller9424
    @josephmiller9424 Рік тому +4

    They got to see that same group of guys left WCW went to WWE made money if WCW if they used this guy's WCW would've done so great look at that group and if not certain people Perry should've been a bigger star.

  • @billysikes1374
    @billysikes1374 2 роки тому +31

    When the Benoit shit happened, the first thing that I thought was Kevin Sullivan, I cant believe they didn't investigate him thoroughly, I dont know much about Saturn but I like him because he just seems honest, Mike Graham, Dusty, Sullivan, haven't ever heard anyone say they were good bookers, Jerry Lawler either, bunch of liars and thieves

    • @State.of.Emergency
      @State.of.Emergency 2 роки тому +11

      Lol Kevin didn't kill anyone

    • @killeryhiltons8499
      @killeryhiltons8499 2 роки тому +13

      Exactly, people like to shield Kevin Sullivan smh. The Benoit case needs to be reopen there’s lots of sus stuff in that case dismissed fast . Someone wanted this case close for good.

    • @tobe1207
      @tobe1207 2 роки тому

      You realize that those murders were irl and not part of wrestling entertainment right? Ik it's exciting but you're playing a game with real dead children involved.
      Another piece of logic.. was Sullivan capable to kill Chris' family in front of him,slowly and then subdue Chris and kill him without a weapon?
      You're a scumbag bro. Maybe you don't intend to be, but think about what you're doing

    • @vadermetal8176
      @vadermetal8176 2 роки тому +13

      1. Fact Kevin Sullivan did not kill his ex wife, her husband, and their son. If you believe so then you are delusional and should seek psychiatric help.
      2. Fact I've heard plenty of wrestlers state Dusty Rhodes and Sullivan were good bookers.
      3. Fact Jerry Lawler and Jerry Jarrett were good bookers and Memphis lasted longer than the other territories other than WCW.
      4. Fact Memphis wrestling under the booking of Jerry Lawler and Jerry Jarrett was responsible for the popularity of a number of wrestlers including Macho Man Randy Savage, and personalities like Jimmy Hart.
      05. Fact 0:35 Perry Saturn lied, Sullivan thought there was money in that group, if he didn't then he wouldn't have put the world heavy weight title on a 5 foot 9 Christ Benoit having him beat a 6 foot 9 Sid Vicious.

    • @vadermetal8176
      @vadermetal8176 2 роки тому +8

      06. FACT Some of the best ideas from Dusty saw him inventing the War Games match and the Starrcade PPV. Dusty had successful stints providing creative contributions in Jim Crockett Promotions, WCW, NWA, and TNA. Even the NXT run featured some strong moments of his ideas leading to future stars being made.

  • @LoneWolf-zd7lh
    @LoneWolf-zd7lh 3 місяці тому +1

    That's what really ruined WCW losing Chris Benoit (before he did what he did), Eddie Guerrero, Dean Malenko, & Perry Saturn especially insulting them calling them Vanilla Midgets.

  • @robdangripp9406
    @robdangripp9406 Рік тому +7

    Whenever they let go of Eric bischoff and they brought in Vince Russo and he ran things for about 4 months or so I noticed every Monday night Benoit Saturn Malenko & Douglas was on every nitro and was on every thunder and I was happy to see Vince Russo pushing people like them more than trying to push people like Hogan trying to get the mid car level over and WCW was slowly turning into the WWF attitude era.

  • @tobe1207
    @tobe1207 2 роки тому +3

    Remember when perry looked strange? Now he just looks like the average batista

  • @joyblow2129
    @joyblow2129 5 років тому +121

    Did you really expect a Satanist to be honest😂

    • @Bone74838
      @Bone74838 3 роки тому +19

      😂 😂 🤣, there you go 👍🏻

    • @wow77777
      @wow77777 2 роки тому +3

      I agree

    • @TheMan750
      @TheMan750 2 роки тому +12

      He never said he was a Satanist

    • @curthennig9448
      @curthennig9448 2 роки тому +5

      Was he a leader of that cult in Florida?

    • @harleygreene8745
      @harleygreene8745 Рік тому +11

      @@curthennig9448 it was just a work every body back then really thought it was a cult but that's just cause kayfabe was still alive and well

  • @daveh1065
    @daveh1065 9 місяців тому +1

    That's a tough sob, used to shoot up in the veins under his tongue, omg yikes. That takes talent & guts & hope PS has overcome his demons..

  • @TherealHazlett
    @TherealHazlett 5 місяців тому +2

    Hogan probably did say it, he would never own up to it, though.

  • @jamiepreston1490
    @jamiepreston1490 6 місяців тому +1

    After listening to Perry I don't think Sullivan knew what he was doing. We all know Bischoff didn't know what he was doing.

  • @pandavelli8176
    @pandavelli8176 3 місяці тому +1

    I’ve said stuff about people I wish I wouldn’t have said while I was under the influence plenty of times. Even though it was true stuff, you wish you would have been more diplomatic.

  • @gamingblowsofficial
    @gamingblowsofficial 3 роки тому +9

    Why is this looped?

    • @curthennig9448
      @curthennig9448 2 роки тому +4

      Because Perry was going thru drug issues at the time and he wound up repeating himself.

    • @DamnJohnnyV
      @DamnJohnnyV Рік тому +3

      Just trying to draw a dime

  • @williamhelus3522
    @williamhelus3522 3 роки тому +13

    Hello Perry.
    I knew it all along, about Kevin Sullivan.
    Heard something about chris Benoit murder case that involved k3:/\\.
    Thank You for all these wonderful years as a fan.
    Truly,
    BullyBilly.

  • @user-no6wd4rz4z
    @user-no6wd4rz4z 3 місяці тому +1

    Sullivan hated anybody associated with chriss because of the Nancy affair and later marriage and we know the rest Sullivan will never forget that and punish anybody who was friends with chriss

  • @snowvalkyrie
    @snowvalkyrie 11 днів тому

    I said it before and I’ll say it again, it's never Nash’s fault. He is always the hero or the victim.🙄

  • @terrimitchell5236
    @terrimitchell5236 Рік тому +2

    Kevin Sullivan didn't ruined wcw Eric did Kevin Sullivan put the title on chris Benoit and chris Benoit still left wcw.

    • @generalkhan5569
      @generalkhan5569 6 місяців тому +2

      Chris Benoit was leaving WCW anyway so KS putting the belt on him was useless

  • @mattpatterson9128
    @mattpatterson9128 11 місяців тому +5

    Finally, Someone that speaks his mind, and not a yes man. Great interview. And for the record, i don't believe Chris killed his family.

    • @Mikemonoa-hz2rz
      @Mikemonoa-hz2rz 7 місяців тому +3

      Chris did not kill his family he loved his wife and kids he would never anything to hurt them regardless of his head trauma and I believe kevin knows something

    • @weeeeee1988
      @weeeeee1988 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Mikemonoa-hz2rz I was thinking the same thing

    • @djinndevyl7077
      @djinndevyl7077 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Mikemonoa-hz2rz I believe you've been huffing the opium

    • @djinndevyl7077
      @djinndevyl7077 5 місяців тому +1

      I do

  • @docthemetalfreak
    @docthemetalfreak 8 місяців тому +1

    I feel bad rhat he never got much higher in the WWF except for being European champion. then again Moppy did put him over like crazy.

  • @chrismemphis8062
    @chrismemphis8062 9 місяців тому +1

    got that Darth Maul look going

  • @Foxentails
    @Foxentails Рік тому +1

    Uh Benoit was tag champs with Malenko, not Saturn. They were in the same stable though, the radicals.

    • @AUM_-po9sc
      @AUM_-po9sc Рік тому +4

      No, he was a champion once with Benoit, but it was very brief

    • @Machete87
      @Machete87 11 місяців тому +1

      @@AUM_-po9sc i actually do recall the times Saturn n Benoit were tag champs for that time i believe that was during their time in the Revolution up until Malenko n Benoit's departure for WWF.

  • @richevans609
    @richevans609 11 місяців тому +3

    Let the record show this is coming from a man,and he admitted this himself,that every night would be in a blackout!

    • @joshportie
      @joshportie 4 місяці тому +1

      Ad hominem. Blacking out means you lose the time while on said drugs. Hes not blacking out during matches.

  • @AaronLesterMedia
    @AaronLesterMedia Рік тому +1

    This just proves what Russo's been saying for years. Sullivan and Graham were screwing up things... Funny how Sullivan got the book back once they removed Russo...

  • @AV57
    @AV57 3 місяці тому

    Joey Joe Joe Shabadoo is a legend.

  • @ScarfaceFranckRibery
    @ScarfaceFranckRibery 3 місяці тому

    I love Perry

  • @jacksizzle8937
    @jacksizzle8937 Рік тому +2

    I listened to the Mike Graham shoots, and he speaks a lot of sense and he knows the business, BUT, he lies in between, he said why would Kevin Sullivan put the belt on Benoit if he wanted to sabotage him? Well, as we know, Sullivan is a smart man, and knows tactics, and he probably did that to draw Benoit in, to garner trust, but Benoit was smart enough to know it wouldn't fly and he got out, my point, just because Sullivan put the strap on Benoit doesn't mean he didn't have sinister plans for Benoits career later down the line, the guy banged your wife while you were with her, started rising in the ranks, took your condo, your respect, and you wanted to gift Benoit? with the belt as if you were not mad? Stop, stop. Benoit got out as he should had, Sullivan was drawing him in just to destroy him, and I'm not blaming Sullivan, he had reason to, but to say Sullivan is a kind and innocent man is wrong, nobody knows his intentions

  • @Machete87
    @Machete87 11 місяців тому +1

    Saturn like Sullivan are both from Boston.

  • @johnlangley7521
    @johnlangley7521 4 місяці тому

    at one time, Saturn had a impeccable body

  • @jamiepreston1490
    @jamiepreston1490 8 місяців тому

    Thankfully Perry was smart enough to know Kevin was trying to put the screws to him. I believe Perry 100%.

  • @reallymakesyouthink
    @reallymakesyouthink 6 місяців тому

    Bischof gets a lot of stick for how he ran WCW but it seems pretty much everyone in the back had their own agenda. It was such a mess.

  • @jeremiahmays4055
    @jeremiahmays4055 3 роки тому +25

    The murderer's of chris benoit

    • @nathantturnert1631
      @nathantturnert1631 2 роки тому +19

      Once you know you know. Higher ups man, idk if it'd be Sullivan doing it tho, I think wwe in general did it. Vince knows and I'd guarantee chavo knows but seen what happened w eddie n benoit so he knows to stay quiet n go w the story. They offd owen hart, test, Benoit eddie, warrior.. goes on and on.

    • @killeryhiltons8499
      @killeryhiltons8499 2 роки тому

      Well said .

    • @roostercake5437
      @roostercake5437 2 роки тому +4

      @@nathantturnert1631 dang bro I'm into looking in all of this. But what do you have that connects any of this or proves it. Again I'm just aging bro.

    • @nathantturnert1631
      @nathantturnert1631 2 роки тому

      @@roostercake5437 many of it is by the numbers bro.. ik it's not good proof. But once you know how the masons and "illuminati" work and how crtain numbers and dates mean sacrifices. Then it'll all make sense, but you kinda gotta start there tbh. Its no secret vince McMahon is involved with it, anybody who is anybody big is most certainly masonic at the least. Another thing is called "predictive programming" and subliminal messages. They show these sometimes years ahead of time before actually taking the person out. Eddie was innocent amd benoit, warrior was 100% sacrifice! Ik it's sucky info bro, but trust me you look into what I'm talking about and you too will connect these dots promise ya. Start w wrestlers who died at age 32,33 and then look at dates that a death occured, add the numbers and you'll almost always get 33 32

    • @nathantturnert1631
      @nathantturnert1631 2 роки тому

      @@roostercake5437 many of it is by the numbers bro.. ik it's not good proof. But once you know how the masons and "illuminati" work and how crtain numbers and dates mean sacrifices. Then it'll all make sense, but you kinda gotta start there tbh. Its no secret vince McMahon is involved with it, anybody who is anybody big is most certainly masonic at the least. Another thing is called "predictive programming" and subliminal messages. They show these sometimes years ahead of time before actually taking the person out. Eddie was innocent amd benoit, warrior was 100% sacrifice! Ik it's sucky info bro, but trust me you look into what I'm talking about and you too will connect these dots promise ya. Start w wrestlers who died at age 32,33 and then look at dates that a deat occured, add tue the numbers and you'll almost always get 33 33

  • @TheGreatSerpentor
    @TheGreatSerpentor 7 місяців тому +2

    Saturn was great. WCW and WWF both dropped the ball with him.

    • @zlinedavid
      @zlinedavid 4 місяці тому +1

      Saturn was the original Suplex City

  • @donwilcox728
    @donwilcox728 Місяць тому

    The devil made him do it.

  • @FingerBreakerWu
    @FingerBreakerWu 7 місяців тому +2

    Perry: He's a liar.
    Also Perry: Lied about getting shot.

  • @ganglabesh
    @ganglabesh Рік тому

    them were my thoughts

  • @brianvanetten6687
    @brianvanetten6687 6 місяців тому

    Hey Joey Joe

  • @1980Triumph
    @1980Triumph 8 місяців тому

    All

  • @iTubeYourDadsMinge
    @iTubeYourDadsMinge Рік тому +1

    The end of the video is the same as the start

  • @desmondcastro3679
    @desmondcastro3679 2 роки тому +1

    Well what did this dfference does it make ? you guys made plenty of money at the box office; that's what counts, brah !

  • @BOBBYSOX86
    @BOBBYSOX86 8 місяців тому

    Perry would wreck Sullivan in a shoot

  • @quintenlizardmen2497
    @quintenlizardmen2497 3 місяці тому

    He comes off like an honest person despite having a face tattoo.

  • @paulbenoit6076
    @paulbenoit6076 Рік тому +3

    But did you ever confront Sullivan face to face? Getting high and not remembering what you said or did was probably a very good reason you think Sullivan lied to you. 😂

    • @con-spira-series
      @con-spira-series Рік тому +8

      Seems like Perry remembers the issues with Sullivan just fine. He even went into detail about Sullivan trying to overturn decisions when Eric Bischoff wasn't there. He also brought up the time KS tried to cause problems between himself and Sid, were you not listening? On top of that I have been able to catch Kevin in numerous lies as well like the one he told about it not bothering him when Chris took Nancy yet Eric Bischoff said it did indeed bother Kevin to the point he was self medicating.

    • @KClouisville
      @KClouisville 4 місяці тому +2

      @@con-spira-series Bischoff isn't exactly the guy I'd go to for the "word" on anything.....he's forgotten half of his career....and he's another guy that displaces blame in regard to the fall of WCW.

    • @JavarianBrewster-bo1ou
      @JavarianBrewster-bo1ou День тому

      ​@@con-spira-series😂😂😂

  • @Bazzeboy
    @Bazzeboy 9 місяців тому

    Kevin turned out to being a pot-stirrer?

  • @onemanarmy8499
    @onemanarmy8499 6 місяців тому

    Chris was murdered.

  • @Cam-zv1jq
    @Cam-zv1jq Рік тому

    He looks same as in the WCWdays!!More tattoos now!