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jo hoga vo to hoga hi samay pr chod dete hai castism mujhe hi thodi na shns pdega lakho jhelenge 😢😢ab tk jhelte aye hai or shi pr kabhi cast khtm na hogi desh se ye clear hai kuki uche pado pr hmesha ek varg ke log bharaman baithe hue hai vo cast ki vyavastha ko kabhi kmjor nhi hone denge 😢😢ab age dekhte hai foot dalo raaj kro wali policy kitani kaam ati hai tumhari 😢😢bharamano me na kr dena ye batwara ki general me sbse jyada to bharaman log hi monopoly me baithe hai 🙏
All candidates are fighting for general seats General seats are not reserved for general castes They are open to all If sc/st clears the cutoff of general then he is automatically included in general list
@@krishi.0 again that's wrong, EWS is open for anyone who doesn't apply for reservation. Even if it were sc, you can opt for ews without applying for sc reservation
I have quota but I would say that if ki want to remove reservation, dissolve it but give same respect to us that you give to general caste people, soch toh logo ki Wohi hai aaj bhi jab marriages ki baat aati hai tab kisi ko nahi karni dalit ladka ladki se waise usko financial status se judge karenge. People are forgetting it’s a social representation and not financial or economic representation jispe reservation diya gaya tha.
West Bengal me Ameer admi se jati nhi puchi jati .... infact kisi se jati nahi puchi jati....yah bass Paisa pucha jata hai.....ya to reservation khatam hona chahiye ya phir hum West Bengal ko India se alag kar lenge
@@amittribe7614 reservation is social representation brother not economic representation it is also called social backwardness! So, if general people want to remove reservation they need to accept us then simple
First caste census is important. 2ND Reservation for SC/ST is based on Social & educational backwardness not economic criteria like OBC. 3rd this power only lies with Parliament. 4th If wants to remove Reservation first remove CASTE system because only then one can remove social backwardness.
I am a SC category students. I can say only those family are getting benefitted from reservation who are already well to do. What is your problem with creamy layer. Even if creamy layer is applied, then also reservation will be within SC/STs and it will not benefit those guys who are rich and doesn't need reservation at all.
This law is about kicking out caste certificate based fashinable chamars who have 0 knowledge about the hardship of lower caste people. Now census , parliment , etc are certain words used to bit away round bush. Next, if somebody is doing cste based discrimination then write one application go to minority commission, or high court, supreme court, special SC ST acts, 49000 NGos, 30 political parties whose poster boy is ambedkar, and periyar, and many more.
jo hoga vo to hoga hi samay pr chod dete hai castism mujhe hi thodi na shns pdega lakho jhelenge 😢😢ab tk jhelte aye hai or shi pr kabhi cast khtm na hogi desh se ye clear hai kuki uche pado pr hmesha ek varg ke log bharaman baithe hue hai vo cast ki vyavastha ko kabhi kmjor nhi hone denge 😢😢ab age dekhte hai foot dalo raaj kro wali policy kitani kaam ati hai tumhari 😢😢bharamano me na kr dena ye batwara ki general me sbse jyada to bharaman log hi monopoly me baithe hai 🙏
@@SSsuraj678 mandiro me bhut mehnat se paisa mangte hai bechare 🥺🥺 baap ki bhut uche uche business hai 🥺🥺baccha videsho me padhai ke liye ja rha ,🥺🥺kabhi kisi bhi pidhi ko padhne se kabhi nhi roka gya 🥺🥺aj sabhi jagah bheek mangane se lekar supreme court tk monopoly hai or unko drd hota hai unse jinki 2nd pidhi padh rhi hai or kabhi cast khtm honi chahiye iska Rona roya hai kabhi hm bhi nhi chahte reservation hme bhi koi bhrman ka cast certificate de de mai bhi tumhari dukh bhari zindgi jeena chahta hu 🥺🥺
Bhai jaat do not receive any reservation in central institutions and job, they do get OBC reservation in some States like haryana. But there is a provision of creamy and non creamy layer in OBC and creamy layer= general category only
Mai khud ST se hu or specific MEENA caste se or ye sahi h jinke parents ki income achi h unko reservation nai milna chahiye pr mane aese kai log dekhe hai jo abhi bhi uplift nai kr paye h unko reservation milna chahiye (my opinion)🙏
Sir kya esa karne se SC/ST ke against discrimination kam hoga kya ameer SC/ST ko jati nahi punchi jayegi kya ab unko brahman thakur ya Baniya mana jayega.
West Bengal me Ameer admi se jati nhi puchi jati .... infact kisi se jati nahi puchi jati....yah bass Paisa pucha jata hai.....ya to reservation khatam hona chahiye ya phir hum West Bengal ko India se alag kar lenge
SC reservation सारा जाटव खा जाते है अन्य caste को नहीं मिल पता..... और ST reservation मीणा caste खा जाती है ...... यदि एक ही वर्ग मे मुझ किसी का साथ देना हो तो मै हमेशा गरीब का साथ दूंगा क्युकी उसको ज्यादा आवश्यकता है मै अमीर दलित और गरीब दलित मे से गरीब दलित को चुनूंगा..... इसीलिए मै is फैसले का समर्थन करता हु और कई सालो से करता आ रहा हु .....
Bhau aisa kuchh nahi h rajisthan me meena, bihar me paswan aur up me jatav ki population highest h... .jinki population jyada hogi wo job bhi jyada lega @@Adv.A.K.Upadhyay
oppressor caste ka aadmi SC/ST ke upar mootne se pehle ye dekhta hai ki wo creamy layer me hai ya nhi? SC-ST reservation is the guaranty of representation and not POVERTY alleviation scheme. learn the difference first. creamy layer to EWS me hona chahiye jo ki fully unconstitutional hai. Supreme court to RSS ki shakha ban gyi hai.
@@yashasjha8486 I would choose those words wisely, South Korea, Chinese people were poor and backward, now they are one of the most advanced country in the world. Will you say they are incompetent?
@@abc_cba(Income ka difference har society me hota h irrespective of caste). Ek jharkhand ka santhal, mp ka bhil, north east ke saari tribes equa h.....no discrimination on basis of tribes. But ab sub-classification se hum apas me hi discrimination start kar denge.
Ye ek achha faisala hai but good SC candidate nahi mil raha hai aisa bol ke vo vacancy hi khali na rahane de government. Aur SCST castes ka sub category karate vakt kis caste backward hai konsi family garib hai ye kya correctly imandari se sarkar kar payegi?
Then why do they pay less fees in school , during form filling , why given reservation in jobs it it's not for economic upliftment ? And if it's not for that then why do they need it in jobs and educational institutions as you yourself is claiming getting high paying jobs and premier institutes doesn't guarantee non discrimination
I request the Supreme Court to please give an order and dissolve the Parliament as well. When you are the one who has to amend the Constitution, then what is the importance of the Parliament?
@@ARYANSHARMA-ms4bz Parliament represents 1.3 billion people of the country. We have elected members of Parliament to make decisions on our behalf. They have the primary right to make decisions for us, not judges chosen by the collegium.
@@RishabhKumar-he8tsabsolutely bro I agree with you I want to say nowadays reservation use as a political tool for vote bank.Even I support reservation but it should be fair and transparent and provide to our poor sc and st people rather than rich If the government made a decision like this there will be an unwanted protest while SC made the decision there will be less chance of it Thank you 😊😊
West Bengal me Ameer admi se jati nhi puchi jati .... infact kisi se jati nahi puchi jati....yah bass Paisa pucha jata hai.....ya to reservation khatam hona chahiye ya phir hum West Bengal ko India se alag kar lenge
Why can't they abolish the caste system like Japan and South Korea did? Why institutionalise it with reservations? India should focus on becoming a modernized country.
Sir, hiw can you measure social upliftment which is tje intended objective of SC ST Reservation? And, is Liberty without Fraternity is productive or counter productive?
Ultra clear sir. I was not positive for reservations but now I understand better. And I think reservations are good but needs to be amended time to time
Welcome this move . I hv seen many of my professor's n their progeny ' s being in this field dominating in various depts . Some r really gud no doubt but some ....no comments . I hope this move by Supreme Court Wil stop the rich SC ST enjoying such perks n the real ppl who r deserving n needs to b uplifted shud b benefitted . They shud b merged with general merit .
@@Iamswetha4598 acc to you phir reservation honi hi nhi chahiyey reservation isliy tha ki pichde varg ke log samaj me achhi naukri aur paisa kma ke aggey aay jb wo paisa kma ke bhi aggey nhi aa paa rhy phir kis basis reservation chahiyey actually me jo garib h unko do na jo such me smaj me peeche pr kuch log bas apna fayda ke liy reservation ka lena chahetey h kyu ki unki aukat hi nhi h kuch krne ki
@@Iamswetha4598 discriminated fr being backward . Tht I agree . I hv seen tht n I condemn it too . No matter how gud u r , ppl still haunt them fr the caste . Tht mindset has to go . But the economic sub division is a must other wise rich will keep getting rich n d people who actually needs it Wil never get it .
This is a very good step. SC ST reservation se kuchh achha na hua hai na hoga. In the same job getting the salary you get away less marks. Why should it be? Reservation baas education mein hi hona chahiye Bina padai aise maje mein kisiko job nehi milna chahiye
@@gargidev07Is mandir more important than technology? Is mandir more important than semiconductor manufacturing? Is mandir more important than AI? Is mandir more important than Start-ups? Is mandir more important than the modernization of our country? Get out of your villages and become civilized citizens. We have to westernize in order to become a developed country and rich country. Westernization should be our focus. Not mandir, Brahmins or whatever. Stop with this caste nonsense.
Reservation is not a poverty alleviation scheme. It's about representation. As per this judgement, dalit communities won't face caste discrimination from today because they're "uplifted SCs", is it guaranteed by Chandrachud, Gavai, Sharma, Nath, Misra, Mithal? Supreme Court has betrayed and failed Babasaheb & the Constitution. What a colossal fall of so-called intellectuals of India!
West Bengal me Ameer admi se jati nhi puchi jati .... infact kisi se jati nahi puchi jati....yah bass Paisa pucha jata hai.....ya to reservation khatam hona chahiye ya phir hum West Bengal ko India se alag kar lenge
I think its an opinion to states to sub classify SC /ST , not an order. So its now upto the states to conduct caste census and give internal quota to the downtrodden but they have to give justfiable policies to entact it. From my POV , I think it will take atleast an year to implement this or maybe more. Because its upto the states when they are going to take next step , some may implement this year , some may noy implement it ever. Now its upto political parties. If the leading party gets majority vote from a certain caste which is/isnt uplifted then ofcourse that state is not going to deprieve them.
If this happens then most of the sc/st who are not getting more than 1% reservation will come in general category and the outcome will be even higher competition in general and more lesser in sc/st
Ultra clear. Also, give justice to 56 Swaran Castes population in Himachal Pradesh, 49 per cent Swaran Castes population in Punjab, 45 percent Swaran Castes population in Haryana .43 percent Swaran Castes population in Maharashtra. 55 percent Swaran Castes population in West Bengal 55 percent Swaran Castes population in Assam 70 per Swaran Castes population in Jammu and Kashmir, 26 per cent Swaran Castes population in Gujrat. , and 48 percent Swaran Castes population in Utterakhand. Please, work for justice to all above your hunger for votes and political power. and loot of public funds.
अब समय आ गया है कि जो भी सवर्ण *अनूसूचित जाति से गरीबी में बराबर हैं तो उन्हें दलित और जो दलित अमीर हैं उन्हें सवर्ण जातियों में शामिल कर मन्दिरों में पुरोहित नियुक्त कर दिया जाये* ।
The State should provide reservation on the basis of necessity instead of political agenda so that our nation will be able to move towards inclusive growth and simultaneously the State should ensure that the benefit of reservation was provided only to those who are really need reservation rather than those who are taking unnecessary benefits. We need pan India policy with proper guidelines
@@Pankajtrainingcenter Not at all, this will be discrimination against unreserved categories and it could lead to huge protest, whatever you have said is so extreme, kindly stay balanced
जब eliglbe ही नहीं मिल पाएंगे sc में तो सीट NFS में बदलकर gen मे गिनी जायेगी ... सायद वक्त आ गया कि देश का विभाजन होने वाला है पूना पेक्ट् फिर से repeat होने वाला है, judges से एक सवाल पूछने वाला हूँ क्या gvt जॉब लग जाने के बाद उसके दलित होने का टैग खत्म हो जाता है क्या वो शर्मा, त्रिवेदि, बन जायेगा क्या उच्च वर्ग के समाज उन्हें समान देगा क्या intercast जेसे मुद्दे में जाति नहीं देखी जायेगी अगर नहीं तो क्रीमी लिएर का क्या जब सामाजिक तोर पे भेदभाव खत्म ही नही हुआ
The conclusion I got it from is indirectly SC, ST reservation is being made an Economical reservation. And Not discrimination wise. But in reality SC,ST reservation is not an Economical reservation. By sub categorisation who will get how much percentage of reservation is going to be determined by their financial position and thus trying to put an "indirect" creamy layer. If you make the change and give a certain caste a certain percentage on the basis of financial position. Are you saying this indicates that particular cast's social status has been changed just because a few of those particular castes are in a better economic position? The answer is clearly - NO. Still in our society untouchability exists no matter their social status. Cast is still a base for social marriages not the financial position of the same. Even today childrens are being seated separately on the basis of their cast. In certain temples even today SC , STs can't enter. So clearly the economical situation of a particular caste is not the denominator of their social position in our country..
SC mai sc-A /sc-B and ST mai st-A/st-B hona chahiye, Sc/St family ka annualy income 4 lakh se jyada hai to wo Group A mein aana chahiye aur baki sab sc/st ke log groub B mein aana chahiye.
Long back i commented about reservations that labeled weak benefit at the cost and exclusion of really weaker, Supreme Court judgement is welcome to correct this distortion
As the SC/ST and OBC reservations has been given based on Caste basis but Here EWS reservation has been given on the economy basis. I want to ask that it is constitutional to give reservation on the basis of economy. Please discuss in detail.
What about reservation in MP/MLA seats kya waha bhi creamy layer lagega ?? Agar lagega toh kitna 100s of crores ka ? Kyunki karoro paise ke bina koi neta ban hi nahi sakta h. This is the most half baked idea after demonatization.
Agar kisi ke maata ya pita kisi grp A post pe hai to unke bachche ko reservation ki benifits nhi milni chahie ye to kafi illogical hai... Brahmanwadi vichardhara wale judges baithe hai supreme chair par... Sbse pahle categorisation supreme court se hona chahie
अब sc st obcको सांसद ,बिधायक आर्थिक आधार पर बनाओगे तो सबसे गरीब व्यक्ति को किस प्रकार चुनेंगे ,जबकि चुनाव में करोड़ों रुपये खर्च होते हैं ,तो क्या चन्द्रचूड़ अपनी जायदाद बेचकर गरीब सांसद बिधायक चुन कर संसद ,बिधायिका में पहुंचायेगा ?
Cast system ko rokna chahiye but yaha supreme court badhawa de rhi hai mere anusar jo garib hai economically kamjor hai unko reservation milna chahiye jisko jarurat hai reservation ki ..........
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jo hoga vo to hoga hi samay pr chod dete hai castism mujhe hi thodi na shns pdega lakho jhelenge 😢😢ab tk jhelte aye hai or shi pr kabhi cast khtm na hogi desh se ye clear hai kuki uche pado pr hmesha ek varg ke log bharaman baithe hue hai vo cast ki vyavastha ko kabhi kmjor nhi hone denge 😢😢ab age dekhte hai foot dalo raaj kro wali policy kitani kaam ati hai tumhari 😢😢bharamano me na kr dena ye batwara ki general me sbse jyada to bharaman log hi monopoly me baithe hai 🙏
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This is entire conspiracy to finish SC,ST,OBC and Minority peoples Cummunities reservation by the Swaran Cummunities since long.
ultra clear sir.
pehli baar itne acche tarike se kisi teacher ko samjhate dekha hai.
mazaa aa gaya
If cream layer applied to sc/ST. Many will come in open category. Then more compitation for open category and less for sc / ST category.
EXACTLY
You've no idea how reservation works bro. Get some knowledge. They are already competing in general category as well
@@megharaj4989nope I have rarely seen anyone from st taking open seat .
All candidates are fighting for general seats
General seats are not reserved for general castes
They are open to all
If sc/st clears the cutoff of general then he is automatically included in general list
@@krishi.0 again that's wrong, EWS is open for anyone who doesn't apply for reservation. Even if it were sc, you can opt for ews without applying for sc reservation
I have quota but I would say that if ki want to remove reservation, dissolve it but give same respect to us that you give to general caste people, soch toh logo ki Wohi hai aaj bhi jab marriages ki baat aati hai tab kisi ko nahi karni dalit ladka ladki se waise usko financial status se judge karenge. People are forgetting it’s a social representation and not financial or economic representation jispe reservation diya gaya tha.
West Bengal me Ameer admi se jati nhi puchi jati .... infact kisi se jati nahi puchi jati....yah bass Paisa pucha jata hai.....ya to reservation khatam hona chahiye ya phir hum West Bengal ko India se alag kar lenge
It's about reservation, not about marriage.
@@amittribe7614 reservation is social representation brother not economic representation it is also called social backwardness! So, if general people want to remove reservation they need to accept us then simple
@@garimaprakash6712abe nhi karni Mujhe shadi Dalit se Keri marzi , iska Matlab ye thodi hai ki go sc competitive exam ki padai nhi kar sakte
Wo example de raha tha padhlo acche se @@amittribe7614
First caste census is important. 2ND Reservation for SC/ST is based on Social & educational backwardness not economic criteria like OBC.
3rd this power only lies with Parliament.
4th If wants to remove Reservation first remove CASTE system because only then one can remove social backwardness.
I am a SC category students. I can say only those family are getting benefitted from reservation who are already well to do. What is your problem with creamy layer. Even if creamy layer is applied, then also reservation will be within SC/STs and it will not benefit those guys who are rich and doesn't need reservation at all.
No one is removing reservation, they are helping poor people who have not got any benefit from reservation, India is for all people.
@@AshishKumar-i2f8k because the cause of reservation rallies people in a group which is beneficial for politics
This law is about kicking out caste certificate based fashinable chamars who have 0 knowledge about the hardship of lower caste people. Now census , parliment , etc are certain words used to bit away round bush. Next, if somebody is doing cste based discrimination then write one application go to minority commission, or high court, supreme court, special SC ST acts, 49000 NGos, 30 political parties whose poster boy is ambedkar, and periyar, and many more.
Ultra Clear....I hope the states will implement in true spirits of the judgment
jo hoga vo to hoga hi samay pr chod dete hai castism mujhe hi thodi na shns pdega lakho jhelenge 😢😢ab tk jhelte aye hai or shi pr kabhi cast khtm na hogi desh se ye clear hai kuki uche pado pr hmesha ek varg ke log bharaman baithe hue hai vo cast ki vyavastha ko kabhi kmjor nhi hone denge 😢😢ab age dekhte hai foot dalo raaj kro wali policy kitani kaam ati hai tumhari 😢😢bharamano me na kr dena ye batwara ki general me sbse jyada to bharaman log hi monopoly me baithe hai 🙏
True spirit ? 😂
@@Abhaysingh-v9y4bbramhonon kitna mehnat kar rehe tum dekha hai kya ??.
@@SSsuraj678 mandiro me bhut mehnat se paisa mangte hai bechare 🥺🥺 baap ki bhut uche uche business hai 🥺🥺baccha videsho me padhai ke liye ja rha ,🥺🥺kabhi kisi bhi pidhi ko padhne se kabhi nhi roka gya 🥺🥺aj sabhi jagah bheek mangane se lekar supreme court tk monopoly hai or unko drd hota hai unse jinki 2nd pidhi padh rhi hai or kabhi cast khtm honi chahiye iska Rona roya hai kabhi hm bhi nhi chahte reservation hme bhi koi bhrman ka cast certificate de de mai bhi tumhari dukh bhari zindgi jeena chahta hu 🥺🥺
Best decision of Supreme Court only Meena caste from ST ,Jaatav from SC and Yadav from OBC are crying 😂😂😂😂😂
Bhai jaat do not receive any reservation in central institutions and job, they do get OBC reservation in some States like haryana. But there is a provision of creamy and non creamy layer in OBC and creamy layer= general category only
Mai khud ST se hu or specific MEENA caste se or ye sahi h jinke parents ki income achi h unko reservation nai milna chahiye pr mane aese kai log dekhe hai jo abhi bhi uplift nai kr paye h unko reservation milna chahiye (my opinion)🙏
Jaat nahi hai Bhai wo jaatav hai
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@@niggakun-w6t jaatav bola hai Bhai wo jaat nhi
Sir kya esa karne se SC/ST ke against discrimination kam hoga kya ameer SC/ST ko jati nahi punchi jayegi kya ab unko brahman thakur ya Baniya mana jayega.
Wo sab to rahega bhai taaki kuch jaatiyo ka varchasva bana rahe 😅😅
+1
Kya mil rahe baniya thakur ko alag se , gaali ke alava
West Bengal me Ameer admi se jati nhi puchi jati .... infact kisi se jati nahi puchi jati....yah bass Paisa pucha jata hai.....ya to reservation khatam hona chahiye ya phir hum West Bengal ko India se alag kar lenge
Esa nahi hoga bhai rahenge wo dalit aur adivasi hi
SC reservation सारा जाटव खा जाते है अन्य caste को नहीं मिल पता..... और ST reservation मीणा caste खा जाती है ...... यदि एक ही वर्ग मे मुझ किसी का साथ देना हो तो मै हमेशा गरीब का साथ दूंगा क्युकी उसको ज्यादा आवश्यकता है मै अमीर दलित और गरीब दलित मे से गरीब दलित को चुनूंगा..... इसीलिए मै is फैसले का समर्थन करता हु और कई सालो से करता आ रहा हु .....
Ye Kisi SC ST ne bola aapko, Befaltu se sarpanch naa bno
@@TourIndia27 Tu gyaan na de Tujhse jyada ARAKSHAN HUMNE PADHA HAI.... TUJH RESERVATION KA R bhee nahi pta hoga....
Bhau aisa kuchh nahi h rajisthan me meena, bihar me paswan aur up me jatav ki population highest h...
.jinki population jyada hogi wo job bhi jyada lega @@Adv.A.K.Upadhyay
Tumne kbhi caste discrimination face kiya hai ?
@@Adv.A.K.Upadhyay Caste monopoly Kay naam suna hai kya andhbhakht
oppressor caste ka aadmi SC/ST ke upar mootne se pehle ye dekhta hai ki wo creamy layer me hai ya nhi? SC-ST reservation is the guaranty of representation and not POVERTY alleviation scheme. learn the difference first. creamy layer to EWS me hona chahiye jo ki fully unconstitutional hai. Supreme court to RSS ki shakha ban gyi hai.
😂😂😂 ye to mootne laga.
Supreme court on fire😱
@@Kukhyaati😂😂 supreme court jindabad
Reservation kills merit
Representation will still be given but to poor SC’s only
@@subbu6696 SC-SCT reservation kills merit & EWS enhance merit ? 🤡
Most of the richest OBCs still have obc ncl benefits like yadav Patel jaat !!
Puja khedkar.
Remove caste system= Remove reservation 😊
Agree as a general
@@YASHMISHRA-q3qModi brahma politics, ha ki nahi bolo
Bhak
To remove cast System you need to Remove Hinduism as whole.
@@user-k2ahajw no chance ..Hinduism will stay until earth destruction
Reserved seats are vacant in classA posts since 75 years why government not filling them
They are not qualified
Less competent
@@yashasjha8486 I would choose those words wisely,
South Korea, Chinese people were poor and backward, now they are one of the most advanced country in the world. Will you say they are incompetent?
Well they are not even able to score 35 percent what can government do
Simple solution is remove caste system no need of reservation 👍
Achaa or vo kaise...reservation sarkaar hta sakti hai par caste system nhi.....ye bewkoofi Bara statement mat do or toda practical baat karo
hta de, vedas me se erase krde, piche 4-5000 saal ka paisa bhi dede jo logo ne jhela, hta de fir
The what about their backwardness?how will u remove it?
Its one step towards it
bhik manga bas band nahi höga, sab kuch free main chahiye
Creamy layer does not guarantee no social discrimination
😂😂😂
Yeah but purpose of reservation was to uplift them if once uplifted then others should also get chance
ise kya pta ese hi video bna di isne to, creamy layer ki khi baat nhi chal rhi hai, mai bhi punjab se hi hu
bhik manga bas band nahi höga, sab kuch free main chahiye
@@curiouslycurious10 2500 saal se bhik mangne wale humko bata rahe 😂😂😂
Study iq is attracting rich sc/st student by supporting their point of view on this judgement
Society has changed a lot with time... and so must be the laws👍
Amazing analysis, Heads of the Department must view and apply the principle accordingly to uphold constitutional provisions
Any SC/ST can explain if they are welcome to this or against it?
Please, would love to hear from you, on your opinion.
No
@@abhijit976 please, elaborate?
@@abc_cba(Income ka difference har society me hota h irrespective of caste).
Ek jharkhand ka santhal, mp ka bhil, north east ke saari tribes equa h.....no discrimination on basis of tribes.
But ab sub-classification se hum apas me hi discrimination start kar denge.
😂 i support this. Full support to supreme court❤
@@Aesthetic_fighterapke logic se toh RESERVATIONS khatm kardena chaiye
Ye ek achha faisala hai but good SC candidate nahi mil raha hai aisa bol ke vo vacancy hi khali na rahane de government. Aur SCST castes ka sub category karate vakt kis caste backward hai konsi family garib hai ye kya correctly imandari se sarkar kar payegi?
Reservation is based on social recognition but not on economic condition
Ye to humme pata hi nhi tha. Gyan dene ke liye dhanyavaad.
Whatever
Then why do they pay less fees in school , during form filling , why given reservation in jobs it it's not for economic upliftment ? And if it's not for that then why do they need it in jobs and educational institutions as you yourself is claiming getting high paying jobs and premier institutes doesn't guarantee non discrimination
Exactly @@abhinavpapa
I request the Supreme Court to please give an order and dissolve the Parliament as well. When you are the one who has to amend the Constitution, then what is the importance of the Parliament?
In my view only SC has the power to give strong and bold decisions on reservation else political parties only use this as a vote bank ❤❤
@@ARYANSHARMA-ms4bz Parliament represents 1.3 billion people of the country. We have elected members of Parliament to make decisions on our behalf. They have the primary right to make decisions for us, not judges chosen by the collegium.
@@RishabhKumar-he8tsabsolutely bro I agree with you I want to say nowadays reservation use as a political tool for vote bank.Even I support reservation but it should be fair and transparent and provide to our poor sc and st people rather than rich
If the government made a decision like this there will be an unwanted protest while SC made the decision there will be less chance of it
Thank you 😊😊
@@ARYANSHARMA-ms4bz I respect your thoughts. Thanks
Parliament ka aukad nhi hai ki SC ke discision ko chelenge kre,, SC: jukke rehna padega mere aage 😂
Sc-st me creamy layer ke ad hone ka discrimination se kya relation hai? Creamy layer se to sc st ko hi fayda hai
supreme court me lakho case pending para hua hai lekin usko sc-st act me hi dhyan dena hai. Is judgement ki avi koi aavshyakta nahi thi.
West Bengal me Ameer admi se jati nhi puchi jati .... infact kisi se jati nahi puchi jati....yah bass Paisa pucha jata hai.....ya to reservation khatam hona chahiye ya phir hum West Bengal ko India se alag kar lenge
So pending rehne do, what's your problem
Truee
In Assam we already have sub categories in ST...ST(H) and ST(P)
Can u say wt does that mean ?
Why can't they abolish the caste system like Japan and South Korea did? Why institutionalise it with reservations? India should focus on becoming a modernized country.
Because people line up in tehsil offices to take caste certificates. people should stop taking it
It's vote bank scheme
Sir, hiw can you measure social upliftment which is tje intended objective of SC ST Reservation? And, is Liberty without Fraternity is productive or counter productive?
Ultra clear sir. I was not positive for reservations but now I understand better. And I think reservations are good but needs to be amended time to time
Welcome this move . I hv seen many of my professor's n their progeny ' s being in this field dominating in various depts . Some r really gud no doubt but some ....no comments . I hope this move by Supreme Court Wil stop the rich SC ST enjoying such perks n the real ppl who r deserving n needs to b uplifted shud b benefitted . They shud b merged with general merit .
@@Sunshine94821 not every rich st sc people are enjoying...some are trying hard..
Even rich sc st are being discriminated in the society..
@@Iamswetha4598 acc to you phir reservation honi hi nhi chahiyey reservation isliy tha ki pichde varg ke log samaj me achhi naukri aur paisa kma ke aggey aay jb wo paisa kma ke bhi aggey nhi aa paa rhy phir kis basis reservation chahiyey actually me jo garib h unko do na jo such me smaj me peeche pr kuch log bas apna fayda ke liy reservation ka lena chahetey h kyu ki unki aukat hi nhi h kuch krne ki
@@Iamswetha4598 discriminated fr being backward . Tht I agree . I hv seen tht n I condemn it too . No matter how gud u r , ppl still haunt them fr the caste . Tht mindset has to go . But the economic sub division is a must other wise rich will keep getting rich n d people who actually needs it Wil never get it .
This is a very good step.
SC ST reservation se kuchh achha na hua hai na hoga.
In the same job getting the salary you get away less marks.
Why should it be?
Reservation baas education mein hi hona chahiye
Bina padai aise maje mein kisiko job nehi milna chahiye
रिजर्वेशन ही कारण है, भारत का बिछड़ने का.
Castism is the reason of reservation.
रिझर्वेशन लगाना ही क्यू पडा? मंदिरो मे ब्राह्मणों का आरक्षण तो आज भी चल रहा है वो क्यू नही खतम कर पाये?
@@gargidev07Is mandir more important than technology? Is mandir more important than semiconductor manufacturing? Is mandir more important than AI? Is mandir more important than Start-ups? Is mandir more important than the modernization of our country? Get out of your villages and become civilized citizens. We have to westernize in order to become a developed country and rich country. Westernization should be our focus. Not mandir, Brahmins or whatever. Stop with this caste nonsense.
@@gargidev07 and you know lower caste officers crush their own caste poor people and take govt jobs for their generations
Castism main reason.....
Without Empirical Data states should not give any cast within SC/ST more %.They should justify why this cast will be given more % in future
Bench pr st sc s judge the? Nhi then how they can take this decision
Because they became judges through merit. They didn't beg for reservations. Only skilled people should be allowed to rule this country.
@@D_402S Collegium ka nam suna hai?
Why not.
@@D_402Swhich type of skills they have??
Homogeneous on the basis of untouchability not for economical.
Crystal clear sir bahut hi badiya session tha thank you so much sir for bringing this analysis
Firstly remove caste system then all sc and st's are happy to remove reservation 😊
Manipur case issi ke wajah se hua tha jab court ne apna verdict diya tha....
Manipur ka reason alag he.
Fir kya h@@hazaka97
@@hazaka97Supreme court deliberately did things that destroyed Manipur.
Harkoi manipur ke jaise log nahi hai..
@@Rangeela108 Judges ka intention hai desh ko destroy karna
Amazing explanation sir❤
Reservation is not a poverty alleviation scheme. It's about representation. As per this judgement, dalit communities won't face caste discrimination from today because they're "uplifted SCs", is it guaranteed by Chandrachud, Gavai, Sharma, Nath, Misra, Mithal? Supreme Court has betrayed and failed Babasaheb & the Constitution. What a colossal fall of so-called intellectuals of India!
West Bengal me Ameer admi se jati nhi puchi jati .... infact kisi se jati nahi puchi jati....yah bass Paisa pucha jata hai.....ya to reservation khatam hona chahiye ya phir hum West Bengal ko India se alag kar lenge
It will benefit poor ST SC candidates.
I think its an opinion to states to sub classify SC /ST , not an order. So its now upto the states to conduct caste census and give internal quota to the downtrodden but they have to give justfiable policies to entact it.
From my POV , I think it will take atleast an year to implement this or maybe more. Because its upto the states when they are going to take next step , some may implement this year , some may noy implement it ever. Now its upto political parties.
If the leading party gets majority vote from a certain caste which is/isnt uplifted then ofcourse that state is not going to deprieve them.
Ultra clear thank you sir ❤
Bahut achha se samjhaya sir ❤
ultra clear sir , reservation must be same untill discrimination finished .
Thank you sir . Ultra clear ❤
Crystal clear analysis 👍
Ultra clear , thank you sir!
If this happens then most of the sc/st who are not getting more than 1% reservation will come in general category and the outcome will be even higher competition in general and more lesser in sc/st
Ultra clear sir ji
Ultra clear. Also, give justice to 56 Swaran Castes population in Himachal Pradesh, 49 per cent Swaran Castes population in Punjab, 45 percent Swaran Castes population in Haryana .43 percent Swaran Castes population in Maharashtra. 55 percent Swaran Castes population in West Bengal 55 percent Swaran Castes population in Assam 70 per Swaran Castes population in Jammu and Kashmir, 26 per cent Swaran Castes population in Gujrat. , and 48 percent Swaran Castes population in Utterakhand. Please, work for justice to all above your hunger for votes and political power. and loot of public funds.
अब समय आ गया है कि जो भी सवर्ण *अनूसूचित जाति से गरीबी में बराबर हैं तो उन्हें दलित और जो दलित अमीर हैं उन्हें सवर्ण जातियों में शामिल कर मन्दिरों में पुरोहित नियुक्त कर दिया जाये* ।
How long these reservations will be continued. At least from some top profile government jobs must be abolished.
Very good explanation
Great lecture ❤
No doubt....... excellent explanation
Mind blowing sir
Sir iska matlab entry level pe SC/ST category ke sabhi candidate ko equally treat Kia jaiga?
Dekho yaar age Creamy layer aate hai toh reserved seat toh rhega hi thats final, ulta Unreserved seats mai tehelka mach jayega
Wow sir the way you teach🙏😊
Thanku so much sir for this outstanding session 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Can u elaborate on how new system will affect reservation in jobs and education institutions
Thanks sir. Explained very nicely ❤
First abolish Collegium in appointment HC and SC judges
The State should provide reservation on the basis of necessity instead of political agenda so that our nation will be able to move towards inclusive growth and simultaneously the State should ensure that the benefit of reservation was provided only to those who are really need reservation rather than those who are taking unnecessary benefits. We need pan India policy with proper guidelines
राज्य के नेता बिल्कुल भी राजनीति नही करेंगे। विद्या कसम 😂
सबसे पहले EWS खत्म करो
@@Pankajtrainingcenter Not at all, this will be discrimination against unreserved categories and it could lead to huge protest, whatever you have said is so extreme, kindly stay balanced
@@yogendrasingh-qx2dc yup correct but as an aspirant we should focus on constitutional approach rather than political agenda
That's impossible because their is reservation in MLA and MPs seats.
चिंता मत करो रिजर्वेशन खतम करने की यह एक पहल है
You explained it very well sir
Sir aap bohot hi aasan bhasha me samjhte hai ❤❤❤❤ from UP
जब eliglbe ही नहीं मिल पाएंगे sc में तो सीट NFS में बदलकर gen मे गिनी जायेगी ... सायद वक्त आ गया कि देश का विभाजन होने वाला है पूना पेक्ट् फिर से repeat होने वाला है, judges से एक सवाल पूछने वाला हूँ क्या gvt जॉब लग जाने के बाद उसके दलित होने का टैग खत्म हो जाता है क्या वो शर्मा, त्रिवेदि, बन जायेगा क्या उच्च वर्ग के समाज उन्हें समान देगा क्या intercast जेसे मुद्दे में जाति नहीं देखी जायेगी अगर नहीं तो क्रीमी लिएर का क्या जब सामाजिक तोर पे भेदभाव खत्म ही नही हुआ
The conclusion I got it from is indirectly SC, ST reservation is being made an Economical reservation. And Not discrimination wise. But in reality SC,ST reservation is not an Economical reservation.
By sub categorisation who will get how much percentage of reservation is going to be determined by their financial position and thus trying to put an "indirect" creamy layer.
If you make the change and give a certain caste a certain percentage on the basis of financial position. Are you saying this indicates that particular cast's social status has been changed just because a few of those particular castes are in a better economic position? The answer is clearly - NO.
Still in our society untouchability exists no matter their social status. Cast is still a base for social marriages not the financial position of the same. Even today childrens are being seated separately on the basis of their cast. In certain temples even today SC , STs can't enter.
So clearly the economical situation of a particular caste is not the denominator of their social position in our country..
SC mai sc-A /sc-B and ST mai st-A/st-B hona chahiye, Sc/St family ka annualy income 4 lakh se jyada hai to wo Group A mein aana chahiye aur baki sab sc/st ke log groub B mein aana chahiye.
Bhai saare hi caste hata do na isse accha khel hi khatam kya itne din sunvai krni
Kewal kaagazo se hatega, logon ke zehen se kaise hataoge?
Hnn pura caste hi hatao
Fir tum log firse dalit logo ko neech samjhoge aur uske parchhayi se bhi nafrat kroge 😂😂
Isme Brahmins ko bahut problem Hain. Unki supremacy chali jayegi
Phele tho ya general ka EWS hatana chaiye.uska baad eska upar supreme court ko baat karna chahiye
Sir I love the way you teach sir but please can you make your vedios in English bez we people from karanataka
well explained sir
Creamy layer certificate should be given on the base of itr. Certificate has to linked with pan
Reservation should be implement for upliftment of SC/ST people.....
Wow
80 sal hone vale ha aajadi ko itne sal me upliftment nhi hua to kab hoga
Right ❤
@@pontymoyal😂
70 sal m ni hua ab kya teer marenge
Ultra clear..👍
Sc st. Creamy layer ke pros and cons pe detailed video laiye .
Long back i commented about reservations that labeled weak benefit at the cost and exclusion of really weaker, Supreme Court judgement is welcome to correct this distortion
As the SC/ST and OBC reservations has been given based on Caste basis but Here EWS reservation has been given on the economy basis. I want to ask that it is constitutional to give reservation on the basis of economy. Please discuss in detail.
Government wants economic development of people.
What about reservation in MP/MLA seats kya waha bhi creamy layer lagega ??
Agar lagega toh kitna 100s of crores ka ?
Kyunki karoro paise ke bina koi neta ban hi nahi sakta h.
This is the most half baked idea after demonatization.
Very nice information
We shouod have income criteria in EWS also. Many times it fiund that the affluent upper cast steals reservation from poor uppar cast.
Thank you Shashank sir
ultra clear😀
Ultra clear 😊
Ultra clear ❤
Ultra clear sir.
Govt or Court me Caste system ko remove krne ke lie kyun baat nahi ki jati aaj bhi ??? Or abhi nahi to kab ki jayegi ?? Ispe video banaiye sir
Why you take caste certificates then
@@amittribe7614 to stop the reservations filled by you and only you.. from the centuries...
Tyagi ji there is no one even to comment on debate from most marginalised sc st group's,,😢😢
Ultra clear 😮
Before Election
Batoge to Katoge 😢- Bjp
After winning
Batoge bhi or Katoge bhi 😅
Phle hindu 🕉 vs Muslim ☪️
Fir Jaat vs Non jaat
Ab Sc vs Dsc ❤️🔥🔥
Agar sc catagory ka under koi arokson seat nahi mila matlab koi candidate available nahi hai to yo seat kya kar diya jayega
Agar kisi ke maata ya pita kisi grp A post pe hai to unke bachche ko reservation ki benifits nhi milni chahie ye to kafi illogical hai... Brahmanwadi vichardhara wale judges baithe hai supreme chair par... Sbse pahle categorisation supreme court se hona chahie
Aapki baat mujhe murkhatapurn lag rhi hai
Clear but not ultra clear 🙌
Creamy layer SC kab tak haram ka khayege. BKL ke liye proper Creamy layer add krne chaiyea
First remove collegium system in supreme court
अब sc st obcको सांसद ,बिधायक आर्थिक आधार पर बनाओगे तो सबसे गरीब व्यक्ति को किस प्रकार चुनेंगे ,जबकि चुनाव में करोड़ों रुपये खर्च होते हैं ,तो क्या चन्द्रचूड़ अपनी जायदाद बेचकर गरीब सांसद बिधायक चुन कर संसद ,बिधायिका में पहुंचायेगा ?
Remove caste system before reservation
Cast system ko rokna chahiye but yaha supreme court badhawa de rhi hai mere anusar jo garib hai economically kamjor hai unko reservation milna chahiye jisko jarurat hai reservation ki ..........
Ultra Clear✨