WATCH MY AI series: ua-cam.com/play/PLbg3ZX2pWlgKV8K6bFJr5dhM7oOClExUJ.html Book this video was inspired by: www.abriefhistoryofintelligence.com/ I would love to know what you think in the comments.
How feasible would it be for an individual to start doing AI research? I've got some experiments I'd love to perform but they involve messing with the training process, not something I can do with an already trained model like Stablediffusion or ChatGPT.
I don't usually comment, but you, my man, deserve a standing ovation for your way of explaining things and painting the big picture in a way where the learner feels like a part of the process of painting the big picture himself. Truly awesome
@@ArtOfTheProblemThis is exactly what you are able to do: present material in such a way that you "disappear". The audience feels they have discovered & learned independently rather than having been taught. This is likely because you focus on presenting experimental research results in an accessible way.
What I find fascinating about language is that people can extract completely different meaning from the same sentence. It seems to be an imitation of learning, not a substitute, which is why many people apply another layer of analysis called "skepticism" to anything they read or hear.
Yes, language has barriers and back then it had even more barriers. Actually, each language today has its own advantages and disadvantages over other languages. Theoretically, we could overcome this by projecting our thoughts in our internal representation directly into other minds, but I think this will be practically impossible as I have the impression that everyone has its individual brain-wiring for internal minds.
How are 'imitation' and 'substitute' not the same thing in this context? Is imitation crab meat not a substitute for crab meat? Is a substitute teacher not imitating your teacher? wtf guys? I hate this part of youtube.
I cannot believe the quality of this video. I went to grad school for ECE and I work with new AI/ML technologies from top researchers every day. Videos like this are absolutely invaluable to every level of education. I particularly love that you’re one of the few people making videos that combine ideas from Sapolsky, Pinker, etc., top behavioral economists (like Kahneman), and state of the art AI/ML algorithms. Please keep up the good work as it provides a great model for understanding these technologies.
Thanks so much Scott I love feedback like this from people in the field - please share this with your network as I’m having trouble getting the also to notice the content :)
Slight correction here: The brain IS divided into different regions that have different functions. While it is true that many functions of the brain are widely dispersed across regions that does not at all mean that regions can do each other's functions or that those regions are actually not as specialized as neurologists claim them to be. The specialized regions of the brain are absolutely real and if you mess with them you can control every aspect of perception, cognition and function in very controlled and surgical ways. For example, if you injure your Broca's area you ARE losing your power of speech regardless of the fact that other areas of the brain are involved in interpreting, perceiving and producing speech. Cut out the amygdala and you WILL lose the ability to feel emotional distress or fear, regardless of how lit up a brain scan might get during a normal fear response.
As someone who experiences a crippling amount of anxiety, I would love to at least somewhat damage my amygdalai, even though that would have unintended consequences. Amygdala surgery.
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Man… in my life never had i heard a person able to communicate with such clarity as you. I study cog sci and had just began to understand what the is status of my field rn. thanks for being human and sharing
@@ArtOfTheProblem maybe provides validation of your healthy social acts and gives the primate brain a feeling rising in the social ladder thus improving procreation chances
What about for the sake of communicating meaning more profoundly, that we might share an understanding together, and have better cooperation as a result, motivated by a common narrative? You can't fuck everyone who agrees with ypu after all @@PluetoeInc.
@@ArtOfTheProblemit did for me. The last thing you said about LLMs: No, an LLM can Imitate a behaviour, bcs it „read“ about it, but not come up with one. I am running simulations of creatures, where i try to model the world well enough for them to have the capability to evolve low lvl consciousness.
The amount of concepts you helped me understand, ranging from evolutionary biology to psychology to anatomy, is a testament to your skill. Truly commendable, I subbed and shared the video.
I am fond of your way of assembling a big, complex picture out of small, simple pieces! Thanks for another timeless edutainment video 🙂 I had a great pleasure watching it.
If your body wants sugar, it needs a brain. Otherwise, it wouldn't know what sugar is. Also, sugar is just carbs, one of the 4 things almost every living creature needs to consume to survive. So, i don't think this line means much of anything because it's a self defeating argument.
@@samuelrabens3702 Body as whole? Do we( brain) need whole body ? Think of it many surgeries cut parts of organs and people survive... So I don't think brain needs body as a whole ... Just some parts which are super necessary and don't have any alternatives as of now .
You're an incredible storyteller; the topics you choose are super interesting and you do a good job of explaining why we should care about them as we follow the journey to the outcome. Keep it up!
@@ArtOfTheProblem Anything related to the research coming out about how the brain simulates the world and possible overlaps with discoveries about the workings of artificial neural networks would be great. But I think it's good for you to follow what interests you the most too.
What I mostly consume on youtube is content about AI, cog sci and philosophy. This might be the channel that best explores all of them. About 2 weeks ago, I started watching all your videos from oldest and plan on finishing soon. Thanks for everything, your work is much appreciated.
so happy you found me, and thanks for the kind words. Would love to know what stands out as i've been at this for a while. let me know what you'd like to see more of in the future. and please help share my channel
been following you for over a decade now. you have such a uniquely wonderful presentation. from the script with the intros that 'set the question/mystery', excellent audio picks, dictation and pace, good & interesting visuals. definitely top notch skills and every video that you release is a must watch pleasure! 11/10
I think it does. I think the external stimuli provided by the body are necessary to drive mental processes. Without external stimuli, a disembodied consciousness wouldn’t know what to think or feel. This is an intuition I have that’s a bit hard to explain.
Wow, I never knew that we as humans understood this much about cognition and intelligence, it’s amazing how early brains seem almost like a organic computer, quite rigid and logic based, but the later gains in intelligence comes from being able to think about thinking.
Having seen thousands of YT videos all these years (half of them related and science) I have to say that this is the ONE video that was missing untill now. Congrats and I hope that many people take a look at it!
Long time follower here, thanks for yet another fantastic and informative video! I saw this video when you released it and it blew me away to the extent that I asked my local library to purchase the book. I am barely 70 pages into it and hooked. The narrative is convincing and easy to follow along with, and I feel it has already given me a deeper understanding of what makes life tick on the inside. Reading about how valence and arousal regulate emotion was eye-opening, and I'm sure it will only get more fascinating from there. I can't wait to finish the book. I want to thank Max for his book, and you for the video, both are fantastic.
I loved this video. It would be great to see future videos exploring how to connect the top of the pyramid in your classification with more complex behaviors some brains are capable of, such self-sacrifice, art, sense of transcendence.
Like another guy said, commenting on every video is not my stuff. But damn, man. This was such a cool video! As an amateur (human) evolution enthusiast, I felt like you covered many important points of brain/neural evolution, using relatively simple language to approach a large audience. Keep making such videos, bro!
I will never understand why people like this man aren't in schools but professors with 10 PHDs that is impossible to understand a single word of are. I simply cannot tell which is smarter or even more knowledgeable. This man does his job 10 times better than it should be. Good job, my man! What a time to be alive!
Because there is (or should be) a difference between bloviating like you are an expert on topics about which you are poorly informed (for public consumption) and really have a deep appreciation of the multitude of issues. You probably will "never understand".
Wow, I'm simply stunned by how well we've gotten at understanding our own sentience at this point in time! To think we're just a very complex arrangement of atoms, makes us all the more special. Awesome video btw
Thanks for the resume! I think identifying brain areas are still a good way to reverse engineer the brain. Those areas not being alone is the cool part.
And that's how you create a informative video. I'm not very good with adjectives but all I have to tell you is that, I enjoyed every second. Every thing in the video was perfect from music to the selected video clips. I'm quite envious. Will dare to ask you a question sometime, not today but under some other video.. You made my day, filled my head with many ideas.
THRILLED to hear this. Really appreciate comments like this. please keep in touch the next video I think will be even better but may take another 2-3 months
Yes. Culture, the world-mind we are but cells in, is evolutionary nitrous. We are driven by evolutionary forces to change our models of the world and our behavior towards it and our brains allow that to happen at an astonishing rate. Culture is the being and we are the neurons, evolving our signaling responses to meet new challenges. And as communications speeds keep rising, that only happens faster and faster. This idea gets cool when you start investigating what would be the analogous forces in culture, to the dopaminergic effects in the brain, or what new effects happen now that we're offloading a lot of the signal processing work to our silicon tools.
Fantastic video. You always have a good pace, great visuals, and sometimes misterious sounds (at least that’s how I perceived them). You make learning fun.
The fact that AI starts with language strongly suggests that it isn’t a replication of intelligence in general but another layer on the pyramid of animal intelligence.
thank you! I just had an uptick in view rate a few hours ago so this is definitely not hurting. I'm glad this was relevant to you. I think you'll love the next one
I love the fact that humans came to exist and proliferate because we fulfilled the niche of using tools to break apart bones and get access to bone marrow (because nobody else could... free food!). Great video :)
I love the way you put all this in evolutionary terms. I can see where biology found a new tool and grew it, and then another new tool developed inside of that.
Imagine each sense is a seperate entity, some see light others hear sound, they exist together and must communicate to form a map of reality to navigate through, the mind takes every sense and memory to navigate the moment in real time. Thus we are not one soul but infinite souls all sensing and communicating, thus creating a mind and brain
I think to solve the problems of our society we need more people to be "thinking about thinking" , but not in just geared toward self benefit like the chimp example of manipulating each other for food. sadly many modern day humans are still in that chimp stage, just slightly more complex ways of getting to the self serving outcome. Exactly why I love integral theory
First time UA-cam bothered to link one of your videos that I am aware of. I was not expecting something this well put together and nearly avoided the show as being possible clickbait. UA-cam has some explaining to do on that as this was a very well put together and simple explanation of the current understanding of the evolution of thought. I am not using the term intelligence here because I am not convinced it applies. You can have incredible problem-solving abilities that mimic intelligence but require zero thought as some forms of mold show brilliantly. But the evolution of thought leading to humanity of today that is a worthy description.
Welcome to the family :) What made you think it was clickbait? I'm trying to make sure I have a good thumbnail/title - happy new people are finding the channel
@@ArtOfTheProblem abstract. I am not neurotypical. So the logic will not translate in this case. But the fact I have been a science buff on UA-cam for nearly since day one and this was the first show my gut went AI generated content/name/title before my brain caught up and said wait this is worth at least verifying. Hence this being a failure in part on their faulty algorithm on making the connection long ago.
Look up interviews of Michael Levin. This video takes an evolutionary approach to understanding intelligence, while Dr. Levin takes a developmental approach. The results are practically the same. Two methods producing the same result is very good evidence of validity.
I just felt very happy after going through this video. So simply explained . You deserve huge accolades my friend 🎉. Many many thanks . Hoping for more 😅
I wonder how much of higher levels on the pyramid you showed in this video require and rely on lower levels of brain function on the pyramid (such as how much of a higher level can develop without the lower)
Loved a book named 'Metazoa', covering a selective history of intelligence's evolution through sea life, painting anecdotes to give concrete weight to more abstracted concepts
Hi there! Jesus Christ loves you. He is the only way to heaven. He also says "Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest." May God bless you! :)
@Jesus_christ_loves_you_alot Hi there. This channel is for people with the ability to think critically, so you might have a hard time snagging members for your cult here. Try posting on some flat-earth videos. Those folks might have the kind of brains that will be more receptive to your message
I love your videos. Been watching ever since you released the video talking about RSA cryptography. If I may ask: What is the music you use for your videos ? I recognize a lot of these tracks
I did not expect such nice presentation, glad I watched this video. As a person working closely with developments in AI, these thought-provoking videos are my jam!
Jeez, I looked at your website and all the cool work you have done over the years, mad respect man! You are such a cool person!! I also live in Canada, Ontario btw :)
@@ArtOfTheProblem I found this channel from YT recommending me this video! this channel is like the tip of the iceberg of how much effort went into these videos! Also, your Xperiential initiative is so amazing!!
@@ArtOfTheProblem I'm in Toronto! I use traditional ML, and recently more Deep Learning and getting into applying GPT-like models for search and summarization applications, but I have been a bit more focused on the engineering aspect of these systems rather than core algorithms/models, watching videos like yours reignites my passion to dig deeper and be curious! Thank you for your replies! I will keep in touch! :)
In my daily data annotation work involving Large Language Models (LLMs), I'm drawn to the idea that human language might not occupy the pinnacle of some hypothetical intelligence hierarchy. LLMs, in my view, serve as a compelling counterpoint to this outdated notion. Additionally, I'd argue that human language, being relatively young, remains quite rudimentary compared to other forms/channels of intelligence. Your thought-provoking question, "Does Your Brain Need Your Body?" prompts another: "Does Your Body Need Your Brain?" Here, the answer seems definitively negative. However, I believe this presents a false dichotomy, as the brain is merely one component of the body. Furthermore, consider that neurons function similarly to the internet, facilitating a unique mode of communication across cells. In that sense, your question is analogous to asking "Does the Internet Need Users?" which seems somewhat paradoxical. I'd also like to add that tribal life with hierarchies isn't exclusive to primates; it's actually quite widespread across species. Moreover, it doesn't necessarily correlate with intelligence. For instance, lions exhibit complex hierarchies within their prides, but this doesn't inherently suggest they're more intelligent than a solitary tiger adept at survival. Your focus on neuron count comparisons between small and large creatures struck me as curious. Research suggests that smaller creatures, like insects, possess even more intricate neurons, accomplishing more with less. It's not a straightforward comparison. While my tone may come across as critical, and it certainly is, I'm also a loyal subscriber who appreciates your work. Consider this constructive criticism delivered with a fan's perspective.
I mean, accomplishing more with less doesn't change the comparison. If you consider it like computing power, three neurons able to do 100 things each isn't going to beat 500 neurons able to do 1 thing each. The neurons aren't the same, but the comparison still works. EDIT: And with regards to social groups. Lions live in prides, which are not the equivalent of tribes. A tribe is not a small social group. In their natural state, humans generally live in roughly ten person bands. These bands will meet up regularly with other bands to form roughly 100 person mobs. And these mobs will meet up infrequently in groups that can get as large as 1600+ individuals. That's a tribe. A human doesn't hunt with their tribe. They don't even really live with their tribe. Its too many people in one place for that era. But you are still part of your tribe. You likely share a language and culture. I don't think this is unique to humans, but I think its important to realise that a tribe is not a small group of people. A human may very well never have met most of their tribe. A tribe is more akin to a nation than a hunting pack. Lions don't have tribes, but individual lion prides do have specific cultures and learned knowledge. Most lions don't hunt water buffalo for example, but there are specific prides that have a culture of hunting those buffalo, and they are the only ones who are any good at it, because of passed on generational knowledge. I don't know enough about non primate animals to say if there are any others that have tribes. The closest equivalent I can think of is when migratory birds all gather in one location for reproduction. But they don't really have social bonds with those larger groups. Its a matter of scale, but also of form. The ability to share a language, cultural experiences, and even have a sense of loyalty to up to 1600 people, most of which you have never met, is something most other animals don't have. We're not the only animals with bands or mobs, but I don't recall any non primates that have tribes. Though it wouldn't surprise me if some whales and birds do have them. Hive insects don't really count, as the hive itself is more like an individual that any given insect within it.
@@KittyBoom360 I didn't say connections, I said "things they can do" They might only have a handful of connections each, but they can do far more complex things. And my point with tribes is that non primate animals *don't* live in tribes. They live in far smaller, far less socially complex groups. An individual tiger may or may not be less intelligent than a lion in a pride, but an individual tiger is absolutely less intelligent than a human being. A human who lives off grid might be just as intelligent as a human in society. But a human-like creature not intellectually capable of handling social structures would be far far less intelligent than a normal human. Our capacity for massive social groups is fairly unusual from what I can tell. And does make us more intelligent.
@@ASpaceOstrich I dunno, I don't get the sense that you're intelligent. Your arguments kinda fall flat, to be honest. So, if anything, you're just helping me make my point. The ability to type on a keyboard is not a sign of superior intelligence.
I have a few childhood memories of when I first realized that I could project other's mind into my own and predict what others would think. I was about 5 or 6 and it was quite revolutionary for me at that time.
From the way i see it, there's only 2 possibilities. 1) Something or someone started all of this, maybe God or other extremely advanced civilizations *OR* 2) This is just what happens when you literally let nature run its course, with the right environments, circumstances and with enough time, anything can happen.
We cannot hope to understand where we came from, why there is something rather than nothing. Anyone who claims anything about the true nature of reality is a liar.
0:30-0:40 the animation used and the quote about our brain being a network of interplaying emotions all at one time is really important. I believe our brains usually pull these emotions up like a menu option. We feel these emotions and thoughts all bunched into one but you can visualize one color being a feeling of some sort. Maybe it's one large file cabinet.
@@ArtOfTheProblem I was looking through your videos and they have views because the way you make it interesting even though the concepts aren’t that fun to most people.
Fantastic video! I don’t think the theory of mind leap is necessarily a sharp cutoff at primates. Squirrels often bluff each other out when they hide their food and recognize they’re being watched.
Does your brain need your body? wrong conclusion for the video. the bran information depends on the receptors in the body... if you take out the receptors then the signals end... no eyes no coherent visual imagination, no pain receptors no pain.
This is so clear and profound. When we stick to correct philosophical principles, that recognize the biological imperative, incredible insights about consciousness and intelligence can be gained.
A brain doesn’t seem to be required to locate food, since unicellular organisms manage to do it, and it seems like they do it more effectively than just moving randomly. Whilst I haven’t heard of any learning new behaviours, I have heard of them remembering and anticipating (such as slime moods and stentors). It seems like a field that hasn’t been studied very well, which is a shame. Microbes may be simple in some rights, but they’re still unimaginably complex. Also dang props to this guy for hearting and responding to every single comment
So this may well be a 2+ billion year story. On a separate note, this kind of progression of more and more advanced methods of thought makes me wonder what the next level could be. Are minds capable of even more? Could anything artificially or even naturally evolve to reach this state? Would we even be able to imagine it? How deep does the rabbit hole go? Now I’m imagining mental parallel processing…
yes I did a video on bacterium finding food. But the key there is they don't actually have the ability to measure valence (which is the root of what becomes a reward signal). I agree through there is so much to discover...
Soon we'll be able to ask our technology to produce a video on anything in Art of the Problem style. But as a human, I've got to say, there's nothing like the real thing.
Beautifully explained. This video gave me the feeling of being on the precipice of a brand new, deeper understanding of intelligence. You built it brick by brick. By the time you reached AI it felt like an exciting twist in a great story - "What will happen next?!". I hope you continue making this kind of video!
Really appreciate the feedback. I will continue to push in this direction - my hope is to help clarify or solidify things. Next up i hope to drill more into this RL/dopamine story and how it related to TD learning etc.
I loved how I learned something from someone else from their thoughts, not actions. Might think of evolving towards that kind of intelligence someday. (said an early human)
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Book this video was inspired by: www.abriefhistoryofintelligence.com/
I would love to know what you think in the comments.
The video is great and informative, but I don't think the title fits the content
Thanks any ideas on new title ?
How feasible would it be for an individual to start doing AI research? I've got some experiments I'd love to perform but they involve messing with the training process, not something I can do with an already trained model like Stablediffusion or ChatGPT.
I think you can go a long way training on tiny models though, which is why I like what george hotz is up to@@ASpaceOstrich
super interesting question. I'm going to dive into games more in next video@@arc8dia
I don't usually comment, but you, my man, deserve a standing ovation for your way of explaining things and painting the big picture in a way where the learner feels like a part of the process of painting the big picture himself. Truly awesome
thank you so so much it means a lot
I was going to write same as ur comment, so now i dont need to
I do remember my idea for this channel was to help create an independent realization type feeling@@viking3073
you accomplished that perfectly. really well done video@@ArtOfTheProblem
@@ArtOfTheProblemThis is exactly what you are able to do: present material in such a way that you "disappear". The audience feels they have discovered & learned independently rather than having been taught. This is likely because you focus on presenting experimental research results in an accessible way.
title was clickbait, this video is 15 minutes
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I’m disappointed this isn’t the top comment lol
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What I find fascinating about language is that people can extract completely different meaning from the same sentence. It seems to be an imitation of learning, not a substitute, which is why many people apply another layer of analysis called "skepticism" to anything they read or hear.
So true
Hey I have a new video out: ua-cam.com/video/5EcQ1IcEMFQ/v-deo.html would love if you could help me share it
@@ArtOfTheProblem Is this reply meant for me or someone else? Either way loved the video!
Yes, language has barriers and back then it had even more barriers. Actually, each language today has its own advantages and disadvantages over other languages. Theoretically, we could overcome this by projecting our thoughts in our internal representation directly into other minds, but I think this will be practically impossible as I have the impression that everyone has its individual brain-wiring for internal minds.
How are 'imitation' and 'substitute' not the same thing in this context? Is imitation crab meat not a substitute for crab meat? Is a substitute teacher not imitating your teacher? wtf guys? I hate this part of youtube.
As I senior in her 70’s I loved this video! Keep them coming! You are
never too old to learn.
Brilliantly explained.
thanks mom!
Is she really ur mom?
@@jortor2932looks like it, judging from other videos
Nah, once you reach a certain level of atrophied brain and Alzheimers it can be pretty hard to learn
@@pro-socialsociopath769 you must be real fun at parties eh
I cannot believe the quality of this video. I went to grad school for ECE and I work with new AI/ML technologies from top researchers every day. Videos like this are absolutely invaluable to every level of education. I particularly love that you’re one of the few people making videos that combine ideas from Sapolsky, Pinker, etc., top behavioral economists (like Kahneman), and state of the art AI/ML algorithms. Please keep up the good work as it provides a great model for understanding these technologies.
Thanks so much Scott I love feedback like this from people in the field - please share this with your network as I’m having trouble getting the also to notice the content :)
You should watch more videos from this channel.
Slight correction here: The brain IS divided into different regions that have different functions. While it is true that many functions of the brain are widely dispersed across regions that does not at all mean that regions can do each other's functions or that those regions are actually not as specialized as neurologists claim them to be. The specialized regions of the brain are absolutely real and if you mess with them you can control every aspect of perception, cognition and function in very controlled and surgical ways. For example, if you injure your Broca's area you ARE losing your power of speech regardless of the fact that other areas of the brain are involved in interpreting, perceiving and producing speech. Cut out the amygdala and you WILL lose the ability to feel emotional distress or fear, regardless of how lit up a brain scan might get during a normal fear response.
yes thanks for sharing this.
Don’t play Rubiks Cube with my brain! Cut here, chop there, wtf! 😁
As someone who experiences a crippling amount of anxiety, I would love to at least somewhat damage my amygdalai, even though that would have unintended consequences. Amygdala surgery.
Man… in my life never had i heard a person able to communicate with such clarity as you. I study cog sci and had just began to understand what the is status of my field rn. thanks for being human and sharing
These are beautiful words, I really do respect this. I do labour over words and sometimes I wonder why
@@ArtOfTheProblem maybe provides validation of your healthy social acts and gives the primate brain a feeling rising in the social ladder thus improving procreation chances
:)) all roads lead to Rome@@PluetoeInc.
What about for the sake of communicating meaning more profoundly, that we might share an understanding together, and have better cooperation as a result, motivated by a common narrative? You can't fuck everyone who agrees with ypu after all @@PluetoeInc.
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UA-cam should hav a super big like button just for this channel
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Yes and it's located on Patreon 😁
@@electronicwoe *GREAT* big brain answer.
I'm just here to acknowledge the superb thumbnail from "The Brain That Wouldn't Die"
woo! was going out on a limb there
this video is gonna blow up. very thought provoking
appreciate the feedback. It hasn't hit any suggested feeds yet but would be awesome.
Popped up in mine luckily I think, at least I found it, left a like and this comment here for the algorithm 🫡👍
@@ArtOfTheProblemit did for me. The last thing you said about LLMs:
No, an LLM can Imitate a behaviour, bcs it „read“ about it, but not come up with one. I am running simulations of creatures, where i try to model the world well enough for them to have the capability to evolve low lvl consciousness.
@@ArtOfTheProblemjust hit mine! hopefully it’ll gain even more traction soon
The amount of concepts you helped me understand, ranging from evolutionary biology to psychology to anatomy, is a testament to your skill. Truly commendable, I subbed and shared the video.
wonderful! thrilled to have you as a sub. I work really hard to try and weave things together. the next video will be EPIC
I am fond of your way of assembling a big, complex picture out of small, simple pieces!
Thanks for another timeless edutainment video 🙂
I had a great pleasure watching it.
Appreciate the feedback
Excited for you to see new video: ua-cam.com/video/PvDaPeQjxOE/v-deo.html
I actually understood dopamine for the first time from a video. Also great idea for the video and superb communication of the idea
thrilled to hear this,
12:51 that transition right there, from an elegant library to a modern data center is POWERFUL!
thanks! I loved that one too....
If my brain wants sugar it needs my body.
Great job as always
If your body wants sugar, it needs a brain. Otherwise, it wouldn't know what sugar is. Also, sugar is just carbs, one of the 4 things almost every living creature needs to consume to survive. So, i don't think this line means much of anything because it's a self defeating argument.
@PePethePedalPusher brain need energy and body is a way to obtain said energy.
So as long as there is no other way to obtain energy brain needs body.
@@samuelrabens3702his point is there is no one without the other
@@samuelrabens3702 Body as whole? Do we( brain) need whole body ? Think of it many surgeries cut parts of organs and people survive... So I don't think brain needs body as a whole ... Just some parts which are super necessary and don't have any alternatives as of now .
May be you're a brain in a vat.
You're an incredible storyteller; the topics you choose are super interesting and you do a good job of explaining why we should care about them as we follow the journey to the outcome. Keep it up!
thanks! would love to know what you'd l ike to see more of next
@@ArtOfTheProblem Anything related to the research coming out about how the brain simulates the world and possible overlaps with discoveries about the workings of artificial neural networks would be great. But I think it's good for you to follow what interests you the most too.
What I mostly consume on youtube is content about AI, cog sci and philosophy. This might be the channel that best explores all of them. About 2 weeks ago, I started watching all your videos from oldest and plan on finishing soon. Thanks for everything, your work is much appreciated.
so happy you found me, and thanks for the kind words. Would love to know what stands out as i've been at this for a while. let me know what you'd like to see more of in the future. and please help share my channel
This was good. Really good. One of my favorite things I’ve seen
thank you for sharing
new video! ua-cam.com/video/PvDaPeQjxOE/v-deo.html
been following you for over a decade now.
you have such a uniquely wonderful presentation.
from the script with the intros that 'set the question/mystery', excellent audio picks, dictation and pace, good & interesting visuals.
definitely top notch skills and every video that you release is a must watch pleasure! 11/10
that's SO cool to hear from someone watching that long. I remember thinking "i wonder if I could do this for 10 years"....
That last question hit hard:"does your mind need your body?" I want more such questions, and videos that explain how did we come to ask them
Thank you so much I really appreciate this!
next up: how AI learned to Feel
He said Brain :)
Finally have new video: ua-cam.com/video/PvDaPeQjxOE/v-deo.html
I think it does. I think the external stimuli provided by the body are necessary to drive mental processes. Without external stimuli, a disembodied consciousness wouldn’t know what to think or feel. This is an intuition I have that’s a bit hard to explain.
So they made a fish that hates people 😠
are you that fish?
As a not fish, can confirm that human bad
As a not human, can confirm that fish also bad
I learned to hate everyone so I'm far superior to that fish
Donald Trout
"Hydrates" people ✨
Wow, I never knew that we as humans understood this much about cognition and intelligence, it’s amazing how early brains seem almost like a organic computer, quite rigid and logic based, but the later gains in intelligence comes from being able to think about thinking.
Gem of a channel. Fallen in love at first sight (of the thumbnail)❤
Glad to hear it, welcome to the family
Having seen thousands of YT videos all these years (half of them related and science) I have to say that this is the ONE video that was missing untill now. Congrats and I hope that many people take a look at it!
thank you for sharing, had some momentum pick up on it in the last few hours.
I'd expect this quality from a million+ subscriber channel. this was a great video! hope you keep it up
appreciate this, one day maybe :) i just need to put out content more than once every 7 months
Long time follower here, thanks for yet another fantastic and informative video! I saw this video when you released it and it blew me away to the extent that I asked my local library to purchase the book. I am barely 70 pages into it and hooked. The narrative is convincing and easy to follow along with, and I feel it has already given me a deeper understanding of what makes life tick on the inside. Reading about how valence and arousal regulate emotion was eye-opening, and I'm sure it will only get more fascinating from there. I can't wait to finish the book.
I want to thank Max for his book, and you for the video, both are fantastic.
Thrilled to hear this, thanks for sharing. I'll let Max know :) I agree, I've been thinking a lot about emotions as learning signals
The serotonin of hearing your staple sound effects
That was amaizing wtf, one of my favorite videos on UA-cam ever, great work congrats
😍this means a lot
Amazing! Please upload more frequently!
Thanks , please consider supporting via patreon currently I can only fit this in spare time so it’s a slow burn :(
@@ArtOfTheProblem Yeah, I definitely will when I graduate and get a job 😅...
I loved this video. It would be great to see future videos exploring how to connect the top of the pyramid in your classification with more complex behaviors some brains are capable of, such self-sacrifice, art, sense of transcendence.
Really Enjoyed this one! Nicely presented 👌🏼
Great video. Never seen Jane Street sponsor a youtube video before. Coincidently, that's the kind of job I'm most interested in!
awesome please apply and mention me! it will help me keep the sponsorship
Wow, damn glad I clicked. This is one outstanding production. Tons to chew on this bone.
awesome! subscribe as I have more on the way, more meat, more bones
@@ArtOfTheProblem I did :)
Like another guy said, commenting on every video is not my stuff. But damn, man. This was such a cool video! As an amateur (human) evolution enthusiast, I felt like you covered many important points of brain/neural evolution, using relatively simple language to approach a large audience. Keep making such videos, bro!
I will never understand why people like this man aren't in schools but professors with 10 PHDs that is impossible to understand a single word of are.
I simply cannot tell which is smarter or even more knowledgeable. This man does his job 10 times better than it should be.
Good job, my man!
What a time to be alive!
thank you! I started this channel out of that very pain...and lukcily I reach many more than I could in a classroom
YaY
Because there is (or should be) a difference between bloviating like you are an expert on topics about which you are poorly informed (for public consumption) and really have a deep appreciation of the multitude of issues. You probably will "never understand".
Wow, I'm simply stunned by how well we've gotten at understanding our own sentience at this point in time! To think we're just a very complex arrangement of atoms, makes us all the more special. Awesome video btw
thank you so much, stay tuned for another coming in a week or so
This video was truly outstanding, I can't believe how few subscribers you have man. keep up the fantastic work.
stay tuned for more thanks
Really interesting video, subscribed!
welcome to the family!
Trying to predict future so that we can survive made us think abstract ideas. Nature literally hammered us into what we’re now with evolution
I like this perspective
Excellent video as always!
Thanks for the resume! I think identifying brain areas are still a good way to reverse engineer the brain. Those areas not being alone is the cool part.
Very well articulated. Thanks for sharing
thanks please help me share it!
Already on it :)
And that's how you create a informative video. I'm not very good with adjectives but all I have to tell you is that, I enjoyed every second. Every thing in the video was perfect from music to the selected video clips. I'm quite envious. Will dare to ask you a question sometime, not today but under some other video..
You made my day, filled my head with many ideas.
THRILLED to hear this. Really appreciate comments like this. please keep in touch the next video I think will be even better but may take another 2-3 months
Gotta wonder if there's another layer of abstraction above us in the pyramid of intelligence.
Indeed 💯🔥😲
Do clouds compute? Do oceans think?
Yes. Culture, the world-mind we are but cells in, is evolutionary nitrous. We are driven by evolutionary forces to change our models of the world and our behavior towards it and our brains allow that to happen at an astonishing rate. Culture is the being and we are the neurons, evolving our signaling responses to meet new challenges. And as communications speeds keep rising, that only happens faster and faster.
This idea gets cool when you start investigating what would be the analogous forces in culture, to the dopaminergic effects in the brain, or what new effects happen now that we're offloading a lot of the signal processing work to our silicon tools.
No. We clearly are the apex of ll possible aspects of reality. Geesh.
If there is, we can no better recognize and leverage it, than a flatworm could written language. So for us, it may as well not exist at all.
Bravo. Kudos on absolute perfection. Best informational content on UA-cam.
thank you! please stay tuned for more
Science is just beautiful if taught correct. Thanks for that video.
thank you I appreciate this
Fantastic video. You always have a good pace, great visuals, and sometimes misterious sounds (at least that’s how I perceived them). You make learning fun.
Thank you very much!
The fact that AI starts with language strongly suggests that it isn’t a replication of intelligence in general but another layer on the pyramid of animal intelligence.
This channel is out of this world so informative and engaging, Thanks a lot for making this kind of videos, I am huge fan of your !
Thank you for saying this. these videos are a ton of work and it's so nice to hear from people who enjoy it
I am commenting so that the algorithm will hopefully show this to more people. This is exactly what I've been trying to learn lately
thank you! I just had an uptick in view rate a few hours ago so this is definitely not hurting. I'm glad this was relevant to you. I think you'll love the next one
Knowing ourselves better is always worth it. Very insightful presentation, Great work Sir ❤
Thanks for sharing
The video itself is a great example of the points that you made throughout about human learning and understanding.
meta!
Really wonderful presentation especially the Conclusion.
So glad , spent a while getting that right , stay tuned !
What differ us from them is we are watching youtube.
I love the fact that humans came to exist and proliferate because we fulfilled the niche of using tools to break apart bones and get access to bone marrow (because nobody else could... free food!). Great video :)
Another great video!
I love the way you put all this in evolutionary terms. I can see where biology found a new tool and grew it, and then another new tool developed inside of that.
appreciate the feedback, stay tuned!
Wow he's back
Imagine each sense is a seperate entity, some see light others hear sound, they exist together and must communicate to form a map of reality to navigate through, the mind takes every sense and memory to navigate the moment in real time.
Thus we are not one soul but infinite souls all sensing and communicating, thus creating a mind and brain
I think to solve the problems of our society we need more people to be "thinking about thinking" , but not in just geared toward self benefit like the chimp example of manipulating each other for food. sadly many modern day humans are still in that chimp stage, just slightly more complex ways of getting to the self serving outcome. Exactly why I love integral theory
First time UA-cam bothered to link one of your videos that I am aware of. I was not expecting something this well put together and nearly avoided the show as being possible clickbait. UA-cam has some explaining to do on that as this was a very well put together and simple explanation of the current understanding of the evolution of thought. I am not using the term intelligence here because I am not convinced it applies. You can have incredible problem-solving abilities that mimic intelligence but require zero thought as some forms of mold show brilliantly. But the evolution of thought leading to humanity of today that is a worthy description.
Welcome to the family :) What made you think it was clickbait? I'm trying to make sure I have a good thumbnail/title - happy new people are finding the channel
@@ArtOfTheProblem abstract. I am not neurotypical. So the logic will not translate in this case. But the fact I have been a science buff on UA-cam for nearly since day one and this was the first show my gut went AI generated content/name/title before my brain caught up and said wait this is worth at least verifying. Hence this being a failure in part on their faulty algorithm on making the connection long ago.
Look up interviews of Michael Levin. This video takes an evolutionary approach to understanding intelligence, while Dr. Levin takes a developmental approach. The results are practically the same. Two methods producing the same result is very good evidence of validity.
appreciate the connection
I just felt very happy after going through this video. So simply explained . You deserve huge accolades my friend 🎉. Many many thanks . Hoping for more 😅
Thank you! currently working on a follow up appreciate this.
I actually made like half the music in this video! and i edited the script like a BOSS and ya you should check the credits if ya dont beleve me
THANK YOU SON, CUT STUDIO IS AWESOME you should subscribe
Very high quality! Well done to all who worked on this
Much appreciated!
Amazing video
What a story you’ve told! I am both educated and entertained after watching your video.
couldn't ask for more!
I wonder how much of higher levels on the pyramid you showed in this video require and rely on lower levels of brain function on the pyramid (such as how much of a higher level can develop without the lower)
Loved a book named 'Metazoa', covering a selective history of intelligence's evolution through sea life, painting anecdotes to give concrete weight to more abstracted concepts
thanks for sharing
Brain is body
Why h-sapiens don't learn to control populations in region that are less hospitable?
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May God bless you! :)
@Jesus_christ_loves_you_alot Hi there. This channel is for people with the ability to think critically, so you might have a hard time snagging members for your cult here. Try posting on some flat-earth videos. Those folks might have the kind of brains that will be more receptive to your message
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what an interesting video. really informative and fun to watch
I love your videos. Been watching ever since you released the video talking about RSA cryptography. If I may ask: What is the music you use for your videos ? I recognize a lot of these tracks
wow you are an OG! my friend makes the music you can find it all here cameronmichaelmurray.bandcamp.com/
@@ArtOfTheProblem Thank you!
I did not expect such nice presentation, glad I watched this video. As a person working closely with developments in AI, these thought-provoking videos are my jam!
Jeez, I looked at your website and all the cool work you have done over the years, mad respect man! You are such a cool person!! I also live in Canada, Ontario btw :)
Cool thanks for reaching out! Glad you found this channel, my I ask how? I'm in Grimsby, Ontario.
@@ArtOfTheProblem I found this channel from YT recommending me this video! this channel is like the tip of the iceberg of how much effort went into these videos! Also, your Xperiential initiative is so amazing!!
thrilled it's being shared! where in Ontario are you? what do you work on? stay in touch@@EmadGohari
@@ArtOfTheProblem I'm in Toronto! I use traditional ML, and recently more Deep Learning and getting into applying GPT-like models for search and summarization applications, but I have been a bit more focused on the engineering aspect of these systems rather than core algorithms/models, watching videos like yours reignites my passion to dig deeper and be curious! Thank you for your replies! I will keep in touch! :)
In my daily data annotation work involving Large Language Models (LLMs), I'm drawn to the idea that human language might not occupy the pinnacle of some hypothetical intelligence hierarchy. LLMs, in my view, serve as a compelling counterpoint to this outdated notion. Additionally, I'd argue that human language, being relatively young, remains quite rudimentary compared to other forms/channels of intelligence.
Your thought-provoking question, "Does Your Brain Need Your Body?" prompts another: "Does Your Body Need Your Brain?" Here, the answer seems definitively negative. However, I believe this presents a false dichotomy, as the brain is merely one component of the body. Furthermore, consider that neurons function similarly to the internet, facilitating a unique mode of communication across cells. In that sense, your question is analogous to asking "Does the Internet Need Users?" which seems somewhat paradoxical.
I'd also like to add that tribal life with hierarchies isn't exclusive to primates; it's actually quite widespread across species. Moreover, it doesn't necessarily correlate with intelligence. For instance, lions exhibit complex hierarchies within their prides, but this doesn't inherently suggest they're more intelligent than a solitary tiger adept at survival.
Your focus on neuron count comparisons between small and large creatures struck me as curious. Research suggests that smaller creatures, like insects, possess even more intricate neurons, accomplishing more with less. It's not a straightforward comparison.
While my tone may come across as critical, and it certainly is, I'm also a loyal subscriber who appreciates your work. Consider this constructive criticism delivered with a fan's perspective.
I mean, accomplishing more with less doesn't change the comparison. If you consider it like computing power, three neurons able to do 100 things each isn't going to beat 500 neurons able to do 1 thing each. The neurons aren't the same, but the comparison still works.
EDIT: And with regards to social groups. Lions live in prides, which are not the equivalent of tribes. A tribe is not a small social group. In their natural state, humans generally live in roughly ten person bands. These bands will meet up regularly with other bands to form roughly 100 person mobs. And these mobs will meet up infrequently in groups that can get as large as 1600+ individuals. That's a tribe. A human doesn't hunt with their tribe. They don't even really live with their tribe. Its too many people in one place for that era. But you are still part of your tribe. You likely share a language and culture.
I don't think this is unique to humans, but I think its important to realise that a tribe is not a small group of people. A human may very well never have met most of their tribe. A tribe is more akin to a nation than a hunting pack. Lions don't have tribes, but individual lion prides do have specific cultures and learned knowledge. Most lions don't hunt water buffalo for example, but there are specific prides that have a culture of hunting those buffalo, and they are the only ones who are any good at it, because of passed on generational knowledge.
I don't know enough about non primate animals to say if there are any others that have tribes. The closest equivalent I can think of is when migratory birds all gather in one location for reproduction. But they don't really have social bonds with those larger groups. Its a matter of scale, but also of form. The ability to share a language, cultural experiences, and even have a sense of loyalty to up to 1600 people, most of which you have never met, is something most other animals don't have. We're not the only animals with bands or mobs, but I don't recall any non primates that have tribes. Though it wouldn't surprise me if some whales and birds do have them. Hive insects don't really count, as the hive itself is more like an individual that any given insect within it.
@@KittyBoom360 I didn't say connections, I said "things they can do" They might only have a handful of connections each, but they can do far more complex things.
And my point with tribes is that non primate animals *don't* live in tribes. They live in far smaller, far less socially complex groups. An individual tiger may or may not be less intelligent than a lion in a pride, but an individual tiger is absolutely less intelligent than a human being. A human who lives off grid might be just as intelligent as a human in society. But a human-like creature not intellectually capable of handling social structures would be far far less intelligent than a normal human.
Our capacity for massive social groups is fairly unusual from what I can tell. And does make us more intelligent.
@@ASpaceOstrich I dunno, I don't get the sense that you're intelligent. Your arguments kinda fall flat, to be honest. So, if anything, you're just helping me make my point. The ability to type on a keyboard is not a sign of superior intelligence.
I have a few childhood memories of when I first realized that I could project other's mind into my own and predict what others would think. I was about 5 or 6 and it was quite revolutionary for me at that time.
wow that's amazing you can remember
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After all this some people really believe we came from nothing by pure chance
From the way i see it, there's only 2 possibilities. 1) Something or someone started all of this, maybe God or other extremely advanced civilizations *OR* 2) This is just what happens when you literally let nature run its course, with the right environments, circumstances and with enough time, anything can happen.
After all this some people really believe a magic man made us exactly as we are from clay.
They donT belive, they know
@almoslabant1554 no they don't
We cannot hope to understand where we came from, why there is something rather than nothing.
Anyone who claims anything about the true nature of reality is a liar.
0:30-0:40 the animation used and the quote about our brain being a network of interplaying emotions all at one time is really important. I believe our brains usually pull these emotions up like a menu option. We feel these emotions and thoughts all bunched into one but you can visualize one color being a feeling of some sort. Maybe it's one large file cabinet.
yes, i've been thinking more about our emtions as "learning signals"
To achieve agi we need to master biology
And human consciousness, which mastering biology may help with
Wow!!!! This was incredible! The way you shared information across is so impressive. Thank you for your work!
thanks frankie! please stay tuned for more, glad you discoverd the channel
This guy talks at the perfect speed.
A bit fast I know
@@ArtOfTheProblem I was looking through your videos and they have views because the way you make it interesting even though the concepts aren’t that fun to most people.
Fantastic video! I don’t think the theory of mind leap is necessarily a sharp cutoff at primates. Squirrels often bluff each other out when they hide their food and recognize they’re being watched.
I agree. Squirrels really are crazy and very confident. I love watching them mess with my cat. I wonder how much we think of as TOM is really just RL
What about hive mind intelligence like bees or ants?
it's a great question. Hive mind can do many things...what I haven't seen is the emergence of these higher level language or simulation abilities
Incredible video! You so effortlessly explained an incredibly complex concept. Truly great content!
appreciate the feedback thanks
10/10 video. Super easy to follow and wonderfully crafted.
thanks! stay tuned for more
Does your brain need your body? wrong conclusion for the video. the bran information depends on the receptors in the body... if you take out the receptors then the signals end... no eyes no coherent visual imagination, no pain receptors no pain.
thrilled, thanks for the feedback
Yeah that seemed to come out of nowhere to me too
it was my original idea for how to title the video@@berryblast3930
Agree. That conclusion made no sense whatsoever.
I have an idea: we need to give AI a neocortex and granular neocortex
Your story telling approach is simply brilliant.
appreciate this Graham. So happy people are finding this channel lately
You think Dune got it right, the next step in human evolution is genetic memory?
this is exactly what i was hoping for when i clicked on the video!! so cool
awesome! stay tuned for more
This is so clear and profound. When we stick to correct philosophical principles, that recognize the biological imperative, incredible insights about consciousness and intelligence can be gained.
thank you, please stay tuned for follow up!
great video, thanks for clearly and in an organized manner articulating this
Thanks astro, stay tuned for more and let me know what you'd like to see more of
A brain doesn’t seem to be required to locate food, since unicellular organisms manage to do it, and it seems like they do it more effectively than just moving randomly. Whilst I haven’t heard of any learning new behaviours, I have heard of them remembering and anticipating (such as slime moods and stentors).
It seems like a field that hasn’t been studied very well, which is a shame. Microbes may be simple in some rights, but they’re still unimaginably complex.
Also dang props to this guy for hearting and responding to every single comment
So this may well be a 2+ billion year story.
On a separate note, this kind of progression of more and more advanced methods of thought makes me wonder what the next level could be. Are minds capable of even more? Could anything artificially or even naturally evolve to reach this state? Would we even be able to imagine it? How deep does the rabbit hole go?
Now I’m imagining mental parallel processing…
yes I did a video on bacterium finding food. But the key there is they don't actually have the ability to measure valence (which is the root of what becomes a reward signal). I agree through there is so much to discover...
That last line gave me chills! What an interesting and well made video this was.
yes! i love to give chills, that's the whole point :))))
Soon we'll be able to ask our technology to produce a video on anything in Art of the Problem style. But as a human, I've got to say, there's nothing like the real thing.
Thank you :) I've wondered about that but I think it's still a few....year...away?
You have an excellent way of emphasizing the right words to make it easier to understand.
thank you! I obsess over words which is why these take so long
Beautifully explained. This video gave me the feeling of being on the precipice of a brand new, deeper understanding of intelligence. You built it brick by brick. By the time you reached AI it felt like an exciting twist in a great story - "What will happen next?!". I hope you continue making this kind of video!
Really appreciate the feedback. I will continue to push in this direction - my hope is to help clarify or solidify things. Next up i hope to drill more into this RL/dopamine story and how it related to TD learning etc.
@@ArtOfTheProblemsounds great. I've joined your patreon to show support.
Intelligent way of explaining intelligence.
thanks stay tuned for a follow up
I knew language was a big part of it. Thanks for the comprehensive narration and video.
appreciate the feedback stay tuned
Damn this video is so well put and informative. I love this format/style. You deserve way more recognition!
this means a lot, please helpe me share it as I see my channel gaining momentum now
I loved how I learned something from someone else from their thoughts, not actions. Might think of evolving towards that kind of intelligence someday. (said an early human)