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  • @windego999
    @windego999 Рік тому +676

    I think that despite the constant censorship, at least you can say the voice cast did their best with what they were given. We all know how iconic dub Kaiba is.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +109

      I know a lot of English voice casts catch flak, but I honestly think many do a great job with the scripts and direction they have. It’s not easy to sell such cheesy dialogue, but many perform well despite their circumstances

    • @WagwanHappyPappyHapPap
      @WagwanHappyPappyHapPap Рік тому +34

      The US and their views on censorship have done the opposite of their intended goal. It's quite hilarious and the cast should be proud that they did such a fantastic job given the circumstance

    • @ChrrolloDI
      @ChrrolloDI Рік тому +24

      Ikr. The fact that people say dubs suck when dub Kaiba rivals his japanese peer is astounding.

    • @Lucario1121
      @Lucario1121 Рік тому +39

      @@DerfDeRox I don't know if this is true or not but even Takahashi himself said that Eric Stuart did a better Kaiba than the Japanese VA did

    • @mattwo7
      @mattwo7 Рік тому +9

      9:44 Dan Green bullying Dan Green. And then there's the time in 5D's when Yugi tried to arrest Tristan (that bully is actually Tetsu Ushio/Trudge but he wasn't named in Duel Monsters)).

  • @dubisbetterthansub5254
    @dubisbetterthansub5254 Рік тому +92

    Shadow realm is a great euphemism, honestly. And it’s become a fairly iconic meme, too. I’ve heard UFC fighters and commentators refer to knockouts as being “sent to the shadow realm.”

    • @GODDAMNLETMEJOIN
      @GODDAMNLETMEJOIN Рік тому +9

      I don't know why this is so funny to me, but I have a little giggle every time I hear someone say this.

    • @corazonfeathers8116
      @corazonfeathers8116 Рік тому +5

      Ngl that's sick

    • @WildDancer101
      @WildDancer101 Місяць тому +1

      Not to mention it sounds like a fate worse than death, something 4Kids inadvertently created.

  • @AnotherSWnerd
    @AnotherSWnerd Рік тому +144

    The story of how Takahashi dove into the river to save lives was symbolic of how Joey jumps in the river to retrieve yugis puzzle. Both are acts of courage as 1 risks their own well being for the sake of others

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +54

      It’s nice to see when someone tells tales of bravery and they themselves are willing to be as brave. But it’s also quite sad as bravery can only go so far. The ocean is dangerous, even for a proficient swimmer. His courage and stories will live on

    • @giannixx
      @giannixx 4 місяці тому

      But Jonnouchi/Joey did that when he realized Yugi was a friend to him. Also later on when he jumped out of the ship to retrieve the Exodia pieces. Takahashi risked his life to save two strangers. That's even more heroic imo.

  • @floettefavors
    @floettefavors Рік тому +512

    7:42 I tend to watch the dub just for gems like these
    "Joey I don't think we should cook the candy bars"
    "Back up I know what I'm doing"

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +78

      same! I just had to include that little bit cause it was too good haha

    • @maxlancaster-vk6ll
      @maxlancaster-vk6ll Рік тому +40

      "My first words were NUTRON BLAST ATTACK"- Seto Kaiba

    • @Lesbiwolf92
      @Lesbiwolf92 Рік тому +38

      I didn't realise it at the time but the reason they mention cooking "candy bars" was so they could pretend the curry and rice they had wasn't actually japanese curry and rice. They basically pulled a jelly donut.

    • @thepaintingbanjo8894
      @thepaintingbanjo8894 Рік тому +6

      The only 4kids dub saving grace. Still can't excuse them for the travesty that is the old One Piece dub.
      I dunno if it was 4kids who ever touched the Digimon dubs but those are golden in creativity too for the amount of censorship they needed to keep it TV-Y7. They still Westernized the characters' names but it made sense in conjunction to their OJ japanese names and kept it obvious that _they all live in Japan_, on top of keeping all the religious undertones of the digimon. It really was all just child-friendly Ghost Stories dub back then.

    • @cardgamefun5635
      @cardgamefun5635 Рік тому +1

      This is a man who nose

  • @somedudewithakeyboard5388
    @somedudewithakeyboard5388 Рік тому +131

    I love how their solution to death being in a kid's show was to replace Dying with being sent to basically Hell
    Like, if someone dies, a kid growing up in the US(a majority Catholic and/or Christian country) would more than likely tell themselves "they went to Heaven" to soften the impact of a character or person dying. But the Shadow Realm? A dimension where you are tortured and trapped for all eternity? There's no room for "they went to Heaven" that's just straight up "You go to Hell, the end."

    • @giannixx
      @giannixx 4 місяці тому

      But that's basically what happens if you don't go to church every Sunday, right? Children better learn early!

  • @darkjaden-fe
    @darkjaden-fe Рік тому +554

    Honestly, it's so wild to me that the localization team thought that an endless dark abyss where you're mentally tortured for eternity was more comforting than Death(TM)

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +87

      Also seems bad to avoid the subject of death entirely. it’s something we all have to deal with in many ways, but to make a realm of suffering take it’s place? It was a wild choice

    • @Yanderewaifu
      @Yanderewaifu Рік тому +17

      @@DerfDeRox im not sure its a realm of suffering, shadow games take place inside the shadow realm and they seem fine aside from stuff associated with the shadow game itself such as your body disappearing as your life points drop. I do admit that its described as such though. From what ive read as well the shadow realm wasnt entirely a western addition. It was inspired by the "world of darkness" that was occasionally mentioned in the jp.

    • @mokubah
      @mokubah Рік тому +9

      I mean that is the concept of death some of us were raised on anyways

    • @dragonicbladex7574
      @dragonicbladex7574 11 місяців тому +11

      I find it funny with the bakura scene where he sends those duelists to hell cuz it's like, no no i'm not gonna send you to hell, I'm gonna send you to puuuurple helll, oooo

    • @giannixx
      @giannixx 4 місяці тому

      I mean, we in the West are so afraid of real death that we came up with our own fiery version of the Shadow Realm, so I guess it makes sense. Children being exposed to death on tv is bad, but introducing and making them believe that they'll go to hell if they misbehave is fine, all part of the good Christian values one ought to uphold.

  • @TKnHappyNess
    @TKnHappyNess Рік тому +18

    "Don't move or we'll shoot you with our invisible guns." - YGOTAS

  • @ssoliver1996
    @ssoliver1996 Рік тому +826

    To be fair, the Shadow Realm was the best change they made. Like I knew about death as a kid it wasn't a scary thing to me. But the fucking Shadow Realm that shit was terrifying cause it felt like a nightmare place that was magical.

    • @cosmok-1367
      @cosmok-1367 Рік тому +226

      Kind of ironic how 4Kids wanted to censor death, so instead they created the Shadow realm to replace it, which in turn made it worse because if someone lost a shadow game, rather than dying, they're pretty much tormentented mentally and spirtually in a version of hell. Which is way worse than just straight up death in my opinion.

    • @xlro8f853
      @xlro8f853 Рік тому +86

      Literally a fate worse than death 😂

    • @TiltedSquare
      @TiltedSquare Рік тому +75

      ​@@cosmok-1367very similar how during the batman animated series, they thought Joker killing people was too violent and dark, so they made laughing gas where people uncontrollably laugh for who knows how long.

    • @briansilva3344
      @briansilva3344 Рік тому +22

      @@TiltedSquare definitely creative, and wish GX used the Shadow Realm instead of the Stars.

    • @spookyspookat5038
      @spookyspookat5038 Рік тому +3

      Copium

  • @LucyKosaki
    @LucyKosaki Рік тому +92

    I think what should've been mentioned is that the shadow realm itself is canon and in the manga. But it only applies to very few duels where owners of millenium items initiate a shadow game betting their souls. 4kids just took that concept and applied it to basicly every situation where lifes are on the line, regardless if millenium powers are being used or not.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +9

      That’s true! I’ve discussed it in the comments with others, but I should’ve put it in the final cut of the video!

    • @GreenlightBze
      @GreenlightBze Рік тому

      Explain.. from watching 95% of the episodes every Saturday most soul for soul games involved at least one yami character..

    • @sigiligus
      @sigiligus 3 місяці тому

      All I remember is Bakura sent three kids to actual hell.

  • @SAINZHALLOW
    @SAINZHALLOW Рік тому +80

    Even though I wouldn't say I like it when localizations change elements of an anime, I was fond of the idea of the Shadow Realm. It made it feel like a genuine element of the Yu-gi-oh world, even if it was a stand-in for death.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +18

      I can agree to that! It’s usage may be silly and downright absurd at times, but it still feels like part of Yugioh’s world. Similar to how in DBZ they used “the next dimension”. But there really is another realm in the Dragon Ball universe after death, so it kind of works by fitting the world!

    • @keltonschleyer6367
      @keltonschleyer6367 Рік тому +2

      Plus the Shadow Real has become an iconic meme ❤

  • @user-mx4is4fx3c
    @user-mx4is4fx3c Рік тому +96

    By far the weirdest censorship was they decision to remove Yugi's mom. Genuinely confused on why they did that.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +40

      “American children can’t know Yugi has a mom!” Idk why, that is a weird one. I probably should’ve included that in the vid though :p It’s likely on the cutting room floor somewhere haha

    • @FrenkTheJoy
      @FrenkTheJoy Рік тому +27

      Probably just because she's barely in the show anyway. Makes more sense to cut a character's one scene if you need to trim for time.

    • @dustinwilcox5014
      @dustinwilcox5014 Рік тому +6

      ​@@FrenkTheJoyI'd imagine this is why 4Kids cut some extraneous Big the Cat scenes from Sonic X, too.

    • @user-mx4is4fx3c
      @user-mx4is4fx3c Рік тому +4

      @@FrenkTheJoy Trim for time ? When was that ever a necessity with Yu-Gi-Oh?

    • @WinchesterxNL
      @WinchesterxNL Рік тому +13

      Cutting room floor?
      Don't you mean: The Shadow Realm?

  • @Mekasoundwave
    @Mekasoundwave Рік тому +387

    6:49 The removal of all text from Duel Monsters cards was actually not a change mandated by 4Kids, it was one by the FCC. After the era of 80s toy commercial cartoons, a lot more restrictions were placed on what could and couldn't be shown in children's programming. One of the biggest rules was that if your show was promoting a toy line or merchandise line, you could not have the actual toy appear in the show because that would fully push it into commercial territory. And given that Yu-Gi-Oh is a show about card games that is also trying to sell you the real world equivalent of said card game, that was a problem so they just covered up all the text so there was some level of obfuscation in play. This is also why if you watch any of the movies, the cards have full english text since film has no such regulations. It was also a general policy of 4Kids to remove most Japanese text from shows and NOT translate it to english so that it was easier to sell the shows to non-English, non-Japanese speaking foreign markets. I personally kind of like the no-text look of the cards, it makes them feel more mysterious and mystical while also making all the absurd Calvinball played with the game in Duelist Kingdom a little more plausible.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +64

      The more you know! Sometimes the most interesting tidbits are in the comments! I'll have to look more into this because that's extremely interesting. I always find companies importing products from radically different cultures fascinating, especially when they hit US laws and culture.

    • @Chaotic_H3LL
      @Chaotic_H3LL Рік тому +41

      I kinda like the no text cards as well, because it plays into when Characters say what the cards do. We all meme the "i activate pot of greed, this card allows me to draw 2 cards" but if the card doesn't have text, explaining what the card does actually makes sense

    • @A88mph
      @A88mph Рік тому +18

      As a kid, before I started to play the TCG, I dreaded the thought of reading the rulebook, as I thought that was the only place where all the card names and effects were. Imagine my surprise when I got the Kaiba Starter deck, and there were words on the cards, but said cards looked different as well.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +6

      @@A88mph Same boat when I was a kid. I thought I'd have to learn each card's rule and was surprised to see how different the real cards were. I immediately loved them and their style despite being used to the 4kids anime haha

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +9

      @@Chaotic_H3LL It also allowed cards to have whatever rules they needed at the time for the plot haha

  • @brandonbaggaley2317
    @brandonbaggaley2317 Рік тому +25

    How ironic. Death is too dark, but a realm of perpetual torture is fine.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +3

      Wild how they dance around death and land at a hellish shadow realm as the answer. Not as kind as the “next dimension” of DBZ

  • @salshinobi
    @salshinobi 4 місяці тому +2

    20:51 When I was a kid i also made cards to play with….me, my brothers and my cousins we all made cards for ourselves out of paper. And also colored it. Good old days.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox 4 місяці тому

      Such great times and memories, always great to hear when others also were so into it they made cards too!

  • @EliteLoserZR
    @EliteLoserZR Рік тому +54

    I haven't seen the Japanese version of YuGiOh in a while but I think the dub and the original are special in their own ways. I will say I prefer the dub Kaiba because he's so hilariously self aware and over the top in being a greedy company president, and his casual roasting of nearly everyone is also a gem.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +9

      It’s a fun watch for the campy cheesiness of it! the characters are all so well defined in their odd ways, Kaiba truly being one of the shining gems haha His lines are priceless

  • @degozaru1235
    @degozaru1235 5 місяців тому +2

    so sad the creator of yugi is dead... it felt so magical to watch and play yugi as a kid in the 90's, rip

  • @shaybaybaybaybaymarie
    @shaybaybaybaybaymarie Рік тому +76

    I love all of Yugioh. The cards, the manga, the anime, the movies, and yes, even the dub. I don’t care if it’s meant to sell me something. It’s something I never knew I absolutely needed!

    • @spookyspookat5038
      @spookyspookat5038 Рік тому +4

      It's like saying that you love your dog so much you even love it's feces. (by feces I mean the dub)

    • @Luipaard005
      @Luipaard005 Рік тому +12

      The dub directly lead to the creation of YGOTAS, its generated lots of good memes, there's great VAing with Eric Stuart and Dan Green. loving the dub is fine and people who complain about others liking it are lame.

    • @shaybaybaybaybaymarie
      @shaybaybaybaybaymarie Рік тому

      @@Luipaard005 Agreed. Dub is great and feels like just another facet of the yugioh franchise.

    • @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
      @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 4 місяці тому

      @@Luipaard005I don’t know why the ppl hate the dub outside of story changing and censorship.

  • @13Lion
    @13Lion Рік тому +55

    I wonder how much fun the Rare hunters had with beating up their own boss in that scene 😂

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +24

      Imagine getting paid to beat up your boss lmao great day at the office today

    • @ranting2daMAX
      @ranting2daMAX Рік тому +9

      As a kid, I was absolutely TERRIFIED of Yami Marik, and had a massive crush on regular Marik (he’s dripped out ngl, and he likes putting 50 million ice cubes in one cup of water. Then again that might be where I got my love for ice from..??)

    • @THIZzSCO415
      @THIZzSCO415 Рік тому +2

      @@ranting2daMAXlol that’s Marik “Sebastian”Ishtar that likes Ice this is just reg Marik Ishtar 😂

    • @markcoroneos7811
      @markcoroneos7811 Рік тому +3

      Do they even get paid? He has them under mind control

    • @Drums_of_Liberation
      @Drums_of_Liberation 9 місяців тому

      ​@@THIZzSCO415No that Billy.

  • @rebootnut
    @rebootnut Рік тому +7

    I appreciate them all. But the 4Kids version will always be my favorite. It's the version that got my nephew and I into the card game way back then. Wonderful memories.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +1

      The nostalgia and getting me into the card game really boost the 4kids dub for me. I couldn’t recommend it to new viewers unless they want a laugh, but it will always have a special place for those who grew up with it! also, nice Reboot avatar!

    • @rebootnut
      @rebootnut Рік тому +1

      @@DerfDeRox you’ve been the only one to recognize Bob. Nice! 😄

  • @Chris-tz2um
    @Chris-tz2um Рік тому +4

    Always lovely to see the US cares so much about violence and guns in cartoons, but not in real life.

  • @newelljoseph5060
    @newelljoseph5060 Рік тому +29

    I honestly dug the idea of the Shadow Realm. People dying didn't feel like as big a deal as the concept of an unexplainable world that in my mind sounded like a concept of Hell that you couldn't get out of

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +9

      I thought the idea fit the theme well! I just also thought the implementation like “magic energy disk” saws cutting you into the Shadow Realm or the “Magic Shadow Box” (totally not a bomb) dropping you into the Shadow Realm were quite silly haha

    • @darkknight5541
      @darkknight5541 Рік тому

      Especially when you hear how the characters describe it. "A world where monsters will tear your soul to shreds." Chilling.

  • @TheLawliet10
    @TheLawliet10 Рік тому +36

    For me, if I rewatch Yugioh DM it has to be the dub. Yeah it's cheezy, kinda dumb, and it changes a lot, but it's little things like Joey's Brooklyn accent, the jokes that they slid into the dub, hearing Dan Green summoning the Dark Magician, and the fact that the 4 Kids voice cast are all really cool and friendly people who actually go to big events to do in character duels that mix with my nostalgia and make me need to watch the dub.
    Plus that opening is amazing, the original is great too, but the english op for DM is just this mix of foreboding, magical, and mysterious that hooks you in.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +6

      the dub is some wacky fun with a memorable intro! I think I liked the manga a lot in general but wherever it’s nostalgia or just the fun, I find myself watching the 4kids dub the most haha

  • @caspianbchalphy
    @caspianbchalphy 6 місяців тому +2

    Honestly, as a kid, the Shadow Realm stuff probably would’ve freaked me out more than the death and maiming stuff. As an adult i’d say the same thing lol.

  • @InvaderWeezle
    @InvaderWeezle Рік тому +38

    The manga is definitely my favorite form of Yu-Gi-Oh. It was the way the I experienced the final arc of the series for the first time, and I was appalled at how much the anime changed from it. Not to mention that Takahashi's art runs circles around the anime most of the time

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +3

      the manga truly was radical and wild, a fun ride from the beginning to end!

  • @ToaArcan
    @ToaArcan Рік тому +17

    I can't deny that, despite all the weirdness, I do love me some of the Dub-isms in Yu-Gi-Oh! Favourites including Literally Everything Kaiba Says.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +8

      Dub Kaiba is a vast mine of precious gems. The amount of fun that could be had just clipping the wild shit he says could just be it’s own video

  • @Tomarrak
    @Tomarrak 4 місяці тому +2

    Marik and Ishizu both explained that the spirit of the puzzle is an ancient pharaoh during battle city, so another thing the dub improved upon was the gang refers to the other Yugi as "the pharaoh" while the Japanese still calls him Yami Yugi up to the final season.

  • @TheDanishGuyReviews
    @TheDanishGuyReviews Місяць тому +1

    18:40 The bottle on the far left appear to have become a block of cheese. And the steam from the curry-gravyboat is thicker so it obscures the drunken redness of the man on the left of the heart-eyes guy.

  • @Bshadowz
    @Bshadowz Рік тому +238

    Ahhh YuGiOh the show that ruined me for real world RNG cuse when you believe in “Heart Of The Cards” anything is possible! 🤣

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +23

      When you don’t pray for good RNG because you’re RNJesus. Who needs a well built deck when every next card is the best card? haha

    • @magicalnewsmaneditsbumpers4374
      @magicalnewsmaneditsbumpers4374 Рік тому +7

      I legit believe that RNG is like stamina you can use it in bursts. I had a round of Mario party where I predicted the exact dice roll I needed, the fact there would be a hidden block on that space, and in addition I would receive the bonus star. All in one go.

    • @MeisterdiebKid
      @MeisterdiebKid Рік тому +4

      Dont foget friendship! Anything is possible with your friends! 😅

    • @Shugunou
      @Shugunou Рік тому +2

      Yugi can just play a 60-card deck (or infinity-card deck because there were no deck limits back then) while we have to play 40-card decks with consistency boosters in order to get the cards we need.

    • @Shugunou
      @Shugunou Рік тому

      ​@magicalnewsmaneditsbumpers4374 It kind of is. I used to find tons of four leaf clovers in my backyard. After that, I had horrible luck for over a decade. But recently, for the first time ever, I found a five leaf clover. I guess my luck just took a while to recover.

  • @DMTInfinity
    @DMTInfinity 10 місяців тому +2

    *Great video..!*

  • @mrkaji8913
    @mrkaji8913 5 місяців тому +2

    It reminds me of how teen titans 2003 censored so much of the 80’s comics even when it’s unnecessary and even take out stuff for no reason.

  • @troin3925
    @troin3925 2 місяці тому +1

    13:03 I love how they added an extra “ouch” to this scene to make it look like he survived. It turns it into a comedic moment.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Місяць тому

      I feel like they had to add it to meet their criteria for children but also realized it was really fucking funny. So much of the 4kids dub is just too funny to not be on purpose haha

    • @user-ls4vj7mp4b
      @user-ls4vj7mp4b Місяць тому

      ​@@DerfDeRoxBro why when yami is in his thoughts he talked like yugi?

  • @sebastian-benedictflore
    @sebastian-benedictflore 2 місяці тому

    Bro looks magnificent, majestic

  • @kevinsiver4780
    @kevinsiver4780 4 місяці тому +2

    These localization oddities videos are excellent. If you do decide to more this year, you should do one on Cardcaptor Sakura and how Nelvana broke it.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox 4 місяці тому +1

      I remember watching card captors as a kid! Recently I tried rewatching it and was blown away by how different it was from what I remember. I didn’t know it was made by Nelvana, never even heard of them! I’ll have to look more into it!

    • @kevinsiver4780
      @kevinsiver4780 4 місяці тому

      @@DerfDeRox Yeah, they changed a ton of stuff for the American localization. A lot of those changes were very controversial and for good reason.

  • @TheLastRaven666
    @TheLastRaven666 10 місяців тому +1

    Love the gundams u have there

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox 10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! I’ve collected so many but I’m such a slow builder haha maybe by my next video the shelf will have more of them

  • @thesnesgeek
    @thesnesgeek 3 місяці тому +2

    What does even have your mind banished to the Shadow realm even do? Do you just become a husk?

  • @cynshie
    @cynshie Рік тому +5

    Really interesting and well-researched video, thanks for making it. Enjoyed the personal touch as well and the tribute to the manga creator

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +2

      Thank you! I’m happy to hear you enjoyed it, it feels good to hear when the work pays off :D

  • @leviosdraekion6993
    @leviosdraekion6993 Рік тому +39

    I will always find it funny how in their attempts to make the show safer for kids they come up with a fate worse than death. In fact, the shadow realm might as well be hell or any equivalent to it.
    Some sort of alternate realm where your soul goes: check
    Most likely a nightmarish hellscape: check
    Suffer eternal torment while there: check

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +7

      Even if you didn’t suffer eternal torment, it would still be this weird lonely void for what could perceivably be forever? Like the phantom zone but somehow edgier. I guess other dimensional imprisonment is okay here. After all, this is the US and we do love our large prisons!

  • @bleedingroze
    @bleedingroze Рік тому +2

    4Kids Yugioh helped give us littlekuriboh’s Yugioh Abridged so totally worth it.

  • @HadenDA_sort_of
    @HadenDA_sort_of Рік тому +7

    That bit about you drawing your own cards as a kid hit me like a truck. I did the exact same thing to the point that I had a whole baggie of paper rectangles with my goofy doodles on them. There was no consistency in size.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому

      It makes me so happy to know I wasn’t the only one hahaha I had several decks of my own hand made terrible cards back in the day! And same, all slightly different sizes of rectangles cut out by a young me lmao

  • @0cellusDS
    @0cellusDS Рік тому +2

    4kids doing Yugioh Abridged before Yugioh Abridged

  • @samuelbrass4490
    @samuelbrass4490 Рік тому +114

    The manga is awesome, and no doubt the best way to experience Yu-Gi-Oh. Especially having grown up with the english dub. Its a trip for sure.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +19

      The manga was wild! Such a fun and strange read, I really do recommend it!

    • @NamruChannel
      @NamruChannel Рік тому +3

      The manga is quite unique. Idk how to describe it but it's the kind of artistic work that despite openly acknowledging it's not a masterpiece, I still believe everyone should read it.
      It's a shame how the manga seems to have been killed by its own success. It was so succesful that it inspired a card game, an anime adaptation (and franchise) that eventually stole the spotlight.
      Even today a lot of people (including weebs and all kinds of anime fans) look surprised when I tell them Yugioh WAS a manga at first, just like Dragon Ball or One Piece.

  • @jmace2424
    @jmace2424 Рік тому +2

    “Pegasus J Crawford” is so much less fabulous than “Maximillian Pegasus” 🤣

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому

      Feels too normal rich guy and not the flamboyant over the top rich guy that Maximillian Pegasus is

  • @Littlepup93
    @Littlepup93 16 днів тому

    I'm working my way through the manga, but I'm honestly very glad that when I watched the Duel Monsters anime, I watched it subbed. I originally was introduced to it through Season 0, because my sibling was having a hard time and that's what they wanted to watch to feel better. That kinda led them showing me all of Season 0 and the Duel Monsters and the respective movies.
    The English dub is a wealth of jokes and nostalgia though. I remember seeing episodes here and there growing up on TV, although I didn't follow it all that closely. I distinctly remember the Yami Yugi/Tea date at the beginning of season 2, namely the DDR and Yugi initially forcing a mind swap to push Atem out of the puzzle on the date. I didn't remember a lot else though, oddly enough, despite watching the show.

  • @chocoboko123
    @chocoboko123 Місяць тому +1

    Sometimes I actually enjoy the dub's weird, random dialogue changes with no clear purpose. Often in place of straight up exposition theyll have the characters joke around or make jabs at each other instead, which actually kind of makes them feel more like high school buddies instead of kingdom hearts characters talking about friendship. One particular odd change though was the part in season 2 where Yugi talks to Yami after Keith (controlled by Marik) steals the puzzle. In the original, Yugi asks Yami about who he is, and they have a conversation where Yami says he wants to stay with Yugi forever. Its an extremely sweet and touching scene that develops their relationship. But in the dub they changed it to Yugi wondering who Marik is and what he wants.

  • @marthflores3515
    @marthflores3515 Рік тому +2

    I had literal fear of going into the shadow realm that it wasnt even funny

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому

      They tried to remove death and instead instilled a new fear >.>

  • @meledisu
    @meledisu 4 місяці тому +1

    Actually grew up with this and dig it way more than the original Japanese dub.

  • @TDM1138
    @TDM1138 Рік тому +16

    Another great video! I remember discovering Season 0 one night with a friend after we’d just bought theme decks to play on a trip we were about to leave on. Must’ve been 2007, and I was late into my teenage years, but after watching a fair bit it was kind of surreal to see how different it was, and comparing it to the US version it came off especially dark.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +3

      Similar story here! A friend told me about some strange "proto yugioh" that was "crazy violent" a long time ago. It was a shocking discovery at the time but now it feels so tame haha

  • @TheSnake87
    @TheSnake87 8 місяців тому +1

    I grew up with the german dub of the 4kids version. I'm nearly through the sub version now and I must say it's soooo much better.

  • @thefoker6310
    @thefoker6310 Рік тому +4

    Underrated as hell. Amazing work!

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +2

      Thank you! I'll try to keep up the work as best I can! Always nice to hear when people enjoy what I make :D

    • @thefoker6310
      @thefoker6310 Рік тому +3

      @@DerfDeRox Keep up the good work! From the editing alone I can already see that you put a lot of research and effort into these videos.

  • @kidkouga92
    @kidkouga92 8 місяців тому +1

    Honestly not gonna lie, 4kids did a bang up job on this show because kid me had no idea and the shadow realm is still a meme to this day

  • @bills-beard
    @bills-beard Рік тому +14

    Such a great and respectful note to end on. He was also famously anti-authoritarian, having done at least one piece of ygo art rallying his fans to vote their conscience at the polls in japans 2019 PM election.

  • @carlycarmine3858
    @carlycarmine3858 Рік тому +56

    You should do this for each of the Yu-Gi-Oh series, there's weird edits in all of them

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +16

      I've never actually seen any of the other series aside from Season 0 and Duel Monsters, so I think that would be a fun idea to dive into! I'd be able to see them fresh for the first time and compare without nostalgia goggles haha

    • @carlycarmine3858
      @carlycarmine3858 Рік тому +3

      @@DerfDeRox I think you'll like GX, it's pretty good

  • @darkfent
    @darkfent Рік тому +2

    Thanks to the dub, we got LittleKuriboh

  • @masam9700
    @masam9700 9 місяців тому +1

    I get WHY they censored the guns, but even as a kid I was just like "huh...kind of odd that he's just pointing at em like that"

  • @cartooncoreyofficial
    @cartooncoreyofficial Рік тому +2

    10/10 video! the order of each change is perfect! Video flows very well

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому

      Thank you! It took a good amount of time to make, but it was quite fun! Happy to hear it turned out well!

  • @luxerhusku2609
    @luxerhusku2609 Місяць тому

    I actually like the story change of Yugi having to face his Dark side as it doesnseem from the Manga and the Toei animations, Dark Yugi was pretty much killed or olayed his victims to where it can be seen as too much from Yugi. Having Dark Yugi to focus on winning the game and not caring about Kaiba committing suicide at the Duelist Kingdom arc really shows the two different sides of one caring for his friends and enemies whike the other really thinks more of "survival of the fittest". That translates prettt well with Dark Yugi's duel with Mai; this misplays and the back to back arguments between the two Yugi sets up a nice conclusion for Dark Yugi to understand how Yugi feels for a lot of people; to be kind. Something that Dark Yugi didn't understand back then.

  • @DragonmasterSK
    @DragonmasterSK Рік тому +11

    I just returned to Yu-Gi-Oh a few weeks ago. It's given me so much and I thank God for Takahashi's work. My life is Definitely better because of Yu-Gi-Oh. I've learned very important life lessons and become a better person because of it. Right now I'm on a quest for retro Yu-Gi-Oh and I'm collecting Japanese and Duel Monsters era stuff. If I get back to uploading videos I'll be more than glad to share them with you guys. I loved your video, thank you

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +2

      Growing up with it certainly made an impact on my life, it’s just something I never thought about until I made the video! Collecting retro cards sounds fun but difficult! I wish you luck in your endeavors! also, thank you! It took a lot of time but I’m always happy to hear when people enjoy one of my works :D

    • @DragonmasterSK
      @DragonmasterSK Рік тому +1

      @@DerfDeRox Definitely. You won me over. Keep it up, my friend

  • @mrkaji8913
    @mrkaji8913 5 місяців тому +1

    20:56 that sounds like serenity’s Jp name

  • @SomeRandomJackAss
    @SomeRandomJackAss Рік тому +15

    To be fair, the manga really tries to sell you the various games they play in it, too. Takahashi clearly put a lot of thought into each game that was played, and would explain in great detail the mechanics and rules. So, while the card game kind of grew beyond him, he probably took a great deal of pride in so many people enjoying a game that he basically created from scratch.

  • @WizTis
    @WizTis Рік тому +1

    I remeber buying the first japanese packs that came out at our local shop...good times

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому

      that’s cool! we never got Japanese packs so most of my friends had to wait until the card game was ported to the US :/

  • @fruit3193
    @fruit3193 3 місяці тому +1

    In many ways, Duel Monsters is a different show in the dub. It's crazy how different it is.

  • @LunaTheUmbreon322
    @LunaTheUmbreon322 2 місяці тому

    i can confirm this is still the case for every single series

  • @geovanniramos9112
    @geovanniramos9112 Рік тому +2

    Great content!! Thank you

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +1

      Thank YOU for watching and being so kind and cool :D

  • @EvaristoH
    @EvaristoH Рік тому +2

    JP Keith: Gun
    DUB Keith: Hand
    MANGA Keith: Hand is Gun
    going full circle there

  • @EverIight
    @EverIight Рік тому +2

    “Originally was going to be a horror manga”
    That explains so much lol, some of the stuff in that manga was hardcore, from knife fights in alleyways to being chased by weird chainsaw massacre-esque monsters

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому

      in some ways, it still is a horror story haha

  • @Tomarrak
    @Tomarrak 4 місяці тому +1

    17:04 to expand on this the 4kids dub actually fleshed out Yugi far more than the Japanese series. In the dub whenever Atem took over to duel his inner monologue is Yugi's voice, adding a huge level of compassion, that in the finale Atem comments upon saying that he gained compassion from Yugi because of this. In the Japanese version the inner monologue is simply Atem unless you see Yugi's spirit beside him to communicate.

  • @ripleyandweeds1288
    @ripleyandweeds1288 Рік тому +12

    My favorite example of how the anime and then the 4Kids dub toned down the violence of the original manga is Yami Bakura's duel with Bonz. In the 4Kids dub he sends Bonz and his two flunkies to the shadow realm when they lose, in the original anime he sends them to Hell, in the manga he just straight up fucking kills them.
    Also the fact that both the original anime and 4Kids dub just completely ignore the part of Marik's backstory where his father was skinned alive, which is the most understandable admission if I'm being honest.

  • @xlovur
    @xlovur Рік тому +1

    really enjoying your videos!

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +1

      I’m really enjoying your comment! But seriously, thank you! I appreciate it :D

  • @HughAverageHomoMan
    @HughAverageHomoMan Рік тому +11

    I find 4Kids localizations/dubs incredibly interesting because it seems like they used to be a lot more fair with what they cut/changed, but as the years went on it got more or more low quality and exaggerated when it came to edits and voice acting.

  • @MrEffectfilms
    @MrEffectfilms Рік тому +4

    Duel Monsters Sub is my preferred way to enjoy the series.

  • @whitgreuber
    @whitgreuber Рік тому +1

    Thanks for making this video. Lots of fun to see some of the differences.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому

      Thank you for watching it! It was fun to watch the show and see all the weird or silly changes! Happy people are enjoying it!

  • @josephbedwell3164
    @josephbedwell3164 3 місяці тому +1

    Are we not gonna discuss how dark this got once Duel Monsters became the central focus. Yugi straight up killed Panik via asphyxiation.

  • @devontehuntley6274
    @devontehuntley6274 11 місяців тому +3

    Despite the many changes, this is one of the rare times an edited dub still WORKS because of everything else it brought to the table, good voice acting, good music, memorable theme songs, humor, and still being entertaining. Also, 4Kids got through all of the episodes and didn't cut any out as they would unfortunately do with GX and 5Ds. They also expanded on things better or earlier like with the backstory of the millennium items than the Japanese version did to get a clue of what the true story angle was, which is shocking given how early they were. The original version only debuted a year before they got a hold of the dub so its remarkable how much they knew of the show to add in these details that worked out in the end. You can tell they had more luxury with the violence early on because death was straight out mentioned such as in the first duel between Bakura and Yugi where the characters find themselves as duel monsters. Tristan sees his grave and screams out that he was dead. Also, the Yugi and panik duel where Yugi was threatened to be engulfed with fire....like come on. No bit of that was censored and you even had Tea screaming how he was going to be burnt to a crisp after Yugi won the duel. Speaking of fire, in Season 5 when Zorc is destroying the Egyptian city, 4Kids enhanced the fire to look more deadly and real than in the original version, which many likely did not notice. Take a good look at that if you have a chance. The Ghost Kaiba change was clever and ties back to the first episode and further explores the mystic elements of the show. IT WORKS so the hate on that is ridiculous. Yes, the dub has its faults particularly during fight scenes and with the guns. The skirt thing was always odd to me because Tea was still shown wearing high skirts for them to care about Mai most of the time and Jessie on Pokémon had a high skirt that was never lengthen down so that was weird how other characters weren't given the same luxury. Of course, the dub could have been better. With the dub names and music, the shadow realm aspect, the little tid bits of further backstory thrown in, changes that in fact worked with the show, but with all the guns and fight scenes kept intact and regular duel punishments not involving the shadow realm aspect such as the Lumis and Umbra one which does come off silly, this dub would have SOARED better than maybe even the original show. There are things 4Kids did that truly made the show better I would have not liked to have missed out on, but some of the original story and violence content I wish could have remained. Maybe if the show wasn't being aimed to young kids and was more of a Toonami thing, we could have had that. But hey, the dub was better than what was done with GX and 5Ds which really got the short end of the stick in both dubbing and 4Kids need to not care about the shows enough to finish them. For that huge box set Konami released about ten years back with the dub, I would have had it be a remastered version restoring some of the original violence cut out with added dub lines and sound effects mashed in with the original dub stuff. Not necessarily a redub, but close to an uncut version we would ever get...a more enhanced version if you will. For example, someone posted the original Bandit Keith scene where he is holding a gun at Pegasus but with the dub dialogue and music spliced in. That is what I am talking about, just restoring some of that without necessarily having to redub to make due....something they did try to do but would have been way too much work going through a whole show again. Not sure how Funimation was able to do that so easily with the Dragonball shows, but I would not have wanted to go through a whole show again.

  • @gesi7072
    @gesi7072 7 місяців тому

    I became an avid Manga version fan over everything else ever since i read it in Shonen Jump NA. I bought every volume once they were released individually. It was cool to see the story the anime never even touched in the states and it was far more interesting. RIP Takahashi

  • @wyattr7982
    @wyattr7982 7 місяців тому +1

    As a kid watching GX i was so confused as to why they were chugging hot sauce from the bottle

  • @bryantjimenez9254
    @bryantjimenez9254 11 місяців тому +1

    I’ve seen Yugioh in English, Spanish and Japanese. So it’s my favorite anime

  • @mr.wardensworkshop
    @mr.wardensworkshop Рік тому +1

    Good video. Well done.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому

      Thank you! It’s a fun hobby for me but it’s great to hear others enjoy the videos :D I’m surprised so many people watched!

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 Рік тому +2

    12:27 Hey remember in the 1951 animated adaptation of Alice in Wonderland when the Queen of Hearts wanted Alice beheaded? The time when Bambi's mom got shot and killed? The time when Scar murdered Mufasta and then tried to do it again to Simba? Gaston gathered an angry mob to kill The Beast and had a gun. Clayton had a gun and wanted to kill the gorillas. Percival C. McLeach from Rescuers Down Under was a straight up poacher, also with a gun. The pilgrims wanted to murder the Powhatan tribe and vice versa. The pilgrims had guns. Also Frodo lusted for Esmeralda and blamed gypsy magic for it (Sloth) and decided to murder (Wrath) the gypsies (with fire! Hellfire! By fire be purged!) because he wanted her to be his alone but she didn't want him (Pride, Greed, Gluttony, Envy and Lust).

  • @007blond
    @007blond Рік тому +1

    bruh i cant get over how everyone with guns end up just being like
    👁️👄👁️👉
    in the 4kids version lmfao

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому

      Pointing menacingly will do the trick!

  • @ntsazazel
    @ntsazazel Рік тому +1

    The Woman in green on the side of the Spy-C-Spy card also seems to have had a minor wardrobe change

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому

      good eye! I didn’t notice!

  • @MetalJordy
    @MetalJordy 4 місяці тому +2

    I truly love the English dub

  • @SansINess53
    @SansINess53 11 місяців тому +2

    The arabic version of yugi oh gets a plus for getting the mai vs yugi battle right.

  • @dakotastein9499
    @dakotastein9499 3 місяці тому +1

    Imagine working for marik only for him to command you to beat the hell out of him.

  • @HorkSupreme
    @HorkSupreme Рік тому

    Stan Weston? *Looks at picture* Hmm, checks early life.... undefeated.

  • @sunnybhai1904
    @sunnybhai1904 Рік тому +2

    This was a fantastic little doc about the show. Thanks for sharing! Was not prepared for the handsomeness at the end of the video.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому

      Thank you, that's very kind of you! haha I always love making stuff but I'm always nervous putting my works and face out there

  • @kimjongoof5000
    @kimjongoof5000 4 місяці тому +1

    I also want to mention that the English dub of Yu-Gi-Oh also replaced a lot of the Japanese sound effects with western sound effects. My guess is to make the show feel less alien to viewers by adding sound effects western audiences are familiar with in cartoons like TMNT and Scooby Doo

  • @loli_cvnt5622
    @loli_cvnt5622 Рік тому +1

    I find it hilarious that Revolver Monster is censored but it's America. Kids go to Walmart.

  • @shinydino
    @shinydino Рік тому +8

    I grew up playing the card game (not very well) and watching the 4Kids anime dub, but I also rented Yu-Gi-Oh! manga from my local library and even own some of them to this day. I remember being fascinated with the lack of Duel Monsters in some of the earlier books as well as the Marik vs. Bakura duel in Battle City. I was never sure what to think of the pre-DM stuff like the Death T arc because it had no equivalent in the anime or anywhere else on shelves. I think younger me just assumed that it was an alternate universe or something. Man, those books bring back memories of when Tamagotchi was still popular. Ancient times.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +4

      Nostalgia is one hell of a drug, isn’t it? But it’s always fun to look back at youthful memories and remember how our eyes used to see the world and how we enjoyed it. I remember trying to reconcile manga vs anime back then while cleaning my Tamagotchi’s poop haha

  • @saklee1777
    @saklee1777 2 місяці тому

    24:20 I have read all the manga, watched all of season 0, and watched all of duel monsters dub. I love seeing kaiba grow over time in the manga, but season 0 might be my fav.

  • @Slychosis.
    @Slychosis. Рік тому +1

    I cant wait to see which ones next loving this series! Keep it up man, youre killin’ it!

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I got halfway through my next video and got sick about a month ago. Somehow I’ve been sick for a full month, I’m starting to think I should’ve gone to see a doctor :p But hopefully I’ll finish editing sooner rather than later!

    • @Slychosis.
      @Slychosis. Рік тому

      @@DerfDeRox take your time 🙏🏼

    • @Slychosis.
      @Slychosis. 5 місяців тому +1

      @@DerfDeRoxdid you pull through?

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox 5 місяців тому

      Haha, yes, thank you for checking in. Now I just have to fight how busy life is and get more time in the editor to finish the next video! I've got half of a One Piece video done, but it's hard to get some of the older footage from lost dubs. @sis.

  • @Teifling
    @Teifling Рік тому +1

    Honestly, excusing the bad uses of it(Loomis and Umbra being the most egregious) the idea of the Shadow Realm was terrifying. Having your mind/soul ripped to a parallel hell while your body either goes comatose, is a zombie, or is "you" but possessed sounded like nightmare fuel.

  • @DasAlternativeEnde
    @DasAlternativeEnde Рік тому +2

    Censored Gambling but then selling gambling to kids.

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому +1

      apparently cardboard crack is okay and they got me hooked young

  • @mg5347
    @mg5347 Рік тому

    18:29
    Wine glass in his hand
    Cigar
    Thigh and clevege on the woman in red
    Left bottle of wine is now food and right is juice?
    Woman in green has clevege hidden
    Man no longer has heart eyes

  • @Soonhun
    @Soonhun 8 місяців тому

    Having only ever watched the first anime arc and Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged, I did not know so much of the plot

  • @toooes
    @toooes Рік тому +2

    15:13 both saws are spinning in the wrong direction. The grain on the cuts is gonna be so fxd

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому

      a craftsmen I see! It’s the little details that make things work isn’t it?

  • @animeknight8958
    @animeknight8958 Рік тому

    Thanks to the original dub now showing up, whenever i watch both yugioh and yugioh gx, the edit scenes mase scene

  • @JustJulyo
    @JustJulyo Рік тому +1

    I love season 0

  • @aznpikachu215
    @aznpikachu215 Рік тому +3

    With the censorship issues, Eric Stuart has said it's not a 4kids thing, it's the FCC thing.
    Would you consider talking about the uncut version dub? This was a nice talk.

  • @mattlandry
    @mattlandry Рік тому +1

    Great video!

    • @DerfDeRox
      @DerfDeRox Рік тому

      thank you! I’m happy to hear you enjoyed it :D

  • @pengwin_
    @pengwin_ Рік тому +5

    The Manga has a real "The Spectre" feel to it with how the Dark yugi delivers just deserts to evil people.