Microsoft Metaverse vs Facebook Metaverse (Watch the reveals)
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2021
- Microsoft's Satya Nadella recently showcased his companys's foray into the Metaverse at its Ignite conference. This comes on the heels of Facebook's recent Connect conference when Mark Zuckerberg announced he is changing its name to Meta, short for Metaverse.
See how both CEOs are moving full steam ahead with VR technologies that they hope will make it possible to collaborate easier in this digital space. - Наука та технологія
I like how the Microsoft guy calls it “metaworse”
lol...that's what I keep hearing too!
I listen the same...
💯😂🤜🤛🤣💯
I like Microsoft but that was so really epic!
Came here to say the same thing
"Which Metaworse is Worse?" ... better video title
Thanks man. Had a good laugh on this.
To be fair MS looks like a proof of concept, while Mark's meta looks more like a CGI trailer.
basically Microsoft is SpaceX and Facebook is Blue Origin
They both look like an episode of Blue's Clues.
The infantile-ization of society is depressing.
@@peterbelanger4094 can we stop this already. Use the tech as a tool, you will be fine. Just don't get addicted to it.
@@ravitejaknts Nvidia's Omniverse is likley going to look so much better than these cartoony concepts.
@@pandagamingdon how do u know for sure?
These presentations are as souleless as a balance sheet
What's scary is they think it's brilliant and some of the posts here seem to agree. I can't believe how lame things are getting.
@@robertnicholls9917 Extremely lame... Selling something no on needs..
Talking about leavinb your reality! To be 'present' - yup!
Makes sense...
Obviously something sinister lay ahead
Because that's what big tech wants you to be. A souless profit machine.
@@robertnicholls9917 just dont buy it then. Doesn’t affect you
@@wholesomelad4699 I think it affects society indirectly, as people are indoctrinated by ideas of a few people who don't care about them.
But, to an extent, you're right. It's not my lane and as long as it doesn't impede my lane, who cares?
I can see Microsoft focusing more on perfecting the Facebook's Horizon Workspace-like services and cater it to businesses and enterprises while Facebook focuses more on the social/entertainment side of things within the Metaverse.
Just fb hater lol no reason but hate
Factual. Meta verse is dangerous. Hackers are already out here stealing people information. Meta verse is a whole new platform that anybody can still hack into and steal pretty much all your info. And know everything about you. Secrets where you live.. this is horrrible. I don’t have social media bc of this.... I been harassed an stalked on Reddit an UA-cam. I can’t imagine the meta verse
@@jshaka3769 how? No one can hack such places unless they are literal god.
@@stewbanker troll account.
@@jshaka3769 tf? This is my main bud. The name and the PFP is weird but its just funny, thats why its there? Seems like you actually never had social media that much.
Zuckerbergs animation has more expressions than the "human" one.
Hes not human mate
@@jamie3226 That's why i put quotation marks dude.
@@shahzaibshah2920 good thing youre aware lol
@@jamie3226 Zuck tries his best to look like us. :( Appreciated
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A digital place where everything you say is literally a data that is being processed. Your secrets shared among friends, work plans, ideas and visions. This is an eye.
Who cares?
@@silverecho1201 you may don't care now. but eventually you will.
The all seeing eye. The image in revelation.
what secrets? you are over 40? who has secrets these days?
What is an eye? This? This is UA-cam bruh.. u on UA-cam comment section.
I like how Mark looks like a virtual construct when he is present in person.
loll
I literally thought he was virtual for the first 27 minutes of him talking on that one hour video he made until I saw his avatar form in that robot scene
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Microsot: here is what our avatars look and work.
Mark: imagine how our avatars will look and work.
It looks like a children's video game.
They are actually trying to sell this to adults?
@@peterbelanger4094 ?
@@peterbelanger4094 explain peter
@@peterbelanger4094 It's about the feature. Design style can be changed later. The tech is important and hard to build.
@@peterbelanger4094 in a way, they don’t need to sell this to adults
Remember Facebook Event was just a trailer that mostly CGI concept trailer of the unreleased Mixed Reality Hardware. But Microsoft is purely what the actual footage.
I believe more in the Facebook one tho
Very true. Microsoft's is closer to reality.
@@Alvaro-rq8sn disgusting
Thats what i find so annoying about the Facebook meta trailer, just empty words.
The Meta event was a lot more interesting, though.
Microsoft seems to be more focused on what can happen now, which I like. In contrast, Meta seems to focus on what *will* come in the future. For that reason, I prefer Microsoft's approach.
I would love for this to be more accessible for folks who can’t move such as quadriplegics, ASL patients, etc. My dad was “quad” and lived 4 hours away from me but we would have loved to hang out in the metaverse together. That would have been such an amazing tool for him.
yet this is also useless for any blindness disorder, migraine, or epilepsy. I can see it having uses, but I can also see some big accessibility lawsuits if this becomes a workplace must. It's entirely vision based.
"You know I had to be the robot"
"I thought I was supposed to be the robot"
He knows exactly what he's doing 😂
Aaaa i didn't catch that before
That's meta
😂😂😂😂💯
those who write the script know what they are doing
Yeah i did catch that too... 😄
Mark's avatar looks more human then the real one. Still very disturbing
Indeed synthetic people and world
Yes, when the real one’s eyes look like its complete psycopath, so Mark does not look like much real human, while he is rich billionare that own about 100 billion dollars, but Mark avatar looks more real, when its eyes aint as psycopath as the real Marks eyes are.
Nooooo lol 😂
I find him hot. lol
marks avatar is an animated video not the actual app running. its like microsoft showing us halolens back in 2010
Microsoft looks to be several years ahead with working concepts. Facebook has a movie trailer.
For me the Metaverse isnt as exciting as they make it seem to me. For me if you want to be in that type of world, you will still feel bound by your real world. For example the avatar flipping in space... she is literally sitting somewhere at home while that is happening. I dont know... Im not sold. If you cant 'feel' , 'smell' or 'taste' something in the metaverse... then its still very 2d and you are looking through a VR headset etc. Also.... why the massive push to get everyone into a 'game' themed world? Metaverse just reminds me of another social game really. I dont know... Too many thoughts in my head about this lol
the same argument was used for video games, social media, and online shopping years ago. Look at the present we live in. It's not about being equal to the real world, it's about having enough resemblance to pretend that it's real, while being infinitely more convenient and addictive
well they say there also working on that like haptic gloves and somwthin
I mean... technically, you can taste and smell, and with haptics you definitely can feel it, but I understand what you mean. But the whole point is not to equal real life, because if that were the case, there wouldn't be massive robots and dystopian settings, the point is to be close enough to be "in" the space but with heightened stylized factors. You don't need to physically float to have fun in a 0 gravity space. You don't need to be physically punched to understand that you need to avoid it. It's a flatscreen experience where you are in full control, not a downgraded real life copy
They want us detached from reality. They want the real world for themselves.😈😈😈😈😈😈
The metaverse is trying ar on the Facebook meta combined with vr so it's gonna be the way I want it lol lighter vr headset and ability to use it longer
Finally, playing YU-GI-OH with scenery!
Damn that means Nintendo has been 10 steps ahead investing in Nantiac, Pokemon Go and TCG.
@@343ishill Damn right! Gaming is getting cooler by the day!!!!
I can imagine summoning Exodia in there
thats was i think lmao
And the device explodes if you lose a shadow game
Facebook's metaverse is basically the OASIS from Ready Player One
Yeah, but I am thinking about the graphical power that would be required to achieve such detailed world.
Even if they use cloud streaming, lag would still be present as not everyone has fast internet.
The Facebook demo is dishonest as it doesn't show constant ads and product placements intruding into your immersive personalized experience.
@@BerwinSingh just wait till starlink
@@BerwinSingh foveated rendering will help a lot
@@toddbeets bro? You see ads in the real world all the time, on billboards and stuff, do they ruin your life?
Honestly, I wasn’t a believer in metaverse technology until I saw Microsoft’s take. At first it just seemed like Roblox on steroids. I think Microsoft is better suited to pull this off since they can easily tap into their hardware and software synergies. I use Teams literally everyday all day so it would be cool to have a more “real” experience where you can walk around and network somewhat naturally.
Facebook created a big website.
Hahaha exactly.
My initial reaction was "Mark wants to bring us all into a Disney/Pixar movie, does he think the vast majority of people want that?"
Exactly. Facebooks wants this because they only have a big website. Well, some big websites.
Meta also has Oculus under its umbrella and the Quest 2 is the most successful VR device to date. So, I think both companies have some leverage in software and hardware they can use to build their vision. I don't know who will succeed though.
That one from 8:00 looks so cool, I hope they will make this available for everybody
"I was supposed to be the robot"
Zucc The meta
Someone needs to edit Tommy Wiseau into that poker game with Zuckerberg. "OH HI MARK"
Mark is like giving mere conceptual presentation while MS is presenting concepts with prototype..
Can anyone explain to me why they use "joysticks" on VR instead of a glove? Is It so big of a tec problem?
it is funny because there is no commentary on this video, it is just a comparison. At first glance marks presentation seems more fun and future driven, but man microsoft knows how to be professional. It is a really good presentation.
VR Amazon Warehouse 21.30 work from home seasonal opportunity ? - hypothetical
Exactly
So if I rob a bank in the “meta-verse” I get a life jail sentence in real life?
bro i cant get that if im going to park in metaverse people sees me ?
No you’ll just to jail in the metaverse lol
You’ll be in Facebook jail
Watch out for those MetaCops 👮♂️
@@lucious890 where everyone is in the same cell!
Videos like this remind of how simple people are and how the right spokesperson is key to everything.
huh?
I need to get better at public speaking, so i'm curious as to what you mean
@@dhdyrjfmenrydka haha! I like to speak in code. But what I was saying is that Facebook (Meta) can bolster its bad press with the right representative. Some people have a love/hate relationship with Zuckerberg and I almost wonder, what if he was not the face of the company? He’s a smart guy but every now and then, I just wonder. This is me putting my PR hat on btw.
@@dhdyrjfmenrydka thanks for the reply!
@@JAXTWIN oh ok I see what u mean. Yeah, just like how Jeff Bezos stepped down. I think it would make sense, zuckerburg just has a huge ego lol
Do I have to buy a new headset or my valve index compatible? I hate outdoors.
Me watching the demo: "Hey Microsoft, there's no legs or pants in the metaverse?" Microsoft: "Where we're going, we don't need legs or pants." Mark: "Ha ha ha, I'm a robot! Beeboopbeeeeep!"
I think its more like "you dont need sexual organs!"
Bruh it's still under development after 10 years it will be more realistic
Hahahahahha
XD
dey gunna takes away my pee pee oh mah gudz 😭 its will come back when i take off glasses????? 😱
I'd say Facebook's presentation feels more like a Ready Player One futuristic vision, while Microsoft feels a little more corporate and microsofty. I still hate Facebook though so whatever. Microsoft is just really bad at marketing to mainstream audiences.
I don’t think they’re trying to. Microsoft targets corporate sector first, because that’s what they’re already integrated into. It sounds businessy because they’re trying to offer business solutions, and “mainstream” users are just a bonus.
I’d disagree on the last part. Microsoft literally owns Xbox and other consumer products, it’s just that this isn’t intended for consumers
@@raracool6531 Microsoft has different subdivisions and executives.
@@raracool6531 I would argue that Xbox and their consumer products are not as important to them as their enterprise applications that are scaled and used in almost all companies across the globe
@@raracool6531 They did say they’re going to be working with gaming metaverse as well, Halo for 1. It ain’t just for business, but perhaps multiple audiences.
I like that bookstand in the back, does anyone know where to get it?
i love how the zucc has embraced the robot meme
Metaverse sounds like a lot of data and machines. More money for the tech companies to create unnecessary stuff to keep people and industries to spend. Good job. I would rather walk my real dog in the real park while eating a real ice cream than spending time in this meta.
Yeah metaverse is like real life but fake, more boring, more expensive, more braincells running away. Srsly real sunlight gives Vitamins, natural green color is relaxing, fresh air is relaxing, real dogs are fun, real interaction with real friends increases your social skills, real life travelling increases your sense of accomplishment, idk why this thing have to exist...
A boomer would say
@@Abdi-libaax By someone who doesn't have a real friends would say "boomer"
Everything in the world will be a digital asset and the limitations and physical constraints on production, supply chain logistics, labor laws etc., will not exist there. Imagine the money that will be made. The data being collected alone will be invaluable. It will be used to train Ai that will learn exactly how to manipulate the majority of people in the metaverse.
I will use it to fly over Newyork with my virtual wings :D
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Shaq also said this!
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Change alone is not enough, it should be change for the better of overall humanity. I'm highly sceptical of any of these big companies specifically Facebook to create anything that would fit that narrative.
'Which are morally good for the world and its future'*
i still can't figure out how is it different from vr chat with some added corporate software
I will finally be as tall as everyone else in the room. Awesome
Expect that is fake lol!
@@mnmartin73 Well, the human brain is stupid and can't tell fact from fiction most of the time. So it doesn't really matter.
"This is so real" as they are floating bodies without legs. Lol
@Zero Bytes gold comment //
Legs are not family friendly.
Full body tracking costs on average ~$1000 or more and is most often just not supported because why would it be.
@@alissaswan5060 i guess that makes sense. Lol.
@@alissaswan5060 A "metaverse" something that's advertised as *the future of the internet* should at least be expandable with such features tbh... otherwise it's pretty much just a gimmick that will be outdated before it even launches (which it will probably be)
We don't need any Matrix. We don't want Skynet. They are going so too with that... What we do need are real people, with their mistakes, virtues and emotions!
Real people? Lmao
@Tsots loot You still think real people exists in this planet everyone is fake lmao
I want the Matrix. It's a natural part of human evolution
The real people are in VR. They left the NPC's behind to wander around saying crazy things.
Ok person who only references popular 90s movies.
This is scary… First it was Facebook that asked to identify people ´s faces in the pictures you posted, therefore, providing this info to governments freely. Now, to finish it, they want us to teach their AI to identify not only faces, but how you think, what makes you choose this over that or how you plan for the future by making the choices you make. Scary indeed.
I feel there is value in the Metaverse I guess in the corporate space. If it matures where it's simple, and offers something more than what conferencing can do. I really don't feel like jumping into the metaverse in a personal context. I'm not sure if we need more technology pervading our personal lives, it just doesn't seem naturally healthy.
You right. But you should think about how much people, especially not very wealthy, likes to play games and donate. Its not because they’r living in a shitholes. In games they are can experience something they cannot feel in real life, so they are ready to pay thousands in virtual world for pixels. For example Russian GTA RP makes about 100k bucks per month. So, i think you can make profit of owning the area, or some sort of product in metaverse.
Remember, you will own nothing and you will be happy.
Sigma
happy only when wearing the headset?
@@mnmartin73 yes
Sounds like something Jesus Christ would say
Yay! Happy!
I can’t feel my legs.” I said, “Bubba, they ain’t there.”
apocalypse 2 revelation movie
Imagine going for shopping virtually and getting it shipped home , instead of lookin at hard to imagine photos on a webshop
What kind of computing power is needed for these?
1:25 let me find something to wear ended up with the same, perfect!
5:40 if you’re video chatting whats the point if the avatar? I don’t think I want too talk to a cartoon in a business meeting
I see this as a good excuse to not prepare how I look for the meeting. Bedhead, not washing my zombie fatigued face, going commando. Better for the user. Although I get your point, it seems unauthentic/ not personal. Basically, a mask to reality. But I can be a Jojo character by day in meetings and play as a waifu by night.
Eh- better than the PJs I attend most virtual business meetings in.
Tristan Harris said some people wanted to get plastic surgery to look like the filtered pictures on Instagram.
They may pretend I didn't say it, the cartoon said it. So journalists can not argue face to face, what was being said or quoted... its interesting way of gaslighting or avoiding regulations.
@@blessedowo1958 Stopping time working be like: ZA WARUDO
The cup of coffee in the virtual world made me think of matrix "do you think that's air your breathing neo?"
Is it necessary to get your true image replaced by a 3D avatar or CGI thing?
Waiting for Google, Apple and Huawei versions of this..
Gosh.... Don't even say anything.
Ooof. Tbh I dont wait for it :/
@Lytening Elon has also announced that he will also create a metaverse
Huawei version? I don't even
waiting for a non profit version of this...
I Don't know what our future holds but you can't deny that there will be a day that people will look back at a smart phone devices and think how silly we were for using that ancient technology when we could have easily transported our consciousness through quantum networks connected to every single inch of our universe
Does this mean the GPU supply chain issues have been fixed?
no lol
Not a chance. See you in 2023. And you may as well pay the high prices from an actual retailer as they are only going to get worse, and stay high.
Next years top end cards are already estimated to start from $1,800 - $2,000
Nope
hahahah... that's a good one!... xD
There's something about Microsoft's that feels more "real", and it's definitely more informative.
Though, I don't like the idea of being in a Metaverse controlled by a huge company at all, don't get me wrong.
Both of them look so cartoony. Need Ubisoft etc to enter this arena
Maybe rockstar
@@WilliamMevon I was just thinking of that (them using rockstar).
"this doesn't just feel real, it is real"
No. No it isn't.
It is tho😐
well, technically, it is
Well, even our 3D reality isnt really real per se..everything consists of atoms and balls of vibrating energy that takes shape once we put our attention to it/or in a certain direction. Our consciousness is the real reality cos that's where our imagination creates..."our thoughts creates our reality". There are infinite timelines, we shift daily to different timelines with different outcomes, etc when our consciousness creates a new thought. Our universe is not as black and white as "there is only one reality".
But regarding your physical activity you have mentioned, for 2 years that's what most peoples lives were/are since the pandemic and businesses going online and employees working from home. So.....
@Fatima Barsokova Well, none of those products are even close to being the metaverse anyways.
I will create a metaverse inside the metaverse. Metametaverse.
What are tools we need to learn for Metaverse, that can be really helpful in the future...something related to e-commerce. Anyone please recommend
Getting closer to living in a real life black mirror episode
I wonder how fast the storage is gonna run out so you have to continue upgrading…
Something that excites me again after ATARI, Nintendo, Sega and PlayStation first generations.
Taking data collection into a whole new level.
i like how mark switch 4diffrent cloth just come back to the same one and instantly call it perfect
*tear in my eyes* this is what I was born to work on
OMG This with combination with 'Metahero scaners' would be awsome!!! 😲😲😲😲😲
Where are all the ad's.
What !!? We can hear background audio arnt we doing this in videogames for years like just bc we put on a virtual headset dosent make it different
Reject the term “Metaverse” to reject this change, use the word “Nexus” as a name for digital universes
They're both cringe terms
@@af8808 wonderful 👏 Your contribution to this dilemma is noted
@@Cloudaddy220 There's no dilemma
@@af8808 you’re really killin it with the wisdom over here AF. Always Fire. Spittin facts on the daily. Yeahh
@@Cloudaddy220 cringe
Finally i can pose as a white avatar and get respect from my colleagues
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Lmao
Lol
I could make myself taller to lol
Levels the play field? Are they donating the equipment to everyone so we can all log on?
I had a vision that all these people had made a special surprise birthday party in this big birthday world they made for me, and this just deja vu'd me to back to it. Crazy
This just makes me uncomfortable and anxious.. i know they gonna force like something we can't live without but i hope everyone just ignores it
Art and crafts movement then comes modernism. I wonder how this will play out. But I don't want a matrix. I want more nature more IRL. I feel IRL will soon be commodified, where real life experiences will only accessed by the rich.
@@amlecciones a lot of those experiences already are. Many people don't even have passports. Some have never been on a plane. Some have never left their neighborhoods.
We should reject this future and embrace a future where people can experience the joy of life. All this stuff is geared toward more consumerism. We don't need more stuff.
Me too! It sound scary.
If they come out with sword art online without real life killing I'm down
Same, thats what i mostly want out of this
Make a program that shots a shotgun when you die
“Hey Jason, what I love is how our lips are out synch with speech and which coach potato really needs legs?”
Let’s be honest, it’s no Icelandverse
I think Microsoft will start trying to market to businesses and then slowly transfer to gaming like the computer did.
vr alrady exist, you can't compare it to computers as something like a computer didn't even exist before it was created.
My favorite part of this video is when the dude said Meta Worse
7:05 My avatar will be Ralph Wiggum. And I'll kick off every meeting with, 'I'm a torso.'
"I bent my wookie!"
Who made this mark character? Anyone know?
Did anybody immediately think of the digital afterlife resort "Horizen" from the series UPLOAD on Amazon when he spoke of "Horizon" & "Horizon Home"??
"Microsoft Metaworse" - Satya Nadella
Next: sims 5: metaverse
...sims 5 will get multiplayer they said, even more excited about it now than on this ''metaverse''.
This is just the start to something much greater 👀
Facebook's Metaverse seems way cooler, but I have a feeling that businesses will always choose Microsoft. A cool idea would be, big companies to cooperate and create one metaverse.
Creating one metaverse is exactly what's happening. Facebook and Microsoft are just a part of it like they're a part of the current internet.
@@crazy10bears Since everything is in the cloud I would say yes but no for inter-operability. Except they build together on the same interfaces
Mark shows what his metaverse "will look like" and "we are a long ways off"
San at MSFT shows what his is actually like in action through team.
I think that's all you need to know for now.
The feels like a prequel to the matrix movies
Where is the leg though?
Facebook's take on it is essentially to get you to enjoy "living" in a virtual world rather than actually going out and living in the real one. I feel sorry for anyone who can't see how this is an extreme form of escapism and all for Facebook's economic gain no less.
invest in META then if u see that pattern lol
I didn't hear a word that was said after 6:52 because I couldn't stop focusing on how weird it is that nobody has legs.
Nobody has taken a shower IRL too because nobody would know
Microsoft guy looks good without a single hair on his head.
everyone does
So Playststion Home make a return?
Feels like the beginning of “Ready Player one”
they couldn't afford to program in the legs? Or is that coming in a later DLC where you pay extra to have legs?
I don't see why they don't just use an existing product like World of Warcraft.
Lol
Is this whole thing a parody? It's like watching 1990's video game graphics in VR and making pretend it's all normal.
these presentations feel like a parody yes... -.-
I mean... Oof, where to begin
its still under development but still better than 90s games lmao
right? How can these folk be this out of touch? They smelled their own farts too much during lockdown.
You do realize that the game is being run inside a tiny headset, not a computer?
@@alissaswan5060 what difference does it make? Its not the graphics that is the problem. The whole concept is just absolutely dorky and silly. I know some kids already do hang out in VR chatrooms, but those are fringe nerds with too much time in their hand. If humanity has any spine left, this will never catch on.
why can't I have a lower body in the Teams metaverse?
Imagine taking serious work meetings looking like that.
The avatar as a substitute for real interaction is pretty useless...give me the tech stack though. I think there's definitely something there!
As someone who isn't very comfortable in his skin I honestly am mostly only interested in the avatars.
@@badreddinekasmi8919 I can see insecure people like this. But it will only in your headset. Day to day you have to face the real life and accept your own skin.
From What I so far seen the avatar rendering is child like cartoon character's, comparing then to a Grid that have been around over 10 years Linden Labs Second Life, when you consider that fact that majority of invasion, came from the players them selves, and not Linden Labs is amazing quality of the Avatars in this Grid, I feel that there is a lot to be learned from Linden labs Second Life Grid, and the overall Quality of the Avatar Rendering, to what I have seen so far, of this Metaverse
I worked for JLR and Cadbury’s in Birmingham and Accenture outsourced a lot of finance jobs to India.
What does that tell you about how the world works.
This is how it all began. Don't be surprised if we wake in an episode og Black Mirror.
I wish they don't add advertisements in between metaworse conversations.
The idea will be to sell you more stuff. You'll consume and like it.
Until both systems offer realistic graphics like in AAA games this is basically VR chat. In my opinion the tech isn’t there yet. How are they going to link my room to the Metaverse? Don’t get me wrong it would be an amazing way for me to get a realistic view of a project out of my country, a tour of somewhere I’m not, etc. I just don’t think moving my Phone/VR Set around to scan all regions of my house everyday will be as great. Plus you have to consider the lengths that the realistic/heavy cloud data of your Metaverse home has to go to through in order to go to and from servers almost having to always display the accurate depiction of your house. Downloading or Rendering 3D designs are already slow on the cloud imagine your whole house having to load once you turn on your VR Set.
TLDR Great Idea but doesn’t have the tech to support it yet
They just through this together to act like they didn’t just change the name to rebrand after the legal issues
When the teams work, I might enter the microsoft metaverse
How many Metaverses are there?