Drummer Reacts To - GENE KRUPA - BIG NOISE FROM WINNETKA FIRST TIME HEARING
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Gene was an innovator. He added a lot of ‘words’ to the drum set vocabulary . He also almost single-handedly, brought the drum set to the forefront of the public guy with Benny Goodman‘s band in the late 30s. When Gene recorded sing, sing, sing, Buddy was just getting started as a jazz musician and was only 21. Buddy openly acknowledged, Gene’s innovations, and later, Gene openly acknowledged, Buddy’s innovations. The important part is that they were very very close friends. For real.
My Dad use to say Buddy was the technician, whereas Krupa was the showman - my Dad loved Krupa x
Krupa was a monster. Performer, director, innovator, magician. He invented the ubiquitous Krupa Beat heard in great songs like 'Sing, Sing, Sing' and 'Drum Boogie.' One of the things I really appreciate is that he was a MUSICAL drummer, not some frenetic skin-basher; his solos never let go of the real beat of the music.
I feel that I get more soul from Krupa. For a long time he couldn't read music so he faked his way through, and I think that gives him the edge in playing with real feeling. Eddie Condon once said, Krupa's drums went through us like a triple bourbon."
And, to answer your question, if I had to pick a favorite of the two, I'd pick Krupa, but only because I adore the era of music that he represents.
Gene and Buddy had an immense respect for each other and played together often. Their "rivalry" was very friendly. There's not a great rock drummer who didn't/doesn't praise them both but all the greats like Peart, Bonham, Baker...they all bowed to Buddy.
@cory, all the greats preferred Krupa over rich. Peter Chris,John bonham,Keith moon and bill ward. Go do a search on it and you’ll see.
Add louie Belson to that list one of the top 5 of all time you name 2 others
My favorites by era starts with Gene Krupa, then Eddie Shaunessy, then Buddy Rich, Mike Portnoy and Tony Royster Jr.!
The 1938 video of Bob Haggart and drummer Ray Bauduc of The Bob Cats , has Bauduc strumming his sticks on the stand up bass to Big Noise, which they wrote. It's well worth viewing !!
Those rimshots sound amazing gene was a proper rhythmical drummer
That was way past sweet watching him use the sticks on the base... too cool, too cool
I'm a Krupa fan...in all the videos I've seen, Krupa always plays with his accompanying musicians, he's always part of the group part of the orchestra, his solos generally include other musicians he's playing with, and he seemed to be an innovator, Rich always struck me as the technicien part of the band but apart also.
They’re different. Krupa seems like he’s got such a light touch and also a tad more musical. And Rich could pound, go fast and do some crazy combos.
In his day(1930s/1940s), Gene was considered one of the louder drummers of the time. He was certainly heavier/more forceful than drummers like Jo Jones, Sid Catlett or Dave Tough. If you listen to Benny Goodman's 1938 Carnegie Hall concert, you'll hear Gene definitely not holding back at all. Gene, to my ear, is kind of right in the sweet spot in both tuning and volume. Buddy and MAYBE Chick Webb were the only guys at the time playing louder than Gene, generally. But Benny Goodman(whom Buddy auditioned for when Gene left) and rival Artie Shaw(who Buddy was hired by in 1939) were both of the opinion that Buddy played too loud.
Buddy may have been the best ever technical drummer. He could play precisely and very fast. However, I get more feeling from Gene. Gene is more musical. He is my favorite.
Buddy Rich's speed and rudiments were beyond understanding...But Gene was special in the way he struck the drums.....
My Father was born in 1924 and preferred Krupa to Rich.
Billy Cobham was my favorite growing up.
Just love how Gene sounds. It’s what he doesn’t play that slays me. He leaves room for the melody while at once allowing for and accentuating the playing of others. First Rock drummer for sure.
He just makes you move!!
This was originally a schtick by Ray Bauduc and Bob Haggart. Gene was super musical in whatever he did.
I am a self taught drummer as a kid watching both Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich. I lean toward Buddy Rich a little more but both drummers were great! My favorite song by Gene Krupa was Sing, Sing, Sing when he played with the Benny Goodman Orchestra.
Gene Krupa is all that, a bag of chips & plus the dip.💪👽💯
Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich had very different styles--both were masters at their craft. The Swing Era produced some fantastic drummers, and several after the Swing Era who got their start playing in latter-day Swing bands. You should check out Chick Webb, who many thought to be the best Swing drummer of all time before his untimely, young death. Also, Sam Woodyard from the Duke Ellington Orchestra, and Louie Bellson (who pioneered the use of the double bass drums--check him out on the 1953 recording of "Skin Deep") and, later yet, Rufus "Speedy" Jones; Sonny Payne with the Count Basie Orchestra and, later, Duffy Jackson. Also, Alvin Stoller, who played with Benny Goodman, Tommy Dorsey and others, but became well-known later as the drummer that Frank Sinatra preferred for his recording dates. Just to name a few.
Gene is my all time personal favorite drummer, buddy was a great drummer too just aittle different style
Krupa is largely responsible for the composition of the modern drum kit. In the 1920s, drummers would build a kit out of a marching bass drum, a snare, cowbell, woodblock, smallish cymbals and a Chinese tam tam (a small Tom with tacked on heads). Krupa got drum manufacturers to create toms with two tuneable heads, big ride cymbals and crashes. The trap kit (contraption) gave way to the modern kit by the end of the 30s.
Just caught your channel.
Watching the BabyMetal Road of Resistance.
They are Japanese.
There's a ton of J Metal bands as well as J Rock that you would like.
I recommend Unlucky Morpheus Cadaver Fumiya drum cam.
As a drummer you'd love to react to this one.
Also do Lovebites When Destinies Align live.
Versailles Masquerade live Holy Grail.
And Aldious Dominator live Radiant A O East...this bands drummer is Marina Bozzio the daughter of American Grammy Award winning drummer Terry Bozzio.
Never expected to see Alan Shearer doing a video on drummers.
I would say Buddy had the speed and tech skill way over Gene but Gene just grooves in a way I like better. He's also a fantastic drummer, he was just so cool, very exciting to watch.
Buddy had nothing over Crupa
Cool stuff, Colby. Just discovered your channel. I was a little kid seeing these guys (Rich and Krupa) on TV. I looked through your channel to see who else you reacted to. Lots of interesting videos I'll have to check out. Was wondering if you have checked out people like Billy Cobham (from early 70's Mahavishnu Orchestra fame and his own groups afterwards), Vinnie Colaiuta, or Dennis Chambers?
In my opinion the "Big 3" are: Gene Krupa, Louis Belson, Buddy Rich; in that order.
he's the very best
Enjoying your channel! I don't see any Louie Belson on your channel? He went to school with my father. I consider Louie one of the best of all time and maybe the first to use two kicks. He has many videos up and also a battle on Johnny Carson with Buddy Rich.
Thanks! Stay tuned, more to come.
One more thing I would recommend is watch
Junna Through the Fire and Flames Dragonforce Drum cover
This will blow you away.
Well all the best rock drummers studied Crupa and he was from the 1930s
I learned to love the drums hearing Krupa on NPR in Chicago in the 60s. Rich was the best. Jo Jones, Ian Paice, Kieth Moon, John Bonham et. al. are all unique musicians standing on each other's shoulders giving us pleasure and inspiring all who listen and love this spirit of rhythm.
And now El Estapario Siberiano is blowing them all out of the water…………..one handed!
Gene Krupa is one of the names to be mentioned along with Buddy Rich to be some of the best to come out of the big band era!
Great entertainers.
You should check out the drum battel, between him and Buddy Rich.
He should have done that while Jimmy Page played his guitar with a bow. They were geniuses.
Nick Mason from Pink Floyd.
Would need to see a lot more Krupa to tell.
one artist can't be better than another artist. it's not a race. it's about expression. but he was more original.
Buddy Rich is the greatest drummer who ever lived
I LOVE your channel! My list of best:
Gene Krupa
Jon Bonham
Keith Moon
Ginger Baker
Michael Shrieve
🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Buddy Rich!
Gene, the best, take a look at Eric Delaney. He is a British drummer from the same period, fine drummer also.
Modern- Carl Palmer, classic- Gene
You owe it to yourself to see all of the greats; Art Blakey, Max Roach, Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, Steve Gadd.
max roach was excellent. the king of the high hat!
I always thought buddy was technically better,but gene had better feel
Always liked Sandy Nelson
Gene Krupa was the buddy rich of his time...I saw in the 60s
To me, Krupa was the best to listen to but Rich was the best to watch. Krupa makes me want to move around and I like how his playing supports and seasons the other players parts. Rich is a force to be reckoned with and the other musicians seem to orbit around him. But.. the boy was impressive. 😎
Hmmmmm, I don't see any McCoy Tyner on your channel
You know the drummer for John Coltrane.
Gene could do more on two drums that others did on four!
If you are going through some of the older drummers I highly recommend "Karen Carpenter" an amazing drummer as well a singer !
Buddy rich and gene krupa hold the sticks in what's considered the proper way right ??? Anybody ?
Gene Krupa had more feeling than Buddy Rich
Ever listen to Will Calhoun from Living Colour?
I went to college with Will. Beautiful person great player. If he was on a session, you knew it was going to be swinging. Apples and oranges to Buddy and Gene though.
@@ajn465 Berklee, huh? Whenever they play Boston I make sure to go, He puts on a monster performance.
"Some would say he's better than Buddy Rich." Well, Gene would not, as he famously expressed, "Buddy is the greatest drummer ever to have drawn breath." Or, if you prefer a more contemporary take from another great drummer, how about Neil Peart who said this about Buddy: "Yes, there are plenty of people who can swing and rock those sticks, no question - but here we have a blend of a great gift, a life devoted unstintingly to its perfection, and audiences to appreciate it along the way. We shall not pass that way again".
@mobrules,Krupa always said rich was better but,Krupa never drew attention to himself,always praising others over himself. He had no ego! Buddy on the other hand was an extreme ego tripper. Krupa was a lot better!
Some would 😄
I would say Gene was better. But it’s abit biased since I’m related to him ❤️😂🤘
Carl Palmer.
Rich better drummer by a small margin but Kupra was a better show man
I think Gene gave Peter Criss drum lessons
Buddy was probably faster but Gene was more musical.
Gene Krupa was inarguably the GOAT. No contest. Max Roach would be my choice for second best. Buddy Rich might make the top five. Maybe.
Buddy Rich couldn't do well In a small combo. BEnny goodman was one of the toughest taskmasters and Buddy rich tried to play with his band. Benny hired Gene over Beddy because Gene was musical. HE could do less is more and make it sound amazing! plus his showmanship was incredible.
Buddy Rich would run circles around him, but it's not taking anything away from Gene's elegant drumming. I like them both the same for different reasons. Gene = Swing, and Buddy = jazz. Jazz is a much harder genre to drum to.
No doubt Krupa was an asesome drummer but would still put Buddy Rich ahead of him...
Krupa was better than rich overall !
Technically Buddy Rich was way better, pure pyrotechnics, but Krupa could really swing & make a drum kit "sing"; he was much more "musical" for want of a better word. But that's just my 10 cents.
Can't hold uh candle to Buddy. Sorry
Krupa was less clinical than Rich.
Buddy Rich was a machine gun. Gene Krupa was so smooth and musical. Both greats but, Gene was the top of the mark.
His name is Bill Bruford.