@@asad_ae It always hard to get sarcasm through comment but got you bro. For Nina I think being able to greying 70% if health on block in heat, a lot of strings being ch on ground like her 3 hit slap so no grey and idiotic decision like making her highly evaisive ss launcher only - 14 have to do something with that.
@@asad_aeI think pros just have a different outlook on the game and characters. For 99% of players (myself absolutely included) Alisa’s strengths can be overwhelming. However I also think they are the type of strengths that pro players will see and think “if I’m dealing with that BS at all, it’s because I made a clear mistake”, and not making clear mistakes is the baseline of what they expect from themselves. But I think that’s only 1 player out of every 10,000 (or less) who actually is at the level of skill to be able to approach the game that way. Basically, my feeling is that once someone has developed the strongest counterplay against her, Alisa’s threat is more neutered than when other top characters face the same level of counterplay. Her ceiling at a pro level seems lower, frankly. I think Nina and Feng are top tier at a pro level because even though their individual tools may not be as strong on their own, they will still work just as well no matter how much counterplay you’ve developed against them and at that level, their limitations have more to do with the player than the character. Like their movesets are really strong but they also require quite a bit of investment to get them to that level. I could be totally wrong but that’s the feeling I get.
I think he is focussing hard on these tournaments and you can see it. He already had 2 Top8 appearances. Really looking forward to him smashing some people (in game).
There's NO WAY Reina is anywhere even close to the other top tiers mentioned. I main Reina and she has to work so so much harder than the others. Not to mention now she can get hit by imaginary air punches while she is laying on the ground for kick apparantly. Garbage lows, Along with her ff2 huge nerf has made her very balanced.
Reina is a cursed character. One of the most difficult in the game yet people act like she's Victor level easy. Gets a bunch of hate despite not having the success on or offline that the real top tiers have. Its like invisible success even though the stats show otherwise. If she was so easy and OP these pros would be exploiting her like they do every other strong + easy character.
@Waveyshinobi I have a feeling she's gonna become a menace later on in the games life once the meta grows, but she's definitely high execution / high reward, so she's gonna take time to develop; especially with the game being patched so frequently
@@vengeanceenjoyer lol if you think she's weaker than Jin you're delusional. Or even King and maybe Alisa. Those 4 are somewhere close to each other in power level. Yes recent nerfs hurt but she still has the highest damage from EWGF, the best movement bar Lili, top 2 ff2 and almost all of the tools a character needs
This is so funny because today I labbed yoshi and never quite knew just how messed up he is. Even just his 3 string is effed up, 3,1 mid high heat engager that's plus 7 ob and if you duck the high you can get by 3,2,1+2 for 40 damage lol
definitely and that's what the pros say so ill take their take on it over that of scrub level players who keeps on complaining who just don't know their matchups #startlabbingstopcomplaining
Many characters are agreeable to be in top 3, Reina could as well As could Paul, Jin, King, Feng, Drag, Jun, Nina They are mostly the craziest characters in the game
@@Kaizer_Ulyssesshe's not that hard. It's just that she's not that evasive anymore and they nerf her 100% winrate neutral game cause she controls neutral every single game she's in because of her ff2 tracks both sides. She needs to work hard in order to work pretty well. Edit: typos lmao
@@tabkg5802 It's a joke, man. In part. The past few patches have shown that Namco buffs and nerfs now, not to address imbalances in the game but to address the crybabies on the internet.
Nina is my favorite character. Previously, I was always worried about the players who played for Nina. And now namco can nerf her again because of the large number of haters, but we don’t want that. Now I don’t want to see how Nina wins because if she is nerfed again, it will be difficult to play as her and perhaps even lose interest in the game.
@@user-bp8vu2ri6oIf a nerf makes you drop the character immediately then you never liked to play him/her in the first place. You were only interested because the character is strong and you could get wins easily. Look at dvj mains still sticking with their main despite dvj being nerfed to the ground.
The same problem as Dragunov where character is so strong that even an entire page of nerfs don't fix the situation. Honestly the main problem with him is his damage
She was never that strong to begin with. People were freaking out and too lazy to lab her. Same thing happened in T7; she was considered S tier in season 1 but dropped to B tier when people came to their senses.
@@Jadasan now that's cap. T7 yes, absolutely. But vanilla t8 xiao is absurd lmao. Insane wall game, insane damage, insane heat and insane evasion. I agree with their design philosophy on pretty much everything except damage lmao
@@Kaizer_Ulyssesthe damage has been hardly nerfed since. Meanwhile mishima players are telling that kazuyas dmg is low. I wouldn't be surprised if mishima mains started to demand that electric needs to be a guard break while crying for nerfs for every other character
I didn't play T8 for a long time, and I'm scared to come back. I hated T7 Yoshi - ultra cheap, unfair and not fun at all to play against. And if T8 Yoshi is actually strong - this should be miserable to play against.
@@SnowflakeSSQ some small tips for that, its +7 is fake, input b once and everything drag does will whiff and every transition into it is also fake and can be jab intercepted besides that its ~25f so you can react to it and ss, ss in general is drags biggest weakness but snk4 is just as linear as wr2
Yoshi keeping his bag of tricks, gaining pressure tools from the t8 mechanics ( which he ddnt have in t7) and then doing a colossal amount of damage from his combos has put him up there. They just need to nerf his combo damage to balance him out IMO
I’m with Bubsy about Jin. Love Jin and he’s so cool for the Tekken franchise, but f**k him!! I also have a vendetta against Jin and whenever I beat a strong Jin it makes my day. Goddamn Jin. Bubsy is right. Too well rounded.
Started playing Jin to learn the match up better, because I hated how strong he is, ended up liking him the most instead. I prefer defensive play, and Jin got every tool I could possibly want and can be played any way I can imagine. Oddly enough, I like Jin mirrors now😄
Bro this shit kills me. Lol. There are literally. TWO top tier pros who main Feng but somehow people universally agree he's the strongest character in the game. Why don't more people use him if he's so strong?? Lmao. Look at all these new Nina, Yoshi and Jin players. But no new Feng players. People are such sheep man 😂
@@terrellestephens8922i think picking up Feng just bcs he is the strongest is a sheep attitude. Hes just a free pass character hehe, its a well known fact for years now
Feng players when their character doesn't win every single major ever (surely he's not top tier) /s Lmao that ugly bum dominates every top 16 listing by entries. At worst there are like 2 Fengs in every top 16 what are all of you downplaying for
@@leopart7600 "Oh no I can't use a 10f homing for 45 dmg anymore 😔😔😔😔" gtfo. Him having an ONLY safe 13f mid CH launcher already easily puts him in top 10, let alone rest of his kit
Feng is top3 to the point that I can only think of 2 people hardly maining him And despite being one of the most popular characters in pools, he’s rarely ever seen at top24 Wtf are people smoking lmao
@@thoraero i mean i guess. I dont know. I think you could make the case for any character not named panda and maybe raven to be top 10. Like i dont think theres enough of a gap to even say "this character is the 4th best" ya know. If i had to guess i think they are probably in the 5-10 range. But you could argue them top 5 i guess. The issue is that Nina, Feng, Drag, and Jin exist.
It's wild to me that people really think Jin is top 3, when the likes of Feng, Nina and Drag exist. The fact the majority even said Feng, Drag and Nina the real top 3 characters should be enough, but I guess the bandwagon hate for Jin just makes people illogical. I don't think he's even top 5, at the very least top 10-15 though, moreso now after the nerfs to the range, pushback and tracking of his ff2 demon paw.
@@IzNebulaso what he probably still knows better than you what youre talking about lol. Stop acting like one nerf to a specific attack changes the character or somethin lol🤣🤣
@@martinmonroe7082 You clearly have no idea wth your talking about, a nerf to a character can definitely change how a character's playstyle changes. You literally see this with characters like azucena, when her running 3,4 was nerfed. You can't sit there and tell me she is not weaker than previously. Additionally, with those changes you are forced to play more with her stances, which is a completely different playstyle with her than before. Trying to sound smart without knowing what you're even saying, good job.
Yo everyone needs to chill out with calling yoshi top 3. This is the first tekken us long-time yoshi mains have an actual high tier character to play. Please let us have this. He's good for sure, but keep in mind dragunov, alisa, jin, shaheen, nina, feng, king and maybe a few others are all better than yoshi. Please let us have this one game where yoshi is good. Weve already been nerfed 3 times. Weve already had a weak character for every game before 8, besides after all the buffs at the tail end of 7. Let us have this one thing.
Lol the downplay 😂Man they not nerfing any characters for a long time..We are stuck with this patch until a new season comes..So yoshi will remain broken until then relax
@@tryingtochangemyways5074 how did I downplay? I said hes one of the best in the game. But historically yoshi has been low tier. I'm saying let us keep our high tier yoshi for once. And yes all the characters I've listed are performing better than yoshi in high level tournaments. Weve maybe seen one or two yoshi players in the top 8 in twt events. Weve seen countless alisa, Jin, nina, drag, feng, and shaheens, so...dont really know what you mean.
@@gabehorne4791 hes always had it and its seeable. Yeah there are setups for it, but you just have to lab the oki, like any other lab character. Just because it's cheap doesnt mean its broken. Should we take away all of kings command grabs because you cant break throws? Also, the grounded sword thing is a tradeoff. If the opponent stays on the ground, yoshi gets less damage than a standard combo, so it's a risk yoshi takes for less damage in return of maybe the opponent gets up aks gets guard broken and we get more damage than a standard combo. It's a setup, which you know...most characters have. I'm not trying to downplay him. I literally said he was top tier in my comment, but the people replying I can tell dont know much about yoshi, so...
I've been a yoshi main since the very beginning and after the new patch I get ki charged and teabagged like 50% of the time 💀a strong Yoshi makes people salty as hell But idc what the manchildren and waifu players say I will always keep playing my goofy lil ninja >_
Well when a character rewards brainless neutral such as parry spam and 50/50 strings people will be pissed. Yoshi hands down is of the most annoying characters to fight simply because he can steal his turn for no reason. Mfs don’t even time the parry half the time. If they add much more recovery frames so dumb ass Yoshis can get launched then id be ok with it
@@PSNDarkSouL lol parry spam and 50/50 strings? Yoshi's parry is rarely used and he doesnt have any 50/50 strings at all. And if you mean flash when talking about his parry, it is launch punishable...it doesnt need recovery frames if you can already launch it bro.
@@PSNDarkSouL sorry but I can't take the flash complains seriously, they already nerfed it to the point where it whiffs simply bc it has shit range which is why you have to think twice before using it. Sure it works against mashers in red or purple but in blue and higher more people understand how to bait and punish flash. If you think its such a free move then why don't you go ahead and rank up to gold with yoshi? I promise you it's punishable. Maybe stop mashing for once. Also his parry (3+4) is one of the worst in the game. Nothing about Yoshi is brainless, his pokes have shit recovery and are pretty linear. Don't get me wrong I agree he is one of the strongest characters but claiming he is brainless or easy just makes you look like a salty scrub. His gameplan is hard to master which is why he's so rare in tournament play, it's much easier to pick drag or feng and go for aggressive 50/50 gameplay.
Feng, Drag, Nina, Yoshi, Alisa, Jin and King. Got it.
You play Reina?
Koreans and Pakistanis have no probs with King since they break throws in their sleep
@@Aggrofool
Not Pakistani have one king player The Jon
Lol Jin had the least amount of votes
guys what hwo
Those characters are really strong, now nerf my devil jin again.
LTG: "Anyone I'm against" 😂
Hahah 😂
lowtiergroomer
This would of been so funny with a counter/tally on screen. I didn't expect to see such a consistent list of characters from everyone like that!
*would HAVE
not "would of"
🙈🤡🙈🤡🙈🤡
@@engr4051was about to say this too. Its running more rampant than ever before. Gotta fix it before its too late
For those curious:
Feng = 12
Nina = 12
Drag = 9
Yoshi = 8
Alisa = 4
Jin = 3
King = 2
Reina = 2
King had more votes. 4
Was hoping someone would total them up
King was 4 and Jin was 2
These Koreans knows what's up with Yoshi for a while cause they often fight EM on rank, and Kane performance recently just solidify it.
It’s so crazy looking back on how wildly overtuned Drag and Fang were that even after a good amount of nerfs they are still likely top 3 lol
After being verbally beaten to death by Yoshi downplayers, I feel very redeemed by this video.
As a Nina main, this video makes me open up my pc and do pressure practice for Nina because I'm still noob
Why am I not surprised the 5 characters mentioned the most were Alisa, feng, dragunov, Nina n yoshi
Safe to say feng and dragunov are really good
Everybody was agreeing on this from the start but Nina really sliped under the radar with her BS. Well time to wait for S2 with her.
@@tyber124 i mean im being sarcastic, But Nina was mentioned alot too, so not really safe but it’s insane she’s mentioned more than Alisa
@@asad_ae It always hard to get sarcasm through comment but got you bro. For Nina I think being able to greying 70% if health on block in heat, a lot of strings being ch on ground like her 3 hit slap so no grey and idiotic decision like making her highly evaisive ss launcher only - 14 have to do something with that.
@@asad_aeso feng and dragunov is not good?
@@asad_aeI think pros just have a different outlook on the game and characters. For 99% of players (myself absolutely included) Alisa’s strengths can be overwhelming. However I also think they are the type of strengths that pro players will see and think “if I’m dealing with that BS at all, it’s because I made a clear mistake”, and not making clear mistakes is the baseline of what they expect from themselves. But I think that’s only 1 player out of every 10,000 (or less) who actually is at the level of skill to be able to approach the game that way.
Basically, my feeling is that once someone has developed the strongest counterplay against her, Alisa’s threat is more neutered than when other top characters face the same level of counterplay. Her ceiling at a pro level seems lower, frankly. I think Nina and Feng are top tier at a pro level because even though their individual tools may not be as strong on their own, they will still work just as well no matter how much counterplay you’ve developed against them and at that level, their limitations have more to do with the player than the character. Like their movesets are really strong but they also require quite a bit of investment to get them to that level.
I could be totally wrong but that’s the feeling I get.
ohhh sephiblack spotting miss my boy posting those shaheen clips he hasn’t posted in over a month
He hasn't posted in weeks 💀
they are all busy traveling cuz these tournys are only 2 weeks apart
Sephi streams regularly though.
I think he is focussing hard on these tournaments and you can see it. He already had 2 Top8 appearances. Really looking forward to him smashing some people (in game).
Top 4 is super clear: Feng, Nina, Drag, Yoshi. After that’s there clear 50% drop in votes for Alisa and King. And Jin and Reina fill the top 8.
There's NO WAY Reina is anywhere even close to the other top tiers mentioned. I main Reina and she has to work so so much harder than the others.
Not to mention now she can get hit by imaginary air punches while she is laying on the ground for kick apparantly. Garbage lows, Along with her ff2 huge nerf has made her very balanced.
Reina is a cursed character. One of the most difficult in the game yet people act like she's Victor level easy. Gets a bunch of hate despite not having the success on or offline that the real top tiers have. Its like invisible success even though the stats show otherwise. If she was so easy and OP these pros would be exploiting her like they do every other strong + easy character.
Tekken players try not to downplay their mains challenge(impossible)
@@shreeanshmahapatra2313 haha i was about to say "here we go, first downplaying post"
@Waveyshinobi I have a feeling she's gonna become a menace later on in the games life once the meta grows, but she's definitely high execution / high reward, so she's gonna take time to develop; especially with the game being patched so frequently
@@vengeanceenjoyer lol if you think she's weaker than Jin you're delusional. Or even King and maybe Alisa. Those 4 are somewhere close to each other in power level. Yes recent nerfs hurt but she still has the highest damage from EWGF, the best movement bar Lili, top 2 ff2 and almost all of the tools a character needs
And on bottom characters :
All in unison :
Devil jin
This is so funny because today I labbed yoshi and never quite knew just how messed up he is. Even just his 3 string is effed up, 3,1 mid high heat engager that's plus 7 ob and if you duck the high you can get by 3,2,1+2 for 40 damage lol
Kaneandtrench got those europeans shook lmfao
Harada undercover doing interviews.
yoshi mains eating good
feng, drag, nina, alisa and yoshi are top 5 (king top 6)
definitely and that's what the pros say so ill take their take on it over that of scrub level players who keeps on complaining who just don't know their matchups #startlabbingstopcomplaining
And of course no one (except Jodd the Godd) mentions their own character lol.
Why ppl put Feng up there more instead of Jin??
As a pro my top 3 is Alisa, Jin and Dragunov
1:05 I heard Jin there. 👀
sounds like, but you hear the "g" in the end
My man wanted to say Jin but switched to king and made it sound like Jing
Kayane's accent is so hot 😍😍
Im glad Yoshi is finally getting more known in the pro scene
Wow, that is crazy! Now nerf Devil Jin
Damn why i keep losing with Nina and Alisa
For me
Victor
Dragonuv
Steve
Eddy gordo
4 character nerf big damage o.p
Nina and Steve. Thats it thats all.
Yoshi my main placed really high.
Many characters are agreeable to be in top 3, Reina could as well
As could Paul, Jin, King, Feng, Drag, Jun, Nina
They are mostly the craziest characters in the game
People saying paul in top 3 after 1.5 is crazy lmao. Sure he's strong but not top 10 strong
Ain’t no way Reina is top five or ten for that matter. Almost every pro player drops her when they’re losing. She has way too many flaws to be top ten
Paul is not top 10 id say
@@thorcolossus reina is definitely top 10 bro lmao way more tame now but u know why they drop her? Cus she's pretty fucking hard
@@Kaizer_Ulyssesshe's not that hard. It's just that she's not that evasive anymore and they nerf her 100% winrate neutral game cause she controls neutral every single game she's in because of her ff2 tracks both sides. She needs to work hard in order to work pretty well.
Edit: typos lmao
I don't agree on Alisa and yoshi my top 3 in order would be Feng,drag,Nina
surprised no one said claudio .
Because claudio isn't top tier. Just a cut below
but they keep nerfing law ROFL
Yoshi drag feng
So feng for sure 😂
This is the nerf list for the next patch.
@@nuancedatheist934 being strong =/= needing nerfs. Only Feng needs a slight nerf to his damage here and that's about it. Ah also Yoshi
@@tabkg5802 It's a joke, man. In part. The past few patches have shown that Namco buffs and nerfs now, not to address imbalances in the game but to address the crybabies on the internet.
@@nuancedatheist934 Ight got you, my bad
leave my girl nina alone,,
Nina is my favorite character. Previously, I was always worried about the players who played for Nina. And now namco can nerf her again because of the large number of haters, but we don’t want that. Now I don’t want to see how Nina wins because if she is nerfed again, it will be difficult to play as her and perhaps even lose interest in the game.
@@user-bp8vu2ri6oIf a nerf makes you drop the character immediately then you never liked to play him/her in the first place. You were only interested because the character is strong and you could get wins easily. Look at dvj mains still sticking with their main despite dvj being nerfed to the ground.
Hwoarang no where to be seen. I hope the people whining about him get the point this time around, that it is not the character, it is YOU!
Didn’t Feng got nerft?
Yes, and he is still good.
The same problem as Dragunov where character is so strong that even an entire page of nerfs don't fix the situation. Honestly the main problem with him is his damage
Why they are not saying ling,where are those kids who cry,oh aop is so op
These guys actually know the matchup
She got nerfed pretty hard so it makes sense. Vanilla t8 though, the top 5 are definitely Feng, drag, azu, king and xiaoyu in that order
She was never that strong to begin with. People were freaking out and too lazy to lab her. Same thing happened in T7; she was considered S tier in season 1 but dropped to B tier when people came to their senses.
@@Jadasan now that's cap. T7 yes, absolutely. But vanilla t8 xiao is absurd lmao. Insane wall game, insane damage, insane heat and insane evasion. I agree with their design philosophy on pretty much everything except damage lmao
@@Kaizer_Ulyssesthe damage has been hardly nerfed since. Meanwhile mishima players are telling that kazuyas dmg is low. I wouldn't be surprised if mishima mains started to demand that electric needs to be a guard break while crying for nerfs for every other character
I didn't play T8 for a long time, and I'm scared to come back.
I hated T7 Yoshi - ultra cheap, unfair and not fun at all to play against. And if T8 Yoshi is actually strong - this should be miserable to play against.
No one said Shaheen baby let's go. We're gonna emerge unscathed from the next round of nerfs too.
Just get Eddy & spam 3
Dragunov is still a problem....
Top 10 IMO
1. Dragunov
2. Feng
3. Nina
4. Yoshimitsu
5. King
6. Alisa
7. Jin
8. Shaheen
9. Reina
10. Xiaoyu
interesting id go with
1. Nina
2. Alisa
3. Yoshi /Feng
5. Jin
6. Shaheen
7. King
8. Claudio
9. Paul/Law
11. Drag
Good list
Dragunov's sneak 4 is enough for me to put him at no. 1
@@h4b3e1n9b0Rn law is not that strong after the nerf.
@@SnowflakeSSQ some small tips for that, its +7 is fake, input b once and everything drag does will whiff and every transition into it is also fake and can be jab intercepted
besides that its ~25f so you can react to it and ss, ss in general is drags biggest weakness but snk4 is just as linear as wr2
Reina is no chance top 5. I could list a hundred reasons why. So dont @ me
Yoshi keeping his bag of tricks, gaining pressure tools from the t8 mechanics ( which he ddnt have in t7) and then doing a colossal amount of damage from his combos has put him up there.
They just need to nerf his combo damage to balance him out IMO
I’m with Bubsy about Jin. Love Jin and he’s so cool for the Tekken franchise, but f**k him!! I also have a vendetta against Jin and whenever I beat a strong Jin it makes my day. Goddamn Jin. Bubsy is right. Too well rounded.
Started playing Jin to learn the match up better, because I hated how strong he is, ended up liking him the most instead.
I prefer defensive play, and Jin got every tool I could possibly want and can be played any way I can imagine. Oddly enough, I like Jin mirrors now😄
@@chucklos391 lol guess every shoto is "too well rounded" now
@@tabkg5802 Jin is great for the game, but Jin can suck it.
@@chucklos391 if you think there are no problems with balancing than my bad for jumping to conclusions. Also respect the hate
@@tabkg5802 haha! No worries brah! It’s just a game! Always fun to kick golden boy Jin’s arse.
Feng is so good that nobody plays him except Joka.
Oh yeah hes top 3 alright, lmao.
Bro this shit kills me. Lol. There are literally. TWO top tier pros who main Feng but somehow people universally agree he's the strongest character in the game. Why don't more people use him if he's so strong?? Lmao. Look at all these new Nina, Yoshi and Jin players. But no new Feng players. People are such sheep man 😂
@@terrellestephens8922i think picking up Feng just bcs he is the strongest is a sheep attitude. Hes just a free pass character hehe, its a well known fact for years now
@@terrellestephens8922 i actually agree, i think feng is overrated (im not a feng player)
Feng players when their character doesn't win every single major ever (surely he's not top tier)
/s
Lmao that ugly bum dominates every top 16 listing by entries. At worst there are like 2 Fengs in every top 16 what are all of you downplaying for
how the fuck can some pro says king is top 3 after this horrible nerf he took on his throws wtf
Mom look a purple rank King who knows better than 20 pros
@@Tk.Bogarts bro i'm Tekken emperor playing with 2018,
3500h on t7 and 5h on t8
STFU
@@leopart7600 "Oh no I can't use a 10f homing for 45 dmg anymore 😔😔😔😔" gtfo. Him having an ONLY safe 13f mid CH launcher already easily puts him in top 10, let alone rest of his kit
Feng, drag and yoshi, top 3 S tier meta right now
Yoshi, Jin and Drag
Damn, better nerf Lars.
Top 3 characters to nerf next patch
Feng is top3 to the point that I can only think of 2 people hardly maining him
And despite being one of the most popular characters in pools, he’s rarely ever seen at top24
Wtf are people smoking lmao
King,Ali,Drg
Reina has to work so much harder than these other characters and it ain't even close.
Yoshi and Alisa are absolutely NOT top 3 characters. They are just annoying to deal with.
But arguably top 5, right?
@@thoraero i mean i guess. I dont know. I think you could make the case for any character not named panda and maybe raven to be top 10. Like i dont think theres enough of a gap to even say "this character is the 4th best" ya know. If i had to guess i think they are probably in the 5-10 range. But you could argue them top 5 i guess. The issue is that Nina, Feng, Drag, and Jin exist.
Alisa can be contending somewhere in top 10 like you said. But IMHO yoshi is definitely higher.
Why feng 🤔🤔
Quick pokes, mixups and a solid style
Literally has the perfect moveset of any situtation
Best poke and close range character but still has solid tools for even mid range and fine combo damage in spite nerfs
Nina needs to be removed from Tekken in general
From a broader yoshi perspective, t8 yoshi is trash and boring
Actual top 10:
1) Nina
2) Drag
3) Jin
4) Alisa
5) Yoshi
6) King
7) Feng
8) Reina
9) Shaheen
10) Claudio or Lars
@@satoshiuchiha931 lmfao how about you listen to actual pros instead of copy pasting TMM tier list?
@@tabkg5802 he has a tier list? That's my tier list actually
@@satoshiuchiha931 my condolences than 🙏🙏🙏
@@tabkg5802 so.... you're a Shaheen main or what 😂
Flowchart answers where no one says the character that they play.
Yoshimitsu i agree, but Nina????????
It's wild to me that people really think Jin is top 3, when the likes of Feng, Nina and Drag exist. The fact the majority even said Feng, Drag and Nina the real top 3 characters should be enough, but I guess the bandwagon hate for Jin just makes people illogical. I don't think he's even top 5, at the very least top 10-15 though, moreso now after the nerfs to the range, pushback and tracking of his ff2 demon paw.
My guy, these are top competitors at the highest level of play
@@konkhemkhonta932Hilarious you say this and one of the 2 people that mentioned Jin is a commentator lol
@@IzNebulaso what he probably still knows better than you what youre talking about lol. Stop acting like one nerf to a specific attack changes the character or somethin lol🤣🤣
@@martinmonroe7082 You clearly have no idea wth your talking about, a nerf to a character can definitely change how a character's playstyle changes. You literally see this with characters like azucena, when her running 3,4 was nerfed. You can't sit there and tell me she is not weaker than previously. Additionally, with those changes you are forced to play more with her stances, which is a completely different playstyle with her than before. Trying to sound smart without knowing what you're even saying, good job.
As a day 1 Yoshimitsu main, it's nice to hear him in people's top 3, but it's fake news, he's not even top 5 unfortunately
Girl if Nina is top why I play like shit and lose lol
Nina has crazy good fundamentals, but unlike many of the top tiers she requires alot effort.
STOP SAYING YOSHI OR THEY WILL NERF HIM
Yo everyone needs to chill out with calling yoshi top 3. This is the first tekken us long-time yoshi mains have an actual high tier character to play. Please let us have this. He's good for sure, but keep in mind dragunov, alisa, jin, shaheen, nina, feng, king and maybe a few others are all better than yoshi. Please let us have this one game where yoshi is good. Weve already been nerfed 3 times. Weve already had a weak character for every game before 8, besides after all the buffs at the tail end of 7. Let us have this one thing.
Lol the downplay 😂Man they not nerfing any characters for a long time..We are stuck with this patch until a new season comes..So yoshi will remain broken until then relax
Screw you and your Yoshi. No one is chilling out about this. Hahaha!! 😂😂😂
Ur unblockable low sweep has to go bro srry and his guaranteed sword on wake up no matter what option u get up with is also busted
@@tryingtochangemyways5074 how did I downplay? I said hes one of the best in the game. But historically yoshi has been low tier. I'm saying let us keep our high tier yoshi for once. And yes all the characters I've listed are performing better than yoshi in high level tournaments. Weve maybe seen one or two yoshi players in the top 8 in twt events. Weve seen countless alisa, Jin, nina, drag, feng, and shaheens, so...dont really know what you mean.
@@gabehorne4791 hes always had it and its seeable. Yeah there are setups for it, but you just have to lab the oki, like any other lab character. Just because it's cheap doesnt mean its broken. Should we take away all of kings command grabs because you cant break throws? Also, the grounded sword thing is a tradeoff. If the opponent stays on the ground, yoshi gets less damage than a standard combo, so it's a risk yoshi takes for less damage in return of maybe the opponent gets up aks gets guard broken and we get more damage than a standard combo. It's a setup, which you know...most characters have. I'm not trying to downplay him. I literally said he was top tier in my comment, but the people replying I can tell dont know much about yoshi, so...
I've been a yoshi main since the very beginning and after the new patch I get ki charged and teabagged like 50% of the time 💀a strong Yoshi makes people salty as hell
But idc what the manchildren and waifu players say I will always keep playing my goofy lil ninja >_
Well when a character rewards brainless neutral such as parry spam and 50/50 strings people will be pissed. Yoshi hands down is of the most annoying characters to fight simply because he can steal his turn for no reason. Mfs don’t even time the parry half the time. If they add much more recovery frames so dumb ass Yoshis can get launched then id be ok with it
@@PSNDarkSouL lol parry spam and 50/50 strings? Yoshi's parry is rarely used and he doesnt have any 50/50 strings at all. And if you mean flash when talking about his parry, it is launch punishable...it doesnt need recovery frames if you can already launch it bro.
As Raven says you are know ninja
@@PSNDarkSouL sorry but I can't take the flash complains seriously, they already nerfed it to the point where it whiffs simply bc it has shit range which is why you have to think twice before using it. Sure it works against mashers in red or purple but in blue and higher more people understand how to bait and punish flash.
If you think its such a free move then why don't you go ahead and rank up to gold with yoshi? I promise you it's punishable. Maybe stop mashing for once.
Also his parry (3+4) is one of the worst in the game. Nothing about Yoshi is brainless, his pokes have shit recovery and are pretty linear.
Don't get me wrong I agree he is one of the strongest characters but claiming he is brainless or easy just makes you look like a salty scrub. His gameplan is hard to master which is why he's so rare in tournament play, it's much easier to pick drag or feng and go for aggressive 50/50 gameplay.
Yoshi is super cool. Keep playing your goofy lil ninja. I might pick him up someday soon.
Yoshimitsu is trash leave him alone