That's if you have 0 pizza energy! Free2play players can earn close to 1200 total pizza energy this event (spending nothing), so most players should have had access to around 400-600 energy so far.
@@HeroWarsCentral havent spent any pizza energy yet, except the minibosses in each chapter. did every task thats possible f2p from the minievents etc until now, curretnly at 640 pizza with 9 days left
@@HeroWarsCentral The pizza numbers in the table present how many pizzas are needed to complete, if you already have the artifacts raised to the various levels. However, it should be modified to also account for the pizza/level requirements to do the artifact levelling too, as this is quite significant, particularly at the higher artifact levels.
I've been using that spread sheet myself and had great success with it. When there were multiple team options, i went for the lowest boost needed first and all were successful from the first try. There was one that did not work, but it turned out there was a mistake in the lineup where you needed Astaroth instead of... i'm guessing Markus (a fight between level 300 and 390, dunno which exactly). The 390 boss can be done slightly cheaper, with 270 buffs instead of 290, maybe i was lucky, but i managed to beat the boss in 1 try with that. 1 more boss to go ;)
Thanks Charlie, these videos and showing the buffs has really helped. I'm sitting at the 310 boss, and waiting for the Chapter 4 to begin and have enough pizza energy saved to get to the 400 boss.
Which elemental totem do you suggest if you have water, fire and dark? Earth or Light? I am leaning towards dungeon battles... thanks in advance Charlie...
I am expecting to get max everything: 6 star ninja turtle, totem, and a giant stack of ninja coins to buy stuff with. What I am pondering now is the tradeoff of coins vs. mats. Mats will convert to Splinter chests which are basically like lore bags. I have nearly 1800 energy - again because I am expecting to smash the Treasury. The question now is what is the cost for the final gold vase relic with its 14 levels.
Hey ^^. I made the calculation for myself. I am at boss level 350 with nearly 0 and i need 760 pizzas to reach the totem. That means even with the 600 in 10 days (around 81€) i won t have it. Too expensive for me. Thank you for the video.
So, Charlie, did anyone do any math (emerald value spreadsheet) of whether we should use up all of our coins opening manhole covers in the festival or just spend those coins in the shop? Again, I don't need red items. Too expensive! As mentioned in the comment yesterday, 200K coins can give me around 50K skin stones OR 16K common crystals in the regular TMNT shop The same 200K can give me around 100 manhole cover openings, which MAY give me 12 secret lab coins (based on your drop rate), which translate to 36K skin stones OR 12K common crystals, which is LESS than you can get at the regular shop However, you also get other resources dropped on top of the secret lab coins. Which is why it is not clear which option is better. You received a few small skin stone and absolute artifact chests. Curious if they offer a better value than the difference between getting 36K skin stones (festival) and 50K skin stones (shop)
And regarding to the brawl event that was just ended, it usually had an event shop hosted for one day after the even ended, but it never showed up this time, i missed a chance to get items. Charlie, i wish you could report this to the game, thank you! 🙏
Don't worry, the reward currency you recieved from that brawl event was actually the same currency as the turle shop currency so you haven't missed out on anything
My priorities are, in this order: Totem fragment, Red Turtles hero items, Turtles Soul Stones. I've actually already gotten all the Red Items I need to get Turtles fully color ranked up, and I'm already through Path of the Four level 340, just have 350 through 400 left. I also have over 450 pizza energy saved up at this point, so just waiting now phase 4 to start tomorrow night before going at it again. Just waiting to see if the buffs teams for path of the four on 380 and 390 come down at all. And yes, I have been buying the daily charge at various levels from the beginning of the event, so that is how I've gotten so far.
you wanna know what I am trying to get out of this event ??? EVERYTHING. I want all turtle stuff and all boss rewards, AND I got over 50 lab coins, which I spent 90% on skins, because I NEVA saw such an amazing value on skins. do the math.....and if you were smart you would BURN all your pizza on the 6 star relic to lower price of the coins!
@HeroWarsCentral Don't you have to buy a bundle of metals from the workshop treasury to be able to level up the Material Seeker without using up some of the pizza energy we're trying to save up for buffs to fight each Boss level?
I am puzzled: The Heavy Charge III in the video shows 42 pizza and 400 emeralds, whereas on my account it is only 30 pizza and 400 emeralds. Does it increase each day you buy the package?
@@HeroWarsCentral could depend on the currency. I have 30 as well but the store is in Japanese yen and translated into $ it’s cheaper at around 3.5 dollars.
Totems are regularly available through seasons but Turtles soul stones won’t so I will definitely buff my change spray and hope to be as lucky as I was during the Lara event. I prefer heroes over titans anyway as the synergies are way more interesting than titans, which are rock/paper/scissors.
@ That’s absolutely true. I do believe, however that once the turtles are really understood, where they excel might matter just like Lara matters a lot against Osh.
Could you please post rough win percentage for each team. It would be helpful knowing if a team posted is like 0.1 % or something. I think a lot of us without endless amounts of time like to stick to 1% or better. Thanks for all your advice
They've removed the randomness in the boss fights, so any team/buff that's given is 100% success. You just have to wait 5 minutes if you don't buy the season ticket (those fights are all very very close to using fully the 5 minutes time slot).
I am surprised that I managed this event. Normally I struggle in them. I couldn;t do Lara at all and I managed to get the Turtles into the Red with 9 days left....if this goes right, I should be able to max them out of everything and continue to get the other artifacts and stuff I need for the other events. We;ll see. Turtle Power.
Is the lvl 300 team correct? I keep running out of time, even with 30 buff. Krista, turtles and Astaroth all die early, then Heidi holds on till the end against Orion and Arachne. With no RNG this should be a slam dunk if the team is confirmed, right?
This video is specifically for people who have wasted their pizza on such things already, not those who are still saving for ch4. It was a good try, though. Better than most.
@@HeroWarsCentral Charlie, I'm not trying to be a wiseguy here. I planned on getting the Turtles leveled up, and passing on the totem fragment (since I never succeeded in getting one in past events). But it seems realistic this time. I spent a bit initially, on the first item (the one that increases the number of coins (I'm at work and can't open the game or go to the wiki here) I'm seriously asking what I need to do to get the totem, since it does seem realistic. Do I get the 4-Star Material Seeker first, then use materials to get through the Bosses? Please help me to understand.
Ah, we only need seeker 4? I guess I did my math wrong the first time and now and I need to go to 5 because I'm halfway there already ... :D It seems to be very close, I was probably using old numbers with higher buff requirements
Hate titans so not bothered about totem. Also, in almost all fights NT get wipe out before other hero's so they seem bit weak. Instead upgraded my other hero's like Arachne. Would like to get the Legendary and red gifts as well as the 250artifacts, 75k stones etc.
got my turtles to red 0 and might get them to red 1, I do not have the items yet to get past red 1, sitting at the level 250 boss with 374 pizza's, would like that totem
Wait a sec... I don't get 42 pizzas for last one (Daily Charges). I get 30. Others are the same.... So it can't be the same for those who get 42 and those who get 30.
You can get them on the Mysterious Island Map. Or by cashing in Turtle Coins on a gamble that you get Lab coins for them. There is a Bad-Luck-Protection initially. I think you're guaranteed to get a Lab coin on the first 3, another in 6, and one more guaranteed in 15. Then one in every 15 after that. ** I THINK!
@@JoeNardis Thanks for your explanation! I couldn't find the way to cashing turtle coins. Do you mind to tell me where i can find a gambling function?
A matter of perspective, I guess. $30 is surely not a huge amount of money for most of us but... A totem FRAGMENT (of which one needs a few to be competitive; a 1-star totem just doesn't do it) OR a full-blown Mortal Kombat 1 video game... Hmmm... tough choice! (I'm being sarcastic of course, it is MK1 all day long)
@@HeroWarsCentral I know, I was just kidding. Charlie, you have access to developers, why don't you ask them to conduct a test: Right now, the monthly active users base is 7 million. Among them, only 314K are paying users (according to their latest quarterly report). That is 4.5% (and the vast majority of them do not spend money on every single event, as well as do not spend a lot: just like you said, even a $0.99 payment counts as a paying user) So... what if GDEV tested a different approach $0.99 per event to get ALL rewards. If that was the case, I believe more than half of all users would start using real money. There are at least 2-3 events every week (they can manipulate and push 4-5 events per week easily), which translates to at least 100 events per year. If half of all players pays $100 per year (100 events at $0.99), that is 350M in revenues (triple of what they make now). And it would be smart too because it will lure people into paying what looks like just a buck (but it adds up over time). There are benefits to this approach for the gameplay. Everyone grows faster and has a chance to compete on top level much quicker (not 5-6 years down the road) Just give them this idea and ask them to test it. At hundreds of dollars per absolute star totem, not only they don't get revenues (because very few are willing to spend these sums) but players don't enjoy the game and quit. On our server, the second best guild just quit the game entirely. 0 guilds on our server gets all prestige rewards (because of inactivity) Just something to think about
@@HeroWarsCentral I know, I was just kidding. Charlie, you have access to developers, why don't you ask them to conduct a test: Right now, the monthly active users base is 7 million. Among them, only 314K are paying users (according to their latest quarterly report). That is 4.5% (and the vast majority of them do not spend money on every single event, as well as do not spend a lot: just like you said, even a $0.99 payment counts as a paying user) So... what if GDEV tested a different approach $0.99 per event to get ALL rewards. If that was the case, I believe more than half of all users would start using real money. There are at least 2-3 events every week (they can manipulate and push 4-5 events per week easily), which translates to at least 100 events per year. If half of all players pays $100 per year (100 events at $0.99), that is 350M in revenues (triple of what they make now). And it would be smart too because it will lure people into paying what looks like just a buck (but it adds up over time). There are benefits to this approach for the gameplay. Everyone grows faster and has a chance to compete on top level much quicker (not 5-6 years down the road) Just give them this idea and ask them to test it. At hundreds of dollars per absolute star totem, not only they don't get revenues (because very few are willing to spend these sums) but players don't enjoy the game and quit. On our server, the second best guild just quit the game entirely. 0 guilds on our server gets all prestige rewards (because of inactivity) Just something to think about
Charlie you give the wrong info you talk about that you need pizza energy that's wrong that are the buffs you need for getting to the 400 lvl boss so everybody needs to count out how many pizza energy they need 😆
I made a miscalculation sorry i need now only 174 pizza slices with a 3 star material seaker i forgot that i do get 4 crystals per 6 slices and i need a total of 1160 buffs from boss lvl 290
Look at Charlie, doing another misdirection video. He is hoping to mislead other players into getting other stuff, so he can be the only one with the top Turtle team. It is a clever tactic, Get everything you can, get your turtles going, they are a game changer. Totems can wait
@@HeroWarsCentral God no. I will have my 4th year next week and hopefully it will be more than just an avatar frame...and yeah I been spotting the plotholes, sometimes I do.
hum. .perhaps i need to look this video again, but I don t really get it how it should be under $30? ... the daily buff thing would made it $81 ...
That's if you have 0 pizza energy!
Free2play players can earn close to 1200 total pizza energy this event (spending nothing), so most players should have had access to around 400-600 energy so far.
@@HeroWarsCentral havent spent any pizza energy yet, except the minibosses in each chapter. did every task thats possible f2p from the minievents etc until now, curretnly at 640 pizza with 9 days left
You should be able to get the last 300 or so with ease!
@@HeroWarsCentral not with 0 star relic.
@@HeroWarsCentral The pizza numbers in the table present how many pizzas are needed to complete, if you already have the artifacts raised to the various levels. However, it should be modified to also account for the pizza/level requirements to do the artifact levelling too, as this is quite significant, particularly at the higher artifact levels.
For $1 you can get 9 pizzas, for $4 you can get 30, for $10 you can get 60. The best deal is the $1 every day.
i am not ever giving nexters a single cent, EVER.
As a F2P I will try to get as many yellow or red items for my main team and a manhole cover just in case I decide to get them to red in the future.
I've been using that spread sheet myself and had great success with it.
When there were multiple team options, i went for the lowest boost needed first and all were successful from the first try.
There was one that did not work, but it turned out there was a mistake in the lineup where you needed Astaroth instead of... i'm guessing Markus (a fight between level 300 and 390, dunno which exactly).
The 390 boss can be done slightly cheaper, with 270 buffs instead of 290, maybe i was lucky, but i managed to beat the boss in 1 try with that.
1 more boss to go ;)
Thanks Charlie, these videos and showing the buffs has really helped. I'm sitting at the 310 boss, and waiting for the Chapter 4 to begin and have enough pizza energy saved to get to the 400 boss.
Which elemental totem do you suggest if you have water, fire and dark? Earth or Light? I am leaning towards dungeon battles... thanks in advance Charlie...
I am expecting to get max everything: 6 star ninja turtle, totem, and a giant stack of ninja coins to buy stuff with. What I am pondering now is the tradeoff of coins vs. mats. Mats will convert to Splinter chests which are basically like lore bags. I have nearly 1800 energy - again because I am expecting to smash the Treasury. The question now is what is the cost for the final gold vase relic with its 14 levels.
the level of the seeker depends on the pizzas you will have for raids after you upgraded it.
Hey ^^. I made the calculation for myself. I am at boss level 350 with nearly 0 and i need 760 pizzas to reach the totem. That means even with the 600 in 10 days (around 81€) i won t have it. Too expensive for me. Thank you for the video.
So, Charlie, did anyone do any math (emerald value spreadsheet) of whether we should use up all of our coins opening manhole covers in the festival or just spend those coins in the shop? Again, I don't need red items. Too expensive!
As mentioned in the comment yesterday, 200K coins can give me around 50K skin stones OR 16K common crystals in the regular TMNT shop
The same 200K can give me around 100 manhole cover openings, which MAY give me 12 secret lab coins (based on your drop rate), which translate to 36K skin stones OR 12K common crystals, which is LESS than you can get at the regular shop
However, you also get other resources dropped on top of the secret lab coins. Which is why it is not clear which option is better. You received a few small skin stone and absolute artifact chests. Curious if they offer a better value than the difference between getting 36K skin stones (festival) and 50K skin stones (shop)
Yes they have! Here: www.herowarscentral.com/post/what-is-the-secret-lab-coins-drop-rate
And regarding to the brawl event that was just ended, it usually had an event shop hosted for one day after the even ended, but it never showed up this time, i missed a chance to get items. Charlie, i wish you could report this to the game, thank you! 🙏
Don't worry, the reward currency you recieved from that brawl event was actually the same currency as the turle shop currency so you haven't missed out on anything
@@44antman yes, i understand but i couldn't have a second to cash the red items with the currency anymore
My priorities are, in this order: Totem fragment, Red Turtles hero items, Turtles Soul Stones. I've actually already gotten all the Red Items I need to get Turtles fully color ranked up, and I'm already through Path of the Four level 340, just have 350 through 400 left. I also have over 450 pizza energy saved up at this point, so just waiting now phase 4 to start tomorrow night before going at it again. Just waiting to see if the buffs teams for path of the four on 380 and 390 come down at all. And yes, I have been buying the daily charge at various levels from the beginning of the event, so that is how I've gotten so far.
you wanna know what I am trying to get out of this event ??? EVERYTHING. I want all turtle stuff and all boss rewards, AND I got over 50 lab coins, which I spent 90% on skins, because I NEVA saw such an amazing value on skins. do the math.....and if you were smart you would BURN all your pizza on the 6 star relic to lower price of the coins!
arguably a bad strategy, i do not know if u really believe it or just want to fool people.
@@williamxu9134 both your options are not reasonable. because the fact is that I did it. And I did it for myself. good luck to you, sir.
@HeroWarsCentral Don't you have to buy a bundle of metals from the workshop treasury to be able to level up the Material Seeker without using up some of the pizza energy we're trying to save up for buffs to fight each Boss level?
I am puzzled: The Heavy Charge III in the video shows 42 pizza and 400 emeralds, whereas on my account it is only 30 pizza and 400 emeralds. Does it increase each day you buy the package?
Ive been hearing this a lot as well, I'm not sure why some players have 42 and others have 30
@@HeroWarsCentralHave you spent a couple of time on it?
@@dominiquejean5830 maybe, mine is 42 on both ACC, and I buy the first 2 every day
@@HeroWarsCentral could depend on the currency. I have 30 as well but the store is in Japanese yen and translated into $ it’s cheaper at around 3.5 dollars.
crucial thing is it better to do raids now or in treasury phase? for those who won't chase souls it will be very doubtful...
For people who don’t want a 6star ninja turtles, you can spend them whenever. But you’ll still get value if you wait for ch4
Totems are regularly available through seasons but Turtles soul stones won’t so I will definitely buff my change spray and hope to be as lucky as I was during the Lara event.
I prefer heroes over titans anyway as the synergies are way more interesting than titans, which are rock/paper/scissors.
They are, but they’re random and not this inexpensive.
@ That’s absolutely true. I do believe, however that once the turtles are really understood, where they excel might matter just like Lara matters a lot against Osh.
Great breakdown, thx
Glad it was helpful!
Please do not spend on this game unless you're 100% into it
Could you please post rough win percentage for each team. It would be helpful knowing if a team posted is like 0.1 % or something. I think a lot of us without endless amounts of time like to stick to 1% or better. Thanks for all your advice
They've removed the randomness in the boss fights, so any team/buff that's given is 100% success. You just have to wait 5 minutes if you don't buy the season ticket (those fights are all very very close to using fully the 5 minutes time slot).
I am surprised that I managed this event. Normally I struggle in them. I couldn;t do Lara at all and I managed to get the Turtles into the Red with 9 days left....if this goes right, I should be able to max them out of everything and continue to get the other artifacts and stuff I need for the other events. We;ll see. Turtle Power.
Is the lvl 300 team correct? I keep running out of time, even with 30 buff. Krista, turtles and Astaroth all die early, then Heidi holds on till the end against Orion and Arachne. With no RNG this should be a slam dunk if the team is confirmed, right?
@HeroWarsCentral
I'm confused.
I need a 4-Star Material Seeker first?
How do I get that?
Do I spend my pizzas to get it?
Please spell it out to me...
This video is specifically for people who have wasted their pizza on such things already, not those who are still saving for ch4.
It was a good try, though. Better than most.
@@HeroWarsCentral
Charlie, I'm not trying to be a wiseguy here.
I planned on getting the Turtles leveled up, and passing on the totem fragment (since I never succeeded in getting one in past events).
But it seems realistic this time.
I spent a bit initially, on the first item (the one that increases the number of coins (I'm at work and can't open the game or go to the wiki here)
I'm seriously asking what I need to do to get the totem, since it does seem realistic.
Do I get the 4-Star Material Seeker first, then use materials to get through the Bosses?
Please help me to understand.
Ah, we only need seeker 4? I guess I did my math wrong the first time and now and I need to go to 5 because I'm halfway there already ... :D It seems to be very close, I was probably using old numbers with higher buff requirements
5 is better overall. Helps with all the other relics!
The Mutagen Cube is a rip-off! The coin drop rate is abysmal!
Hello Charlie, I would like to send you a battle report with some really strange result, what is the best way?
i kept buying that $1 pizza from a wk ago and i saved 1112 pizza slices now with 4 stars and 5 stars seeker
This is amazing! I should have been suggesting that!!
Hate titans so not bothered about totem. Also, in almost all fights NT get wipe out before other hero's so they seem bit weak. Instead upgraded my other hero's like Arachne. Would like to get the Legendary and red gifts as well as the 250artifacts, 75k stones etc.
got my turtles to red 0 and might get them to red 1, I do not have the items yet to get past red 1, sitting at the level 250 boss with 374 pizza's, would like that totem
noticed on your video your charge 3 is 42 pizza and 400 emeralds mine and my GF is 30 pizza and 400 emeralds why is that?
Wait a sec... I don't get 42 pizzas for last one (Daily Charges). I get 30. Others are the same.... So it can't be the same for those who get 42 and those who get 30.
I’m seeing this a lot, I’m not sure what the problem is
Where can i get and spend the secret laboratory coins? The mission has 1 day left. Thanks
You can get them on the Mysterious Island Map. Or by cashing in Turtle Coins on a gamble that you get Lab coins for them.
There is a Bad-Luck-Protection initially. I think you're guaranteed to get a Lab coin on the first 3, another in 6, and one more guaranteed in 15. Then one in every 15 after that. ** I THINK!
@@JoeNardis Thanks for your explanation! I couldn't find the way to cashing turtle coins. Do you mind to tell me where i can find a gambling function?
Do you mind to explain how can i get the totem fragment? Actually i dont get how the totem fragment related to this clip. Lol
I found it. Thanks!
wtf ! why u get 42 for the last one ? in germany we get only 30 pizza -.-
thx for the vid !
Why do you refer to Turtles at Red 3? The max is Red 2. Also 9x9 = 81 😳
Red +3 is when you fill out all Red +2 items
Red3 is Red2, but with all 6 items equipped.
@ Thanks
@@Alexsandr-l8k Thanks
Thx Charlie
A matter of perspective, I guess. $30 is surely not a huge amount of money for most of us but...
A totem FRAGMENT (of which one needs a few to be competitive; a 1-star totem just doesn't do it) OR a full-blown Mortal Kombat 1 video game... Hmmm... tough choice! (I'm being sarcastic of course, it is MK1 all day long)
This is definitely a video that is for a VERY specific audience!
MK1 /yawn
@@HeroWarsCentral I know, I was just kidding. Charlie, you have access to developers, why don't you ask them to conduct a test:
Right now, the monthly active users base is 7 million. Among them, only 314K are paying users (according to their latest quarterly report). That is 4.5% (and the vast majority of them do not spend money on every single event, as well as do not spend a lot: just like you said, even a $0.99 payment counts as a paying user)
So... what if GDEV tested a different approach
$0.99 per event to get ALL rewards. If that was the case, I believe more than half of all users would start using real money. There are at least 2-3 events every week (they can manipulate and push 4-5 events per week easily), which translates to at least 100 events per year. If half of all players pays $100 per year (100 events at $0.99), that is 350M in revenues (triple of what they make now). And it would be smart too because it will lure people into paying what looks like just a buck (but it adds up over time).
There are benefits to this approach for the gameplay. Everyone grows faster and has a chance to compete on top level much quicker (not 5-6 years down the road)
Just give them this idea and ask them to test it. At hundreds of dollars per absolute star totem, not only they don't get revenues (because very few are willing to spend these sums) but players don't enjoy the game and quit. On our server, the second best guild just quit the game entirely. 0 guilds on our server gets all prestige rewards (because of inactivity)
Just something to think about
@@HeroWarsCentral I know, I was just kidding. Charlie, you have access to developers, why don't you ask them to conduct a test: Right now, the monthly active users base is 7 million. Among them, only 314K are paying users (according to their latest quarterly report). That is 4.5% (and the vast majority of them do not spend money on every single event, as well as do not spend a lot: just like you said, even a $0.99 payment counts as a paying user) So... what if GDEV tested a different approach $0.99 per event to get ALL rewards. If that was the case, I believe more than half of all users would start using real money. There are at least 2-3 events every week (they can manipulate and push 4-5 events per week easily), which translates to at least 100 events per year. If half of all players pays $100 per year (100 events at $0.99), that is 350M in revenues (triple of what they make now). And it would be smart too because it will lure people into paying what looks like just a buck (but it adds up over time). There are benefits to this approach for the gameplay. Everyone grows faster and has a chance to compete on top level much quicker (not 5-6 years down the road) Just give them this idea and ask them to test it. At hundreds of dollars per absolute star totem, not only they don't get revenues (because very few are willing to spend these sums) but players don't enjoy the game and quit. On our server, the second best guild just quit the game entirely. 0 guilds on our server gets all prestige rewards (because of inactivity) Just something to think about
lol what is this boring american fighting game propaganda I'm reading
omg, what have i done ?
web player. my heavy charge III is only 30 pizza.
is it absolute totem (6 stars?)
No
Charlie you give the wrong info you talk about that you need pizza energy that's wrong that are the buffs you need for getting to the 400 lvl boss so everybody needs to count out how many pizza energy they need 😆
I don't know it exactly but it looks like a miscalculation
I made a miscalculation sorry i need now only 174 pizza slices with a 3 star material seaker i forgot that i do get 4 crystals per 6 slices and i need a total of 1160 buffs from boss lvl 290
Look at Charlie, doing another misdirection video. He is hoping to mislead other players into getting other stuff, so he can be the only one with the top Turtle team. It is a clever tactic, Get everything you can, get your turtles going, they are a game changer. Totems can wait
You must be a new player. This strategy isn’t for you and you recognize that. Nice!
@@HeroWarsCentral God no. I will have my 4th year next week and hopefully it will be more than just an avatar frame...and yeah I been spotting the plotholes, sometimes I do.