For some reason youtube blocked out the channel banner for the mentioned youtuber so if you're wondering what that video sign is at the beginning that's why 🤷🏼♂️
No it was removed before it went up. I watched it after I uploaded in private mode so he wouldn't have seen it, plus let's face it, he ain't ever gonna watch my little old channel 🤣
@@NoviceWildCamper Dear Novice Wild Camper, I watched your review video about Long Term Naturehike 60l backpack review on UA-cam, and you really have done a great job on this. I love your video style very much. We are setting up a new business on[ camping chair] and hope to extend our business. So can you test the product for us? We will appreciate it and we can pay for your effort. Best Regards
I watched the other review first. Couldn't believe from the few things he said that it was that bad a bag. Especially to the point he said "DO NOT BUY". So I really appreciate this honest review from you countering some of the things he said. For the price this appears to be a rather decent bag for many situations. Thanks for your efforts to inform!
Thanks Kevin. Much appreciated. Its sad that he has the power to possibly ruin a decent product but I suppose that's what happens when you get too big. I've had this 18 months or so now and its a great bag that I would highly recommend 👍
Thank you for this review. Saw the other review with Luke first and thought I’d made a mistake with this purchase. Thanks for the thorough balanced review.
Ended the last 500 miles of 2021 exclusively with this pack. Not one single problem. I stand by this back if you are a taller person with a long medium to larger torso. Never once a shoulder or neck issue due to the strap design. Gonna exclusively use this pack for the enter year of 2022, meaning this pack will get around another 2500-3000 miles this year. I will check in periodically with the pack as I can. It's gonna get 125 miles between now and Monday to further start the new year off right. It got 77 miles between 12/31/21 and 1/2/22. (47 of those 1/1-1/2 to start the year off with its first trip of 22'). We have trips for every weekend in January with this weekend being the longest and the other trips between 55-75 or so miles so January 22 is gonna see plenty of action with this pack for the new year). Happy New Year!
Happy new year to you too. You're right there is nothing wrong with this bag. Took mine out for a hike and camp two days ago as haven't had it out for a while and no issues at all, quite the opposite. 👍
Brilliant video and excellent review. Whenever I see posts about people asking about what bag to buy, I'll happily post pros and cons of the ones I have but always add the caveat of that like all camping kit it's a very personal choice and what works for one will not work for another.
Exactly. To say its the worst bag in the world is a ridiculous comment. Does this mean he has the best house, car and camping equipment in the world just cos it works for him? 🤣 each to their own and horses for courses I say. Cheers Chris 👍
I am a 5 foot nine mail at about 210 pounds. Backpack fits me great. I took off the cordage on the side and replaced it with bungee cord and attached it into extra areas. Works fantastic. I also took the bungee cord and crisscrossed it over the pouch in the back. This gives me the ability to hang some clothes to dry him to store some extra items. I love the pack. I agree with your pros and cons.
Thanks. Yes I agree it's not just for tall people soong as you're wearing it right. I am also going to do this changes to it but at the moment doing a long term review on the qidian Pro.👍
Awesome and honest review. Thanks for sharing your apparently magical ability to take and replace water bottles from pockets too. I have had this pack for about a year, and I really like it a lot. I also have the 40L version as well. I haven't been able to take that one on a hike yet.
I have this pack like it. It is an entry level UL pack for some it’s priced right and served me very well I did upgrade to a ULA pack mostly because I wanted more space but it cost $300+ and I’m keeping the nature hike it fit me fine and I’m 5’11 150 ponds and blindingly good looking. Great review!!
I just watched his video then stumbled upon yours. Fantastic counter and great demonstrations. Subscribed right away. No train-wreck videos here so thank you!!!
Really appreciate this video. Five minutes before I watched the video you are referring to and was so disappointed and something told me to hang ten and see for a second review and came across your video Thank you I will definitely be purchasing 🙏
Cheers David. As I said it won't fit everyone or work for everyone as we're all different but to say its the worst bag in thr world is a ridiculous statement. Atb 👍
I too saw Luke's review and because I've watched so many of his before and valued so many of his other reviews it made me pause on getting this. Your review with a few others helped me to decide to get this rucksack. Its arrived today so need some time to confirm but so far looks good (carried 10kg for about 5 miles and felt good).
I don't know why he's got such a beef with this pack. Virtually everything he said was wrong. Bad really as he has such influence and so many comments on his vid said glad you did this I won't buy one now. Bad really.
Watches the other review AFTER waiting for my order and got totally stressed I might receive a very bad rucksack - received it and thought to myself wtf was he talking about, I can’t confirm any of that! Then I went deeper into yt and found your review - many thanks, really well done, honest review! My take: not the best ever but a pretty good bang for your buck, fits me well even I’m 1.86cm. It was 75€ when I bought it…
@AuxM490 exactly. Not really 'worse than a trash bag' as he described it. Guys an idiot as far as I'm concerned. That or maybe they wouldn't send him a free one so he slated it on purpose. He couldn't be more wrong on every aspect of this bag and yes, there are better bags out there but certainly not in this price range. I've had worse bags that are more expensive than this for sure 👍
I have this pack. Used it few times and I am 6ft 2 and its perfect for me. I've carried 15 / 16kg in the pack (above the recommended weight) for a couple miles hike and camp and it was fine. I've added some elastic on the front of the mesh pocket to mimic the more expensive bags for coat etc. Suits my needs fine
I have never seen a video on UA-cam with more than 100 comments, so that each comment contains a response from the author of the video. And here are 313 such comments. You are uniquely polite and attentive to the audience. Good luck!
Thanks buddy. I do miss some sometimes as often the comments doesn't show specially if its in a long group of comments but I always try and reply to everyone. Yours didn't pop up but I check my outstanding comment section regularly and saw this. Luckily I'm not so popular I can't keep up with them 🤣
@@NoviceWildCamper It’s a bit like a guy who drives a Cadillac telling the guy (me) who drives a Jeep that your car sucks. Different uses and expectations. I doubt whether a person who drives a Cadillac would know the capabilities of a Jeep and vice/versa.
I recently tried out the backpack & wanted it to work for me but sadly it didn’t. Probably due to my height 1.61m & not designed for female ‘features’. If they did a short torso version I’d definitely reconsider. It did feel like good quality material & smart design features. Thanks for the review Michael. Always good to hear your views.
Thanks Rachel. Exactly. Its never going to fit everyone but that's the same with all backpacks which is why I couldn't understand Lukes comments about it being the worst in the world. Horses for courses I say. Atb 👍
Luke from the OTHER channel can be very negative if he doesn't like something, he did the same with my tent all because he didn't know how to put the poles in correctly and ignored comments
It seems to be a common trait with him. His channel is so big that I think he doesn't need to respond to his viewers. Not a good way to run a channel in my mind 👍
68 miles on the AT in Virginia this past four days. I had the pack loaded with 22.5 pounds total weight for the four day trip. I had zero issues with the pack. There was plenty of room for my 15* Hyke and Byke Eolus sleeping bag, my 10 year old Mountainsmith (bad reviews from Luke) 2p tent that has about 7000 miles on it in the past 10 years. The shoulder straps never rubbed against my neck, unless I tightened down the center strap (which does not affect the load positioning on even the $400 packs), but as long as I left in a neutral position (as it should be) it was absolutely fine (the wife used the 40 +5L pack, which has no center strap across chest with no issues as well). It carried the load with no issue and placed the weight over the hips and legs as should. If I wanted to put some weight on the front of my shoulders, I adjusted the front load lifters to lift the load a little (not the load lifters on the shoulder, just the front load lifters) and put it on the front of my shoulders which is where about 20% of the load should be (not on the top and back of shoulders). We stayed above 4000 ft elevation for several miles on several occasions and scrambled across many rocky areas with no issues with the pack or load. We traveled under the rhododendrons with them dropping down and scrapping across the pack with no tears or rips. Naturehike states the 60L is not made for anyone under 5'7" and the 40L is not for anyone over 5'6". I would say that is true and not true, but I would measure to make sure the pack fits the neck to crown of the illiac crest. A friend of mine is 5'5" and the pack fit him well when he tried it for a couple mile (he has a 19" neck to illiac crest), but the 40L the wife was using fit another friend that is 5'11" (he has a shorter 17.5" torso....long as legs lol) with no issue. I'm 6'1" and 210 pounds and the pack worked perfect without a hiccup. I am going to use it again next month on the 40 mile trek across Maryland via the Appalachian Trail and again in December on the 78 mile trek through Georgia on the AT. That will put almost 200 miles on the pack in those three trips, not including the shorter two night trips we are doing on local trails between then (we backpack everyone other weekend). My main pack is the Gregory Katmai 55, but if this pack keeps going strong, it may become my go to until it wears out :). Just wanted to update you like I said i would when we came off the trail. Now, the five hour trip home.
That's awesome. Just goes to show you can't trust any negative reviews nowadays. People need to be impartial. Atb and cheers for keeping me updated. I'll be sure to mention it in another vid 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper It's my pleasure and I'll update each time I use this. Like I've said before, ppl mean well and then as they grow so does their ego. I'm sure he is a nice guy (obviously) and truly means well. I do continue to watch his channel and many of the cheaper things he reviews truly aren't any good. But I've got a butt load of equipment after doing this for 42 years and some of it is equipment that is claimed to be crap and it's not. I would say if you're going to steer ppl away from budget gear, be up front about it. I have high end and low end gear and both have their use depending what I am doing with it and the intended use for it is what matters. You can't review a $40 tent backpacking and claim it's not a backpacking tent when even the manufacturer doesn't claim it's a backpacking tent. Use most stuff for it's intended use and it'll usually work out fine. My brother and sister have never bought high end gear in their lives and everything they buy cheap they mod to fit what they want to use it for and it works. Anyway, I'll be out on the long trail again middle of next month and will update. Got a couple short overnighters between then and it will be used then as well :)
I think it’s a shame that so many will be put off trying the bag and will end up spending 3 or 4 times as much on something that may well not be as comfy. I tried an Osprey Atmos 65 recently which is allegedly the most comfy pack in the universe but I actually find the Naturehike suits me better and it’s a lot lighter. Horses for courses though.
Thank you sir for your thoughts on this backpack. I was reluctant to buy one after watching Luke's review but will give it a go now after watching this video.
He was way off on his review. It was like he was being paid to slate it. Even physical aspects like the neck size, pocket and water bottle holder size. All totally wrong. I've used this solid for nearly 3 years and I cannot find a fault with it. 👍
I watched the video mentioned. I thought it very strange. You explained the details and show the reality about the backpack. I bought one recently and i'm waiting it to go to my adventures. Thanks a lot, guy.
Cheers buddy. Its a shame he completely slated the bag just because he doesn't like it, doesn't mean it's a bad bag. I hate marzipan, doesn't mean everyone will 😂
The pack came in Monday afternoon. Packed it last night after work. Took it out at day break this A.M. for a 6 mile out 6 mile in hike at out local wildlife management area. No issues with load lifters coming loose. No issue with hip belt or shoulder strap coming loose. I was full loaded with my 5 day loadout of 23 pounds and did not feel it pulling on my shoulders. Did not hurt my hips. Definitely no rubbing on the neck from the shoulder straps, but maybe because I am 6'1" and 218 pounds with broad shoulders and the pack can't rub my neck. My bud that was with me hiked with it a mile and had no issues with rubbing, pulling load dropping, or anything, but he is also 6' and 230 pounds. Oh well, I'll know more when I take it out Friday thru Monday on the AT in southern Virginia.
@@NoviceWildCamper I'll post a good review here next week. We're leaving Thursday when I get off and heading to southern Virginia to do some AT miles. We were going to do 51 miles, but we've changed it going to do 74 miles from Friday to Monday. I think with the terrain in southern Virginia, it will be the perfect place to try this pack. There are several straight up climbs with no switch backs to relieve shoulder or leg stress from the pack pressing in the hips, and plenty of rock crossing that will require mobility and use of arms to involve the shoulders. I have an 18" neck and broad chest from working out, and I never felt a rub today at all. I was thankful it came in a couple days early as I thought I didn't hit the first delivery date option in time. More to come later next week, brother
Thx for this review. I did see the "famous youtuber review" and found it not very convincing. But I'm not giving up on Luke, I like his adventures too much for that.
Thank you for making this video. I saw the other 'all negative' video and felt it was just done to get viewership. Guess what? I just ordered my naturehike thanks to you!
That's great. It's an awesome pack and has never let me down. I know it won't be right for everyone like everything else, it's always down to personal preference but to say things like it's the worst pack in the world and you can't even fit keys in the side pockets is ridiculous. Thanks for watching. 👍
Thanks for making this review! I agree with everything you said. This bag needs more positive reviews because it's really a great bag at a great price. People on a budget should seriously look at this bag. I carried 29lbs 75 miles over 4 days and never once was uncomfortable. It fit everything I needed and on the trail I was able to eat and drink without stopping because of the hip and water bottle pockets. Thanks again!
@@NoviceWildCamper watching his review, I thought he went into it already knowing he wasn't going to like it before he even tried it. It seems like he made that review without an open mind.
Luke says, "This is the worst backpack I ever tested." What he meant was, "This backpack doesn't fit my small torso, so it must be the worst backpack for everyone."
Exactly. No backpack is ever going to be perfect for everyone. Its just sad that he has the influence to stop so many people buying what could be a perfectly good backpack. 🤷🏼♂️
Good review and comments exactly right - what one person likes another won't....I've just bought a Lowe Alpine 65 on a recommendation but its not for me so it's going back. Doesn't mean Lowe Alpine are crap. If we all thought the same and did the same life would have no variety! Some people buy a brand just to be seen to have it or rubbish a cheaper brand because it doesn't fit their image - all the gear, no idea.
Exactly my thoughts. There would be only one car, tent, food type etc. If there was no variety in what people liked. Ridiculous statement. Take a look at my Regatta vid in rain and high winds. Stood up to winds that most people would only take a hilleberg in but it worked and only £75, a tenth of a hilleberg. And let's face it, not many people get to take a hilleberg to its limits anyway so they're a bit overkill for most of the camping in this country. Atb 👍
Great review! I thought that his review was totally unfair to the pack also. I have used this pack for 2 1/2 years and have loved it. I do think that the bottle holder on the shoulder strap needs to be removable, but other than that I really like this pack. I do wish Naturehike would build some ventilation on the back panel.
Right there with you bruvver … it’s a great little pack for the price …. You covered everything …. Luke from the OGR probably overloaded it by packing out his Axe, big ass Rambo knife and his 38 handgun into the woods so sure it was uncomfortable … anything above 30lb and you definitely feel it on your shoulders… but then it’s not for that… it’s for overnighters or short multi day trips with lightweight gear and for that it’s perfect …. Great review ATB Dave Mc
Cheers David. I had to put it out there as he's so wrong with this one. I'm still loving it a year down the line. Very little to fault his bag. Cheers for watching 👍
Another 75 miles since Thursday on this pack. This pack totes 22 pounds easily every trip I've used it on far. This pack now has over 200 miles on my back. Before January 1, 2022, it will have 500 total miles. I'm going to keep the pack. Saw another video where Luke is now downing the Granite Gear pack, which I have as well (my son uses it and has over a 2000 miles on it). Perhaps if Luke tried gear that was proper to his small body size they may work better for him. Hard to test things that are too big for you and give it a bad review LOL. Anyway, I'm enjoying this pack and as I said, it totes well and when fitted for the proper body size it fits as should. Keep on keeping on, brother! Enjoy your videos, my friend!
Thanks Jami. It's a shame he'll never hear about it, or at least will never listen if he does. I saw that review pop up but ignored watching it as I knew he'd slate it just cos it doesn't fit him. Sad really.
@@NoviceWildCamper He's read or ignored the NH 60L because I made sure I posted on the video that starts, "your 100% wrong about this pack". Haha. Someone has already called him out on the GGCV2 and asked why he posted a great review of the pack a few months ago. Maybe he just forgot he already reviewed it. Someone linked the previous great review on the thread LOL. My sister and brother and I were backpack thru North Carolina a couple years ago. He's a big a ass and know it all in person as well. His following is a cult who clings to every word as gospel fact when many of the things he tries out he hooks up wrong, either is too big or not made for his small body frame and weak size. The first two comments on the GGCV2 disagreed with him and someone commented, "Luke says differently". Just wow, bro. That's all I could muster to myself on that stupid comment
He actually responded to a comment I made on his Vik 1 straight after he posted it so probably the only reason why he responded. He slated that too and I called him out and all he could do was say "you're a novice for a reason my friend" guys an idiot.
@@NoviceWildCamper Yea, I've met probably 25 youtubers in person out in the backcountry or some equipment shows across the country. Out of all the ones I've met, Luke and one other have been complete assh***s and their arrogant personalities have shown. If dude could actually figure out how to use the cross bar on a tent and understand it goes over the top and not under, he would stop showing his novice ability at trying to be a pro! I've been doing this crap since I was 10. I've been lost in woods and used my survival skills after making a wrong turn. It sucked for two days, but I made it out. I know I'm not a novice and I don't test stuff by sitting on the side of my property while I sleep in the house, only Luke and Bear G does that type stuff. I test my stuff in the real world and if I get wet, I know how to survive that as well
Not in the market for another backpack, but watched this anyway. Seemed a nice balanced review. I do a lot of day hikes with a cheap Indian made canvas bag - a copy of the hiking bag from my scouting days way back in the early 70s. Does me okay, as long as I don't overload it.
The way I see it is what suits one person won't suit another. For a tuber to say its the worst pack in the world is a ridiculous statement to make just because he didn't like it. Plus he made so many mistakes about it too. I was due to do a long term review on it but he spurred me to bring it out early. Cheers for watching. 👍
Love it mate👊 funny enough I watched is video before watching yours... Totally gutted because I just ordered it before looking it up... He mad me sick to the stomach lol then seeing yours made me feel much better.. I have subscribed 👍 keep the videos coming
Great review Michael, my osprey atmos is just over 3 inch as well!! Loving the bottle moves..don't know how u did that...its impossible 😂😂😂. Those hip pockets are def bigger than the ones I have as well. Absolutely correct about bags not fitting everyone the same, I have the osprey atmos ag50 which is supposed to be better at weight distribution than the rook. Yet I found the osprey rook better. Great honest review as per usual. All the best, paul 👍
Cheers Paul. I was going to give an honest long term review anyway but his got my goat a bit so thought nows the time to bring it out and be honest as I can. Atb 👍
Good review mate. I like Luke's channel because of the chance to see new kit as it comes out. I too disagree with a lot of his comment though. I had to laugh when he reviewed the Dutch army tent, and complained about it leaking in the rain. He had set it up completely wrong. I commented on this and like you got no reply. Regards JB. 👍
Yeah as far as I'm concerned it doesn't matter how big you get, you should always respond. Or if you're so big you don't have time then turn comments off 🤷🏼♂️ I think he slates a lot of stuff for the views tbh. If you say its all good it's boring isn't it 👍 atb
Nice constructive counterpoint to Luke's review...which I just saw. I thought it was odd the things he mentioned and how Naturehike could miss so badly on what is a pretty mature design so....glad I found your review. He, and pretty much every other reviewer out there harp on how sweaty their backs get. I've been hiking since the early 80s and never knew a sweaty back was a 'thing'. I figured since every other part of me was profusely sweating that my back would too and so, I have always had a sweaty back. I would actually prefer to have the pack snug against my back so it moves with me than have it separated in order to provide some small ventilation which, in the end does little. I don't have this bag but got a Granite Gear bag which appears to be very, very similar and I like it. Cheers and keep your back dry
Cheers buddy. I have another pack with mesh panel and a massive gap between it and the pack for ventilation. Still get a sweaty back 🤣 Luke was way too harsh. To say you can't even fit keys in the hip pocket is just ridiculous. I've got a leather man, lighter, pack of tissues, spare bungee cords and clips, loads of stuff. I reckon someone paid him to slate it. Very unfair.
I did see Luke’s review on this pack and some things I agreed with and others I was scratching my head. I have this pack and as a 5ft 2” lady with an 18” torso it was ok for short hikes but not for multiple day hikes. The quality is excellent and the features are great. I only had two issues:- 1. The sternum strap just didn’t work for me (it was more of an under the boob strap). 2. The torso length is not adjustable (22” - so it just didn’t fit me) Overall I agree that this pack is good value for money. My best mate Rebecca has the same pack and it fits her perfectly! (She’s very tall!) As you rightly said, we are all different sizes and shapes. What works for one person may not work for another. Your pack still looks like new! A good review Michael.
Cheers Julia. Exactly my thoughts. It won't fit everyone. Even Osprey do womens and mens, and for a reason but there's no options with naturehike so it won't fit anyone. Cheers for the comment 👍
Yeah he seems to go one way or the total opposite. No middle ground. It's either the best tent in the world or the absolute worst. Sad he has that much influence. I had the bag out last night night still loving it. 👍
I've been using the same pack for a while. The compression strap that wraps around the bag can be buckled after the rain fly is applied. It will help keep the fly on and the pack sinched down
Fantastic counter arguments to the “worst bag in the world” For around $70 I challenge anyone to find a better made and comfortable bag at that weight/price.
Thanks Esteban. And yes I don't think any bag is perfect for anyone let alone everyone but it's certainly not the worst bag in the world. Makes you wonder why he'd put out such a video. Thanks for watching and please subscribe if you haven't already as I will be doing more reviews soon. 🙏👍
Hey NWC, i very much appreciate your full and informative review. I currently use a Teton Sports Explorer 65 backpack for 4-day + hikes; it's a 65-liter pack that weighs 2.344 kilos. I'm looking for a lighter internal framed pack with with similar capacity. Does the Naturehike 60 l pack live up to its capacity claims, and how does it fare for comfort for long hikes with 13 kilo + pack weights?
@@NoviceWildCamper Thanks so much for your prompt reply. What about its claimed capacity of 60 + liters? What is your estimate of the capacity (liters) of its roll top main compartment?
The main compartment I think is sub 60l but in conjunction with the outer pockets then yes it's accurate. Chinese companies tend to add these into the overall litres so you have to be aware. Ive had more than enough gear in this with large winter tent and winter equipment plus I have to carry all my filming equipment and battery and power bank back ups so if you're not doing that as well then it's more than enough but obvisly depends what you pack. Take a 3 person black label hilleberg and you might struggle.
@@NoviceWildCamper Thanks again. The published capacity dimensions of my Teton Sports 65 liter backpack calculate up to the manufacturer's capacity claims and match my own measurements. Calculations of the Naturehike 60 liter backpack's published dimensions don't even match half of their claimed capacity. so I am very leary: hence my focus on their claims. It seems to me that this is more likely a 40 liter capacity pack if the outer pockets are included, which will not be sufficient for my needs. I've reached out to Naturehike directly for confirmation of their capacity claims, and unfortunately they have chosen not to respond which says a lot.
Thanks buddy. He just seemed so biased against it. No one can ever say something is the worst in the world as its horses for courses. Just because it doesn't suit.him or he can't work it out properly that's not the fault of the bag. Cheers for watching and commenting 👍
ı agree with all points except the sternum and none adjustable belt or shoulder. You are way taller than average so sternum fits and the pack torso length seems to fit you well. For the majority I believe these would be an issue like myself.
@dayoltay the belt can be marginally adjusted but obviously cannot cope with major height differences however they also make a smaller one as an option. The sternum can move fine for most people and to be honest, I know many many people who are 'normal' height and have bought this and love it.
Great thorough review Mike. Thank you. I’m looking at buying the 40+5L version of this pack for some long hiking. I’m shorter at 5’8. But like you mentioned, if it doesn’t fit, I can always sell on eBay. Btw, how waterproof have you found the pack’s material, with/without raincover? Cheers.
Cheers buddy. I must admit I haven't found a truly waterproof pack yet. Even the Qidian pro which ststes its waterproof and you don't need a cover still let water in. Luckily this one comes with the cover and I've used it each time it's rained and it's been fine but for added security I also use a nyloflume liner inside for my down gear and electrics. Can get them on outdoorgearessentials.co.uk website. Really useful. I've done a follow up review since this one comparing to the Qidian pro as that had one makor failure. Atb 👍
Mine has served me very well I have nothing bad to say about it at all I even like the pocket on the the shoulder strap holds a small water bottle which is what I like there and I refill with the two other water bottles it’s a very affordable first time pack for anyone who’s not sure what they want yet.
I liked your review and my only concern is it is not very adjustable. I am 5'8" and 160lbs and I can't imagine it will fit you at 6'4" the same as me at 5'8" with no adjustments. I like the hip belt to be around my hips of course so most packs you can adjust the shoulder straps up or down once you get the hip belt on so you carry the weight on your hips and not on your shoulders for the majority of the weight. All else seems perfect for me but I would like your comment regarding the One Size Fit's All approach on this pack?
Well I can't vouch for every size but I've seen some comments saying they've got it and it fits fine and theyre a lot smaller than me. There is some minor adjustment at the hip belt which may help. 👍
I have the 40l model. It is perfect for my practice of ultra-light long-distance semi-autonomous walking (night in a tent in negative temperatures at the end of autumn). I modified the bag a little, in the same way that I personalize all of my equipment. It now weighs 800g empty. In support, I have a total weight of 4.7 kg which rests mainly on the hips. Plus 1.5 kg of water, alcohol for the stove and food. This bag at 60€ delivered is no less comfortable and practical than a light walking bag at 200€. J'ai le modèle 40l. Il convient parfaitement à ma pratique de marche ultra légère longue distance en semi autonomie (nuit sous la tente par températures négatives de fin d'automne). J'ai un peu modifié le sac, de la même façon que je personnalise l'ensemble de mon matériel. Il pèse maintenant à vide 800g. En charge, j'ai un poids total de 4,7kg qui repose essentiellement sur les hanches. Plus 1,5 kg d'eau, alcool pour le réchaud et nourriture. Ce sac à 60€ livré n'est pas moins confortable et pratique qu'un sac de marche légère à 200€.
@@NoviceWildCamper My wife is a very good seamstress and we have a professional sewing machine. From this base, I modified the back foam by removing a large central strip. I recognize that this modification is not accessible to everyone. The goal was mainly to gain weight, but I also gain significantly in ventilation. The maintenance of the bag is done thanks to the self-inflating mattress roll inside. I don't use the rain cover. I walk with a very light umbrella which replaces both the cape and the rain cover. And I cut all the straps that stick out.
Could you pull the waist strap out entirely? I am looking for a second backpack that I might occaisionaly lend to my skinny little boy scout nephew. Last time I lent him a pack he couldn't get the waist band tight enough, which led me to wonder if there is a decent ultralight pack that I could potentially swap in custom made belt for skeleton boy.
That made me giggle. Wish I had the same problem 🤣 yes you can remove the waist strap completely if need be. It is only held in place by a velcro pad for adjusting up and down slightly or just pull it straight out. 👍
I'll be going for a mountain trekking for the first time on October for 3 days, and I'm a woman whose 149cm tall...I don't know which Bag do I buy... I've read good and bad comments here... Any recommendations for a short girl?😢 HELP
They do different sizes of this bag now but thus still may be too big for you. If you measure your torso length and check on the naturehike website it will show if its suitable. If not I'd recommend going into a proper hiking shop and getting measured for a bag and testing it out in the shop. Good luck 👍
I have a Lowe Alpine, Gregory, Osprey (like the one Luke wears), and several off brands. I use them all for different types of hikes or backpacking trips. Most of the shoulder straps (even on the Osprey like Luke's) is barely over 3 inches. I also have several tents he has reviewed and says they were crap and I've used them for between 10-20 years with no issues. Funny how a majority of ppl can have the same things he is reviewing for so long and never have issues with them. He's a good guy, but sometimes, ppl become arrogant in what they're doing, unfortunately.
Totally agree and the sad thing is I see so many comments on his videos thanking him for the review and saying they'll make sure they or anyone they know never buys the product he's reviewed. He's too biased and definitely big headed. If he doesn't like something (or maybe had to pay for it) then he slates it rather than saying its just not for him. Sad. Cheers for the comment buddy atb 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper anytime, brother! I don’t like bashing folks, but sometimes it can be warranted. I’m not a UA-camr, but I’m 53 and I’ve been backpacking for 42 years now. I’ve thru hiked several big trails and smaller trails such as the JMT and BMT and Colorado Trail, that’s why I have so many packs and equipment. Because of the two of you, I have now ordered this pack in the 40+5 to try it out. It’ll be in Wednesday and will be tried out on the AT the weekend
No big deal if you lose the pack cover.. they’re useless anyway. The part of the pack that will take on the most water is the part resting against your back and the only part of the pack not covered.
@@NoviceWildCamper yeah that’s all I use in my pack.. the cover will give some protection, and depending on the pack also. But it definitely doesn’t hurt to have the redundancies in place.
I'm happy with my Naturehike 60l too, though the waterbladder tube holes really do confuse me. Is it possible to get an adapter sheath to put inside the pack, perhaps? I'd certainly like to use a bladder with this. Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the great video and review. Good timing as I've been looking at these along with the 3f UL ones. It just goes to show how different the other bloke sees things. Liked + Sub'd 👍
Hahaha what a great review love it, it’s becoming a trend with a little minority of tubers, that if it’s not a branded name, it’s rubbish and not going do the job, great review 👍👍👍
@@NoviceWildCamper he probably was mate, he must have massive keys if he can’t fit them in the side pocket haha, but yeah totally agree, some of his comments don’t make sense 👍
Magic Mike! Great review buddy with some good points raised, looks like a pretty decent bag in all fairness. Shots were fired and i'm hoping he shoots back! 😂 Atb Daz & Andy 😁👍🏻🏕
@@NoviceWildCamper thanks a lot! and tue frame never hurt you hm? i have heard some times that the frame could hurt. But i can trust your bomb proof reviews that are also funny
@Pasequale100 I think the frame may depend on your size as I've heard some say it rubs but I also believe they have upgraded it since then as this was a long time ago.
🤣🤣 out of sheer mischief I watched the ‘other’ review - I was giggling furiously hearing your comments in my head & your Paul Daniel’s magic tricks!! I think he must have got out of bed the wrong side when he reviewed the pack. Or maybe very hung over hence the shades? Either way I suspect that they had something to do with the blocking. PS. The harness straps on my rucksack sack are also 3”
Yeah I keep thinking he was paid to slate it or something. Not sure why he made such ridiculous comments. How can you not fit keys in the hip pockets for example? How big are his keys!!!??? I could have got two protein bars in with the mobile phone I put in. Madness. Glad it made you laugh though 😂👍
I tried this, and I found it uncomfortable compared to my other backpacks. Packed it nearly with the total weight being 10kg and it just wasn’t right compared to my other backpacks. Felt heavier carrying it and it rubbed on my neck/shoulder area. Gutted because it looked really nice :/
It may be your size? Not sure how tall you are but as they only do one size I've heard a couple of people say it doesn't suit short torsos. I mist admit, after using it for nearly 3 years now, it's been excellent and never let me down 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper I thought I’d get away with it being 5ft 10”, I have a longish torso. I guess I’m just one of the people it didn’t fit which is a shame.
Hi. I'd still like recommend it if you want a framed pack. It has never let me down. However I also reviewed the 3ful qidian pro against this on a later video as that is frameless and lighter but it failed due to tearing at the hip belts which is a shame as I really liked that bag. 3ful have sent me a new upgraded version to test out and I've been using it most of this year and so far it has been faultless so if you want lighter you could look at this new one. 👍
@fishy7026 there were a few upgrades but I can't find the messages from them. I've been using it for most of this year and so far it's been spot on. They claim its waterproof, as do many, but it's not fully waterproof like every other bag that says it is and then provides a cover for it so I'd recommend a nyloflume pack liner which is what is use and then don't have to worry about anything getting wet. 👍
Luke (outdoorgearreview) is a small guy (5'5") & of course not all rucksacks, especially ' one size fits all' models, which have to be based on average heights & builds, may not fit him & people of his size. This particular bag seems to have more positive views than negative, so it probably isn't as bad as Luke made out, it just wasn't a ruck for him.
Exactly sl for him to say its basically the worst pack in the world is a ridiculous comment from someone so allegedly experienced. Very poor review from him. It won't fit everyone for sure but what about all the other comments like can't fit a water bottle in it, pockets won't even fit keys in it. He was wrong on so many levels on this one it felt like he was being paid to slate it.
@@NoviceWildCamper Yeah. I think he didn't really like the pack from the outset a so tried to find faults. I have some doubts about his reviews, particularly rucksacks, as he has dozens of rucksacks & can't possibly have used them all enough to gather sufficient experience to form an objective opinion unless he was on the trail 24/7. Walking a few hundred yards up on his 'mountain' isn't really a serious method of testing a rucksack. Though I wouldn't buy (or not buy ) anything on his recommendation, he does bring to our attention gear that we wouldn't usually know about.
I own this pack. And have had zero problems with it. I've seen the famous you tuber review of this Pack and knew he was full of it. I don't even bother watching his reviews anymore as he seems more and more like a armchair quarterback
Anyone interested in buying one I have owned this since launch used 3 times and it will not be being used again by me genuine pain in back and collarbones after use. On paper it's fantastic, quality also fantastic you just need to be specially bred to fit the straps really. It's either gonna fit and work or it's not gonna fit and is actually painful to use.
@@NoviceWildCamper It is I'm not ashamed to say I used the highly popular Creeper from Aliexpress prior to this. I have had my eye on this bag since the first video of the American lady complaining of back pain and ordered it straight away hoping to love it. I'm 6.1 165 pounds 40ch 32w with a 21 inch back. I too watched Luke's review and took it up Snowdon last Tuesday in an act of defiance and unfortunately for me I am still feeling the pain today. Really wanted it to be great, with a bit of hunting can pick up an exos 48 new under £160. I too am tight due to being a carer nowadays but after my experiences I'm going to treat my packs like footwear and try not to make any compromises without needing a loan. All the best and happy it works for you brother 👍
🤣 hope it works well for you. It won't suit everyone but some of his negatives just didn't make sense. Says he can't fit his keys in the hip pockets!!! Madness. Atb 👍
It's certainly not dyneema. They do make it in a couple of different materials but I cannot find it anywhere. But mine is the 420d nylon standard one which is lighter than the other option theu do anyway. 👍
Tough one. Both has their own merits. I will be doing a long term review of both soon though. I prefer the qidian but its showing some wear. Keep an eye out for the review video 👍
Put another 78 miles on the pack the past four days. I still disagree 100% with Luke! This pack is really good. Will be putting another 39 miles on it in 2 weeks. By January 1, 2022 this pack will have almost 500 miles on it by then. I am going to be using this pack until it gets 1000 miles on it attempting to check the wear and tear on it in that many miles. This far, for a $100 bag, I think it's pretty good, but I'll know soon enough how it handles with time and miles on it. I plan on this being the only pack I use for the next year.
It's a shame he'll never know how good it is as he wouldn't listen to anyone else. So many people commented on his video saying it was a great bag but he just ignored them and let's the money roll in. Sad.
@@NoviceWildCamper Yea, but now that a subscriber sent in a $750 tent, it's the best backpacking tent ever used. I find that funny, because it weighs 6 pound and some odd ounces. He talked trashed about a backpacking tent weighing 5 pounds two weeks prior. The problem I have with that, is the tent he talked trash about actually only weighs 4 pounds 5 ounces and is a tent I've been using 14 years that's been tested in the wilderness for that many years. I only use it now on 2 night trips because I now have the Big Agnes that I got on sale,
Is there any advantage in going for the dyneema version vs the regular nylon? Naturehike lists the dyneema version (1.31 kg) as heavier than the regular nylon (1.16 kg). Thanks.
That one wasn't available when I got mine and personally i wouldn't have got it due to the extra weight. Dyneema should be lighter if anything so it is odd that it is heavier. In theory it dhojld at least be more hard wearing but I have had zero issues with wear on this pack. 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper My thoughts exactly. I'm thinking of opting for the nylon version myself. I think they "upgraded" the series; although I don't exactly know what "upgraded" actually refers to. Thanks!
@@NoviceWildCamper Just back from my first test of this pack. What a great value. It works well for my torso length and height (6'0""). It does have quirks. I can see how the front left "bottle holder" can interfere with women and is a design flaw for that demographic unfortunately. It works well to hold my can of bear spray. It does have quirks. But I love it overall. Very light and comfortable when adjusted correctly.
Yeah I've has zero issues with it so far. Admittedly been using the qidian Pro recently however that is already showing wear and tear yet the naturehike looks like new 👍
Dear Novice Wild Camper, I watched your review video about Long Term Naturehike 60l backpack review on UA-cam, and you really have done a great job on this. I love your video style very much. We are setting up a new business on[ camping chair] and hope to extend our business. So can you test the product for us? We will appreciate it and we can pay for your effort. Best Regards
I think everybody should just buy the granite gear crown 2 if they got the money and want a decent lightweight pack. It's definitely overlooked. They sell them on the Ultralight outdoor gear store.cost just over £200. It weighs 1142 grams but if you remove the hood and take out the frame. I got it down to 892 grams. It's my favourite pack. Maybe I should do a review on it. Everything is perfect about it. They are made in the USA but not many shops sells them here. I watched lukes video this evening. Man he hates that pack lol. It looks good though.
Yeah but it's £200! Thats mad money for something the same weight and does the same job as mine at £53 🤷🏼♂️ what makes it any better? For a budget pack this is definitely one of the best 👍
When something as personal as a pack fitting, it's a bit unwise to say everyone should buy one. It's available as 3 sizes but not being adjustable was an issue for me as one was too small, the other too large leaving it unpleasant to wear.
Yes, I tried the Granite gear, wasn't right for me. A Montane fitted great. Your review is great, describes features and that's all you can do. I never recommend bags or foot wear - too personal. For instance I love Salewa shoes as I have very narrow feet and it's one of a limited number of brands that fit (and sadly expensive!). Wife has wide short feet and she hates the Salewa shoes and says Regatta are more comfortable.
You expect me to believe you over the LONE WOLF. his review really upset you didn't it. Fair play for correcting it ha. Unless your an alien of course.seems a good pack, I was surprised also of the negative review. Cause I've always been interested in that pack myself but never brought myself to buy it. I doubt I will now though cause I'm trying to get the best gear out on the market.UGQ quilt next ohh yeeaahhh. Be great if he actually watches your video and responds. That would definitely be interesting. Great video Mr novice ohh yeeaahhh
What sorcery is this that enables you to hold a bottle with just one hand?! Is this The Force? Young Master Luke is not yet of the Jedi. Learn from bad comments will he. See Grand Master Daniels and learn yoga must he :-)
For some reason youtube blocked out the channel banner for the mentioned youtuber so if you're wondering what that video sign is at the beginning that's why 🤷🏼♂️
No it was removed before it went up. I watched it after I uploaded in private mode so he wouldn't have seen it, plus let's face it, he ain't ever gonna watch my little old channel 🤣
@@NoviceWildCamper Dear Novice Wild Camper,
I watched your review video about Long Term Naturehike 60l backpack review on UA-cam, and you really have done a great job on this. I love your video style very much. We are setting up a new business on[ camping chair] and hope to extend our business. So can you test the product for us? We will appreciate it and we can pay for your effort.
Best Regards
@@tanvirrahman2997 hi. Yes sure. Are you on Facebook to contact directly?
@@tanvirrahman2997 never did hear back from you.
I watched the other review first. Couldn't believe from the few things he said that it was that bad a bag. Especially to the point he said "DO NOT BUY". So I really appreciate this honest review from you countering some of the things he said. For the price this appears to be a rather decent bag for many situations. Thanks for your efforts to inform!
Thanks Kevin. Much appreciated. Its sad that he has the power to possibly ruin a decent product but I suppose that's what happens when you get too big. I've had this 18 months or so now and its a great bag that I would highly recommend 👍
Thank you for this review. Saw the other review with Luke first and thought I’d made a mistake with this purchase. Thanks for the thorough balanced review.
Cheers buddy. Its been a faultless pack since I've had it 👍
Ended the last 500 miles of 2021 exclusively with this pack. Not one single problem. I stand by this back if you are a taller person with a long medium to larger torso. Never once a shoulder or neck issue due to the strap design. Gonna exclusively use this pack for the enter year of 2022, meaning this pack will get around another 2500-3000 miles this year. I will check in periodically with the pack as I can. It's gonna get 125 miles between now and Monday to further start the new year off right. It got 77 miles between 12/31/21 and 1/2/22. (47 of those 1/1-1/2 to start the year off with its first trip of 22'). We have trips for every weekend in January with this weekend being the longest and the other trips between 55-75 or so miles so January 22 is gonna see plenty of action with this pack for the new year). Happy New Year!
Happy new year to you too. You're right there is nothing wrong with this bag. Took mine out for a hike and camp two days ago as haven't had it out for a while and no issues at all, quite the opposite. 👍
Brilliant video and excellent review. Whenever I see posts about people asking about what bag to buy, I'll happily post pros and cons of the ones I have but always add the caveat of that like all camping kit it's a very personal choice and what works for one will not work for another.
Exactly. To say its the worst bag in the world is a ridiculous comment. Does this mean he has the best house, car and camping equipment in the world just cos it works for him? 🤣 each to their own and horses for courses I say. Cheers Chris 👍
I am a 5 foot nine mail at about 210 pounds. Backpack fits me great. I took off the cordage on the side and replaced it with bungee cord and attached it into extra areas. Works fantastic. I also took the bungee cord and crisscrossed it over the pouch in the back. This gives me the ability to hang some clothes to dry him to store some extra items. I love the pack. I agree with your pros and cons.
Thanks. Yes I agree it's not just for tall people soong as you're wearing it right. I am also going to do this changes to it but at the moment doing a long term review on the qidian Pro.👍
Awesome and honest review. Thanks for sharing your apparently magical ability to take and replace water bottles from pockets too. I have had this pack for about a year, and I really like it a lot. I also have the 40L version as well. I haven't been able to take that one on a hike yet.
Took years of training in the magic circle to be able to do that. Penn and Teller still can't work it out 😂 cheers for watching.
I have this pack like it. It is an entry level UL pack for some it’s priced right and served me very well I did upgrade to a ULA pack mostly because I wanted more space but it cost $300+ and I’m keeping the nature hike it fit me fine and I’m 5’11 150 ponds and blindingly good looking. Great review!!
Thanks brendan. Yes uts a great pack, not as ultralight as some but for £50 you can't beat it. Cheers for watching 👍
I just watched his video then stumbled upon yours. Fantastic counter and great demonstrations. Subscribed right away. No train-wreck videos here so thank you!!!
Thanks buddy. I'm hoping his video recommends mine 🤣
Really appreciate this video. Five minutes before I watched the video you are referring to and was so disappointed and something told me to hang ten and see for a second review and came across your video
Thank you I will definitely be purchasing 🙏
It's a great back. Still use it but currently testing out the 3ful qidian Pro due to the previously models failure. 👍
My daughter bought this and loves it and completely agress with your review.
Cheers David. As I said it won't fit everyone or work for everyone as we're all different but to say its the worst bag in thr world is a ridiculous statement. Atb 👍
I too saw Luke's review and because I've watched so many of his before and valued so many of his other reviews it made me pause on getting this. Your review with a few others helped me to decide to get this rucksack. Its arrived today so need some time to confirm but so far looks good (carried 10kg for about 5 miles and felt good).
I don't know why he's got such a beef with this pack. Virtually everything he said was wrong. Bad really as he has such influence and so many comments on his vid said glad you did this I won't buy one now. Bad really.
Watches the other review AFTER waiting for my order and got totally stressed I might receive a very bad rucksack - received it and thought to myself wtf was he talking about, I can’t confirm any of that!
Then I went deeper into yt and found your review - many thanks, really well done, honest review!
My take: not the best ever but a pretty good bang for your buck, fits me well even I’m 1.86cm.
It was 75€ when I bought it…
@AuxM490 exactly. Not really 'worse than a trash bag' as he described it. Guys an idiot as far as I'm concerned. That or maybe they wouldn't send him a free one so he slated it on purpose. He couldn't be more wrong on every aspect of this bag and yes, there are better bags out there but certainly not in this price range. I've had worse bags that are more expensive than this for sure 👍
I have this pack. Used it few times and I am 6ft 2 and its perfect for me. I've carried 15 / 16kg in the pack (above the recommended weight) for a couple miles hike and camp and it was fine. I've added some elastic on the front of the mesh pocket to mimic the more expensive bags for coat etc. Suits my needs fine
Yes I was looking at adding some bungee cord. It's a great pack and I've had zero problems with it. 👍
I have never seen a video on UA-cam with more than 100 comments, so that each comment contains a response from the author of the video. And here are 313 such comments. You are uniquely polite and attentive to the audience. Good luck!
Thanks buddy. I do miss some sometimes as often the comments doesn't show specially if its in a long group of comments but I always try and reply to everyone. Yours didn't pop up but I check my outstanding comment section regularly and saw this. Luckily I'm not so popular I can't keep up with them 🤣
Well spoken, demonstrated and explained…nicely done.
Thanks Rick. I found it hard not to be a little sarcastic 🤣👍
@@NoviceWildCamper It’s a bit like a guy who drives a Cadillac telling the guy (me) who drives a Jeep that your car sucks. Different uses and expectations. I doubt whether a person who drives a Cadillac would know the capabilities of a Jeep and vice/versa.
Thank you for honest review...
No probs buddy 👍
This was the fairest review that could be done. thanks man 👍🏻
@@s.mobinmuosavi6046 cheers buddy. Some people just slate things cos they're paid to promote others.
I recently tried out the backpack & wanted it to work for me but sadly it didn’t. Probably due to my height 1.61m & not designed for female ‘features’. If they did a short torso version I’d definitely reconsider. It did feel like good quality material & smart design features.
Thanks for the review Michael. Always good to hear your views.
Thanks Rachel. Exactly. Its never going to fit everyone but that's the same with all backpacks which is why I couldn't understand Lukes comments about it being the worst in the world. Horses for courses I say. Atb 👍
Luke from the OTHER channel can be very negative if he doesn't like something, he did the same with my tent all because he didn't know how to put the poles in correctly and ignored comments
It seems to be a common trait with him. His channel is so big that I think he doesn't need to respond to his viewers. Not a good way to run a channel in my mind 👍
I find mine really comfortable and it never slips down off the hips like my Vango did. This bag is a good bag.
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Yep. I don't see what his problem was. A couple of niggles but I lover. No bag is going to be perfect 👍
Thank you for this honest and true review.
No problem. Had to put it right 👍
68 miles on the AT in Virginia this past four days. I had the pack loaded with 22.5 pounds total weight for the four day trip. I had zero issues with the pack. There was plenty of room for my 15* Hyke and Byke Eolus sleeping bag, my 10 year old Mountainsmith (bad reviews from Luke) 2p tent that has about 7000 miles on it in the past 10 years. The shoulder straps never rubbed against my neck, unless I tightened down the center strap (which does not affect the load positioning on even the $400 packs), but as long as I left in a neutral position (as it should be) it was absolutely fine (the wife used the 40 +5L pack, which has no center strap across chest with no issues as well). It carried the load with no issue and placed the weight over the hips and legs as should. If I wanted to put some weight on the front of my shoulders, I adjusted the front load lifters to lift the load a little (not the load lifters on the shoulder, just the front load lifters) and put it on the front of my shoulders which is where about 20% of the load should be (not on the top and back of shoulders). We stayed above 4000 ft elevation for several miles on several occasions and scrambled across many rocky areas with no issues with the pack or load. We traveled under the rhododendrons with them dropping down and scrapping across the pack with no tears or rips. Naturehike states the 60L is not made for anyone under 5'7" and the 40L is not for anyone over 5'6". I would say that is true and not true, but I would measure to make sure the pack fits the neck to crown of the illiac crest. A friend of mine is 5'5" and the pack fit him well when he tried it for a couple mile (he has a 19" neck to illiac crest), but the 40L the wife was using fit another friend that is 5'11" (he has a shorter 17.5" torso....long as legs lol) with no issue. I'm 6'1" and 210 pounds and the pack worked perfect without a hiccup. I am going to use it again next month on the 40 mile trek across Maryland via the Appalachian Trail and again in December on the 78 mile trek through Georgia on the AT. That will put almost 200 miles on the pack in those three trips, not including the shorter two night trips we are doing on local trails between then (we backpack everyone other weekend). My main pack is the Gregory Katmai 55, but if this pack keeps going strong, it may become my go to until it wears out :). Just wanted to update you like I said i would when we came off the trail. Now, the five hour trip home.
That's awesome. Just goes to show you can't trust any negative reviews nowadays. People need to be impartial. Atb and cheers for keeping me updated. I'll be sure to mention it in another vid 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper It's my pleasure and I'll update each time I use this. Like I've said before, ppl mean well and then as they grow so does their ego. I'm sure he is a nice guy (obviously) and truly means well. I do continue to watch his channel and many of the cheaper things he reviews truly aren't any good. But I've got a butt load of equipment after doing this for 42 years and some of it is equipment that is claimed to be crap and it's not. I would say if you're going to steer ppl away from budget gear, be up front about it. I have high end and low end gear and both have their use depending what I am doing with it and the intended use for it is what matters. You can't review a $40 tent backpacking and claim it's not a backpacking tent when even the manufacturer doesn't claim it's a backpacking tent. Use most stuff for it's intended use and it'll usually work out fine. My brother and sister have never bought high end gear in their lives and everything they buy cheap they mod to fit what they want to use it for and it works. Anyway, I'll be out on the long trail again middle of next month and will update. Got a couple short overnighters between then and it will be used then as well :)
Well said that man! I have the Dyneema version and I don’t have any of the issues mentioned in that other review. I think it’s a great bag.
Thanks Colin. I was going to do a long term review anyway but he spurred me on to defend it 👍
I think it’s a shame that so many will be put off trying the bag and will end up spending 3 or 4 times as much on something that may well not be as comfy. I tried an Osprey Atmos 65 recently which is allegedly the most comfy pack in the universe but I actually find the Naturehike suits me better and it’s a lot lighter. Horses for courses though.
Exactly. It's wrong to give such bad advice and reviews. 👍
My pack squeeks like a barn door every step. Have to remove that frame inside.
Odd. Don't get a single noise from mine. How tall are you? Have you tried adjusting the waste band?
Great perspective and review of the bag Mike some very valid advice 💪💪👍🏴
Cheers buddy. I was going to put a long term review up anyway but he spurred me on a little and I get defensive 😂
Thank you sir for your thoughts on this backpack. I was reluctant to buy one after watching Luke's review but will give it a go now after watching this video.
He was way off on his review. It was like he was being paid to slate it. Even physical aspects like the neck size, pocket and water bottle holder size. All totally wrong. I've used this solid for nearly 3 years and I cannot find a fault with it. 👍
I watched the video mentioned. I thought it very strange. You explained the details and show the reality about the backpack. I bought one recently and i'm waiting it to go to my adventures. Thanks a lot, guy.
Cheers buddy. Its a shame he completely slated the bag just because he doesn't like it, doesn't mean it's a bad bag. I hate marzipan, doesn't mean everyone will 😂
@@NoviceWildCamper That's true. Thanks for answering. Cheers!
The pack came in Monday afternoon. Packed it last night after work. Took it out at day break this A.M. for a 6 mile out 6 mile in hike at out local wildlife management area. No issues with load lifters coming loose. No issue with hip belt or shoulder strap coming loose. I was full loaded with my 5 day loadout of 23 pounds and did not feel it pulling on my shoulders. Did not hurt my hips. Definitely no rubbing on the neck from the shoulder straps, but maybe because I am 6'1" and 218 pounds with broad shoulders and the pack can't rub my neck. My bud that was with me hiked with it a mile and had no issues with rubbing, pulling load dropping, or anything, but he is also 6' and 230 pounds. Oh well, I'll know more when I take it out Friday thru Monday on the AT in southern Virginia.
Thanks for that Jami. Just goes to show you can't trust everyone's review no matter how big their channel eh? Glad you're liking it so far. Atb 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper I'll post a good review here next week. We're leaving Thursday when I get off and heading to southern Virginia to do some AT miles. We were going to do 51 miles, but we've changed it going to do 74 miles from Friday to Monday. I think with the terrain in southern Virginia, it will be the perfect place to try this pack. There are several straight up climbs with no switch backs to relieve shoulder or leg stress from the pack pressing in the hips, and plenty of rock crossing that will require mobility and use of arms to involve the shoulders. I have an 18" neck and broad chest from working out, and I never felt a rub today at all. I was thankful it came in a couple days early as I thought I didn't hit the first delivery date option in time. More to come later next week, brother
Thx for this review. I did see the "famous youtuber review" and found it not very convincing. But I'm not giving up on Luke, I like his adventures too much for that.
Yeah I'll still watch his channel I was just surprised about how much he slated the bag. 🙏👍
Thank you for making this video. I saw the other 'all negative' video and felt it was just done to get viewership.
Guess what? I just ordered my naturehike thanks to you!
That's great. It's an awesome pack and has never let me down. I know it won't be right for everyone like everything else, it's always down to personal preference but to say things like it's the worst pack in the world and you can't even fit keys in the side pockets is ridiculous. Thanks for watching. 👍
Thanks for making this review! I agree with everything you said. This bag needs more positive reviews because it's really a great bag at a great price. People on a budget should seriously look at this bag. I carried 29lbs 75 miles over 4 days and never once was uncomfortable. It fit everything I needed and on the trail I was able to eat and drink without stopping because of the hip and water bottle pockets. Thanks again!
Cheers buddy. It had to be said. Cant believe luke gave it such a bad review just cos it didn't fit him. Reckon he's the one with alien proportions 🤣👍
@@NoviceWildCamper watching his review, I thought he went into it already knowing he wasn't going to like it before he even tried it. It seems like he made that review without an open mind.
I said before it's like he's been paid by a competitor to slate it the way he went about it.
@@NoviceWildCamper he claims that's never the case, but watching that review it makes you wonder....
Luke says, "This is the worst backpack I ever tested." What he meant was, "This backpack doesn't fit my small torso, so it must be the worst backpack for everyone."
Exactly. No backpack is ever going to be perfect for everyone. Its just sad that he has the influence to stop so many people buying what could be a perfectly good backpack. 🤷🏼♂️
your video is much more elaborate and reasonable, very good
Thanks buddy 👍
Good review and comments exactly right - what one person likes another won't....I've just bought a Lowe Alpine 65 on a recommendation but its not for me so it's going back. Doesn't mean Lowe Alpine are crap. If we all thought the same and did the same life would have no variety! Some people buy a brand just to be seen to have it or rubbish a cheaper brand because it doesn't fit their image - all the gear, no idea.
Exactly my thoughts. There would be only one car, tent, food type etc. If there was no variety in what people liked. Ridiculous statement. Take a look at my Regatta vid in rain and high winds. Stood up to winds that most people would only take a hilleberg in but it worked and only £75, a tenth of a hilleberg. And let's face it, not many people get to take a hilleberg to its limits anyway so they're a bit overkill for most of the camping in this country. Atb 👍
And that's why I bought the Regatta as well.....and it's great for £70! Why buy a £600 tent when you don't need to!
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Great review! I thought that his review was totally unfair to the pack also. I have used this pack for 2 1/2 years and have loved it. I do think that the bottle holder on the shoulder strap needs to be removable, but other than that I really like this pack. I do wish Naturehike would build some ventilation on the back panel.
Cheers buddy. Yeah it does get a bit sweaty although I also have a vango mesh arch pack and I sweat with that too 🤣
Thank you for good review.
Decent reasonable backpack.
I recommend this, too.
Cheers buddy 👍
Right there with you bruvver … it’s a great little pack for the price …. You covered everything …. Luke from the OGR probably overloaded it by packing out his Axe, big ass Rambo knife and his 38 handgun into the woods so sure it was uncomfortable … anything above 30lb and you definitely feel it on your shoulders… but then it’s not for that… it’s for overnighters or short multi day trips with lightweight gear and for that it’s perfect …. Great review ATB Dave Mc
Cheers dave. I don't know why he has such a downer on it. Maybe he's under five foot tall 😂👍
Am after light weight back pack have not made up my mind yet thanks for the review
No probs Steve. Its a great bag for the price. 👍 atb.
Thanks for your counterpoint. I own the bag and I agree with you. For the price, it can’t be beat.
Cheers David. I had to put it out there as he's so wrong with this one. I'm still loving it a year down the line. Very little to fault his bag. Cheers for watching 👍
Another 75 miles since Thursday on this pack. This pack totes 22 pounds easily every trip I've used it on far. This pack now has over 200 miles on my back. Before January 1, 2022, it will have 500 total miles. I'm going to keep the pack. Saw another video where Luke is now downing the Granite Gear pack, which I have as well (my son uses it and has over a 2000 miles on it). Perhaps if Luke tried gear that was proper to his small body size they may work better for him. Hard to test things that are too big for you and give it a bad review LOL. Anyway, I'm enjoying this pack and as I said, it totes well and when fitted for the proper body size it fits as should. Keep on keeping on, brother! Enjoy your videos, my friend!
Thanks Jami. It's a shame he'll never hear about it, or at least will never listen if he does. I saw that review pop up but ignored watching it as I knew he'd slate it just cos it doesn't fit him. Sad really.
@@NoviceWildCamper He's read or ignored the NH 60L because I made sure I posted on the video that starts, "your 100% wrong about this pack". Haha. Someone has already called him out on the GGCV2 and asked why he posted a great review of the pack a few months ago. Maybe he just forgot he already reviewed it. Someone linked the previous great review on the thread LOL. My sister and brother and I were backpack thru North Carolina a couple years ago. He's a big a ass and know it all in person as well. His following is a cult who clings to every word as gospel fact when many of the things he tries out he hooks up wrong, either is too big or not made for his small body frame and weak size. The first two comments on the GGCV2 disagreed with him and someone commented, "Luke says differently". Just wow, bro. That's all I could muster to myself on that stupid comment
He actually responded to a comment I made on his Vik 1 straight after he posted it so probably the only reason why he responded. He slated that too and I called him out and all he could do was say "you're a novice for a reason my friend" guys an idiot.
@@NoviceWildCamper Yea, I've met probably 25 youtubers in person out in the backcountry or some equipment shows across the country. Out of all the ones I've met, Luke and one other have been complete assh***s and their arrogant personalities have shown. If dude could actually figure out how to use the cross bar on a tent and understand it goes over the top and not under, he would stop showing his novice ability at trying to be a pro! I've been doing this crap since I was 10. I've been lost in woods and used my survival skills after making a wrong turn. It sucked for two days, but I made it out. I know I'm not a novice and I don't test stuff by sitting on the side of my property while I sleep in the house, only Luke and Bear G does that type stuff. I test my stuff in the real world and if I get wet, I know how to survive that as well
Not in the market for another backpack, but watched this anyway. Seemed a nice balanced review. I do a lot of day hikes with a cheap Indian made canvas bag - a copy of the hiking bag from my scouting days way back in the early 70s. Does me okay, as long as I don't overload it.
The way I see it is what suits one person won't suit another. For a tuber to say its the worst pack in the world is a ridiculous statement to make just because he didn't like it. Plus he made so many mistakes about it too. I was due to do a long term review on it but he spurred me to bring it out early. Cheers for watching. 👍
Love it mate👊 funny enough I watched is video before watching yours... Totally gutted because I just ordered it before looking it up... He mad me sick to the stomach lol then seeing yours made me feel much better.. I have subscribed 👍 keep the videos coming
Cheers buddy. Yeah I'd had the bag a long time and still have it. Its never missed a beat. Best bag I've had, you'll love it. Cheers for the sub 👌👍
Great review Michael, my osprey atmos is just over 3 inch as well!! Loving the bottle moves..don't know how u did that...its impossible 😂😂😂. Those hip pockets are def bigger than the ones I have as well. Absolutely correct about bags not fitting everyone the same, I have the osprey atmos ag50 which is supposed to be better at weight distribution than the rook. Yet I found the osprey rook better. Great honest review as per usual. All the best, paul 👍
Cheers Paul. I was going to give an honest long term review anyway but his got my goat a bit so thought nows the time to bring it out and be honest as I can. Atb 👍
Good review mate. I like Luke's channel because of the chance to see new kit as it comes out. I too disagree with a lot of his comment though. I had to laugh when he reviewed the Dutch army tent, and complained about it leaking in the rain. He had set it up completely wrong. I commented on this and like you got no reply. Regards JB. 👍
Yeah as far as I'm concerned it doesn't matter how big you get, you should always respond. Or if you're so big you don't have time then turn comments off 🤷🏼♂️ I think he slates a lot of stuff for the views tbh. If you say its all good it's boring isn't it 👍 atb
You make many good points. Just note that Naturehike sells a 40L+5L version that is made for smaller torsos.
Yes I think they brought that out later. I didn't realise till after I made this video. Cheers for watching?
Nice constructive counterpoint to Luke's review...which I just saw. I thought it was odd the things he mentioned and how Naturehike could miss so badly on what is a pretty mature design so....glad I found your review. He, and pretty much every other reviewer out there harp on how sweaty their backs get. I've been hiking since the early 80s and never knew a sweaty back was a 'thing'. I figured since every other part of me was profusely sweating that my back would too and so, I have always had a sweaty back. I would actually prefer to have the pack snug against my back so it moves with me than have it separated in order to provide some small ventilation which, in the end does little. I don't have this bag but got a Granite Gear bag which appears to be very, very similar and I like it. Cheers and keep your back dry
Cheers buddy. I have another pack with mesh panel and a massive gap between it and the pack for ventilation. Still get a sweaty back 🤣 Luke was way too harsh. To say you can't even fit keys in the hip pocket is just ridiculous. I've got a leather man, lighter, pack of tissues, spare bungee cords and clips, loads of stuff. I reckon someone paid him to slate it. Very unfair.
@@NoviceWildCamper Agreed. It seemed a bit harsh given they have a lot of gear out there
I did see Luke’s review on this pack and some things I agreed with and others I was scratching my head.
I have this pack and as a 5ft 2” lady with an 18” torso it was ok for short hikes but not for multiple day hikes. The quality is excellent and the features are great. I only had two issues:-
1. The sternum strap just didn’t work for me (it was more of an under the boob strap).
2. The torso length is not adjustable (22” - so it just didn’t fit me)
Overall I agree that this pack is good value for money. My best mate Rebecca has the same pack and it fits her perfectly! (She’s very tall!)
As you rightly said, we are all different sizes and shapes. What works for one person may not work for another.
Your pack still looks like new!
A good review Michael.
Cheers Julia. Exactly my thoughts. It won't fit everyone. Even Osprey do womens and mens, and for a reason but there's no options with naturehike so it won't fit anyone. Cheers for the comment 👍
I agree with every sound point you made in this video. I find Luke to be overly negative about almost everything he reviews.
Yeah he seems to go one way or the total opposite. No middle ground. It's either the best tent in the world or the absolute worst. Sad he has that much influence. I had the bag out last night night still loving it. 👍
I've been using the same pack for a while. The compression strap that wraps around the bag can be buckled after the rain fly is applied. It will help keep the fly on and the pack sinched down
Good idea. I've generally used that strap for holding down the roll top but gives it another option 👍
Fantastic counter arguments to the “worst bag in the world” For around $70 I challenge anyone to find a better made and comfortable bag at that weight/price.
Exactly. Don't know why he has such a downer on it. I also noticed he never responds to any comments either. Cheers for watching 👍
Yes! I completely agree! Not perfect, but a great backpack for the price range!
Thanks Esteban. And yes I don't think any bag is perfect for anyone let alone everyone but it's certainly not the worst bag in the world. Makes you wonder why he'd put out such a video. Thanks for watching and please subscribe if you haven't already as I will be doing more reviews soon. 🙏👍
3F UL is regularly less than $60 and is raved about
Exactly. Cant beat it for the price 👍
Hey NWC, i very much appreciate your full and informative review. I currently use a Teton Sports Explorer 65 backpack for 4-day + hikes; it's a 65-liter pack that weighs 2.344 kilos. I'm looking for a lighter internal framed pack with with similar capacity. Does the Naturehike 60 l pack live up to its capacity claims, and how does it fare for comfort for long hikes with 13 kilo + pack weights?
@briangeoghegan2592 13kg plus is a breeze for this pack. I've regularly had it around 17kg in the past no problem 👌
@@NoviceWildCamper Thanks so much for your prompt reply.
What about its claimed capacity of 60 + liters? What is your estimate of the capacity (liters) of its roll top main compartment?
The main compartment I think is sub 60l but in conjunction with the outer pockets then yes it's accurate. Chinese companies tend to add these into the overall litres so you have to be aware. Ive had more than enough gear in this with large winter tent and winter equipment plus I have to carry all my filming equipment and battery and power bank back ups so if you're not doing that as well then it's more than enough but obvisly depends what you pack. Take a 3 person black label hilleberg and you might struggle.
@@NoviceWildCamper Thanks again. The published capacity dimensions of my Teton Sports 65 liter backpack calculate up to the manufacturer's capacity claims and match my own measurements. Calculations of the Naturehike 60 liter backpack's published dimensions don't even match half of their claimed capacity. so I am very leary: hence my focus on their claims. It seems to me that this is more likely a 40 liter capacity pack if the outer pockets are included, which will not be sufficient for my needs. I've reached out to Naturehike directly for confirmation of their capacity claims, and unfortunately they have chosen not to respond which says a lot.
I watched your video and I also watched his, and your video so your video was a more fair review than what he's was, thank you for a great video.
Thanks buddy. He just seemed so biased against it. No one can ever say something is the worst in the world as its horses for courses. Just because it doesn't suit.him or he can't work it out properly that's not the fault of the bag. Cheers for watching and commenting 👍
Good points and great review 👍
Cheers buddy. Didnt want one person's view to ruin a good bag 👍
ı agree with all points except the sternum and none adjustable belt or shoulder. You are way taller than average so sternum fits and the pack torso length seems to fit you well. For the majority I believe these would be an issue like myself.
@dayoltay the belt can be marginally adjusted but obviously cannot cope with major height differences however they also make a smaller one as an option. The sternum can move fine for most people and to be honest, I know many many people who are 'normal' height and have bought this and love it.
Thanks for the review
No problem Kim. Thanks for watching. 👍
Great thorough review Mike. Thank you. I’m looking at buying the 40+5L version of this pack for some long hiking. I’m shorter at 5’8. But like you mentioned, if it doesn’t fit, I can always sell on eBay. Btw, how waterproof have you found the pack’s material, with/without raincover? Cheers.
Cheers buddy. I must admit I haven't found a truly waterproof pack yet. Even the Qidian pro which ststes its waterproof and you don't need a cover still let water in. Luckily this one comes with the cover and I've used it each time it's rained and it's been fine but for added security I also use a nyloflume liner inside for my down gear and electrics. Can get them on outdoorgearessentials.co.uk website. Really useful. I've done a follow up review since this one comparing to the Qidian pro as that had one makor failure. Atb 👍
What a lovely review,stay safe debs.
Thanks debs 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper My pleasure,you have a lovely channel .debs
Thanks debs that's much appreciated 🙏👍
Mine has served me very well I have nothing bad to say about it at all I even like the pocket on the the shoulder strap holds a small water bottle which is what I like there and I refill with the two other water bottles it’s a very affordable first time pack for anyone who’s not sure what they want yet.
Totally agree. It's a shame he slated it so much as he has a lot of influence. Cheers for watching. 👍
I liked your review and my only concern is it is not very adjustable. I am 5'8" and 160lbs and I can't imagine it will fit you at 6'4" the same as me at 5'8" with no adjustments. I like the hip belt to be around my hips of course so most packs you can adjust the shoulder straps up or down once you get the hip belt on so you carry the weight on your hips and not on your shoulders for the majority of the weight. All else seems perfect for me but I would like your comment regarding the One Size Fit's All approach on this pack?
Well I can't vouch for every size but I've seen some comments saying they've got it and it fits fine and theyre a lot smaller than me. There is some minor adjustment at the hip belt which may help. 👍
Glad you mention your hight. I'm 6'4 too. I think the famous negative review is due to the reviewer's hight. He is much shorter.
True he is short but that doesn't stop him fitting his keys in the side pockets or a bottle in the drink holder. 🤔😂
I have the 40l model. It is perfect for my practice of ultra-light long-distance semi-autonomous walking (night in a tent in negative temperatures at the end of autumn). I modified the bag a little, in the same way that I personalize all of my equipment. It now weighs 800g empty. In support, I have a total weight of 4.7 kg which rests mainly on the hips. Plus 1.5 kg of water, alcohol for the stove and food. This bag at 60€ delivered is no less comfortable and practical than a light walking bag at 200€.
J'ai le modèle 40l. Il convient parfaitement à ma pratique de marche ultra légère longue distance en semi autonomie (nuit sous la tente par températures négatives de fin d'automne). J'ai un peu modifié le sac, de la même façon que je personnalise l'ensemble de mon matériel. Il pèse maintenant à vide 800g. En charge, j'ai un poids total de 4,7kg qui repose essentiellement sur les hanches. Plus 1,5 kg d'eau, alcool pour le réchaud et nourriture. Ce sac à 60€ livré n'est pas moins confortable et pratique qu'un sac de marche légère à 200€.
Sounds great. What modifications did you do?
@@NoviceWildCamper My wife is a very good seamstress and we have a professional sewing machine. From this base, I modified the back foam by removing a large central strip. I recognize that this modification is not accessible to everyone. The goal was mainly to gain weight, but I also gain significantly in ventilation. The maintenance of the bag is done thanks to the self-inflating mattress roll inside. I don't use the rain cover. I walk with a very light umbrella which replaces both the cape and the rain cover. And I cut all the straps that stick out.
Sound like some good mods 👍
I’m glad I watched his cry baby review glad I found u I thought I was the only one that thought his review was bs
Thanks buddy. I've had so many people say he is full of it and cos he such a short a$$ he hates certain things. Shame as he's so influential 👍
Could you pull the waist strap out entirely? I am looking for a second backpack that I might occaisionaly lend to my skinny little boy scout nephew. Last time I lent him a pack he couldn't get the waist band tight enough, which led me to wonder if there is a decent ultralight pack that I could potentially swap in custom made belt for skeleton boy.
That made me giggle. Wish I had the same problem 🤣 yes you can remove the waist strap completely if need be. It is only held in place by a velcro pad for adjusting up and down slightly or just pull it straight out. 👍
The load lifters looks to be placed wrong on this pack. They should be above your shoulders. Maybe not a big deal if your pack is light enough.
Not had a problem with them. I've had this up to around 15kg load and it's been fine 👍
I'll be going for a mountain trekking for the first time on October for 3 days, and I'm a woman whose 149cm tall...I don't know which Bag do I buy... I've read good and bad comments here... Any recommendations for a short girl?😢 HELP
They do different sizes of this bag now but thus still may be too big for you. If you measure your torso length and check on the naturehike website it will show if its suitable. If not I'd recommend going into a proper hiking shop and getting measured for a bag and testing it out in the shop. Good luck 👍
I have a Lowe Alpine, Gregory, Osprey (like the one Luke wears), and several off brands. I use them all for different types of hikes or backpacking trips. Most of the shoulder straps (even on the Osprey like Luke's) is barely over 3 inches. I also have several tents he has reviewed and says they were crap and I've used them for between 10-20 years with no issues. Funny how a majority of ppl can have the same things he is reviewing for so long and never have issues with them. He's a good guy, but sometimes, ppl become arrogant in what they're doing, unfortunately.
Totally agree and the sad thing is I see so many comments on his videos thanking him for the review and saying they'll make sure they or anyone they know never buys the product he's reviewed. He's too biased and definitely big headed. If he doesn't like something (or maybe had to pay for it) then he slates it rather than saying its just not for him. Sad. Cheers for the comment buddy atb 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper anytime, brother! I don’t like bashing folks, but sometimes it can be warranted. I’m not a UA-camr, but I’m 53 and I’ve been backpacking for 42 years now. I’ve thru hiked several big trails and smaller trails such as the JMT and BMT and Colorado Trail, that’s why I have so many packs and equipment. Because of the two of you, I have now ordered this pack in the 40+5 to try it out. It’ll be in Wednesday and will be tried out on the AT the weekend
Same age here. Not been camping and hiking as long as you but its in my blood 😂 atb 👍
Good show thanks
Cheers Willis 👍
nice video. thank you very much!
Cheers buddy. 👍
No big deal if you lose the pack cover.. they’re useless anyway. The part of the pack that will take on the most water is the part resting against your back and the only part of the pack not covered.
To be honest I just use a nyloflume loner now but the pack cover did help in the pouring rain on several occasions.
@@NoviceWildCamper yeah that’s all I use in my pack.. the cover will give some protection, and depending on the pack also. But it definitely doesn’t hurt to have the redundancies in place.
Thanks.
I'm happy with my Naturehike 60l too, though the waterbladder tube holes really do confuse me. Is it possible to get an adapter sheath to put inside the pack, perhaps? I'd certainly like to use a bladder with this. Thanks for the review!
Ah, apparently the holes are for venting when you roll it closed.
Oh. I'm sure it says h20 on it somewhere. I'll have to have a look 😂👍
Thanks for the great video and review. Good timing as I've been looking at these along with the 3f UL ones. It just goes to show how different the other bloke sees things. Liked + Sub'd 👍
Ah thanks Ed. I was looking at the 3F one but preferred the look of this one. Loved it so far. Thanks for the sub buddy 🙏👍
Hahaha what a great review love it, it’s becoming a trend with a little minority of tubers, that if it’s not a branded name, it’s rubbish and not going do the job, great review 👍👍👍
Cheers buddy. Some of the comments he made just didn't make sense. It was like he was being paid by a competitor to slate it 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper he probably was mate, he must have massive keys if he can’t fit them in the side pocket haha, but yeah totally agree, some of his comments don’t make sense 👍
Yeah I forgot he said he couldn't even fit keys in the pocket. Madness 😂👍
@@NoviceWildCamper you know what, I’m going measure the straps on my pack, see if I’ve got an alien 👽 neck 👍
We're all obviously aliens apart from Luke 🤣
Hii, i would like to know if the Shoulder Straps are confortable and soft? Thanks
Hi. Yes very. I've had no problems with then at all. 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper that's great 😃 Thank you 🙏🏻
@@NoviceWildCamper I wanna buy for me the Naturehike Rock 40+5 it's will fits better in me 😃
Magic Mike! Great review buddy with some good points raised, looks like a pretty decent bag in all fairness. Shots were fired and i'm hoping he shoots back! 😂 Atb Daz & Andy 😁👍🏻🏕
Doubt he'll ever hear about my vid let alone watch it Daz 🤣 I just hope it helps others that watch his negative unjust comments. 👍
And I think that's a different kind of magic 🤣
Can i fit a iphone max in either the hipbelt pocket or the shoulder pocket?
@Pasequale100 yes easy
@@NoviceWildCamper thanks a lot! and tue frame never hurt you hm? i have heard some times that the frame could hurt. But i can trust your bomb proof reviews that are also funny
@Pasequale100 I think the frame may depend on your size as I've heard some say it rubs but I also believe they have upgraded it since then as this was a long time ago.
🤣🤣 out of sheer mischief I watched the ‘other’ review - I was giggling furiously hearing your comments in my head & your Paul Daniel’s magic tricks!! I think he must have got out of bed the wrong side when he reviewed the pack. Or maybe very hung over hence the shades? Either way I suspect that they had something to do with the blocking. PS. The harness straps on my rucksack sack are also 3”
Yeah I keep thinking he was paid to slate it or something. Not sure why he made such ridiculous comments. How can you not fit keys in the hip pockets for example? How big are his keys!!!??? I could have got two protein bars in with the mobile phone I put in. Madness. Glad it made you laugh though 😂👍
@@NoviceWildCamper The keys are probably the size of their cars & egos....🤭. The coffee you like is on offer at Sainsbury’s!
Ooh I'll check it out. Tesco normally do a deal on them but they're back up to full price now. 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper 😘😘
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I tried this, and I found it uncomfortable compared to my other backpacks. Packed it nearly with the total weight being 10kg and it just wasn’t right compared to my other backpacks. Felt heavier carrying it and it rubbed on my neck/shoulder area. Gutted because it looked really nice :/
It may be your size? Not sure how tall you are but as they only do one size I've heard a couple of people say it doesn't suit short torsos. I mist admit, after using it for nearly 3 years now, it's been excellent and never let me down 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper I thought I’d get away with it being 5ft 10”, I have a longish torso. I guess I’m just one of the people it didn’t fit which is a shame.
That is a shame. Certainly not short for sure.
Hi mate, would you still recommend in 2023 or are there any new and improved for around the same price point
Hi. I'd still like recommend it if you want a framed pack. It has never let me down. However I also reviewed the 3ful qidian pro against this on a later video as that is frameless and lighter but it failed due to tearing at the hip belts which is a shame as I really liked that bag. 3ful have sent me a new upgraded version to test out and I've been using it most of this year and so far it has been faultless so if you want lighter you could look at this new one. 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper Is this upgraded version on sale i was impressed with it on your review
Yes. Its available from the 3FUL website 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper is the upgrade just better reinforced hip belt seems?
@fishy7026 there were a few upgrades but I can't find the messages from them. I've been using it for most of this year and so far it's been spot on. They claim its waterproof, as do many, but it's not fully waterproof like every other bag that says it is and then provides a cover for it so I'd recommend a nyloflume pack liner which is what is use and then don't have to worry about anything getting wet. 👍
You actually have a video 👍👌
He can be a bit judgemental and picky. I love my river country tent he hated. I'm gonna love this pack too when it comes in.
So many people have said the same. Shame he can't be unbiased as he's got such a following it ruins a good bag for a lot of people 👍
For some reason your second comment got removed just to let you know I'm not ignoring whatever it was 😂👍
It's gone again. Are you putting a link? Sometimes kicks it off. Message me direct on Facebook if you need 👍
Luke (outdoorgearreview) is a small guy (5'5") & of course not all rucksacks, especially ' one size fits all' models, which have to be based on average heights & builds, may not fit him & people of his size. This particular bag seems to have more positive views than negative, so it probably isn't as bad as Luke made out, it just wasn't a ruck for him.
Exactly sl for him to say its basically the worst pack in the world is a ridiculous comment from someone so allegedly experienced. Very poor review from him. It won't fit everyone for sure but what about all the other comments like can't fit a water bottle in it, pockets won't even fit keys in it. He was wrong on so many levels on this one it felt like he was being paid to slate it.
@@NoviceWildCamper Yeah. I think he didn't really like the pack from the outset a so tried to find faults. I have some doubts about his reviews, particularly rucksacks, as he has dozens of rucksacks & can't possibly have used them all enough to gather sufficient experience to form an objective opinion unless he was on the trail 24/7. Walking a few hundred yards up on his 'mountain' isn't really a serious method of testing a rucksack. Though I wouldn't buy (or not buy ) anything on his recommendation, he does bring to our attention gear that we wouldn't usually know about.
I own this pack. And have had zero problems with it. I've seen the famous you tuber review of this Pack and knew he was full of it. I don't even bother watching his reviews anymore as he seems more and more like a armchair quarterback
Thanks Huggy. Yeah I've unsubbed him. Fame has gone to his head I think. Thanks for watching. 👍
Anyone interested in buying one I have owned this since launch used 3 times and it will not be being used again by me genuine pain in back and collarbones after use. On paper it's fantastic, quality also fantastic you just need to be specially bred to fit the straps really. It's either gonna fit and work or it's not gonna fit and is actually painful to use.
Shame. As I said, hordes for courses, it's not for everyone
@@NoviceWildCamper It is I'm not ashamed to say I used the highly popular Creeper from Aliexpress prior to this. I have had my eye on this bag since the first video of the American lady complaining of back pain and ordered it straight away hoping to love it. I'm 6.1 165 pounds 40ch 32w with a 21 inch back. I too watched Luke's review and took it up Snowdon last Tuesday in an act of defiance and unfortunately for me I am still feeling the pain today. Really wanted it to be great, with a bit of hunting can pick up an exos 48 new under £160. I too am tight due to being a carer nowadays but after my experiences I'm going to treat my packs like footwear and try not to make any compromises without needing a loan. All the best and happy it works for you brother 👍
🤣 hope it works well for you. It won't suit everyone but some of his negatives just didn't make sense. Says he can't fit his keys in the hip pockets!!! Madness. Atb 👍
May i know what material for this bag? as i saw at same place it claim dyneema
It's certainly not dyneema. They do make it in a couple of different materials but I cannot find it anywhere. But mine is the 420d nylon standard one which is lighter than the other option theu do anyway. 👍
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@@NoviceWildCamper i have bought a small pouch from naturehike & very happy with their quality
Between this one and the 3F UL Qidian Pro, which one do you prefer?
Tough one. Both has their own merits. I will be doing a long term review of both soon though. I prefer the qidian but its showing some wear. Keep an eye out for the review video 👍
You nailed this review. Subbed
Thanks buddy. Much appreciated 🙏 👍
Can’t be that popular this other geezer when I’m watching Mike novice wild camper every week and not a clue who other person is 🤣
🤣 cheers dan. Don't think I'll ever get to his status though. Atb 🤣
Can only try. Always great stuff il still be watching 👍
Cheers dan 👍
Put another 78 miles on the pack the past four days. I still disagree 100% with Luke! This pack is really good. Will be putting another 39 miles on it in 2 weeks. By January 1, 2022 this pack will have almost 500 miles on it by then. I am going to be using this pack until it gets 1000 miles on it attempting to check the wear and tear on it in that many miles. This far, for a $100 bag, I think it's pretty good, but I'll know soon enough how it handles with time and miles on it. I plan on this being the only pack I use for the next year.
It's a shame he'll never know how good it is as he wouldn't listen to anyone else. So many people commented on his video saying it was a great bag but he just ignored them and let's the money roll in. Sad.
@@NoviceWildCamper Yea, but now that a subscriber sent in a $750 tent, it's the best backpacking tent ever used. I find that funny, because it weighs 6 pound and some odd ounces. He talked trashed about a backpacking tent weighing 5 pounds two weeks prior. The problem I have with that, is the tent he talked trash about actually only weighs 4 pounds 5 ounces and is a tent I've been using 14 years that's been tested in the wilderness for that many years. I only use it now on 2 night trips because I now have the Big Agnes that I got on sale,
I know. Its sad isn't it.
thanks for the, I can now checkout mine 😉..but someone says that its good for the ladies?
I've seen many women using it as well as men so should be good. 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper thanks again
Should I buy this for EBC trek?
To be honest im not sure what it involves. Its a great pack but I'm no expert on EBC.
I'm interested of buying one but not sure dyneema or nylon version. Which one would you recommend?
I'd go nylon. The dyneema version is heavier for some reason and more expensive 👍
What about durability? Any experience?
I've used mine for a year camping generally once a week or two max and I don't treat it with care. So far absolutely no signs of wear or damage.
Thanks
Is there any advantage in going for the dyneema version vs the regular nylon? Naturehike lists the dyneema version (1.31 kg) as heavier than the regular nylon (1.16 kg). Thanks.
That one wasn't available when I got mine and personally i wouldn't have got it due to the extra weight. Dyneema should be lighter if anything so it is odd that it is heavier. In theory it dhojld at least be more hard wearing but I have had zero issues with wear on this pack. 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper My thoughts exactly. I'm thinking of opting for the nylon version myself. I think they "upgraded" the series; although I don't exactly know what "upgraded" actually refers to. Thanks!
@@NoviceWildCamper Just back from my first test of this pack. What a great value. It works well for my torso length and height (6'0""). It does have quirks. I can see how the front left "bottle holder" can interfere with women and is a design flaw for that demographic unfortunately. It works well to hold my can of bear spray. It does have quirks. But I love it overall. Very light and comfortable when adjusted correctly.
Yeah I've has zero issues with it so far. Admittedly been using the qidian Pro recently however that is already showing wear and tear yet the naturehike looks like new 👍
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Do you think The lone wolf was the lone thumbs down ?? 👎😂😂 … Strength and honor (w no U) my friend 😄😄
No. I know who they are. They do it on every vid 😂 I find it hilarious.
And I doubt he'd ever watch my little channel 😂
I think everybody should just buy the granite gear crown 2 if they got the money and want a decent lightweight pack. It's definitely overlooked. They sell them on the Ultralight outdoor gear store.cost just over £200. It weighs 1142 grams but if you remove the hood and take out the frame. I got it down to 892 grams. It's my favourite pack. Maybe I should do a review on it. Everything is perfect about it. They are made in the USA but not many shops sells them here. I watched lukes video this evening. Man he hates that pack lol. It looks good though.
Yeah but it's £200! Thats mad money for something the same weight and does the same job as mine at £53 🤷🏼♂️ what makes it any better? For a budget pack this is definitely one of the best 👍
When something as personal as a pack fitting, it's a bit unwise to say everyone should buy one. It's available as 3 sizes but not being adjustable was an issue for me as one was too small, the other too large leaving it unpleasant to wear.
Is that the granite gear Jeff? Mot used one but it's outside my budget. Dragon is a millionaire so its fine for him 🤣
Yes, I tried the Granite gear, wasn't right for me. A Montane fitted great. Your review is great, describes features and that's all you can do. I never recommend bags or foot wear - too personal.
For instance I love Salewa shoes as I have very narrow feet and it's one of a limited number of brands that fit (and sadly expensive!). Wife has wide short feet and she hates the Salewa shoes and says Regatta are more comfortable.
Horses for courses 🙏👍
You expect me to believe you over the LONE WOLF. his review really upset you didn't it. Fair play for correcting it ha. Unless your an alien of course.seems a good pack, I was surprised also of the negative review. Cause I've always been interested in that pack myself but never brought myself to buy it. I doubt I will now though cause I'm trying to get the best gear out on the market.UGQ quilt next ohh yeeaahhh. Be great if he actually watches your video and responds. That would definitely be interesting. Great video Mr novice ohh yeeaahhh
Uuuggghh I never said Lone Wolf. I said Luke from the outdoor gear review 🤦♂️
Did you even watch the vid 😂
@@NoviceWildCamper I fell asleep but still decided to comment 😂😂😂
He is the Lone wolf lol
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What sorcery is this that enables you to hold a bottle with just one hand?! Is this The Force? Young Master Luke is not yet of the Jedi. Learn from bad comments will he. See Grand Master Daniels and learn yoga must he :-)
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May I know you height, please?
You're obviously not a regular, I mention it in most my vids 🤣 I'm 6'4 👍