1957 wurde ein U-Boot dieser Klasse in Kiel gehoben (U 2540) und 1960 in der Bundesmarine in Dienst gestellt. Bis 1980 wurde es als Versuchs Boot für den Boots Typ 206 genutzt. Nach einer Kollision mit einen Zerstörer wurde es außer Dienst gestellt und ist jetzt in einen Museum zu besichtigen.
The Type 21 electric boat was the FIRST true SUBMARINE and was the inspiration/pattern/template/prototype for ALL post WWII submarines! Including the US Navy USS Nautilus, the first atomic powered sub.
Type XXI had got very interesting solutions to previous troublesome problems that afflicted previous missions: effective snorkel to cruise while submerged, a capable bidimensional sonar-even we don't know how far it could see a ship- cable-guided torpedoes, long rane enough to patrol North Atlantic
Submarines before the Type XXI were considered surface ships that could dive temporarily for protection. Real submarines, like we have today, are designed to stay submerged on their entire patrol - the Type XXI was the first that could do this and maintain some practicality.
@@alexm566 the Rubber stoppen the Signal returning to the Ship making the submarine invisible to Sonar . It had proven effektive but Was very difficult to Apple die to the submarines hull and Ressource shortages
@Speer2814 Hitler lucked out a few times but a few of his BIG screw ups are: 1)Failure to build a fleet of long range heavy bombers. 2)Failure to complete the 4 carriers his Navy wanted 3)Choosing to build a expensive super weapons instead of more tanks, fighter aircraft and fast attack boats 4)Building a few Tiger I & II tanks instead of a lot of Panther tanks and Jagdpanther assault guns. 5) Not arming the German soldier with the Sturmgewehr 44 assault rifle. And that's just a few!
XXI U-Boat were highly advanced for their time and the first true submarines (another yay for German engineering). Rumor has it that the 1959 unidentified subs of Golfo Nuevo were XXI's. Despite being pursued and relentlessly bombarded by Argentinian forces armed with U.S weapons, they were unable to damage or sink them. They were also very hard to pinpoint on radar and sonar despite periodically surfacing and being seen. To this day no one knows who they belonged to..
Thank you for this unique clip. I can understand a lot of the 'hoch Deutsch' spoken by the narrator, which gives a lot of the history. The personal interviews are just so valuable and again unique, I'm glad their memories are preserved for the future. Their dialects are harder to understand, especially Karl-Georg Hopfengartner at the 6:18 mark - I assume he has a strong dialect, I can't quite follow along, but I hope it is available in English some day. Cheers.
He says where there was space we put them. I mean, where we slept they were inside. There was no room, you had to look where you could find a corner. Some slept in the back of the toilet, it didn't matter. But it was all right. Even as a German it was quite hard to understand 😂
Siemens wollte in den frühen 50ern ein TYP 21 mit Atomreaktor ausrüsten, dieses wurde von den Amis strengstens untersagt und den fertiggestellten Reaktor baute man dann testweise in den Frachter Otto Hahn ein....die U Boottechnik des Typ21 mit dem Otto Hahn Reaktor bauten dann die Amis leicht vergrößert als "Nautilus".
To sum the documentary up for our non-german friends: A true wonder weapon that could have turned the tides in the Atlantic war effort if deployed earlier in sufficient numbers. They planned to and would have blocked off any ship leaving the US towards Europe. Most wonder weapons were shitty early stage experiments but this new u-boat was the real deal and the very first true submarine in a modern sense. It wasn't a submersible, it could operate entirely submerged for 6 weeks, didn't need any supplies for 3/4 year and thanks to the electrically powered engine, it was as much "invisible" as it could get in the 40s. And on top of that: It could run at full speed while submerged because it utilised a snorkel, a concept the germans "borrowed" from the Dutch after they captured a Dutch submarine in dock. The Typ 21 would have outrun any Allied convoy and it would have used homing torpedoes. Then then video goes on how the already existing new submarines got used to help with transporting civilians fleeing from the Russians from Danzig to "safe" German ports such as Kiel. An illegal move by the captains as their secret weapons weren't allowed to be seen by the public but they found support in their crews thus concentrated on helping those women and children on the run. After the war, literally everyone copied this milestone of war technology.
Running at full speed underwater with the snorkel raised would cause the snorkel to snap in half. 6kts was the highest "safe" speed when snorkeling for the Type VII and IX. Even modern subs can't go much faster than that with the snorkel up, and the same issue applies to periscopes; long before they snap off, they start developing vibrations due to eddy currents around the tube. Coincidentally, 6kts is the top speed of the XXI when running on its "creep" motors, and the procedure for recharging the batteries on the XXI would've been to use the creep motors for propulsion while both of the diesels and main motors were disconnected and running in "generator mode".
It can still be seen in almost every commercial bolt action hunting rifle made in America today: the Ruger, Remington, and Winchester are all copies of the Gew 98 bolt design. Especially the Ruger which even copied the bolt removal latch. (Actually this is pre-WWI German technology but it was on my mind).
@wjlasloThe2nd That's right. The Type XXI was the basis of the final classes of U.S. Diesel Subs, as well as the "Guppy" Conversion Program for many of the WWII Subs.
Früher Heute hat Deutschland alle Intelligenz verkauft siehe China Und da es keine deutschen mehr gibt wird die abwärts Spirale anhalten USA ist nicht besser China wird weltpolizei
Ich dachte die Wilhelm Bauer die ja so aufwändig geborgen und für die Bundesmarine restauriert wurde sei der einzige "Überlebende"?! Die meisten Crews hatten Anweisung ihr U-Boot zu versenken/zerstören, es war ja auch revolutionär bzw. viele Militärexperten sagen zu Recht es war das "erste ECHTE U-Boot der Geschichte, die 30 Jahre älteren Weltkrieg 1-Modelle aus dem Jahr 1914/1915 waren dagegen wirklich Bleisärge, wobei auch die WW2-Fahrer mit wohl 75% Verlustquote mit am gefährlichsten lebten, auch schon vor 1945, generell war die Marine die am wenigsten mit Kraftstoff versorgte Teilstreitkraft, auch beim Material war dies so... ergo war die Marine wie Räder sagte "ein Beispiel für deutschen heldenhaften Todesmut aber keine Bedrohung für Britische Marine, insbesondere Übersee."(Sinngemäß...) was für ein Satz, natürlich unter Todesstrafen-Androhung geheime Schreiben........Dennoch ließ Hitler alles was er hatte und was ging in Schleichfahrt zumindest verlegen und oft als stationäre Seeblockaden (sparte Kraftstoff) parken an der typischen Nordmeer-Konvoi Route der Allierten nach Murmansk....
Früher hatte ich ein Subspiel und war immer Deutschland. Mein Lieblings-Sub war der Typ 21 wegen der Geschwindigkeit, die Unterwasser jedes Schiff fangen konnte, dem ich nachging. Nach Kriegsende ging ich einfach nach Südamerika und ging in den Ruhestand. ;)
I wish that either my Kläne or Linneman grandparents had taught German to their offspring. My father was with Patton's 3rd Army during WW2 but I know that some Kläne cousins were in the Wehrmacht. What a strange world. About the only thing for which war is good is that it does spur technical development.
Well put. The Brits were fortunate that they had, in Roosevelt, an American president who made no pretense of neutrality . . . unlike Wilson twenty-five years earlier. An interesting note re: Churchill. Just before he assumed the keys to 10 Downing St. in 1940 he was knocking about the Naval Ministry to find out if the Americans had a ship, either military or civilian, that, if sunk, would bring the Yanks in forthwith. Familiar, yes? Cheers!
@NearAbbeyRoad this is hilarious.. the ME262 was way ahead of the meteor..the german swept wing design was copied by the English, Americans and Soviets. remember the ME 163 Komet after the war its wings were used on a British design and I mean removed from a Komet and bolted onto a Swallow.
The perfect doco, U- Boots and in German, although I don't understand it all ,its better than watching this in English. Who watches Das Boot dubbed in English? Madness.
Das ist unglaublich spannend und interessant, dass diese U-Boote heute immer noch in diesem zugeschütteten Bunker liegen. Sowas gehört doch in ein Museum. Man sollte sie bergen.
My uncle was sent in the last days of the war in a u boat to rescue German civilians. 50 yrs later he was still crying of the children he had to leave behind. The madness of war😢
You can even add fighter jets to the list. The Germans had early stage jet engine powered fighterjets. They had a wooden coating to absorb the radar waves.
Sie sind ja auch wegweisend gewesen für die spätere Entwicklung von U-Booten. Die Möglichkeit unter Wasser schneller als über Wasser zu fahren war noch bei den Booten vom Typ VII völlig undenkbar. Diese waren die meistgebauten U-Boote der Seekriegsgeschichte, allerdings auch die erfolgreichsten. Die Erfolge gelangen allerdings vor allem Anfangs oder später als die USA speziell Schiffe bauten welche gemäß US-Doktrin schneller gebaut als versenkt werden können. Daher war bereits 1 erfolgreiche Atlantikpassage der Liberty-Klasse ein akzeptables Resultat. Wie in der Luftfahrt oder Raketentechnologie war die deutsche Technologie auch hier wegweisend und viele Ähnlichkeiten in den ersten US-Nachkriegsentwürfen erinnern gerade in diesen Bereichen an so manchen deutschen Entwurf oder in Dienst gestellte Typen. U-2511 welches als einziges eine Feindfahrt mit diesem Boot durchführte, für wenige Tage und entsprechend ohne Resultat. Da kann man mal Wikipedia zitieren: Die erste Feindfahrt sollte in den Bereich des Panamakanals führen. Das Boot hatte schon mehrfach Feindberührung mit alliierten Jagdgruppen, doch wurde es nur von einer entdeckt. Dieser entzog sich das U-Boot unter Wasser durch „Große Fahrt“ mit Kurs gegen Wind und Wellen. Kommandant Korvettenkapitän Adalbert Schnee in einem späteren Interview: „Wir hörten sie [die U-Boot-Jäger] noch lange peilen. Offensichtlich konnten sie sich den Kontaktverlust nicht erklären.“ Es gehörte zu den ersten U-Booten des Typs XXI, die mit wesentlich größeren Batterien und stärkeren E-Maschinen ausgerüstet waren. Dadurch war es ein echtes Unterwasserfahrzeug. Die günstige hydrodynamische Form erlaubte ihm eine Unterwassergeschwindigkeit von 16,5 kn Knoten und eine nahezu geräuschlose Marschfahrt unter Wasser bei 5,5 Knoten. So besaß es einen Aktionsradius, der vom Heimathafen Bergen bis zu den Gewässern von Kapstadt reichte. Es war mit diesem U-Boot auch möglich, ohne Sichtkontakt Torpedoangriffe aus größerer Tiefe durchzuführen. ABER Skeptiker sagen, dass angesichts der Situation die benötigte Menge Stahl für die 170 U-Boote wesentlich effizienter in 5.100 Panzern benutzt worden wäre. Jedoch ist das eine Milchmädchenrechnung da Stahl ja nicht das einzige ist was man braucht um einen Panzer zu bauen. Der Panther hätte wohl um die 55% ausmachen sollen, 5% noch in der Umstellungsphase befindliche Kapazitäten hätten noch einige Panzer IV fertig stellen können. Hier wären 20% Tiger und 20% für Jagdpanzer und Panzerjäger...möglichst nur sehr wenige Jagdtiger, als schwerster jemals in Serie gebauter Panzer deutet dieser Rekord bereits auf Probleme hin. Jedoch auch wenn das gegangen wäre, der Treibstoffverbrauch von 5.100 Panzern, egal welcher Art, sind unglaublich hoch für damalige Zeiten und bereits die vorhandenen Panzer konnten nicht mal ansatzweise ausreichend versorgt werden. Man hätte schon vor Kriegsbeginn unbedingt eine große strategische Reserve anlegen müssen, stattdessen bestärkten die großen erbeuteten Mengen an Kraftstoff und Öl während des Westfeldzuges die Führung nur darin, dass dies nicht nötig ist. Dazu kamen die wichtigen Lieferungen Stalins welche immer pünktlich und in vereinbarter Menge kamen, während Rumänien weniger als erwartet lieferte, da Rumänien seine Ölreserven schonen wollte wie spätere Dokumente belegen. Während den Allierten noch gelegentlich Fahrzeuge in die Hände fielen wurden an der Ostfront von einigen Typen ab zwischen Januar und April 1945 mehr durch die eigene Besatzung gesprengt als durch Feindeinwirkung zerstört... die Fahrzeuge welche von der Oder irgendwie zu den Seelower Höhen gelangten und dort an der verlustreichen Schlacht teilnahmen änderten diese Statistik erst wieder für den Zeitraum von Mitte April bis Anfang Mai 1945.
It's spoken in German, by the narrator, at the 5:47 mark and in the following crew interviews to the 7:10 mark. If I understand the language correctly, the Captain of U-3505 decided to take civilian evacuees to safety from the approaching Russians (at Danzig?). This was in violation of official Kriegsmarine policy. It appears a whole number of KM vessels did the same. The Crew was fully behind the Capt's decision and since the Uboat wasn't carrying any torpedoes yet, there was room for quite a number of evacuees, especially children. I think they disembarked in Bremenhafen, and although it was obvious what the Capt and crew had done, there were no consequences.
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Right on !… Bravo !… From a non-patriotic french man. Which means you don't have to be patriotic to learn what historians have learned and wrote since 60 years !…
Vey well put....I cannot agree more. It is a pity people generalise by calling Germans (even today) Nazis... as for the Heer (Army) , Kriegsmarine (Navy/Fleet) and Luftwaffe (Airforce), most that served did so due to conscription (compulsory military service), so judging them would be foolish,,,Speer was indeed an architect, but he did have plenty of political weight...a politician maybe not, but perhaps he could have been a good leader...(better than Hitler, and definately more moral) ..Regards
Type XXi was an impressive submarine because it actually was a modern one- the firs real submarine- that would have been compared by USA or Russia only ten years later, but IMHO its advanced technology and avveniristic technical solutions made it too difficult to build for Germant during '40-ies. yet in 1955 USSR preferred to build class whiskey instead of indigenous copy of type XXi- class Zulu- because of the latter was considered too "complicated"
Of course, it wasn't just Hitler's bad strategy. Donitz dictated that all submarines radio back to Berlin on a regular basis. And we just triangulated on those signals to locate them. With improved air cover and destroyer escorts, the submariners became easy prey. The over-reliance on the Enigma machine was also an achilles' heel - once the allied decoded it.
In the yrs the manhattan project was processing uranium it only had 50% of what was needed, then 3 months before detonation they had the rest - where did it come from ? and why would you transport relatively harmless uranium ore in solid gold lined cases.
To sum it up: A true wonder weapon that could have turned the tides in the Atlantic war effort if deployed earlier in sufficient numbers. They planned to and would have blocked off any ship leaving the US towards Europe. Most wonder weapons were shitty early stage experiments but this new u-boat was the real deal and the very first true submarine in a modern sense. It wasn't a submersible, it could operate entirely submerged for 6 weeks, didn't need any supplies for 3/4 year and thanks to the electrically powered engine, it was as much "invisible" as it could get in the 40s. And on top of that: It could run at full speed while submerged because it utilised a snorkel, a concept the germans "borrowed" from the Dutch after they captured a Dutch submarine in dock. The Typ 21 would have outrun any Allied convoy and it would have used homing torpedoes. Then video goes on how the already existing new submarines got used to help with transporting civilians fleeing from the Russians from Danzig to "safe" German ports such as Kiel. An illegal move by the captains as their secret weapons weren't allowed to be seen by the public but they found support in their crews thus concentrated on helping those women and children on the run.
i dont know from wich war you're talking about.. but the Horse was not the most common infantery transport in the Wehrmacht.. but yes, we still have some donkeys today for some special forces like the Gebirgsjäger show me any other technology that can replace a donkey in the alps....
that little clip of the aircraft's cannons opening fire (at 1:00) must be one of the most RAF-related ww2 clips ever used. (I've seen it in SO MANY documentaries)
I am not an expert, but according to most military hystorians the greatest trouble of Type VII/IX was they were "too easy to detect" not only by radar when surfaced, but also by sonar when submerged. TYpe XXI has got a very small "sonar cross section", can stay under water except for snorkel tube for weeks or months. IMHO Nimitz was someway "forced" to deploy Type XXI, against which US Navy had got little defenses, but it was too far from its effective capabilities...
Germany's hand was forced to declare war as the US had already entered into the war by assisting the UK in providing raw materials/hardware and convoy escorts. It was Churchills plan all along to drag the US in. The Soviet front (the meat grinder) consumed some 75% of the German war effort. Regards
Lol, 6:58 Fritz Deutschmann, das ja mal der deutscheste Name ever :) Tolles Video! Gut zu wissen, dass deutsche Kriegstechnologie auch Leben gerettet hat.
Hello - I wonder if someone involved in this thread would be able to advise WHERE the footage of the U-Boat came from please? We are making a documentary for UK broadcast on German WWII engineering and would love to include some of this footage. If anyone can help, please let me know. Thank you.
Thanks for the information. No, Im spanish. This summer im going to deutschland. Im learning german as fast as I can and Im engineer, hope to find some job there. Cheers!
I'm talking about WW2. The Heer was reliant on the horse - it's well documented. quote from 1946 report " the numerical strength of German Army horses maintained during the entire war period averaged around 1,100,000."
@Y2MAC und wie bitteschön? stückweise? dann läuft man gefahr sie endgültig zu versenken man sollte den bunker aufschütten und die boote begehbar machen... ein museum da unten wäre mal derbe geil... und ich würde da sogar regelmäßig hingehen
@clintonearlwalker The good submarines came much to late. The most common were VIIB , VIIC and IXB submarines. And these get improved also much to late.
I'd rather to refer to Germans better than Nazis. The first are a people (smart and industrious), and the second ones were a party only (not necessarily the best). As to Speer, he was an architect, not a political or military leader, no matter how good he was, even very close to Hitler. I'm not specially fond of Hitler or "nazis", and I think . as we say in my country, call the bread "bread" and the wine "wine". Not any other thing. Hope you understand my "naive" point. AOP
The first real U-Boot of the world. This type could have changed the submarine war, but was too late. The allies, who were able to use the advanced German technology for their own projects, then benefited from this.
The U.S. never copied the type XXI, they did however modify Gato/Balao/Tench class fleet boats in the Guppy program. GUPPY-Greater Underwater Propulsion Program. which involved removing all unnessasary proturbences such as deck guns, AA guns, eta. a schnorkle, & higher capacity batteries. but it was only a stopgap measure till the Nuclear submarines were launched.
I’ve read a little about the XXI ‘boots’... I’d like to have listened to this but I don’t remember enough of my College German Classes... Perhaps you could add English ‘Subtitles’?
@NearAbbeyRoad Before the US joined in the UK had weeks left due to the German U boats blockading food and raw materials to the UK. The battle of britain was fought over the UK as a defensive action. The US intervention cost the UK it went from superpower status before the war to average country after due to debts to the US.
@clintonearlwalker Well the germans were perfectionists. Just look at the Tiger or Panther tank. No Allied tank was able to destroy it, while the Tiger could destroy them at far longer range. But it was hard to construct and never able to be build in mass production like the T-34 or M4 Sherman. Another thing the Bismarck or the Tirpitz. These both ships with air support. I don't wanna know what these Ships could have done.
Not only air support, with cruisers and destroyers and U boots as scorts, like a battle group.. my god, I think Hitler was too ignorant to manage their powerful warships against the British who had a bigger navy but not better ships as the germans, except for the aircraft carriers.
elektroboot, köningstiger, Messerschmitt 262... The world would have been different today if these weapons were available in 1940. and i don't think it would be a better world...
@NearAbbeyRoad What planet are you from..AA proximity fuses were American the UK did not have a A bomb until 1952... The only thing the brits had that changed the war was the code breaking ability station X everything else was 2nd rate apart from spitfire
you think, are you forgetting that the german U-boat crews were addicted to their radios? they used them incessently. & allied Hunter/Kiler groups using radio direction finding equipment tracked them down & sank them. so no matter what boats they used, they always gave themselves away.
the comparison is not logical. the technology for the raptor was not available at 1943, but the technology for the type XXI was completely available in that year...be logical
The Germans had fantastic engineering, but in many cases didn't settle on one design and to just mass produce (IE Tanks). Also there were competing new technologies competing for scarce resources all running concurrently like the type XXI, ME-262, V2, HE111, STG44, etc. The US instead used mass numbers of technologically inferior tanks, aircraft, and small arms by 1945, but they put the R&D expenditure into the Manhattan project and that was the end run needed to win the war.
@NearAbbeyRoad Actually it was the Allies..if the USA had not joined in the war the UK would be speaking German today. Without US support food /arms (lend lease) the UK had months left. Germany took on too much too soon by invading the Soviet Union.
Goddard did some work but he did not build anything like a V2, gyro guidance was used in ships for yrs he lifted the idea from that. Had Goddard cracked it the US would have ballistic missiles before WWII.
Das schönste U-Boot der Welt (bis heute)
Jedes Land konnte nur von so einer Technik träumen.
Truly an impressive U-boat was the Type XXI. It would have wreaked havoc with our convoy system had it gone into action early in the war.
1957 wurde ein U-Boot dieser Klasse in Kiel gehoben (U 2540) und 1960 in der Bundesmarine in Dienst gestellt.
Bis 1980 wurde es als Versuchs Boot für den Boots Typ 206 genutzt.
Nach einer Kollision mit einen Zerstörer wurde es außer Dienst gestellt und ist jetzt in einen Museum zu besichtigen.
The Type 21 electric boat was the FIRST true SUBMARINE and was the inspiration/pattern/template/prototype for ALL post WWII submarines! Including the US Navy USS Nautilus, the first atomic powered sub.
Type XXI had got very interesting solutions to previous troublesome problems that afflicted previous missions: effective snorkel to cruise while submerged, a capable bidimensional sonar-even we don't know how far it could see a ship- cable-guided torpedoes, long rane enough to patrol North Atlantic
Submarines before the Type XXI were considered surface ships that could dive temporarily for protection. Real submarines, like we have today, are designed to stay submerged on their entire patrol - the Type XXI was the first that could do this and maintain some practicality.
Damn germans have most advanced technology in ww2
This sub, coated with rubber like U-460, would have been invincible in the hands of the original u-boat captains...
what advantage the rubber gave? 🤔
@@alexm566 I think that it could not be detected
@@alexm566 the Rubber stoppen the Signal returning to the Ship making the submarine invisible to Sonar . It had proven effektive but Was very difficult to Apple die to the submarines hull and Ressource shortages
The problem was, that rubber was in short supply, requiring natural rubber to be imported from the tropics.
@Speer2814
Hitler lucked out a few times but a few of his BIG screw ups are:
1)Failure to build a fleet of long range heavy bombers.
2)Failure to complete the 4 carriers his Navy wanted
3)Choosing to build a expensive super weapons instead of more tanks, fighter aircraft and fast attack boats
4)Building a few Tiger I & II tanks instead of a lot of Panther tanks and Jagdpanther assault guns.
5) Not arming the German soldier with the Sturmgewehr 44 assault rifle.
And that's just a few!
Auch die Bundesmarine hatte solche Boote im bestand nach der Wiederbewaffnung.
XXI U-Boat were highly advanced for their time and the first true submarines (another yay for German engineering).
Rumor has it that the 1959 unidentified subs of Golfo Nuevo were XXI's.
Despite being pursued and relentlessly bombarded by Argentinian forces armed with U.S weapons, they were unable to damage or sink them.
They were also very hard to pinpoint on radar and sonar despite periodically surfacing and being seen.
To this day no one knows who they belonged to..
Thank you for this unique clip. I can understand a lot of the 'hoch Deutsch' spoken by the narrator, which gives a lot of the history. The personal interviews are just so valuable and again unique, I'm glad their memories are preserved for the future. Their dialects are harder to understand, especially Karl-Georg Hopfengartner at the 6:18 mark - I assume he has a strong dialect, I can't quite follow along, but I hope it is available in English some day. Cheers.
He says where there was space we put them. I mean, where we slept they were inside. There was no room, you had to look where you could find a corner. Some slept in the back of the toilet, it didn't matter. But it was all right.
Even as a German it was quite hard to understand 😂
@@PeriQue1337 Viel danke !
Siemens wollte in den frühen 50ern ein TYP 21 mit Atomreaktor ausrüsten, dieses wurde von den Amis strengstens untersagt und den fertiggestellten Reaktor baute man dann testweise in den Frachter Otto Hahn ein....die U Boottechnik des Typ21 mit dem Otto Hahn Reaktor bauten dann die Amis leicht vergrößert als "Nautilus".
Der Kapitän der Otto Hahn wär übrigens der Käapitän von U 96. Nachzulesen im Werk "Der Abschied" von Lothar Günther Buchheim
Die moderne Technik wurde von den Alliierten geklaut. Genau wie alle Patente
@@hegerdietmar8101 ich würde eher "erbeutet" sagen.
@@ralfweissenborn734 ja klaubeutet triffts eher
To sum the documentary up for our non-german friends:
A true wonder weapon that could have turned the tides in the Atlantic war effort if deployed earlier in sufficient numbers. They planned to and would have blocked off any ship leaving the US towards Europe. Most wonder weapons were shitty early stage experiments but this new u-boat was the real deal and the very first true submarine in a modern sense. It wasn't a submersible, it could operate entirely submerged for 6 weeks, didn't need any supplies for 3/4 year and thanks to the electrically powered engine, it was as much "invisible" as it could get in the 40s. And on top of that: It could run at full speed while submerged because it utilised a snorkel, a concept the germans "borrowed" from the Dutch after they captured a Dutch submarine in dock.
The Typ 21 would have outrun any Allied convoy and it would have used homing torpedoes.
Then then video goes on how the already existing new submarines got used to help with transporting civilians fleeing from the Russians from Danzig to "safe" German ports such as Kiel. An illegal move by the captains as their secret weapons weren't allowed to be seen by the public but they found support in their crews thus concentrated on helping those women and children on the run.
After the war, literally everyone copied this milestone of war technology.
Running at full speed underwater with the snorkel raised would cause the snorkel to snap in half.
6kts was the highest "safe" speed when snorkeling for the Type VII and IX.
Even modern subs can't go much faster than that with the snorkel up, and the same issue applies to periscopes; long before they snap off, they start developing vibrations due to eddy currents around the tube.
Coincidentally, 6kts is the top speed of the XXI when running on its "creep" motors, and the procedure for recharging the batteries on the XXI would've been to use the creep motors for propulsion while both of the diesels and main motors were disconnected and running in "generator mode".
It can still be seen in almost every commercial bolt action hunting rifle made in America today: the Ruger, Remington, and Winchester are all copies of the Gew 98 bolt design. Especially the Ruger which even copied the bolt removal latch. (Actually this is pre-WWI German technology but it was on my mind).
@wjlasloThe2nd That's right. The Type XXI was the basis of the final classes of U.S. Diesel Subs, as well as the "Guppy" Conversion Program for many of the WWII Subs.
Die neuen Uboote die es heutzutage gibt basieren allesamt auf dem Modell.
Früher
Heute hat Deutschland alle Intelligenz verkauft siehe China
Und da es keine deutschen mehr gibt wird die abwärts Spirale anhalten
USA ist nicht besser China wird weltpolizei
Nice post...Never knew they were used for evacuations
Just commenting here to remind you that this 11 year old comment exists
@@jumpman6908 why?
Man sollte die Boote da rausholen und in einem Museum ausstellen
Ich dachte die Wilhelm Bauer die ja so aufwändig geborgen und für die Bundesmarine restauriert wurde sei der einzige "Überlebende"?! Die meisten Crews hatten Anweisung ihr U-Boot zu versenken/zerstören, es war ja auch revolutionär bzw. viele Militärexperten sagen zu Recht es war das "erste ECHTE U-Boot der Geschichte, die 30 Jahre älteren Weltkrieg 1-Modelle aus dem Jahr 1914/1915 waren dagegen wirklich Bleisärge, wobei auch die WW2-Fahrer mit wohl 75% Verlustquote mit am gefährlichsten lebten, auch schon vor 1945, generell war die Marine die am wenigsten mit Kraftstoff versorgte Teilstreitkraft, auch beim Material war dies so...
ergo war die Marine wie Räder sagte "ein Beispiel für deutschen heldenhaften Todesmut aber keine Bedrohung für Britische Marine, insbesondere Übersee."(Sinngemäß...) was für ein Satz, natürlich unter Todesstrafen-Androhung geheime Schreiben........Dennoch ließ Hitler alles was er hatte und was ging in Schleichfahrt zumindest verlegen und oft als stationäre Seeblockaden (sparte Kraftstoff) parken an der typischen Nordmeer-Konvoi Route der Allierten nach Murmansk....
Da ist heute das Containerterminal vom Hamburger Hafen an der Stelle...
@@KilonBerlin wie willste die im eigenen ubootbunker im heimathafen sprengen?
Die Amis und die Britten hatten allw Deutsche technologien und patenten gestollen. Es gibte nichts fur den Deutschen nach dem Krieg..
@@brazhell ich würd erstmal die Sprache lernen bevor ich rumheule was "gestollen" wurde
Появись данный тип лодок в достаточном количестве на три- четыре года раньше... Многое могло бы пойти ... несколько иначе.
Früher hatte ich ein Subspiel und war immer Deutschland. Mein Lieblings-Sub war der Typ 21 wegen der Geschwindigkeit, die Unterwasser jedes Schiff fangen konnte, dem ich nachging. Nach Kriegsende ging ich einfach nach Südamerika und ging in den Ruhestand. ;)
The type 21 was a technical wonder and glad it didn't come until late in war !!!
MAXIMUM RESPECT
I wish that either my Kläne or Linneman grandparents had taught German to their offspring.
My father was with Patton's 3rd Army during WW2 but I know that some Kläne cousins were in the Wehrmacht. What a strange world.
About the only thing for which war is good is that it does spur technical development.
Well put. The Brits were fortunate that they had, in Roosevelt, an American president who made no pretense of neutrality . . . unlike Wilson twenty-five years earlier. An interesting note re: Churchill. Just before he assumed the keys to 10 Downing St. in 1940 he was knocking about the Naval Ministry to find out if the Americans had a ship, either military or civilian, that, if sunk, would bring the Yanks in forthwith. Familiar, yes? Cheers!
@NearAbbeyRoad this is hilarious.. the ME262 was way ahead of the meteor..the german swept wing design was copied by the English, Americans and Soviets. remember the ME 163 Komet after the war its wings were used on a British design and I mean removed from a Komet and bolted onto a Swallow.
The perfect doco, U- Boots and in German, although I don't understand it all ,its better than watching this in English. Who watches Das Boot dubbed in English? Madness.
Very rare and interesting. Super!
Das ist unglaublich spannend und interessant, dass diese U-Boote heute immer noch in diesem zugeschütteten Bunker liegen. Sowas gehört doch in ein Museum. Man sollte sie bergen.
My uncle was sent in the last days of the war in a u boat to rescue German civilians. 50 yrs later he was still crying of the children he had to leave behind. The madness of war😢
"...und dann haben die da wie die Heringe auf der Stange gesessen." ;)
Ein echter Seebär^^
You can even add fighter jets to the list. The Germans had early stage jet engine powered fighterjets. They had a wooden coating to absorb the radar waves.
wichtig ,,und kopirt"
Ich finde das der typ 21 für die heutige zeit sehr modern aussieht
Sie sind ja auch wegweisend gewesen für die spätere Entwicklung von U-Booten. Die Möglichkeit unter Wasser schneller als über Wasser zu fahren war noch bei den Booten vom Typ VII völlig undenkbar. Diese waren die meistgebauten U-Boote der Seekriegsgeschichte, allerdings auch die erfolgreichsten. Die Erfolge gelangen allerdings vor allem Anfangs oder später als die USA speziell Schiffe bauten welche gemäß US-Doktrin schneller gebaut als versenkt werden können. Daher war bereits 1 erfolgreiche Atlantikpassage der Liberty-Klasse ein akzeptables Resultat.
Wie in der Luftfahrt oder Raketentechnologie war die deutsche Technologie auch hier wegweisend und viele Ähnlichkeiten in den ersten US-Nachkriegsentwürfen erinnern gerade in diesen Bereichen an so manchen deutschen Entwurf oder in Dienst gestellte Typen.
U-2511 welches als einziges eine Feindfahrt mit diesem Boot durchführte, für wenige Tage und entsprechend ohne Resultat. Da kann man mal Wikipedia zitieren:
Die erste Feindfahrt sollte in den Bereich des Panamakanals führen. Das Boot hatte schon mehrfach Feindberührung mit alliierten Jagdgruppen, doch wurde es nur von einer entdeckt. Dieser entzog sich das U-Boot unter Wasser durch „Große Fahrt“ mit Kurs gegen Wind und Wellen. Kommandant Korvettenkapitän Adalbert Schnee in einem späteren Interview:
„Wir hörten sie [die U-Boot-Jäger] noch lange peilen. Offensichtlich konnten sie sich den Kontaktverlust nicht erklären.“
Es gehörte zu den ersten U-Booten des Typs XXI, die mit wesentlich größeren Batterien und stärkeren E-Maschinen ausgerüstet waren. Dadurch war es ein echtes Unterwasserfahrzeug. Die günstige hydrodynamische Form erlaubte ihm eine Unterwassergeschwindigkeit von 16,5 kn Knoten und eine nahezu geräuschlose Marschfahrt unter Wasser bei 5,5 Knoten. So besaß es einen Aktionsradius, der vom Heimathafen Bergen bis zu den Gewässern von Kapstadt reichte. Es war mit diesem U-Boot auch möglich, ohne Sichtkontakt Torpedoangriffe aus größerer Tiefe durchzuführen.
ABER Skeptiker sagen, dass angesichts der Situation die benötigte Menge Stahl für die 170 U-Boote wesentlich effizienter in 5.100 Panzern benutzt worden wäre. Jedoch ist das eine Milchmädchenrechnung da Stahl ja nicht das einzige ist was man braucht um einen Panzer zu bauen. Der Panther hätte wohl um die 55% ausmachen sollen, 5% noch in der Umstellungsphase befindliche Kapazitäten hätten noch einige Panzer IV fertig stellen können. Hier wären 20% Tiger und 20% für Jagdpanzer und Panzerjäger...möglichst nur sehr wenige Jagdtiger, als schwerster jemals in Serie gebauter Panzer deutet dieser Rekord bereits auf Probleme hin.
Jedoch auch wenn das gegangen wäre, der Treibstoffverbrauch von 5.100 Panzern, egal welcher Art, sind unglaublich hoch für damalige Zeiten und bereits die vorhandenen Panzer konnten nicht mal ansatzweise ausreichend versorgt werden. Man hätte schon vor Kriegsbeginn unbedingt eine große strategische Reserve anlegen müssen, stattdessen bestärkten die großen erbeuteten Mengen an Kraftstoff und Öl während des Westfeldzuges die Führung nur darin, dass dies nicht nötig ist. Dazu kamen die wichtigen Lieferungen Stalins welche immer pünktlich und in vereinbarter Menge kamen, während Rumänien weniger als erwartet lieferte, da Rumänien seine Ölreserven schonen wollte wie spätere Dokumente belegen.
Während den Allierten noch gelegentlich Fahrzeuge in die Hände fielen wurden an der Ostfront von einigen Typen ab zwischen Januar und April 1945 mehr durch die eigene Besatzung gesprengt als durch Feindeinwirkung zerstört... die Fahrzeuge welche von der Oder irgendwie zu den Seelower Höhen gelangten und dort an der verlustreichen Schlacht teilnahmen änderten diese Statistik erst wieder für den Zeitraum von Mitte April bis Anfang Mai 1945.
@zero two
Richtig aber die Hetze!
If I was learning German, I suspect this would be a good listening exercise. The narrator has excellent diction and beautiful enunciation.
@8sec: "no civilian people [to] go aboard a u-boat" - cannot find this quote. where and when! was it said? got a link?
It's spoken in German, by the narrator, at the 5:47 mark and in the following crew interviews to the 7:10 mark. If I understand the language correctly, the Captain of U-3505 decided to take civilian evacuees to safety from the approaching Russians (at Danzig?). This was in violation of official Kriegsmarine policy. It appears a whole number of KM vessels did the same. The Crew was fully behind the Capt's decision and since the Uboat wasn't carrying any torpedoes yet, there was room for quite a number of evacuees, especially children. I think they disembarked in Bremenhafen, and although it was obvious what the Capt and crew had done, there were no consequences.
Very interesting docu, thanks for posting.
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some sub-titles would've been nice
silvs1966
Someday we will have instant translators built into the TV. This craft is proof of technological ingenuity
@@intercommerce as handy as that would be, takes the magic and uniqueness of different languages away, don't know how I feel about such things.
Right on !… Bravo !…
From a non-patriotic french man.
Which means you don't have to be patriotic to learn what historians have learned and wrote since 60 years !…
Great work Sir.
Vey well put....I cannot agree more. It is a pity people generalise by calling Germans (even today) Nazis... as for the Heer (Army) , Kriegsmarine (Navy/Fleet) and Luftwaffe (Airforce), most that served did so due to conscription (compulsory military service), so judging them would be foolish,,,Speer was indeed an architect, but he did have plenty of political weight...a politician maybe not, but perhaps he could have been a good leader...(better than Hitler, and definately more moral) ..Regards
Type XXi was an impressive submarine because it actually was a modern one- the firs real submarine- that would have been compared by USA or Russia only ten years later, but IMHO its advanced technology and avveniristic technical solutions made it too difficult to build for Germant during '40-ies. yet in 1955 USSR preferred to build class whiskey instead of indigenous copy of type XXi- class Zulu- because of the latter was considered too "complicated"
Of course, it wasn't just Hitler's bad strategy. Donitz dictated that all submarines radio back to Berlin on a regular basis. And we just triangulated on those signals to locate them. With improved air cover and destroyer escorts, the submariners became easy prey. The over-reliance on the Enigma machine was also an achilles' heel - once the allied decoded it.
how do you turn on the subtitles?
In the yrs the manhattan project was processing uranium it only had 50% of what was needed, then 3 months before detonation they had the rest - where did it come from ? and why would you transport relatively harmless uranium ore in solid gold lined cases.
I wish someone had subtitled the video so I'd understand what the narrator was saying.
Learn to speak as I am
To sum it up: A true wonder weapon that could have turned the tides in the Atlantic war effort if deployed earlier in sufficient numbers. They planned to and would have blocked off any ship leaving the US towards Europe. Most wonder weapons were shitty early stage experiments but this new u-boat was the real deal and the very first true submarine in a modern sense. It wasn't a submersible, it could operate entirely submerged for 6 weeks, didn't need any supplies for 3/4 year and thanks to the electrically powered engine, it was as much "invisible" as it could get in the 40s. And on top of that: It could run at full speed while submerged because it utilised a snorkel, a concept the germans "borrowed" from the Dutch after they captured a Dutch submarine in dock.
The Typ 21 would have outrun any Allied convoy and it would have used homing torpedoes.
Then video goes on how the already existing new submarines got used to help with transporting civilians fleeing from the Russians from Danzig to "safe" German ports such as Kiel. An illegal move by the captains as their secret weapons weren't allowed to be seen by the public but they found support in their crews thus concentrated on helping those women and children on the run.
i dont know from wich war you're talking about.. but the Horse was not the most common infantery transport in the Wehrmacht.. but yes, we still have some donkeys today for some special forces like the Gebirgsjäger show me any other technology that can replace a donkey in the alps....
that little clip of the aircraft's cannons opening fire (at 1:00) must be one of the most RAF-related ww2 clips ever used. (I've seen it in SO MANY documentaries)
I am not an expert, but according to most military hystorians the greatest trouble of Type VII/IX was they were "too easy to detect" not only by radar when surfaced, but also by sonar when submerged. TYpe XXI has got a very small "sonar cross section", can stay under water except for snorkel tube for weeks or months. IMHO Nimitz was someway "forced" to deploy Type XXI, against which US Navy had got little defenses, but it was too far from its effective capabilities...
Germany's hand was forced to declare war as the US had already entered into the war by assisting the UK in providing raw materials/hardware and convoy escorts. It was Churchills plan all along to drag the US in. The Soviet front (the meat grinder) consumed some 75% of the German war effort. Regards
Heute gehört das Deutsche U-Boot 212A zu den besten der Welt.
Dieser Boots Typ baut auf den Typ 21 auf und wäre im Krieg sehr erfolgreich.
Is there a version of this in English please ?
Look- German WWII Submarine Type XXI
Lol, 6:58 Fritz Deutschmann, das ja mal der deutscheste Name ever :)
Tolles Video! Gut zu wissen, dass deutsche Kriegstechnologie auch Leben gerettet hat.
Hello - I wonder if someone involved in this thread would be able to advise WHERE the footage of the U-Boat came from please? We are making a documentary for UK broadcast on German WWII engineering and would love to include some of this footage. If anyone can help, please let me know. Thank you.
Great vid thanks for posting.
@derxman 750,000 horses were used in Barbarossa - only parts of the Wehrmacht were ever fully motorised.
du denkst das haette den "endsieg" gebracht? ..und du denkst, das wäre was gutes gewesen?
Thanks for the information. No, Im spanish. This summer im going to deutschland. Im learning german as fast as I can and Im engineer, hope to find some job there. Cheers!
I'm talking about WW2.
The Heer was reliant on the horse - it's well documented.
quote from 1946 report
" the numerical strength of German Army horses maintained during the entire war period averaged around 1,100,000."
I did not know this about Churchill, but is it surprising No, and yes it does sound very familiar....very familiar
@Y2MAC und wie bitteschön? stückweise? dann läuft man gefahr sie endgültig zu versenken
man sollte den bunker aufschütten und die boote begehbar machen... ein museum da unten wäre mal derbe geil... und ich würde da sogar regelmäßig hingehen
I wish I spoke German. Any subtitles available?
actually the allies used this sub untill 1969. and the first USA president ever to go in a Sub, was in the german xx1 class.:P
HMS Alliance on display in Gosport nr Portsmouth UK, is a near direct 'copy' of the XXI
Die in '39 und der Krieg wäre Mitte '40 gewonnen...
wie heisst denn die doku?
@MsSalessa ..spot on!!..Greetings from the states!
Sehr selten und interessant. Klasse!
Warum sind diese U-Boote heutzutage nicht in einem Museum?????
where is stealth submarine U 480 was never detected by sonar.
excellent
@MrDonetsk777 what is the villageman in tarzan pants saying? heil great tokelau-village?
@clintonearlwalker
The good submarines came much to late. The most common were VIIB , VIIC and IXB submarines. And these get improved also much to late.
wie die Heringe auf der Stange gesessen HAEEEEEEE wie sitzt ein Hering auf der Stange ???
Frauen und Kinder die Jungs haben alles richtig gemacht
Not a wonder weapon it was simply the next generation of u-boat.
Du hast vollkommen recht!
I'd rather to refer to Germans better than Nazis. The first are a people (smart and
industrious), and the second ones were a party only (not necessarily the best).
As to Speer, he was an architect, not a political or military leader, no matter how
good he was, even very close to Hitler. I'm not specially fond of Hitler or "nazis", and
I think . as we say in my country, call the bread "bread" and the wine "wine". Not
any other thing. Hope you understand my "naive" point. AOP
Fascinating stuff, is there an English translation version please ?
I love uboats!
How about watching the videos you comment on? At around 3:30 they clearly state that slave labor was used in uboat production.
The first real U-Boot of the world. This type could have changed the submarine war, but was too late. The allies, who were able to use the advanced German technology for their own projects, then benefited from this.
The U.S. never copied the type XXI, they did however modify Gato/Balao/Tench class fleet boats in the Guppy program.
GUPPY-Greater Underwater Propulsion Program. which involved removing all unnessasary proturbences such as deck guns, AA guns, eta. a schnorkle, & higher capacity batteries. but it was only a stopgap measure till the Nuclear submarines were launched.
I’ve read a little about the XXI ‘boots’... I’d like to have listened to this but I don’t remember enough of my College German Classes... Perhaps you could add English ‘Subtitles’?
@NearAbbeyRoad Before the US joined in the UK had weeks left due to the German U boats blockading food and raw materials to the UK. The battle of britain was fought over the UK as a defensive action. The US intervention cost the UK it went from superpower status before the war to average country after due to debts to the US.
@clintonearlwalker
Well the germans were perfectionists. Just look at the Tiger or Panther tank. No Allied tank was able to destroy it, while the Tiger could destroy them at far longer range. But it was hard to construct and never able to be build in mass production like the T-34 or M4 Sherman. Another thing the Bismarck or the Tirpitz. These both ships with air support. I don't wanna know what these Ships could have done.
Not only air support, with cruisers and destroyers and U boots as scorts, like a battle group.. my god, I think Hitler was too ignorant to manage their powerful warships against the British who had a bigger navy but not better ships as the germans, except for the aircraft carriers.
Panther and Tiger tanks often broke down and the technology was way too ahead of time
I'd like a dedicated feature film or TV series to be made with the Type XXI.
"Das Boot" Seasson 4? 5? :)
elektroboot, köningstiger, Messerschmitt 262...
The world would have been different today if these weapons were available in 1940.
and i don't think it would be a better world...
@NearAbbeyRoad What planet are you from..AA proximity fuses were American the UK did not have a A bomb until 1952... The only thing the brits had that changed the war was the code breaking ability station X everything else was 2nd rate apart from spitfire
how about installing a digital camera?
Too bad I do not speak German, or that there were no English subtitles.
Das Boot kam leider viel zu spät...
this boat was huge.
In nur 3 Monaten ein komplett neues U-Boot entwickeln? Das ist absolut irre.
Die Planung dauerte 3 Monate, der Bau und Entwicklung sind für mich zwei andere Paar Schuhe. Genauer hinhören
you think, are you forgetting that the german U-boat crews were addicted to their radios? they used them incessently. & allied Hunter/Kiler groups using radio direction finding equipment tracked them down & sank them. so no matter what boats they used, they always gave themselves away.
the comparison is not logical. the technology for the raptor was not available at 1943, but the technology for the type XXI was completely available in that year...be logical
typ XXi war den u-booten seiner zeit um jahrzehnte voraus. die allierten entwickelten erst ca. 30 jahre später solche u-boote
can we have an english version please? or alteast with english subtitles?
The Germans had fantastic engineering, but in many cases didn't settle on one design and to just mass produce (IE Tanks). Also there were competing new technologies competing for scarce resources all running concurrently like the type XXI, ME-262, V2, HE111, STG44, etc. The US instead used mass numbers of technologically inferior tanks, aircraft, and small arms by 1945, but they put the R&D expenditure into the Manhattan project and that was the end run needed to win the war.
@NearAbbeyRoad Actually it was the Allies..if the USA had not joined in the war the UK would be speaking German today. Without US support food /arms (lend lease) the UK had months left. Germany took on too much too soon by invading the Soviet Union.
Goddard did some work but he did not build anything like a V2, gyro guidance was used in ships for yrs he lifted the idea from that. Had Goddard cracked it the US would have ballistic missiles before WWII.