Eric in Texas: "Temperature is down to the low eighties. Better put on a sweater." Me in Nova Scotia: "Temperature is down to 55 degrees. Might need a sweater in a few weeks."
Me in Western Nebraska: temperatures are dropping down to the low 40s at night, and remain in the 70s and 80s. Will need a sweatshirt when I head to work in a couple of days.
Me in North Carolina. Temperatures are ranging from low 60’s to high 80’s might need a sweatshirt in the mornings. But as the day goes on. We’ll toss that to the side.
Me in Greenwood South Carolina, I needed a sweater this morning but this afternoon got to 92 with humidity making it feel like 98. It wasn't like this the last 2 weeks.
It’s gonna take a lot more than Samantha Busch to get the next-gen scrapped or at the very least make the necessary changes to deliver a better short track product. Sadly, NASCAR doesn’t care about the criticisms of the car from those in and out of the industry. As long as the France family runs this sport, nothing is going to change.
It’s NASCAR, they don’t care about the criticisms for anything because they have the “any publicity is good publicity” mindset on anything. The Gen 7 car is bipolar, in my opinion. I wish it wasn’t built like some road course ripoff car
it''s incredible that the industry simply accepted that a family could run the association (in name only) and thought that their actions would always be good. Sometimes teams doesn't have enough balls, I swear
Yeah just look at him in the 38 in Xfinity! He often gets top 15s and occasional top 10 and 5s, he deserves the opportunities that he’s getting. I hope he’s in cup again sometime in the near future.
@@8ETHANK8 top 10 and 5 no he is doing better than the guy in the first 4 races but is the least prepared RSS car like they did't had a road course car and where using MBM car for those until recently he is being more consistent in the 20-25 places some rare races he was able to crack the top 15 but sadly for the last 3 weeks in a row mechanichal problems screw him but he is indeed showing better pace in that car that what would normally do
Dibenedetto is right where he should be. He had his chance at the big show and chased away sponsors and fans. He csn drive a race car but half the game is making sponsors happy, and he kind of sucks at that.
Good driver, but he stepped on his ween too often. Dude needs to stop posting vids on social media and basically begging for fans. He was gaining enough organically. Hope to see him make it back to the top. It would be a fun story
The biggest complaint as I understand from the drivers is, they can not feel when the tires break lose. You can fix that by increasing the height of the tire side wall. Smaller wheel, taller side wall.
She’s absolutely right. You could tell from day 1. Why is it taking everyone so long to just say it? It’s a TransAm car with sequential shifter, IRS, is underpowered and unadjustable. You could put proper size tires on it, make the brakes smaller, put the old solid rear axle and Jericho 4 speed, and let the teams put normal motors in them. Those are fixes without changing the template of the car.
I feel like I don’t hear this enough, but I’d like to see them find a way to make the car more breakable, at least in the body. Make it so contact has consequences again, and it’ll adjust the racing. Not a fix for sure, but I think it’ll improve some things
@@EricEstepp yeah, and I think it would help with the driver’s policing themselves too. You’d be less likely to make dangerous moves and have to be smarter with your car
We need different sets of tires you can choose from for all short track races. Give the teams options to do something different to keep it kinda interesting.
What if we have this great car for intermediate tracks but what if at Places like Bristol we don't apply PJ1 and Resin at the same time. I'm not saying that would of caused what happened in the spring. But the concrete surface would of been more abrasive to the tire without anything just to apply more grip.
No it wouldn't in the spring there wasn't another series running putting rubber down..this week they had arca and trucks use your brain...the track was rubbered in this time
Shes not wrong about the car. You take a bunch of guys, who know matter what their oval discipline, came into Nascar with a history of driving some sort of solid axle car, with a solid amount of HP, and a small wheel (large sidewall) between it and the ground. So naturally Nascar decides the right move is to take this group and put them in cars making less power than a lot of them may have been used to, give them a massive amount of tire width, a small amount of sidewall, and IRS. The end result is a car that loads up in the corner differently, doesn't throttle off the corner the same, and when they push it, the shear rate is so much higher with the smaller sidewall, that they're backwards before they can blink an eye. Then match this up with a playoff system that benefits "surviving" over winning, and you end up with complacent race car drivers in a car they're not necessarily comfortable with. This leaves us with a small group of guys capable of consistently wheeling these cars up front (Love it or hate it, Larson being the best example of this), and this hurts even more when you look at the current talent pool at the cup series level, because of the nepotistic traits we've seen with teams for the last 10 years.
Just doing some quick Googling, and it looks like the tire tread width went from 11.5" in Gen6 to 14.3" in the Next Gen, a 24.3% INCREASE in contact patch. So diffuser, drag, and aero aside, you would need, say 24% MORE power to shear the tires and slide the car at the same level as previously. despite this, they took the horsepower at short tracks DOWN from 750 to a spec 670, an 11% decrease. these cars are absolutely GLUED to the track.
I watch on TV. Record it. F1 and Indycar on UA-cam. At least Bristol wasn't dirt. Larson beat the dog crap out of them. DRS. Like F1. I had huge problem with Walmart caution at Atlanta. Ruined the race. Leaders didn't deserve that fiasco.
Here's an idea for the next short track test: Take off the splitter and diffuser. It can't add to the cost, you're taking parts off the car. I'd like to see if that makes the racing better.
I've been a Nascar fan since the mid 70's. The kind of racing I like to watch has a lot of passing, few caution laps, and no overtime. Just my opinion.
Great list this week Eric!! Good points about Chastain he definitely has earned his way in the Top 10. He's got the 4th best average finish this year as well. I also agree with where you placed Briscoe... That team is running good every week.
You asked “what should we do?” The answer: ANYTHING It’s been three years of terrible short track racing which is the heart of southern racing. It’s cost my home track Richmond a race next year. Horsepower on do it! Do something please! Bristol used to be the best race of the year when you could use all three lanes of racing.
This car needs a lot of help but things they need to try are - narrow the tires - take off the under wing -add HP if you do a combo of those things the car would improve along with softer tires but they have to test it... that costs money and Nascar refuses to try those things. Until they take away tire and add Hp they won't make many gains unless Goodyear can figure out tire compounds which they can't seem to do... which isn't fair to them they are being asked to do way more than they should to make up for a poor car the car makes way too much mechanical grip on small tracks they need to take away grip and downforce alone won't take away enough to fix this car
Good move putting Chase Briscoe in your power rankings. I know there are some people out there saying that he wasn’t going to make it out of the round of 12. But I feel like he’s determined to get SHR to the final four in their final year. Now I don’t know if he’ll do it. But I’m rooting for him all of the way.
Hey Eric , good vid as always . Maybe they should stop putting down things like PJ 1 . They only did the first 2 feet off the line , but that allowed everyone to hook the corner right on the line . No sticky stuff at any track anymore . See how that helps make the cars a little more unstable . And as far as Samantha is concerned , sour grapes . Just because Kyle hasn't gotten as good of grip on this car as most everyone else has .
I disagree with the opinion about not being constructive. As fans, we can complain about things and not offer solutions, bc we aren't getting paid for it. We're the ones paying for the product, which is why we have the right to criticize.
They tried an option tire, maybe try an option tire company, like Hoosier for example, especially for the short tracks! That would really make things interesting!!
What if they gave the cars more tire sidewall at some tracks? Just go down on the wheel size and use the lower profile tire on the longer straight aways!
Coming from someone that went to the race (and loves Bristol), sitting in the parking lot for 2 hours trying to leave was more interesting than the race was.
Hot take here. (Probably some people will agree) Nascar currently is to studborn on doing any agressive changes to the car. Up the HP? No, they won't since they think it would be to expensive (Even if Reddick said that even with more then 1000HP it wouldn't have much difference) and would loose interest from other car brands. They focus to much on looking at GoodYear for a "FIX" to improve the bad the car has instead of themselfs doing agressive changes to the car to improve it. I know it would be expensive has shit, but they should at least try.
I went to the Bristol Spring race and was not a fan. I decided to not go to the fall race and I’m not a fan of the impossible to pass racing either. If we can get something where the tires wear at a steady rate over the course of 100 laps that’d be awesome. The main issue is how the cars work aerodynamically, they are horribly designed for racing. We can’t really fix that until they move on to the next gen though.
I thought they did? It may not have looked like it but I believe Goodyear said they did. A fan podcast I was listening to brought up a good point, that the tires last year could have been mislabeled and that was the results we saw. But I don't know how you mislabeled that many tires.
The race at Bristol had plenty of battling back in the pack. No one could touch the 5 though, and when one guy dominates it’s usually boring. Couple that with the cut off battle not being that interesting and you get a rough race. But all it would’ve taken was a guy to get up there and give Larson at least somewhat of a challenge and a little bit more action at the cut off line and this is a good race
Next Gen produced good races, and I feel a certain exaggeration in the criticism as if the car was a complete disaster, but it cannot be denied that several things could be better, the power limitation is criticized by the drivers themselves and some important people from the teams, why not take this test and see what happens?
@@josephperez6706 I’ve enjoyed every short track besides the Richmonds (aside from the most recent) and about half of the Martinsvilles. I’ve enjoyed all of the Bristol races with this car.
How is Ty Dillon getting a Kaulig ride in cup? Isn't there like 50 better options in the lower series I have the fix for the cup car, PUT A SNOWPLOW BLADE on the front
I feel like a good amount of people here have Stockholm syndrome or something but these cars are objectively the worse cars we have had in short tracks. When lapped cars are getting the same times as the leaders there's something seriously wrong with the car.
Nascar Fans are something else man lol. So many races decided by a GWC which tbh are my favorite endings to races and I was hoping the entire time for a last minute caution. But then the best driver goes on to actually win the race and now fans have a problem with that too 😭
Larson has a point though, that's what NASCAR fans are conditioned to expect at this point. A lot of NASCAR fans who don't watch other types of racing confuse chaos for good racing unfortunately.
@TeamAbrams exactly, Larson is right 💯 admittedly I’m not a diehard fan so from a drama/ storyline standpoint I enjoy watching GWC finish, to see who can play spoiler is more entertaining to me than who genuinely deserves to win. What’s confusing (and funny) to me is the hypocrisy I see when the guy who was hands down the best driver actually goes on to win the race, fans are now crying about it being the most boring/worst race ever 😭 gave the fans what they wanted and now they’re complaining more than ever
@@MichaelPalmieri-pk6tqYou're clearly new to Nascar, nobody is complaining about the dominance, they are complaining about the lack of passing throughout the race.
We were there. Complete snooze fest. We'd have left early but I was really hoping for cautions. Any. No passing. No tire falloff. Not a 5 fan. Good for Owen. Marcus needs to take some of that $ and update the bathrooms, at least.
Couple things on Bristol: 1) The repave some years ago that made it progressive banking has killed Bristol 2) PJ1 and resin. These have only ever seemed to make the racing worse. 3) There was a Dale Jr interview w/ Justin Haley sometime back where he said government regulations forced Goodyear to change their tires and that's been a huge factor when it comes to bad racing.
I was there. First trip to Bristol. The stands were definitely packed with people. Not totally full, but there were no empty seats around me and there were no large empty areas. The racing was ATROCIOUS. So boring. Like watching cars spin around a flushing toilet but then never went down. Just kept spinning for ever. Lots of out of town people came to that race, including myself (15 hours each way). I'm sure they were all pissed. The ONLY people who thought it was a great race were the Larson fans. Apparently 27.2% of fans like Kyle Larson.
Here’s a solution. 900hp grooved or treaded tires softer tires and or back to a 15 inch wheel/tire combo and figure out gearing so they’re not shifting on short tracks.
I keep saying, either NASCAR does what's right for the fans and drivers, and give us MORE HORSEPOWER, or probably bring back the Gen 6 for short tracks and road courses
Don't know nothing about physics don't you? Even with more horsepower the car gets soo much grip that won't do a dam thing. Watch F1 or nhra and you'll understand if you are real race fan.
@Marko137-em8nx Don't get me started with you. I've been a racing fan for over 15 years, and you saying I don't know anything about physics, that's ridiculous. This is MY opinion, ok?
I’ve said it from the introduction of this NASCAR euro battering ram car. The Xnifity, trucks and even ARCA put on better show most of the time than the cup cars. ARCA cars even have stickers on them. My opinion
“If you want to see passing we can go out on (Interstate) 465 and pass all you want. For some reason in the last 10 years everybody is on this kick that you have to be passing all the time. It's racing, not passing. “Racing is about figuring out how to take the package you're allowed and make it better than what everybody else has." -Tony Stewart
You're a complete smooth brain for using this quote. The car is objectively bad for racing at short tracks. Having literal lapped cars having the same times as larson is literally proof of a bad package.
@@lmao-ev6nzyou realize he laughed cars multiple times, and all the way up to tenth place I think. If they run the same speed, how did he lap so many?
@@cliff4695 Are fucking kidding me? Larson literally struggled passing lapped cars. Every fast car struggled to pass lapped/slower cars. The only time people passed were on restarts. You have to be a massive nascar shill to even defend this objectively bad short track car.
IDK, it will mean more R&D, but I think the 'best' idea for the car is go to smaller tire patch. Groove slicks or go down an inch or more for tire width.
INDY/F1 model multiple tire options, speed but not durable, to slower but very durable options 2-3 options a race. With a mandate you use 2 different tire compounds a race. Short track and road courses only. Get rid of cautions at stages, be just strategy on fuel/tires. Speedways/super-speedways stay as is.
I get, wanting to have fun running 100% during the race, but you have to prioritize what's entertaining for the fans. If running 50% is what's entertaining for the fans, then that is what you have to do. If you don't like it, you can go. There's 100s, even 1000s of people who would love to be racers in their position. Of course there's star power in Kyle, so that would take a hit, but it doesn't mean another stat won't emerge. The fans are what make the sport. Loosing a few drivers will not kill the sport. I even say this as a huge Hendrick fan. It will still require skill and talent that the fans love to find that balance of how to optimize a race. Look at F1, during the race, they never run 100% because the tires are just that sensitive. You can't say that entertaining races are when drivers are going 100%, even if you find F1 boring, look at the Spring Bristol race, they had to take care of their stuff to optimize their race. You can't even make the argument that fans want the fastest car. If that's true then IndyCar would be the biggest racing series in the US. Maybe even F1. IndyCar easily goes faster than NASCAR on an oval. Entertainment is such a subjective term, it's impossible to please everybody. You will never get every racing fan to watch or spend money on your series. But there are methods that do work can maximize your fanbase. That Bristol intro got me so hyped. I almost never watch a NASCAR race live so I can skip commercials, all the pre-race banter, and even the intros of when it gets back from commercials, because quite frankly, I don't care nor does it grab my attention in which I'm sure many will share that sentiment. But others will love it. I personally think NASCAR needs less races. It's too much... I love NASCAR just as much as any other fan out there, but there's more value when there's less. As a fan of both multiple racing series, I look more forward to the series that have less frequent races such as F1 and MotoGP because they're so rare that when it does happen, it's special. While with NASCAR... It happens every week, it's a routine, I don't care if I miss one here or there, and quite frankly, I don't have enough time to watch every minute of it because the races are so long hence why I almost never watch it live.
The problem is that we can't agree to how to fix the issues with the car even though they tried all of the suggestions there's no guarantee that it'll make the car better. Far as we know it the changes could make it worse.Some changes are needed no doubt but wanting narrowed tires more horsepower for example would it be enough to make the races better on short tracks and road course plus would it work on the larger tracks. You have to factor in everything before anything can be done on the car to fix it.
@derektitch In regards to the tires they can try it but again on track performance is different then a simulation or testing besides they might not her it right the 1st time if they try it during the race. As for the vendors regardless of whose to blame the point is that if they experiment on the car at all it could still fail then they try something else and with NASCAR forcing teams to cut corners in Cup while making it as even as possible how do you work around those problems? The playing field and cost factors issues.
Ok here we go. I've been a NASCAR fan a long time. Since before double file restarts, the lucky dog, GWC overtime, and when lap cars started on the inside row next to lead lap cars. I say this to give some perspective here about racing as I've seen it on Bristol Motor Speedway. Some have mentioned this before on here it's also a track issue. BMS had it's own personality if you will. It's own stigma and notoriety. It was a one groove on the bottom high banked battlefield. That was Bristol PERIOD. You used the bumpers, you pushed, you door banged, wrecked, and you fought your butt off all night to finish. The drivers knew this and loved it but most of all the fans loved it and it showed by selling out the night races year after year. I think it sold out like 55 August races in a row with almost 150k in attendance at one point. That was Bristol baby! You could win there and still be pissed off after the race. Tempers were high and it created the rivalries that lasted for decades. I've always said if you wanna see real Bristol racing UA-cam the 2002 night race. That's what fans sold out the venue to see. Now fast forward to 2007. The re-pave that ruined it all. For whatever idiotic reason the single groove was removed and replaced with progressive banking. It would never be the same style racing or show for the fans again. I think I recall it being explained that the banking was altered by mistake due to a lack of understanding the term progressive banking but I may be wrong. Anyway the racing turned into a top groove style race and it basically killed being able to move anyone to pass as the wall was gonna be there. You couldn't push em out of the way! The fans hated it and wanted something done. Instead we got a big screen and PJ1. None of that helped and BMS sadly was not selling out anymore. The fans had spoken. The track owners again this is bamboozling to me refused to simply fix the track. At one point they may have tried to grind the track out I'm not sure. So they bring in dirt obviously to gimmick it up for a few races with the point being all the money that was spent on quick fixes probably could have been used to just put it back the way it was. Now with all that you add the Gen 7 car to the track...not good. Even on the years after the repave we had the best racing the track could allow. My racing group called it Bristol-Lite. Ok but not what it was ment to be. Now the Gen 7 SHORT track abilities are not good on any track it's obvious and to me it seems the only fix to that is a dramatic overhaul of the vehicle to what that is I'm not sure but definitely something has to change and teams go back to have a specific "short track" car at the shop if need be. Richmond proved that and sadly Martinsville races in the Gen 7 are below par as well. But for purposes of this topic I spewed all this to say as far as Bristol goes it's about 40/60 car being 60 why the fans hated this race. It's because Bristol is suppose to be a half mile battle of bumpers, tempers, chaos, and excitement to what we were given a glimmer of hope to see after the spring race. Unfortunately it was the worst Bristol race I've ever witnessed with these current car+track combo. They both need to be fixed if NASCAR has any hopes of selling out Bristol again. Sorry this is so long but I needed this.. lol
Biggest thing I think would potentially fix anything would be larger sidewall tires and incorporate rollers into the frame rather than rub blocks that beach the cars but I know that won't happen
What’s different about nascar is that as a fan you have a favorite driver who’s competing against 39 others. So you want your driver to win but also want a “good race” so when one of those don’t happen, you’re gonna get complaining by default. Like for all Kyle Larson fans, I bet Bristol was a great race lol
I don't think so. Kyle Lason is one of the greatest racers in the world with a TON of fans (just listen to the cheers when he won this weekend), and yet, the fans gave this rave a crap rating anyway. For example, I like Kyle Larson, but this race was boring as hell to watch!
6:43 I really think that illustrates why it's so important to get someone to the top that really understands "Stock Car Racing" or whatever type of product NASCAR is trying to put out, define what that would actually mean, and then be given fairly wide authority to execute that goal without the worrying as much about the whiplash of popular opinion for each race (admittedly, probably not the same people complaining about each issue, probably just a different set of folks that have a different preference.) or having to get approval through so many internal committees (and external "stakeholders"! 🤮) that it just ends up being an unrecognizable beige amalgam of everyone's ideas with no one person being held accountable to the goal. The goal for the product has to be stated and coherent, and the buck has to stop with someone. Personally, I'll be hoping for Bill France Junior's hologram.
I say start with the horsepower, if that doesn’t work, make the tires skinnier, then move on to aero. I don’t think they’ll do anything beyond that, as far as moving the tech of the car backwards, like going back to a solid rear axle. That would involve moving the transmission back to the front connected to the engine. I just don’t see nascar going backwards like that.
I don’t know if you all noticed, but William Byron often runs really good in the beginning of the year and then once it gets hot out, he seems to not run as well but as soon as the temperature starts going down again his pace picks up at end of season
How about let the teams build some of the "supplied" next gen components that'll give the cars some more differences so they don't run the same lap time
As crazy as it sounds, the solution is simple. Give these cars 1000hp and.... a sequential paddle shift transaxle. I feel like the racing would be incredible but eh one can dream right
My opinion if they don’t want to spend a lot of money like changing the engine package make the tires smaller there 14.5” wide on short tracks drop them down to 10” will increase tire wear that’s what’s used on all these short tracks in latemodels/supers and they are putting out 500-650hp Cup cars are heavier than latemodels which means faster tire wear and it’s very cheap (comparatively) option to try in the
I like Kyle Larson, but we need to remember where he came from. He came from the dirt tracks where you have to run 100% every lap because they are a lot shorter.
Next gen effectively saved the schedule by making intermediates good (which was more than half the season) at the expense of everything else Title decider should not be at Phoenix though
Kyle Larson should really have any say on what a good short track race is considering hes a dirt guy. IMO as a guy who goes to every South Boston race every year and watches the Cars Tour a good short track race is managing your tires, trying to time when you make your move to push up front.
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The next course of action is, whip out the VHS tapes and analyze what made racing so fun to watch during the '90-'00, then replicate it... Go back to the old cars, old racing format, old tires, old tracks, old rules (no stages, no damage clock, etc). Stop trying to make the cars basically perfect - they are too good and too competitive. Their imperfection is what made racing so exciting... everyone now is on rails and the only danger that exists now at the track is weather or not we fall a sleep before the checkered flag waves.
Suggestion: Put a 8 inch wide hard tire on the cars. Then watch to see who is the best driver on a slick track. Fans would love it, drivers would hate it.
I would allow teams to make set-up changes to the next-gen car that they believe would make the car perform better. They can't do anything outside of NASCARs next-gen rule book. Keep a base model of next-gen that all teams get then let teams have at it to seek their solutions for performance. I believe added horsepower would help too but may not make much of a difference since all the cars would still be the same.
I’d say the Next Gen overall has been a failure. Literally the opposite of what Nascar planned (believe it or not) amazing 1.5 mile racing but they have done away with most. Short track and Road Courses are damn near unwatchable.
How about superspeedways you legit can't do anything but sit there the whole race until the end of the race can't make any big moves like in the gen 6 era especially in 2019-2021
I guess this could never work for logistical reasons, but what if they could use two car designs? A short track / road course car similar to the last gen, and this car for the 1.5s.
@@manchasdosAt that point, it would just be easier to go back to 305mm width tires and remove the diffuser and spoiler on the NG. Actually, that doesn’t sound half bad. Similar to what IndyCar does with their Universal Aero Kit, actually. That way we could keep the stellar performance of the Next Gen on 1.5 mile tracks.
I am of the opinion that the cheapest option to improve short track racing and road course racing is to design narrower wheels and add horsepower. It wouldn’t be difficult to do both of those things
Fans consistantly view the old days with rose tinted glasses and remember every single race as a super competitive shootout until the end, but honestly, this is how I remember nascar from when I was a kid. Long green flag runs, no gimmicky cautions, a dominant Hendrick car... Those classic races/finishes that we all love were fewer between than even the finishes we have had in the last 3 years. Was this race exciting? No, and it didn't need to be. Sometimes this is just how it is. You will find this is more common in all froms of motorsport. Are there things that could improve? Always. For the record, I am not a Larson homer either. I am a Truex fan that lived in heartbreak the entire 3rd stage.
I like that you're allowing non-playoff drivers into the power rankings. Kind of annoying when others act like those drivers no longer exist, especially this year with how many so high in the standings got eliminated from winners deep in the field.
The problem with this car is amount of grip and lack of horsepower. Wayyy too much grip, wider tires being a big reason as well as the floor of the cars. And then having less horsepower than the 750 hp Gen 6 cars ran on short tracks and road courses in it's last season is the biggest issues.
There's a very specific reason Bill France Sr./Jr. didn't listen to the drivers. Yes, they without drivers, there's no race. But they don't always have the sport's best interests in mind, only their own selfish ambitions. I.E. Larson's comments this week
I have a theory that you'll see the option tire at Bristol next year and that the tire in the spring was the option tire and the tire from Saturday night is the regular.
Tbh I’m not just saying this because I’m a Kyle Busch fan but samatha is correct and most people aren’t agreeing because look who won, but to be honest what happened to that option tire thing that could’ve been a good solution but nascar said let there be 0 lead changes and 0 passing. This is why I stopped watch the flop series and started watching more xfinity.
I gotta say I LOVE watching cars that can’t pass, it is so exciting to watch cars race off pit road and be stuck. Such an adrenaline rush! Let Samantha vent, put pressure on NASCAR to do something.
This is a comment that’s pretty hard for me to make as a fan of not just Kyle Busch, but the Busch family on the whole. To give you an idea of how many times I’ve met Samantha at KBM Fan Days and at-track appearances, I met her at Daytona the other week and she asked me how my mom was doing. She practically knows me by name. She and Kyle both are amazing people….. But with her tweets about racing, I get the sense that she only likes it if it means Kyle’s benefiting from it. Like, yes, the Next Gen car has its problems on short tracks, but think about how well Kyle was doing with the Gen 6’s from 2015-19………
The only solutions I can think is to narrow the tire width and maybe scrap the diffuser for short tracks. Are these possible? Probably not but it’s worth a try
7:36 What changes would you make to my Power Rankings this week?
Definitely Preece deserves an honorable mention
@@JackCallSports Back to back top10s that's fair.
We don't have me getting a few bucks for diecast 😭
Love the chase briscoe love finally!!!
My pick christopher bell ended up 2nd in power rankings
Eric in Texas: "Temperature is down to the low eighties. Better put on a sweater."
Me in Nova Scotia: "Temperature is down to 55 degrees. Might need a sweater in a few weeks."
Me in Western Nebraska: temperatures are dropping down to the low 40s at night, and remain in the 70s and 80s. Will need a sweatshirt when I head to work in a couple of days.
Lol I live in sask. Just got back from week I NS. That's my home
Me in North Carolina. Temperatures are ranging from low 60’s to high 80’s might need a sweatshirt in the mornings. But as the day goes on. We’ll toss that to the side.
Me in Breckenridge, CO last night when it was 32 degrees: might need to put the shorts away in a month or two.
Me in Greenwood South Carolina, I needed a sweater this morning but this afternoon got to 92 with humidity making it feel like 98. It wasn't like this the last 2 weeks.
The red and white walls are the reason the spring race was so good 😂
This is true.
It’s gonna take a lot more than Samantha Busch to get the next-gen scrapped or at the very least make the necessary changes to deliver a better short track product. Sadly, NASCAR doesn’t care about the criticisms of the car from those in and out of the industry. As long as the France family runs this sport, nothing is going to change.
It’s NASCAR, they don’t care about the criticisms for anything because they have the “any publicity is good publicity” mindset on anything.
The Gen 7 car is bipolar, in my opinion. I wish it wasn’t built like some road course ripoff car
it''s incredible that the industry simply accepted that a family could run the association (in name only) and thought that their actions would always be good.
Sometimes teams doesn't have enough balls, I swear
At least gen 7 is way better than the gen 6 550hp package a lot of so called fake fans love to complain about everything!
@@miketwotwenty oh don’t get me wrong, I’m glad the Gen 6 is done for. But I just think the Gen 7 is bipolar
Yeah, like losing more fans.
It’s sad that Dibenedetto loses rides and then his replacements run half as good as him
Yeah just look at him in the 38 in Xfinity! He often gets top 15s and occasional top 10 and 5s, he deserves the opportunities that he’s getting. I hope he’s in cup again sometime in the near future.
@@8ETHANK8 top 10 and 5 no he is doing better than the guy in the first 4 races but is the least prepared RSS car like they did't had a road course car and where using MBM car for those until recently he is being more consistent in the 20-25 places some rare races he was able to crack the top 15 but sadly for the last 3 weeks in a row mechanichal problems screw him but he is indeed showing better pace in that car that what would normally do
@@irtrafaelhenn3842 Yeah I just looked up his results but still pretty solid for an underprepared car
Dibenedetto is right where he should be. He had his chance at the big show and chased away sponsors and fans. He csn drive a race car but half the game is making sponsors happy, and he kind of sucks at that.
Good driver, but he stepped on his ween too often. Dude needs to stop posting vids on social media and basically begging for fans. He was gaining enough organically. Hope to see him make it back to the top. It would be a fun story
If Alex Bowman makes the round of 8 all the twitter haters are not gonna know what to do I’m convinced.
Bowman and Briscoe deserve to get there and I believe they will.
I SAW MY BOY BRISCOE ON THE THUMBNAIL
We went from cancelling people to cancelling cars. The internet is giving me a headache.
Welcome to the 21st century
@@anthonykeith99everyone and "thing" is entitled
@@kevinrandolph9109It also happens to be the place where "the bar" is set below 6 feet under.
@@shaneharrisnj3484 not disagreeing one bit
The biggest complaint as I understand from the drivers is, they can not feel when the tires break lose. You can fix that by increasing the height of the tire side wall. Smaller wheel, taller side wall.
My uncle said those low profile wheels don't have any "roll" in them
You should apply for a job at NASCAR
How are you going to fit the brake package?
@@garyquesada7778give the teams smaller brakes.
@davecarsley8773 good idea Nascar engineers are g00d for shit
She’s absolutely right. You could tell from day 1. Why is it taking everyone so long to just say it? It’s a TransAm car with sequential shifter, IRS, is underpowered and unadjustable.
You could put proper size tires on it, make the brakes smaller, put the old solid rear axle and Jericho 4 speed, and let the teams put normal motors in them. Those are fixes without changing the template of the car.
I feel like I don’t hear this enough, but I’d like to see them find a way to make the car more breakable, at least in the body. Make it so contact has consequences again, and it’ll adjust the racing. Not a fix for sure, but I think it’ll improve some things
Agree. Bumper to bumper contact rarely results in meaningful damage
@@EricEstepp yeah, and I think it would help with the driver’s policing themselves too. You’d be less likely to make dangerous moves and have to be smarter with your car
Ok but then you'll have crybabies complain because their favorite driver gets taken out for hitting the wall....
@@truckercowboyed2638 let them cry I guess…? Not my problem
We need different sets of tires you can choose from for all short track races. Give the teams options to do something different to keep it kinda interesting.
What if we have this great car for intermediate tracks but what if at Places like Bristol we don't apply PJ1 and Resin at the same time. I'm not saying that would of caused what happened in the spring. But the concrete surface would of been more abrasive to the tire without anything just to apply more grip.
I don't know if that would of worked but it's a better idea then anyone else has given.
Nascar try it
Definitely an idea better then what Samantha Busch said
Could of worked to get some more tire wear then what we saw
No it wouldn't in the spring there wasn't another series running putting rubber down..this week they had arca and trucks use your brain...the track was rubbered in this time
Bring back testing and or happy hour practice... Giving teams more time to work on the cars and figure things out... 🤷
Shes not wrong about the car. You take a bunch of guys, who know matter what their oval discipline, came into Nascar with a history of driving some sort of solid axle car, with a solid amount of HP, and a small wheel (large sidewall) between it and the ground.
So naturally Nascar decides the right move is to take this group and put them in cars making less power than a lot of them may have been used to, give them a massive amount of tire width, a small amount of sidewall, and IRS.
The end result is a car that loads up in the corner differently, doesn't throttle off the corner the same, and when they push it, the shear rate is so much higher with the smaller sidewall, that they're backwards before they can blink an eye.
Then match this up with a playoff system that benefits "surviving" over winning, and you end up with complacent race car drivers in a car they're not necessarily comfortable with.
This leaves us with a small group of guys capable of consistently wheeling these cars up front (Love it or hate it, Larson being the best example of this), and this hurts even more when you look at the current talent pool at the cup series level, because of the nepotistic traits we've seen with teams for the last 10 years.
I’d love to hear Samantha Busch’s vast knowledge of aerodynamics be put to use in fixing the next gen’s flaws
Not like Nascars knowledge is better. All these constant aero changes and it still sucks at short tracks and road courses
Honestly she'd have a good chance at coming up with something better then nascar has.
As if NASCAR's knowledge of aerodynamics are any better
Aerodynamics will not fix the short track racing. I bet Samantha knows that.
@darkknightx0992 yeah not like her husband had a poor race or anything…..
Looking at the entry list for Kansas, Lajoie, and Haley with different numbers looks very different
Wow what a concert captain obvious
@@truckercowboyed2638 shut up. No one asked you. I was saying that it looks different, not about how they were switched. Be quiet.
Just doing some quick Googling, and it looks like the tire tread width went from 11.5" in Gen6 to 14.3" in the Next Gen, a 24.3% INCREASE in contact patch. So diffuser, drag, and aero aside, you would need, say 24% MORE power to shear the tires and slide the car at the same level as previously. despite this, they took the horsepower at short tracks DOWN from 750 to a spec 670, an 11% decrease. these cars are absolutely GLUED to the track.
I watch on TV. Record it. F1 and Indycar on UA-cam.
At least Bristol wasn't dirt. Larson beat the dog crap out of them. DRS. Like F1. I had huge problem with Walmart caution at Atlanta. Ruined the race. Leaders didn't deserve that fiasco.
Here's an idea for the next short track test: Take off the splitter and diffuser. It can't add to the cost, you're taking parts off the car. I'd like to see if that makes the racing better.
Bell said they tried this at a test without telling him and he didn’t feel any difference
@@peternguyen3027take off the undertray too
I've been a Nascar fan since the mid 70's. The kind of racing I like to watch has a lot of passing, few caution laps, and no overtime.
Just my opinion.
Great list this week Eric!! Good points about Chastain he definitely has earned his way in the Top 10. He's got the 4th best average finish this year as well. I also agree with where you placed Briscoe... That team is running good every week.
I'm loving our TX weather!! It's finally fall!! And I'll listen to hot Samantha say anything
You asked “what should we do?” The answer: ANYTHING
It’s been three years of terrible short track racing which is the heart of southern racing. It’s cost my home track Richmond a race next year. Horsepower on do it! Do something please! Bristol used to be the best race of the year when you could use all three lanes of racing.
They were racing multiple lines .. did you even watch
This car needs a lot of help but things they need to try are
- narrow the tires
- take off the under wing
-add HP
if you do a combo of those things the car would improve along with softer tires but they have to test it... that costs money and Nascar refuses to try those things. Until they take away tire and add Hp they won't make many gains unless Goodyear can figure out tire compounds which they can't seem to do... which isn't fair to them they are being asked to do way more than they should to make up for a poor car the car makes way too much mechanical grip on small tracks they need to take away grip and downforce alone won't take away enough to fix this car
I don't see how removing the undertray and diffuser costs money besides testing it, if anything it saves manufacturing costs
Umm you're not an expert just a crybaby on UA-cam
Holy cow, 80s in the mornings in September!‽????‽!?!?!?! That’s crazy hot (I’m from Montana, it’s low 50s in the morning rn, 80 is pretty warm)
Good move putting Chase Briscoe in your power rankings. I know there are some people out there saying that he wasn’t going to make it out of the round of 12. But I feel like he’s determined to get SHR to the final four in their final year. Now I don’t know if he’ll do it. But I’m rooting for him all of the way.
Hey Eric , good vid as always . Maybe they should stop putting down things like PJ 1 . They only did the first 2 feet off the line , but that allowed everyone to hook the corner right on the line . No sticky stuff at any track anymore . See how that helps make the cars a little more unstable . And as far as Samantha is concerned , sour grapes . Just because Kyle hasn't gotten as good of grip on this car as most everyone else has .
I disagree with the opinion about not being constructive. As fans, we can complain about things and not offer solutions, bc we aren't getting paid for it. We're the ones paying for the product, which is why we have the right to criticize.
They tried an option tire, maybe try an option tire company, like Hoosier for example, especially for the short tracks! That would really make things interesting!!
What if they gave the cars more tire sidewall at some tracks? Just go down on the wheel size and use the lower profile tire on the longer straight aways!
First timers at Bristol could become last timers ! I starting fast forwarding the race - thanks that I recovered it .
Back in the day was great bristol races
We regularly got great Bristol races as recently as 2021.
Coming from someone that went to the race (and loves Bristol), sitting in the parking lot for 2 hours trying to leave was more interesting than the race was.
It's always a yawner when one car dominates to this extent. There's not enough drama.
@@tomgeauvreau7099 Cars are too easy to drive, nobody pushing them to the limit and no spins, no crashes.
Kyle wanted to cancel the COT, Samantha wants to cancel the next Gen car. All at Bristol too
Both the next gen car and cot are both cars that were designed to be innovative but fall flat on everything else.
saying a car "it sucks" and saying "cancel a car" are 2 DIFFERENT things
Hot take here. (Probably some people will agree) Nascar currently is to studborn on doing any agressive changes to the car. Up the HP? No, they won't since they think it would be to expensive (Even if Reddick said that even with more then 1000HP it wouldn't have much difference) and would loose interest from other car brands.
They focus to much on looking at GoodYear for a "FIX" to improve the bad the car has instead of themselfs doing agressive changes to the car to improve it. I know it would be expensive has shit, but they should at least try.
I went to the Bristol Spring race and was not a fan. I decided to not go to the fall race and I’m not a fan of the impossible to pass racing either. If we can get something where the tires wear at a steady rate over the course of 100 laps that’d be awesome. The main issue is how the cars work aerodynamically, they are horribly designed for racing. We can’t really fix that until they move on to the next gen though.
I thought the spring race was good but wouldn't want auch excessive tire wear and they wore so fast they were stuck with a single groove track.
Nascar needs to accept that can't just magically make short track racing amazing with better tires. The cars need more HP.
It's not happening stop saying it get over it no hp is being added
Except that’s exactly what happened in the spring. Goodyear needs to make a tire that can replicate that in warm weather.
Can we all agree that GoodYear, didn't bring the same tire compound as the previous race. Wish cause most teams to miss the setup on the cars!🤔
I thought they did? It may not have looked like it but I believe Goodyear said they did. A fan podcast I was listening to brought up a good point, that the tires last year could have been mislabeled and that was the results we saw. But I don't know how you mislabeled that many tires.
Hay man I met you at Daytona and. I’m a huge fan. Nice videos
The race at Bristol had plenty of battling back in the pack. No one could touch the 5 though, and when one guy dominates it’s usually boring. Couple that with the cut off battle not being that interesting and you get a rough race. But all it would’ve taken was a guy to get up there and give Larson at least somewhat of a challenge and a little bit more action at the cut off line and this is a good race
Next Gen produced good races, and I feel a certain exaggeration in the criticism as if the car was a complete disaster, but it cannot be denied that several things could be better, the power limitation is criticized by the drivers themselves and some important people from the teams, why not take this test and see what happens?
I enjoy next gen at everything but short tracks. Basically the opposite of how the gen 6 raced
@@josephperez6706 I’ve enjoyed every short track besides the Richmonds (aside from the most recent) and about half of the Martinsvilles. I’ve enjoyed all of the Bristol races with this car.
Thing with this car there's absolutely 0 in-between...it either puts on an absolutely amazing race or a snoozer and no in-between.
How is Ty Dillon getting a Kaulig ride in cup? Isn't there like 50 better options in the lower series
I have the fix for the cup car, PUT A SNOWPLOW BLADE on the front
I feel like a good amount of people here have Stockholm syndrome or something but these cars are objectively the worse cars we have had in short tracks. When lapped cars are getting the same times as the leaders there's something seriously wrong with the car.
Nascar Fans are something else man lol. So many races decided by a GWC which tbh are my favorite endings to races and I was hoping the entire time for a last minute caution. But then the best driver goes on to actually win the race and now fans have a problem with that too 😭
Larson has a point though, that's what NASCAR fans are conditioned to expect at this point. A lot of NASCAR fans who don't watch other types of racing confuse chaos for good racing unfortunately.
@TeamAbrams exactly, Larson is right 💯 admittedly I’m not a diehard fan so from a drama/ storyline standpoint I enjoy watching GWC finish, to see who can play spoiler is more entertaining to me than who genuinely deserves to win.
What’s confusing (and funny) to me is the hypocrisy I see when the guy who was hands down the best driver actually goes on to win the race, fans are now crying about it being the most boring/worst race ever 😭 gave the fans what they wanted and now they’re complaining more than ever
@@MichaelPalmieri-pk6tqYou're clearly new to Nascar, nobody is complaining about the dominance, they are complaining about the lack of passing throughout the race.
@@TeamAbramsLiterally anyone who watches any other motorsport would consider this bristol race a bad race.
My solutions, don’t run short tracks in the playoffs.
We were there. Complete snooze fest. We'd have left early but I was really hoping for cautions. Any. No passing. No tire falloff. Not a 5 fan. Good for Owen. Marcus needs to take some of that $ and update the bathrooms, at least.
Couple things on Bristol:
1) The repave some years ago that made it progressive banking has killed Bristol
2) PJ1 and resin. These have only ever seemed to make the racing worse.
3) There was a Dale Jr interview w/ Justin Haley sometime back where he said government regulations forced Goodyear to change their tires and that's been a huge factor when it comes to bad racing.
I enjoyed the spring race better then I did the Saturday race it was boring no tire fall off thanks for the update Eric u are the best
Hi Eric, I'm very happy! My very favorite driver Kyle Larson won Number 5 was so fast
This is about Busch not Larson troll
I was there. First trip to Bristol. The stands were definitely packed with people. Not totally full, but there were no empty seats around me and there were no large empty areas. The racing was ATROCIOUS. So boring. Like watching cars spin around a flushing toilet but then never went down. Just kept spinning for ever. Lots of out of town people came to that race, including myself (15 hours each way). I'm sure they were all pissed.
The ONLY people who thought it was a great race were the Larson fans. Apparently 27.2% of fans like Kyle Larson.
Here’s a solution. 900hp grooved or treaded tires softer tires and or back to a 15 inch wheel/tire combo and figure out gearing so they’re not shifting on short tracks.
I keep saying, either NASCAR does what's right for the fans and drivers, and give us MORE HORSEPOWER, or probably bring back the Gen 6 for short tracks and road courses
Don't know nothing about physics don't you? Even with more horsepower the car gets soo much grip that won't do a dam thing. Watch F1 or nhra and you'll understand if you are real race fan.
@Marko137-em8nx Don't get me started with you. I've been a racing fan for over 15 years, and you saying I don't know anything about physics, that's ridiculous. This is MY opinion, ok?
@@cito1101 know about physics before you type that crap ok.
@Marko137-em8nx How about you let me have my own opinions, and you Don't judge me about it. Got it?
I’ve said it from the introduction of this NASCAR euro battering ram car. The Xnifity, trucks and even ARCA put on better show most of the time than the cup cars. ARCA cars even have stickers on them. My opinion
“If you want to see passing we can go out on (Interstate) 465 and pass all you want. For some reason in the last 10 years everybody is on this kick that you have to be passing all the time. It's racing, not passing.
“Racing is about figuring out how to take the package you're allowed and make it better than what everybody else has."
-Tony Stewart
Way to quote the guy who has completely abandoned the sport like his words mean something special.
You're a complete smooth brain for using this quote. The car is objectively bad for racing at short tracks. Having literal lapped cars having the same times as larson is literally proof of a bad package.
@@lmao-ev6nzyou realize he laughed cars multiple times, and all the way up to tenth place I think. If they run the same speed, how did he lap so many?
That Tony quote is so boring but true.
@@cliff4695 Are fucking kidding me? Larson literally struggled passing lapped cars. Every fast car struggled to pass lapped/slower cars. The only time people passed were on restarts. You have to be a massive nascar shill to even defend this objectively bad short track car.
IDK, it will mean more R&D, but I think the 'best' idea for the car is go to smaller tire patch. Groove slicks or go down an inch or more for tire width.
INDY/F1 model multiple tire options, speed but not durable, to slower but very durable options 2-3 options a race. With a mandate you use 2 different tire compounds a race. Short track and road courses only. Get rid of cautions at stages, be just strategy on fuel/tires. Speedways/super-speedways stay as is.
Or all short tracks start with a wet track, just for shits and giggles 😂😂
Use the gen 6 for short track races until they fix the next gen car
Or Xfinity car with more power.
Ty going back to cup is crazy. Creed needs a cup ride.
Recently Creed usually gets off to a poor start but picks up speed and finishes well. That seems like the kind that any owner would want.
I believe Creed deserves to get a good ride in Cup. At least no worse than the Haas equipment.
I get, wanting to have fun running 100% during the race, but you have to prioritize what's entertaining for the fans. If running 50% is what's entertaining for the fans, then that is what you have to do. If you don't like it, you can go. There's 100s, even 1000s of people who would love to be racers in their position.
Of course there's star power in Kyle, so that would take a hit, but it doesn't mean another stat won't emerge. The fans are what make the sport. Loosing a few drivers will not kill the sport. I even say this as a huge Hendrick fan.
It will still require skill and talent that the fans love to find that balance of how to optimize a race. Look at F1, during the race, they never run 100% because the tires are just that sensitive. You can't say that entertaining races are when drivers are going 100%, even if you find F1 boring, look at the Spring Bristol race, they had to take care of their stuff to optimize their race.
You can't even make the argument that fans want the fastest car. If that's true then IndyCar would be the biggest racing series in the US. Maybe even F1. IndyCar easily goes faster than NASCAR on an oval.
Entertainment is such a subjective term, it's impossible to please everybody. You will never get every racing fan to watch or spend money on your series. But there are methods that do work can maximize your fanbase.
That Bristol intro got me so hyped. I almost never watch a NASCAR race live so I can skip commercials, all the pre-race banter, and even the intros of when it gets back from commercials, because quite frankly, I don't care nor does it grab my attention in which I'm sure many will share that sentiment. But others will love it.
I personally think NASCAR needs less races. It's too much... I love NASCAR just as much as any other fan out there, but there's more value when there's less. As a fan of both multiple racing series, I look more forward to the series that have less frequent races such as F1 and MotoGP because they're so rare that when it does happen, it's special. While with NASCAR... It happens every week, it's a routine, I don't care if I miss one here or there, and quite frankly, I don't have enough time to watch every minute of it because the races are so long hence why I almost never watch it live.
The problem is that we can't agree to how to fix the issues with the car even though they tried all of the suggestions there's no guarantee that it'll make the car better. Far as we know it the changes could make it worse.Some changes are needed no doubt but wanting narrowed tires more horsepower for example would it be enough to make the races better on short tracks and road course plus would it work on the larger tracks. You have to factor in everything before anything can be done on the car to fix it.
The problem is the vendors won't allow them to change the big things that would make a difference.
why not have different width tyres for different tracks
@derektitch In regards to the tires they can try it but again on track performance is different then a simulation or testing besides they might not her it right the 1st time if they try it during the race. As for the vendors regardless of whose to blame the point is that if they experiment on the car at all it could still fail then they try something else and with NASCAR forcing teams to cut corners in Cup while making it as even as possible how do you work around those problems? The playing field and cost factors issues.
Why do they keep giving Ty Dillon chances? He has never produced, I just don't get it
Living in New England and hearing 80 is cold is so funny 😂 we in the 40s in the morning here in NH
Ok here we go. I've been a NASCAR fan a long time. Since before double file restarts, the lucky dog, GWC overtime, and when lap cars started on the inside row next to lead lap cars. I say this to give some perspective here about racing as I've seen it on Bristol Motor Speedway. Some have mentioned this before on here it's also a track issue. BMS had it's own personality if you will. It's own stigma and notoriety. It was a one groove on the bottom high banked battlefield. That was Bristol PERIOD. You used the bumpers, you pushed, you door banged, wrecked, and you fought your butt off all night to finish. The drivers knew this and loved it but most of all the fans loved it and it showed by selling out the night races year after year. I think it sold out like 55 August races in a row with almost 150k in attendance at one point. That was Bristol baby! You could win there and still be pissed off after the race. Tempers were high and it created the rivalries that lasted for decades. I've always said if you wanna see real Bristol racing UA-cam the 2002 night race. That's what fans sold out the venue to see. Now fast forward to 2007. The re-pave that ruined it all. For whatever idiotic reason the single groove was removed and replaced with progressive banking. It would never be the same style racing or show for the fans again. I think I recall it being explained that the banking was altered by mistake due to a lack of understanding the term progressive banking but I may be wrong. Anyway the racing turned into a top groove style race and it basically killed being able to move anyone to pass as the wall was gonna be there. You couldn't push em out of the way! The fans hated it and wanted something done. Instead we got a big screen and PJ1. None of that helped and BMS sadly was not selling out anymore. The fans had spoken. The track owners again this is bamboozling to me refused to simply fix the track. At one point they may have tried to grind the track out I'm not sure. So they bring in dirt obviously to gimmick it up for a few races with the point being all the money that was spent on quick fixes probably could have been used to just put it back the way it was. Now with all that you add the Gen 7 car to the track...not good. Even on the years after the repave we had the best racing the track could allow. My racing group called it Bristol-Lite. Ok but not what it was ment to be. Now the Gen 7 SHORT track abilities are not good on any track it's obvious and to me it seems the only fix to that is a dramatic overhaul of the vehicle to what that is I'm not sure but definitely something has to change and teams go back to have a specific "short track" car at the shop if need be. Richmond proved that and sadly Martinsville races in the Gen 7 are below par as well. But for purposes of this topic I spewed all this to say as far as Bristol goes it's about 40/60 car being 60 why the fans hated this race. It's because Bristol is suppose to be a half mile battle of bumpers, tempers, chaos, and excitement to what we were given a glimmer of hope to see after the spring race. Unfortunately it was the worst Bristol race I've ever witnessed with these current car+track combo. They both need to be fixed if NASCAR has any hopes of selling out Bristol again. Sorry this is so long but I needed this.. lol
Biggest thing I think would potentially fix anything would be larger sidewall tires and incorporate rollers into the frame rather than rub blocks that beach the cars but I know that won't happen
What’s different about nascar is that as a fan you have a favorite driver who’s competing against 39 others. So you want your driver to win but also want a “good race” so when one of those don’t happen, you’re gonna get complaining by default. Like for all Kyle Larson fans, I bet Bristol was a great race lol
I don't think so. Kyle Lason is one of the greatest racers in the world with a TON of fans (just listen to the cheers when he won this weekend), and yet, the fans gave this rave a crap rating anyway.
For example, I like Kyle Larson, but this race was boring as hell to watch!
6:43 I really think that illustrates why it's so important to get someone to the top that really understands "Stock Car Racing" or whatever type of product NASCAR is trying to put out, define what that would actually mean, and then be given fairly wide authority to execute that goal without the worrying as much about the whiplash of popular opinion for each race (admittedly, probably not the same people complaining about each issue, probably just a different set of folks that have a different preference.) or having to get approval through so many internal committees (and external "stakeholders"! 🤮) that it just ends up being an unrecognizable beige amalgam of everyone's ideas with no one person being held accountable to the goal. The goal for the product has to be stated and coherent, and the buck has to stop with someone. Personally, I'll be hoping for Bill France Junior's hologram.
I say start with the horsepower, if that doesn’t work, make the tires skinnier, then move on to aero. I don’t think they’ll do anything beyond that, as far as moving the tech of the car backwards, like going back to a solid rear axle. That would involve moving the transmission back to the front connected to the engine. I just don’t see nascar going backwards like that.
Can't agree more with Samantha Busch. Put in the solid axle back!
I don’t know if you all noticed, but William Byron often runs really good in the beginning of the year and then once it gets hot out, he seems to not run as well but as soon as the temperature starts going down again his pace picks up at end of season
How about let the teams build some of the "supplied" next gen components that'll give the cars some more differences so they don't run the same lap time
As crazy as it sounds, the solution is simple. Give these cars 1000hp and.... a sequential paddle shift transaxle. I feel like the racing would be incredible but eh one can dream right
HP? Yes. Paddle shift? No. These are stock cars.
1000 hp and solid rear axle would do it.
Whenever someone starts a statement with “not saying this just because………” then what they are about to say is only because of what they say it isn’t.
My opinion if they don’t want to spend a lot of money like changing the engine package make the tires smaller there 14.5” wide on short tracks drop them down to 10” will increase tire wear that’s what’s used on all these short tracks in latemodels/supers and they are putting out 500-650hp
Cup cars are heavier than latemodels which means faster tire wear and it’s very cheap (comparatively) option to try in the
Gotta increase the horsepower a bunch (like 150+) and then the tires have to wear-out
Have an grate night Eric
I like Kyle Larson, but we need to remember where he came from. He came from the dirt tracks where you have to run 100% every lap because they are a lot shorter.
Next gen effectively saved the schedule by making intermediates good (which was more than half the season) at the expense of everything else
Title decider should not be at Phoenix though
Kyle Larson should really have any say on what a good short track race is considering hes a dirt guy. IMO as a guy who goes to every South Boston race every year and watches the Cars Tour a good short track race is managing your tires, trying to time when you make your move to push up front.
Hey Eric, I won the Georgia Boiled Peanuts fan experience at Atlanta. They said I could get boiled peanuts for 1 year, or a couples massage with you (hot stone, foot scrub, and cucumber facial). They said I can redeem it with you at Martinsville? Let me know so I can lay off the Martinsville hot dogs (chili and coleslaw - of course). They said the spa area is in the infield near turn 3. Can't wait to relax and talk shop brother.
The next course of action is, whip out the VHS tapes and analyze what made racing so fun to watch during the '90-'00, then replicate it... Go back to the old cars, old racing format, old tires, old tracks, old rules (no stages, no damage clock, etc). Stop trying to make the cars basically perfect - they are too good and too competitive. Their imperfection is what made racing so exciting... everyone now is on rails and the only danger that exists now at the track is weather or not we fall a sleep before the checkered flag waves.
Matty D needs to drive in the cup series again
2nd chance in cup for Ty more like 4th (13,77,42 and now possibly the 31) ridiculous
2:56 Kyle won Bristol dirt in 2022, that’s probably worth mentioning.
He was sitting about 3rd and the top 2 took each other out, so it was kind of a gift.
@@TheSaturnV He intimidated both of them. They were racing for who beats Busch at Bristol...
Suggestion: Put a 8 inch wide hard tire on the cars. Then watch to see who is the best driver on a slick track. Fans would love it, drivers would hate it.
I would allow teams to make set-up changes to the next-gen car that they believe would make the car perform better. They can't do anything outside of NASCARs next-gen rule book. Keep a base model of next-gen that all teams get then let teams have at it to seek their solutions for performance. I believe added horsepower would help too but may not make much of a difference since all the cars would still be the same.
The guy who seems to cause half the incidents to spark multiple overtimes being the one to complain about races having multiple overtimes is something
Take off whatever. Things the back bumper of the race cars
I’d say the Next Gen overall has been a failure. Literally the opposite of what Nascar planned (believe it or not) amazing 1.5 mile racing but they have done away with most. Short track and Road Courses are damn near unwatchable.
Especially the short tracks. Whoever gets out front early on, the race is pretty much over at that point.
How about superspeedways you legit can't do anything but sit there the whole race until the end of the race can't make any big moves like in the gen 6 era especially in 2019-2021
@@brandondavis8790 yeah I agree. But it’s always a good finish so it’s skewed.
I guess this could never work for logistical reasons, but what if they could use two car designs? A short track / road course car similar to the last gen, and this car for the 1.5s.
@@manchasdosAt that point, it would just be easier to go back to 305mm width tires and remove the diffuser and spoiler on the NG. Actually, that doesn’t sound half bad. Similar to what IndyCar does with their Universal Aero Kit, actually. That way we could keep the stellar performance of the Next Gen on 1.5 mile tracks.
I personally like the Next Gen car. It’s produced some of the best racing in my opinion. Especially the amount of photo finishes. It’s a great car
@@WheelerMotorsports I agree I don’t miss the gen 6 expect for 2013 to 2018 but I really loved the gen 5 without the cot wing!
Briscoe could be sneaky
I am of the opinion that the cheapest option to improve short track racing and road course racing is to design narrower wheels and add horsepower. It wouldn’t be difficult to do both of those things
Fans consistantly view the old days with rose tinted glasses and remember every single race as a super competitive shootout until the end, but honestly, this is how I remember nascar from when I was a kid. Long green flag runs, no gimmicky cautions, a dominant Hendrick car... Those classic races/finishes that we all love were fewer between than even the finishes we have had in the last 3 years. Was this race exciting? No, and it didn't need to be. Sometimes this is just how it is. You will find this is more common in all froms of motorsport. Are there things that could improve? Always. For the record, I am not a Larson homer either. I am a Truex fan that lived in heartbreak the entire 3rd stage.
I like that you're allowing non-playoff drivers into the power rankings. Kind of annoying when others act like those drivers no longer exist, especially this year with how many so high in the standings got eliminated from winners deep in the field.
The problem with this car is amount of grip and lack of horsepower. Wayyy too much grip, wider tires being a big reason as well as the floor of the cars. And then having less horsepower than the 750 hp Gen 6 cars ran on short tracks and road courses in it's last season is the biggest issues.
There's a very specific reason Bill France Sr./Jr. didn't listen to the drivers. Yes, they without drivers, there's no race. But they don't always have the sport's best interests in mind, only their own selfish ambitions.
I.E. Larson's comments this week
I have a theory that you'll see the option tire at Bristol next year and that the tire in the spring was the option tire and the tire from Saturday night is the regular.
Tbh I’m not just saying this because I’m a Kyle Busch fan but samatha is correct and most people aren’t agreeing because look who won, but to be honest what happened to that option tire thing that could’ve been a good solution but nascar said let there be 0 lead changes and 0 passing.
This is why I stopped watch the flop series and started watching more xfinity.
I gotta say I LOVE watching cars that can’t pass, it is so exciting to watch cars race off pit road and be stuck. Such an adrenaline rush!
Let Samantha vent, put pressure on NASCAR to do something.
If NASCAR don't listen to fans let alone drivers why would they listen to a driver's wife!?
This is a comment that’s pretty hard for me to make as a fan of not just Kyle Busch, but the Busch family on the whole. To give you an idea of how many times I’ve met Samantha at KBM Fan Days and at-track appearances, I met her at Daytona the other week and she asked me how my mom was doing. She practically knows me by name. She and Kyle both are amazing people…..
But with her tweets about racing, I get the sense that she only likes it if it means Kyle’s benefiting from it. Like, yes, the Next Gen car has its problems on short tracks, but think about how well Kyle was doing with the Gen 6’s from 2015-19………
The only solutions I can think is to narrow the tire width and maybe scrap the diffuser for short tracks. Are these possible? Probably not but it’s worth a try
Bristol martinsville richmond , Run those events in super late models , 💪