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Mike said to make sure your doing curls with a straight bar but when I do I always get pain in my forearms. Yes I feel it great in the biceps but the pain otherwise in my forearms makes this impossible for me
my right bicep has been giving me pain for months now (working them once a month). Think it is a form issue as there is plenty of time for recovery and have gotten stronger meaning muscle been built.
@@cerberus2373 be careful you haven’t damaged any nerves in particular your radial and ulnar nerves. Muscle injuries often heal much faster than nerve damage and if your giving the bicep enough rest it should start to feel better. Nerve damage on the other hand can often take much longer to recover and needs specific exercise treatment
That was one of myriad things Mike was wrong about. Drew Baye says to use whatever doesn't cause pain. Never exercise in pain (different from *_exertional discomfort,_* which is *_not_* something to be avoided)
Same. Switched to cable curls. The bicep tension feels more uniform and constant too. Waiting for my forearm and elbow to heal before returning to barbell.
I've never tried this, but since Mike has us doing dips after pushdown, wouldn't it also be productive to do pulldowns after curls? Do the multi-joint movement after the single? He said biceps are easily overtrained, so I'm guessing that is the explanation.
When working out the biceps performing the curls with the straight bar, is it better to go up higher in rep with the highest rep possible to enable 6-8 to failure, or a lower weight to hit 8-10? I notice Marcus is hitting what looks to be only 30 pounds on the exercise as opposed to 100
John, your freind Mike must have been subconsiously banging his head off the wall when taking Marcus through the bicep curls. Having seemingly got to the point of momentary muscular failure with Mike having to provide assistance for the last rep and being told to put the bar down, Marcus states "One more" and bangs another rep out without going to MMF lol. It bring to mind the hazards of live broadcasts with animals, despite a good script anything can happen. All the best and thanks again for posting.
Yes I think Marcus was trying to act for the video and we end up with moments like you describe. Somewhere there is video of Marcus commenting on his memories of filming. Wish we had some more examples of Mike training people, but I am glad we have what we do.
Does anyone have trouble progressively overloading on barbell curls specifically? I have been stuck on the same weight for 5-6 reps for a month or so, but all of my other lifts are progressing.
Have you tried getting someone for assisted reps? I find I’m able to progress perfectly fine on barbell curls by at least 2 reps or in weight each time
Yes that makes sense because the top is the easiest position, like Mike said, no resistance there. I do like to do occasional static holds while the elbow is at 90 degrees.
@@georiv2834 Yes I have lost 140lbs in a year with no drugs, a simple ketogenic diet with a caloric deficit and high intensity training. Mike said all those years ago that muscle absolutely can be built while losing fat and he was right, my own experience proves it. Basically did no cardio (although in the past month I added in "Zone 2 cardio" as Mike suggested was best for burning fat, science has proved him right again on that) using weight training following Mike's guidelines. It's incredible the results I've had, people think I've taken something. I am proud to say it is all natural, diet and Mike Mentzer's training theories. I never worked out more than maybe 20 mins in any single workout day. I am just 10lbs away from my goal now and when I stop being on a caloric deficit I can't wait to see the continued progress. Good luck my friend.
Hey John, you always time these really well because next up is arms for me. One question I have is how does one address sticking points? I've been following the ideal program for around 4 months and all my lifts have improved significantly. (40-80lbs depending on isolated, or compound exercises, for reps). Objectively, I'm getting stronger. However, I recently performed a BodPod and found that my lean muscle mass only increased about half a pound since assessing 3 months ago. I was shocked as I thought I had been improving/recomposing as described in the books and lectures. That said, should I continue with the ideal program and reach the foretold sticking point, or should I immediately switch the the 4-excercise consolidated program and accept I'm a hard gainer?
Given that you have only been using the program for four months, I wouldn’t worry too much. As Mike indicated, strength gains, precede size gains, and this is true to whatever extent your genetics permit your muscles to grow bigger. You indicate that you are up a half pound of muscle over the past three months, which is not bad. You are obviously heading in the right direction. Mike had said elsewhere that 5 pound gain in a year is actually quite good. And that 10 pounds would be beyond the reach of most people, particularly those who have been training for some time. However, if you’ve been training for several years, that is a good rate of gain. While everybody wants to gain faster, remember that genetics will determine your response. There are other factors that can help the rate of muscle growth or hinder it. For example, are you taking sufficient days off in between workouts? Are you eating extra calories to provide for additional muscle growth? Are you doing other activities that would compete for your recovery resources? Stress, poor or irregular sleep, insufficient nutrition , and additional activities all can delay the muscle growth process.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Hey John, thank you for the response. I'll keep gaining strength with the ideal program. To be completely honest, I have been combining hypertrophy training with Taekwondo practice for the past month, but I'd still leave about 4 days between any workouts. I figured since I was still gaining strength at an accelerated rate, it must directly coincide with muscle growth. I can definitely improve on sleep and stress management as well. That said, I will lean in fully after academics and TKD suspend in May. Thank you again for the response and I'll keep you posted over the upcoming months.
Just did a workout be felt I chickened out on that last all out rep to failure. I think this style of training works best with a motivated partner to keep you going. I think Dorian Yates had a great coach if you watch his sessions.
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I always love that last almost impossible rep. It requires so much focus and mental strength.
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Greetings and Love from Baku, Azerbaijan.💪🏻🇦🇿❤️
Marcus is a lucky man who trained with mike
I use Mike's method and I am very pleased, I see the results, I train only twice a week,
Same here
How many sets and reps you do ?
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Mike said to make sure your doing curls with a straight bar but when I do I always get pain in my forearms. Yes I feel it great in the biceps but the pain otherwise in my forearms makes this impossible for me
my right bicep has been giving me pain for months now (working them once a month). Think it is a form issue as there is plenty of time for recovery and have gotten stronger meaning muscle been built.
@@cerberus2373 be careful you haven’t damaged any nerves in particular your radial and ulnar nerves. Muscle injuries often heal much faster than nerve damage and if your giving the bicep enough rest it should start to feel better. Nerve damage on the other hand can often take much longer to recover and needs specific exercise treatment
That was one of myriad things Mike was wrong about. Drew Baye says to use whatever doesn't cause pain. Never exercise in pain (different from *_exertional discomfort,_* which is *_not_* something to be avoided)
Do you flex/bend your wrist?
Do you try to supinate with your pinky and ring finger?
If you do correct form, it shouldn' t cause pain
Same. Switched to cable curls. The bicep tension feels more uniform and constant too. Waiting for my forearm and elbow to heal before returning to barbell.
I've never tried this, but since Mike has us doing dips after pushdown, wouldn't it also be productive to do pulldowns after curls? Do the multi-joint movement after the single? He said biceps are easily overtrained, so I'm guessing that is the explanation.
Only one workout for bicep ?
Yeah bc on chest and back day you hit inderect arm
Ya I thought everything had a superset I was disappointed to see that
When working out the biceps performing the curls with the straight bar, is it better to go up higher in rep with the highest rep possible to enable 6-8 to failure, or a lower weight to hit 8-10? I notice Marcus is hitting what looks to be only 30 pounds on the exercise as opposed to 100
I can never superset at my gym. Too many assholes sitting on the equipment looking at their cellphones.
Change your gym or go at unsocial hours when there’s hardly anyone there
Foreal yo Its like are you here to work or socializing
John, your freind Mike must have been subconsiously banging his head off the wall when taking Marcus through the bicep curls.
Having seemingly got to the point of momentary muscular failure with Mike having to provide assistance for the last rep and being told to put the bar down, Marcus states "One more" and bangs another rep out without going to MMF lol.
It bring to mind the hazards of live broadcasts with animals, despite a good script anything can happen.
All the best and thanks again for posting.
Yes I think Marcus was trying to act for the video and we end up with moments like you describe. Somewhere there is video of Marcus commenting on his memories of filming. Wish we had some more examples of Mike training people, but I am glad we have what we do.
1 set for biceps 💀💀. Guess i gotta do what mike says
Great video Mr. John, love to see this videos of Mike
Does anyone have trouble progressively overloading on barbell curls specifically? I have been stuck on the same weight for 5-6 reps for a month or so, but all of my other lifts are progressing.
Have you tried getting someone for assisted reps? I find I’m able to progress perfectly fine on barbell curls by at least 2 reps or in weight each time
Your bicep looks like it's ready to explode hahahaha
I’m curious to see what happened with this guy getting trained and if he stuck with Mike methods or not
He stuck with Mike’s methods and is a personal trainer in Las Vegas presently.
So don’t do static hold at the top while rep on biceps curl??
Yes that makes sense because the top is the easiest position, like Mike said, no resistance there. I do like to do occasional static holds while the elbow is at 90 degrees.
Try to squeeze or flex the biceps at the top.
That’s going to hurt on arm day! I’m giving those a go!!
Mike is so awesome ❤
I thought that the biceps curl needed a warmup set. Guess it’s one all out set like calves.
I need to lose like 35 pounds with eating right and doing this workouts has anyone lost weight
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@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE thanks alot
@@georiv2834 You're welcome.
@@georiv2834 Yes I have lost 140lbs in a year with no drugs, a simple ketogenic diet with a caloric deficit and high intensity training. Mike said all those years ago that muscle absolutely can be built while losing fat and he was right, my own experience proves it. Basically did no cardio (although in the past month I added in "Zone 2 cardio" as Mike suggested was best for burning fat, science has proved him right again on that) using weight training following Mike's guidelines. It's incredible the results I've had, people think I've taken something. I am proud to say it is all natural, diet and Mike Mentzer's training theories. I never worked out more than maybe 20 mins in any single workout day. I am just 10lbs away from my goal now and when I stop being on a caloric deficit I can't wait to see the continued progress. Good luck my friend.
Yes quite coordinated 😂
Hey John, you always time these really well because next up is arms for me. One question I have is how does one address sticking points? I've been following the ideal program for around 4 months and all my lifts have improved significantly. (40-80lbs depending on isolated, or compound exercises, for reps). Objectively, I'm getting stronger. However, I recently performed a BodPod and found that my lean muscle mass only increased about half a pound since assessing 3 months ago. I was shocked as I thought I had been improving/recomposing as described in the books and lectures. That said, should I continue with the ideal program and reach the foretold sticking point, or should I immediately switch the the 4-excercise consolidated program and accept I'm a hard gainer?
How many rest days?
Given that you have only been using the program for four months, I wouldn’t worry too much. As Mike indicated, strength gains, precede size gains, and this is true to whatever extent your genetics permit your muscles to grow bigger. You indicate that you are up a half pound of muscle over the past three months, which is not bad. You are obviously heading in the right direction. Mike had said elsewhere that 5 pound gain in a year is actually quite good. And that 10 pounds would be beyond the reach of most people, particularly those who have been training for some time. However, if you’ve been training for several years, that is a good rate of gain. While everybody wants to gain faster, remember that genetics will determine your response. There are other factors that can help the rate of muscle growth or hinder it. For example, are you taking sufficient days off in between workouts? Are you eating extra calories to provide for additional muscle growth? Are you doing other activities that would compete for your recovery resources? Stress, poor or irregular sleep, insufficient nutrition , and additional activities all can delay the muscle growth process.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Hey John, thank you for the response. I'll keep gaining strength with the ideal program. To be completely honest, I have been combining hypertrophy training with Taekwondo practice for the past month, but I'd still leave about 4 days between any workouts. I figured since I was still gaining strength at an accelerated rate, it must directly coincide with muscle growth. I can definitely improve on sleep and stress management as well. That said, I will lean in fully after academics and TKD suspend in May. Thank you again for the response and I'll keep you posted over the upcoming months.
Just did a workout be felt I chickened out on that last all out rep to failure. I think this style of training works best with a motivated partner to keep you going. I think Dorian Yates had a great coach if you watch his sessions.