Carbocation Stability - Hyperconjugation, Inductive Effect & Resonance Structures

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  • @itsmemanisha
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    at 2:25 for anyone curious, its actually because the sigma bond overlaps with the Pi star Antibonding Molecular Orbital specifically.

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  • @757discs
    @757discs 5 років тому +40

    In the last example, why can't the double bond on the oxygen transfer electrons to the single C-C bond, negating the carbocation and giving the O a + charge??

    • @asharibimran5645
      @asharibimran5645 5 років тому +2

      Carbo cation is already present there and based upon there electronegativity difference oxygen atom will except e and will make carbon positive charge

    • @meeblings6
      @meeblings6 5 років тому

      @@asharibimran5645 Why doesn't this happen in the resonance examples where nitrogen is within a ring structure?

    • @tuapukky9574
      @tuapukky9574 4 роки тому +1

      @@meeblings6 revise the order of inductive effect first

    • @rohanbarde5958
      @rohanbarde5958 3 роки тому +6

      Oxygen is more electronegative than Carbon. So π bond will not break towards carbon.

    • @dream-ui2gp
      @dream-ui2gp 3 роки тому +1

      @@meeblings6 In the structures containing nitrogen the electron deficient carbon is right next to N and there is a single bond between N and C so Nitrogen can donate lone pair to the carbon atom. But in the last structure the carbonation is not right next to oxygen and oxygen already has a double bond with C and if it were to further donate l.p a triple bond would be highly unstable. Even the carbon would have 5 bonds which would mean it has to break bond with another carbon. So the double bond breaks and electrons of the bond go to oxygen as it is more electronegative.

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  • @nosir1479
    @nosir1479 2 роки тому +2

    2:26
    How would the inductive effect apply to a methyl group considering there are no R groups attached to the carbocation?

    • @ubiquitousgamer955
      @ubiquitousgamer955 2 роки тому +2

      methly group is electron donating group, moreover R groups doesn't matter as long as methyl group is attached to the +ve carbon, it will stabilize using inductive effect and hyperconjugation, compared to stability by hyperconjugation, stability due to inductive effect is negligible.

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  • @anthonygeorge5529
    @anthonygeorge5529 Рік тому +2

    at about 10:30, why can't we draw a resonance structure where one of the bonds from the Carbon oxygen bonds moves to form a double bond between the two carbons. In this case, oxygen will have the positive charge and both carbons will be neutral. Will this just not happen due to Oxygen's high electronegativity and because oxygen will no longer have an octet?

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  • @how-about-no_56
    @how-about-no_56 5 місяців тому +2

    Hi, at 5:46 shouldn't 2 be less stable than 3 since 2 is antiaromatic, i.e. conjugation of 4 pi electrons?

    • @jowillll
      @jowillll 2 місяці тому

      I didnt realize that, thanks for bringing this up!

    • @paysonkeown2960
      @paysonkeown2960 2 місяці тому +1

      2 isn’t antiaromatic since the bottom carbon is sp3 hybridized

    • @praneethalva7776
      @praneethalva7776 2 дні тому +1

      ​@@paysonkeown2960Just realised that! I had the same confusion as the original commenter! Thanks for reminding!

  • @rashmirashmi5234
    @rashmirashmi5234 Рік тому +1

    Why carbocation has stability has
    3°>2°>1°
    Where as carbo anion
    1°>2°>3°

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  • @mellissabeldjenna7960
    @mellissabeldjenna7960 10 місяців тому

    Hi, just a question. For the last example, can't the right structure make a resonance structure that's more stable by donating the electrons in the double that's in between the "O" and the "C" to the bond to the left making the oxygen have a positive charge on it? And thus that would make it more stable?

    • @shubhada78
      @shubhada78 9 місяців тому

      That would happen in 2 steps, first the carbon attains -ve charge and then it passes it on (that's what you're trying to say? correct me if I'm wrong)
      But then the carbon would be unstable and it can't accept electrons to destabilise itself. So it won't happen that way
      Anyway thats what I think I may be wrong

  • @shenjiebao2876
    @shenjiebao2876 4 роки тому +2

    6:22 that ring has a resonance structure??how??if we pin every carbon could we get 6 resonance structure?

    • @saransh255
      @saransh255 3 роки тому +1

      The resonance is between that double bond shifting between 2 positions, it doesn't a a whole loop because the electron is loses to break the first double bond gets to the positively charged carbon right next to it, so there isn't much movement, and hence, the resonance is only between 2 spots

  • @rubaljoshi1575
    @rubaljoshi1575 5 років тому +1

    @3:56 how is the resonance structure possible? Since the OH has a double bond, it would mean that the Oxygen atom has 3 bonds which is not possible

    • @mizzi3136
      @mizzi3136 4 роки тому +3

      why is it not possible? the oxygen atom have 2 lone pairs, and OH are bonded with a single sigma bond

    • @plasmada263
      @plasmada263 3 роки тому

      If the oxygen atom aquires an unit positive charge it'll be able to form 3 bonds because it'll now have 3 half vacant p orbitals as it lost one elrctron from one of it's 2 lone pairs

    • @plasmada263
      @plasmada263 3 роки тому

      U can also understand it in terms of hybridization, initially in neutral stage the oxygen atom was sp3 hybridised now after acquiring a positive charge it's sp2 as it has formed a pi bond with that carbon atom which means the hybridised orbital which was initially holding the lone pair is now formed a pi bond with the carbon

    • @karlvalteroja4675
      @karlvalteroja4675 3 роки тому

      @@mizzi3136 I have been wondering if oxygen could, in theory, give 4 bonds, since it has 2 lone pairs? I think this would just be extremely unstable, but would it be possible?

  • @sophiamoon2814
    @sophiamoon2814 4 роки тому +1

    THANKS! I finally figured it out

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  • @mranonymous_25
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    Great explanation... thanks a lot

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  • @mohamadhanan5706
    @mohamadhanan5706 4 роки тому +3

    In the last example, why can't pair of e of the O atom make a double bond with the + charge?!
    like the one at 3:55

    • @clarissarojas3980
      @clarissarojas3980 4 роки тому +2

      In the last example, the positive change is not on the carbon that is attached to the oxygen atom, so having the double bond there doesn’t affect that positive charge. He draws the resonance structure to show how the carbonyl group is an electron withdrawing group and forms another positively charged carbon, which further destabilizes the molecule

    • @lisaa23581
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    Why JG tho?

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  • @rachit5762
    @rachit5762 3 роки тому +1

    Carbocations is more stabilised due to:
    A.) INDUCTIVE EFFECT
    B.) HYPERCONJUGATION
    C.) INDUCTIVE AND MESOMERIC EFFECT
    D.) INDUCTIVE AND HYPERCONJUGATION EFFECT

    • @thelosttomato4020
      @thelosttomato4020 2 роки тому

      C) Resonance is stronger than both hyperconjugation and inductive effect.

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  • @IloveLeeDaHye
    @IloveLeeDaHye 4 роки тому +1

    For 3:21 I agree that oxygen really have an higher electronegativity, but it's only an partial charged , while the adjacent carbon carry positive chaged ,can the oxgen really draw the electron density towards it-self ? positive charge should have an stronger charge attractions than the partial negative charge ,by means the electron density should draw to positive charged carbon🧐🧐🧐🧐

    • @mizzi3136
      @mizzi3136 4 роки тому +2

      partial charge is only used to tell which one is more electronegative than the others, while formal negative/ positive charge (as the carbocation that have positive charge) indicates gain or loss of electrons, and we know that oxygen atoms are more electronegative than carbon, so oxygen have the partial negative charge and carbon have the partial positive charge. carbocation is a carbon atom that loses electrons, so if we compare carbocation with oxygen, the oxygen is still having more electronegativity (partial negative charged) than carbocation (partial positive charged). so the oxygen atom there is more likely to pull electrons from the carbocation.

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  • @pranavkhedekar6727
    @pranavkhedekar6727 4 роки тому

    Can someone explain me, why at 2:05 the atomic orbitals will overlap?

    • @karamellfunnyla
      @karamellfunnyla 4 роки тому +1

      I think it's because of the position of the atomic orbitals. they're both the p-Orbitals, and they can overlap from side to side... ( I am sorry, English is not my mother language. I'm trying my best) :)

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  • @nicolaslandeourtecho5396
    @nicolaslandeourtecho5396 2 роки тому

    Resonance effect

  • @shantharavi3489
    @shantharavi3489 4 роки тому

    5:45 I agree that the last structure is more stable than the rest but I think the order of stability is wrong cuz the 2nd structure is aromatic and the 3rd structure is Anti aromatic so the 2nd structure has got to be more stable right?pls crct me if I'm wrong

    • @SaiKrishna-lb3uf
      @SaiKrishna-lb3uf 3 роки тому +1

      Second structure is not aromatic as it has sp3 carbon atom

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  • @KarthikVlogz
    @KarthikVlogz Рік тому

    3:43

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  • @bobu5213
    @bobu5213 4 роки тому +3

    How exactly do you define resonance?

    • @niedem
      @niedem 4 роки тому +3

      As far as my understanding goes, resonance is kind of the schrodingers cat of (organic) chemistry. This meaning, two resonant structures (such as the two benzene options) both exist at the same time. Instead of there being an equilibrium, both products don't actually exist seperately but the form the individual molecules take is in between the forms, and the drawn resonance structures are the two "ultimate" forms

    • @TheBigSnek
      @TheBigSnek 4 роки тому +7

      Resonance is basically you rolling around in bed trying to find the more comfortable position, and the resonance structure is basically all your positions represented as one (kinda overlapped)

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  • @romeostonem6798
    @romeostonem6798 3 роки тому

    how the hell does the ressoance effect make it better? the positive charge is still there its still has unstable its not doing anything to stabilize it just moving the positive charge to another atom in the samr molecule

    • @romeostonem6798
      @romeostonem6798 3 роки тому +2

      forget it its because the positive charge is shared around them

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  • @hansomekim1219
    @hansomekim1219 2 роки тому +1

    For the last example, this resonance structure would also work: snipboard.io/BelxDS.jpg
    So it's not clear which structure is more stable.

    • @sporty4256
      @sporty4256 Рік тому

      But then you'd have a positive charge on the atom that is more electronegative which is not stable

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