The Sad Truth of Esports Journalism / Why ESPN Esports Failed - The Four Horsemen S3E8 ft Kevin Hitt

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024

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  • @Gibsomething
    @Gibsomething Місяць тому +102

    I listened to this fairly loosely while it was live and gave it a re-listen after it was released. I never thought the channel would become what it is now, but it’s my primary source of news and entertainment. It’s also the entire reason I quit every Riot game, after 12 years, as a direct result of the Vanguard 4 Horsemen show.
    LFN has become the only League/esports content that I can tolerate these days. Anytime y’all have a sponsor that I can use like Factor, HelloFresh, Raycon, etc. I try to support and I’m looking forward to doing so in the future.
    Great channel, great content, keep up the phenomenal work y’all.

    • @tuchsytp9874
      @tuchsytp9874 Місяць тому +6

      Same for me with regards to esports content and quitting LoL. Seems like all of LFNs work does move the needle even if it is only on a case by case basis currently

    • @NoradNoxtus
      @NoradNoxtus Місяць тому +2

      Forplay is my fav show. I always knew what it could be and was wanting for these 3 to talk movies since like 2015 and it has absolutely delivered.

  • @niklas5547
    @niklas5547 Місяць тому +47

    love kevin as a guest! Also i am quite drunk, at at a quick glance i thought you guys had Rick from Pawn Stars on the show

    • @milkman2266
      @milkman2266 Місяць тому +5

      Let me call my buddy he’s an expert on covering up corruption while pretending to be a journalist.
      *travis gafford walks in*

    • @cYAgent115
      @cYAgent115 15 днів тому

      @@milkman2266 "I'll offer you life changing money"

  • @WasntmeNed
    @WasntmeNed Місяць тому +39

    Big props to the guys for being professionals and just finishing the episode even with such big news hitting in the middle of it. Couldn't have been easy to keep focus, especially for Kevin and Montecristo.

    • @fahadtahir9942
      @fahadtahir9942 Місяць тому +7

      True, but it does kind of highlight how silly everything is. "So, the former President got shot. Let's go back to talking about video game writers!"

  • @Creamouz
    @Creamouz Місяць тому +79

    Already saw this, leaving a comment for engagement since I'm too poor to actually support you x)

  • @mw2nubcake
    @mw2nubcake Місяць тому +8

    56:25 my man said it perfectly. I watch Richard Lewis for Richard Lewis. Fucking legend.

  • @monado550
    @monado550 Місяць тому +7

    Silenced. Censored. Egged.
    No but in all seriousness, thank you for your work guys, we need to know these things happen

  • @oli41770
    @oli41770 Місяць тому +4

    The discussion on what drives the others of esport reporting was summed elegantly by Aaron Sorkin in the show The newsroom. "Stop trying to please your invisible friends and do the news well."

  • @dvsdnl
    @dvsdnl Місяць тому +5

    Reminiscing about ESPN making the leak show with live reactions had one of the greatest moments in leak history. They had convinced Caedral to be a nice guy and stream reactions to the leaks and they live broke that he was going to be a coach on a team. He didn’t move or speak for like 5 mins LOL. Apparently caedral had just had the convo with only 2 people earlier that week. Even his friends didn’t know it was an option. Sooooooo hilarious

  • @shartmartin3066
    @shartmartin3066 Місяць тому +5

    Thumbnail does go hard af

  • @nickfritz7938
    @nickfritz7938 Місяць тому +4

    Didn't it already come out that it wasn't Twitch employees having access to the whispers. But that someone reported the logs from 2017 three years later in 2020, very likely the minor he was talking to at that time? I would find it very strange for it to be twitch employees looking at the logs if it took 3 years to come up.

  • @MoonlitMarch
    @MoonlitMarch Місяць тому +7

    That thumbnail slaps

  • @nosuitsgiven
    @nosuitsgiven Місяць тому +2

    He was 100% right about journalism then, and it’s pretty much true now. If it was valuable, people would pay for it. Besides, why does anyone care about ESPN anyway? They are horrible are covering regular sports and if Disney didn’t own them, it wouldn’t exist.

  • @TheBigTuna100
    @TheBigTuna100 Місяць тому +2

    UA-cam needs more shows like this

  • @KyleIceFoulds
    @KyleIceFoulds Місяць тому +1

    Another really interesting episode about the madness that is the eSports / gaming world.

  • @luker.6967
    @luker.6967 Місяць тому +1

    Love the work you guys do. It is indispensable.

  • @mateogarcia6942
    @mateogarcia6942 Місяць тому

    This is one of the episodes to date

  • @nosuitsgiven
    @nosuitsgiven Місяць тому +3

    It’s because it’s unsustainable…. Streamers are next.

  • @c1ssalc
    @c1ssalc Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for another great episode.

  • @privettadam
    @privettadam Місяць тому +1

    best esports channel on UA-cam

  • @SauceAppleEater_2885
    @SauceAppleEater_2885 Місяць тому +22

    I expect Richard to talk a whole lot

  • @XxBlack0utX
    @XxBlack0utX Місяць тому +1

    for the algo, appreciate the content you guys

  • @Warxzin
    @Warxzin Місяць тому

    Nah this needs more traction. Commenting for engagement.

  • @samsharpe787
    @samsharpe787 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for the content

  • @willowz1378
    @willowz1378 Місяць тому +1

    great episode

  • @markmclaughlin3277
    @markmclaughlin3277 Місяць тому +1

    So how is journalism is esports?
    - you got about… 3 hours?

  • @shanemoore6182
    @shanemoore6182 Місяць тому +1

    Yes.

  • @Danieldani7
    @Danieldani7 Місяць тому +1

    Banger thumbnail

  • @MaxWorthAMillion
    @MaxWorthAMillion Місяць тому +1

    Great show

  • @deuxexmachimax
    @deuxexmachimax Місяць тому +1

    Last Free Nation indeed

  • @andreasklein5703
    @andreasklein5703 Місяць тому +2

    Go get em champs

  • @evolvedHE
    @evolvedHE Місяць тому

    Legendary content

  • @burgerflipper6969
    @burgerflipper6969 Місяць тому +1

    algorithm bump

  • @jasonnash4452
    @jasonnash4452 Місяць тому +1

    great video

  • @nubbinthemonkey
    @nubbinthemonkey Місяць тому

    Please tell me Kevin's blog is called 'Hitt Piece'

  • @sodaron
    @sodaron Місяць тому

    Eye opening episode gentlemen. Glad I've only worked for credit in Esports. I with GAM in 2022 Summer and Fall Worlds didn't received the jersey the owner said he sent me. I feel better after watching this episode. What credit working as an analyst/ scouting coaching in Esports earns year I have yet to see. ( Thank you Sodaron fans for viewing my content.) Glad I've only done esports work on the side. I assumed there wasn't actual money in Esports. I wanted to see T1 being rewarded their $600,00 or $500,000 prize pool but didn't see. I imagined this ceremony like the end of the original Stars Wars with the medals being handed out from Princesses Leia while Faker smiles at KkOma. 😢

  • @ObtecularPk
    @ObtecularPk Місяць тому +1

    Who is this Jake Lucky dude they keep mentioning?

    • @erlendode
      @erlendode Місяць тому +4

      He is a "drama monger" and has been frequently criticized for inaccurate reporting and damaging people's reputations unfairly. Despite this negative perception from some industry insiders, he has a significant following and some people consider him a good content creator who makes esports more accessible.

  • @suide3275
    @suide3275 Місяць тому +1

    Algo comment and great show

  • @SirRubixx
    @SirRubixx Місяць тому +1

    That thumbnail is a banger, but the “silenced, censored and subdued” should have been over their mouths

  • @TristanSune
    @TristanSune 22 дні тому

    1:10:40

  • @NavidDragon
    @NavidDragon Місяць тому

    Did Monte hop on TRT? Why does he sound like that here?

  • @CarlosCarlangas
    @CarlosCarlangas Місяць тому

    It's just easy to buy small spaces for the super rich to control. Very sad tbh.

    • @shanemoore6182
      @shanemoore6182 Місяць тому +1

      We didn't have to sell to those kind of buyers, but unfortunately that ship has sailed, got hit by a hurricane, and washed up on shore already.

  • @NaZtRdAmUs
    @NaZtRdAmUs Місяць тому +1

    Support Comment.

  • @desklamp4792
    @desklamp4792 Місяць тому

    Don't forget how hard Destiny and Dan went on Slasher for his dogshit reasoning for keeping the Dr. Disrespect story silent.

  • @wojeitalmu5179
    @wojeitalmu5179 Місяць тому

    DEFUND THE ADMINS

  • @conormcfire
    @conormcfire Місяць тому +5

    Was the trump shooting discussed,? I think it happened when this aired!

    • @NoradNoxtus
      @NoradNoxtus Місяць тому +3

      Yeah, they mentioned it. Crazy times

    • @prawtism
      @prawtism Місяць тому +1

      ​@@colewarburton3832 even if you don't agree, it's considered a historical moment by millions

    • @friday1764
      @friday1764 Місяць тому +1

      1:10:42

    • @wwjccsd
      @wwjccsd Місяць тому

      Meanwhile it took “news” articles hours to say shooting, even with real life journalism Richard has more integrity it seems; and if I recall he’s no fan of the man.

    • @ronlanders7354
      @ronlanders7354 Місяць тому

      They revealed who it was and affiliation.

  • @Verlisify
    @Verlisify Місяць тому

    Huge point that there are so few people that take the risk. I'm the only one in Pokemon doing the right thing and its so sad its like that everywhere online

  • @HeLLraiSa911
    @HeLLraiSa911 Місяць тому +1

    👍

  • @esy928
    @esy928 Місяць тому +1

    🐐🐐🐐

  • @wjx250
    @wjx250 Місяць тому +1

    👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @lukasgreen5582
    @lukasgreen5582 Місяць тому +1

    Comment

  • @Cheezperson
    @Cheezperson Місяць тому +1

    banger

  • @pharaohyami
    @pharaohyami Місяць тому

    W gene

  • @Cam_probably
    @Cam_probably Місяць тому

    Hitt spent way too much time praising everyone else in the call instead of discussing the actual topics. You can give credit without aggrandizing the entire show. Like what he had to say other than those moments though.

  • @guildii
    @guildii Місяць тому +5

    Would rather not listen to all the glazing from the guest. Had to tune out live but at least I can skip around now

  • @sNiPeR95PwnZ
    @sNiPeR95PwnZ Місяць тому

    I love you all but today i choose to be the boggymen. A) VPN are not an IT Security Feature. Period.
    B) Nobody wants to watch Netflix on his PC with the VPN Client running - Well actually it could take you about 15mins to configure your own vpn router, which enable you to sit on your Couch.
    C) i am not a viewer of Jake Lucky but why is he getting shit on, every RL Video ? Does his content take anything away from you ? Seems like a butthurt move

  • @NoradNoxtus
    @NoradNoxtus Місяць тому +2

    FIRST

  • @FMD-FullMetalDragon
    @FMD-FullMetalDragon Місяць тому +1

    Third.

  • @alexandersson1869
    @alexandersson1869 Місяць тому +2

    Thooorin considering himself a journalism with 0 gameknowledge is fine if he actually Did unobjective rostermove reports,bts of lcs or riot. But instead he wants to do ”top 10 x” ”worlds tier lists” ”worlds rewards” fucking joke... biggest circlejerk ever. Exhausting.

    • @shanemoore6182
      @shanemoore6182 Місяць тому +4

      He's not an expert in the League scene by any means, but to say zero knowledge is hyperbolic at best. At least call it as it is otherwise you sound like tiny little bitching.