@@soupbob5813 mechanically the best yes. It doesn’t make them the most valuable players. nAts is the most valuable player of Gambit because he is soooo far ahead of the competition on his role (apart from Suygetsu). Deffo from before or Chronicle might be more mechanically insane but he consistently brings more value to the team with the role he is on.
@@zest7812 idk if I would consider Nats "soooo far ahead of the competition on his role" anymore... I'd agree that at M3 last year when they won the way he was playing Viper and Cypher in a very "ratty" lurk-heavy way, hiding in his smokes and cages, etc that he was ahead of the curve and nobody else was playing those agents in the same way. But teams really picked up on that pretty quickly, even though they were a finalist at champs last year they almost became too reliant on the success of that playstyle with Nats and haven't been able to have nearly the same kind of success this year at all. They just finally started to look a little better at LCQ but still couldn't qualify..
@@zest7812 I agree but it’s a bad example lol. nAts is mechanically the best, more consistent in terms of hitting shots. Even plays chamber on fracture so you can see how he compares to chronicle
they talk about it, sideshow mention it, scream is clearly top 5 or top 6 but now we know why he is on top 9. Bren's list lmao. But tbf they know scream is there and know his consistency since the beginning of Valorant and his performance on Lan is consistently good, they just came short on their run in the tournament. Hoping they would make it this time
@@blicey9014 suygetsu was the tournament MVP and was still rated under F0rsakeN Jinggg and Yay, Paper Rex is my favourite team and i was super salty when they lost but i still think Suygetsu is underrated here
yay had the highest kd in Copenhagen Honestly impressed me more than Jingg All of PRX was on fire at Copenhagen but towards the end it was only yay doing the most stuff for Optic
I agree putting yay at no.1 he's by far the most consistent from the start of this year to now, and if he keeps the insane consistency YET again, nobody will have any arguments for his dominance. Yay may be the first player that we have in valorant is this good consistently not matter what meta shifts.
Emphasis on the again not the yet, yet has no meaning in this context. But no I don't agree. After that kind of a performance multiple times now from him, I think he has to move out of the number 1 spot especially if Derke and shao aren't the ones in top 2 and 3. I think it's stupid that they rank this list off of overall performance cause clearly that doesn't matter in this tournament. It just becomes a list of the most clippable players and not an actual prediction as to who will put up numbers this time around
@@343JustMe derke literally has worse performance than yay who was ",struggling" in day 1 of group stage". In playoffs his numbers is by far better than derke and Shao.
@@fortress7493 LOOK AT THAT now you're countering your original statement of how yay is no1 cause he's the most consistent cause if you're going off of that then Derke should be just the same as him. This is exactly what I mean, this list is biased towards certain players like yay who historically have been the best and not towards ppl like shao who might not have been absolutely nutty from the beginning of vct but was BY FAR the most valuable player in the tournament. Yay has slowly been doing less and less each tournament and this might be his falling in line with the rest of the players (I'm not saying he's bad or he's falling off, I'm just saying he's slowing down). If we're talking historical performance then the whole list should be that way and if we're talking latest performance then THE REST OF THE LIST SHOULD BE THAT WAY.
@@343JustMe derke didn't play during masters 1 and was no where near comparable to Jing, suygetsu, forsaken and shao in performance in masters 2. If yay is slowly doing less and less, then his playoff numbers in masters 2 wouldn't be rivalling his playoffs numbers in masters 1. No way does it remotely imply with his stats that he's falling off even though his playoff numbers were better than jing, forsaken, shao and suygetsu. This list is about so far and what has occured last tournament, and yay by slight margin is no.1.
@@343JustMe Shao had worse stats than yay regardless of whether you include group stage or not. Maybe you should check stats before spewing bullshit. In playoffs only sayf had better stats than yay. And if you consider the whole tournament only sayf, jing and cryo had better stats. So yay was still better than both shao and derke regardless of the criteria used.
Sideshow has inspired me. Cut out the middle man. Pass me your cash app details and I’ll cancel my member and send money directly to everyone except for him.
saw bren's list, saw cryo above ardiis, when ardiis literally helped his team win and perfomed similar while playing 5x the no of rounds xset played. ardiis and cryo should've been swapped
I fucking lost it when finger was the #1 ranked player. Like actually great job Kurt that’s one of the funniest things to ever happen on plat chat for sure
I might eat my words, but I just do not understand the EDG hype at all. Zero experience, beat a bunch of teams during EALCQ who would get utterly slammed by 95% of EU/NA T1.
Just If... zeta beat northeption in order to make it Copenhagen we would have a different winner. Because zeta would have beaten a fpx with a sub and drx too and they would have gotten grouped.
Mindfreak over Jamppi... let that settle in, lmao. Jamppi is easily a top 10 player, what on god's green earth is going on with these lists! Bren... idk, bro. More vod watching for you, I think.
Idk why but I almost always have like Sideshow and Balla's analysis' the most even back to OWL days.. I really like how Balla approached his list especially though and took into consideration the players who get entire strategies and agent compositions built around them with all the teams utility poured into making them successful. It's something I really consider too when thinking about the top players and where I'd rank them. That and consistency, like I think that Optic is 1 of the most well-rounded teams other than FPX. (also idk how Mimi had Jingg twice and DIDN'T have Suygetsu at all even in her top 20!?) I think those considerations are the reason why I rank FPX as a team and their players so highly.. even they don't necessarily have that #1 carry player who gets all the utility and support that other teams give to their stars, they're still making insane plays and like we saw at Copenhagen every single player on FPX have maps where they absolutely dominated! Even Ange1 after inting in groups had some crazy performances on some maps of the playoff series, even being the top ACS in the server on some maps late in the tournament. I'm a bit biased because I've been a fan of FPX since the FPX vs G2 era when Ardiis was on G2 and they were the #1 team in EU and FPX was always #2 to them... and to see them come full circle is great because they always seemed like they were just lacking that last piece of the puzzle (especially back in the Jett OP era not having a straight up duelist-only player). I think it'll be something for FPX to prove repeatability at Champions, but with their full roster and confidence from Copenhagen I think they'll go far again. I don't see Ange1 or D00mbros getting complacent after not being able to go to Reykjavik after securing the #1 EMEA seed in DOMINANT fashion for Masters 1, although they will have a massive target on their back. I think the international audience too, like NA, LATAM & APAC fans don't realize how dominantly FPX stomped Fnatic and everyone else at the Masters 1 qualifying.. I mean they beat Fnatic 3-0 with a 13-0 on Split (FNC had never been 13-0d b4 that or since)... Also when I think of FPX's final few series at Copenhagen, I don't think they even did anything that crazy or mind-blowing strategy-wise.. it seemed to me at least that their solid fundamentals were the best part about their performance... like always having someone to trade for them peeking in 2s vs PRX peeking 1 at a time, saving utility for mid-late round, and just holding their positions being patient even when pressured heavily with utility, etc were some of the biggest keys to their success. Then you add in the fact that they have 5 players who at any time can be the top fragger hitting every shot & finishing every clutch, it means they also don't have to spend a lot of early round utility on just supporting that 1 star player to get the first blood every round.. when you consider these things their chances of repeatability drastically go up imo (maybe not winning the whole thing but at least being a top contender like I think top 4 is reasonable).. That being said, I agree with what Ange1 said at Copenhagen that any of the teams attending these LAN events can beat anyone else on the right day in the right circumstances. The differences really are so small at times, like the difference between PRX vs FPX came down to small niche fundamentals imo bc PRX had the advantage strategy-wise on some maps and FPX on others, and the last map 5 was the closest of them all... but those small little things are what could be the difference, imo it was the difference-maker for FPX in that last map where the teams were pretty even when it came to strategy and execution.. but ALL the teams attending champs should be someone to look out for. Honestly anyone could win, I wouldn't be surprised if another team came out of nowhere to win their 1st International LAN at Champs
Top 5 phantoms, egg can argue all he wants: 1. Oni 2. Recon (Asuna and bang convinced me) 3. Prime 4. Ion 5. BlastX/Champions Honorable mentions are like protocol, singularity, reaver and comic book is NOT even close imo.
wait wyatt always been have North american copium ! even fpx and prx beat optic and shitt on them he have marved and yay over all prx and fpx player i mean hes rankings doesnt makes sense at all ! and because of his list jingg is in no.2 on this list because he put jingg on 8 aspas on 2nd i mean wtf ! no mindfreak in top 10 too !
and one thing too optic also made it to top 3 by beating one north american team who they played all the time and drx who they played at same time on this tournaments and as soon as they played against title contender teams they got rolled every time ! and they got rolled still all of platchat thinking that in top 20 players both main optic players are better than all of the finalist of previous tournament i mean this is pure copium , this guys are the one who said by thier own mouth that " hnm forsaken is diffing yay rn , ohh ardiis is shitting on optic rn , ohh shao is just better " and they are the one too who puts marved and yay over forsaken , jingg , suygetsu , shao ardiis i mean WTF !
@@nationsbot who said that ? This is not consistency list ! This is top 10 players power ranking list ! And if ranking player for current tournament you obviously put players current form from the previous tournament and performance !
@@d554dhameliyaom2 players like yay have been consistent for a long time so you can count on them to bounce back from a bad tournament. If anything, if a player has a better then average tournament at Copenhagen, they are less likely to do as well at Istanbul. Since this list is going into Istanbul and not a report card of Copenhagen you need to look at all of the past games.
@@d554dhameliyaom2 u have to take consistency into account, otherwise it's literally impossible to accurately rank players. At this point in time we can't really put fpx players above yay cause we don't know if they're gonna show the same level of dominance that they did in copenhagen. Now in the case of prx players, sure they've consistently shown that they can perform on a top level, but they haven't been able to match yay stats wise.
@@amritaddanki5627 Shao 1v9d every single game at copenhagen until losers bracket where they got SUYGETSU but even then he still was carrying his team alongside the guy I heckin love marved that guy is from the same country as me and I watch his streams but I would only feel comfortable moving him above ardiis
@@nationsbot and what about suygetsu who half the games had only around 7 really impactful rounds throughout all the maps? People are saying he was the best player in Copenhagen even though the biggest round he had was the last one against guild where had he not done what he did fpx would've been eliminated. Shao was the guy that closed out multiple rounds that should've been and would've been impossible for pretty much anyone else in this tournament. Some rounds his teammates didn't even do anything and had all died yet he still managed to get them the round. Clutching is by far the most impact you can bring to a round simply because winning the most amount of rounds is the goal of the game.
@@343JustMe yeah i agree shao did great in copenhagen, but he hasn't really had enough games to prove that he's one of the best, if he can stay consistent in istanbul then maybe he can be argued to be in the top 3.
@@nationsbot that's because you've never watched fpx bruh, shao has been great for a really long time but this performance is something else out of him. It was like Derke when he first went to LAN. He became something different after his first LAN
@@343JustMe it is because of lan performance that is it. This is Fpx first lan. The other players their have data from different lan performances. So now you could see their consistency. Even just look at scream, scream never underperforms on Lan, he might even be the best player if they beat acend on semis and beat gambit on the grand finals last champions. They always come short but scream's performance is always on point with different agents he ever used. You people want to put all fpx players on top with limited basis on their lan performance, let us see this champions if they still performing that well then you could argue your point
Can someone explain to me how Keznit and Mazino(2 players that dont even play chamber) are almost not on the list but there are like 3 players from LOUD? lol I mean all LOUD has accomplish has been the second place on masters but the rest has only been against competition within Brazil, they have never beaten Kru, and Mazino has been so consistent this whole year clutching match after match with freaking SAGE!!! I dont know this fixation with LOUD, dont get me wrong Aspas is amazing but Saadhak and Less?????
@@magmoz565 prx didn't play in groups. so can't use yay's group stats to compare him to a player that didn't play in groups. Also groups are actually considered easier which is another reason it wouldn't be included. Yay also had insane performances in 4 different lans regardless of his teams performance. No other player has done that.
@@kau4u it’s a tier list of individual players… if he plays insane individually you won’t put him top 10? Bro…? If he plays insane individually he’s top 10. It’s not a team tier list
@@jelly556 sure it’s an individual tier list but at the end of the day teams win trophies not players. Cryo and zekken played insane last master but team fell short, hence it’s the norm to rank them 15-20. Which is completely fair and just.
-yay +sushiboys, i want to eat raw fish
Agreed
with boys. or men. preferably men
@@usforonce nah u eat with your boys
Bren: Calls Sideshow a Stat Steven
Also Bren: 9 out of top 10 players are duelist/chamber players
teams generally put their best players on chamber or duelist
@@soupbob5813 if youre strictly talking about mechanics, absolutely. that doesn’t mean they’re the best or most valuable on the team.
@@soupbob5813 mechanically the best yes. It doesn’t make them the most valuable players. nAts is the most valuable player of Gambit because he is soooo far ahead of the competition on his role (apart from Suygetsu). Deffo from before or Chronicle might be more mechanically insane but he consistently brings more value to the team with the role he is on.
@@zest7812 idk if I would consider Nats "soooo far ahead of the competition on his role" anymore... I'd agree that at M3 last year when they won the way he was playing Viper and Cypher in a very "ratty" lurk-heavy way, hiding in his smokes and cages, etc that he was ahead of the curve and nobody else was playing those agents in the same way. But teams really picked up on that pretty quickly, even though they were a finalist at champs last year they almost became too reliant on the success of that playstyle with Nats and haven't been able to have nearly the same kind of success this year at all. They just finally started to look a little better at LCQ but still couldn't qualify..
@@zest7812 I agree but it’s a bad example lol. nAts is mechanically the best, more consistent in terms of hitting shots. Even plays chamber on fracture so you can see how he compares to chronicle
how did they not talk about Bren having Scream at 18 and CRYOCELLS AT 5?!
they talk about it, sideshow mention it, scream is clearly top 5 or top 6 but now we know why he is on top 9. Bren's list lmao. But tbf they know scream is there and know his consistency since the beginning of Valorant and his performance on Lan is consistently good, they just came short on their run in the tournament. Hoping they would make it this time
Cryo is actually so mid compared to everyone else
@@kksprstn6186 Can't be top 5 if Liquid get bounced in straight sets to EDG. #LEVIATANHYPE
Bren must be seeing the future
Xset beating World champions while TL are struggling
@@bulllane5568bro didn't realise how wrong he was
"it's about time you impressed someone" - Straight fire from Wyatt
Shoutout to Wyatt for always looking out for the audio listeners. The Plat Chat Overwatch guys don’t give a fuck about the audio listeners lmao
Also wtf happened to Vivo Keyd they just dropped off the map after the Breeze Cam incident
They literally just tilted for a year, probably still blame starxo for not making any event in 2022
@@rambujam lmfaoooo
Brazil has horrible mentals
@@only1kingz hm
Top 20 list
Add: Edward
Remove: Everybody else
Thank you Bren. I agree with you again, Kang Squared is getting a nuke every game at Champions.
d4v4i, mindfreak and suygetsu underrated as hell
suygetsu is not underrated lmao
It's so annoying seeing them putting player that doesn't even play any international events at all this year over mindfreak d4v41, no offense
@@blicey9014 suygetsu was the tournament MVP and was still rated under F0rsakeN Jinggg and Yay, Paper Rex is my favourite team and i was super salty when they lost but i still think Suygetsu is underrated here
@@haiseee3566 cause we don't know if he can keep that level of play consistently.
disappointed mimi didnt put kangkang at #1, what a doubter smh
Jinggg higher than yay nowadays, but it could change, he's still El Diablo
yay had the highest kd in Copenhagen
Honestly impressed me more than Jingg
All of PRX was on fire at Copenhagen but towards the end it was only yay doing the most stuff for Optic
No one …
Absolutely no one: …
Bren: I had him lower
I agree putting yay at no.1
he's by far the most consistent from the start of this year to now, and if he keeps the insane consistency YET again, nobody will have any arguments for his dominance. Yay may be the first player that we have in valorant is this good consistently not matter what meta shifts.
Emphasis on the again not the yet, yet has no meaning in this context.
But no I don't agree. After that kind of a performance multiple times now from him, I think he has to move out of the number 1 spot especially if Derke and shao aren't the ones in top 2 and 3. I think it's stupid that they rank this list off of overall performance cause clearly that doesn't matter in this tournament. It just becomes a list of the most clippable players and not an actual prediction as to who will put up numbers this time around
@@343JustMe derke literally has worse performance than yay who was ",struggling" in day 1 of group stage". In playoffs his numbers is by far better than derke and Shao.
@@fortress7493 LOOK AT THAT now you're countering your original statement of how yay is no1 cause he's the most consistent cause if you're going off of that then Derke should be just the same as him. This is exactly what I mean, this list is biased towards certain players like yay who historically have been the best and not towards ppl like shao who might not have been absolutely nutty from the beginning of vct but was BY FAR the most valuable player in the tournament. Yay has slowly been doing less and less each tournament and this might be his falling in line with the rest of the players (I'm not saying he's bad or he's falling off, I'm just saying he's slowing down). If we're talking historical performance then the whole list should be that way and if we're talking latest performance then THE REST OF THE LIST SHOULD BE THAT WAY.
@@343JustMe derke didn't play during masters 1 and was no where near comparable to Jing, suygetsu, forsaken and shao in performance in masters 2.
If yay is slowly doing less and less, then his playoff numbers in masters 2 wouldn't be rivalling his playoffs numbers in masters 1.
No way does it remotely imply with his stats that he's falling off even though his playoff numbers were better than jing, forsaken, shao and suygetsu.
This list is about so far and what has occured last tournament, and yay by slight margin is no.1.
@@343JustMe Shao had worse stats than yay regardless of whether you include group stage or not. Maybe you should check stats before spewing bullshit.
In playoffs only sayf had better stats than yay. And if you consider the whole tournament only sayf, jing and cryo had better stats.
So yay was still better than both shao and derke regardless of the criteria used.
Sideshow has inspired me. Cut out the middle man. Pass me your cash app details and I’ll cancel my member and send money directly to everyone except for him.
LMAO I love Bren but his list is so questionable
It is absurd.
Unite, my fellow Plat-earthers!
No d4v4i in any of the lists
Me: I'm coming to get u all
Players that don't even touch any international events this year over him is criminal
saw bren's list, saw cryo above ardiis, when ardiis literally helped his team win and perfomed similar while playing 5x the no of rounds xset played. ardiis and cryo should've been swapped
"I'm not an influencer, people mock me for my taste" loooool Sideshow 🤣🤣🤣
i am almost certain mimi meant for one of those two jinggg slots to be suygetsu
59:57 balla is just the best, exactly what I was thinking. He is definitely the best controller, but the gap isn't big
My top 21 shout is 100% Bang. He’s insane and imo one of the best players in the world especially in terms of agent flexibility
comic book skin is 100% the best one
The knife is $53
Stares at my butterfly knife on CSGO that cost me $1500
Forgot about Aspas
They rlly put scream at 9th …
7:38 ayo Wyatt just murdered the egg
Waiting for the live post champions
Jinggg #1
I fucking lost it when finger was the #1 ranked player. Like actually great job Kurt that’s one of the funniest things to ever happen on plat chat for sure
remember when balla thought the top 3 of east asia lcq would be all Japanese teams lol
My fav: 7:32 Its about time you impress someone
I could see Zeta Division doing this Champions what Fnatic did last Champions
Completely forgot about LOUD and... Yeah you guys already know what happened
I might eat my words, but I just do not understand the EDG hype at all. Zero experience, beat a bunch of teams during EALCQ who would get utterly slammed by 95% of EU/NA T1.
Just If... zeta beat northeption in order to make it Copenhagen we would have a different winner. Because zeta would have beaten a fpx with a sub and drx too and they would have gotten grouped.
So ironically, Zeta could make PRX win Copenhagen, after taking them out in Reykjavik
No. Zeta ain't winning against DRX in groups. No asian team has won against DRX in groups. Playoffs DRX and group stage are two different entities.
We might've gotten an Optic and Prx rematch if Zeta made it to top 3 again
But i doubt they'd make it higher than top 8
cannot believe the NA bias
benkai easily no1
@@mikegriffiths1546 ratio
Next Time "TOP 20 players NOT going to champions"
Funny ranking, the champion has no first place.
TL whit nats nivere jamppi soulcas and screm 🤯
Yus I am lover of plat valorant Chat pl0x let me be port of the Plantation
Tacolilla for Top 21 Player
honestly the whole leviathan team kinda slept on for how they did at Copenhagen. Taco totally could be argued on this list.
imagine C9 pick up M3C, wont be the first time they were to do that, they already did that for Gambit CS
All bold predictions turned into a PlatChat guaranteed, so now, none of those teams will get to the finals 🧐
Still can’t believe M3C isn’t going to Istanbul such a shame😢
Just unlucky for them! They really fighted and im proud of them anyways . During this war....
Mindfreak over Jamppi... let that settle in, lmao. Jamppi is easily a top 10 player, what on god's green earth is going on with these lists! Bren... idk, bro. More vod watching for you, I think.
Wydm mindfreak was so cracked in Copenhagen.
@@muhammadazrafbinmohdakmam4772 but he's not the player Jamppi is overall, imo.
Where is boaster?
Damn the Will shoutout to be right
Idk why but I almost always have like Sideshow and Balla's analysis' the most even back to OWL days.. I really like how Balla approached his list especially though and took into consideration the players who get entire strategies and agent compositions built around them with all the teams utility poured into making them successful. It's something I really consider too when thinking about the top players and where I'd rank them. That and consistency, like I think that Optic is 1 of the most well-rounded teams other than FPX. (also idk how Mimi had Jingg twice and DIDN'T have Suygetsu at all even in her top 20!?)
I think those considerations are the reason why I rank FPX as a team and their players so highly.. even they don't necessarily have that #1 carry player who gets all the utility and support that other teams give to their stars, they're still making insane plays and like we saw at Copenhagen every single player on FPX have maps where they absolutely dominated! Even Ange1 after inting in groups had some crazy performances on some maps of the playoff series, even being the top ACS in the server on some maps late in the tournament. I'm a bit biased because I've been a fan of FPX since the FPX vs G2 era when Ardiis was on G2 and they were the #1 team in EU and FPX was always #2 to them... and to see them come full circle is great because they always seemed like they were just lacking that last piece of the puzzle (especially back in the Jett OP era not having a straight up duelist-only player). I think it'll be something for FPX to prove repeatability at Champions, but with their full roster and confidence from Copenhagen I think they'll go far again. I don't see Ange1 or D00mbros getting complacent after not being able to go to Reykjavik after securing the #1 EMEA seed in DOMINANT fashion for Masters 1, although they will have a massive target on their back. I think the international audience too, like NA, LATAM & APAC fans don't realize how dominantly FPX stomped Fnatic and everyone else at the Masters 1 qualifying.. I mean they beat Fnatic 3-0 with a 13-0 on Split (FNC had never been 13-0d b4 that or since)...
Also when I think of FPX's final few series at Copenhagen, I don't think they even did anything that crazy or mind-blowing strategy-wise.. it seemed to me at least that their solid fundamentals were the best part about their performance... like always having someone to trade for them peeking in 2s vs PRX peeking 1 at a time, saving utility for mid-late round, and just holding their positions being patient even when pressured heavily with utility, etc were some of the biggest keys to their success. Then you add in the fact that they have 5 players who at any time can be the top fragger hitting every shot & finishing every clutch, it means they also don't have to spend a lot of early round utility on just supporting that 1 star player to get the first blood every round.. when you consider these things their chances of repeatability drastically go up imo (maybe not winning the whole thing but at least being a top contender like I think top 4 is reasonable).. That being said, I agree with what Ange1 said at Copenhagen that any of the teams attending these LAN events can beat anyone else on the right day in the right circumstances. The differences really are so small at times, like the difference between PRX vs FPX came down to small niche fundamentals imo bc PRX had the advantage strategy-wise on some maps and FPX on others, and the last map 5 was the closest of them all... but those small little things are what could be the difference, imo it was the difference-maker for FPX in that last map where the teams were pretty even when it came to strategy and execution.. but ALL the teams attending champs should be someone to look out for. Honestly anyone could win, I wouldn't be surprised if another team came out of nowhere to win their 1st International LAN at Champs
umm id put tenz at 1 and take yay off because tenz has better strim
Excuse me,this is Champions,pls talk about the qualified teams.
loud top 1 just let's go
EU Players ResidentSleeper
didnt expect that number 1 player .. definitely deserves the spot
Yay at #1 are you serious lmao
i just want a XERXIA deep run
Mimi forgot Suygetsu I think lol
where's Loud?
Y’all which episode was that agent tier list again?
Taco needs to be here
Yay still the best.
Do a episode drunk and call it silverchat
Hiko to #1. Removing Yay
Top 5 phantoms, egg can argue all he wants:
1. Oni
2. Recon (Asuna and bang convinced me)
3. Prime
4. Ion
5. BlastX/Champions
Honorable mentions are like protocol, singularity, reaver and comic book is NOT even close imo.
derrek robbed
aspas 11?
0:01 thats one fresh egg
Yasssss it’s Platchat Wednesday:))))))
Did Bren get new ink 😎
Why no live chat
wyatt is a based optic fan yay defender he’s the only one i can trust
we got to stick together
@@cjdonato1455 fr
@@cjdonato1455 fr
They got sen nats
Keznit had covid and somehow dumpstered on loud players, zekken did all right but keznit in top 20 for zekken
wait wyatt always been have North american copium ! even fpx and prx beat optic and shitt on them he have marved and yay over all prx and fpx player i mean hes rankings doesnt makes sense at all ! and because of his list jingg is in no.2 on this list because he put jingg on 8 aspas on 2nd i mean wtf ! no mindfreak in top 10 too !
and one thing too optic also made it to top 3 by beating one north american team who they played all the time and drx who they played at same time on this tournaments and as soon as they played against title contender teams they got rolled every time ! and they got rolled still all of platchat thinking that in top 20 players both main optic players are better than all of the finalist of previous tournament i mean this is pure copium , this guys are the one who said by thier own mouth that " hnm forsaken is diffing yay rn , ohh ardiis is shitting on optic rn , ohh shao is just better " and they are the one too who puts marved and yay over forsaken , jingg , suygetsu , shao ardiis i mean WTF !
@@d554dhameliyaom2 cause the list is not based on copenhagen results, its all time.
@@nationsbot who said that ? This is not consistency list ! This is top 10 players power ranking list ! And if ranking player for current tournament you obviously put players current form from the previous tournament and performance !
@@d554dhameliyaom2 players like yay have been consistent for a long time so you can count on them to bounce back from a bad tournament. If anything, if a player has a better then average tournament at Copenhagen, they are less likely to do as well at Istanbul. Since this list is going into Istanbul and not a report card of Copenhagen you need to look at all of the past games.
@@d554dhameliyaom2 u have to take consistency into account, otherwise it's literally impossible to accurately rank players. At this point in time we can't really put fpx players above yay cause we don't know if they're gonna show the same level of dominance that they did in copenhagen. Now in the case of prx players, sure they've consistently shown that they can perform on a top level, but they haven't been able to match yay stats wise.
Remove Yay from the 1 spot and put Balla instead because of being top tier player, igl and caster and dad duty; plus drip.
1. Yay 2. SUYGETSU 3. Shao 4. Jingg 5. f0rsaken 6. ardiis 7. Marved IMO from a canadian all region enjoyer
Shao is not better than marved or ardiis
@@amritaddanki5627 Shao 1v9d every single game at copenhagen until losers bracket where they got SUYGETSU but even then he still was carrying his team alongside the guy
I heckin love marved that guy is from the same country as me and I watch his streams but I would only feel comfortable moving him above ardiis
@@dipn6243 bro its their first lan, they haven't proven that they can keep that level of play yet.
Shao was CRIMINALLY LOW on this list. This is just stupid, he deserves top 3 WITHOUT A DOUBT.
Ur overrating shao wayyyy too much
@@nationsbot and what about suygetsu who half the games had only around 7 really impactful rounds throughout all the maps? People are saying he was the best player in Copenhagen even though the biggest round he had was the last one against guild where had he not done what he did fpx would've been eliminated. Shao was the guy that closed out multiple rounds that should've been and would've been impossible for pretty much anyone else in this tournament. Some rounds his teammates didn't even do anything and had all died yet he still managed to get them the round. Clutching is by far the most impact you can bring to a round simply because winning the most amount of rounds is the goal of the game.
@@343JustMe yeah i agree shao did great in copenhagen, but he hasn't really had enough games to prove that he's one of the best, if he can stay consistent in istanbul then maybe he can be argued to be in the top 3.
@@nationsbot that's because you've never watched fpx bruh, shao has been great for a really long time but this performance is something else out of him. It was like Derke when he first went to LAN. He became something different after his first LAN
@@343JustMe it is because of lan performance that is it. This is Fpx first lan. The other players their have data from different lan performances. So now you could see their consistency. Even just look at scream, scream never underperforms on Lan, he might even be the best player if they beat acend on semis and beat gambit on the grand finals last champions. They always come short but scream's performance is always on point with different agents he ever used. You people want to put all fpx players on top with limited basis on their lan performance, let us see this champions if they still performing that well then you could argue your point
Pancada robbed
Add asuna, take out any of numbers 5 and up
Wtf Shao top 7 wtf
Can someone explain to me how Keznit and Mazino(2 players that dont even play chamber) are almost not on the list but there are like 3 players from LOUD? lol I mean all LOUD has accomplish has been the second place on masters but the rest has only been against competition within Brazil, they have never beaten Kru, and Mazino has been so consistent this whole year clutching match after match with freaking SAGE!!! I dont know this fixation with LOUD, dont get me wrong Aspas is amazing but Saadhak and Less?????
Reading this 3 weeks later is funny LOL
Aged like milk, eh
Less > krü
Jing #1
Yay #2
Based on Copenhagen results
Yay had better stats than Jinggg and his team was getting battered, how do you beat a team to a pulp and still can’t be the best player in the series?
Yay had a higher rating than jing in copenhagen playoffs
What about whole fpx team🤣🤣
@@torrent9090 in playoffs. But he was doing pretty poorly in groups.
@@magmoz565 prx didn't play in groups. so can't use yay's group stats to compare him to a player that didn't play in groups.
Also groups are actually considered easier which is another reason it wouldn't be included.
Yay also had insane performances in 4 different lans regardless of his teams performance. No other player has done that.
Asuna at 19 is criminal. Wow. My boy is top 5.
For champions? Hell no, even if he plays insane individually at champions it’s generous to put him top 10
@@kau4u it’s a tier list of individual players… if he plays insane individually you won’t put him top 10? Bro…? If he plays insane individually he’s top 10. It’s not a team tier list
@@jelly556 sure it’s an individual tier list but at the end of the day teams win trophies not players. Cryo and zekken played insane last master but team fell short, hence it’s the norm to rank them 15-20. Which is completely fair and just.
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Skin is such an L you guys are trolling. It's just prime + Tigris, - daddy brim