Why Chinese Gibson Les Pauls can be good and be bad

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  • @razor961000
    @razor961000 3 роки тому +32

    Sick of people telling me i shouldnt buy these guitars ,i have bought 3 now and i love them

    • @puppycat65481
      @puppycat65481 3 роки тому +11

      absolutely......I love mine too. What do they expect for 300, an overpriced 3500 dollar guitar?

    • @raheefnashawati750
      @raheefnashawati750 2 роки тому +1

      do you have link to the best guitar you bought? im trying to buy one myself.

    • @puppycat65481
      @puppycat65481 2 роки тому +2

      You can buy one at Ali Express from one of the sellers, but be prepared to wait a long time, and they usually do need a lot of work to make them nice.

    • @208Royale
      @208Royale 2 роки тому +5

      I love all of mine ,
      brother and I work for a shop that sells Gibsons lol Gibson,s pricing is insane and unreal

    • @bigstick5278
      @bigstick5278 2 роки тому +2

      @@puppycat65481 ::: Do some research on Gibson Les Paul's some have many hidden secrets.
      I had a $90.00 (sort of) LPJR SX from RONDO that after installing $150.00 worth of hardware and pickups totally sang like a bird was my recording guitar.
      I wish I could have saved that glued on neck for reference, it fit my hand like a glove.
      There is no good or bad just ones that don't corporate and don't want to be a good guitar, to be banished to the land of Misfit toys..
      Being I'm a Lefty the bar rises..

  • @jazzdrumguy5044
    @jazzdrumguy5044 10 місяців тому

    I am a Fender guy (USA, MIM and Squiers). The Chibson is probably 1 step below an Epiphone and a lot of what you say can be fixed. Mine looks killer, doesn't have those issues and I am only looking to upgrade electronics/pups, and I think it will play well. As a Fender guy, it's the perfect LP for me. I really wish you would have A/B'ed these although it would be no comparison!

  • @carltongadgettmannprice352
    @carltongadgettmannprice352 2 роки тому +2

    I have received purchased 4 Ledux guitars from China. 3 of them are Firebird copies and the 4th one is a Telebird. I'm very impressed with the guitars and they all have quality control stickers on them. They are all made in China but they all are shipped from a Warehouse in California with 30 day return policy. I personally wouldn't trust a guitar shipped directly from China because many problems could possibly arise but when shipped from the USA Warehouse, more than likely the USA Warehouse has inspected the guitar before accepting or rejecting it into it's inventory.

  • @rodnyg7952
    @rodnyg7952 Рік тому +6

    chibsons can really never be good, but they can occasionally be different degrees of bad. Saying it's a "good guitar for the money" is nothing but an excuse to rationalize the cost. Any guitar made with poor alignment for hardware (bridge & tailpiece) results in much less than a "good guitar". Poor bridge positioning will cause intonation issues, saddle buzzing, or both. You can try raising the bridge, but that will just cause uncomfortable string height -- a good guitar for hanging on a wall

  • @angeloarimborgo6352
    @angeloarimborgo6352 Рік тому +1

    I was lucky enough to find one that had the serial number JP2 158 (🤔) at a pawn shop that played really well. After the upgrades it has become my main guitar for certain rock gigs.

  • @Edward1312
    @Edward1312 3 роки тому +3

    Its known as a heal joint at the base of the neck, its know as a scarfe joint where the neck joins the headstock.

    • @evodgamehunter4290
      @evodgamehunter4290 2 роки тому

      i know there is a lot wrong with this review

    • @k9er233
      @k9er233 Рік тому +1

      Tenon joint at the body to neck.

    • @kennycube5126
      @kennycube5126 11 місяців тому +1

      It's not a joint. It's just an extra piece of wood glued on to the heel. Sometime referred to as a heel block😀

  • @unclefoiley819
    @unclefoiley819 3 роки тому +6

    Life's too short to play firewood.

  • @bigkm1974
    @bigkm1974 4 роки тому +6

    Well i have two of them one is a honeyburst other is eds1275 , they both needed a few things done to them but now im very happy with them both, true they made not be gibson quality but for a little xtra work and money they can be made into decent guitars

    • @brianherres8992
      @brianherres8992  4 роки тому +1

      Definitely just need to be careful because there is also alot of junk being produced over there.

  • @Joshcheyka
    @Joshcheyka 3 роки тому +6

    even Gibson and Epiphone bridges are cocked...look it up! thats a design feature.

    • @brianherres8992
      @brianherres8992  2 роки тому

      Cocked yes but offset to center over the saddles No!

  • @doctorskull8197
    @doctorskull8197 2 роки тому +4

    I have a Chibson Les Paul. Paid $277 included hard case. Installed two real Gibson Humbuckers for an additional $150. As far as I can tell, it’s an awesome instrument. Perfect for my Sex Pistols wanna-be band😎🔥🎸

    • @chief6749
      @chief6749 10 місяців тому

      I recently got a Chibson and after I upgraded the electronics and a few adjustments ( thanks to a friend of mine) it’s a great guitar. I must’ve gotten lucky lol
      It’s true what they say if you’re happy with it then that’s all that really matters.

  • @snap-off5383
    @snap-off5383 3 роки тому +4

    That 2nd one looks more like a "genuine gibson" - quality wise.

  • @guitarandmore69
    @guitarandmore69 2 роки тому +3

    There are better alternatives if you don't care about the headstock or the name on it. Firefly, Grote, Wolf, Oscar Schmitt, Epiphone etc etc. You'll get better quality without the worry of confiscation. And you'll likely get your guitar sooner, without the worry of getting burned. I'm saying this as someone who has a Chibson and have considered getting another...

  • @davyxxx9761
    @davyxxx9761 2 роки тому +1

    There is a seller on Aliexpress, only custom builds,i have 3real gibsons, and i want to see how good he Can build, so i ordered, a flying v custom Ebony,
    he built it according to my orders and specifications, with official measurements, apart from the Seymour sh-5 pickups, and the gotoh bridge, that i replaced, I was amazed.😉
    And i received it with a Bone nut

  • @2dazetake
    @2dazetake Рік тому +2

    Everything that was terrible is fixable, the husk is worth it, if you know want your doing, all of the problems are fun to fix, great guitar to practice your skills,fret leveling,new nut, new tuners all so easy to do once you learn, and there are hundreds of videos to help, you can't expect a 200 dollar guitar to be perfect, as long as the neck is straight, and the truss rod works,I could care less about, these minor problems, I would go for the relic one they are supposed to have a nitro finish,and seem to be better set out of the box, yes get one, or you can always get a new greenie Gibson LP I think they want 20 thousand for one.

  • @qiuye420
    @qiuye420 6 місяців тому

    感谢分享视频,感谢你客观的评价😄

  • @johnpike5836
    @johnpike5836 Рік тому

    should WE Follow Your Example or Your Advice ?

  • @toxicmartoc
    @toxicmartoc 2 роки тому

    A very nice wall ornament though

  • @denboe2894
    @denboe2894 2 роки тому +1

    No, I am not staying away from that stuff cause it is a inexpensive Gibson. What happens though when those gits sneak onto the used market. The used market on all might be cut in half.

  • @madfdawg52
    @madfdawg52 3 роки тому +6

    did you expect a Gibson?

  • @marcraygun6290
    @marcraygun6290 2 роки тому +2

    I agree with alot of people many more legitimate alternatives at this price , chickenbacker on the other hand your options are that or 2500 grand rickenbacker

  • @salvatoredaniele8020
    @salvatoredaniele8020 3 роки тому +2

    You’re rolling the dice with these things. I purchased(and don’t ask me why) 7 since 2010. 2 were complete bombs that I discarded. 3 were playable but uninspiring, and the other two were actually pretty good. How many did I keep? None. I have another one coming from Ali Express. Yes, still hoping to get a freak one that plays great. Yes, I am insane.

    • @levijessegonzalez3629
      @levijessegonzalez3629 3 роки тому +1

      which seller is the best have you found?

    • @brianherres8992
      @brianherres8992  2 роки тому +2

      Ijust got 1 a couple months ago thats awesome :) Joe Bonamassa Lazarus copy. i had to do very little work to get it right. Its really damn near perfect and i love it.

    • @EbonyPope
      @EbonyPope 2 роки тому +1

      @@brianherres8992 Which seller did you buy it from? Could you tell me? Thanks in advance.

    • @BakedNConfused
      @BakedNConfused Рік тому

      And were you disappointed yet again ?

    • @salvatoredaniele8020
      @salvatoredaniele8020 Рік тому +1

      I received two more. My wish came true. Both are outstanding. I think the Chinese have finally got it.

  • @briansmythe3219
    @briansmythe3219 4 роки тому +2

    you could glue wooden dowels in those Crocked bridge posts , And redrill them Wouldn"t be hard , Then they would be nice and straight

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 4 роки тому +1

      Or, just file the stop bar tailpiece slots enough to re-center it while placing a small shim on the opposite lug.
      You wouldn't be able to see the work except when changing strings.

  • @sir.dave_
    @sir.dave_ 4 роки тому +2

    How much did It cost the relicing process with nitro all in? Great video!

  • @jeremyjohnson2551
    @jeremyjohnson2551 Рік тому

    What do you mean the Chinese bridge is all backwards?

  • @OkieOrganix
    @OkieOrganix Рік тому +1

    People that buy reliced anything always cracks me up. If you want it tore up that bad just wear a big belt buckle and a metal wrist watch and rings a loose chain bracelet on your picking hand when you play, drop your keys on it a few times. Done

  • @andrewenglish3810
    @andrewenglish3810 3 роки тому +3

    This is a low qaulity replica. This is what you should expect if you don't pay a lot of money for it or are buying from a seller on Aliexpress who doesn't have a 100% rating. The replica industry is huge in China. The more a replica costs the closer it is to the real deal, the cheapper it costs the cheapper the quality. I guess the Chinese have taken the saying "you get what you pay for" to heart! :)

  • @kennycube5126
    @kennycube5126 11 місяців тому +1

    The best fake les paul I've got is a 1996 Orville LPS 75.
    I got a fake strat too. A Tokai Goldstar Sound St55.
    I love fake guitars. I'm gonna get a Navigator or a Crews Maniac Sound next, wooooooohoooooo😀

    • @kennycube5126
      @kennycube5126 11 місяців тому +1

      The Tokai Goldstar Sound is from 1983. And I want a Momose telecaster copy 😀

  • @vscrl1
    @vscrl1 4 роки тому +2

    I’m confused on the bridge. Lp tailpieces with a tune o matic bridge aren’t meant to be wraparound are there? Any lp I’ve ever had were string through tailpieces

    • @thebrodys
      @thebrodys 4 роки тому

      I've seen it done before and heard that it flattens out the string angle making less pressure on the strings (fewer broken strings). Not sure if that's true, but that's what I remember.

    • @ericb7799
      @ericb7799 4 роки тому

      You can do the wraparound thing on those bridges, but only really should if the angle of strings are hitting the bridge before it lays on the saddles. It does change the feel or slinkiness of how the strings feel.

    • @brianherres8992
      @brianherres8992  4 роки тому

      The wrap softens the angle and makes it a little softer to play - easier bends.

    • @brianherres8992
      @brianherres8992  4 роки тому

      @@thebrodys It can result in more broken strings as the string will eventually wear - cut a groove in the tailpiece and cut the string when bending. (Happened to me with a solid brass tailpiece).

    • @TempoDrift1480
      @TempoDrift1480 4 роки тому +1

      You can't understand what he was talking about in the video? Who ties your shoes in the morning?

  • @LightweightUK2007
    @LightweightUK2007 8 місяців тому

    What do you make of the Guyker tuners?

  • @ericb7799
    @ericb7799 4 роки тому +4

    Why the heck does the first one have little holes all over the top? Doesn’t look like any kind of natural wear to me that would cause that. Looks like it got attacked by an icepick or something.

    • @brianherres8992
      @brianherres8992  4 роки тому +3

      I think its supposed to be wood worm holes. No idea what they were thinking.

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 4 роки тому +1

      I've seen marks like that caused by heavy (and Gaudy) bracelets some Artists wear (Slash).
      However those marks are usually confined to the area of play.
      This is what happens when the person doing the relic work doesn't play guitar or fully understand what they are doing (IMHO).

    • @j_freed
      @j_freed 3 роки тому

      I don’t mind that, they are definitely odd but remind me of mineral flecks.
      The lack of edge dish in the top carve and the lack of fret nibs seem too obvious… plus the control cluster is way off position. The overall look is nice.

  • @hadtodoit2647
    @hadtodoit2647 2 роки тому +1

    You should by from China please 🙏 type in 4,500 chibson part one and two thanks bro

  • @j_freed
    @j_freed 3 роки тому +2

    This second guitar is a “Les Paul substandard”… Also, there’s something very wrong about the size, shape and the layout of everything on the headstocks of both guitars. It would be fascinating to see these companies hack these guitars together, and what their thought process is…

  • @jambajoby32
    @jambajoby32 2 роки тому +1

    3:57 def Gib. USA quality lmao

  • @angelcarrilfernandez1537
    @angelcarrilfernandez1537 4 роки тому +2

    Link?

    • @brianherres8992
      @brianherres8992  2 роки тому

      CH123guitars on Ebay. He doesnt have any at the moment. To many problems with delays in shipping.

  • @bigstick5278
    @bigstick5278 3 роки тому +1

    Chibsons are like a box of chocolets..

  • @claudiocruzat7667
    @claudiocruzat7667 4 роки тому +3

    Stay away from...Gibson prices. XD.

  • @shrcorvo83
    @shrcorvo83 3 роки тому +1

    Link shop

  • @answersinreality6316
    @answersinreality6316 4 роки тому +1

    'totally' different?

  • @Superman-pn1rx
    @Superman-pn1rx Рік тому

    Disappointed because the plastic is no fit perfectly, but very happy with that paint because is relic. That’s hilarious 😅

  • @MrBrooxy
    @MrBrooxy 4 роки тому +2

    The tuners is an easy fix just glue some toothpicks into the old screw holes then redrill them into their proper position. That neck join though thats a disgrace

    • @robertgould8887
      @robertgould8887 4 роки тому +1

      should not have to fix anything though. I bought a cherry red Ace Frehley custom and it arrived with a fractured neck. They refunded me 50$ and I fixed the neck and it plays great and sounds great now.

  • @jonathanpham7397
    @jonathanpham7397 4 роки тому +4

    Just like my Chinese semi hollow. Look at the head stock spacing around the tuners. Look at how uneven each side of the head stock is. It's crazy how much better these guitars could be with just simple quality control. Can you imagine how big of an impact that hiring one American would be to their luthier shop. Lol. I'd stay away unless you can get actual pics of the guitar you're buying. And double check everything closely

    • @bigstick5278
      @bigstick5278 2 роки тому

      Just hiring a real Luther would do.

  • @TheRockCzars
    @TheRockCzars 4 роки тому +2

    Trolls notwithstanding...It appears the general consensus "everywhere" is to replace the electronics (PUPs, jacks, switches, pots, wiring, etc. & some hardware items if desired) from "any" guitar from China and save thousands of dollars if you just desire additional crayons in your production box that matches the feel/tonal characteristics of iconic off-the-shelf US manufactured instruments. However, if you desire something truly special, it's NOT rocket science, just a guitar any human with the implied skill level/equipment can produce when detailed specs are provided and confirmed via pics (i.e. Back: 1-Piece Mahogany w/12-hole weight relief, Top: 1-Piece 3/4" Plain Maple, Joint: Long Tenon (Ultra Modern Contoured heel) 1-piece Solid Mahogany custom elliptical/modern "flat oval" profile neck, custom paint job: Neck Binding: Electric Violet Single-ply & Body Binding: Dark Turquoise Multi-ply, Fingerboard Material: Solid Ebony, Number Of Frets: 24, 3 Humbuckers, etc.), one can theoretically own the quality of those ranging $5k-$10k+ for far less than $2k with all the push/push/pull pot wiring one can dream up (i.e. "Gibson LP Custom Shop Original" 1-off w/case). Those of you with thousands of dollars burning holes in your collective pockets can donate it to TheRockCzars & the proceeds will support All US instrument manufacturers. ;)

    • @briansmythe3219
      @briansmythe3219 4 роки тому

      you can COPY and paste , On every Chibson Video Hey , Your learning you must be Chinese

    • @TheRockCzars
      @TheRockCzars 4 роки тому

      @@briansmythe3219 "your" is spelled "you're"...looks like YOU also need to LEARN the word is "Mandarin", not Chinese, stupid troll.😆 Learn the English language & spend less time trolling...troll along.🧟‍♂️

    • @briansmythe3219
      @briansmythe3219 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheRockCzars Get kicked out of the local Primary scool did ya , What failed english school teacher were ya , Dye your Hair purple too do ya ,

    • @TheRockCzars
      @TheRockCzars 4 роки тому

      @@briansmythe3219 Can't pull anything over on you...silly little troll. Ya reckin' ya 'bout ready ta go trollin' some other feed with yer lil' troll gang? Bless yer lil' troll heart! Troll along...troll along. ;)

    • @davidmarks5400
      @davidmarks5400 Рік тому

      Hey! Those are my lines!!

  • @davidharvey8812
    @davidharvey8812 2 роки тому +1

    You keep saying terrible. But you get what you pay for right ?

  • @richardjones2811
    @richardjones2811 2 роки тому

    End of the day you get what you pay for.

  • @spudwashington3880
    @spudwashington3880 Рік тому

    Not many videos saying why some gibsons are good and some are bad . There’s more bad gibsons then good ones, 1-8 might actually sound good for real Gibson’s . As a person who has bought and played many gibsons.

  • @bristolfashion4421
    @bristolfashion4421 2 роки тому +1

    the very best thing about the chibbie is that it let us grabba Great Amerciacn Icon for *a stupidly low price* - we want we want we want !! This is becos the lickel chineee boyz and gerls make them for a cppl of noodles an hour - it take them orl week to ern inuff to eet a meel hahaha but never mind at least we got our Grate American Icon for nuffink much oh yes !!! CHIBBIEE WHIBBIE WHOOOOO HOOOOOO !!

  • @nigeleaston7993
    @nigeleaston7993 4 роки тому +6

    Bought one of these, a Custom Black Beauty. Took me about an hour in the shop to set it up and I have a really good guitar to play with. Cost around £300 00 quid sterling all in. So I get a Les Paul and Trump and his magas get nothing........ result.

  • @DJEDzTV
    @DJEDzTV 4 роки тому +1

    oi, you said something about guards at the back not being in line? PM me your email, il show you photos how my real Gibson Studio 2016 looks, when i got it brand spanking new...:D

  • @rockingstar3534
    @rockingstar3534 4 роки тому +3

    You are buying a china copy guitars. For the price you are paying, i think you are asking too much.

  • @Richard56er
    @Richard56er 2 роки тому +1

    No comments on how the Chinese guitar plays or sounds then. I like Gibson guitars but I look at this one and I'm not a fan. I hate it when people deliberately cause damage to a perfectly good guitar and call it a relic. To me it looks shite. What's the point? It's just as bad as the Chinese making fake Gibsons. Are you trying to fool people into thinking you have a genuine vintage Gibson? That wrap over on the tail-piece looks crap, especially as the B string isn't wrapped over. Why wrap the strings over anyway? It's certainly not what Gibson intended is it?
    If some people are happy to buy a Chinese one one that's up to them. they take the risk in whether they receive a good copy or bad.
    If I'm spending a lot of money on a genuine Gibson I want to try and keep it in pristine condition. I own a Gibson SG, I gig with it and look after it. I don't deliberately damage it.
    If you want to scratch and dent your guitars that's your choice. Likewise, if people want to buy Chinese fakes/copies, that's their choice.

    • @arfboucher3855
      @arfboucher3855 Рік тому +1

      There is an official gibson picture in an old gibson brochure showing a wrap around in the 50s and it definitely decreases the break angle to decrease tension and allows a slight amount of sustain, many of the greats did it, Page being the big one . A fake gibson saved gibson from bankruptcy, and i have bought 8 brand new gibsons that would have needed everything replaced and serious fret work done to be decent guitars, I sold them, they were expensive garbage. In the 50s gibson made great quality guitars, now they make shovels and ironing boards, cheap crap. Bought a chibson 2 weeks ago and it plays perfectly, no fret work , upgrade all electronics and it blows gibsons away .wasted twenty grand on gibson

  • @donkkong5551
    @donkkong5551 4 роки тому +2

    For a little extra money if you can't afford a real Les Paul check out Tokai Love Rocks & Greco Eg copies. The Japanese do copies right. I will definitely not buy a Chinese copy that's for sure..

    • @brianherres8992
      @brianherres8992  4 роки тому +2

      I just picked up a brand new el cheapo Epiphone Les Paul for 99 Euros at the Musicstore and it rocks the socks of of the bad fake! The bad fake is now a decent player after several mods but it still sucks for the $$$ Any Epi is much better! I do love the vintage reliced one with one piece body n neck though and will never sell that one.

    • @dermisart4448
      @dermisart4448 4 роки тому

      Hi Brian, I just ordered one from CHGuitard123 a few weeks ago, asked for it to be un-reliced. May I know:
      1) do the tuning key holes fit a proper Kluson 3 a side tuners?
      2) I actually love thick fat necks but I’m guessing the CHGuitars123 Les Paul has a very thin neck. Would you happen to know the actual thickness of the neck on yours?
      Thanks!

    • @brianherres8992
      @brianherres8992  4 роки тому

      @@dermisart4448 8mm tuning holes. My 59 Replica neck is fat - original Gibson specs. He sells alot of different ones so i quess it will depend on which one you ordered. Most importantly make sure you get one with the one piece body and one piece neck!

    • @dermisart4448
      @dermisart4448 4 роки тому

      1959 fat neck is great. Thanks what I want. I love thicker necks. Much appreciate on the reply, thank you.. I’m 1 month into the wait. I’ll let you know how it goes. Hopefully there’s no major mistakes like the tailpiece being off. Thanks, man!

    • @j_freed
      @j_freed 3 роки тому

      It’s funny that with a solid body Guitar people obsess over one or two piece backs on their copy LPs… But they’re still paying US$7000 for a 1970s Norlin pancake body Les Paul Custom because it’s “Vintage.”
      I guess everything is about aesthetics… And “gestalt.”

  • @scottanderson4175
    @scottanderson4175 2 місяці тому

    I paid $1,129 for a Fender player plus Nashville Tele that is not as nice as the guitar you say is horrible 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @arabofon
    @arabofon 2 роки тому

    I don't see anything "TERRIBLE" about the second guitar, except that it's a fake. I didn't hear any valid reason to stay away from those chibsons. Besides the fact that they are counterfeits, they are perfectly playable guitars, it looks like.

  • @russbeston1729
    @russbeston1729 9 місяців тому

    Nitpicker.

  • @dragan4658
    @dragan4658 Рік тому

    There are much better options to these fakes and for the same amount of cash, Harley Benton, IYV, firefly LyxPro and many others.

  • @jamesseverin
    @jamesseverin 3 роки тому +1

    I will never buy one of these piece of shit guitars again! first one i bought was a pretty nice guitar until the neck twisted so bad that it is not playable! 2nd one i bought had a twisted neck from the start!. I could have bought a great vintage V100 for the money i wasted on those shitty guitars

    • @davidmarks5400
      @davidmarks5400 Рік тому +1

      You rolled the dice and it came up "snake eyes"

    • @jamesseverin
      @jamesseverin Рік тому

      @@davidmarks5400 Twice! Im not a good gambler i guess!

  • @luisytomy64
    @luisytomy64 9 місяців тому

    Looks like You are a guitar snob