Slight correction; Avywenna is a 5 star so your garuanteed Laevatain in 120. So unless they run a banner with two 6 stars you'll get the banner 6 star at those 120 pulls. When they said 50% they meant for the respective rarity, pull a 5 star its a coin toss to be the new one or a different one. Now the real question is if banner units are limited or will go into the standard pool like AK.
Looking at Hoyo games, where you waiting 1 irl year for a character, this system better be like in original AK. But, if they want somehow "limite" them, they can make a "1st year banner" where all character made in first year after release goes here. And "2nd year banner" and so on. (That's just my opinion)
TL;DR Dont pull till you have 120 pulls. Glad to see that weapon banner doesn't take pulling resources (seems like a green cert type of deal). Part of what made OG Arknights so generous was the ability to get 6* without pulling (Gold Certs and Recruitment). We have yet to se an analogue of that). 0.4 for banner op hurts tho.
If the 120 stays. In OG Arknights I always have 120 pulls ready for each limited banner and I never missed any limited op that way. I usually get the second 6* from those banners too. I have ALL limited operators to date doing that in f2p. The question is, how many pulls do we get each month in Endfield?
@gucky4717 In 4 years playing arknights i can probably count with my hands the amount of times i had to do more than 120 pulls, so that seems to be more than enough. The fact that pots seem to be as powerful as OG AK calms me down considerably,as you only need one copy. Like i said in another post, just don't gacha till you have 120 pulls and you are set. f2p have to skip banners sometimes, but that is every gacha ever.
I have mixed feelings about the gacha system... on one hand the odds don't sound bad, the 3 levels of pittys in the banner don't sound bad, and not seeing weapons in the pool gives me peace of mind... the problem will be to see how generous they are with the currency for the rolls and what systems they can implement for farming it... as well as how hard it can be to farm for it, or far for equipment... I feel like they're on the right track... but there's still a lot to see.
good to know, if possible would also like to know the ff: will 6 stars get added to standard (like arknights) or rerun hell (hoyo games) currency acquisition (how many pulls non-paid per month, how many from monthly pass?) dupes (game changing or minimal?)
Have you unlocked dailies and weeklies in the game? How much do they give you based on that? I assume exploring gives you some but those are probably one time only.
are these banner standard banner btw? kinda like og ak they're added to the standard pull after their banner end, and there'll be a limited banner every 6 month. i kinda pray that it isn't like mihoyo's kind of gacha ngl, having every new characters be a limited character sucks.
Is there any weapon gacha like in hoyo games or wuwa? I just hate it if i need 80 pulls for char, then another 80 pulls, not include off rate, for weapon to take out that char potential
@Eckogen thanks for the reply (and for the video)! That's unfortunate (need to make sure to pull 1x rather than 10x) but oh well. It's fine if they maintain their generosity and F2P friendliness from their previous title. If they do, I won't be F2P.
I know there'll be less ops compared to arknights, but I still wish the drop rate was usual 2%, .8% is just very low and I fear this will bring an urge to spend money if the the game is not generous enough and/or they bring limited banner system/frequency from arknights, the latter being the reason I dropped it.
I think they will. One glance and it should be obvious that at least the weapon gacha rate is a total scam. For me, it's a first to see a rate up banner where the rate up has such a small percentage to show up lol. Like it's not guaranteed you'll get it, but guaranteed you'll lose it
Testers need to be loud, to not make a Genshin 2.0 with character banner. And with weapon banner, like in Wuwa, where you have 100% chance of obtaining a rate up weapon. And also don't make every new added character as "limited".
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Slight correction; Avywenna is a 5 star so your garuanteed Laevatain in 120. So unless they run a banner with two 6 stars you'll get the banner 6 star at those 120 pulls. When they said 50% they meant for the respective rarity, pull a 5 star its a coin toss to be the new one or a different one.
Now the real question is if banner units are limited or will go into the standard pool like AK.
Looking at Hoyo games, where you waiting 1 irl year for a character, this system better be like in original AK.
But, if they want somehow "limite" them, they can make a "1st year banner" where all character made in first year after release goes here.
And "2nd year banner" and so on.
(That's just my opinion)
Hoping that buying 6 and 5 star operations with certificates feature will be inherited in this game.
From what I have seen in other streams, it is already there, just currently only for the Standard Banner
TL;DR Dont pull till you have 120 pulls.
Glad to see that weapon banner doesn't take pulling resources (seems like a green cert type of deal).
Part of what made OG Arknights so generous was the ability to get 6* without pulling (Gold Certs and Recruitment). We have yet to se an analogue of that).
0.4 for banner op hurts tho.
If the 120 stays.
In OG Arknights I always have 120 pulls ready for each limited banner and I never missed any limited op that way. I usually get the second 6* from those banners too.
I have ALL limited operators to date doing that in f2p.
The question is, how many pulls do we get each month in Endfield?
@gucky4717 In 4 years playing arknights i can probably count with my hands the amount of times i had to do more than 120 pulls, so that seems to be more than enough. The fact that pots seem to be as powerful as OG AK calms me down considerably,as you only need one copy. Like i said in another post, just don't gacha till you have 120 pulls and you are set. f2p have to skip banners sometimes, but that is every gacha ever.
Surtr is beautiful damn.
I have mixed feelings about the gacha system... on one hand the odds don't sound bad, the 3 levels of pittys in the banner don't sound bad, and not seeing weapons in the pool gives me peace of mind... the problem will be to see how generous they are with the currency for the rolls and what systems they can implement for farming it... as well as how hard it can be to farm for it, or far for equipment... I feel like they're on the right track... but there's still a lot to see.
good to know, if possible would also like to know the ff:
will 6 stars get added to standard (like arknights) or rerun hell (hoyo games)
currency acquisition (how many pulls non-paid per month, how many from monthly pass?)
dupes (game changing or minimal?)
Dupes probably will stay like in Arknights just minimal things like few cd or dmg
I'm more interested in knowing how to farm the rolls
the gacha system looks ok for me
thanks for this! can you also share the details on the weapon banner too in another video?
125? Great system!
Thx for the video!
0:09 - 0:10 damn my ears exploded lol the volume difference was unexpected
Have you unlocked dailies and weeklies in the game? How much do they give you based on that? I assume exploring gives you some but those are probably one time only.
are these banner standard banner btw? kinda like og ak they're added to the standard pull after their banner end, and there'll be a limited banner every 6 month.
i kinda pray that it isn't like mihoyo's kind of gacha ngl, having every new characters be a limited character sucks.
This is a limited banner. It goes away in a few days so I'll see what next banner is like.
Is there any weapon gacha like in hoyo games or wuwa? I just hate it if i need 80 pulls for char, then another 80 pulls, not include off rate, for weapon to take out that char potential
There is, but it differs from standard weapon banners we know from current gachas.
Hmmm i think i will be criticized for this but i liked the Wuthering waves gacha system, regarding the weapon banner at least
Is it accurate that pity doesn't carry over?
I believe so.
@Eckogen thanks for the reply (and for the video)! That's unfortunate (need to make sure to pull 1x rather than 10x) but oh well. It's fine if they maintain their generosity and F2P friendliness from their previous title. If they do, I won't be F2P.
If you get Surtr before 120 pulls, does the guarantee go away?
Most likely.
When will it be officially released?
Is surtr gonna be the launch 6 star?
If they remain the banner order, then yes.
I know there'll be less ops compared to arknights, but I still wish the drop rate was usual 2%, .8% is just very low and I fear this will bring an urge to spend money if the the game is not generous enough and/or they bring limited banner system/frequency from arknights, the latter being the reason I dropped it.
good numbers, awful system, guaranteed doesnt get carried over, weapon banner is a complete scam, people should complain about this
I think they will. One glance and it should be obvious that at least the weapon gacha rate is a total scam. For me, it's a first to see a rate up banner where the rate up has such a small percentage to show up lol. Like it's not guaranteed you'll get it, but guaranteed you'll lose it
Testers need to be loud, to not make a Genshin 2.0 with character banner.
And with weapon banner, like in Wuwa, where you have 100% chance of obtaining a rate up weapon.
And also don't make every new added character as "limited".