THIS. what are we even talking about. the fact is we are paying attention to the election and we can. and yes diddy abused people. like two things can exist at once.
Typical “what about”-ism It’s not even a good distraction argument either, they just don’t know Hefner was faced with similar lawsuits & allegations, a federal investigation, and a 12-part documentary about it all. It just didn’t come to fruition in time because he died, but it all came out. And just because them ignorant folks don’t know all that, they using it as a “but what about Hugh Hefner! GOTCHA!” moment that don’t even work 😂
As a CEO of a national minority, missing persons and sex trafficking organization, I really wish people with platforms would reach out to experts because the information being handed out is misleading and dangerous to victims
Amen to that so many podcasters talk about subject they have no clue about. I been in the lobby of an ICE center I know they didn't know I could hear them, boy my stomach turned ....
@@oleeshanorris5343 that's it right there! If ONLY people really knew. Diddy's situation started the conversation so if we are going to have it, allow the experts to speak. It's time to use this moment to educate
@@Carmie_B its called secrets of playboy : former workers & playmates talking about their experiences in the playboy mansion & their relationship with hugh hefner...
That’s so true.. if he were still somewhat healthy and alive he woulda went broke from having to pay out all those civil suits.. Dan blizerian thought of himself as the new age Hefner. I won’t be surprised if they come for him soon..
They allowed that though. The people who control the media knew Hef, just like they know the pedo's in Hollywood that they still refuse to expose today. They all the same evil devil worshippers that do the same evil shit
OMG.... EACTLY.... That's why I can't watch none of that dudes interviews. Constantly repeating himself is so fucking ANNOYING. Like wtf bruh just say the shit.
The actual situation may not,but heavy publicizing it in the media outlets may do. Anything that’s a hot topic , especially in mainstream media is for a reason..Propaganda is always at play.✅
@@perrealityI’m sorry but Diddy was foolishly negotiating for almost a year! He should have paid Cassie out so nothing went public. Diddy let his ego take the wheel and here we are!
5:46 I agree with Mel. The same thing happened with the Ray Rice case for the Baltimore Ravens. He was fine until the tape came out of him beating up his girlfriend on the elevator, once the NFL saw that it made it more realistic and they couldn’t have him as a face in their league anymore.
Hugh Hefner is from an era where people were swapping their wives, in Hollywood, for fun. It was the dawn of feminism and the apex of the sexual revolution. Basically, those orgies had documented legal consent. Most people complaining with any negative allegations about Hefner, already had multiple sex partners, were filmed laughing, while playing naked volleyball around the swimming pool, and they know where Hugh’s secret birthmark is located… Hugh was a “Pimp” a known Pimp, a wealthy famous pimp. No one is going to believe you, when you say you were raped, in a known pimps crib, where you get paid to do jobs created by the pimp. Smh 🤦🏽♂️ Basically those complaints about Hefner aren’t equal to what Diddy is being accused of. Diddy is the Marquis De Sade or Caligula; perverts who enjoyed chaining up their maids and servants, beating & torturing them, and then doing the worst perverse things, you could think of to them for their own pleasure.
Two wrongs don’t make a right but they definitely waited until after Hugh Hefner was gone to talk about his skeletons. Eddie Griffin said it years ago… “no black man will make it out the game clean” it just so happens that Diddy was in the wrong and he thought he was untouchable.
Difference between the Hefner situation is he was already being investigated and then he died of old age. And Hefner wasn't associated with Gangs, and extortion.
Also I dont remember Hefner ever being investigated for children specifically. I got the whole playbunny's being high end escorts, drugs, and the whole sex party things. However if I remember the scandals it was about them being escorts and so on. Was it ever about Kids, Rape, Extortion, Violence and such like Diddy's ?
@@Swagg23Kid I don't remember the feds mentioning any involvement of kids in the indictment either. Y'all hear fake negative things and just run with it with no evidence.
Hefner is deceased... P Diddy still here with over 100 allegations, people saying they were drugged, weapons with scratched serial numbers and a very disturbing video of assault. He's f'n cooked
“this broadcast is too big to start with dr umar’s opinion on the election and puff”.. yo wtf does that even mean ?? joe swears his cast members don’t pick good topics but when he wants to bring up some complete birdshit to talk about it’s ok ???
If you listened to Dr Umars entire statement, instead of a snippet, you would recognize he said black ppl could do multiple things at once (OBVIOUSLY), but there is still a large section of the populace who (sadly) can't focus on two things at once. At the end of the day I'm gonna respect the opinion of an Umar before these "smart-dumb" 🥷🏾🥷🏾 on the JBP podcast. They're not about nothin n just chattin. Budden is a stooge who is a slave to a check. The rest if his cast are lackeys.
No he should of paid Cassie before she made it public, if he went to trial all those SA victims would of came out the woodwork.. That’s when everybody gets courage and wanna talk all it takes is one victim..
This is the type of logic that get people labeled as misogynists. What does her attendance and/or assumed participation at “industry parties” have to do with being against exploitation and trafficking rings? Maybe question why you’re so willing to invent and reach for past mistakes to justify not addressing what was learned from them. It’s ok to encourage doing better once you know better.
The difference is, there was no 'Me-Too' movement in Hefner's time. His antics took place decades prior, and he died before the movement took flight. It's not like the P. Diddler did have adequate warnings. After the arrest, trial and imprisonment of R. Kelly, Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein and Epstein, the Diddler should have at least tried to clean up his act, instead he seemed to pick up steam.
“All this stuff going on, I wanna hear what Ja Rule says so I can make sense of all this.” This is what I heat when I hear what Dr UMAR has to say. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ayo, the only difference between Puff parties and PB Mansion parties is that Puff had a traveling show. Hugh stayed stationary.....henceforth no trafficking.🤔🤔
@@parkeralayande1343 Please help me understand where you came up with "I'm cool wit " any of it, in the statement I, wrote? I spoke on logistical differences in the two situations being compared. Puff was on the road, Hugh Had a Global Famous Mansion in LA.....That all.
Diddy is far worse than Vince. Vince at least used his influence to protect wrestlers from crimes, when he could. Diddy went out of his way to get some of his artist killed. He even made sure every artist he ever signed left broke, and never looked to help them out.
This wasn't whistle blowing though. The Ciroc and Diddy made the news before Cassie came out with stating she was going to do a tell-all book. The wheels started when Diddy fought against Ciroc and then the Cassie shoe dropped down the stairs.
there where women who came out and said Hef flew them out for sex whether they knew it was with him or other ppl. thats considered sex trafficking, He was physically abusing those young girls and demeaning the women he was with, giving them diseases etc. what are we talking about here???
Umar can’t either- he’ll focus on everything else but his weight. Boy the heaviest one on the podcast. He needs to focus on the school, health and unwellsness retreat, child support, two baby mothers to keep fed as much as he eats. Good luck
I definitely think puff stepped out of line and that’s why this is happening. They had this information and the industry knew for decades. Idc about the fear because puff is not the most powerful. Not even close. The really powerful ones, THEY ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN, until they didn’t want to anymore. AND it just so happens that they began to not “want to any more” right after diddy lost the suit against the ciroc. I remember specifically on this very podcast, MONTHS before the Cassie suit when JOE HIMSELF came on her and said “I don’t wanna speculate but I think something is happening behind the scenes with puff. Out of respect because he’s such a big figure I won’t speculate, but will be paying attention in these next months”(paraphrased). People have BEEN saying these things about puff, first hand accounts(I.e gene deal). The Cassie video was SOMEWHERE all these years. Even tho puff “purchased the bud”, SOMEBODY HAD A COPY. The reason all this stuff is coming out now is because puff got too big for his britches and they knocced him down. With Cosby he was punished every time he tried to purchase a major cable network to make it a blac entertainment network. Even with simple things like diddy launching his own blac network and naming it “revolt”. Hov would NEVER do some shit like that and tho it seems minor I’m SURE the elites take notice. And when you add on whatever else he’s done to “revolt” behind the scenes, like suing the very company that propelled him to “billionaire” status they don’t like that. It’s like when Kaepernic took the knee. The owners as a whole came together even tho they didn’t all have a problem with Kaep doing it. when the elites have had enough, they come together to decapitate you in front the world just to prove that your “followers” that you are mortal. We all know diddy did this shit and like wit kels, THE INDUSTRY BEEN KNEW. When it’s time to make an example, that’s exactly what they do. With kels you had his associates on film in the “Surviving” documentary admitting to being apart of a trafficcing ring. They admitted to waiting outside the schools and piccing up the girls. They admitted kels wasn’t smart enough to book a flight plan so they had to fly the girls in and out. His manager admitted to forging govt documents to change Aaliyah’s birthday on her marriage license with kels from 15-18…. But somehow kels is the ONLY person in jail. Diddy is literally in jail on a trafficcing Rico, but outside the white boy who was on the plane with drugs during the raid, diddy is the only person in jail. Epstein was arrested for a trafficcing ring and supplying girls globally to elites and we know what happened to him. Maxwell was arrested because she was the person orchestrating everything and connected the girls with the elites. She survived to be sentenced but somehow none of the people she supplied the girls to were ever exposed. The only people ever arrested for a global billion dollar trafficcing operation involving the highest elites while also having the evidence proving each person who was involved, was Epstein and Maxwell even tho she had a descriptive list with all the names involved. That just shows you that it was never about justice. The were just tying up loose ends once they get tired of getting caught up on loose threads. It’s all a game and once you’re a player you can never retire from the game. Even as a legendary player, The moment you try to leave, the same league you helped build will tarnish your career and make it so that the people who “loved you” from the beginning will never speak your name again. That’s some wicced shit. They allow you to get away with your dirt just so that they have the evidence and can control you til they don’t need you no more
We're in a different time. If white people aren't held accountable how do you explain Weinstein, Epstein, Maxwell and Danny Masterton going to prison? In the 21st century people are going down. Umar's Whataboutism reeks of not caring about victims and just wanting to play into his race agenda.
They are called "the freak offs". Im sure the party and the freak off was seperate. If you went to the freak off you shouldve knew what to expect. And playboy models werent porn actresses,so all you wouldve expected was nudity.
I agree. They waited until he died then had a show called surviving Hefner. They let him slide. Who cares about rich people getting freaky. This is about Cassie
Because it isn't just rich people doing private things. It's the illegal activities involved within them such as the sex trafficking charges being brought up on Diddy which obviously were likely forcing people into pleasing or receiving during these private parties for his guests and friends.
Trust this isn't about race or getting freaky this is about using your power to force people into doing things they don't want by way of coercion, drugs and violence
@@rௐண we haven't heard of Hefner forcing them women's to do something strange for a piece of change, Honeycomb used his power to force,coerce,drug and violate people using violence as a tactic, those are the difference's
Cassie told them (authorities) everything & we saw the hotel footage. We don’t have footage of Hugh kicking women in hotels. Cassie did this to Diddy .. not liquor companies lol
These people purposely ignore the lawyer press conference that took place? We comparing play boy parties to a man who rated 9 year old boys? Give me a break
Umar got a new health and wellness retreat yall- you will get his health and amazing figure if you go! O and this man is behind on child support so make sure you do the retreat so he can keep telling the judge his money is tied up in a non-existent school etc
This is not a conspiracy. It was just a different time and era. If Heffnar was doing this in the 2020s he would've been prosecuted too. It's not complicated. Me Too movement has shifted the culture.
Umar got the answers for everything except for when that school opening 🤨
Say it louder for the people in the back. Umar is a fucking grifter...
FACTS 😂😂😂
This part... He better opt for an online option at this point 'cause... Not holding my breath!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Y'all not easy at all
I’m with Mel about the phone shit. There is no point of getting a new iPhone every time a new one comes out.
I’m still rocking an iPhone 10. Works just fine.
I do the samething
I went from the 7Max to 13 and thinking of getting the 16 max.
@@semyaza555XS gang here. On its last legs tho, might need to get the 16
Me too , I didn’t get me current 14 pro max until I broke my 8 beyond repair. Been a few years & two models since. What is it doing mine doesn’t .
Ive had the same Galaxy Android phone since 2019. Still works just fine
@@OmarScruggs me too Android forever
I just got rid of an android I had since 2016. Reluctantly.
Had my blackberry from 2009 til just recently. Buttons were worn and a replacement cost more than a new phone
Team Android here 🙋🏾♂️
I definitely still have a plethora of old androids i can just pop a sim card in 💯💯
Joe said he Karen'd his way to the front of the line lmao 😂😂😂
its so disrespectful to black people to assume they can't pay attention to two things at once.
right, we aren't slow how dare they
THIS. what are we even talking about. the fact is we are paying attention to the election and we can. and yes diddy abused people. like two things can exist at once.
People do say this about other things tho.
It's not just about black people and this situation.
Omg yesss. I’m sick of the “Distraction “ 💩 Just say ya slow 😂
Typical “what about”-ism
It’s not even a good distraction argument either, they just don’t know Hefner was faced with similar lawsuits & allegations, a federal investigation, and a 12-part documentary about it all. It just didn’t come to fruition in time because he died, but it all came out.
And just because them ignorant folks don’t know all that, they using it as a “but what about Hugh Hefner! GOTCHA!” moment that don’t even work 😂
As a CEO of a national minority, missing persons and sex trafficking organization, I really wish people with platforms would reach out to experts because the information being handed out is misleading and dangerous to victims
Amen to that so many podcasters talk about subject they have no clue about. I been in the lobby of an ICE center I know they didn't know I could hear them, boy my stomach turned ....
I've been in the lobby of an Ice holding center, they thought I didn't speak English, what I heard made me sick...... If people only knew .....
“CEO”
@@oleeshanorris5343 that's it right there! If ONLY people really knew. Diddy's situation started the conversation so if we are going to have it, allow the experts to speak. It's time to use this moment to educate
Where's the list of people associated with Epstein?... Did the investigation end with his death??
Mel I love your strength with the men you work with.
They snuck a 2 minute APPLE advertisement right in there
Very slick!
I’m really here for the IPhone because my upgrade is on the way… 😅
Joe tellin mel to talk him through it , is nasty work @@muntublackson4757
Either that or it was an audition for getting that sponsor bag.
Yup
I watched the playboy documentary that came out recently : hugh hefner was a monster...
No doubt!
Yikes… Where can I watch it?
@@Carmie_B its called secrets of playboy : former workers & playmates talking about their experiences in the playboy mansion & their relationship with hugh hefner...
He wouldve been next if he hadn't died. He also hid his crimes better than Diddy.
@@jaye5926 ok thank u! I will be tuning in
Hugh Hefner was before me too. He was dying just as his me toos were catching up with
him
That’s so true.. if he were still somewhat healthy and alive he woulda went broke from having to pay out all those civil suits..
Dan blizerian thought of himself as the new age Hefner. I won’t be surprised if they come for him soon..
They allowed that though. The people who control the media knew Hef, just like they know the pedo's in Hollywood that they still refuse to expose today. They all the same evil devil worshippers that do the same evil shit
Me too movement was created to get the BLM movement to get to the lbgt movement. The last one is the only one they ever wanted
Yea he would have def been cooked but I think it was a different era back when playboy was massive.
@@CamPerryWhat drugging women and raping them? Smh. Evil is evil
Umar the king of “repeat the question until I come up with a conspiracy” 🤣
bruh i hate that shit😂
Or you the king of choosing ignorance and stupidity. Some people are just lazy thinkers and rather choose to live in delusional
@@Jay-mc1sg 🤣 do you repeat yourself several times before you make a point? I didn’t know this was normal
OMG.... EACTLY.... That's why I can't watch none of that dudes interviews. Constantly repeating himself is so fucking ANNOYING. Like wtf bruh just say the shit.
😂😂
Two wrongs don’t make a right
It make it Even though
@@keva6303*_**Comparable**_* _NOT, “Even”_
3 lefts make a right though
One wrong doesn't make a right either.
But the 👱♂️ get away wit 🔪 🔪🔪😂
Diddy's situation has nothing to do with the election lol
The actual situation may not,but heavy publicizing it in the media outlets may do.
Anything that’s a hot topic , especially in mainstream media is for a reason..Propaganda is always at play.✅
@@perreality that sounds dumb, there are national elections every 2 years, so people can't be arrested every 2 years?
Its hilarious how Umar thinks people cant focus on more than one thing at a time.
Diddy's 2004 Vote or Die is still the template for the DNCs youth voter outreach.
@@perrealityI’m sorry but Diddy was foolishly negotiating for almost a year! He should have paid Cassie out so nothing went public. Diddy let his ego take the wheel and here we are!
5:46 I agree with Mel. The same thing happened with the Ray Rice case for the Baltimore Ravens. He was fine until the tape came out of him beating up his girlfriend on the elevator, once the NFL saw that it made it more realistic and they couldn’t have him as a face in their league anymore.
Factz!
Holy shit glad I saw this I have the exact same thought!!
The difference between Hefner & Diddy is that Hefner never pissed off the higher bosses like Diddy did🤔💯👍
Yup, Diddy started talking too pro-Black for their liking, so they got rid of him
Exactly, also Diddy started talking about Black empowerment too much for their liking
Only sensible comment I have seen
@@Karsielatee But the systems spoon fed those people
Hugh Hefner is from an era where people were swapping their wives, in Hollywood, for fun. It was the dawn of feminism and the apex of the sexual revolution.
Basically, those orgies had documented legal consent.
Most people complaining with any negative allegations about Hefner, already had multiple sex partners, were filmed laughing, while playing naked volleyball around the swimming pool, and they know where Hugh’s secret birthmark is located…
Hugh was a “Pimp” a known Pimp, a wealthy famous pimp. No one is going to believe you, when you say you were raped, in a known pimps crib, where you get paid to do jobs created by the pimp. Smh 🤦🏽♂️
Basically those complaints about Hefner aren’t equal to what Diddy is being accused of.
Diddy is the Marquis De Sade or Caligula; perverts who enjoyed chaining up their maids and servants, beating & torturing them, and then doing the worst perverse things, you could think of to them for their own pleasure.
Parks gotta get an award for the biggest yes man in podcast history. Joe Budden found a gem in him
Fr. Still owed mixing money lol
Haaaaaaaaaa
Two wrongs don’t make a right but they definitely waited until after Hugh Hefner was gone to talk about his skeletons. Eddie Griffin said it years ago… “no black man will make it out the game clean” it just so happens that Diddy was in the wrong and he thought he was untouchable.
Those chips weigh you down ?
That video of Cassie changed everything
There's an election??? I was so distracted by Diddy that I had no clue! ....
😂😂😂😂😂
The Diddy case will help informed voters make sense of consumer goods inflation - when it comes to oils / lotions anyway 😂
Dr. Umar is probably on those Diddy tapes lol
Butt naked, yelling out Black Power! 😂
No Diddy
Androids don't need customer care they just work😅😅
faxxxxx and they make their software perfect the very 1st time like a PC computer😂😂😂😂
🔥 I've had 3 Samsung galaxies. Not one has had an issue.
Facts 💯
Mel was standing on iPhone biz … I’m the same 😂❤❤❤
Difference between the Hefner situation is he was already being investigated and then he died of old age. And Hefner wasn't associated with Gangs, and extortion.
Exactly Hefner was a playboy diddy was drugging and blackmailing folks allegedly murdering Tupac and big
What gang is Diddy affiliated with?
Also I dont remember Hefner ever being investigated for children specifically. I got the whole playbunny's being high end escorts, drugs, and the whole sex party things. However if I remember the scandals it was about them being escorts and so on. Was it ever about Kids, Rape, Extortion, Violence and such like Diddy's ?
@@Swagg23Kid I don't remember the feds mentioning any involvement of kids in the indictment either. Y'all hear fake negative things and just run with it with no evidence.
Rrrrrriiiiggght… so they waited until he was in his 90s because they wanted to take him down so bad.. (yeah, sure)
Ice is dead wrong saying violence has nothing to do with these charges. Talking nonsense. There has to be FORCE and COERCION for RICO
If you believe everything the Feds say ... I got a bridge to sell
Bruh they don't do a RICO unless they got your ass on paper, audio, video, VR, whatever. They only play when the win is in the bag.
Violence: Behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something. I hate when people speak without a quick Google!
The issue is the coercion they’re highlighting is access…..
To be charged with RICO does not have to include violence at all.
RICO is about running a continuous criminal enterprise.
sneakin in the apple finesse during the diddy report is nasty work loll
I gotta say that iphone genius bar flex is the best thing i've ever received that from this pod
Hefner is deceased... P Diddy still here with over 100 allegations, people saying they were drugged, weapons with scratched serial numbers and a very disturbing video of assault. He's f'n cooked
Actually he's got over 3000 allegations and 120 preceding but your right I'm not trynna check you or anything not trynna be rude
@@dafreako95 Damn.... 3k?
@@dafreako95 no problem or offense taken. I understand. It also further supports the point.
Key word.... Allegations. Who are yall anyway? Check your family members
@@mackflyymedia I’m good I can say what I want to say and I don’t have to check no family members or none of that to say what I said… George.
Mel just exposed that iPhones are trash
"Illuminati Couch Over There" 🤣🤣
😹😹😹😹
😂
Minors at Puffs r@pe parties. And yall making excuses for Diddy smh
They protecting they industry buddy they went to his freak offs
Do you have proof that there are minors there? Were you there? Why is he not charged with that type of crime?
@@YoureNotThatGuy-777 This is how sensitive America is right now. If you're guilty of one thing all of a sudden you're guilty of everything😂😂😂😂😂
@@YoureNotThatGuy-777The Feds have "proof" hopefully you defend your mom's as much as you do rapists!
@@flatbkush6funny how that works isnt it😅
“this broadcast is too big to start with dr umar’s opinion on the election and puff”.. yo wtf does that even mean ?? joe swears his cast members don’t pick good topics but when he wants to bring up some complete birdshit to talk about it’s ok ???
Sold out many moons ago
Exactly,all of a sudden you wanna be a responsible with your platform😅?
Y is he acting like he so relevant any way? Nobody likes him & hes corny. Joe nothin go somewhere
JOE party partied with diddy.. come on now..
@@TheMindfulOpinion exactly!!!
This mood in this vid is everything!
Umar Johnson is a part comedian and full-time clown.
What’s even Umar’s point?
Your mother ‼️💯🤷🏾♂️
@@tombanks1475Should have swallowed you like she was told. I hope this helps 💜
@@jsuter8890his point is don’t get distracted by this diddy stuff when people should be paying attention to the election and what’s really important.
@@jsuter8890his point is negativity for money
I love Umar but to say this is a distraction is saying folks are slow; as if we can’t chew gum and walk at the same time. Shuddup 🙄
People are slow, they will believe anything the media tells them!
I love you
Very funny assertion 😂😂😂
Most people are slow. Entertainment is black people's biggest distraction.
If you listened to Dr Umars entire statement, instead of a snippet, you would recognize he said black ppl could do multiple things at once (OBVIOUSLY), but there is still a large section of the populace who (sadly) can't focus on two things at once.
At the end of the day I'm gonna respect the opinion of an Umar before these "smart-dumb" 🥷🏾🥷🏾 on the JBP podcast. They're not about nothin n just chattin. Budden is a stooge who is a slave to a check. The rest if his cast are lackeys.
Folks are slow
Hugh Hef had a damn plane... the playboy plane. How do you not get trafficking
I’m convinced the Joe Budden podcasts are all Agents!
They get off topic so easily lol
The Puff video was monumental, but I think that the fact that he paid the lawsuit so fast changed a LOT.
Puff should have take that shit to trail
No he should of paid Cassie before she made it public, if he went to trial all those SA victims would of came out the woodwork.. That’s when everybody gets courage and wanna talk all it takes is one victim..
@@JazzieJoi Agreed. I knew that he did it when he paid up ASAP. If he was smart, he would have paid her long ago. lol
Hefner just had the privilege of dying before the Me Too movement.
There goes that lack of accountability that they’re known for lol.
Yea take accountability saltine
his hugh hefner comment is 100% correct...
@@jaye5926 Heffer dead tho stop deflecting & making it a race thing
@@jaye5926no the fuck it's not.
@@jaye5926hugh wasn’t fucking little boys
Ms Ford....you've had your fair share of industry parties....acting all reborn
Exactly ppl Kill me coming back 20years later trying to hold some moral high ground. They only wagging they finger cuz they weren't caught
Facts! She wasn’t at all these parties and making it into videos for no reason!!
Did she not say in this very clip that she’s been to playboy parties and Puff parties???
@@SoMixedUpMel was getting super clapped
This is the type of logic that get people labeled as misogynists. What does her attendance and/or assumed participation at “industry parties” have to do with being against exploitation and trafficking rings?
Maybe question why you’re so willing to invent and reach for past mistakes to justify not addressing what was learned from them. It’s ok to encourage doing better once you know better.
The DIFFERENCE is RACE‼️
The difference is, there was no 'Me-Too' movement in Hefner's time. His antics took place decades prior, and he died before the movement took flight.
It's not like the P. Diddler did have adequate warnings. After the arrest, trial and imprisonment of R. Kelly, Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein and Epstein, the Diddler should have at least tried to clean up his act, instead he seemed to pick up steam.
“All this stuff going on,
I wanna hear what Ja Rule says so I can make sense of all this.”
This is what I heat when I hear what Dr UMAR has to say.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
This convo only makes sense as an easily packaged engagement bait or as a fire premise for a Boondocks reboot. 😂
Ayo, the only difference between Puff parties and PB Mansion parties is that Puff had a traveling show. Hugh stayed stationary.....henceforth no trafficking.🤔🤔
You REALLY think the playboy empire was stationary??? 😂😂😂
Drugging Innocent party goers?? Spiking the punch is cool withU?
@@parkeralayande1343 Please help me understand where you came up with "I'm cool wit " any of it, in the statement I, wrote? I spoke on logistical differences in the two situations being compared. Puff was on the road, Hugh Had a Global Famous Mansion in LA.....That all.
Umar got caught hollering at a snow bunny lol
0:46 assshole move but pretty genius tho, cred due to Joe 😂 might try that
"I got the new one"😂😂
All these ppl full of it running ther mouth after 30yrs
Genius Bar appointment is the the ultimate hack 😂😂😂😂
Honestly if we're going to compare Diddy to ANYONE it should be that bastard Vince McMahon!!! Those 2 are cut from the same cloth.
Yea Diddy and Heff really aren't comparable. Plus everybody knows Heff was doing some crazy sex stuff.
Diddy is far worse than Vince. Vince at least used his influence to protect wrestlers from crimes, when he could. Diddy went out of his way to get some of his artist killed. He even made sure every artist he ever signed left broke, and never looked to help them out.
When exactly did Dr. Umar become the person whose opinion everyone needs to know?
Plenty of those women at the Playboy mansion came up dead swept under the rug
Name some ?
Google it but Paige is the one I remember
Bring umar back!!!!! So many topics to discuss since he’s been gone and it’ll do numbers
This wasn't whistle blowing though. The Ciroc and Diddy made the news before Cassie came out with stating she was going to do a tell-all book. The wheels started when Diddy fought against Ciroc and then the Cassie shoe dropped down the stairs.
there where women who came out and said Hef flew them out for sex whether they knew it was with him or other ppl. thats considered sex trafficking, He was physically abusing those young girls and demeaning the women he was with, giving them diseases etc. what are we talking about here???
Hot Take: Dr. Umar accepted money from Diddy to open up his school!
😂😂😂 Joe - Karen'd my way riggt through that line. Hilarious!!
Dr. Umar doesn't think Black people can pay attention to more than one thing at a time??
No human can been proven you can switch fast between both and do way worse so yeah focus is important
They actually can't 😂😂😂stereotypes exist for a reason
Umar can’t either- he’ll focus on everything else but his weight. Boy the heaviest one on the podcast. He needs to focus on the school, health and unwellsness retreat, child support, two baby mothers to keep fed as much as he eats. Good luck
Lol
The first 2:20 of the video is an ad for apple, and the whole point was to show the clip, which we don't end up seeing. What's the point?
Yeah Mel. She a G. 😂
0:38 she smart.
I went from iPhone 6 to iPhone 10X max. I’m finally finna upgrade again
You can be Hugh Hefner AND epstein at the same time.
Im taking Joe's approach iphone shopping genius 😂😂😂
Skip the first 2:37
This the comfortable versus safe conversation.
Annnnnnd Hugh didn’t record powerful ppl to black mail them for more power.
wrong : u need 2 watch the playboy documentary that came out recently : hugh hefner was a monster
You don't know that just like you don't know diddy did it.
HEFNER DID RECORD PEOPLE HAVING SEX UNKNOWINGLY HE SAID CAUSE IT'S HIS HOUSE HE ADMITTED TO ONE OF HIS WIVES
Yes he did.
@@terrycayne1004 yep in the documentary the playmates said hugh recorded everything...
Ain't playboy Diddy's favorite word...lol 😂
This team-up was perfect!
Let's not forget the secret lacing of the champagne with the Tucci!
Who are these people who CANT focus on an election and criminal investigation??
“ u gotta be shittin me “ 😂
I definitely think puff stepped out of line and that’s why this is happening. They had this information and the industry knew for decades. Idc about the fear because puff is not the most powerful. Not even close. The really powerful ones, THEY ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN, until they didn’t want to anymore. AND it just so happens that they began to not “want to any more” right after diddy lost the suit against the ciroc. I remember specifically on this very podcast, MONTHS before the Cassie suit when JOE HIMSELF came on her and said “I don’t wanna speculate but I think something is happening behind the scenes with puff. Out of respect because he’s such a big figure I won’t speculate, but will be paying attention in these next months”(paraphrased). People have BEEN saying these things about puff, first hand accounts(I.e gene deal). The Cassie video was SOMEWHERE all these years. Even tho puff “purchased the bud”, SOMEBODY HAD A COPY. The reason all this stuff is coming out now is because puff got too big for his britches and they knocced him down. With Cosby he was punished every time he tried to purchase a major cable network to make it a blac entertainment network. Even with simple things like diddy launching his own blac network and naming it “revolt”. Hov would NEVER do some shit like that and tho it seems minor I’m SURE the elites take notice. And when you add on whatever else he’s done to “revolt” behind the scenes, like suing the very company that propelled him to “billionaire” status they don’t like that. It’s like when Kaepernic took the knee. The owners as a whole came together even tho they didn’t all have a problem with Kaep doing it. when the elites have had enough, they come together to decapitate you in front the world just to prove that your “followers” that you are mortal. We all know diddy did this shit and like wit kels, THE INDUSTRY BEEN KNEW. When it’s time to make an example, that’s exactly what they do. With kels you had his associates on film in the “Surviving” documentary admitting to being apart of a trafficcing ring. They admitted to waiting outside the schools and piccing up the girls. They admitted kels wasn’t smart enough to book a flight plan so they had to fly the girls in and out. His manager admitted to forging govt documents to change Aaliyah’s birthday on her marriage license with kels from 15-18…. But somehow kels is the ONLY person in jail. Diddy is literally in jail on a trafficcing Rico, but outside the white boy who was on the plane with drugs during the raid, diddy is the only person in jail. Epstein was arrested for a trafficcing ring and supplying girls globally to elites and we know what happened to him. Maxwell was arrested because she was the person orchestrating everything and connected the girls with the elites. She survived to be sentenced but somehow none of the people she supplied the girls to were ever exposed. The only people ever arrested for a global billion dollar trafficcing operation involving the highest elites while also having the evidence proving each person who was involved, was Epstein and Maxwell even tho she had a descriptive list with all the names involved. That just shows you that it was never about justice. The were just tying up loose ends once they get tired of getting caught up on loose threads. It’s all a game and once you’re a player you can never retire from the game. Even as a legendary player, The moment you try to leave, the same league you helped build will tarnish your career and make it so that the people who “loved you” from the beginning will never speak your name again. That’s some wicced shit. They allow you to get away with your dirt just so that they have the evidence and can control you til they don’t need you no more
Joe with the phone😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I THINK PEOPLE FORGOT ABOUT "THE RAT PACK"
🫡❤️ same effing thing I ssid. They *BOTH* were just as bad, but Hugh had the *completion for protection* .
We're in a different time.
If white people aren't held accountable how do you explain Weinstein, Epstein, Maxwell and Danny Masterton going to prison?
In the 21st century people are going down.
Umar's Whataboutism reeks of not caring about victims and just wanting to play into his race agenda.
Did hefner have a flavor camp for kids? Where he had custody of rising child stars and had them isolated frm their families? Tf are u talking about?
Wild how people don’t see the difference. Heff parties had a stigma. The expectation was sex. People ain’t expect orgies to go on at a Diddy party.
Right! Nor being drugged and held hostage while being R’ed
cap they been saying for years diddy parties are freaky
They are called "the freak offs". Im sure the party and the freak off was seperate. If you went to the freak off you shouldve knew what to expect. And playboy models werent porn actresses,so all you wouldve expected was nudity.
plus wasn't puffypants drugging people, blowing up cars, hanging people off of balconies
You don't just Fall into freak Offs. Plenty of people said they went to Puff Party n never seen that side
its crazy how people say theirs no difference but then tell you what the difference is
Umar is annoying.
Subliminal Apple ad is crazy 😂Let'em (Tim) cook!
Let’s not skip over the fact that Joe is sneaky as HELL 2:03 😭
Lol😂😂😂😂😂
They even had the Playboy mansion in Beverly Hills Cop 2 AND Hugh Hefner. Crazy
I agree. They waited until he died then had a show called surviving Hefner. They let him slide. Who cares about rich people getting freaky. This is about Cassie
Because it isn't just rich people doing private things. It's the illegal activities involved within them such as the sex trafficking charges being brought up on Diddy which obviously were likely forcing people into pleasing or receiving during these private parties for his guests and friends.
Most people care when they're getting freaky with children. Diddy's youngest (alleged) victim is a 9 year old boy ffs!
Diddy's has alleged drugged and raped men, women and minor (including 9 year old). I don't know what version of Diddy's parties you're talking about.
true : he is white so they gladly let him do this for decades smh...
Trust this isn't about race or getting freaky this is about using your power to force people into doing things they don't want by way of coercion, drugs and violence
Word Mel, still rocking a 13 pro max over here. Still looks brand new!
This is about iPhones??? WTF?
He does not have a microphone.... the shade 😂😂
I would say Dr. Umar has no clue what he is talking about in this case…. Unless he is speaking from experience and attended both parties 🤔
I doubt he was at the Playboy's.
The comparison was totally fair…..
I apologize, but there's a HUGE difference between Diddy and Hefner parties. Waay different
What's the difference actually?
Name one
@@Yaro79raping 9 year olds
@@rௐண we haven't heard of Hefner forcing them women's to do something strange for a piece of change, Honeycomb used his power to force,coerce,drug and violate people using violence as a tactic, those are the difference's
@@rௐண just one example: Hefner gots power (full power) Diddy has money and influence.
Y’all steady Tryna make Umar look bad DROP THAT INTERVIEW 😂😂
Mfs NEVER hold black accountable
They only hold light skin brother who doing better than them accountable even when they didn’t even do anything 😂
lol we always hold ourselves accountable .. we the only people that do it.. everybody else hide their rich evil people
@@gzup8678 🤡
@@gzup8678 🤡
@@gzup8678 We The ONLY people they hold ourselves to Higher Standards. What other group of people seeking All their celebrities locked up
Ish face when they clowned him about the Genius Bar was pure kindergarten
Cassie told them (authorities) everything &
we saw the hotel footage.
We don’t have footage of Hugh kicking women in hotels. Cassie did this to Diddy .. not liquor companies lol
simple and plain...
You have testimony of women talking about Hugh and the playboy mansion though. Do you not believe them?
I ain’t gon hold you. All I hear is people being present, and CHOOSING to remain silent. I said what I said.
This umar dude needs to go. He breeds hate through separation and judgment
ROFL pick up a history book
the revolt boyz lmao🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Joe definitely on them tapes
9 year olds dude....
Not real
Exactly! They're acting like children aren't involved in these "Freak off" parties. WTF is wrong with them?
@@artvandelayRFCWere you there?
@YoureNotThatGuy-777 No. I'm too old for Diddy.
It's call sensationalism my guy
These people purposely ignore the lawyer press conference that took place? We comparing play boy parties to a man who rated 9 year old boys? Give me a break
The fact that I’ve done what Joe did is hilarious 😂😂😂
Umar got a new health and wellness retreat yall- you will get his health and amazing figure if you go! O and this man is behind on child support so make sure you do the retreat so he can keep telling the judge his money is tied up in a non-existent school etc
Dont see yall talking about dan Schneider
This is not a conspiracy. It was just a different time and era. If Heffnar was doing this in the 2020s he would've been prosecuted too. It's not complicated. Me Too movement has shifted the culture.
For sure
Prosecuted for what?