To this day, I'm genuinely convinced NRS made MK11 Mileena extremely weak on purpose cause they were just that sick of all the harassment her fanbase was giving out.
honestly fair, i feel bad for nrs (at that time, not now because mk is going down the toilet) but at the time that was just unjustified fucking gooners man
@@NeonAngel2002even Lostygirl, one of the most prolific Mileena players in the MK community admitted Mileena was bad in MK 11. Mileena sucks in that game.
@@kzakulenga5138 No she wasn't. MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
@@ciciad2010 No she wasn't. MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
Gotta respect Ed Boon and company for putting Mileena in MK11 after getting constantly harrased by her fanbase, only to make her one of the worst characters in the game. The ultimate troll move. Mad respect.
Mileena being low-tier in MK11 felt like the most passive Aggressive thing to me. I can’t promise you that if I was in the developers shoes and I was constantly getting death threats over a video game character that I wouldn’t make her the worst character in the game out of spite. I’d probably have made her exclusive to the stadia version Just to rub it in.
With all I’ve heard about “constant death threats” there should be a mountain of evidence to support their existence. I think y’all might be exaggerating...
MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
Jade's moveset in MK9 is so fun to watch, like, I think it was very well executed visually. Shame that her character is not competitively viable, but I do have a lot of fun playing as her.
Jade is my favorite female character in MK, but NRS just doesn't like her. She's either completely missing from every other game or she's low to mid tier at best. In MK 11 she also had the most boring play style of all.
She wasn't bad though. MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
How about a top list of the most consistent Bad Match Up in MK? Not the Worst match up of every game, but the characters that tend to be weaker than other the most. I think it would be fun
Funny how Shang Tsung's competitive peaks are arguably Deadly Alliance and MK11 He's too simple in the MK3 era, when even some of the mid tiers have at least some crazy sauce (looking at you, UMK3 Stryker)
Unless you were there you wouldn’t understand HOW TOXIC the mileena fan base was in mk11, in my personal opinion making her low tier was deserved karma for how they treated Daddy Boon
I love videos like this, MK Meta, and the Competitive History videos on your channel, they always keep me coming back again and again. I usually end up watching them a few times, especially if they’re on the longer side or cover every game. Great job as always, glad to hear you’re feeling better :)
Mileena is my favorite MK character and as much as I wanted her to be added, the rabid side of the fanbase made me so genuinely upset. Part of me wishes she wasn't added, because what lesson does that teach those fans? If you're toxic enough and threaten devs enough you get what you want?
NRS/WB planned to have Mileena in MK11 from the get go, they didn't add her because the rabid stans harassed them, she would've make it regardless. But yes the Mileena stans were BEYOND obnoxious, and because how stupid people on the interent are and don't understand how game design actually works, they actually take it as the wrong message
To call what the mileena fans did online a " social media push" is a drastic understatement. They single-handedly made me hate her as a character because of their actions.
@@windebiesteultima3317to the people who were toxic sure but to regular fans it's not, think NRS needs to do better when it comes to making characters feel consistent
y’all are dramatic af about mileena fans but nobody brings up the Reiko fan that threatened to SA a dev’s child. or when someone named their daughter Mileena & an anti said their kid should die. never saw a mileena fan threaten anyone’s life y’all just think they were annoying & wanna believe they bullied the devs into adding her when she was already in the files since release. (Like Jade in MK1)
A bit surprised you didnt spoke of Scorpion in OG Mortal Kombat, as he and Sub-Zero were the most popular characters of the game, and both sucked, but Scorpion did more than nobody else due to his highly unsafe projectile and his buggy Teleport Punch that sometimes just didnt worked.
Mileena is my second favorite kharacter in the series, and even though I wasn't one of those people that harassed the devs to add her to MK11, I still suffered the consequences of having to play a sugar-free version of her. My first and forever favorite is Skarlet. I will never buy an MK game if she's not in it.
What is it with everyone wanting their favorite old games to be rereleased? Just boot up your 360/ps3 and play it man, the company doesn’t need to invest millions remaking a game that’s not that old
@@Heavymetalthunda3Not that old?? It’s over 10 years old, also wanting a remaster is valid, it would look better, and perform better booting up your PS3 or Xbox 360 isn’t that simple those consoles aren’t easy to come by and if you still have one it’s pretty old, most people don’t have one nowadays, and it can be pricey to find one, idk how you can just say that like playing this game on PS3 instead of playing it on PS5 would be ideal
I know this is supposed to be a mortal Kombat video but I have to call you out for how happy you have made me for using music from the fighting game Evil Zone!!!! the soundtrack you're using in the introduction of the video is one of the characters theme songs!!! Keiya i believe!!!
Sadly Jade always been low to mid. As someone who has a bo staff as her default attacks you would think she would have fast mixups with reach, but nope.
Mileena was absolutely not a bottom tier character, far from it. The problem she faced was the time frame she came out. There was already a clear top5 competitively and the tournament scene was pretty established on the already top5 characters because they were all so clearly better than anyone else. I think if she had released much earlier, she would have seen her fair share of tournaments. She has one of the best projectiles in the game and her command grab gave a ton of oki, creating 50/50 scenarios. She didn't have great lows or overheads, but once she lands one command grab, time to guess strike/throw. Ask Foxy about this character.
Why? I'm not part of that scene at all, but they're the ones who are keeping fighting games alive. I'm not rushing out to buy the latest MK release nor am I following the tournaments or trends5.
As a lifelong Mileena player, when I saw that she wasn’t in mk 11, I simply didn’t buy the game, I didn’t harass anyone, didn’t send any threats, I just didn’t give them any money…Not every mileena player is rabid. When she was added, that is when I purchased the game and despite her being underwhelming, I mastered her and I MAKE her look good. I like a challenge so her not being the best was ok for me..makes every win feel well earned
I was expecting subzero from mk1 to be on here, but mkda makes sense lmao. I hope they make mk1 sub's b3,4 cancellable into ice klone, how do you think that would change his play, ketchup?
Mk1 would have to go to Scorpion without the use of the kameos. - No overhead or low; specials - no safe regular specials on block - the 1 safe special: amp teleport cancel He's a catch your opponent whiffing character.
MK11 Raiden was pretty weak, very disappointing. Still crazy how those insane Mileena fans threatened Boon if she didnt show up in MK11....Yeah being sick is never fun. Glad you're better.
You explain well why these characters were bad, but it was left a bit unclear why they were popular. I can make some educated guesses based on your explanations, but I was left wondering why these characters were used that much if they really were that bad.
The vast majority of players don’t care about competitive viability, and a character’s competitive potential doesn’t matter when you just wanna play the game for fun
Surely yes, but I would've appreciated if the video went more into detail about the fun aspects of the characters, the lore or any other possible reasons that would explain the popularity.
To this day I'm still surprised there was somewhat of a competitive scene for 3D MK. MK always had an troubled history with the competitive FGC, but during that time 3D MK was completely dismissed and just seen as the dumb mindless fighting game for casuals.
I’ll happily break anybody down to the bone gristle with Sub-Zero in MKDA.. how you show him powerup, not mention that along with stabbing opponent which drained health even quicker.. SubZero combos are sublime in that game Jade in MK9 has been one of my top fighters too haha, rather zoning attacks, rush downs, defense an counters her bo staff an glaive with green kick an ability to have projectiles pass thru green barrier.. her combos are so nice in my opinion anything close try to end with her throws!
Deadly Alliance Sub-Zero's weapon had all his damage, throwing it away made him even worse, he didn't have a way to guarantee a powerup and even if he did you HAD to get a FULL combo without getting hit to get any use out of it. 9's Jade had absolutely garbage damage, a couple generic specials can't save a character.
I'll be honest, if Mileena had been top tier in MK11 I'd be pretty darn miffed because of how obnoxious the Mileesimps had been going about their pet-peeve. It also provided a shibboleth of whether people actually like the character or whether people just want easy MUs.
Honestly the Mileena wanters deserved to be as annoying as possible to want her back. Why would NRS refuse to make one of the most popular characters playable in the base roster or DLC? MK11 already suffered from having one of the worst ever character rosters and for some reason the devs already omitted many other fan favorite characters. If Reptile or Ermak fans were as loud and annoying as Mileena fans then maybe we could have had them as playable characters instead of just a glorified cameo in Shang Tsung's move set.
Deadly Alliance Sub-Zero was not bad, he was mediocre but not bad. Dragon was good, cold shoulder and the shake were good and his kori blade had decent range.
@PNDKM i especially like how Shang is used to open a sequence with a morph and finish it off after demorphing And that morph as I seen was often times sub zero, reptile rarely ermac. Any 2 match where he selected Shang was pretty much his win
This is a mk channel, not a channel that only focuses on the latest game. There's a million other channels that do gameplay etc for MK1, but our channel will always be about legacy.
U forget scorpion he was always mid to high low tier. The only time he's literally broken and at the top of the tier list is MKA, and now in mk1, he's literally the worst character in the game without ferra, and im a scorpion main and a fan of scorpion. Scorpion deserves a better or a buff, imo.
3 umk 3 trilogy would like to prove otherwise Her stomps an throes were broken MK9 Shiva is my best an favorite of them all, love the powered up teleport stomp grab combo damaging!!
MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
The fact they couldnt just get an asian guy to play facemaskless Sub Zero from MK3 will always bother me. Or at leaet a guy with black hair. Why get a blonde guy?
To this day, I'm genuinely convinced NRS made MK11 Mileena extremely weak on purpose cause they were just that sick of all the harassment her fanbase was giving out.
That, and how busted she was in MKX. I still have nightmares about Ethereal 😒
honestly fair, i feel bad for nrs (at that time, not now because mk is going down the toilet) but at the time that was just unjustified
fucking gooners man
And I don’t blame them
They got death threats. I don’t blame em
And the Sub-Zero fans too
mileena in MK11 is the equivalent to a 'shut up ring'
"jfc here's your precious character, enjoy never playing her because she sucks" 😂😂
She didn’t suck though, I didn’t think she was that bad and I still enjoy playing as her in MK11
@@NeonAngel2002even Lostygirl, one of the most prolific Mileena players in the MK community admitted Mileena was bad in MK 11. Mileena sucks in that game.
@@NeonAngel2002she was bottom 3.
@@kzakulenga5138 No she wasn't. MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
@@ciciad2010 No she wasn't. MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
I like the Jade segment footage started with her vs Reptile on Dead Pool, for maximum green.
I reminded of the Smoke Medic video
Gotta respect Ed Boon and company for putting Mileena in MK11 after getting constantly harrased by her fanbase, only to make her one of the worst characters in the game.
The ultimate troll move. Mad respect.
Not really. Half the roster was just as boring.
Mileena being low-tier in MK11 felt like the most passive Aggressive thing to me. I can’t promise you that if I was in the developers shoes and I was constantly getting death threats over a video game character that I wouldn’t make her the worst character in the game out of spite. I’d probably have made her exclusive to the stadia version Just to rub it in.
With all I’ve heard about “constant death threats” there should be a mountain of evidence to support their existence. I think y’all might be exaggerating...
@@lordtrigon1733 you want evidence then go do some searching.
MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
Jade's moveset in MK9 is so fun to watch, like, I think it was very well executed visually. Shame that her character is not competitively viable, but I do have a lot of fun playing as her.
Jade is my favorite female character in MK, but NRS just doesn't like her. She's either completely missing from every other game or she's low to mid tier at best. In MK 11 she also had the most boring play style of all.
@@arch5701she was one of the best in MK11 tho
Honestly after the shitshow Mileena fans did for the entirety of 11’s lifespan, it was 100% deserved
And now the Sub-Zero fandom is next 😈
She wasn't bad though. MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
@@RoyArkonYou obviously played at a low level then.
@@Euro.Patriot Nope
0:30 man I miss when the ground freeze move just makes the enemies do the slip animation instead of getting frozen or stuck
How about a top list of the most consistent Bad Match Up in MK?
Not the Worst match up of every game, but the characters that tend to be weaker than other the most. I think it would be fun
Funny how Shang Tsung's competitive peaks are arguably Deadly Alliance and MK11
He's too simple in the MK3 era, when even some of the mid tiers have at least some crazy sauce (looking at you, UMK3 Stryker)
Unless you were there you wouldn’t understand HOW TOXIC the mileena fan base was in mk11, in my personal opinion making her low tier was deserved karma for how they treated Daddy Boon
I still love the fact that Mileena stans got their wish with the worst iteration of her. They did deserve it though
Good to see you back in spirits,mate. Here's going to see a new feature in a Character's competitive history soon!
I love videos like this, MK Meta, and the Competitive History videos on your channel, they always keep me coming back again and again. I usually end up watching them a few times, especially if they’re on the longer side or cover every game. Great job as always, glad to hear you’re feeling better :)
Mileena is my favorite MK character and as much as I wanted her to be added, the rabid side of the fanbase made me so genuinely upset.
Part of me wishes she wasn't added, because what lesson does that teach those fans? If you're toxic enough and threaten devs enough you get what you want?
baraka is one of my faves and him not being in mkx made me pissed off. where were the baraka fans then?
NRS/WB planned to have Mileena in MK11 from the get go, they didn't add her because the rabid stans harassed them, she would've make it regardless. But yes the Mileena stans were BEYOND obnoxious, and because how stupid people on the interent are and don't understand how game design actually works, they actually take it as the wrong message
To call what the mileena fans did online a " social media push" is a drastic understatement. They single-handedly made me hate her as a character because of their actions.
And her being garbage in the competitive scene was a much deserved middle finger to that “fanbase”
@windebiesteultima3317 yes it was
While I definitely get why I don't think it really means it's every fan just the really hyper ones
@@windebiesteultima3317to the people who were toxic sure but to regular fans it's not, think NRS needs to do better when it comes to making characters feel consistent
y’all are dramatic af about mileena fans but nobody brings up the Reiko fan that threatened to SA a dev’s child. or when someone named their daughter Mileena & an anti said their kid should die. never saw a mileena fan threaten anyone’s life y’all just think they were annoying & wanna believe they bullied the devs into adding her when she was already in the files since release. (Like Jade in MK1)
Great video but I need that Liu Kang competitive history at some point 👀
@@xXSonTJXx 🔥
That's gonna be difficult because he's been in way too many games
@@the757general2 been in all games except Deadly Alliance. Only beaten or equalled in appearances by Raiden, Sub-Zero & of course Scorpion.
Love the Top Best/Worst vids, keep it up!
(Also, glad you are over the bug!)😅
A bit surprised you didnt spoke of Scorpion in OG Mortal Kombat, as he and Sub-Zero were the most popular characters of the game, and both sucked, but Scorpion did more than nobody else due to his highly unsafe projectile and his buggy Teleport Punch that sometimes just didnt worked.
Mileena is my second favorite kharacter in the series, and even though I wasn't one of those people that harassed the devs to add her to MK11, I still suffered the consequences of having to play a sugar-free version of her. My first and forever favorite is Skarlet. I will never buy an MK game if she's not in it.
I wish that we get a remaster of MK9 but I don't have high hopes with Nether Realm in this day of age
They can without adding Freddy in it.
@@TheSixteen60 They can always renew Freddy license IP
i don’t think they can cause of the Freddy and Kratos license.
What is it with everyone wanting their favorite old games to be rereleased? Just boot up your 360/ps3 and play it man, the company doesn’t need to invest millions remaking a game that’s not that old
@@Heavymetalthunda3Not that old?? It’s over 10 years old, also wanting a remaster is valid, it would look better, and perform better booting up your PS3 or Xbox 360 isn’t that simple those consoles aren’t easy to come by and if you still have one it’s pretty old, most people don’t have one nowadays, and it can be pricey to find one, idk how you can just say that like playing this game on PS3 instead of playing it on PS5 would be ideal
The idea of a (previous game's) boss character being low tier, e.g. MK3 Shang Tsung or MK11's Shao Khan, it always shocks me, mainly for lore reasons.
I know this is supposed to be a mortal Kombat video but I have to call you out for how happy you have made me for using music from the fighting game Evil Zone!!!! the soundtrack you're using in the introduction of the video is one of the characters theme songs!!! Keiya i believe!!!
Great video. Thank you
Truly appreciate your kontent guys. Wishing yall the best!
I love Evil Zone's OST
Keiya theme I recognized immediately lol
Sadly Jade always been low to mid. As someone who has a bo staff as her default attacks you would think she would have fast mixups with reach, but nope.
deception really was the only game that made her actually viable
@@ohandthefracking i fell like both of yall completely missed MK11
@@ElectricNikkiGamesshe was just a bad zoner in mk11
@@ElectricNikkiGamesyou realize that she was a bad zoner in 11 right
She was a top 10 character in MK11.
Mileena was absolutely not a bottom tier character, far from it.
The problem she faced was the time frame she came out. There was already a clear top5 competitively and the tournament scene was pretty established on the already top5 characters because they were all so clearly better than anyone else.
I think if she had released much earlier, she would have seen her fair share of tournaments. She has one of the best projectiles in the game and her command grab gave a ton of oki, creating 50/50 scenarios. She didn't have great lows or overheads, but once she lands one command grab, time to guess strike/throw.
Ask Foxy about this character.
I was main jade and thought ive had skill issue.
5:00 that damage is soooo sad, omg
Mk has to stop catering to the competitive scene/pros which only make up 3% of the player base
Why? I'm not part of that scene at all, but they're the ones who are keeping fighting games alive. I'm not rushing out to buy the latest MK release nor am I following the tournaments or trends5.
A long with Cyrax, Sub-Zero and Scorpion they are always up or down. Rarely in the middle
As a lifelong Mileena player, when I saw that she wasn’t in mk 11, I simply didn’t buy the game, I didn’t harass anyone, didn’t send any threats, I just didn’t give them any money…Not every mileena player is rabid. When she was added, that is when I purchased the game and despite her being underwhelming, I mastered her and I MAKE her look good. I like a challenge so her not being the best was ok for me..makes every win feel well earned
2:31 an answer to this is that using various high tiers abilities would make watching the fight more entertaining.
Actually glad Mileena was dreadful, the toxicity from fans demanding her was horrid.
I'm back to request Competitive History of Liu Kang 🙏🏾 Also I'm glad you're back from being sick!
I was expecting subzero from mk1 to be on here, but mkda makes sense lmao. I hope they make mk1 sub's b3,4 cancellable into ice klone, how do you think that would change his play, ketchup?
I will say and Shang in mk3, his throw was one of the coolest looking.
Keep up the work mate❤
I’ve realized that I’m a basic bitch and usually love playing Scorpion and Sub-Zero whether they’re good or not lol
Same lmao
Especially Sub
Mk1 would have to go to Scorpion without the use of the kameos.
- No overhead or low; specials
- no safe regular specials on block
- the 1 safe special: amp teleport cancel
He's a catch your opponent whiffing character.
You have no idea how much I love hearing Kakurine's theme out in the wild like that ❤
Feel the mystical
MK11 Raiden was pretty weak, very disappointing. Still crazy how those insane Mileena fans threatened Boon if she didnt show up in MK11....Yeah being sick is never fun. Glad you're better.
Johnny was always at a minus in the face of a whiff or blocked move in MK4.
can you make a video addressing the rumor that mk1 is done?
One mistake made in the video. MK4 wasn't Johnny Cage's return in MK. He returned in MKT which was the second upgrade to MK3.
You explain well why these characters were bad, but it was left a bit unclear why they were popular. I can make some educated guesses based on your explanations, but I was left wondering why these characters were used that much if they really were that bad.
The vast majority of players don’t care about competitive viability, and a character’s competitive potential doesn’t matter when you just wanna play the game for fun
The video assumes you already know why those are popular, so I can see why it's a bit unclear for newcomers.
Surely yes, but I would've appreciated if the video went more into detail about the fun aspects of the characters, the lore or any other possible reasons that would explain the popularity.
To this day I'm still surprised there was somewhat of a competitive scene for 3D MK. MK always had an troubled history with the competitive FGC, but during that time 3D MK was completely dismissed and just seen as the dumb mindless fighting game for casuals.
I hope to see competitive history of Shang Tsung.
As a Shang Tsung player in MK11, I second this.
Babe wake up, new pndk&m video
i'm surprised you didn't put subzero from mk1 in here
Sub got buffed he’s good now
Welcome back 💪🏾
I’ll happily break anybody down to the bone gristle with Sub-Zero in MKDA.. how you show him powerup, not mention that along with stabbing opponent which drained health even quicker.. SubZero combos are sublime in that game
Jade in MK9 has been one of my top fighters too haha, rather zoning attacks, rush downs, defense an counters her bo staff an glaive with green kick an ability to have projectiles pass thru green barrier.. her combos are so nice in my opinion anything close try to end with her throws!
Deadly Alliance Sub-Zero's weapon had all his damage, throwing it away made him even worse, he didn't have a way to guarantee a powerup and even if he did you HAD to get a FULL combo without getting hit to get any use out of it. 9's Jade had absolutely garbage damage, a couple generic specials can't save a character.
I'll be honest, if Mileena had been top tier in MK11 I'd be pretty darn miffed because of how obnoxious the Mileesimps had been going about their pet-peeve. It also provided a shibboleth of whether people actually like the character or whether people just want easy MUs.
All ill say is Kitana on top 🔥
I think she managed to stay the kombo queen throughout most of the games shes been in
Ah MK9 Jade. The anti-zoner with a losing matchup against the best zoner in the game.
Is shang tsung had at least a launcher like striker/ermac that allows you to follow up with his ground projectiles he'd be damn good
Not a mortal kombat game per say but Scorpion from injustice 1 is definitely a case of this happening
Why MKDA's Sub Zero had power-up, let alone the worst in the game is beyond me
Shao Kahn was surprisingly too bad in 3D Era games. even weaker than Kobra and Shujinko
Evil Zone OST??? Let's go!
Considering Scorpion is the poster child for MK, it's funny how awful he was in the original.
We will add sub zero (mk1) to this list in a couple of years come back to this
Good list. Surprised MK2 Reptile didn't make the list. Absolutely an iconic look but was total butt cheeks in MK2 😂🤷♂️
Such a shame for Mileena in mk11. She looks and moves so cool that I wish it was just decent at least.
Mk11 mileena was relegated to being a subpar zoner because she shot 2 projectiles by default which broke all armour, sad everything else sucked tho 😢
Honestly the Mileena wanters deserved to be as annoying as possible to want her back. Why would NRS refuse to make one of the most popular characters playable in the base roster or DLC?
MK11 already suffered from having one of the worst ever character rosters and for some reason the devs already omitted many other fan favorite characters.
If Reptile or Ermak fans were as loud and annoying as Mileena fans then maybe we could have had them as playable characters instead of just a glorified cameo in Shang Tsung's move set.
Competitive episode when?
I thought 3 Shang Tsung was good because he could morph.
Deadly Alliance Sub-Zero was not bad, he was mediocre but not bad. Dragon was good, cold shoulder and the shake were good and his kori blade had decent range.
I've watched ALI using shang in umk3 , and that was faaaaar from low tier.
It's possible for people to be really good with less powerful characters. I love watching detroit play shang as well
@PNDKM i especially like how Shang is used to open a sequence with a morph and finish it off after demorphing
And that morph as I seen was often times sub zero, reptile rarely ermac.
Any 2 match where he selected Shang was pretty much his win
2:19 toasty!
I like how over a year, we barely get MK1 content...
I mean there isn't much to talk about
This is a mk channel, not a channel that only focuses on the latest game. There's a million other channels that do gameplay etc for MK1, but our channel will always be about legacy.
U forget scorpion he was always mid to high low tier. The only time he's literally broken and at the top of the tier list is MKA, and now in mk1, he's literally the worst character in the game without ferra, and im a scorpion main and a fan of scorpion. Scorpion deserves a better or a buff, imo.
Scorpion was top tier in Deadly Alliance too. I believe he was at least high tier in MKT.
@the757general2 Oh, I forgot about that. Thanks for telling me.
Mk1 sub zero,or as matter of fact,any mk except mk11.
On the other hand, sheeva is mostly unpopular and trash in all her appearances besides mk11 😅 still my girl tho!
She was broken In mkt n64 at least
3 umk 3 trilogy would like to prove otherwise
Her stomps an throes were broken
MK9 Shiva is my best an favorite of them all, love the powered up teleport stomp grab combo damaging!!
WB sux
Eh Melina has always sucked. And was just a clone of the cloned ninjas
Gameplay wise she was a nightmare in 2 and Gold and 10.
MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
Asking for Johnny Cage’s competitive history
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12 seconds ago? Say no more we tapping in
3:00 oh yeah, sure, believe the propaganda.
A bit off topic, but I wonder how Mustard is dealing with all the Kendrick Lamar *MUSTARD* memes lately? 🤣
bruh
The fact they couldnt just get an asian guy to play facemaskless Sub Zero from MK3 will always bother me. Or at leaet a guy with black hair. Why get a blonde guy?
Both Sub-Zeros has always had black hair.
I don't care about competetive bs. Games are meant to be fun.
mortal kombat as a series is bad competitively lmao
I loves it tho
Debatable
It’s better than dbfz and street fighter easily those games are highly simple and just aren’t good
@ That is just a straight up lie 💀
@@eggyjames393 Ironically after trying Street fighter 5 I find It harder to play than ANY mortal Kombat.
I played a lot of mileena in ranked mk11 she might be bad but she was fun