Winning MS500 VS Fly Superlace X Boxing Gloves- COMPARISON REVIEW/ HAS FLY SURPASSED WINNING?
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Thanks for watching my videos and supporting this channel! Whether you're background is Boxing, MMA, or traditional Martial Arts, I hope my reviews help give you the answer your looking for to make informed choices. Whether it be needing to purchase new boxing gloves, headgear, footwear, I'll do my best to bring you my honest take on the equipment I'm using. Cheers to your continued support!
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9 1/4 " Wide from side of index finger to side of pinky finger
8" Tall from bottom of palm to top of middle finger
11" Closed Fist Circumference - Спорт
Awesome comparison vid. I love your channel
Appreciate it brother!
Great review as always thanks for this one.
No prob
I just got my winnings today and when I opened the package I definitely smell leather but after smelling the glove surface I don't get any smell. After close examination I found out that the leather smell comes from the palm side. Therefore I'm 99% sure that winning uses synthetic leather on the hitting surface and real leather on the palm.
Yeah there’s been a debate about winnings being genuine or synthetic leather
Winning with velcro looks so kreepy :)
Great review I think you keep it real and you don’t take sides like other channels on the winning USA website says gloves are made with sintetic leather but on rakuten the vendors advertise gloves as real leather
Appreciate it brotha! I’m just a boxing head and love the equipment that goes with it. If you dig deep enough you can find pros and cons to every type of gear, I’ve met people who LOVE Reyes and can’t afford winning or intend to use them. Then there’s people that won’t touch anything but winning. Then there’s people who are Grant fanatics. Then there’s guys who could care less about the brand and won’t spend more than $80 for gloves but are badass boxers/ fighters. 😂 in the end, it’s really subjective and up to the user. I definitely appreciate the support, the “leather” on winning gloves has always been debatable and a grey area, doesn’t make them less of great gloves, but at least we know what we’re getting right?
Its possible that they've changed the type of leather to cut down on expenses. I ordered some 14oz winnings from Rakuten and im going to have to wait till like january for them to get shipped lol fml but hey I spent a little under 300. There have been some quality changes to winnings newest gloves (the new logo gloves) and they arent for the better
Great video man , I’ve been thinking about getting the fly super loop x but I don’t know wether to get 14oz or 16 oz , I want a glove to spar with and hit the bag to , will the 14s still offer the protection and padding a 16oz glove would ? Or do you think they would hurt your sparring partner ? and is there still plenty room in the hands for the 14oz ?
Hi mate. Boxing clubs in general just allow to spar with a minimum of 16oz. Fly gloves have a bigger hand compartment the bigger the size.
I know this was a year ago but the oz used to be the weight of the horsehair being put into the gloves, that means that the fly is technically more accurate than the winning in weight
That’s true
Thanks for the comparison! May i know which of these 2 gloves have a more compact, smaller hand compartment?
I’d say they about even tbh, maybe the winning by a hair
@@csquaredboxing thank you!
Hey, very nice review. What about their hand compartment? I find Winning 16oz to loose for me and I’m looking for a high quality lace up glove. Are Fly a bit tighter or biger inside? Maybe you could recomend some other brand that is more compact inside?
Fly is maybe a tad snugger
thanks man, just ordered 16oz fly gloves for some sparring. I went with the superloop x (Velcro) though. I will let you know how they turn out.
Nice!
Howd they go
Heard the flys are worse now then they use to be
@@saintsfps5348 they're okay and a little heavier than I'm used to. I use them for sparring and the glove surface is pretty wide which I'm not too thrilled about but I can work with.
@@rightdubz interesting
I have the xs too and since I heard they're worse then they use to be and now different to the premium flys I just ordered the premium gloves so I'll see how they go
What other gloves have you tried and have experience with?
@@danielw8620 don't buy them most likely
I'll tell you what I think of them if you answer a few questions
Have you tried fly gloves before, if so when was this
And are you looking for a soft nice sparring glove or a denser bag glove
I love Winning gloves but those Fly-X gloves are beautiful
They’re both great gloves
I've always been on Winning side.
But to be honest, after i tried a pair of Fly my mind changed.
Ive also contact them and they were helpful and Professional.
The last thing that convinced me was the new custom configurator on the website. Dope!
Question please - great review BTW. When I use many foam padded gloves they tend to glance off the heavy bag, whereas my Winning gloves tend to contact the bag better, stick the punch. I've had gloves bounce or glance off so bad they risked injury from lack of good contact. Do you have any feedback regarding that aspect of FLY vs Winning Thank you!
Fly is slightly more rounded and firmer around the strike surface than winning. It also depends on your punch form, make sure you’re turning over and landing on your knuckles and not the rolled up fingers. With that being said, generally more softer foamed gloves or gloves with padding that flatten out on contact will usually give a much more contacted “feel” if that makes sense.
@@csquaredboxing Thank you!
I’m 5’9 170 pounds should I go 14 or 16 ox with fly? I’m looking for all around training glove for bag/mitts/sparring and prefer a more compact shape. Love your videos thank you
16 for sure
@@csquaredboxing you’re the man thank you for the quick response
Winnings offer slightly more protection but flys way more comfort. Both equally good IMO
Winning is still head and shoulders above fly
@@ronbabunbaunba4833 Why? Just curious as I am looking to get a pair. Thanks
Vlad Shults I feel like flys are softer but not necessarily more protective. I have both and I prefer winning if I had to pick.
great review, had not heard that winning was possibly using a synthetic outer but it looks to be so. all of the winning coaching gear in synthetic.
Thanks man yeah there’s always been a debate
@@csquaredboxing thank you for bringing it up. good review.
Could take a pair to leather shop and see what he experts say.
All of Winning gloves are leather
I have winning white navy and fly x and you are right. They feel and smell the same. I start to think that my winning are synthetic.
Winning’s are definitely real leather, not microfiber synthetic, you can compare the folds of leather at the fingertip area, leather creases, microfiber synthetic kinda rolls, hard to describe but there’s definitely a difference. That being said, microfiber synthetic is definitely harder wearing and will last longer (plus no paint wearing off exposing the bottom leather), you’ll notice the winning wearing down to dark blue/black on parts like the thumb after 6mo or so of use
@@Maximalisms I have been using winning for 2 years now and I can tell that it's definitely a synthetic leather. A boxing review site says the brand is Lorica and it's made in italy but i don't believe them. I believe it's a synthetic but not made in italy, Japanese can make a high quality synthetic leather.
I read somewhere on the internet that winning use sythetic leather for the mass produce gloves. They can use real leather but it's only for custom order.
Hey bro can you tell me if your 14 oz superloop weigh 17.5 oz? Fly says that's the weight before the strap or laces but I think they are wrong.
Lol there bullshitting you so you don’t ask for a refund 😂 send them back and get the correct weight
I love winnings gloves 💯
Hey Carlo, would you buy the Heavy Hitters flare gloves at $150 shipped or the Fly Superloop X velcro gloves for $236 shipped? Is fly X series worth the extra $$$?
Go with the heavy hitters, I prefer them a little more
@@csquaredboxing thanks Carlo, much appreciated
Winning genuine leather is different from the synthetic on the Fly X line gloves. The Fly synthetic is very similar to the synthetic leather Winning used on their headgear.
I have both of these gloves and they don't look or feel the same
which one would you recommend for boxing all around glove? Winning or Fly is better ?
Winning doesn’t use real leather
I can hold myself to wonder that if winning use microfiber leather on the surface and genuine leather on the palm. BTW, there is a brand called salvador they just show a type call X1 which has highly similar look to fly on Instagram. Really wondering how they perform. It maybe a useful for making video
Haven’t heard of them before, do you have a link?
@@csquaredboxing Hi Carlo, I will try to send you a message on Instagram. Thanks for reply
Leonardo zhang sounds good thanks!
Would you say Fly has better punch feedback than Winning due top the flatter punch surface?
I’d say winnjg
are the fly superlace x worth it for beginners? I am very new to boxing and need a glove and was thinking of putting extra money into getting a quality glove that will last me a long time or should I just go for something cheaper
For a beginner I wouldn’t drop that kind of money until you figure out boxing is something you will do long term for fitness or even competitively. There are a lot of great gloves under $100 that will do a nice job like the fairtex bgv9, too boxer win 1 or alien, and fighting sport fury’s to name a few
@@csquaredboxing I do a lot of weight trainning and decided to add in a bit of boxing and was planning on adding bag work into my routine and just keep on learning more. So far I really enjoy it so even if I stopped taking lessons I would at least do bag work after or before weight lifting, which is why I asked if it would be worth it
For the amount of work youre doing a good pair of Sabas Pro Series or Top Boxer Win 1 would be perfect for you, be great quality, and not break the bank.
I have Winning Black Pro fight and they definitely look like leather, you can see the grain and creases on both sides. Maybe its the blue die that makes them look different? By the way, I know you mentioned you sometimes sell your gloves , where do you sell them and where could I make trades? I want to trade my 10 oz winnings , looking to get Fly 16 oz velcro.
Yeah it may be the dye, but the feel of it just seems very close, who knows...I usually sell my gloves on Instagram if I do decide to trim the collection
What would be your top glove picks for kickboxing?
Either Yokkao matrix or venum giant 3.0 which both have a good of Palm padding for parrying punches/ kicks and the flexibility for clinching
csquaredboxing in my opinion yokkao you are basically paying for the fighters that use them, I have yokkoa gloves and twins 14oz, they feel literally the exact same in every way, twins are just slightly more snug
The fly looks even better quality then winning.
I bought a pair of winning last month and another pair this month. The first pair used the 2 different leathers. The second pair I just got actually used the same leather on the inside of the palm and wrist throughout the whole glove where as the first pair I got last month has a different leather on the punch surface and back on the hand and wrist. I bought the lace ups btw.
Obviously I'm happier than I normally am from getting a new pair of Winning boxing gloves
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@@csquaredboxing 100 percent full grain leather. I hope they keep making them that way and it wasn't just that one pair or a few pairs.
@@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667 were they both from the same site or different
Same site
@@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667 damn, u should make a youtube video discussing and showing the differences itd be read cool
I’m about to start boxing what gloves should I get for heavy training?
What’s your budget?
csquaredboxing don’t really have one I been working to save up for equipment but the cheaper the better
A good start is Infinitude Raptor or Harrier gloves which are around $80 or even Sabas Pro Series which are around $120
csquaredboxing I was also looking at the heavy hitter deluxe. Also do you think quick wraps are good or should I use regular wraps
Those are nice gloves as well, start with traditional wrap as they offer better support
I thought the weight of the glove referred to the weight of the padding in the glove not the total weight of the glove. Is a 14oz glove supposed to have 14oz of padding or is the glove supposed to weigh 14oz?
The total weight of the glove... prime example would be fight gloves that have to be on weight but to be sanctioned for a fight. 10 ounce = 10 ounce total glove weight...they don’t remove the padding, weigh it, then put it back in the glove
@@csquaredboxing Ahh ok. I knew they didn't remove the padding that'd be absurd. I always thought it referred to the weight of padding material used in a glove which is why the weight of gloves varied by brand.
Hi can u do the fly vs rival??
Yes will do a comparison video soon
I would like to know this too
What’s your favorite all purpose glove like you enjoy using the most?
Laser Sharp the 30$ everlast gloves they sell at big 5
wheres the winning velcro compaired to the fly velcro?? never made the review for the fly velcro either...
Hopefully soon
Is the leather the only difference between the superlace and the superlace x ?
Yes
csquaredboxing wait so basically the only slight difference would be feel and slight durability, for me as a small ass guy they sound like literally the best gloves in the world for me cause I won’t where them down fast and I have small ass hands so the thumb won’t be a problem (best other than 1v1 lol)
Adding price into the equation
And sorry I’m terrible at wording things
Yeah the leather is definitely better in terms of quality compared to the synthetic versions. Plus it’s unlike any other leather I’ve seen (from Pakistan or mexico) so you’re paying more for something proprietary that Fly uses in their leather gloves. As far as interior liner, foam, and fitment, they’re the same imo
Which one would you recommend for sparring (16oz)
Either one is great
Winning is better than fly if you're looking for sparring partner protection. Fly x is more comfortable though. But they are thinner and softer, you can almost feel your knuckle through the padding.
I definitely get high off my gloves 😬
Lmao no doubt!
Winning uses real leather on the punching surfaces, palmside and thumb as well. the tubeing and the seam beneath the thumb is synthetic leather (same materialas my groinguard) . As far as I can tell.. I have a pair of white winning ms600 from rakuten. And I can asure you my statement because I've been using them for 4 over 4 years. The white coloring has been comming off the sufaces where the friction and impact has been strongest. And you can clearly see the realleather grain and structure beneath it (pale, sandy color-ish) . Also I think it's a bit odd to compare wrist support between the two of them, because the lace up winnings (if properly done) should give you about the same support as those flys.
keep up the good work carlos, love xour channel!
Thanks for the support brotha!
Which gloves is better for boxing?
Either one is good, just depends on feel
@@csquaredboxing hey dude I’m just looking for a good gloves for sanda and I don’t really have any experience in buying gloves so I hope you can help me with that and recommend a gloves for me and I’ll be thankful❤️
These both pillow gloves?
No
Which of the two has better knuckle protection?
Equal tbh
How do I order to United States?
By ordering to the United States
aren't the flys vinyl ????
“Synthetic leather” so I’m sure some kind of vinyl-like material or close to it
csquaredboxing made that comment before I saw u say they Wer synthetic in the vid lol but I think winnings are real leather judging by the way my winnings have aged .. they’ve aged like leather n haven’t cracked the way vinyl gloves do
2 different gloves winning are Velcro and like you know Velcro is more bag gloves /training lace up is a sparring gloves.the fly super lace vs winning Ms 500 or 600
I agree somewhat, just because the closure system is different doesn’t make it a completely different glove. The padding in the velcro and lace up version (at the same weight of 14 ounces) is exactly the same. The same with the hand compartment. Only difference is one is lace up and one is velcro, so the lace up offers better wrist support and people prefer to use them for sparring so they don’t cut their partner. But to say they’re completely different gloves I don’t agree with, maybe preferred to be used for different types of training. There’s many sparring gloves out there that are velcro closure as well.
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the grain looks nothing alike
You blind ?
I don't feel like its a fair review when one brand is lace up and the other is velcro.
They just don't fit or feel the same.
Winning are not genuine leather.
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Bro your winning gloves look like counterfeits…
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fly is not leather !!
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
Not much cattle in Japan
Just wagyu
@@csquaredboxing Interesting..
Уже цветё в этом случае мы должны были бы быть вместе с ними но они могут стать причиной появления у неё проблемы в отношениях с мужем или родственниками и в этом году и её можно и в этом году в этом случае мы должны быть уверены в этом году и в будущем
The x model is not real leather plus it is made in china
Oh really? We didn’t know that, thanks!!
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