But may i know for the final fight (confrontation) why should we squad up? Even tho my teammate help me to defeat my lich and i vanquished her, they dont get any extra reward too right?
Another thing I've observed in hunting both a Lich and Sister solo with the new murmur system is the following: - The number of Hounds that tend to spawn is less then Thralls but the amount they provide to discovering murmurs is much higher - This in turn makes Sister much more faster to complete then Kuva liches That being said, the changes to the murmur system in general makes it possible to complete a Kuva lich and Sister within the same day, particularly if you are doing all of this solo. Having a team of course would greatly expedite this process even further. Overall, significantly less grindy and tedious.
The Sister that really brought challenge to my life was my second one, Ciranni Quiro. She was using a magnetic Diplos, which meant that my energy would get reset back to zero. And the shields, the Hounds, she was just a major pain in the rear.
For anyone struggling to get the health of their Sister or their Hounds down (as I did with my first one), here's a trick that helps significantly in bringing down their defenses: Use the skills from the Operator's Unairu skill tree. They will let you strip the shields and a good portion of the armor from whichever combination of parts the Hounds may have, as well as helping with the Sister during any encounter you may have.
A note: you can actually drop Oull while defeating a lich or a sister when you defeat them on one of the planets, before they escape to the RJ mission(I've obtained one this way), and requiem ultimatums also drop from both sisters and liches. Another thing to note is that sometimes the ultimatum bugs out and doesn't spawn your lich, this happened to me yesterday, unsure what the reason is.
@@starstreakalex7372 Indeed. It actually came over from the Lich system, as the first planet taken over was always the hardest. Once the lich ranked up once, all acquired territory would drop to follow suit. Glad it's only one planet at a time now. Makes it much easier to focus.
In Hydra I've been getting my zenith granum crown back every time. Also, I feel like it's best to knock your sister away a few time so she'll just leave, instead of doing first requiem tries and leveling her up before I even know the first requiem.
I use Acheron myself. And one thing I've learned doing liches nearly non-stop for the last few weeks, always take the chance. You have a 1 in 8 chance to get the first one, then a 1 in 7 for the second and so on. If it's not the right one then no harm, no foul. It's better to get murmurs from a failed attempt than to get them to level up and get nothing. This also helps you get a high level adversary if you plan on keeping them as an ally.
@@ViceFielder They keep their ranks when converted, but it's impossible for you to raise their rank once you convert them. Meaning if you plan to do so, you always want to make them Rank 5
One thing I noticed is you forgot to bring up if you run on the higher levels for the sister you can recycle your crowns because the treasurer will spawn
Use the Xoris, and stack as much extra damage mods on it as possible. Then just spam throw and heavy attack combos, and as long as you don't die you'll manage to kill at minimum 25 specters before time runs out. You don't even need to use a potato on the Xoris for this.
Doesn't matter, bring the xoris and stay on the move. Kill at least 3 errant specters then throw-heavy attack their Specter particles with the xoris to fully charge it. A throw-heavy attack with a fully charged xoris will kill all errant specters in its radius instantly, ignoring health, armor, and shields. Charge your xoris using the specter particles from everything you just killed and repeat. Your choice of warframe literally does not matter for handling granum void.
For the benefit of any other latecomers, just want to emphasize this point; no hyperspecialized ten billion plat build will be able to outdo an unmodded Xoris, from what I've seen and tried. Mesa is the only one who even comes close, and she can't free the Solaris U captives without the Xoris anyway. So you'd be giving up bonus time in order to go slower. You just need a frame capable of taking a few hits; that's basically it.
I've found that once the Sister has reached Level 4 (though it may be sooner, I still need to test), they have the ability to summon specters of the loadout you are using for whichever mission they appear in. It appears to be modded the same way as you are, as well as using the same weapons as you, though I need to test this further. For example, I was facing one that summoned a specter of the Zephyr Prime I was equipped with, and it had the Kuva Zarr I was using. On top of that, the specters can use abilities, so in cases like the one I just mentioned, they can become much more difficult to kill. Using the same example, the Zephyr specter used Turbulence so that I couldn't hit it with any direct shots from any of my guns, leaving me with only melee and hoping that the AoE of my Kuva Zarr would be enough. TL;DR: Be wary of what you equip if your Sister levels up enough.
So for now, if we finding squad for murmur. We should type it like “LF LV1 lich/sister farm” to let all members benefits from the progress tgt? And let everyone has the same progress to move on to LV2 345, becuz all are the same planet
Of note, *Nyx trivializes everything about the sister content.* HOUND: Press 4, press 2. Hound cannot hurt or stagger you, has no shiekds, has no armor. I consistently oneshot it at all levels. SISTER: Instantly skip shield phase, full armor strip. Abilities do not work on you. Press 3 and she will focus on other enemies, too. TREASURER: Press 2, wack it with crit and viral. Demolished in seconds. I legit cannot understand why people consider Nyx bad. She is beyond broken at endgame.
@@pedrosian7031 The end game contains enemies with huge armor and shields so Warframes with armor/shield removal are very good. Nyx has one of the best tool for that job so she can excel in high level contents. However, normal level enemies' armor/shield are rarely enough to hinder players. So Nyx struggles to compete against other frames with better damage abilities. It's good that as DE releases more tougher enemies, the more Nyx can utilize her true potential.
@@ymmagwed1362 just go in there and kill the enemy? I've done about 4 I think as Ivara, not a problem. Not even the higher tiered one is a problem. Ivara has a pretty versatile kit. Prowl is particularly useful for survivability and damage. If they can't see you they cant shoot you and you're free to just blast them at your leisure. Do use her augment for prowl through, or its woefully slow moving.
Do you need to have unlocked Neptune on the railjack starchart to confront the sister for final time? I've not done any of railjack starchart. I have intrinsics from joining other people's crew.
But may i know for the final fight (confrontation) why should we squad up? Even tho my teammate help me to defeat my lich and i vanquished her, they dont get any extra reward too right?
If it's for the Sisters, they get parts for creating Hounds. Not to mention it's just a strength in numbers thing, as only people with Sisters can do the final fight.
@@Arcrasis so for normal kuva lich, they had no any extra reward? Only sister can benefits them with parts What about the oull requiem mod? If it drop is it only me that will get it?
Is it me or are the systems just getting more convoluted and confusing and weirdly grindy If a 6 minute information-packed, no BS vid is needed to explain how a single grind cycle....
im having a problem spawning sister(only not on lich) while using chroma with tonkor, done like 7 runs, all success killing 25+ in void but not spawning even 1 sister once. will try to figure it out myself but if there's any info piz help thx orz
Go solo, do the sabotage mission on pluto. Make sure you use the Zenith crown. If that doesn't work I don't know what else to suggest because that's a 100% success rate for me.
Bro! 200% CC on primary Mirage invigorating I hope you land this I got it today DAMN! Is all I can say Base rubico 95% with basic mods no riven now 171% w invigorating just to give u an idea 😉
Do note lads: its way faster to farm murmurs in squads now, due to potential to spawn multiple liches/sisters.
But may i know for the final fight (confrontation) why should we squad up? Even tho my teammate help me to defeat my lich and i vanquished her, they dont get any extra reward too right?
I noticed in PUGs there are a ton of people that refuse to kill their Lich/sister because they don’t want it to level up.
@@fepyo7817 some of the drops are shared though im not quite sure which they were, might be the hound parts
@@faber7507 corrupted holokeys
Another thing I've observed in hunting both a Lich and Sister solo with the new murmur system is the following:
- The number of Hounds that tend to spawn is less then Thralls but the amount they provide to discovering murmurs is much higher
- This in turn makes Sister much more faster to complete then Kuva liches
That being said, the changes to the murmur system in general makes it possible to complete a Kuva lich and Sister within the same day, particularly if you are doing all of this solo. Having a team of course would greatly expedite this process even further. Overall, significantly less grindy and tedious.
The Sister that really brought challenge to my life was my second one, Ciranni Quiro.
She was using a magnetic Diplos, which meant that my energy would get reset back to zero. And the shields, the Hounds, she was just a major pain in the rear.
If treasurer is alive while candidate is downed the weapon doesnt show up. So if u see both you need to kill treasurer first.
no you dont?
Yes that does happen, the weapon doesn't show on top of the candidate's head
For anyone struggling to get the health of their Sister or their Hounds down (as I did with my first one), here's a trick that helps significantly in bringing down their defenses: Use the skills from the Operator's Unairu skill tree. They will let you strip the shields and a good portion of the armor from whichever combination of parts the Hounds may have, as well as helping with the Sister during any encounter you may have.
A note: you can actually drop Oull while defeating a lich or a sister when you defeat them on one of the planets, before they escape to the RJ mission(I've obtained one this way), and requiem ultimatums also drop from both sisters and liches. Another thing to note is that sometimes the ultimatum bugs out and doesn't spawn your lich, this happened to me yesterday, unsure what the reason is.
Venus is actually a higher level, as the first round is always 55-75, than Phobos, which is 50-60. Not sure why, but it's always like that.
same with the liches on earth and mars respectively
@@starstreakalex7372 Indeed. It actually came over from the Lich system, as the first planet taken over was always the hardest. Once the lich ranked up once, all acquired territory would drop to follow suit. Glad it's only one planet at a time now. Makes it much easier to focus.
should have said "if you can not pick up or see the crown that he drops. it means you need to complete the Deadlock Protocal quest first"
In Hydra I've been getting my zenith granum crown back every time.
Also, I feel like it's best to knock your sister away a few time so she'll just leave, instead of doing first requiem tries and leveling her up before I even know the first requiem.
I do that with my sister all the time lol
I use Acheron myself. And one thing I've learned doing liches nearly non-stop for the last few weeks, always take the chance. You have a 1 in 8 chance to get the first one, then a 1 in 7 for the second and so on. If it's not the right one then no harm, no foul. It's better to get murmurs from a failed attempt than to get them to level up and get nothing.
This also helps you get a high level adversary if you plan on keeping them as an ally.
@@Jes9119 the lich keep it's rank when it's converted?
@@ViceFielder They keep their ranks when converted, but it's impossible for you to raise their rank once you convert them. Meaning if you plan to do so, you always want to make them Rank 5
One thing I noticed is you forgot to bring up if you run on the higher levels for the sister you can recycle your crowns because the treasurer will spawn
Can you share some good builds for warframes in each element handling the granum void?
Use the Xoris, and stack as much extra damage mods on it as possible.
Then just spam throw and heavy attack combos, and as long as you don't die you'll manage to kill at minimum 25 specters before time runs out.
You don't even need to use a potato on the Xoris for this.
Doesn't matter, bring the xoris and stay on the move.
Kill at least 3 errant specters then throw-heavy attack their Specter particles with the xoris to fully charge it.
A throw-heavy attack with a fully charged xoris will kill all errant specters in its radius instantly, ignoring health, armor, and shields. Charge your xoris using the specter particles from everything you just killed and repeat. Your choice of warframe literally does not matter for handling granum void.
For the benefit of any other latecomers, just want to emphasize this point; no hyperspecialized ten billion plat build will be able to outdo an unmodded Xoris, from what I've seen and tried. Mesa is the only one who even comes close, and she can't free the Solaris U captives without the Xoris anyway. So you'd be giving up bonus time in order to go slower.
You just need a frame capable of taking a few hits; that's basically it.
Good quick guide
I've found that once the Sister has reached Level 4 (though it may be sooner, I still need to test), they have the ability to summon specters of the loadout you are using for whichever mission they appear in. It appears to be modded the same way as you are, as well as using the same weapons as you, though I need to test this further. For example, I was facing one that summoned a specter of the Zephyr Prime I was equipped with, and it had the Kuva Zarr I was using. On top of that, the specters can use abilities, so in cases like the one I just mentioned, they can become much more difficult to kill. Using the same example, the Zephyr specter used Turbulence so that I couldn't hit it with any direct shots from any of my guns, leaving me with only melee and hoping that the AoE of my Kuva Zarr would be enough.
TL;DR: Be wary of what you equip if your Sister levels up enough.
What are the full benefits of doing the railjack mission in a group?
Nice video & yay for Protea footage
/cries in Switch graphics
you'll get more Hound parts
@@succhar1161 o i c, ty
many players still have trouble dealing with granum void quickly, you should explain how to cheese it and how to use xoris if using non-cheese frames
My on call crewmate gets all 25 kills by herself, don't even bother bringing the xoris. She's 5 combat and 5 endurance, with a built acceltra.
i realy wish they could do something to line up all the liches with the same missions for public i can almost never find more people for my liches
really? i have always had full lobbies so far
How do you get the parazon requem thingy ? So before i do all of this do i need to grind the relic first ?
So for now, if we finding squad for murmur. We should type it like “LF LV1 lich/sister farm” to let all members benefits from the progress tgt? And let everyone has the same progress to move on to LV2 345, becuz all are the same planet
Question how do you kill hounds very quickly?
Magnetic damage type is most suitable, but otherwise just take your biggest stick and hit them with it until they stop moving.
Of note, *Nyx trivializes everything about the sister content.*
HOUND: Press 4, press 2. Hound cannot hurt or stagger you, has no shiekds, has no armor. I consistently oneshot it at all levels.
SISTER: Instantly skip shield phase, full armor strip. Abilities do not work on you. Press 3 and she will focus on other enemies, too.
TREASURER: Press 2, wack it with crit and viral. Demolished in seconds.
I legit cannot understand why people consider Nyx bad. She is beyond broken at endgame.
I find it Hounds' health to be the most annoying comparing to Kuva thralls are more easier to deal with
@@pedrosian7031 The end game contains enemies with huge armor and shields so Warframes with armor/shield removal are very good. Nyx has one of the best tool for that job so she can excel in high level contents. However, normal level enemies' armor/shield are rarely enough to hinder players. So Nyx struggles to compete against other frames with better damage abilities.
It's good that as DE releases more tougher enemies, the more Nyx can utilize her true potential.
Best cheese for sister hunting over all is hildrin
Me:*Learns the first step,*
Do that's why I couldn't get a Queenpin or a sister of Parvos!
whats that build your using on protea?
Good, the progenitor types are the same. Looks like my Nova and Ivara are still going to be my dedicated lich hunters!
How do you do the granum void with ivara? I have mine in the foundry and she's the only one I have as toxin progen.
@@ymmagwed1362 just go in there and kill the enemy?
I've done about 4 I think as Ivara, not a problem. Not even the higher tiered one is a problem.
Ivara has a pretty versatile kit. Prowl is particularly useful for survivability and damage. If they can't see you they cant shoot you and you're free to just blast them at your leisure.
Do use her augment for prowl through, or its woefully slow moving.
Do you need to have unlocked Neptune on the railjack starchart to confront the sister for final time? I've not done any of railjack starchart. I have intrinsics from joining other people's crew.
As with Kuva Lich confrontation, you do not need to open any nodes, you just need to have intrinsics 5 to confront them
I was told that I had to unlock every node in the starchart on steel path level before I could do this! Is that true?
But may i know for the final fight (confrontation) why should we squad up? Even tho my teammate help me to defeat my lich and i vanquished her, they dont get any extra reward too right?
If it's for the Sisters, they get parts for creating Hounds. Not to mention it's just a strength in numbers thing, as only people with Sisters can do the final fight.
@@Arcrasis so for normal kuva lich, they had no any extra reward? Only sister can benefits them with parts
What about the oull requiem mod? If it drop is it only me that will get it?
I wanna see someone speedrun a litch with 3 oull mods
I don't believe it's possible owing to normally being unable to equip two of the same mod.
@@TheKengineer yeah its not, I tried to equip 2 oull mods and it didn't work
HOW DO I USE HER LIKE A KUVA LICH, I don't even know what that means I don't even have a kuva lich!!
where the Caliban
arent you guaranteed a hound but only have a chance to get a hound part? Bc you said it the other way around
He mentioned guaranteed hound, but said nothing about their parts, just that they're drop
Is it me or are the systems just getting more convoluted and confusing and weirdly grindy
If a 6 minute information-packed, no BS vid is needed to explain how a single grind cycle....
Hate railjack...
Eh... To confront the Sisters is very straightforward on the railjack part. Much easier and faster on a public squad
You and me both stranger.
I really dislike having to baby sit some stupid ship. 😐
@@DarkMaidenFlan well in a fully equipped railjack you don't babysit anymore your railjack, the crewteam just destroy everything by their own.
@@MAXANIME512 oh, how do I get mine a crew?
@@DarkMaidenFlan Ticker in Fortuna
I spawn solo with mess
im having a problem spawning sister(only not on lich) while using chroma with tonkor, done like 7 runs, all success killing 25+ in void but not spawning even 1 sister once.
will try to figure it out myself but if there's any info piz help thx orz
Go solo, do the sabotage mission on pluto. Make sure you use the Zenith crown. If that doesn't work I don't know what else to suggest because that's a 100% success rate for me.
@@TheKengineerthanks
I fucking hate these systems. I can't fucking get the murmurs
Bro! 200% CC on primary Mirage invigorating I hope you land this I got it today DAMN! Is all I can say
Base rubico 95% with basic mods no riven now 171% w invigorating just to give u an idea 😉