Easily the best character guide I've seen thus far. So many guides are way too focused on specific tech or are too beginner focused. I don't think I've come out of a character guide feeling like I understand the general gameplan and how to execute the character's wincon until now
Yooo, this is so helpful. I never played a grappler before in SF and while playing World Tour mode I got her command throw and immediately found myself using it constantly. I ran through Ken’s combo trials and decided to give Manon’s a try and ended up falling in love with the moveset and combos. I played some rounds online with her and found myself doing fairly well punishing with her command throws and now I’m hooked and want to switch from Ken main to Manon main so thank you for this thorough and informative guide that isn’t just high level tech and combos.
Thanks for making this! Your streams have already made learning sf6 as my first Street Fighter a lot less intimidating, no doubt this will help too. Much appreciated!
Finally tried sf6 again. Just picked up manon. Was an abel main back in sf4, so i naturally gravitated towards her. Glad to see you picked her up too. This helps alot man so thanks for sharing.
I love how you structured this guide guide. I'm only 10 mins in, and I'm not even sure if I'm maining this character or not, but I love how you focus on discussing the neutral game first to start off with. I would rather learn that as it's always so easy to look into what I can confirm the key buttons into by myself. So thanks for this guide!
Glad this is in my feed at a time where I feel I've hit my ceiling with Manon in Gold 4. Watching this just helps to revise what core things to keep in mind when I get frustrated playing Ken's, Juris, Marisa, Guiles and other frequently popular characters that feel like they can press buttons without a care
It's been 3 weeks since I last commented and I'm happy announce I made it Plat 1 😂 Last 3 days especially since I came back to sf6 from playing strive. I just threw myself into training for DR cancels and used the better Manon buttons more and went on a 6 win streak even. Thanks Strider
This is the best Manon guide I've seen for covering her gameplan and neutral. I've been stalled out in mid Platinum and once I internalize this it should help a lot.
I search every where about in depth guide explanation for Manon. You are the one who probably the best guide I could find. The detail information about spacing, normal and her gameplan are very informative. Definitely will wait for your other great explanation guide. 😃
I needed this ish. Been maining her since she dropped. She’s a lot harder than ppl think. You have to have very good fundamentals to play her and know every matchup. You don’t just get free wins unless your opponent doesn’t respect your 5 Stack.
Thanks for the guide. This is great for a general overview of her game plan and the use cases for all her tools, I think the follow up should look a bit more into the specifics, combo routes, corner carry, counter strategies, etc. Good luck at Evo!
Yo @801 Strider thanks for these videos, really appreciate it, im maining Manon now and want to improve even further. Appreciate the knowledge and tips. Shout out from South Africa, i used to like your Abel in SF4
I just now realized you have a youtube channel... Dude i love your round as Abel against Daigo in usf4, Abel became my main thanks to you. Great to see you are doing well.
It's a really great tutorial. There are many videos teaching how to use manon, but most of them are just teaching for the combos and ask us to gain medel. This is the first in deep video that teach us the game plan of manon and how to do I neutral before I can start those combos. Great thanks to you and hope you could do more videos for manon.
Also, could you please have a guide on how manon should do when having match up with JP, it is disgusting when JP always spam its long range attacks and when I come to the front of JP, I am already half blooded.
Against fireballs, use spin/ballerina slide (never use unsafe jump-ins against players who have reversals or uppercuts)... Luke, Ken, Juri, Guile, Dee Jay, Chun Li, Ryu, Rashid and risky on (characters who use their bodies as projectiles) Honda, Cammy, Blanka, Lily (parry and counter, beware of being predictable by using full toolbox) ZONER with tp: Dhalsim and JP (patience (punish arms/legs after blocking them) and jump-ins only at mid range during fireballs/distortions deployment (no long range combat ever!)) Non-fireball characters: Manon, Marisa, Zangief, Jamie(reversal), Kimberly(simular approach as Cammy, imo) (master footsy, Manon's high-low mix-up(overhead kick at range and ballerina slide), learn opponents' toolboxes and weaknesses) MANON is not striker, she is a ballerina and a judoka. (Balance & passive, self-defense, punish all mistakes opponent makes with a stack, you can't counter attack if you are in the middle of recovery from your attack), get to 5 stacks ASAP! Study fundamentals, opponents, mirror matches (holes in your defenses) -> learn a playstyle you feel comfortable with. Don't be scrub while using Manon. Strider's use of (tomoe nage) down-forward + hk was correctly stated. (Anti-air, wall trap, switches side and your escape from wall traps) also use super lvl1. The suggestions are sound in theory... but people will be surprised by YOUR UNDERSTANDING of Manon's deep toolbox if it is complete. If I have 5 stacks r1 & lose, I am not stressed. Losing with 1 stack is because you are a striker (poor defensive & attacking choices) 3700 damage r2 & r3 cannot be ignored!
Man, SF6 is the first fighting game I tried to get better enough for online, even though I ever liked the genre, I immediately liked manon, even though I hate playing with grapplers. Was having some difficulties on gold rank tho, just yesterday, and I saw this video and my game got better immediately, specially in matchups I had problems with. really amazing guide.
Enjoyed the game plan explanation, great to have your perspective. Just some light feedback, obviously it's a lot more work but for long videos like this would appreciate some timestamps to break it up a bit so it's easier to find the parts you want to review!
Amazing video, I really like the mindset approach rather than the more granular breakdown. Matchup guides would be awesome, and so would a broad oki one (again not going through every single option). Maybe some reviews of your own gameplay where you break down your thinking? Whatever you come up with will be great, thanks again!
Loving the uploads OG. Been watching you and Sf in general since 4 but only trying to actually get good in 6. Manon is the most interesting to me even if she doesnt have the "good" gimmicks.
Awesome vid, love this type of "walk-through" guide rather than just talking frame data / combos. Fills an important niche of "I know what my tools are, now what am I doing with them?"
This guide gave me a few noteworthy pointers. Stuck at 2-3 star Diamond and struggling to break through. Hoping to make Masters. Keep up the quality work Strider!
Thanks for the guide! It helped me get a diamond placement in rank with Manon (where usually I'd place high gold or low platinum with other characters). The focus on normals and gameplan helped. (Though I'd want to learn optimal combos and setups eventually!)
Thanks, man. Im new to fighting games, and tips on gameplan is exactly what I need. I'm playing modern Manon, just hit gold. Im surprised almost nobody uses modern at low ranks. Manon is also a rare guest here. The biggest struggles are Guile and JP, thankfully they are pretty unpopular here too.
Gustavo, can you make a guide about the Manon's defensive options, especially in the corner? I find it particularly difficult to deal with pressure without a reliable reversal. 😅
Thank you for this guide! I came here somewhat desperate because of the difficulties I encounter while playing Manon. Your advice has given me some hope and the desire to improve. Could you offer some advice on managing defense with Manon?
One topic I’d love to hear more about is how to build, and more crucially, practice situational awareness. So often I don’t do an optimal combo bc I wasn’t aware of the meter or my muscle memory takes over and can’t process things in real time.
That just kinda comes with experience/practice honestly. Try going into matches with one specific thing you want to focus on and keep trying to execute that one thing, even if your overall gameplay suffers because of it. You can do casual matches if you’re worried about your rank suffering
This video is great, i feel like i've hit a wall in Diamond 4, i play Modern Manon, so its some buttons i don't have. Although this video has the strategies i feel i needed. I actually found a way to replace HK with her spin kick, i checked the frame data and its comparable. I would love to add you in game to run some sets. Modern manon isn't bad actually i do miss her swan kicks and crouching medium punch though.
I'm playing modern Manon. I'm plat 1. I'm gonna start using the spin kick since I don't have the hk. I'm getting ready to start working towards diamond
You mentioned something that a lot of us scrubs struggle to do: just chill, allow the opponent to make a mistake, then punish. Most of the time, my need to press buttons is what gets me smoked.
I got my experience online in matches ...I probably spent 30mins in practice with her then said ok 👍🏼 let's go. Been having fun learning and doing surprisingly well, granted I have over 34yrs of legacy FG knowledge. Something about her reminds me of VF4:Evo Goh where he has tools but not the best tools and you just have to make the little things work. I just need to incorporate more drive rush things but overall I'm doing fine in neutral. Something with her, at least for me is when I do lose I learn super quick what not to do.
I really enjoyed your less technical approach to explaining the character. There are plenty of tech videos already but not enough lecture or discussion viceos.
I was a doubting Manon player. Then i saw this and it was inspiering and helpful. I need to be better at neutral and i cant cheat. Manon is good. Creating favourable 50/50 is litterary winning
Ah yes. Another grappler to play on the side and complement my main man Zangief. Hopefully this will help me to remember to poke my opponent more often. As thats something i struggle to remember since starting this game recently.
What’s better? Valentina,Tapatio, or Cholula? Any recommendations for tortilla wraps at Walmart? Counting calories past few weeks and would love to know
im a current 3400 luke bronze, but i only played cause peoeple told me he easy to play, i really want to play manon tho she was my first i like how she does the judo drops since i did alot of it in the corps. Would you recommend me learnign her or just stay on luke
Thanks for the useful guide :) I do want to say though can you please stop zooming in on your camera in your post editing lol. It's a bit jarring especially when you're explaining something and showing it but you've zoomed in so we cant see xD
Easily the best character guide I've seen thus far. So many guides are way too focused on specific tech or are too beginner focused. I don't think I've come out of a character guide feeling like I understand the general gameplan and how to execute the character's wincon until now
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Yooo, this is so helpful. I never played a grappler before in SF and while playing World Tour mode I got her command throw and immediately found myself using it constantly. I ran through Ken’s combo trials and decided to give Manon’s a try and ended up falling in love with the moveset and combos.
I played some rounds online with her and found myself doing fairly well punishing with her command throws and now I’m hooked and want to switch from Ken main to Manon main so thank you for this thorough and informative guide that isn’t just high level tech and combos.
Optimals and oki guides next please? This was great ❤
Oh also that thumbnail is goated 😂
Thanks for making this! Your streams have already made learning sf6 as my first Street Fighter a lot less intimidating, no doubt this will help too. Much appreciated!
Finally tried sf6 again. Just picked up manon. Was an abel main back in sf4, so i naturally gravitated towards her. Glad to see you picked her up too. This helps alot man so thanks for sharing.
This is the best SF6 guide I have seen in general. This type of information is what I am looking for and is far and away more useful for learning.
I love how you structured this guide guide. I'm only 10 mins in, and I'm not even sure if I'm maining this character or not, but I love how you focus on discussing the neutral game first to start off with. I would rather learn that as it's always so easy to look into what I can confirm the key buttons into by myself. So thanks for this guide!
Glad this is in my feed at a time where I feel I've hit my ceiling with Manon in Gold 4. Watching this just helps to revise what core things to keep in mind when I get frustrated playing Ken's, Juris, Marisa, Guiles and other frequently popular characters that feel like they can press buttons without a care
I fell you bro. I'm gold 5 on the cusp of platinum, I just need to shore up my combo game is all. Dropped combos feel bad man
It's been 3 weeks since I last commented and I'm happy announce I made it Plat 1 😂
Last 3 days especially since I came back to sf6 from playing strive. I just threw myself into training for DR cancels and used the better Manon buttons more and went on a 6 win streak even. Thanks Strider
That was amazing, thank you very much! Looking forward to more guides from you!
This is the best Manon guide I've seen for covering her gameplan and neutral. I've been stalled out in mid Platinum and once I internalize this it should help a lot.
Thanks for the guide, i was having trouble with stopping cross ups so glad you went over that
I search every where about in depth guide explanation for Manon. You are the one who probably the best guide I could find. The detail information about spacing, normal and her gameplan are very informative. Definitely will wait for your other great explanation guide. 😃
I needed this ish. Been maining her since she dropped. She’s a lot harder than ppl think. You have to have very good fundamentals to play her and know every matchup. You don’t just get free wins unless your opponent doesn’t respect your 5 Stack.
Thanks for the guide. This is great for a general overview of her game plan and the use cases for all her tools, I think the follow up should look a bit more into the specifics, combo routes, corner carry, counter strategies, etc.
Good luck at Evo!
Yo @801 Strider thanks for these videos, really appreciate it, im maining Manon now and want to improve even further. Appreciate the knowledge and tips. Shout out from South Africa, i used to like your Abel in SF4
I just now realized you have a youtube channel... Dude i love your round as Abel against Daigo in usf4, Abel became my main thanks to you. Great to see you are doing well.
Your videos look so polished and well presented. Need more!
It's a really great tutorial. There are many videos teaching how to use manon, but most of them are just teaching for the combos and ask us to gain medel. This is the first in deep video that teach us the game plan of manon and how to do I neutral before I can start those combos. Great thanks to you and hope you could do more videos for manon.
Also, could you please have a guide on how manon should do when having match up with JP, it is disgusting when JP always spam its long range attacks and when I come to the front of JP, I am already half blooded.
This was an amazing tutorial. I’m a Kimberly main and wish i could get a tutorial in this exact format.
Against fireballs, use spin/ballerina slide (never use unsafe jump-ins against players who have reversals or uppercuts)... Luke, Ken, Juri, Guile, Dee Jay, Chun Li, Ryu, Rashid and risky on (characters who use their bodies as projectiles) Honda, Cammy, Blanka, Lily (parry and counter, beware of being predictable by using full toolbox)
ZONER with tp: Dhalsim and JP (patience (punish arms/legs after blocking them) and jump-ins only at mid range during fireballs/distortions deployment (no long range combat ever!))
Non-fireball characters: Manon, Marisa, Zangief, Jamie(reversal), Kimberly(simular approach as Cammy, imo) (master footsy, Manon's high-low mix-up(overhead kick at range and ballerina slide), learn opponents' toolboxes and weaknesses)
MANON is not striker, she is a ballerina and a judoka. (Balance & passive, self-defense, punish all mistakes opponent makes with a stack, you can't counter attack if you are in the middle of recovery from your attack), get to 5 stacks ASAP!
Study fundamentals, opponents, mirror matches (holes in your defenses) -> learn a playstyle you feel comfortable with.
Don't be scrub while using Manon.
Strider's use of (tomoe nage) down-forward + hk was correctly stated. (Anti-air, wall trap, switches side and your escape from wall traps) also use super lvl1.
The suggestions are sound in theory... but people will be surprised by YOUR UNDERSTANDING of Manon's deep toolbox if it is complete.
If I have 5 stacks r1 & lose, I am not stressed.
Losing with 1 stack is because you are a striker (poor defensive & attacking choices)
3700 damage r2 & r3 cannot be ignored!
Underrated comment 👌🏽
Man, SF6 is the first fighting game I tried to get better enough for online, even though I ever liked the genre, I immediately liked manon, even though I hate playing with grapplers. Was having some difficulties on gold rank tho, just yesterday, and I saw this video and my game got better immediately, specially in matchups I had problems with. really amazing guide.
Just discovered you looking for Manon help (stuck in plat) and love the video. The speech bubbles are class.
Nice edit's bro. Also knowledge always godlike
Thanks for this guide, just started sf6 and im digging Manon
I was wondering if you made content and fell onto your channel by accident. I needed to hear this thank you for this guide
Enjoyed the game plan explanation, great to have your perspective.
Just some light feedback, obviously it's a lot more work but for long videos like this would appreciate some timestamps to break it up a bit so it's easier to find the parts you want to review!
Amazing video, I really like the mindset approach rather than the more granular breakdown. Matchup guides would be awesome, and so would a broad oki one (again not going through every single option). Maybe some reviews of your own gameplay where you break down your thinking? Whatever you come up with will be great, thanks again!
I plan on going over a few matchups, most requested ones being JP/Guile
Really love these types of guides. They are sooo valuable. Just to hear how you think etc.
Would love to see one on marisa if you have the time!
This honestly opened up my eyes to st hk. Thank you
Really great tutorial. Love your explanations. Thanks!
Loving the uploads OG. Been watching you and Sf in general since 4 but only trying to actually get good in 6. Manon is the most interesting to me even if she doesnt have the "good" gimmicks.
Awesome vid, love this type of "walk-through" guide rather than just talking frame data / combos. Fills an important niche of "I know what my tools are, now what am I doing with them?"
Love that background music
This guide gave me a few noteworthy pointers. Stuck at 2-3 star Diamond and struggling to break through. Hoping to make Masters. Keep up the quality work Strider!
Excellent I’ve been waiting for this
Thanks for making this! I will subscribe. Hoping to see more Manon content. I have lots of problems against the Guile matchup.
No problem, will get some matchup breakdowns for JP/Guile later on
Great stuff from my favorite Manon to watch hands down. Question: what would you say is her best drive rush check button?
Thanks! St mp or cr mp would be her best imo
Thanks for the guide! It helped me get a diamond placement in rank with Manon (where usually I'd place high gold or low platinum with other characters). The focus on normals and gameplan helped. (Though I'd want to learn optimal combos and setups eventually!)
im glad 801 strider plays manon.
thanks for the guide - the way you break things down and makes a lot of sense going more in depth with the thought process :)
Glad it was helpful!
Amazing guide just what i was looking for
I saw ur match at Evo with Chunli I believe, one of my favourites I remember
great guide. subbed. love watching your streams as well.
Going to lab out Manon as my second character thanks to this guide
I just discovered your channel, loving your content and gameplay. Keep it up, im def here to stay
Great guide! You’re really good at teaching. Thank you.
This was really informative. Thank you!
Thanks, man.
Im new to fighting games, and tips on gameplan is exactly what I need.
I'm playing modern Manon, just hit gold. Im surprised almost nobody uses modern at low ranks.
Manon is also a rare guest here.
The biggest struggles are Guile and JP, thankfully they are pretty unpopular here too.
Gustavo, can you make a guide about the Manon's defensive options, especially in the corner? I find it particularly difficult to deal with pressure without a reliable reversal. 😅
The only "reversal" that I do is the level 2 super, but not always works.
Very nice. Love the edits too
Fantastic guide!
Such a solid insightful breakdown of her netural.
Looking forward to more guides.
Subscribed!
Oh yeah and some matchup guides would be lovely. 😊
Appreciate this, I love the challenge of playing grabblers
@10:12 That’s why they call it a poke! Loving this game. 🔥
Thank you for this guide!
I came here somewhat desperate because of the difficulties I encounter while playing Manon. Your advice has given me some hope and the desire to improve.
Could you offer some advice on managing defense with Manon?
One topic I’d love to hear more about is how to build, and more crucially, practice situational awareness. So often I don’t do an optimal combo bc I wasn’t aware of the meter or my muscle memory takes over and can’t process things in real time.
That just kinda comes with experience/practice honestly. Try going into matches with one specific thing you want to focus on and keep trying to execute that one thing, even if your overall gameplay suffers because of it. You can do casual matches if you’re worried about your rank suffering
This video is great, i feel like i've hit a wall in Diamond 4, i play Modern Manon, so its some buttons i don't have. Although this video has the strategies i feel i needed. I actually found a way to replace HK with her spin kick, i checked the frame data and its comparable. I would love to add you in game to run some sets. Modern manon isn't bad actually i do miss her swan kicks and crouching medium punch though.
I'm playing modern Manon. I'm plat 1. I'm gonna start using the spin kick since I don't have the hk. I'm getting ready to start working towards diamond
Yeah that works , i've made it to master, still using it.@@MrShinTensei
I dont play Manon but I still enjoyed this guide
Amaaaazing guide!!! Thanks a lot
Awesome guide, thanks a lot for making it
Hey this was fantastic. I was an Abel player all of SF4 and skipped SF5. What skills do you think transition well from abel to manon?
I keep hearing this so often, I also was huge into sf4, but skipped sf5 and now here I am! Manon & Guile my mains :)
This is the kind of guide I am always looking for when I pick up a character and they are so damn hard to find
Seems like a good beginner character for someone new to SF6, I'll try her out!
You mentioned something that a lot of us scrubs struggle to do: just chill, allow the opponent to make a mistake, then punish. Most of the time, my need to press buttons is what gets me smoked.
I didn’t even realize that her medium low was so useful. Ive been wayy too focused on trying to hit combos I realize
Thank u very much for this guide, it helps a lot 👍👍
Very good video! Manon is awesome!
I got my experience online in matches ...I probably spent 30mins in practice with her then said ok 👍🏼 let's go. Been having fun learning and doing surprisingly well, granted I have over 34yrs of legacy FG knowledge. Something about her reminds me of VF4:Evo Goh where he has tools but not the best tools and you just have to make the little things work.
I just need to incorporate more drive rush things but overall I'm doing fine in neutral. Something with her, at least for me is when I do lose I learn super quick what not to do.
I really enjoyed your less technical approach to explaining the character. There are plenty of tech videos already but not enough lecture or discussion viceos.
thank you. very informative
I was a doubting Manon player. Then i saw this and it was inspiering and helpful. I need to be better at neutral and i cant cheat. Manon is good. Creating favourable 50/50 is litterary winning
13:53 if Juri's throwing feet at you, your ascension is imminent and you don't have to worry about your pitiful mortal issues anymore.
Ah yes. Another grappler to play on the side and complement my main man Zangief. Hopefully this will help me to remember to poke my opponent more often. As thats something i struggle to remember since starting this game recently.
What a sick guide!
now if i can just figure out how the fuck to get a consistent wake-up super, we're good
I would really like this frametrap setup guide
The best guide manon
Lore wise, arguably the strongest character (using BALLET to fight)
I would love to see a oki/combo guide for manon this one was really great
Coming soon!
What’s better?
Valentina,Tapatio, or Cholula? Any recommendations for tortilla wraps at Walmart? Counting calories past few weeks and would love to know
I'm a Tapatio guy, all those options are good though
@@801striderFGC ty for reply. Ur streaming personality is exactly what I would expect from someone that’s a professional
@@801striderFGC you’re an inspirational pro gamer. U and Chris T are setting good examples. Thank you
Such a great guide
Thanks for this.
Thx for the guide!
im a current 3400 luke bronze, but i only played cause peoeple told me he easy to play, i really want to play manon tho she was my first i like how she does the judo drops since i did alot of it in the corps. Would you recommend me learnign her or just stay on luke
Thanks for showing how to use her
The “Pros” only do one ass combo
Her DR after buttons is not truly forcing a guess. If you have a ex dp, you can punish it everytime.
Good shit Strider !
Great guide !
Thanks papa Strider
Thanks
That's perfect, tks!!!
would love an oki video
801 mean you in utah? there a street fighter scene around here?
@GetGoodFGC on twitter for UT locals info
Tank you 💯
Thanks for the useful guide :) I do want to say though can you please stop zooming in on your camera in your post editing lol. It's a bit jarring especially when you're explaining something and showing it but you've zoomed in so we cant see xD
What ar you supposed to do to win
801 strider look like Marshal Mathers
Lmao love the characters popping up making comments
When did daddy start a channel 😍
The final tip is SWITCH TO MARISA 🤣 !