These two, Ethan, Nat, Jordy and a few others are really being rewarded for their approach. I appreciate a good, critical, air. But rail work, control and smoothness have to still be rewarded! Glad it was justly rewarded through this comp!
Was wrong about Jack thought his rail game wasn't there, his really been working on his rail game. And to land that air reverse after missing that air is incredible. Good to see someone who isn't Brazilian doing airs.
I’m for both surfers , that 1 move air and getting a 8.0 point is not right . It over scored . ( it seem like favoring local) If Jack did 2 or 3 moves and air , then , YES , he deserves to get a good score of 6 to 9 points or more . That 1 air and no other moves before or after . The point should be 5 to 6 .
Yeah I do think JJF’s last wave deserved a higher score maybe even to take 1st just because of the combo including a small air that he landed. It didn’t have as much power but was a solid combo. Jack’s big air was great but an 8 for one move is a bit over scored, so not scoring JJF’s last wave higher than they did was weird
I love both surfers, but JJF won that final. I agree, just doing an air on a wave( even the difficulty of the wave and low probability of landing), that score was too high.
i just thought the jjf 8.5 was a tad high, the back foot disconnecting on the drop wallet move for me means I would have given it 7.9.........Jack won, truly.
I was thinking the air was a little over scored because of the landing but then again if he would’ve stopped it in the flats I could see it going 9+. Barrel would’ve easily gone into 8s-9s if jjf could’ve added a finishing turn.
Wow.. An 8.1 for a half rotation frontside air! We all remember Italos backside 360 air where he got a 1.2 on a giant wave.. Think about that for a second
2 things to point out after this heat. Firs thing: Aussies started appreciate the air game, now that they finally have a surfer that can land some mediocres airs. Second thing: JJF’s airs SUCKS, it’s just shameful, he should never attempt it in front of any crowd.
@@felipesancler465 Surfing isnt just about doing Airs. thats whats wrong with the brazilians. thats all they do. to me it becoms really boring seeing the same air over and over. I rather watch JJF Rail game all that that watching italo or toledo doing airs.
@@ivanjuz9747 you clearly don’t watch Gabriel Medina, Filipe Toledo and João Chianca. I’ll forgive you for such a stupid and nonsensical comment. But go and watch more surf videos. 👍🏼
I would have scored Johns wave where he disconnects from the tail a lot more, that was incredible surfing in a comp, that stuff is usually free surfing material.
@@bonsummers2657 yeah the move around the 4 min mark that was a 9.5 or 10 score that wave for mine, you don't see that kind of radical disconnect from the board often in comp surfing, it was high risk high reward in the most critical part of the wave imo.
They are always overscoring the Brazilians for airs. I guess it would be strange not overscoring the house boy. Congratulations for both Jack and John.
I dont understand how people say this.....in what world is 2-3 turns more difficult or impressive than a 8 ft high 360? Like is that just a carry over from legacy surfing/style? An air is clearly a more impressive maneuver, especially on these non-barrel waves that everyone is doing turns on
@@luminisant if that big ol air only deserved an 8 then yes, or maybe a 6 or so. that said, i will concede that they tend to underscore barrels on waves where they don't happen too often (happens to JJ and Slater all the time). I'm not sure why that is the case
I knew it was wrap for JJF after Jack stomped that air. Sometimes it feels like if JJF doesn't completely dominate the entire heat he doesn't always pull through. Still my favorite surfer in and out of competition.
Dude I was not expecting anything but a w for jjf and boy did jack play that he well. Obviously these aren’t the waves that John John really exceeds on and jack put it all so well together for a win!! The way to go jack !!
A masterful performance by Jack throughout the event. Local knowledge definitely played a big part in his success at Main Break- not an easy wave, esp. at size. He did what he needed to do in every heat, nothing more nothing less, usually coming from behind. I really like his style; functional surfing without making it look too flashy. A zen performance to be sure.
Yep, normally they rob for the Brazilians because they don't want to ear them cry like bitches. But this wave is for actual men not kids and the WSL could not put a Brazilian in the final even over scoring them.
3 things to point out after this heat. Firs thing: Aussies started appreciate the air game, now that they finally have a surfer that can land some mediocres airs. Second thing: JJF’s airs SUCKS, it’s just embarrassing, he should never attempt it in front of any crowd. Third thing: the King of air is coming back. Gabriel Medina 👑🏄🏻♂️🇧🇷
Is that commentator even a surfer. He says, "John John completely losing control at the tail, and then regains it". He never lost control, his feet were planted the entire hard transition turn. Earlier he says, "he doesn't end his ride as well as Robinson" before the end of the ride.
It came down to each riders 2nd highest rides. JJF had 4 non critical turns while Jack at amazing pace, timing and control pulled off that insane air. His degree of difficulty was far greater and riskier than JJF’s 4 turns. That is why the air won it
John's first wave underscored and jacks air way overscored but WSL will do what the WSL wants. The top 5 has been set from the get go Toledo John Ethan Jack Gabby/Kelly
at first Congratulations Robo! I am your surfings fun But I'm JJFs surfing fun and I though JJF score is low in this competition especially his tube riding score is low,thats riding was risky riding and Compare his layback with Robo's layback I look like JJF's rayback is risky and difficulty high
John John, you had it very complicated with the judges, that spin is the best of the final, much better than the poor aerial that Jack did. In another latitude you would have had other notes and the pressure would be for Jack...let's not forget that in Bells against Italo it was clearly seen what this is about now...they forget that we see it free surfers....
jack fulfilling his potential now🙏🙌 was always the local prodigy. remember him as little blonde grom dropping in on massive bombs around at Gas with a go pro in his mouth like it was nothing🤣🤣 im out there shitting my dacks haha well done Jack🫡
The usual salty suspects where nowhere to be seen during the final (around 300 viewers on the brazzo stream). The live chat regained its meaningfulness with important debates taking place (mostly revolving around world issues such as religion, global warming, the woke culture, Kaipo being high on coke and Deivid watching barges float by from the channel). Beautiful, when’s the next brazzo-free final? Soon I hope.
John rides wave 1, Jack rides wave 2, they both take jetskis.. Jack gets priority? Probably decided the heat right there. Judges suck. Screwed Kelly twice by lowballing his first wave earlier this year too.
great event. a lot of the brazilians were exposed due to lack of power and flow as is often the case with large powerful waves they seem to be lost. Silva in particular looked very scared of the bigger surf and should not be on tour.
I feel like the judges underscore JJF waves . Then when he jumps ahead of his opponents they overscore the opponents waves to get them back into the heat.
2 things to point out after this heat. Firs thing: Aussies started appreciate the air game, now that they finally have a surfer that can land some mediocres airs. Second thing: JJF’s airs SUCKS, it’s just shameful, he should never attempt it in front of any crowd.
Due to gambling in Australia the Wsl Has results which are Blatantly Biased towards Australians, also the Oz commentary team ( except for Rabbit) is pathetically Australian - centric. Over-scoring & Underscoring is very prevalent mostly since last year to present. Bobby Martinez was correct about mid year cut.
Absolutely,,, way way underscored... You can see it if you know anything about surfing, Unfortunately conglomerate company chose who they want,,, it's obvious...Bobby Martinez called it boldly,,,
3 things to point out after this heat. Firs thing: Aussies started appreciate the air game, now that they finally have a surfer that can land some mediocres airs. Second thing: JJF’s airs SUCKS, it’s just embarrassing, he should never attempt it in front of any crowd. Third thing: the King of air is coming back. Gabriel Medina 👑🏄🏻♂️🇧🇷
So epic, was the exact final I was hoping for. Wish they got more waves but oh well, congrats Jack. I’m a huge fan of both surfers
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I love the return of power surfing. That wave of Jack's 2 huge power turns lightning fast and radical. Well done jack.
These two, Ethan, Nat, Jordy and a few others are really being rewarded for their approach.
I appreciate a good, critical, air. But rail work, control and smoothness have to still be rewarded!
Glad it was justly rewarded through this comp!
No big deal
Yes!! Both of these guys lay it over on the rail as good as anyone. The power top turn is something special
Taking out JJF in a final at your home break... Pretty sure we just witnessed one of Jack's core memories for the rest of his life.
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Clown
Absolute to the Root an amazing heat by both Warriors. Thank you for the show.
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Was wrong about Jack thought his rail game wasn't there, his really been working on his rail game.
And to land that air reverse after missing that air is incredible. Good to see someone who isn't Brazilian doing airs.
Another SharpEye in the winners circle. Mauricio making some sick boards
Congratulations to both competitors!!
5:00 JJF ripped that turn like Clay Marzo!!
Great final to watch, Beautiful surfing from both John John and Jack. Obviously Jack deserve it too.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Stunning finals to watch, whoever wins; it seemed so close with both surfers performing some extrordinary surfing.
Mullet look @ the scores & that is a statistical average & consensus from the judges which defines how close it was.
Parabéns Jack vc tem surfado muito👏👏👏🇧🇷
what a legendary effort to beat JJF who is also a total legend. This is as good as it gets! Yiew
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I’m for both surfers , that 1 move air and getting a 8.0 point is not right . It over scored . ( it seem like favoring local)
If Jack did 2 or 3 moves and air , then , YES , he deserves to get a good score of 6 to 9 points or more . That 1 air and no other moves before or after . The point should be 5 to 6 .
Yeah I do think JJF’s last wave deserved a higher score maybe even to take 1st just because of the combo including a small air that he landed. It didn’t have as much power but was a solid combo. Jack’s big air was great but an 8 for one move is a bit over scored, so not scoring JJF’s last wave higher than they did was weird
I love both surfers, but JJF won that final. I agree, just doing an air on a wave( even the difficulty of the wave and low probability of landing), that score was too high.
i just thought the jjf 8.5 was a tad high, the back foot disconnecting on the drop wallet move for me means I would have given it 7.9.........Jack won, truly.
JJF got a 5.4 for the only tube. Jack got a 8.07 for the only air. Both were solid. Neither were epic. Difference of 2.67??? What do you think?
The air was pretty epic tho !!! Not easy to
Land somthing
Like that
I was thinking the air was a little over scored because of the landing but then again if he would’ve stopped it in the flats I could see it going 9+. Barrel would’ve easily gone into 8s-9s if jjf could’ve added a finishing turn.
Kelly aired
JJ was robbed this time.. he won that heat hands down
That tube had a high degree of difficulty. Controlled slide turn alone was a solid 9.0 Judges favor the local lad.
0:51 if you look closely you can see Deivid Silva floating in the channel
Wow.. An 8.1 for a half rotation frontside air! We all remember Italos backside 360 air where he got a 1.2 on a giant wave.. Think about that for a second
if He got 1.2 for an air reverse on a giant wave he definitely did not land it.
2 things to point out after this heat.
Firs thing: Aussies started appreciate the air game, now that they finally have a surfer that can land some mediocres airs. Second thing: JJF’s airs SUCKS, it’s just shameful, he should never attempt it in front of any crowd.
@@felipesancler465 Surfing isnt just about doing Airs. thats whats wrong with the brazilians. thats all they do. to me it becoms really boring seeing the same air over and over. I rather watch JJF Rail game all that that watching italo or toledo doing airs.
Something ain’t adding up in ur statement bud
@@ivanjuz9747 you clearly don’t watch Gabriel Medina, Filipe Toledo and João Chianca. I’ll forgive you for such a stupid and nonsensical comment. But go and watch more surf videos. 👍🏼
I would have scored Johns wave where he disconnects from the tail a lot more, that was incredible surfing in a comp, that stuff is usually free surfing material.
which minute-second mark?
@@bonsummers2657 yeah the move around the 4 min mark that was a 9.5 or 10 score that wave for mine, you don't see that kind of radical disconnect from the board often in comp surfing, it was high risk high reward in the most critical part of the wave imo.
Parabéns juizes
Yes they definitely ran a good event. Anyone surfing well advanced and the weak were dropped kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
The Air was a lil bit overscored... maybe a 7?! But glad jack won at home
6 only 1 maneuver on an average wave.
They are always overscoring the Brazilians for airs. I guess it would be strange not overscoring the house boy. Congratulations for both Jack and John.
I dont understand how people say this.....in what world is 2-3 turns more difficult or impressive than a 8 ft high 360? Like is that just a carry over from legacy surfing/style? An air is clearly a more impressive maneuver, especially on these non-barrel waves that everyone is doing turns on
@@skaterhugs1147 But JJ's barrel deserved a 5?
@@luminisant if that big ol air only deserved an 8 then yes, or maybe a 6 or so. that said, i will concede that they tend to underscore barrels on waves where they don't happen too often (happens to JJ and Slater all the time). I'm not sure why that is the case
I knew it was wrap for JJF after Jack stomped that air. Sometimes it feels like if JJF doesn't completely dominate the entire heat he doesn't always pull through. Still my favorite surfer in and out of competition.
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Once the pressure is on, sometimes it really sinks in. Kids like Tom Brady under pressure.
JJF got hosed by the judges unfortunately.
Congratulations Robo… Keep Going Jack…
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Great heat. Very equal performances.
Dude I was not expecting anything but a w for jjf and boy did jack play that he well. Obviously these aren’t the waves that John John really exceeds on and jack put it all so well together for a win!! The way to go jack !!
The dropping swell in the last part of the heat played into Jack's hand. Jack knew how to pick the waves and get it done.
Right because jjf kills huge surf
Thought Jack was a bit overscored
Epic gringo sportsmanship....watch and learn Brazzo's.
A masterful performance by Jack throughout the event. Local knowledge definitely played a big part in his success at Main Break- not an easy wave, esp. at size. He did what he needed to do in every heat, nothing more nothing less, usually coming from behind. I really like his style; functional surfing without making it look too flashy. A zen performance to be sure.
Stoked !
Good stuff Jack .. that was a epic win.
good morning ❤❤❤
Finally, the WSL succeeded. Final without Brazilians
Yep, normally they rob for the Brazilians because they don't want to ear them cry like bitches. But this wave is for actual men not kids and the WSL could not put a Brazilian in the final even over scoring them.
Funny
Pipeline?
3 things to point out after this heat.
Firs thing: Aussies started appreciate the air game, now that they finally have a surfer that can land some mediocres airs. Second thing: JJF’s airs SUCKS, it’s just embarrassing, he should never attempt it in front of any crowd.
Third thing: the King of air is coming back. Gabriel Medina 👑🏄🏻♂️🇧🇷
U Aussies playing with each other's ball bags again?
We need Pottz as surf speaker
What a final!
FILIPE TOLEDO thanks a lot both guys!
John looked better should have won
John John is champion and the best of the world
Naaah, don’t think so. Already 5 events this year, he won non of them
Robinson a 7.5 on the first wave. Bad bad bad.
Jack e jhon jhon surfaram um degrau acima... final foi animal
Great vievimg
Cool as, well done
Is that commentator even a surfer. He says, "John John completely losing control at the tail, and then regains it". He never lost control, his feet were planted the entire hard transition turn. Earlier he says, "he doesn't end his ride as well as Robinson" before the end of the ride.
It came down to each riders 2nd highest rides. JJF had 4 non critical turns while Jack at amazing pace, timing and control pulled off that insane air. His degree of difficulty was far greater and riskier than JJF’s 4 turns. That is why the air won it
Congrats Jack. But cutting off Jack's speech with Kaipo 🙄 poor edit choice. Also should have had a 45min final 🤷♂️
Nice❤❤❤
Good stuff jack nice win Aussie
Why @wsl cut the end of the interview? The best part of it! 😂😂
é mais complicadinho qdo tem que correr atrás de nota neh rss parabéns aos juí$e$
John's first wave underscored and jacks air way overscored but WSL will do what the WSL wants.
The top 5 has been set from the get go
Toledo
John
Ethan
Jack
Gabby/Kelly
that's not 5
@@crazyinthepop5422 it was Kelly until Gabby decided he wanted in. The WSL have a dilemma
iT's a cOnSPiRAcY!!!
@@carlmarks8170no at all, just scripted.
Humble people are the best people.
You guys have to stop scripting these finishes ;-) LOL. Well done Jack
Já estava pronto essa final, do jeito que a wsl queria
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But I'm super stoked for Jack . Can't win all the time. Got to be happy for the locals when they win in the hometown. 2nd not to shabby
Finally one Australian win 🏆
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I thought the Aussies were retired
Os cara baba demais esse jonh jonh!!
Turpels voice is so annoying.
Great surfing though.
I always repeat after him when he says "on tour".. 😂
Alto nível
Nice
Awesome
Where's Martín Potter ???
You've edited out the best bit ya kooks. .. Kaipo at the end, calling it for John John, and the look on Jack's face
Whoo hoo Brazzo!!
JJ is the master! Congrats JACK!!
Espetacular, e que falta faz o Medina!
at first Congratulations Robo!
I am your surfings fun But I'm JJFs surfing fun and I though JJF score is low in this competition especially his tube riding score is low,thats riding was risky riding and Compare his layback with Robo's layback
I look like JJF's rayback is risky and difficulty high
Great comp, but the 2 point difference between each on their first wave was off.
John John, you had it very complicated with the judges, that spin is the best of the final, much better than the poor aerial that Jack did. In another latitude you would have had other notes and the pressure would be for Jack...let's not forget that in Bells against Italo it was clearly seen what this is about now...they forget that we see it free surfers....
jack fulfilling his potential now🙏🙌
was always the local prodigy.
remember him as little blonde grom dropping in on massive bombs around at Gas with a go pro in his mouth like it was nothing🤣🤣 im out there shitting my dacks haha
well done Jack🫡
I saw him surfing when he was 9 years old. I told him he'd be world champ some day. The kid is insane!
When did the WSL judges start getting sponsored by Dominion voting systems ?
well done jack
What about at Sunset he lost to Kanoa in the final sat there looking out into the ocean
@@KanyeKetchup what about it
@@sammycatto2583 so how he went all out here ? Only surfs big stuff?
@@KanyeKetchup wakkerz on deep geyza
@@KanyeKetchup well that sounds alot better than i only surf small waves, bloody
brazzos
yewwwwwwwww good work
I don’t think one air and a waste of a wave deserves such a high score. On the day JJF was far and above. Rough break from the judges.
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Why cut the interview at the end? 🤣🤣🤣
Congratulations Jack!!!
Great surfing, but absolute awful clusterfuk of a broadcast
Gol de mão do surf
Another pathetic showing of the WSL judges.... Overscore the new guys, underscore the old ones.... Typical
We miss U Pottz!!
💪🏽You killed it Jack! Great sportsmanship #Johnjohn🤙🏽
The usual salty suspects where nowhere to be seen during the final (around 300 viewers on the brazzo stream). The live chat regained its meaningfulness with important debates taking place (mostly revolving around world issues such as religion, global warming, the woke culture, Kaipo being high on coke and Deivid watching barges float by from the channel). Beautiful, when’s the next brazzo-free final? Soon I hope.
Lol 😂
Don’t do meth kids
@MOBsta Imaging woah, just take it easy man
John rides wave 1, Jack rides wave 2, they both take jetskis.. Jack gets priority? Probably decided the heat right there. Judges suck. Screwed Kelly twice by lowballing his first wave earlier this year too.
I know it was cold, but Kaipo was slurring like he just left the after party. 😂
Sorry dudes. Jacks revo was pretty lackluster and overscored by about two points
Jack won that with 81 million votes!
JJ´s loose fins turn was premeditated, he did exactly what he watet to do..
today will forever be known as the day the brazilian storm fizzled into a drizzle shower.
Brazilians were harmed by the judges
Se você soubesse o amor que os brasileiros tem pelos australianos você não faria esse tipo de comentário.
@@bekorabello1847 yeah, lol.
lol after 5 years of absolute dominance one day is enough to say otherwise 😂😂😂😂
@@macouto8 welcome the new gringo storm! Oh and prepare your tears!
Jack get help from the judges, we all watch
😭 JHON FLORENCE kkkk
great event. a lot of the brazilians were exposed due to lack of power and flow as is often the case with large powerful waves they seem to be lost. Silva in particular looked very scared of the bigger surf and should not be on tour.
Gifts
I feel like the judges underscore JJF waves . Then when he jumps ahead of his opponents they overscore the opponents waves to get them back into the heat.
A good car drifter does not lose control
#SHAMELEAGUE
stop watching it if you don't like it....simple
@@surflix4306 I did not ask your opinion . simple
@@rodrigoironsmetal_art1455 i give my opinion without asking.....simple
Congrats to Jack
Gotta admit those airs were sick + turns ( reverse n straight he didnt land) when was jjf's barrel?
2 things to point out after this heat.
Firs thing: Aussies started appreciate the air game, now that they finally have a surfer that can land some mediocres airs. Second thing: JJF’s airs SUCKS, it’s just shameful, he should never attempt it in front of any crowd.
good surfing all around, but Jacks first wave was not a 7.5 cmon..... 2 decent turns and a soft second turn.
Due to gambling in Australia the Wsl
Has results which are
Blatantly Biased towards Australians, also the Oz commentary team ( except for Rabbit)
is pathetically Australian - centric.
Over-scoring & Underscoring is very prevalent mostly since last year to present.
Bobby Martinez was correct about mid year cut.
The judges are from all different countries. The commentators were very complimentary about JJF's dominance throughout the event.
Absolutely,,, way way underscored... You can see it if you know anything about surfing, Unfortunately conglomerate company chose who they want,,, it's obvious...Bobby Martinez called it boldly,,,
Unsubbed because of your new mid-year cut rule, cutting off deserving surfer athletes. Not cool @WSL
Joe Turpel sounds like he got punched in the adam's apple
Christian Fletcher done better airs 30 years ago
3 things to point out after this heat.
Firs thing: Aussies started appreciate the air game, now that they finally have a surfer that can land some mediocres airs. Second thing: JJF’s airs SUCKS, it’s just embarrassing, he should never attempt it in front of any crowd.
Third thing: the King of air is coming back. Gabriel Medina 👑🏄🏻♂️🇧🇷
lmao dreamer