I noticed that too. That *true* Black essence, that Earth-shaking strength Black women have. Her world was turned up-side-down. She didn't know what to do with herself.
She isn't even answering the questions. She's trying to make a circle around the question by stating philosophical nonsense. I feel like she got caught in a lie and instead of owning up to it, she's trying to make this fake mirage of herself. She just sounds so uneducated. Like what Tamar says, she needs to "GET YOUR LIFE".
+Roger “That” H If she wants to be black, let her? She KNOWS that if she claims to be black then EVERYONE will flip off on her, but once she claims to be white, everyone will flip on her as well. This is a lose-lose situation for her. Put YOURSELF in her place.
+Anthony Carter if she claimed white people will flip on her?!! SHE IS WHITE. No one would be pissed if she identified as what she actually is. She's taking huge advantages away from real black women to push herself up. Yo sound nothing but ignorant
Roger H She clearly said she checks BOTH. YOU are the one being RACIST towards her because she is white so CLEARLY she can't be black? And Im the ignorant one? Stop being so entitled, and let her be what she wants. At the end of the day, she is the head of the NAACP and HELPING - - let me repeat, HELPING, people of color. I don't see ANYTHING wrong with that. People will accept Caitlyn jenner but not this?
@leslie ackley It's even more funny that you think you know what you are talking about😂 The NAACP was founded by White AND Black people, but included people of all ethnicities. You assume she was more qualified to be president than another Black person, why? Simply because she is "biologically" White probably, you assume she was smarter based on that🙄 You can keep your old White supremist mentality.
@leslie ackley Uh yea, she is clearly NOT a genius...Rachel Dolezal is nowhere near rich, lol. You're clearly an idiot, and just choosing this platform to display your own racism toward Black people...and I could care less why. Like I said, you can keep your OLD White Supremist mentality.
Agreed. As a woman I think there too much emphasis on white or black. While people are forgetting we are all women and getting distracted while our rights are being taken away, getting paid less and victimized like the MeToo movement. Men want to keep women there. They still see us as less than and prey. I had a single mom of 4 girls and humble beginnings. Elite people didn't care we were white to them it is poor vs. Rich. Haves vs. Havenots. I don't want to be black yet I have empathy for anyone with struggle. She can be herself, have respect for black culture and empathy to make a difference. Yet is a line crossed when you claim an opportunity from someone else less fortunate than you and an identity she is not. Smh. She needs help, self acceptance and awareness.
leslie ackley I’m guessing you’re not a women of color so you’ll never understand how that makes a black women feel. She is black fishing pretending to be a women of color and taking their culture. It’s okay to be influenced by other culture and ethnicity but when you take it and make you and lie about it , it isn’t right.
Ok so Rachel is Pregnant (if you didn't know thank whoever is in charge of this UA-cam account) so I'm scrolling through Instagram and someone was like "Is she pregnant or does she Identify as being pregnant" 😂😂😂
I worked in mental health for over 20 years and I am continuously studying personality disorders because they always fascinated me more than anything else and they're very complex. It is so obvious to me that she believes her own lies and that's why we're very perplexed because of her delivery and her expressions because it's said with such conviction.
@@shellh.5193 She is claiming a complete fallacy just like a man who demands to be addressed as a woman. Or, do you believe that trans women are women?
I don’t agree with her pretending to be black. However, I don’t agree with people harassing her. The things people were saying to her online about her kids, her BABY, were horrific. The death threats aren’t necessary. But yes, she is white and she should identify as that.
I agree with you. It got incredibly out of hand. I understand everyone’s frustration, curiosity, etc. But I watched the documentary and felt HORRIBLE for her and the family. I feel as if she’s having a real identity crisis and needs to seek help. I appreciate her for what she’s done for the community. But she needs to do it WHILE WHITE.
you know what the real irony is, she was turned down on every job she applied to and she couldn't provide for her family, her adoptive african american children. the people that accused her of blackfishing and being racist collectively caused three young members of the african american community to be denied of the proper care they deserved and didn't even bat an eye. and these actions fueled more racism than helping the african american community I believe. there was just so much hate for the family of a woman who felt that she belonged african american community, was an activist for the same community on and off campus. she wasn't hurting anybody. the qualifications for the spot she earned in academy didn't require being black, her education was what got her there and she was trying to bring something positive to the community.
@@diegesis6791 why shouldn’t their be hate for a woman who is white and pretended like she she was black because she felt like “she belonged to the african- american” community?? she could’ve simply been a white activist and that’s that
@Eriss R. oh no doubt. I only used the Democratic debate because it had just happened. If it was a Republican debate, I would've used them as well. There's a reason I stay as an Independent lol
Do you support transfluids, who fluidly change their gender based on how they feel each day. AND, many of them expect to refer to them as a woman when they feel like a woman, and to refer to them as a man when they feel like a man.
Samantha Murphy-Keller... well then i identify as a Billionaire! Let me know when you get your million then I will start looking for mine! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You are soooo right! I was laughing so hard!
Kibbie Lou....what does that have to do with this situation? Surely you arent trying to compare the two? They are NOT the same. Not taking away from the Transgenders since i support LGBT 100%. But again not the same love. Not at all.
It is amazing how many times Rachel avoided answering the question or provided a straight answer, she just danced all around it. The ladies were amazing with their questions to her.
What was the point of her coming on a talk show if she was not going to answer any questions? She just danced around it....I feel she needs to just come out & admit she made a conscious decision to pretend to be a black woman & to state her true feelings on why....
***** it appeared to me all the women except Loni were acting professional. Loni was too emotional when asking questions...that's not good interviewing. Now though Rachel's answers were nonsense she still didn't get a chance to answer because Loni kept cutting her off. Now the other women you can clearly see their annoyance especially w/ Tamar but they remained very professional.
***** Being a black women myself I wasn't upset with what she did...I was actually more fascinated with why & the length she went through to create this "black" image of herself. However I will say this: any person Black, White, Asian etc that choose to "Pass" in the year 2015 their mind is obviously fractured.
Jakeylla Harrison A lot of black women hate being black..that's insane...Ironic that black women drug this women for identifying with a race they hate being themselves.
Honey Butter the reason black women don't like this is because she's a women trying to claim the black experience when in all actuality she has a choice. She can act black if she wants to but if she needs her privileges she can go back to being white. Black women cant just stop being black or turn white. It's an insult. It's nice that she sees the issues of the black race and praises blacks but at the same time you can and never will be black or be apart of our black narrative. And btw black women love their blackness.
Christina Schimp OK so I’m gonna bump it down why it’s not at all the same and also kind of gross. Female brains and male brain are different. I know that some people are not gonna like that I say that but it’s the truth scientifically they are different. Before and even now if you are of a certain age you have to go through certain testing to be considered trans it means that in your brain you are the gender you believe yourself to be. People don’t just have sexual reassignment surgery it can kill you. It is a birth defect they are literally living in the wrong body. To correct that is essential to their well-being. This woman is not trying to correct something essential she likes the mantle of being black but she’s never had to deal with the drawbacks. She would like to maintain the essence of our culture without the strength and perseverance. It is disingenuous. If she wanted to relate to the culture to raise strong independent black men to work in the culture to uplift the culture all of those things would be acceptable and congratulatory what she wants to do is put on a costume of race and feel good about it. Don’t confuse something real with something selfish
Tread Knought gender and sex are two different things. No one is trying to disprove that a human’s physical biology depends if they are born with a penis or a vagina. However, it is nonsensical to center someone’s sexual organ or corporeal body to determine how they manifest in the world. The idea that because i have a penis i think and identify through x and y is completely cultural and changes within every community, every person. Not scientific! Gender identity can not be compared with being transracial because the same way that a persons identity does not base on their sexual organs. It does not base on skin color either. Unfortunately, we live in postcolonial world where an economy was created based on race, and because of this being Black and being White describes the experience that had developed from that trauma. But if you were in ancient Rome no one would be like oh im going to have melanin now. Vice versa with someone from lets say Benin and Togo. Caitlyn Jenner being a trans woman is really just her not identifying with society’s cultural view on masculinity. Rachael Dolezal saying shes Black comes from a place of deep white guilt to the point of trying to disassociate.
@@nicholasbogosian5420 she is intellectualizing by trying to make a delusion of grandeur into something that makes sense. you cannot be black if your parents or at least one parent is not black. that's not how that works. you cannot undergo surgery and become black biologically. African American women have a different genetic makeup from Caucasian women
Tamara I Is THIS your argument?Being BUTT-HURT because White women can affect a LESS-WHITE APPEARANCE(Kylie Jenner), but Black women can't EVER LOOK WHITE?THAT'S what Black women are mad about?WOW.
@Smash 456 All i saw was a bunch of rich privileged millionaire majority black women claiming too be victims , then shaming a trans racial black women who is way down on the bottom of a totem pole compared to them . She identifies as black thats that. If someone indentifies as transgender no one dares question them . Its the same logic here ,, she identfies as black and they basically brought her on to shame her and claim they have it worse than her even though they are richer more privileged than her . Using liberal logic no one should have anything to say just like in the case of trans people. And dont give that crap about you can be trans gender but you can't be trans racial.
So her experience as a “black woman” is getting pulled over and “identified” as a black woman ....you got to be kidding me lmao🙄🥴🥴🥴🥴 This woman is a joke lmao
I wish Amanda Seales could have been on the panel for this episode. I would LOVE to hear her perspective and see how she would clap back at this crazy lady 😂
Its 2020 and I still think this woman is insane and that Tamar shouldve slapped sense into her.🙏🏾🙏🏾✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿🔥🔥🔥 why cant you be your race? Its your idenity from God. He made you your race for a reason✊🏿🙏🏾🙏🏾✊🏿✊🏿🔥
As I white woman I can say I'm truly embarrassed watching this. It's so wrong on so many levels. This world is in an identity crisis. Let's stop lying to ourselves and to each other about who and what we really are
I don't hear of things like this in the UK. It's got me thinking that maybe the US still has a lot of work to do with it comes to educating people on history and geography
Oh A LOT GIRL!!! Race is still such a touchy subject when by now it really shouldn't be. We're living in this country (America) & it's a melting pot, so you have people from all over which means different races. It being a melting pot we need to embrace and celebrate the different races, people, that make us this great melting pot instead of discriminating or all the stuff that's going on in America! It's just sad.
She got a job as a university professor for saying she was black. As soon as she was outed as a Whitt woman she was fired. If this scenario was reversed, what would we call it? Let THAT sink in…..
This is so fucked up. This girl is sitting next to all these black women giving her "WTF" stares after answering her question, especially Tamar, but yet, Tamar, Loni, every one of those girls is wearing a silky textured weave. Every one of those girls contour to get a slimmer nose, every one of those girls does something to change their original features to look more European. Even if it's not their intention, what do they think when they put on that silky wig and make their noses smaller? They are doing exactly what that other girl is doing, and I think that everyone only feels some type of way because Rachel can get away with it. These girls out here getting credit for looking lighter skinned, and everything like that, but when a woman wants to base her looks and actions on a black women, every black woman wants to shut her out. I think that is so horrible and hypocritical. Isn't what she's doing along the lines of being transgender? Why is it that we can't accept a woman who wants to be black, but we can accept people who were "born in the wrong body." I'm really upset at this bullshit. - Maybe I should hate everyone trying to be Brazilian with all that brazilian weave! I'm brazilian, do you think that that offends me? Yall not identifying as black with that silky texture, blue contacts, blonde weave !!! I'm so done with people
White women get lip injections, butt lifs, tan their skin dark, they try to cook like black women and they also are obsessed with black men. So nobody us talking about changing features. Its about not trying to blend w the black culture simply for the opportunities it made for itself by its community. Do u not see why that's upsetting? U gotta open ur eyes to the backwards treatment. I'm an African and I was upset at this white woman who's privileges allows her to play two races when its convenient
Okay, so maybe everyone needs to agree how black women bleach their skin, and wear blonde weaves and colored contacts and white girls do the same to try to be darker. So what's the difference with this girl, the fact that she's not in denial?
See, but how is Raven Symone a bad person for wanting everyone to be treated as the same race, how it was supposed to be? We ALL have eyes, noses, mouths, ears, arms, legs, we are all humans, wouldn't it be ridiculous if cats or dogs acted certain ways against orange fur, or golden fur? Like that sounds stupid that you can't identify however you want to because we are ALL human, with the same basic features.
Ariana Snider ...... Listen u can't pick the color u are born with. Its wrong from a white woman to pretend she is black when all these racisms and stereotypes exist. If we want to have people switching races, we gotta stop atrocities from happening to others. White people have to realize thag they do Not identify with black struggle, black people face issues that white people do not such as an ignored voice and murders. When those issues are gone and we are of equal levels, can they join us and claim our culture. U can't claim a culture if u can't claim its struggle.
RIGHT you CANT pick the color you are born with, so if you FEEL like you are something OTHER THAN WHAT YOU WERE BORN WITH then you should have the right to be whoever the hell you want to be, just like if a dude feels like he was born in the wrong body, he can become a woman and vice versa, you just proved my whole point! So now i'm done!
Being black isnt just KNOWING about blackness, it's being raised and experiencing blackness. It's about culture, family value, similarity of experience, ancestry 🙄🙄🙄.
Yeaaa.. but also there are many black people who don’t fit in that status quo & typical culture of blackness... (blacks adopted by white families from birth, blacks people who are intensely involved in predominately white music/activities & people). Does that make them less black? I don’t think being black is just about the culture it’s solely your skin complexion
So a black girl wear fake wigs. FAKE ALL... Fake straight hair....Lens and dye their hair with an unmatch blonde hair..but she cant.....black girls try to be white all time...Most Fat ppl wear work out clothes 24/7 and they just over eat,not exercise...ALSO SHE DOES HAVE BLACK ON HER LIKE ANY OF US
@@lovingpurrs8388 How is a black woman straightening her hair trying to be white or having blonde hair trying to be white??? Or wearing color contact lenses trying to be white???
@@TheMrsilverscott how is this white woman judged for having curls/afro and bashed as trying to be black???? I think my beautiful hair looks great straight or curls,unlike an african american person trying to force mother nature lol
A transgender person wouldn't have gotten checked like that, or if so, it would've been distasteful and this show would've been under fire. they should all just let Rachel "be great" lol.
MoonLight Mystique then what’s the point of the questions? These were obviously outrageous statements being made and people want answers. Her circling around the answer just makes her look worse in my opinion
Jasmine B I noticed that too she kept talking in circles. She was like that in other interviews as well she never answers the questions.I don’t know what her problem is maybe she is just mad she got caught in this big lie.
I didn’t read her book but supposedly she grew up with black foster brothers and a sister and wanted to be like them. She married a black man and had children. Doing that didn’t help her agenda so she told all them to be quiet and pretend she’s black/mixed and found a black man to pretend to be her father. She told lies and she knows she told lies…not counting the welfare fraud. She’s highly intelligent and a gifted artist and it’s a shame she brought this all on herself. I do get why she would hate where she really comes from tho.
I don't think she will stop. That's the craziest part. She just keeps pushing and pushing. She continues to identify as Black or with the Black culture, whichever it is now. She seems disturbed
And what the hell do you consider a "thing." What do you call a four year old boy who identifies as a female? A thing? Id like to see you hop into a man's body for a few years, and see how long you last till you crack
cuz she's getting paid for these interviews. since naacp dropped her, her income is real slim. i heard she's doing hair for a living now. who's paying her to touch their head? Girl that beats me...
Keisha Charmaine lmfao that is too funny! And yeah you are right its the money. I should've asked why do they keep interviewing her.. I watched just to see how Tamar would go in lmao!
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The thing with Caitlyn is different. She decided to change her gender. Rachel on the other hand is trying to change her race. And that’s something you can’t do. You are who you are and you should deal with it. Period.
@@mathewrodriguez175 With all due respect, do you realize how hypocritical that sounds? Why do you think someone can just decide to change their gender, but not their race?
Honestly, they all annoyed me in this. Like they conducted this interview with all their emotions and didn't "force" her to answer... Like I felt they went easy on her lolz
"Have you walked the walk of a a black woman?" Rachel: "Absolutely." That is THE MOST OFFENSIVE THING I have ever heard come out of her mouth. I have no idea how those women around her are keeping themselves from slapping her.
Oh wow, I’m just watching. White women are beautiful & so is she & Black women are beautiful as well. Why wouldn’t she want to identify herself as a beautiful white women? Smh🤦🏾♀️
So why is it ok to biologically be born one gender and yet “feel” like you identify as the other gender but not apply that same criteria when it comes to ethnicity?
If she wants to be black let her be black, if that what she identifies herself as, it is just like Micheal jackson wanted to be white, people feel how they want to feel, there is lots of black people in my community who want lighter skin colour so they bleach there skin because they ‘feel’ there too dark and lot of us wear hair that straight like Indian, or Chinese, Brazilian to look like white women, but we are born with kinky Afro hair... and don’t get me start on our black people who act like ‘coconuts’ And do not want to embrace there own heritage and ethnicity! To be fair the only thing she did wrong was not own up that she born white and through growing up she felt she was born in the wrong colour instead of making people believe she was black, and I feel had she done that in the first place ... the black and white community would not socially discriminate her, apart from that she has the ‘right’ to feel how she wants to feel, there is so much other identity that get discriminated against such as black men who are gays, skin tones among the black community people will say Beyoncé is more beautiful than Adut Akech because she is light skin, and this very evident in the black community and I have experienced this as a dark skin women with thick Afro hair in my own black community. So to my conclusion people just need accept people who they are no matter what background they are from.
Because philosophy IS the language of life and living. I don't understand why people have a problem with depth in conversations. I don't agree with her, don't get me wrong, but there is nothing wrong with how she expresses herself. You should be more concerned with the amount of people living their lives according to fairy tales (aka religion) instead of philosophy!
The police doesn’t just identify your race and write it in a ticket depending on what race they feel you are, it’s on your driver’s license and you provide your race when applying for a driver license. She’s full of BS.
Dorian Graye As embarressing as her answers are. They are without substance, flippant and disregard other black people. I mean, come on...she is black because a cop assumed such? She is black because of a tick box? Please! She is struggling to be validated and it is clear as day.
This was not the place for this... interview, I guess they're calling it? Yeah. Not the place. None of these women are journalists. Loni's a "comedian" (I guess) and that other one is a "singer" (I guess) and they neither have the training nor the discipline to properly interview someone about something so clearly personal to them. Now... if they were just trying to have this be a "Oooh, let's have Loni and Tamar put Rachel in check" segment. Fine. But don't pass this off as a deep discussion about "Race vs. State of Mind"
Why must you be a journalist to interview someone?? It is their show and she agreed. If that is the case no talk show host who is not a journalist should ever interview anyone...
+JoinNat&Nic The fact you don't understand why you need to be a journalist or at least journalism training to interview someone on broadcast television is indicative of why the media is so shoddy nowadays. You can't get to the truth of the topic being discussed or of the person being interviewed if you're to emotionally caught up in your personal opinion. It ceases being an interview and begins being a bash fest. You need to objective when presenting an issue to the masses. Let them make up their own mind. Rachel got flip with Tamar because Tamar came at her already not trying to hear her. Rachel felt defensive and then her answers stopped being even the least bit forthcoming and started being evasive to avoid any further confrontation. Nothing got resolved or answered in these five minutes. Definitely not about race vs state of mind.
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She was beating around the bush and not getting straight to the point because she was trying to think of lies xDD
I am biracial but I look fully white. My dad is white and my mum is African Caribbean. My Life to this day has been so horribly sad because I look white and I feel black inside.
That was a powerful question when Tamar asked her "You walk the walk of a black woman?" I have family members that resemble Rachel (the way she appears in this video today) and as a mixed race person myself who appears ambiguous, I find it interesting that while growing up in America, I was always told that because of my "one drop" of black blood that would make me black by default and that is how I should self-identify, however, I didn't walk the walk of a black woman so to say that I'm black exclusively feels like a lie, just as it would if I were to call myself a white woman, even though I am both. This is the reason why I insist on continuing to self-identify as a mixed race or biracial Hispanic woman. I feel that it's a slap in the face to black women (or black folks in general) to call yourself black when you don't look it or live the struggle. It comes across in the same way as this woman Rachel is doing, which is why she angers many black folks by living the lie that she's portraying. I can also see on the other hand why some black folks think that it's an honorable thing that she would want to take on the role of a black woman, but at the end of the day, she can change up her look whenever she decides to and "wash the black off" (and in her case, that would be literally to a certain extent) A true black person doesn't have that luxury.
Liz Vasquez She has not come close to the black experience..to ever think she is a Black woman...it takes alot more than braids! a hairstyle, or adopting a black kid TO BE BLACK! wut an insult!...
@@FalconsZone6 NO they are mixed not just blk or wyt. Biracial not monoracial. Let go of the rayceast one drop rule. It does more harm than good to actual blk folks.
She’s brave. There’re a lot more people like her out here in the world. Your resentment (for whites or Rachel) won’t erase our existence/ experiences We are human just like you and are who we say we are: BELIEVE IT OR NOT: it’s our truth History has shown us time and again to listen to the “other” and accept people for who and what they say they are. If your argument is based on mental illness then so is homosexuality and transsexuality alike. No cherry picking! Let it be.
She's trying to sound smart and it's just not working out for her. Yes, Rachel has done all these things for the black community which is why so many uncle Toms--I mean black people are taking up for her. All that could have been done without turning yourself into a BW. Neither does she need to turn herself into a BW to like our culture. She can talk the talk but she truly hasn't walked the walk of a BW in today's world which is why I understand Tamar's point. You think you know our struggles simply because you put weave in your head, get spray tanned, and claimed your black brother as your son. No amount of makeup, box braids, black husbands, or charity work for the black community will ever make her a black woman. And that's pure fact. #SorryButSureAsHellNotSorry
DMadkin08 She really could have because white privilege is an advantage that she could have turned around for good and use to help the black community.
***** See, I already knew someone like you was gonna say something like this. I never stated that every black person with different views to this situation are now uncle Toms. However, I would declare a person an uncle Tom, if the only reason they're taking up for her foolishness is because she's done stuff for the black community.
did she say she walked the walk as a black woman because she got marked as black on a parking ticket !?? really ?!?! the most offensive thing ever . police men mark your parking ticket but the also mark real black people with bullets wounds & bruises .. i find this disgusting and im only 14 years old .
Nadia A. That's all it is. It's a cosmetic prefrence. Her claim to be black has more to do w anger at her biological family - you can tell from other interviews she hates them
@@johnlamphier9812 And I don't really blame her who knows the racism she may have witnessed at their very hands...I think it has a lot to do with how the black adopted child was treated at the hands of her brother and how their parents handled that....that can leave a deep impression on the minds of CHILDREN and scar them for life...I don't blame u Dozela gurl....do u!!!! After all Michael Jackson turned himself WHITE for the very same reason...the abuses of his father/family LOL!
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Just because you know black history doesn't mean you lived the "life of a black woman" Rachel !!!!!
Thankyou!!
yasss she don't know our struggles.....what Loni said to her is the truth
I agree with you all the way !
Lmao she said "they mark black on my tickets" like so? What does that imply smh.
Amen.
She took that 0.5% African too far...
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So true 😀😀
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Imagine if Amanda Seales was on this segment, wew chile
They need to invite Rachel back
I was thinking that same thing 😂😂😂😂
SIS!!!!
ikr..and now they're live lol....words woulda been said
@@JoyFay Amanda would put Rachel in her place
AMANDA SEALS WOULD’VE RIP HER A NEW ONE!!!!!
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She was so scared being around REAL BLACK women.
I noticed that too. That *true* Black essence, that Earth-shaking strength Black women have. Her world was turned up-side-down. She didn't know what to do with herself.
She headed the NAACP ? Shes been around plenty of strong black women.
Dalacey Minor it's still frustrating seeing her after all this time.
When she said she has "walked the walk of a black woman" but then tried to backtrack by asking if there was "a singular experience" 💀💀💀💀😭😭
Raythell Jordan Lol don't be so defensive 😂😋
She isn't even answering the questions. She's trying to make a circle around the question by stating philosophical nonsense. I feel like she got caught in a lie and instead of owning up to it, she's trying to make this fake mirage of herself. She just sounds so uneducated. Like what Tamar says, she needs to "GET YOUR LIFE".
+Roger “That” H If she wants to be black, let her? She KNOWS that if she claims to be black then EVERYONE will flip off on her, but once she claims to be white, everyone will flip on her as well. This is a lose-lose situation for her. Put YOURSELF in her place.
+Anthony Carter exactly
+Anthony Carter if she claimed white people will flip on her?!! SHE IS WHITE. No one would be pissed if she identified as what she actually is. She's taking huge advantages away from real black women to push herself up. Yo sound nothing but ignorant
Roger H She clearly said she checks BOTH. YOU are the one being RACIST towards her because she is white so CLEARLY she can't be black? And Im the ignorant one? Stop being so entitled, and let her be what she wants. At the end of the day, she is the head of the NAACP and HELPING - - let me repeat, HELPING, people of color. I don't see ANYTHING wrong with that. People will accept Caitlyn jenner but not this?
+Anthony Carter She is a fraud and forged fake hate letters. She is not and will never be a black woman.
TO THIS DAYYYYY this interview is still hard asf to watch 😂😂 In MYYYYYYY Opinion
@leslie ackley It's even more funny that you think you know what you are talking about😂 The NAACP was founded by White AND Black people, but included people of all ethnicities. You assume she was more qualified to be president than another Black person, why? Simply because she is "biologically" White probably, you assume she was smarter based on that🙄 You can keep your old White supremist mentality.
@leslie ackley Uh yea, she is clearly NOT a genius...Rachel Dolezal is nowhere near rich, lol. You're clearly an idiot, and just choosing this platform to display your own racism toward Black people...and I could care less why. Like I said, you can keep your OLD White Supremist mentality.
Agreed. As a woman I think there too much emphasis on white or black. While people are forgetting we are all women and getting distracted while our rights are being taken away, getting paid less and victimized like the MeToo movement. Men want to keep women there. They still see us as less than and prey. I had a single mom of 4 girls and humble beginnings. Elite people didn't care we were white to them it is poor vs. Rich. Haves vs. Havenots. I don't want to be black yet I have empathy for anyone with struggle. She can be herself, have respect for black culture and empathy to make a difference. Yet is a line crossed when you claim an opportunity from someone else less fortunate than you and an identity she is not. Smh. She needs help, self acceptance and awareness.
leslie ackley I’m guessing you’re not a women of color so you’ll never understand how that makes a black women feel. She is black fishing pretending to be a women of color and taking their culture. It’s okay to be influenced by other culture and ethnicity but when you take it and make you and lie about it , it isn’t right.
it shocked me when i researched some of her videos on utube, the number of black supporters she actually has.
4:58 YOOOOO I MISS TAMAR!!! “Yeah but which one YOU check DOE?!?” Like answer it! 😂😂😂
I HOLLERED 😭
Tamar was NOT here for what Mrs. Dolezal was serving tonight hunty!
Blue Latios “hunty”?
If they are not willing to understand the other side, then why even invite her.
They already had their arguements against her before the interview.
@leslie ackley lmao you're actually a joke...sounds about white
@@venuslammawin3346 if something makes no sense they don't have to respect or understand it. The producers bought her on.
@@Nadya90210 lol mad she's right?
Ok so Rachel is Pregnant (if you didn't know thank whoever is in charge of this UA-cam account) so I'm scrolling through Instagram and someone was like "Is she pregnant or does she Identify as being pregnant" 😂😂😂
😃😄
lmaooo!
😂😂😂😂 RIGHT!
Lol because we all descended from a pregnant woman, technically we all have uterine origins *checks box*
+Elikah Henry 😂😂😂 get out!!!!
She was was trying to change the subject, we all know she's white so there's no reason to lie boo.
"The police mark black on my traffic tickets"
How to get jumped 101
She couldn't get away with that on Dr Phil. He said to her time and again. "YOU STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED THE QUESTION..."
Damn she’s dodging questions like it’s dodgeball
She's black fishing, I think its sad that people are tryinna be like me as trend, my genetics ain't no trend bruhh
Rilakkuma its a joke....
like the matrix!!
@Jūsō bro wtf. U didnt even say no homo
U sexy asf
I worked in mental health for over 20 years and I am continuously studying personality disorders because they always fascinated me more than anything else and they're very complex. It is so obvious to me that she believes her own lies and that's why we're very perplexed because of her delivery and her expressions because it's said with such conviction.
Just like "Trans Women ARE WOMEN" people?
@@TheCalm25 I don't get what you are saying in response to my comment?
@@shellh.5193 She is claiming a complete fallacy just like a man who demands to be addressed as a woman. Or, do you believe that trans women are women?
@@TheCalm25 honestly, I don't care to entertain your comment lol
Are you thinking of a specific personality disorder? Could it be DID?
I don’t agree with her pretending to be black. However, I don’t agree with people harassing her. The things people were saying to her online about her kids, her BABY, were horrific. The death threats aren’t necessary.
But yes, she is white and she should identify as that.
I agree with you. It got incredibly out of hand. I understand everyone’s frustration, curiosity, etc. But I watched the documentary and felt HORRIBLE for her and the family. I feel as if she’s having a real identity crisis and needs to seek help. I appreciate her for what she’s done for the community. But she needs to do it WHILE WHITE.
The comments, especially the ones by white supremicists, would make anyone lose faith in humanity.
you know what the real irony is, she was turned down on every job she applied to and she couldn't provide for her family, her adoptive african american children. the people that accused her of blackfishing and being racist collectively caused three young members of the african american community to be denied of the proper care they deserved and didn't even bat an eye. and these actions fueled more racism than helping the african american community I believe. there was just so much hate for the family of a woman who felt that she belonged african american community, was an activist for the same community on and off campus. she wasn't hurting anybody. the qualifications for the spot she earned in academy didn't require being black, her education was what got her there and she was trying to bring something positive to the community.
@@diegesis6791 why shouldn’t their be hate for a woman who is white and pretended like she she was black because she felt like “she belonged to the african- american” community?? she could’ve simply been a white activist and that’s that
@@diegesis6791 she wasn’t bringing any positive to the black community like not even one drop
I have never seen someone talk so many circles around the actual answer in my life
Politicians do it all the time.
Watch the US Democratic debates that aired last week, or any political debate or news conference for that matter.
Sounds very white
@@alexarkadios9108 🤡
@Eriss R. oh no doubt. I only used the Democratic debate because it had just happened. If it was a Republican debate, I would've used them as well. There's a reason I stay as an Independent lol
I can “feel” like I identify as a millionaire, but where are my millions?? 🤔
Do you support transfluids, who fluidly change their gender based on how they feel each day. AND, many of them expect to refer to them as a woman when they feel like a woman, and to refer to them as a man when they feel like a man.
Samantha Murphy-Keller for real
gurl same
Samantha Murphy-Keller... well then i identify as a Billionaire! Let me know when you get your million then I will start looking for mine! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You are soooo right! I was laughing so hard!
Kibbie Lou....what does that have to do with this situation? Surely you arent trying to compare the two? They are NOT the same. Not taking away from the Transgenders since i support LGBT 100%. But again not the same love. Not at all.
It is amazing how many times Rachel avoided answering the question or provided a straight answer, she just danced all around it. The ladies were amazing with their questions to her.
She’s mad at mommy and daddy!!! Something happened for her to reject her race!!! You’re still YOU!!! EMBRACE IT!!!
@Harry Waddington bye. People blackfish cause they wanna be included and look ambiguous cause that's what's in style
@Harry Waddington Yes, due to your own actions in the past and present.
What was the point of her coming on a talk show if she was not going to answer any questions? She just danced around it....I feel she needs to just come out & admit she made a conscious decision to pretend to be a black woman & to state her true feelings on why....
***** I agree . Let here what the woman has to say. We already heard enough black bad additude black women.
***** it appeared to me all the women except Loni were acting professional. Loni was too emotional when asking questions...that's not good interviewing. Now though Rachel's answers were nonsense she still didn't get a chance to answer because Loni kept cutting her off. Now the other women you can clearly see their annoyance especially w/ Tamar but they remained very professional.
***** Being a black women myself I wasn't upset with what she did...I was actually more fascinated with why & the length she went through to create this "black" image of herself.
However I will say this: any person Black, White, Asian etc that choose to "Pass" in the year 2015 their mind is obviously fractured.
Ebony_Love_R_007 just like some of hella rude black women in customer service don't listen
She answered guestions. She may not have given the answers you liked but she did answer the questions.
I'm dead at Jeannie gently caressing Tamar's leg to calm her down lol
Oh you saw that too 😄
I need a timestamp for that please!!!!
@@strawberrymel7022 At 1:45 lol....it was so subtle but hilarious
Jeannie was so nice to her even though Tamar was being a bitch
By that womans logic why should we check race boxes or have them if everyone comes from Africa 🤔🤔 this bit:h is weird
Noooooo, the cops don't identify you when pulled over. They refer to your drivers license as to how you identify yourself. Duh!
The audience reactions restored my faith in humanity
Why does she always beat around the bush tho??? She never gives a straight yes or no answer 😂
Right!!! I'm like would you just answer the darn question already. So shady.
she doesnt because she is trying to protect herself, and not incriminate herself further. I would choose my words aswell if in her situation.
Seriously it's like pulling teeth!
Lol I noticed that.
She's on trial, she's being directly judged and she doesn't want to be attacked.
she stay dodging the questions
Jakeylla Harrison A lot of black women hate being black..that's insane...Ironic that black women drug this women for identifying with a race they hate being themselves.
Honey Butter Ikr?
Honey Butter the reason black women don't like this is because she's a women trying to claim the black experience when in all actuality she has a choice. She can act black if she wants to but if she needs her privileges she can go back to being white. Black women cant just stop being black or turn white. It's an insult. It's nice that she sees the issues of the black race and praises blacks but at the same time you can and never will be black or be apart of our black narrative. And btw black women love their blackness.
Jakeylla Harrison for real Mami I feel you, she always talk in circles.
Jakeylla Harrison because she's white and thats what they do!!
I like how they didnt make it hostile but an actual interview trying to understand and teach
I can’t help but laugh when I see Tamar wanting to fight this girl!
They all wanna throw hands for sure rn😂 I don’t blame them. She’s actually sick, she needs to get help🤦🏽♀️
@@YouAREyoubeYou not the same. There are neurological differences between genders, not races.
@@littlegothgirl8869 you have your opinion I have mine.
Christina Schimp OK so I’m gonna bump it down why it’s not at all the same and also kind of gross. Female brains and male brain are different. I know that some people are not gonna like that I say that but it’s the truth scientifically they are different. Before and even now if you are of a certain age you have to go through certain testing to be considered trans it means that in your brain you are the gender you believe yourself to be. People don’t just have sexual reassignment surgery it can kill you. It is a birth defect they are literally living in the wrong body. To correct that is essential to their well-being.
This woman is not trying to correct something essential she likes the mantle of being black but she’s never had to deal with the drawbacks. She would like to maintain the essence of our culture without the strength and perseverance. It is disingenuous. If she wanted to relate to the culture to raise strong independent black men to work in the culture to uplift the culture all of those things would be acceptable and congratulatory what she wants to do is put on a costume of race and feel good about it. Don’t confuse something real with something selfish
@@MsInterestedParty thanks for the unwarranted synopsis though.
@@rcr-zt4of it's not an opinion but thanks for yours...
How tamar was feeling Is the same exact way I felt watching this video the whole time smh she’s has a deep mental illness
Tread Knought gender and sex are two different things. No one is trying to disprove that a human’s physical biology depends if they are born with a penis or a vagina. However, it is nonsensical to center someone’s sexual organ or corporeal body to determine how they manifest in the world. The idea that because i have a penis i think and identify through x and y is completely cultural and changes within every community, every person. Not scientific!
Gender identity can not be compared with being transracial because the same way that a persons identity does not base on their sexual organs. It does not base on skin color either. Unfortunately, we live in postcolonial world where an economy was created based on race, and because of this being Black and being White describes the experience that had developed from that trauma. But if you were in ancient Rome no one would be like oh im going to have melanin now. Vice versa with someone from lets say Benin and Togo.
Caitlyn Jenner being a trans woman is really just her not identifying with society’s cultural view on masculinity. Rachael Dolezal saying shes Black comes from a place of deep white guilt to the point of trying to disassociate.
Like transgenders
Looking back at this clip, what was infuriating about her was her method of intellectualizing her ignorance and delusion.
I don't see it as intellectualizing. Rather, her identity and experience requires a level of intellect that isn't mainstream.
@@nicholasbogosian5420 she is intellectualizing by trying to make a delusion of grandeur into something that makes sense. you cannot be black if your parents or at least one parent is not black. that's not how that works. you cannot undergo surgery and become black biologically. African American women have a different genetic makeup from Caucasian women
I love Tamar, “which one you checking though?” 😂😂😂
Tamar was not having it lmao
👏👏👏
But she was having her nose made smaller and fake straight hair. What a hyporcryte.
+workingmom NC27 Are you claping for the hypocryte
+Sunny Sweetness girl having a slimmer nose and straight hair doesn't mean you want to be white. It is some black people with natural straight hair.
+katia parks as well as whites with curlt hair
This is the highest example of white privilege. Its amazing that she can get to decide what race she is...how many woman of color can get to do that?
I know a good amount.
Tamara I Is THIS your argument?Being BUTT-HURT because White women can affect a LESS-WHITE APPEARANCE(Kylie Jenner), but Black women can't EVER LOOK WHITE?THAT'S what Black women are mad about?WOW.
If you can accept a trans gender person why cant you accept a trans racial person .????? Is a man indentifying as women male privilege?????
@Smash 456 All i saw was a bunch of rich privileged millionaire majority black women claiming too be victims , then shaming a trans racial black women who is way down on the bottom of a totem pole compared to them . She identifies as black thats that. If someone indentifies as transgender no one dares question them . Its the same logic here ,, she identfies as black and they basically brought her on to shame her and claim they have it worse than her even though they are richer more privileged than her . Using liberal logic no one should have anything to say just like in the case of trans people. And dont give that crap about you can be trans gender but you can't be trans racial.
Tamara I That’s what I was thinking
So her experience as a “black woman” is getting pulled over and “identified” as a black woman ....you got to be kidding me lmao🙄🥴🥴🥴🥴
This woman is a joke lmao
I wish Amanda Seales could have been on the panel for this episode. I would LOVE to hear her perspective and see how she would clap back at this crazy lady 😂
This interview is so uncomfortable to watch.
I agree mr i can't say your whole name
She is extremely intelligent though and could have done big things if she would've been a bit more honest
This was uncomfortable to watch
Its 2020 and I still think this woman is insane and that Tamar shouldve slapped sense into her.🙏🏾🙏🏾✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿🔥🔥🔥 why cant you be your race? Its your idenity from God. He made you your race for a reason✊🏿🙏🏾🙏🏾✊🏿✊🏿🔥
Twapalwa Kangwa because people look down on white people constantly and it’s so annoying, getting old. They are to a victim to everyone and everything
As I white woman I can say I'm truly embarrassed watching this. It's so wrong on so many levels. This world is in an identity crisis. Let's stop lying to ourselves and to each other about who and what we really are
I don't hear of things like this in the UK. It's got me thinking that maybe the US still has a lot of work to do with it comes to educating people on history and geography
Oh A LOT GIRL!!! Race is still such a touchy subject when by now it really shouldn't be. We're living in this country (America) & it's a melting pot, so you have people from all over which means different races. It being a melting pot we need to embrace and celebrate the different races, people, that make us this great melting pot instead of discriminating or all the stuff that's going on in America! It's just sad.
yall just as racist over there, trust
+flower petals exactly,I know from experience
+essie fab sadly there will always be racism! but having grown up in the UK and Asia i've never seen such a divide as America seems to have...
+dumbdumb 9 you'd never really know how bad racism is anywhere you go bc you'd never experience it
"Yeah, but which one did you check doe?"
XDXDXDXD
Jilae Lennio hhahahah.!!! She so rude! I was thinking the same and Tamar said it!
Jilae Lennio That's why her ass not on that show anymore..being aggressive and speaking out of turn. Glad she's gone!
Jilae Lennio I read that as soon as she said it 😂😂😂
checking a box does not define your race
Bruce Wayne we also write "tho" fyi. Now stfu 《-- Do you need that explained too?
If there were boxes on the application, which one would would you have checked?
Rachel: There weren't any boxes.
Audience: LMAO
Me: Dead
She got a job as a university professor for saying she was black. As soon as she was outed as a Whitt woman she was fired. If this scenario was reversed, what would we call it? Let THAT sink in…..
This is so fucked up. This girl is sitting next to all these black women giving her "WTF" stares after answering her question, especially Tamar, but yet, Tamar, Loni, every one of those girls is wearing a silky textured weave. Every one of those girls contour to get a slimmer nose, every one of those girls does something to change their original features to look more European. Even if it's not their intention, what do they think when they put on that silky wig and make their noses smaller? They are doing exactly what that other girl is doing, and I think that everyone only feels some type of way because Rachel can get away with it. These girls out here getting credit for looking lighter skinned, and everything like that, but when a woman wants to base her looks and actions on a black women, every black woman wants to shut her out. I think that is so horrible and hypocritical. Isn't what she's doing along the lines of being transgender? Why is it that we can't accept a woman who wants to be black, but we can accept people who were "born in the wrong body." I'm really upset at this bullshit.
- Maybe I should hate everyone trying to be Brazilian with all that brazilian weave! I'm brazilian, do you think that that offends me? Yall not identifying as black with that silky texture, blue contacts, blonde weave !!! I'm so done with people
White women get lip injections, butt lifs, tan their skin dark, they try to cook like black women and they also are obsessed with black men. So nobody us talking about changing features. Its about not trying to blend w the black culture simply for the opportunities it made for itself by its community. Do u not see why that's upsetting? U gotta open ur eyes to the backwards treatment. I'm an African and I was upset at this white woman who's privileges allows her to play two races when its convenient
Okay, so maybe everyone needs to agree how black women bleach their skin, and wear blonde weaves and colored contacts and white girls do the same to try to be darker. So what's the difference with this girl, the fact that she's not in denial?
See, but how is Raven Symone a bad person for wanting everyone to be treated as the same race, how it was supposed to be? We ALL have eyes, noses, mouths, ears, arms, legs, we are all humans, wouldn't it be ridiculous if cats or dogs acted certain ways against orange fur, or golden fur? Like that sounds stupid that you can't identify however you want to because we are ALL human, with the same basic features.
Ariana Snider ...... Listen u can't pick the color u are born with. Its wrong from a white woman to pretend she is black when all these racisms and stereotypes exist. If we want to have people switching races, we gotta stop atrocities from happening to others. White people have to realize thag they do Not identify with black struggle, black people face issues that white people do not such as an ignored voice and murders. When those issues are gone and we are of equal levels, can they join us and claim our culture. U can't claim a culture if u can't claim its struggle.
RIGHT you CANT pick the color you are born with, so if you FEEL like you are something OTHER THAN WHAT YOU WERE BORN WITH then you should have the right to be whoever the hell you want to be, just like if a dude feels like he was born in the wrong body, he can become a woman and vice versa, you just proved my whole point! So now i'm done!
*squints and comes closer to the screen*
she got a lace front on?! I'm FLOORED. 😂😂😂
Yes girl My thoughts exactly.
Lol! An obvious one at that too 😴😴
+Elizabeth Taylor I wasnt the only one looking at that
+Erin Knight mygod thats all i was looking at lol
Cuz her real hair can't look like that lmao. Did you see her old pics? Lifeless ass hair. haha
Is this lady for real????? As a black woman especially from an African country, I'm hella offended by this woman.
I watched all the interviews and I gotta say, her body language on this show {more than all the others} finally says, "I f.u.*.k.e.d up!
Being black isnt just KNOWING about blackness, it's being raised and experiencing blackness. It's about culture, family value, similarity of experience, ancestry 🙄🙄🙄.
Yeaaa.. but also there are many black people who don’t fit in that status quo & typical culture of blackness... (blacks adopted by white families from birth, blacks people who are intensely involved in predominately white music/activities & people). Does that make them less black? I don’t think being black is just about the culture it’s solely your skin complexion
leslie ackley She had a black husband
So a black girl wear fake wigs. FAKE ALL... Fake straight hair....Lens and dye their hair with an unmatch blonde hair..but she cant.....black girls try to be white all time...Most Fat ppl wear work out clothes 24/7 and they just over eat,not exercise...ALSO SHE DOES HAVE BLACK ON HER LIKE ANY OF US
@@lovingpurrs8388 How is a black woman straightening her hair trying to be white or having blonde hair trying to be white??? Or wearing color contact lenses trying to be white???
@@TheMrsilverscott how is this white woman judged for having curls/afro and bashed as trying to be black???? I think my beautiful hair looks great straight or curls,unlike an african american person trying to force mother nature lol
"Which one you check tho" ? Tamar😂😂😂😂
G GFleur 😂😂😂😂
Favorite part of the whole video! XD
Right. She kept dancing around the question. I'm glad Tamar was there because none of the others would've checked her like that.
G GFleur Tamar was ready to go in. but she still remained professional. I miss her realness and presence so much on the show.
A transgender person wouldn't have gotten checked like that, or if so, it would've been distasteful and this show would've been under fire. they should all just let Rachel "be great" lol.
If only Amanda was here when they did this
Tamar face expressions 😂😂😂😂 she wasn't havin it 😂😂😂😂😂
She never answers the questions lol. Stop talking in circles just answer the damn questions! 😂
why .. so they can all jump down her throat
MoonLight Mystique then what’s the point of the questions? These were obviously outrageous statements being made and people want answers. Her circling around the answer just makes her look worse in my opinion
Jasmine B I noticed that too she kept talking in circles. She was like that in other interviews as well she never answers the questions.I don’t know what her problem is maybe she is just mad she got caught in this big lie.
"Yeah, but which one you checked tho? GO OFFFF 4:58
💯😂😂😂
You forgot to close your quotation ;)
@@hasibrahim 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
I didn’t read her book but supposedly she grew up with black foster brothers and a sister and wanted to be like them. She married a black man and had children. Doing that didn’t help her agenda so she told all them to be quiet and pretend she’s black/mixed and found a black man to pretend to be her father. She told lies and she knows she told lies…not counting the welfare fraud. She’s highly intelligent and a gifted artist and it’s a shame she brought this all on herself. I do get why she would hate where she really comes from tho.
If it only takes a dress for a man to become a woman, then this girl is my black sista! ✊🏿
Exactly, the issues of transgender and transracial totally mimic each other..
This woman needs to go to counseling tho. Transracial identity isn't a thing, it'll never be a thing. Rachel needs to just stop smh
I don't think she will stop. That's the craziest part. She just keeps pushing and pushing. She continues to identify as Black or with the Black culture, whichever it is now. She seems disturbed
yall aint calling transgender people disturbed...
you're right, she needs counseling, I think the problem is much deeper within her
She is mentally ill for sure...I think white guilt has gotten to her.
And what the hell do you consider a "thing." What do you call a four year old boy who identifies as a female? A thing? Id like to see you hop into a man's body for a few years, and see how long you last till you crack
why does she keep doing interviews?. same questions dumb response's I don't blame the host for being aggravated.
I was thinking the same
cuz she's getting paid for these interviews. since naacp dropped her, her income is real slim. i heard she's doing hair for a living now. who's paying her to touch their head? Girl that beats me...
Keisha Charmaine lmfao that is too funny! And yeah you are right its the money. I should've asked why do they keep interviewing her.. I watched just to see how Tamar would go in lmao!
+Brooklyn Native NYC gghh gm h hug h hug da GH h LJ h ng kidding you look k
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+Janice Williams hh
I wanna know more about the comparison between Kaitlyn and Rachel. Why can they accept one and not the other? I see that as a form of hypocrisy.
i agree
The thing with Caitlyn is different. She decided to change her gender. Rachel on the other hand is trying to change her race. And that’s something you can’t do. You are who you are and you should deal with it. Period.
@@mathewrodriguez175 With all due respect, do you realize how hypocritical that sounds? Why do you think someone can just decide to change their gender, but not their race?
"It's about how you feel and not how you are born." How privileged of you to say so.
I'm trynna learn how to dodge questions like sis 😂😂🤷🏽♀️
Mo's Hair IKR, she should be a politician 😂😂😂
When yall find out.. Holla at a sista know👀
Honestly, they all annoyed me in this. Like they conducted this interview with all their emotions and didn't "force" her to answer... Like I felt they went easy on her lolz
No hard to do, ask a transgender
"Have you walked the walk of a a black woman?" Rachel: "Absolutely." That is THE MOST OFFENSIVE THING I have ever heard come out of her mouth. I have no idea how those women around her are keeping themselves from slapping her.
Girl you took the words out of my mouth. I would have had producers cut the cameras and smacked the hell out of her
Oh wow, I’m just watching. White women are beautiful & so is she & Black women are beautiful as well.
Why wouldn’t she want to identify herself as a beautiful white women? Smh🤦🏾♀️
me too
As a black woman. I'm extremely offended by Rachel's answer. I wanted to reach through the screen and slap the hell out of her.
Stop it
So why is it ok to biologically be born one gender and yet “feel” like you identify as the other gender but not apply that same criteria when it comes to ethnicity?
Kudos for those women being so calm. I would have lost my cool! This is such a mockery.
Well, who gets to identify who? Some mixed people say they’re black but many other people will say they’re not black.
Now Bruce Jenner is the one yall need to be mad at!
Dang i'm here for the Audience lol they ain't holding back
Nooo respect 😭😭☠️
@@blech7615 the audience is funny
LMAO me too. They ruthless
The only thing that was stopping Tamar from gathering her was the camera and Tamara sitting between her.😂👏🏾
2:10 tamera looking like she did not want to be sitting in between Tamar and that lady
If she wants to be black let her be black, if that what she identifies herself as, it is just like Micheal jackson wanted to be white, people feel how they want to feel, there is lots of black people in my community who want lighter skin colour so they bleach there skin because they ‘feel’ there too dark and lot of us wear hair that straight like Indian, or Chinese, Brazilian to look like white women, but we are born with kinky Afro hair... and don’t get me start on our black people who act like ‘coconuts’ And do not want to embrace there own heritage and ethnicity! To be fair the only thing she did wrong was not own up that she born white and through growing up she felt she was born in the wrong colour instead of making people believe she was black, and I feel had she done that in the first place ... the black and white community would not socially discriminate her, apart from that she has the ‘right’ to feel how she wants to feel, there is so much other identity that get discriminated against such as black men who are gays, skin tones among the black community people will say Beyoncé is more beautiful than Adut Akech because she is light skin, and this very evident in the black community and I have experienced this as a dark skin women with thick Afro hair in my own black community. So to my conclusion people just need accept people who they are no matter what background they are from.
THANK YOU MsBlackpearl! Beautiful comment!!!
Why when they ask about her experience, she keeps going back to philosophy instead of just answering from her own personal experience.
Myisha Because otherwise she will have to either tell the truth or even more lies than she already has. She should be a politician, lol
because that's the way she talks
Because philosophy IS the language of life and living. I don't understand why people have a problem with depth in conversations. I don't agree with her, don't get me wrong, but there is nothing wrong with how she expresses herself. You should be more concerned with the amount of people living their lives according to fairy tales (aka religion) instead of philosophy!
She ain't have no personal experience that's why
SimplyKie
do you know about her and her siblings messed up child hood?
Tamar in her head was sayin “YOU TRIEDDDDD IT”
I could feel the tension as if anytime a fight could be started 😮, so hard to watch
Girl needs help period! How the hosts kept it together is beyond incredible!!
Tamar's face when she said the ticket thing
Tiesha Lawrence dawg u saw that too I had to stop the video 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Tamar doesn't know what being transracial is bless her. Rachel is black
@@paulgalvani2141 there is no such thing
She looked like her brain short circuited 😂
@@paulgalvani2141 she is NOT black! she was born white, trying to look or be black. Sit down sir, ma'am, whovea uu is!
This is the craziest thing I’ve seen in my entire existence.
You need to get out more🤔
Dawn Forcier so I now ?
This is almost as crazy as this transgender mess! Dumbest crap I've seen in a while!
Def up there
dominic k it’s fucked up
I’ve never heard the audience this live and active, Lord 😭😭usually they can just listen but ooohh they passionate
If Amanda seales were there the whole interview would have turned into something else.
If it was Tamar, Loni and Amanda with this heffa, she wouldn’t have known what hit her.
All these women were just talking to themselves. She never answered anything. Damn she's frustrating.
A lot of white people want to be "exotic" but dont want the struggle
Morgan Morale what the hell is the struggle ? 😂😂😂
as if you want the struggle
Morgan Morale period sis
@@leahmzee5290 What do you think it is?
Thank you
The police doesn’t just identify your race and write it in a ticket depending on what race they feel you are, it’s on your driver’s license and you provide your race when applying for a driver license. She’s full of BS.
The way she smirks and shrugs when she says "well the police mark me as black when they give me a ticket"...
This is probably the most embarrassing video i have ever seen! What is she talking about? Is she on this planet?
Dorian Graye As embarressing as her answers are. They are without substance, flippant and disregard other black people.
I mean, come on...she is black because a cop assumed such? She is black because of a tick box? Please! She is struggling to be validated and it is clear as day.
dawnDreamer..we are born in America racists country
dawnDreamer you are absolutely right her ass was talking in circles
Wtf why can't she just answer the question. We don't need a whole story.
Damn because she’s a fucking fraud
Word salad
Because the short answer is BS.
Because she feels their hostility and they're too wrong
They weren't intelligent enough host to interview her. Too emotional
She ain't hurt no one. Girl be black 🖤
This was not the place for this... interview, I guess they're calling it? Yeah. Not the place. None of these women are journalists. Loni's a "comedian" (I guess) and that other one is a "singer" (I guess) and they neither have the training nor the discipline to properly interview someone about something so clearly personal to them. Now... if they were just trying to have this be a "Oooh, let's have Loni and Tamar put Rachel in check" segment. Fine. But don't pass this off as a deep discussion about "Race vs. State of Mind"
I just said this without reading your comment. Thank you
A. Essence You're welcome!
True!
Why must you be a journalist to interview someone?? It is their show and she agreed. If that is the case no talk show host who is not a journalist should ever interview anyone...
+JoinNat&Nic The fact you don't understand why you need to be a journalist or at least journalism training to interview someone on broadcast television is indicative of why the media is so shoddy nowadays. You can't get to the truth of the topic being discussed or of the person being interviewed if you're to emotionally caught up in your personal opinion. It ceases being an interview and begins being a bash fest. You need to objective when presenting an issue to the masses. Let them make up their own mind. Rachel got flip with Tamar because Tamar came at her already not trying to hear her. Rachel felt defensive and then her answers stopped being even the least bit forthcoming and started being evasive to avoid any further confrontation. Nothing got resolved or answered in these five minutes. Definitely not about race vs state of mind.
She was beating around the bush and not getting straight to the point because she was trying to think of lies xDD
How would people react if we sat a transgender down and asked them the same questions?
Never thought of it that way. Interesting.
Very true
Could she have race dysphoria?
Not comparable at all. Transsexualism has basis in science.
Esteban Marin lmfao in SCIENCE? 😂😂😂😂
I am biracial but I look fully white. My dad is white and my mum is African Caribbean. My Life to this day has been so horribly sad because I look white and I feel black inside.
That's easy to correct. You are both and be proud of all your lineages.
That was a powerful question when Tamar asked her "You walk the walk of a black woman?" I have family members that resemble Rachel (the way she appears in this video today) and as a mixed race person myself who appears ambiguous, I find it interesting that while growing up in America, I was always told that because of my "one drop" of black blood that would make me black by default and that is how I should self-identify, however, I didn't walk the walk of a black woman so to say that I'm black exclusively feels like a lie, just as it would if I were to call myself a white woman, even though I am both. This is the reason why I insist on continuing to self-identify as a mixed race or biracial Hispanic woman. I feel that it's a slap in the face to black women (or black folks in general) to call yourself black when you don't look it or live the struggle. It comes across in the same way as this woman Rachel is doing, which is why she angers many black folks by living the lie that she's portraying. I can also see on the other hand why some black folks think that it's an honorable thing that she would want to take on the role of a black woman, but at the end of the day, she can change up her look whenever she decides to and "wash the black off" (and in her case, that would be literally to a certain extent) A true black person doesn't have that luxury.
Liz Vasquez She has not come close to the black experience..to ever think she is a Black woman...it takes alot more than braids! a hairstyle, or adopting a black kid TO BE BLACK! wut an insult!...
Exactlyyy I'm mixed with black but I can pass for other things so I can't say "I'm black." I'm mixed. I don't have the same experience
If one of your parents are black then you are black.
Well said👏🏻
@@FalconsZone6 NO they are mixed not just blk or wyt. Biracial not monoracial. Let go of the rayceast one drop rule. It does more harm than good to actual blk folks.
2:41 Tamar was not having it
Andi Muhammad you talking about Mrs. Nose job/ bleaching cream/ weave.
I was not having it either
She’s brave. There’re a lot more people like her out here in the world.
Your resentment (for whites or Rachel) won’t erase our existence/ experiences
We are human just like you and are who we say we are:
BELIEVE IT OR NOT: it’s our truth
History has shown us time and again to listen to the “other” and accept people for who and what they say they are.
If your argument is based on mental illness then so is homosexuality and transsexuality alike. No cherry picking!
Let it be.
The heat coming off that couch! Listening to her answers is exhausting. She NEVER answers a question and just goes around it
Who’s here after Jeannie saying she didn’t want to be well mannered to Rachel? Oct 2019 anyone 🙋🏼♀️
Me ahahaha
Meeeeee!
Which video did she say that??
Edie Ha one of the newer episodes maybe 2 weeks ago.
Eileen Welter 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She's trying to sound smart and it's just not working out for her. Yes, Rachel has done all these things for the black community which is why so many uncle Toms--I mean black people are taking up for her. All that could have been done without turning yourself into a BW. Neither does she need to turn herself into a BW to like our culture. She can talk the talk but she truly hasn't walked the walk of a BW in today's world which is why I understand Tamar's point. You think you know our struggles simply because you put weave in your head, get spray tanned, and claimed your black brother as your son. No amount of makeup, box braids, black husbands, or charity work for the black community will ever make her a black woman. And that's pure fact. #SorryButSureAsHellNotSorry
+Danielle A. Exactly!!! And she could have done even more as a white women.
DMadkin08 She really could have because white privilege is an advantage that she could have turned around for good and use to help the black community.
+Danielle A. Agree
***** See, I already knew someone like you was gonna say something like this. I never stated that every black person with different views to this situation are now uncle Toms. However, I would declare a person an uncle Tom, if the only reason they're taking up for her foolishness is because she's done stuff for the black community.
I agree completely.
did she say she walked the walk as a black woman because she got marked as black on a parking ticket !?? really ?!?! the most offensive thing ever . police men mark your parking ticket but the also mark real black people with bullets wounds & bruises .. i find this disgusting and im only 14 years old .
I don't understand what the big deal is some men identify as women so why can't she identify as black.
She looks white with a tan lmao
Nadia A. That's all it is. It's a cosmetic prefrence. Her claim to be black has more to do w anger at her biological family - you can tell from other interviews she hates them
..and
Nadia A And she is naturally lily white.
Because she is lol
@@johnlamphier9812 And I don't really blame her who knows the racism she may have witnessed at their very hands...I think it has a lot to do with how the black adopted child was treated at the hands of her brother and how their parents handled that....that can leave a deep impression on the minds of CHILDREN and scar them for life...I don't blame u Dozela gurl....do u!!!! After all Michael Jackson turned himself WHITE for the very same reason...the abuses of his father/family LOL!
The fact that she keeps avoiding the questions...🤦🏽♀️🙄
Now this is an interview where I would love to see Amanda Seales input
I like how even in a serious conversation Tamar still says get yo life lol 🤣