depends on your location, where i live i pay 45€ for up to 5 mbps and some of these satellites can do up to 300 kbps so it would actually kinda be worth it
@@-someone-.the internet wont be up when doomsday arrives😂 who do you think is gonna maintain all those services, websites, apps, games, data centers, etc?
Facts... UA-cam was way better in the 2000s. We used to watch homemade car vids in 2003-2005 on my homies moms computer. We all had flip phones/nextels with chirp. Only way to watch UA-cam was on pC.
@@gremiridI have no intention to contribute to arguments here. I would like to know, what experience do you have which makes you sure they are secure? Satellites of all kinds are known to have a lack in security, authentication services and encryption, last time I checked. It would be interesting to hear otherwise
Talk about microwave safety, My late father was a Naval Radio Technician during WWII. He was assigned to the super secret Radar training on an island in Galveston Bay, Texas. He really liked the training course, as they were absolutely forbidden from bringing pen and paper to the island. Anyway, during the training, they had a small radar system with a rotating antenna. The course instructor ordered the men to one side of the room, and stopped the antenna facing the other direction. He put a hot dog on a stick and cooked it. Then he turned it back on, Dad said it felt like a heat lamp rotating around. Safety Third!
The concept of using microwaves for cooking food came from radar development. A WW2 engineer discovered that he could melt a chocolate bar with the radar signal. The power from my antenna isn't anywhere near what's needed to do that so don't you worry, I'm not running a primary radar system here.
Can't help but wonder if the LORAN systems from that time period caused cancer... my grandpa served in New Guinea during WW2 as a radar tech... thanks for your father's service
@@manonamission2000 I don't think that it is possible for non-ionizing radiation to cause cancer. The only type of non-ionizing radiation that I know of that can have an effect on humans is Very low frequency RF used for submarine communication. I remember reading a report that was written in the 70s which summarized the effects of VLF Rf on humans that were observed during various tests. The summary basically said that VLF can have an effect on humans but only if a powerful transmitter(I don't remember the exact value but it was something like a kilowatt) is used and the person is near it. And it didn't mention anything about cancer or something like that. Only things like tremors and an increased heart rate which were speculated to be somehow caused by VLF RF interferring with the nervous system. Edit: Just wanted to add that If you have a high powered transmitter that RF can cook you but I think that was not worth mentioning because almost no amateur has a access to a several kilowatt transmitter xD.
You may be able to receive our GOES-East and GOES-West weather imaging and space weather data from the GOES Rebroadcast (GRB). You appear to have the equipment to do so.
Retro? Which one? That rotary phone is the pinnacle of technology and the wireless home phone is just a passing fad like the home computer. Vacuum tubes are the future!
Yup. Can't blame the guy either. Satellite-guy didn't like people. So he applied for the satellite job, cuz they said "It's lonely at the top"... But then there was Peter ;) Great content btw 👍🏻
It’s a prank caller! This feels like the time that people hacked the telephone system so they could make free calls. Very interesting to see this. Keep on making the videos!
Fun fact: before Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak made the original Apple Computer, they made Blue Boxes, small devices used to "phreak" phone networks. In an alternate timeline, Apple is nothing more than some defunct phone phreaking company
I had this sinking feeling of this guy being the last person on earth and to pass the time he calls himself just to hear the familiar sound of a phone ringing and talks to himself with the delay to have some tiny fleeting feeling of another human to talk to. 😢
As an ex Satellite internet NOC, I can say the operator actually know when you try to beam the unauthorized frequency to the satellite ,and they would get an automated notification from the system. However, there nothing that they can do beside asking everyone who had leased or leasing the satellite's bands to investigate. Blocking the line is the last thing they want to do.
Years ago, I was working for the company that made that diamond shaped dish, This one day I get a call from SES Americom, asking me for some help finding a wildcat transmitter. They knew we built good quality VSAT terminals, which is exactly what they needed for use as a reference station. I just so happened to have a test dish up on the roof, and the ability to lock the frequency to our GPS frequency reference. Using their precise knowledge of the orbits of the geostationary satellites and thus the doppler, as well as the side lobes coming from a bird 4 satellites away, they were able to nail down the offending transmitter to an ellipse of about 0.5 by 1 mile ellipse. It was pretty cool, and I got some great SES Americom swag out of it.
@austist In theory, most of the places required you to have a license to transmit satellite signals. By transmitting illegal signals, it usually violates local laws, and satellite vendors can contact local authorities for help. Also, SAT vendor can track the origin of the signal with pretty good accuracy. However, from my experience, local authorities are basically useless, and SAT vendors usually just block that part of bandwidth on the beam.
Peter congratulations on your excellent and differentiated work on satellite telecommunications, satellite TV and things like that. I'm a satellite TV and telecommunications enthusiast here in Brazil and I always follow your videos! Your content is really great and you can share some of your knowledge!
I second this. The content most interesting to me is produced by people who passionately describe the rabbit hole in all its forms and content. Very impressive. Like the server hw too. Ex-Dreambox user here ^^
One of the networks on a broadcast FM station I engineer for uses the same Newtec modem setup that lets them talk to all their equipment at the site and send the audio that goes over the air. It's very reliable from what I have seen. We use a very similar telephone box for remote broadcasts. These days it's cell from that back to the studios but I still have an old VHF link I can use in some cases.
I get old UA-cam vibes. Videos like this are the reason i originally started watching UA-cam videos more often back in the day when videos were made by people for people to share. Wish you were my neighbor, stuff like this is awesome and i wish i could've gone into it but i never had the chance to mess with stuff like this, find what is does and how to use it find other uses for it. Maybe one day when i stop living at work and have freetime for stuff like this ill definitely give it a try
Youd feel radiating heat, nothing that will turn you into ash but definitely uncomfortable briefly and painful if you stood for a minute@@Daniel-ng8fi
So how is this working without account/subscription/billing etc.? Surely a service like this would be very expensive- is it that the modems are registered to an account that's still active with credit?
Satellites are one of the most unexplored systems with lots of easy opportunities up there with so many satellites and insecure services. You just need the right equipment and expertise to gain access.
@@peterfairlie2296 I am still confused. I have an old ShawDirect system with dish,buc, and modem. It is not authorized. Can I use it to do what you are doing? Thanks
Someone is paying the bills from the ip it looks like that someone is Network Innovations Inc either unknowingly because of some exploit or knowingly for certain people
The tests you have carried out are very good, at the moment I am using a Google translator because I speak Spanish. The problem with choppy and delayed sound is because you need a GPS or the modem software to be synchronized with time. Every telecommunications system requires that both sender and receiver must be synchronized and this is so that the signal frame is sent and received in a synchronized manner and not at the wrong time. If you use TDMA frame, it is demanding that it needs to be synchronized.
I think he is loosing half the packets. Probably the VoIP adapter is set to 64kbps (8kHz uLaw or something), while his link is only 32kbps. The modem does internal TDMA synchronization.
sync is embedded in carrier, gps only required for auto beam/sat selection in modem for auto pointing vsat antenna using openAmip. fixed vsat doesn't require a gps either.
He has a video where he has a bunch of phones set up in the back yard - I thought the same thing but then looked out my front door in our upper middle class, brand new neighbourhood and see my neighbour being tackled by the cops and meth scattered all over the street. I’d love this guy as my neighbour. He’d never get rid of me lol
I just took down my Dish Network Dish and thought of these kind of videos! I won't be making any phone calls or hacking but it was a funny thought. Love these kinds of videos!
😂😂😂44,600 miles. Hey man. Good for you! You're clearly very smart and worked very hard at getting the things you need to do the things you want to. I admire your drive for sure.
Peter, I've been watching since you did your video about the Flipper Zero and traffic lights. Love your videos! They've helped me understand a lot more about satellites and communication systems in general. I'm more well versed in cybersecurity, but satellites have always peaked my interest. Keep it up!
I’m an 0627, Satellite Systems Transmission Operator, with the USMC. It’s surrreal seeing a random guy using equipment like this lol. I’ve worked with up to 2.4m dish but this is super cool. What Spectrum Analyzer do you use? Also, who do you call to do a peak and pull on the civilian side?
6:47 😂 I was a telco contractor for 15 years and developed an interest in the history and evolution of the PSTN. I also listened to many of Evan Doorbell's phone trips. Man, the old mechanically switched network must've been crazy!
I worked on the relay system in the UK. Also worked on the very first computer controlled pbx system. I left the industry in the late 70s but was working for a computer company and ended up working on some of the first mobile phone systems didn't intend to.
The channel "This Museum Does Not Exist" has one of those mechanical systems set up and running, really worth a look! I think i may have found some archival industry footage or something on youtube as well.
Man, I think I'm going to love this channel. I really feel I was born 10/20 years too late and should have been an early phreaker and hacker. You can't get away with that stuff today - this dude is definitely on some lists after a bewildered 5 Eyes desk jockey heard that phone conversion he had with himself 😂
2006-2007. 3km from moscow small suburb. ADSL is too expensive, dial up slow. no 3g signal. What a mistake I made when asked my parents to get satellite internet and get 600ms ping because of slowest GPRS upload via mobile network lol. Probably saved my childhood...
This seems like it would be great for some type of disaster relief situation where communication is limited, you could setup 2-4 phones (like you said) and let people take turns calling family/other services.
I'm in the army and funnily enough we actually do use a similar setup for specifically that! ESB-E's are tasked with providing communications in environments where you likely don't have commercial internet and we can deploy our equipment to do exactly that, we can support close to 250 phones off of one team!
@@thewhitefalcon8539 problem with ham is someone has to be on the other end waiting. I love ham and am licensed, but it's not a perfect solution for all situations.
the G729 codec is only about 8Kbps so you should be able to make a pretty solid phone call unless you have it set to G711 which is 64Kbps but is toll quality. I set up a mesh network for Yukon Government on C-Band using those SIP ATA's and UHP modems - What a fun Project. Have you used the UHP sat modems ?
@@Marcianisto Theres lots of super low bandwidth codecs like Speex and orther proprietary ones. The SIP ATA supports: : G.711, G.723.1, G.729A/B, G.728, G.726, iLBC, T.38 and the nice thing about them is they are compact embedded analog telephony adaptors where it is the only piece of hardware you need besides a POTS phone and an internet connection in the field. You can make them call eachother directly ATA to ATA on whatever dial plan you want, you can change the ringing style and about a thousand other parameters. They meet or exceed an Asterisk system in the field for lots of reasons. The only time I have seen one break is because a PhD Geologist pressed & held the reset button in while rebooting it (which takes real skill) and it bricked the device as it was looking for a new firmware update. Other than that the only thing that screws them up is SIP VoIP traffic traversing NAT's.
Great video fellow Ontarian! G711u (full range, low compression) uses around 75-85kib/s, G729 (highly compressed) is 30kib/s. Sounds like your latency was about 1.25sec per dish. But the 711u bandwidth might have been what was killing the smooth clarity from the receiver. Curious if you could have a clean phone call with both on 729 :)
I was thinking the same when I noticed the IP address he got is in an ASN owned by US Electrodynamics Inc who are a satellite gateway company that boast they carry "Mission critical DOD services" according to their website.
@@neodonkeyI have nerdy hobbies and interests and one time a marine recruiter was at my house talking to me... My mom's boyfriend at the time pulled into the driveway sat for about 2 seconds and then immediately backed out... He came back about an hour later and said, "Man I just seen US government plates on that car and I didn't know what the heck was going on" 😂
Modem, L-Band TX to BUC (block up converter) that looks to be combined with your SSPA (solid state power amplifier). RX side LNB through L-band to the modem. Or LNA to down converter then modem. It's fun doing this sort of stuff.
@@peterfairlie2296 It isn't the size of someone's appature that matters, it's how you use it. OK that is a lie. The smaller the apprature, the wider the 3dB down beam width. I would rather have a larger antenna. I have operated from 1m up to about 3.4m parabolic reflectors and associated equipment. Good content.
After watching this beautiful video I was seeking for the hardware list before I recognized my Portemonnaie is actually probably a bit tight for this new Hobby 🎉😂 awesome video, beautiful vibes, thank you!
How much would you charge to set up a unit like that at our office grid ranch? Or can I buy a package from you with all the equipment to “plug and play”? We have a 200 ft tall antenna to mount the dish to. The free internet part isn’t why I’m interested, we’re in a remote area we’re 100% off grid and a phone line with internet is huge for safety.
Years ago I remember finding out there was a star code you could enter before the number you dialed that asked the network to use undersea cable instead of satellite when making a transatlantic call. I believe the use case was for modems which struggled with the satellite latency.
This was my job in the Air Force. Combat Communications, we set up equipment like this in austere environments so we could communicate. Both ground radio and SATCOM. When we upgraded to 50Mbit modems I thought it was infinite bandwidth lolol.
I've actually uplinked, transmitted, at 20 Mbps using this gear. The BUC was pushing 50 Watts into the antenna to accomplish that rate. I have the capability of 25 Mbps up and down around 100 Mbps.
Is it possible to build a satellite setup, (To test the internet connection) without it being crazy expensive? (Cost of the dish and what not). I can't seem to find much on how to build something like that or find the right parts.
I have a 3000 Watt data center APC UP's connected to a 48 volt 40 Amp hour battery bank. And that's just to keep the power going before the generator kicks in.
50Watts?! That’s nothing. I have a microwave that’s 800W and it’ll even make my dinner for me 😂 I enjoyed the video thanks. I love this sort of stuff. Well done sir.
Fax requires a smooth and jitter free connection. It's a nightmare trying to get it to run over VoIP at the best of times, it would never work over this.
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I suppose it would be enough to send WhatsApp, iMessage, etc., because these things tend to still work on GPRS. Don't know about the ping though.
My internet bill is definitely enough to buy the set up many times over… especially since i've paid it monthly for over decades now. The price is climbing too, with the excuse "the rest of ur neighborhood is already upgraded so urs would be having trouble at times."
I just want you to know, you will never get to fully understand the amount of lives you are saving by posting this information, these videos you've been posting. I know it might sound far-fetched and silly, given some of the things. Your videos are a godsend to a certain few of us. Godspeed, Fairlie
Saving lives is good, because victims never really do get to respawn like in videogames no matter what any 10% weekly wallet's content's cash grabbing organized crime group says so they can keep smilingly ripping people off for that motivational 10%.
Very interesting. Quite a collection of stuff you have to make it work. I’m in rural Australia and my internet connection is a Geostationary Satellite as well. Interestingly the round trip time is also 600ms but the throughput is 25Mbps down and 5Mbps up. They have faster tears but it only works when congestion is low. Cost around $65 AU per month and includes a phone! It’s useable but I don’t bother as the delay is a bit of a pain.
You don't own or operate a server. In respect of the PSTN replacement, you plug your fixed line analogue telephone in to a port on the back of your broadband router. The router is the only equipment you need, and an optional UPS to provide power in the case of a power failure. The router is connected to your internet provider who also provides (provided) the PSTN service. So the Telco company that provided you with your fixed line analogue phone service will provide your VoIP service. That Telco that assigned your phone number to the fixed line phone connection will assign the phone number to the fixed line phone on your VoIP connection. IP addresses come into it, SIP and database services. Quite what happens when your Telco providing your PSTN fixed line service is a VNO running over Openreach, I am not sure, but I would anticipate that the VNO still ensures you get the same phone number assigned to that fixed line phone when it is connected in to the VoIP network - as that is fundamentally important. The transitipn to VoIP from the PSTN needs to be as seamless for the customer as possible. Therefore I envisage a technical solution where the VNO provides data to Openreach and Openreach register your IP address and the phone number provided by the VNO into their _database services_ application. All phones on the network have to be registered. It is likely that number ranges have been allocated to each VNO, and for the addition of new communication services the VNO can pick a number from their allotted range. Other approaches are possible but I suspect this is the most likely.
First call was soooo cool! It didn’t work! I hope that wasn’t a friend you called, you gave out their number and if it was a random person I’d be annoyed at getting a random gibberish call! Nice setup though and quite educational. I’m assuming you can gain access to a higher bandwidth satellite connection if you tried? Anyways was a fairly good video on satellite access for computers.
Peter, great stuff! Are you an IT Dude or Ham radio geek? (I am both :-D) I love microwaves and was one of the few who modified magnetron from certain oven and used it on 13cm as phased lock for EME.... (about 500W CW into 3meters dish....nice)
What is the worst thing that can happen to you as far as rf radiation from this setup, 50w @14GHz? It's not ionizing right? So at the absolute worst you'd get kinda hot or would it be worse?maybe like a sunburn maybe or is it more like it will literally microwave your insides?
Pretty cool setup although not real practical unless you need a mobile rig. Did a lot of C and KU band satellite installs and service work from the 1980 to late 90s, got out of C band and residential work when the mini dishes took over. I did do a few commercial internet dish installs in the late 90s, they were pretty iffy back then, the equipment was really lacking.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume a regular internet bill is going to be cheaper than this free internet setup
As with many things, it depends on where you are. The Amazon doesn't have good fiber internet
Well, you have to pay the internet bill monthly/yearly. This is a one-time fee. Slow, but pretty cool!
depends on your location, where i live i pay 45€ for up to 5 mbps and some of these satellites can do up to 300 kbps so it would actually kinda be worth it
@@-someone-.the internet wont be up when doomsday arrives😂 who do you think is gonna maintain all those services, websites, apps, games, data centers, etc?
@@-someone-. And you don't have to pay you're loans if capitalism collapses... ask Josip Tito how did that turn out
this video feels like a portal to 2012 when youtube was fun and filled with tech and diy videos, love it
Facts... UA-cam was way better in the 2000s. We used to watch homemade car vids in 2003-2005 on my homies moms computer. We all had flip phones/nextels with chirp. Only way to watch UA-cam was on pC.
@@Bovada-c3ibro UA-cam’s not up until 2005 what u talking about
There are way more tech and DIY videos right now than in 2012, UA-cam in 2012 was dominated by gaming.
@@Hairyson-g5j and even then it was a dating site lmfao
There are still the same type of vids out there, you just can’t rely on the algorithm to find them for you. Way more now than then by magnitudes.
this channel gives early 2010s vibe and i love it.
I love to hear that I have that original UA-cam vibe of 2010. YT has become very generic with everyone doing the same thing. Thanks!
You can certainly rest assured, you may be many things but normal isn't one of them 👍@@peterfairlie2296
@@peterfairlie2296Yeee. I remember the early days of UA-cam while I was in middle school, in 2000.
@@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
UA-cam diddnt exist until 2005
Yea, and when I saw this in the recommended I was shocked how UA-cam would give me something like this in 2024.
I just watched a guy call himself on the telephone, over and over, for half an hour. And it stirred me with envy.
not a single video in sight of guys calling themselves on the phone which is as satisfying as this one
Ditto
Beautiful, wasn't it. :)
same
i dont envy the 50k bill for all that equipment though lol
"What is this noise?"
"oh, our neighbor is using the internet again!"
My neighbors just think I'm vacuuming my house again
"What are those sunburn like blisters on my face?" more like.
@@ArmageddonAfterparty haha
@@ArmageddonAfterparty ahahahahaha
Sounds like a dam robot just woke up
Some russian military base:
“Comrade, our satelites been hijacked”
“What are they doing?”
“Looking at cat pictures and saying hello multiple times”
@@gremirid Согласен, товарищ.
@@gremirid it is bad
@@gremirid No it isn't. Not when the security was made by the 'highest bidder' oligarch.
@@gremiridI have no intention to contribute to arguments here. I would like to know, what experience do you have which makes you sure they are secure? Satellites of all kinds are known to have a lack in security, authentication services and encryption, last time I checked. It would be interesting to hear otherwise
*...satellites _have_ been...
Talk about microwave safety, My late father was a Naval Radio Technician during WWII. He was assigned to the super secret Radar training on an island in Galveston Bay, Texas.
He really liked the training course, as they were absolutely forbidden from bringing pen and paper to the island.
Anyway, during the training, they had a small radar system with a rotating antenna. The course instructor ordered the men to one side of the room, and stopped the antenna
facing the other direction. He put a hot dog on a stick and cooked it. Then he turned it back on, Dad said it felt like a heat lamp rotating around. Safety Third!
The concept of using microwaves for cooking food came from radar development. A WW2 engineer discovered that he could melt a chocolate bar with the radar signal. The power from my antenna isn't anywhere near what's needed to do that so don't you worry, I'm not running a primary radar system here.
Not powerful enough. You need some Serious power behind it to cook something.
Can't help but wonder if the LORAN systems from that time period caused cancer... my grandpa served in New Guinea during WW2 as a radar tech... thanks for your father's service
@@manonamission2000 I don't think that it is possible for non-ionizing radiation to cause cancer.
The only type of non-ionizing radiation that I know of that can have an effect on humans is Very low frequency RF used for submarine communication.
I remember reading a report that was written in the 70s which summarized the effects of VLF Rf on humans that were observed during various tests.
The summary basically said that VLF can have an effect on humans but only if a powerful transmitter(I don't remember the exact value but it was something like a kilowatt) is used and the person is near it.
And it didn't mention anything about cancer or something like that.
Only things like tremors and an increased heart rate which were speculated to be somehow caused by VLF RF interferring with the nervous system.
Edit: Just wanted to add that If you have a high powered transmitter that RF can cook you but I think that was not worth mentioning because almost no amateur has a access to a several kilowatt transmitter xD.
@@peterfairlie2296#PrimerFields. Magnetic arrays.
Harness the power of it awl
Just rang your bell. Greetings from the NOAA Satellite Operations Center!
Hi Scott, thanks for your call I did receive your message! Is thee anything interesting on the NOAA GOES satellites I should be checking out?
You may be able to receive our GOES-East and GOES-West weather imaging and space weather data from the GOES Rebroadcast (GRB). You appear to have the equipment to do so.
This has got to be one of the coolest interactions i've ever seen on this godforsaken site
I agree
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the retro phone is just icing on the cake
I thought the camo was it but you’re right
Imagine that damned phone ringing in the middle of the night with some alien voices speaking on the line 🫠
Retro? Which one? That rotary phone is the pinnacle of technology and the wireless home phone is just a passing fad like the home computer. Vacuum tubes are the future!
Retro as in a house phone at all!
That second call was def. the guy in the satellite asking why you're calling.
Yup. Can't blame the guy either. Satellite-guy didn't like people. So he applied for the satellite job, cuz they said "It's lonely at the top"... But then there was Peter ;)
Great content btw 👍🏻
It’s a prank caller! This feels like the time that people hacked the telephone system so they could make free calls. Very interesting to see this. Keep on making the videos!
Phone phreaking, some would call it
I think captain crunch would have a difficult time lugging that stuff around.
Fun fact: before Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak made the original Apple Computer, they made Blue Boxes, small devices used to "phreak" phone networks. In an alternate timeline, Apple is nothing more than some defunct phone phreaking company
I had this sinking feeling of this guy being the last person on earth and to pass the time he calls himself just to hear the familiar sound of a phone ringing and talks to himself with the delay to have some tiny fleeting feeling of another human to talk to. 😢
lol.
Would make a good sci-fi movie!
Now this would make for a fantastic scifi-themed book. Love it!
As an ex Satellite internet NOC, I can say the operator actually know when you try to beam the unauthorized frequency to the satellite ,and they would get an automated notification from the system. However, there nothing that they can do beside asking everyone who had leased or leasing the satellite's bands to investigate. Blocking the line is the last thing they want to do.
Exactly!
Years ago, I was working for the company that made that diamond shaped dish, This one day I get a call from SES Americom, asking me for some help finding a wildcat transmitter. They knew we built good quality VSAT terminals, which is exactly what they needed for use as a reference station. I just so happened to have a test dish up on the roof, and the ability to lock the frequency to our GPS frequency reference. Using their precise knowledge of the orbits of the geostationary satellites and thus the doppler, as well as the side lobes coming from a bird 4 satellites away, they were able to nail down the offending transmitter to an ellipse of about 0.5 by 1 mile ellipse. It was pretty cool, and I got some great SES Americom swag out of it.
so theres nothing they can do about it?
whats preventing you from making this connection stronger or spoofing that authorization?
@austist In theory, most of the places required you to have a license to transmit satellite signals. By transmitting illegal signals, it usually violates local laws, and satellite vendors can contact local authorities for help. Also, SAT vendor can track the origin of the signal with pretty good accuracy. However, from my experience, local authorities are basically useless, and SAT vendors usually just block that part of bandwidth on the beam.
@@Sakura__Ayane Im very much not aware of any of this but this is awesome to learn about.
This is awesome. I love living in an age where I can watch a guy do technomancy for free on my phone while I eat soup. Knowledge is power.
Liked and subbed. That's incredible! Whoever knows how much work is required to reach that level of engineering will be AMAZED!
As an amateur radio operator and starlink user, this is awesome!
Peter congratulations on your excellent and differentiated work on satellite telecommunications, satellite TV and things like that. I'm a satellite TV and telecommunications enthusiast here in Brazil and I always follow your videos! Your content is really great and you can share some of your knowledge!
Thank you kindly!
I second this.
The content most interesting to me is produced by people who passionately describe the rabbit hole in all its forms and content.
Very impressive. Like the server hw too.
Ex-Dreambox user here ^^
@@-r-495 Thanks! I have a couple of Dreambox 7020's that I will be doing some videos on in the near future.
@CB-Patricksuper cereal
Old Skool Phone Phreaking. Reminds me of the 90's. Awesome.
it was fun how easy you could mess with payphones back then.
These videos are great learning and watching. I love the way the dishes scan around for a satellite.
Thanks for watching!
One of the networks on a broadcast FM station I engineer for uses the same Newtec modem setup that lets them talk to all their equipment at the site and send the audio that goes over the air. It's very reliable from what I have seen. We use a very similar telephone box for remote broadcasts. These days it's cell from that back to the studios but I still have an old VHF link I can use in some cases.
Most original video I've seen in a long time. Nature must be healing.
(Sent over copper cable internet from English countryside)
I get old UA-cam vibes. Videos like this are the reason i originally started watching UA-cam videos more often back in the day when videos were made by people for people to share. Wish you were my neighbor, stuff like this is awesome and i wish i could've gone into it but i never had the chance to mess with stuff like this, find what is does and how to use it find other uses for it. Maybe one day when i stop living at work and have freetime for stuff like this ill definitely give it a try
Given the hazard of walking in front of the uplink, this really is a burner phone.
hahahah 😁
what would happen if you did? Would you have ot stand in front of it for a while for anything to happen?
@@Daniel-ng8fi its microwaves so i assume it comes with the same risks as a microwave in your home that's been cut open
Youd feel radiating heat, nothing that will turn you into ash but definitely uncomfortable briefly and painful if you stood for a minute@@Daniel-ng8fi
In other words, an almost negligible risk of corneal damage via microwave heating?
This is in fact the best vidoe ive seen posted to the internet in well over a decade.
Wow Thanks! Much appreciated !
So how is this working without account/subscription/billing etc.? Surely a service like this would be very expensive- is it that the modems are registered to an account that's still active with credit?
Satellites are one of the most unexplored systems with lots of easy opportunities up there with so many satellites and insecure services. You just need the right equipment and expertise to gain access.
If anyone knows anything about electronics Mike is my man!
@@peterfairlie2296 I am still confused. I have an old ShawDirect system with dish,buc, and modem. It is not authorized. Can I use it to do what you are doing? Thanks
All the intel agencies are totally like who is this guy lol
Someone is paying the bills from the ip it looks like that someone is Network Innovations Inc either unknowingly because of some exploit or knowingly for certain people
UA-cam LISTEN UP, THIS IS WHAT I WANT IN MY ALGORITHM. SCREW YOUR SHORTS
The tests you have carried out are very good, at the moment I am using a Google translator because I speak Spanish. The problem with choppy and delayed sound is because you need a GPS or the modem software to be synchronized with time. Every telecommunications system requires that both sender and receiver must be synchronized and this is so that the signal frame is sent and received in a synchronized manner and not at the wrong time. If you use TDMA frame, it is demanding that it needs to be synchronized.
I think he is loosing half the packets. Probably the VoIP adapter is set to 64kbps (8kHz uLaw or something), while his link is only 32kbps. The modem does internal TDMA synchronization.
sync is embedded in carrier, gps only required for auto beam/sat selection in modem for auto pointing vsat antenna using openAmip.
fixed vsat doesn't require a gps either.
Don't pick that phone up. You may exit the matrix.
ikr. that telephone gives me matrix vibes.
nah, it's not a hardline
It doesn't need to be Neo @@TheAechBomb
And......... he's gone...
7 days........
The neighbours love this guy 😂
there are worse things than fan noises tbh
He has a video where he has a bunch of phones set up in the back yard - I thought the same thing but then looked out my front door in our upper middle class, brand new neighbourhood and see my neighbour being tackled by the cops and meth scattered all over the street. I’d love this guy as my neighbour. He’d never get rid of me lol
"That guy is contacting aliens again" I could see neighbors saying that 😂.
My neighbors love me an some even subscribe to my channel... so no issues there. I'm known as the "Satellite UA-cam Guy" in my hood.
@@peterfairlie2296 i did guess so, you are a pretty cool content creator and do really interesting stuff
I just took down my Dish Network Dish and thought of these kind of videos! I won't be making any phone calls or hacking but it was a funny thought. Love these kinds of videos!
😂😂😂44,600 miles. Hey man. Good for you! You're clearly very smart and worked very hard at getting the things you need to do the things you want to. I admire your drive for sure.
Peter, I've been watching since you did your video about the Flipper Zero and traffic lights. Love your videos! They've helped me understand a lot more about satellites and communication systems in general. I'm more well versed in cybersecurity, but satellites have always peaked my interest. Keep it up!
Hey Elliot, always great to hear that Mr. Robot is learning from me!
@@peterfairlie2296 haha! One of my favorite shows!
Same ✋
I'm an electrical engineer. I'm so happy to see someone showing this kind of tech. In my country I'm never getting those devices to test
I’m an 0627, Satellite Systems Transmission Operator, with the USMC. It’s surrreal seeing a random guy using equipment like this lol. I’ve worked with up to 2.4m dish but this is super cool. What Spectrum Analyzer do you use? Also, who do you call to do a peak and pull on the civilian side?
An old-school Tektronix 1705A ua-cam.com/video/Anq3Lz4OK0I/v-deo.html
That phone call is almost better than what I can get with my Iridium satellite phone! At least it doesn't drop out! 😂
6:47 😂 I was a telco contractor for 15 years and developed an interest in the history and evolution of the PSTN. I also listened to many of Evan Doorbell's phone trips. Man, the old mechanically switched network must've been crazy!
I worked on the relay system in the UK. Also worked on the very first computer controlled pbx system. I left the industry in the late 70s but was working for a computer company and ended up working on some of the first mobile phone systems didn't intend to.
The channel "This Museum Does Not Exist" has one of those mechanical systems set up and running, really worth a look! I think i may have found some archival industry footage or something on youtube as well.
@@ericlotze7724 The channel's name is actually "THIS MUSEUM IS (NOT) OBSOLETE".
Man, I think I'm going to love this channel. I really feel I was born 10/20 years too late and should have been an early phreaker and hacker. You can't get away with that stuff today - this dude is definitely on some lists after a bewildered 5 Eyes desk jockey heard that phone conversion he had with himself 😂
This is all so cool, born in the 90s I do remember dial up and it's just amazing how technology evolves.
3:38 well, dial up is analog phone line and ISDN is 2 slightly higher quality digital phone lines aka 2 64 kbit/s channels. So yes, very similar !
I miss the 1990s when I had a C-BAND dish in back yard, with a Toshiba tuner.😪
You just know you've fucked up when you see a commercial airliner coming through the garden hedgerow 🙈😂
You've taken talking to your self to another level!
2006-2007. 3km from moscow small suburb. ADSL is too expensive, dial up slow. no 3g signal. What a mistake I made when asked my parents to get satellite internet and get 600ms ping because of slowest GPRS upload via mobile network lol. Probably saved my childhood...
.."this is my cat's website"
😅😅😅
This seems like it would be great for some type of disaster relief situation where communication is limited, you could setup 2-4 phones (like you said) and let people take turns calling family/other services.
I'm in the army and funnily enough we actually do use a similar setup for specifically that! ESB-E's are tasked with providing communications in environments where you likely don't have commercial internet and we can deploy our equipment to do exactly that, we can support close to 250 phones off of one team!
Ham radio
@@thewhitefalcon8539 yeah Ham radio is great, I use it too, but it's not always the best option, this would be a great extra option.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 problem with ham is someone has to be on the other end waiting. I love ham and am licensed, but it's not a perfect solution for all situations.
6:46 Hello. I'm talking to myself over a satellite. Sounds like shit, but it works. 🤣 That's funny and awesome
I guess this is cool on a few levels although its a little bit futile . Nice to see someone else talks to themselves to test equipment . Nice work.
True science is a thin line between futility and failure. It inspires me to equally futile goals.
The shenanigans on this channel are amazing
Getting the vibes when i was first using UA-cam, it was fun back then, miss that old one ngl
The mixer is a tie line. Still used extensively in junior hockey for the show to go from the rink to the radio station.
yeah, this was was used by CTV news.
the G729 codec is only about 8Kbps so you should be able to make a pretty solid phone call unless you have it set to G711 which is 64Kbps but is toll quality. I set up a mesh network for Yukon Government on C-Band using those SIP ATA's and UHP modems - What a fun Project. Have you used the UHP sat modems ?
maybe I should have watched the whole video before commenting... LMAO
yeah, I did test using G729 and it made a huge difference !
What about using Codec2? It would require Asterisk in both sides and sounds terrible, but hey, it works at 1.2 kbps
@@Marcianisto Theres lots of super low bandwidth codecs like Speex and orther proprietary ones. The SIP ATA supports: : G.711, G.723.1, G.729A/B, G.728, G.726, iLBC, T.38 and the nice thing about them is they are compact embedded analog telephony adaptors where it is the only piece of hardware you need besides a POTS phone and an internet connection in the field. You can make them call eachother directly ATA to ATA on whatever dial plan you want, you can change the ringing style and about a thousand other parameters. They meet or exceed an Asterisk system in the field for lots of reasons. The only time I have seen one break is because a PhD Geologist pressed & held the reset button in while rebooting it (which takes real skill) and it bricked the device as it was looking for a new firmware update. Other than that the only thing that screws them up is SIP VoIP traffic traversing NAT's.
you can use both antennas simultaneously and gain twice bandwidth boost 😊
Yes, that is totally doable. We'd then have 64 kbps!
So hypothetically, if I had a field and a lot of dishes found, I could get a few Mbit? 😂
@@dfgdfg_ for sure
Id imagine you would very quickly hit the max throughput of the satellite
@@highlandrab19 I don't think so. But my guess is that the full throughput of the satelite is in the range of 100mb/s or may be even higher.
Great video fellow Ontarian! G711u (full range, low compression) uses around 75-85kib/s, G729 (highly compressed) is 30kib/s. Sounds like your latency was about 1.25sec per dish. But the 711u bandwidth might have been what was killing the smooth clarity from the receiver. Curious if you could have a clean phone call with both on 729 :)
Do the neighbors have a pot going guessing the day you are carted away by people in black SUVs?
Idiot
I was thinking the same when I noticed the IP address he got is in an ASN owned by US Electrodynamics Inc who are a satellite gateway company that boast they carry "Mission critical DOD services" according to their website.
@@neodonkeyI have nerdy hobbies and interests and one time a marine recruiter was at my house talking to me... My mom's boyfriend at the time pulled into the driveway sat for about 2 seconds and then immediately backed out... He came back about an hour later and said,
"Man I just seen US government plates on that car and I didn't know what the heck was going on" 😂
Did you talk to Neo? Is everything still OK in the Matrix?
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
There is no spoon because it'll take too long for it to download
Amazing stuff. The Nortel phone you used near the end is the same my grandparents had hanging on their wall for 30+ years haha
I was here before he was famous! ;)
Imagine answering the phone...
"Good afternoon sir, we're calling about your vehicles extended warranty..."
When it started ringing the 2nd time I was thinking that very thing.
SIR DO NOT REDEEM THE ANTENNA
This is honestly interesting, inspired me to do some research and learn about satellites.
Modem, L-Band TX to BUC (block up converter) that looks to be combined with your SSPA (solid state power amplifier). RX side LNB through L-band to the modem. Or LNA to down converter then modem.
It's fun doing this sort of stuff.
You must have been involved in VSAT to know this much.
@@peterfairlie2296 have worked on all sorts of satellite communications systems.
@@peterfairlie2296 It isn't the size of someone's appature that matters, it's how you use it.
OK that is a lie. The smaller the apprature, the wider the 3dB down beam width. I would rather have a larger antenna. I have operated from 1m up to about 3.4m parabolic reflectors and associated equipment.
Good content.
Amazed at all the know how and equipment. Subscribed.
After watching this beautiful video I was seeking for the hardware list before I recognized my Portemonnaie is actually probably a bit tight for this new Hobby 🎉😂 awesome video, beautiful vibes, thank you!
Imagine hearing your neighbor boot up the satellite stealing set up in the back yard when they get home from work
That phone brings back so many memories 😁
exit the matrix
How much would you charge to set up a unit like that at our office grid ranch? Or can I buy a package from you with all the equipment to “plug and play”? We have a 200 ft tall antenna to mount the dish to. The free internet part isn’t why I’m interested, we’re in a remote area we’re 100% off grid and a phone line with internet is huge for safety.
Where are you located?
@@peterfairlie2296 I’m in Northern California east of Modesto 60 miles from Yosemite national park
@@NevadaFarmsStarlink?
@@evilleader1991 that might be the best..
32k? If it was dialup, there would be MNP or V42bis compression (wouldn't help with the pictures though)
What I love about this War Games/Rise of the Machines set up is that you can even clean your data using the fountain in the middle of the garden.
0:22 does anyone remember the Only fools and horses episode where Del Boy gets hold of a dodgy satellite dish.😂
Keep up with this content man, I love it
That's wild... the voice delay is less than it was between Europe and the States in the late 90s.
Years ago I remember finding out there was a star code you could enter before the number you dialed that asked the network to use undersea cable instead of satellite when making a transatlantic call. I believe the use case was for modems which struggled with the satellite latency.
Love to see thing like this, great educational content man!
This dudes basically time traveling through space in his own backyard. ❤
Amazing ❤️ you are a legend and easily make it on the ARC 😊
This is freaking awesome!!! You have a new subscriber!!!
Thanks for subbing
You remind me of a guy i used to work with. He and his company in the 80's had built out their own mini cell phone network on midway island.
This was my job in the Air Force. Combat Communications, we set up equipment like this in austere environments so we could communicate. Both ground radio and SATCOM. When we upgraded to 50Mbit modems I thought it was infinite bandwidth lolol.
I've actually uplinked, transmitted, at 20 Mbps using this gear. The BUC was pushing 50 Watts into the antenna to accomplish that rate. I have the capability of 25 Mbps up and down around 100 Mbps.
that first attempt at the phone call was glorious
I love this channel already dude.
Wish I got the money for that. Im a CS major but i honest to god wish I knew how to do RF stuff.
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Is it possible to build a satellite setup, (To test the internet connection) without it being crazy expensive? (Cost of the dish and what not). I can't seem to find much on how to build something like that or find the right parts.
puts this equipment on a ups system end you have an emergency comunication system in the case of natural disasters
I have a 3000 Watt data center APC UP's connected to a 48 volt 40 Amp hour battery bank. And that's just to keep the power going before the generator kicks in.
This thing costs more in energy than a 1 gbit fiberglass connection. Still awesome that you got it working
It was in total pulling only 8 amps @ 120 volts which is 1000 watts
@@peterfairlie2296 I added it up and it'd be roughly $84 a month in energy if you leave it running for 16 hours a day
@@peterfairlie2296so like 2 dollars a day in electricity
where can you pick up a military grade sat system by chance? used of course.
what's the model of military sat system (auto searching) antena unit?
50Watts?! That’s nothing. I have a microwave that’s 800W and it’ll even make my dinner for me 😂
I enjoyed the video thanks. I love this sort of stuff. Well done sir.
You all missed the most impressive tech in this whole video: he had the black box and phone on top of it floating in mid air 😳
That's my antigravity generator I salvaged from a UAP
Is that enough bitrate for a fax machine? That would be a cool setup if you were in a very remote location.
Enough bandwidth for sure but the latency will paly havoc with acknowledgment timing.
Fax requires a smooth and jitter free connection. It's a nightmare trying to get it to run over VoIP at the best of times, it would never work over this.
I suppose it would be enough to send WhatsApp, iMessage, etc., because these things tend to still work on GPRS. Don't know about the ping though.
My internet bill is definitely enough to buy the set up many times over… especially since i've paid it monthly for over decades now.
The price is climbing too, with the excuse "the rest of ur neighborhood is already upgraded so urs would be having trouble at times."
I just want you to know, you will never get to fully understand the amount of lives you are saving by posting this information, these videos you've been posting. I know it might sound far-fetched and silly, given some of the things. Your videos are a godsend to a certain few of us. Godspeed, Fairlie
Saving lives is good, because victims never really do get to respawn like in videogames no matter what any 10% weekly wallet's content's cash grabbing organized crime group says so they can keep smilingly ripping people off for that motivational 10%.
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Cat pictures save lives.
Glad to help
Very interesting. Quite a collection of stuff you have to make it work.
I’m in rural Australia and my internet connection is a Geostationary Satellite as well.
Interestingly the round trip time is also 600ms but the throughput is 25Mbps down and 5Mbps up.
They have faster tears but it only works when congestion is low. Cost around $65 AU per month and includes a phone!
It’s useable but I don’t bother as the delay is a bit of a pain.
Hello, how does the VoIP telephone work? Who assigns it the tel number? Im assuming its a local thing with a server that you own. 😃
You don't own or operate a server.
In respect of the PSTN replacement, you plug your fixed line analogue telephone in to a port on the back of your broadband router. The router is the only equipment you need, and an optional UPS to provide power in the case of a power failure.
The router is connected to your internet provider who also provides (provided) the PSTN service.
So the Telco company that provided you with your fixed line analogue phone service will provide your VoIP service.
That Telco that assigned your phone number to the fixed line phone connection will assign the phone number to the fixed line phone on your VoIP connection.
IP addresses come into it, SIP and database services.
Quite what happens when your Telco providing your PSTN fixed line service is a VNO running over Openreach, I am not sure, but I would anticipate that the VNO still ensures you get the same phone number assigned to that fixed line phone when it is connected in to the VoIP network - as that is fundamentally important. The transitipn to VoIP from the PSTN needs to be as seamless for the customer as possible.
Therefore I envisage a technical solution where the VNO provides data to Openreach and Openreach register your IP address and the phone number provided by the VNO into their _database services_ application. All phones on the network have to be registered.
It is likely that number ranges have been allocated to each VNO, and for the addition of new communication services the VNO can pick a number from their allotted range. Other approaches are possible but I suspect this is the most likely.
First call was soooo cool! It didn’t work! I hope that wasn’t a friend you called, you gave out their number and if it was a random person I’d be annoyed at getting a random gibberish call! Nice setup though and quite educational. I’m assuming you can gain access to a higher bandwidth satellite connection if you tried? Anyways was a fairly good video on satellite access for computers.
It might be slow but a terminal Linux is all you need anyway to make some damage within somebody's network with that speed still.
This learning can come handy in dire situations like a war or other natural calamity.
So, would any of this stuff work without the login/account you mentioned? There’s still a requirement for an internet connection? Or am I mistaken?
Yeah, it's hardly "hacking" when you're just using it normally.
This guy is the reason why I'm having slow internet speeds during the day 😑
Thank you, Rube Goldberg would be proud of it.
the way you calibrate that system looks like a among us task
Peter, great stuff! Are you an IT Dude or Ham radio geek? (I am both :-D) I love microwaves and was one of the few who modified magnetron from certain oven and used it on 13cm as phased lock for EME.... (about 500W CW into 3meters dish....nice)
How did you modulate the microwave oven magnetron? Would the frequency not be fixed at 2.45 GHz? I have heard of this being done for HAM ATV.
What is the worst thing that can happen to you as far as rf radiation from this setup, 50w @14GHz? It's not ionizing right? So at the absolute worst you'd get kinda hot or would it be worse?maybe like a sunburn maybe or is it more like it will literally microwave your insides?
That birdbath must get nice and warm. You basically have a hot tub birdbath setup. Add a jet to it, and they'll never leave.
I was just about to comment about the bird jacuzzi, too. Or is it microwave chicken noodle soup 🤣😂
Who doesn't like a hot bath ?
Pretty cool setup although not real practical unless you need a mobile rig. Did a lot of C and KU band satellite installs and service work from the 1980 to late 90s, got out of C band and residential work when the mini dishes took over. I did do a few commercial internet dish installs in the late 90s, they were pretty iffy back then, the equipment was really lacking.
This brings me joy. Blessings.