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Andrei Kiralenko could have made this list. I remember seeing Tim Duncan on a podcast being asked about playing World of Warcraft. Duncan said that he was really into that game but Kiralenko was an addict. The night before a playoff game Duncan was up at 2 am playing because he was injured and didn't need to get sleep for the game, but he ran into Kiralenko in game. Also, I'm standing up for Hassan Whiteside. He is one of those players whose perception holds him back. Whiteside's last year as a starter in Portland he was averaging 13 rebounds and led the league in blocks at 3 per game. The Blzaers let him walk (being literally their only defensive player) and nobody wanted to sign him. The Kings paid him a minimum, and were the worst defensive team in the NBA. Despite having Whiteside on the roster, Luke Walton wouldn't play Whiteside at all. The net effect of that is, Walton got fired because people finally figured out that he's a terrible coach and Whiteside gets thought of as "washed" because a bad coach buried him on a team with a bad roster. I understand that Whiteside doesn't have the heart of a champion. But I also can't sign off on him being a disappointment. There is so much going on in this league that is more about player perception trumping player ability. It's one of my least favorite aspects of the NBA. Seeing coach's or organizations not utilize their players talents while that player shoulders all of the burden that comes along with it.
Charles Barkley once said there are three types of NBA players: Guy who love the game, Guys who love the game and the paycheck, and Guys who just love the paycheck. It's like any job.
In a physical sport as competitive as basketball, it’s really hard to imagine that there’s players that don’t enjoy the game but are good enough to make it to the highest level. I would think that it would require at least some level of enjoyment to become that good at the game, but WDIK.
@@into_play3226I mean Derozan and PG straight up said 70% of the guys in the league don't even love the game so that tells you what their main motivation is.
@@into_play3226it's not hard. For tens and hundreds of millions, many would clean toilets. He's just viewing it as a grind and just reaches the level that's enough to get paid that money. It's like I'm really good at organizing. Not gonna do it. But if someone gave me that much money, I'll do it, but just enough to get it.
@@Disneymagic24 I was thinking that but it’s like there’s a time and place for that kinda joke. You could say that within the locker room or in the team group chat but I won’t hold it majorly against him
I remember when whiteside went from a 54 overall to 80’s it may sound like a joke from that interview but it’s good on the development side since he kept improving at that time
Putting Kat in the same conversation as these guys is crazy. Cause he’s shown improvement and been a consistent All Star level player. He’s just not a number 1 option.
There are definitely reasons to dislike how Kat plays basketball. But "Hates the game of basketball" is an insane comment, if he hated it he'd be a backup center on league minimum rn.
Sustain 15+10 in 5 year stretch it's also the job not many could do in the league. At least he keeps himself in a good shape. I can't say that he loves the game of basketball lesser than Giannis' brother.
There's also a difference between actually loving the game and just deciding to play it because you had a physical advantage growing up so why not become a millionaire?
Ayton told us off rip he here for a bag n no one listened Also when someone has the David Robinson build and wasn’t a dominant shot blocker in college that was a CRAZY red flag
It's been 6 years since Ayton was drafted. For me he's tough to evaluate. Sure he's a walking double double but after 6 years all he has to show for it is the All Rookie First Team. No All Stars, no All NBAs, no All Defense, never led the league in any box score statistics. He's also turning 26 this year so I guess he is as close to his ceiling as he can get. Four players drafted after him are already much more decorated than he is.
I don't think it's fair to lump KAT into this category. He definitely isn't the alpha you would want him to be with his talent and a little too laid back for his own good, but you don't become the 2nd option on a Western conference contender with 51/43/88 splits if you hate basketball.
Just because you're good at something, doesn't mean you necessarily enjoy doing it... at the end of the day, it's still a job and most people don't enjoy going to work.
Im sure its miserable. Being rich. The men that build their arenas and etc don't even come close to that. But im sure it sucks being rich. Its like what do i do now? I wouldn't want it.
Nah there are 500 or so players in the NBA and 7 billion people on this planet. These people love basketball maybe OUR expectations for them were too high.
Lumping Deron Williams in there with the rest of these guys is a tad unfair. He played in the NBA for about a decade before falling off. That's the expected life cycle of an NBA player.
KAT isn’t a #1 option. It’s just not who he is and it actually doesn’t suit his game either. His mindset can be off and on but he definitely shouldn’t be on here.
Imagine getting benched in fourth after scoring 60 points 😂 kAT is the perfect representation of today’s pathetic and weak minded „men“ and is the softest person ever to lace ahoes and walk out on a basketball court.
Looking at you Ben Simmons. For Ayton he never had that drive to improve. The weaknesses in his game consistently showed up in the 5 years he played for the Suns. He had no drive and was one of the softest centers in the league. It was frustrating watching him play. Glad the Suns traded him.
Giannis started as a guy just doing it for the money and for his family. And then it turned into wanting to be great and caring for his team and city he plays for. He’s the opposite of this in my opinion.
He hasn’t really improved his game much, just bulldoze to the basket, there’s a reason he only gets shaq comparisons,his one dimensional playstyle and total lack of a jumpshot will kill his longevity
Jokic is different in that he constantly improved, to the point of becoming the best player in the league and becoming an NBA champion and two time MVP, meaning he wasn't content with only getting paid and living the lifestyle (which Jokic is not about at all). The likes of Simmons and Ayton have showed zero improvement and the likes of Simmons, Whiteside, and Deron regressed FAST.
Yes, but Jokic is highly competitive on the court and off. Also very locked in to help his teammates win. He worked to develop those skills and he also had terrible fitness when he entered the league. He changed his diet and started working out seriously. People think he's out of shape because he can't jump but if you watch him in 4th quarters, he is never tired no matter how much running or how physical the game is. That's a high fitness level -- especially for a guy that is 280 and runs everything for Denver.😉
It's like Robert Salem said: There are different types of competitors. There are those, who will only do just enough to get by. They will stop going the extra mile once that max contract has been signed. All of these players are that type.
Like Andy said, for guys who are really tall, there's definitely and expectation that you're going to play basketball and people think you're weird if you don't. Their physical gifts likely pushed them to the sport where some excel by accident. And for others, it's just like any other passion that you turn into a job -- once it becomes work, it's not a passion anymore.
The main point of this video for those who don’t know is that each of the players featured just don’t have the drive and work ethic to better their skills each day, each year. These types of players have never been and will never be meaningful contributors to championship teams In other words, they have no *KILLER INSTINCT* and are _soft as Charmin_ as the late Kobe Bryant would have said.
Jokic should not be on this list. It's hard for people to understand his mentality but it cannot be measured on a straight line with "loves basketball" on one end and "hates basketball" at the other.
that doesn’t mean he HATES the game. You’re clearly not a nuggets fan so that perspective is very hollow. If you actually watch him you should know he cares about the game, the team, and the fans.
Jokic loves the game of basketball, that's why he worked so hard to get to level where he's at, he hates everything that comes with being famous, he hates the media and their lack of knowledge and stupidity regarding the NBA He looks at basketball the way it should be looked at, a sport, his profession, it doesn't consume his life, but he knows how to work hard and to be the best you can be
The thing these guys lack work ethic, but also “future sight”. Curtis Martin hated football and really didn’t want to play in the NFL. On draft night, he tried to leave, until his uncle told him “if you work hard and frfr work at this, you’ll be able to help people and your family the way you’ve always wanted.” He became a HOFer…why? He understood that busting his ass would give him everything he REALLY wanted. These dudes are short changing themselves trying to get rich quick, and not thinking “what could I do to make sure I KEEP making this money if not, more.”
I love curtis martin, i have his jersey and his story is inspiring. On the other hand it's different in the modern NBA. Football players generally earn less and especially in the early 2000's. Curtis Martin earned a little less than 50 million over his whole career, while Whiteside who played for like 4 seasons moderately well earned double that. Modern NBA players like Ayton don't need to work hard to be insanely rich. I know adjusted for inflation curtis's money is worth more, but in his day there weren't players that could just get by on talent alone. Now you can.
In a physical sport as competitive as basketball, it’s really hard to imagine that there’s players that don’t enjoy the game but are good enough to make it to the highest level. I would think that it would require at least some level of enjoyment to become that good at the game, but WDIK.
Fans are dumb. There's more to life than just work. Not everyone is after fame and adoration of fans. There's more to life than just basketball, so it's not surprising that not everyone wants to sacrifice their priorities for the game. After they get the bag, they enjoy life.
Williams is not a good example. You said it yourself, his game regressed after injuries (and also when he left Utah). It wasn't a case where he hated the sport early in his career.
a lot of these players are so focused on getting themselves and their family out of poverty that when they finally get to the NBA they take it easy and stop pushing themselves, which I completely understand. some players just want to get that check and take care of their loved ones. i respect it, and I also respect players who aren't satisfied and want to push for a lengthy career and be the best at what they do.
Yea, another problem that people forget about is that it's a game, a kids game really. It does nothing to really show any type of contribution to the real world. Basketball makes people a lot of money, but it's non-essential in terms of it's not needed for society to function. I think that's another reason, it's kinda hard for some players to live and breathe with the motivation to put a ball in a basket. It's really kind of a silly gig seeing yourself as a grown man playing a child's recreational game. So just give me my money, I don't care about legacy, nothing is forever anyway.
Andrew Wiggins. He's out indefinitely for second year in a row for "personal" reasons. Though you only see a few ever do it, in 2024, you can respect a player needing to do that and give him benefit of the doubt. But when it starts to become a pattern, the BS has to be called out. At the end of the day, it's his job and he's getting paid millions to do it. At some point in time, you just gotta suck it up and do what you are paid to do and use the offseason to mop and whine if you must.
I hear ya, BUT Wiggins is certainly an odd case. It seems like there is ALWAYS a bunch of bullshit going on in his personal life. Then factor in who his dad was and what he got banned from the NBA for, yeah I don’t doubt Wiggins atp in his career has some issues.
I did get shocked on a few of them hating the sport but I think maybe,they could not handle the pressure which would come to them if they would be urged to perform well,good friends.
To be fair, almost everyone are working because of money. Not for passion lol. I don't blame athletes who have reached the highest level to maximize their earnings because it's a very short career.
Yeah, let’s be real, no one would play 4 games a week potentially destroying their body for free. You need to make a living, get medical insurance, allocate your time. That being said, you can make the money and have fun playing and competing. Who wouldn’t want to be paid doing something they love? I think Deron Williams did have passion for the game, but he was honest in saying the injuries and failures in the postseason took the fun out of it for him. It’s almost as if being paid for his hobby ruined his hobby. It just makes you appreciate guys like Derrick Rose and Shaun Livingston more.
I think KAT being in this list is completely unfair. He’s literally an Allstar this year and is on like the best team in the west being their #2 and at times #1 option. He’s a solid rim protector too. He’s considered by many to be the 5th best big man in the game rn that could be him, adebeyo, or KP depending who you ask. He wants to be good, he just doesn’t necessarily wanna expand. He wants to play the game his way. KD has always been the same player, never attempted to expand to be a defensive monster or something. Kept doing what he does, so ion see why we treat kat different
these guys (except Deron) WASTED their chance to be GREATS and what ever FUTURE benefits that comes with it. They were contented with their current skills & BIG BAGS.
“Hate the game” is a bit harsh. These guys are mercenaries and clock punchers, same as other professions. Hate the game would be something more disrespectful like Draymond assaulting people regularly or Tim Donaghy betting on games.
KAT is kinda a stretch, T-Wolves sucked at building a team so much they lacked motivation to play, still doesn't mean he hates basketball. Also they are now dominating and looking good, didn't you see him in the 60+ pts game trying to get even more points? Doesn't really look like a guy who hates basketball..
I don’t think it’s fair to put Towns on the list. Ya there’s some funny moments but the guy is clearly locked in this year. You can’t play like he’s been without caring.
as long as they play on the same they got paid for during the contract it`s all good, but players like ben Simons should get sued for what is basically a scam
Jokic preforms up to his contract unlike Ayton whom I am so dumbfounded of how the Blazers thought that accepting that Bucks offer was better then the heat.
Ummmm. Jokić is a top three player in the league and has been for some time now and has won championships as the star player on the team. I believe he’s already a Hall of Famer. In terms of advanced metrics- his most similar players list includes Shaquille O’Neal (the most similar) Walt Bellamy, Bill Russell, Hakeem, and Willis Reed. He has improved massively in his career. He is currently in the top 2 in the NBA in the following metrics: VORP, BPM (#1), and PER and win shares/48 (#2). In what universe is Jokić even remotely similar to the guys in the video??🤣🤣🤣
@@kineahora8736 it’s because he jokingly said that he doesn’t want to be remembered as a basketball player but Jokic wasn’t even placed on the list in fact he preforms up to his contract level and is worth every penny that he is paid
When I saw Ben Simmons trying to amass a candy collection four years ago in his mansion, that was a final confirmation of him not taking the game seriously to me. ua-cam.com/video/vYKNuwFVhq8/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Ayton was not at fault here despite of his infamous quote-part "playing for my next contract" when he arrived in portland and played like garbage early in the season he said that the lack of getting a bed for him to rest and he had to sleep in a air matress caused him to perform horribly in his first few months in portland.
There are multiples nba players who have gone onto podcast and have had interviews were they have discussed how varied amounts of players don’t give a shit about winning or the game in general. They utilize the talent and potential into manipulating teams to give them solid if not amazing contracts and then begin to regress purposely or utilize injury and stretch it out as long as possible.
I don't think towns hates basketball. I think (IN HIS HEAD) he looks at basketball as 9-5. So when it time to go home he wants to do what he wants to do...
@@jakasmalakas To me and you he living the dream he getting paid to play basketball and yes that is dream come true. But I promise you if you had your dream job eventually its not gonna seem so special especially if you been doing for free sense childhood.Him wanting to play games after work(again it's his job) should not translate to him hating basketball. You can say he not that invested or doesn't have the mentality to want to be better that's all certainly true. So can we say Micah Parsons hates football because instead of studying tape and working out he doing podcast? Now Ben simmons he hates basketball.
Just because you are good at something doesnt mean you have to love it. Im a software engineer, ive never liked it, i dont care for it, but turns out im somewhat decent at it and it pays well enough for me to have a comfortable life. I dont see anything wrong with that. This impossible standard guys like Jordan or Kobe set up, that you have to be a hyper competitive, hyper focused, hyper ambitious, ultimate winner or there is something wrong with you is unfair and unhealthy.
I think it's the money that went up to the roof from $5M to like $50M a salary. They just want to get their bag. I think if the salaries were like in the $2-$5 Million range still, they would be competitive.
Perfectly valid. If you can scam millions of dollars out of a bunch of evil sports team owners, you're doing a good thing. It's a children's game. If you're 7 feet tall and can make some money for playing, you should.
I think one guy that should be on the list is DeMarcus Cousins. He had injuries but they were mostly due to him being overweight. But, what was even worse, was how bad he behaved himself around coaches and teammates. He was such a bully and a public complainer, that Kings shipped him away for almost no return during his contract year. And that really messed up his plans to lock in that huge contract. Then, he got overweight, injured and never got that mega deal.
That doesn’t mean he hates playing basketball. If anything, his on-court outbursts only show his passion for the game and competitiveness, he was just immature or didn’t know how to control himself. He tried returning to the NBA after injury multiple times. And he’s still playing in Puerto Rico, do you really think if he didn’t enjoy basketball he’d be playing in Puerto Rico right now?
@@conorwatchvidz his outbursts show he lacks self-control and is selfish, putting his interests above the team's. He also never kept his weight in check that led to all his injuries. I think he is playing in PR simply because he needs money. He spent lavishly on his rookie deal and then got peanuts.
But that doesn't mean he hates playing in the NBA...that sounds like your opinion and less than facts that if he hated basketball so much he wouldn't have rehabbed to come back. Unfortunately, teams have moved away from his style of play and his injuries have made it hard for him to come back. Him spending his money or splurging doesn't say "I hate playing."
@@Rustyblackleford this entire video is an opinion, right? none of these players actually said "I hate basketball". So, none of this are facts, just our speculations. And if you "rehab" and gain like 30 pounds like he did, that isn't doing it right. He needs to earn money, so he plays and rehabs but he is doing it half-assed because he was never held accountable for his actions and never raised right with good values.
I called it… after Whiteside got that contract from us in 2016…. He did not care…. We got frustrated with him during the 2017 season… this guy should’ve been a hall of famer NO DOUBT. He was so good and didn’t try
goes to show that we shouldn’t take guys like Russ, Pat Bev, Giannis, Butler, Bron for granted, they always consistently bring it and truly love the game
As a Heat fan, there was a lot of great stuff we saw in Whiteside. It was positive shift post the Lebron era. But as the years went on, we noticed he was very immature and only caring about getting his "2k rating up."
I think I'd still pick Hassan Whiteside over Ayton. Whiteside played fantastic defense and at least was consistent. Ayton hasn't played defense a day in his life and has no consistency.
I mean, I'm not sure if anybody remembers him, but Larry Sanders might have been on his way to an all-star appearance at some point in his career and then literally said "I'm out."
Ben Simmons is a prime example why Ayton is just fine being stable and not improving. Imaging Ben Simmons still play like his rookie or sophomore year, he'd be doing just fine. Probably not winning a ring any time soon but he can easily make the starter spot in most teams and not worrying about the next contract.
Great Video. I was just thinking this about big men not having the same passion and drive as the guards just because they are tall and have less comp. Not sure about D Williams but KAT for sure belongs on this list. I don't care if he scored 62 one time. Jimmy was right. Wiggins should be on here as well.
Jokic should be an honorable mention. Dude is one of the best at basketball but he sounds like he'd rather be doing a lot of other things if they paid like the NBA did.
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They don't want to deliver the food to Poland. This is Ridicilous.
Larry Sanders
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Andrei Kiralenko could have made this list. I remember seeing Tim Duncan on a podcast being asked about playing World of Warcraft. Duncan said that he was really into that game but Kiralenko was an addict. The night before a playoff game Duncan was up at 2 am playing because he was injured and didn't need to get sleep for the game, but he ran into Kiralenko in game.
Also, I'm standing up for Hassan Whiteside. He is one of those players whose perception holds him back. Whiteside's last year as a starter in Portland he was averaging 13 rebounds and led the league in blocks at 3 per game. The Blzaers let him walk (being literally their only defensive player) and nobody wanted to sign him. The Kings paid him a minimum, and were the worst defensive team in the NBA. Despite having Whiteside on the roster, Luke Walton wouldn't play Whiteside at all. The net effect of that is, Walton got fired because people finally figured out that he's a terrible coach and Whiteside gets thought of as "washed" because a bad coach buried him on a team with a bad roster. I understand that Whiteside doesn't have the heart of a champion. But I also can't sign off on him being a disappointment. There is so much going on in this league that is more about player perception trumping player ability. It's one of my least favorite aspects of the NBA. Seeing coach's or organizations not utilize their players talents while that player shoulders all of the burden that comes along with it.
you bold for this, to put KAT among this lmao
Charles Barkley once said there are three types of NBA players: Guy who love the game, Guys who love the game and the paycheck, and Guys who just love the paycheck. It's like any job.
In a physical sport as competitive as basketball, it’s really hard to imagine that there’s players that don’t enjoy the game but are good enough to make it to the highest level. I would think that it would require at least some level of enjoyment to become that good at the game, but WDIK.
@@into_play3226 I'm sure you're right. It's not like Charles Barkley knows what he's talking about when it comes to the NBA. 🤣
@@into_play3226I mean Derozan and PG straight up said 70% of the guys in the league don't even love the game so that tells you what their main motivation is.
@@RudieObiashe knows more than you
@@into_play3226it's not hard. For tens and hundreds of millions, many would clean toilets. He's just viewing it as a grind and just reaches the level that's enough to get paid that money. It's like I'm really good at organizing. Not gonna do it. But if someone gave me that much money, I'll do it, but just enough to get it.
I’ll always remember after a game Whiteside was asked what motivated him or something and his response was “I’m just trynna get my 2k rating up.”
I think he was clearly joking when he said that
Classic
Anyone who's been following the Wolves for years without their head stuck in the sand knows Kat doesn't watch game film.
@@Disneymagic24 I was thinking that but it’s like there’s a time and place for that kinda joke. You could say that within the locker room or in the team group chat but I won’t hold it majorly against him
I remember when whiteside went from a 54 overall to 80’s it may sound like a joke from that interview but it’s good on the development side since he kept improving at that time
*Hassan Whiteside just wanted to get his 2K rating up LMAO*
No he didn’t
@@eddiew2325that and money
@@eddiew2325yes he did
@@eddiew2325 Yes he did
I remember he said that after the game in an interview. Was so funny
Ben Simmons could have been poor man's LeBron but decided to be poor man's Draymond
The difference is averaging a triple double and triple single
I wouldn't disrespect Draymond by putting Ben in the same category as him
Draymond won titles
Lol so true.
bruh I spit my drink out reading this.
Putting Kat in the same conversation as these guys is crazy. Cause he’s shown improvement and been a consistent All Star level player. He’s just not a number 1 option.
There are definitely reasons to dislike how Kat plays basketball. But "Hates the game of basketball" is an insane comment, if he hated it he'd be a backup center on league minimum rn.
Yeah, I think he just hasn't got the mindset to be a leader, as well as Andrew Wiggins so it is not surprising they weren't successful
The reason why people question his love for the game is because he has terrible body language and looks miserable when out on the court.
Someone who put 62 up in one game shouldn't be in this type of Convo. Kat loves the game.
KAT doesn't hate it as much as other guys on the list, he just doesn't have that work ethic.
Ayton is like the guy you draft in 2k but then later find out he has a D potential
But he's actually good tho,it's not like he averages 3 points or something,he definitely was drafted higher than he should have but he's good
@@sageofcausality173I mean at the time, he was the consensus number 1 pick by a mile
Sustain 15+10 in 5 year stretch it's also the job not many could do in the league. At least he keeps himself in a good shape. I can't say that he loves the game of basketball lesser than Giannis' brother.
@@sageofcausality173yeah 82 overall but D potential
More like low intangibles
There’s a difference between hating basketball and losing passion for the NBA.
what’s the difference
@@jm18803pretty self explanatory smart one 😭
@@jm18803hating it is not enjoying it in the first place
What's your point?
There's also a difference between actually loving the game and just deciding to play it because you had a physical advantage growing up so why not become a millionaire?
Ayton told us off rip he here for a bag n no one listened
Also when someone has the David Robinson build and wasn’t a dominant shot blocker in college that was a CRAZY red flag
He wanted to leave and the suns kept him anyways
@@spidamitchell8311ayton hasn't been better in Portland tho
It's been 6 years since Ayton was drafted. For me he's tough to evaluate. Sure he's a walking double double but after 6 years all he has to show for it is the All Rookie First Team. No All Stars, no All NBAs, no All Defense, never led the league in any box score statistics. He's also turning 26 this year so I guess he is as close to his ceiling as he can get. Four players drafted after him are already much more decorated than he is.
A 5 who never averaged 1+ block, always in the 0, ...
Ayton isn't tough to evaluate 6 years is an enough sample size. He only plays for the check and lifestyle while his draft pears surpassed him.
Easy to evaluate he's 7feet of stacked crap no motor in him
I don't think it's fair to lump KAT into this category. He definitely isn't the alpha you would want him to be with his talent and a little too laid back for his own good, but you don't become the 2nd option on a Western conference contender with 51/43/88 splits if you hate basketball.
exactly, the hate on him is so forced. he could literally win fmvp and he’d still be getting commented on like this
I agree. This Andy guy hating KAT since forever. It's like no matter what we say, he'll never change his perception on him. Haters gonna hate!
Not to mention a 4x All-Star, including this year…the KAT slander is hilarious
Just because you're good at something, doesn't mean you necessarily enjoy doing it... at the end of the day, it's still a job and most people don't enjoy going to work.
I think if I got to play a game for millions of dollars, I would probably enjoy going to work. 😂
@@danteeudora6330I mean u say that til you there. GOT to remember most these dudes had their asses kissed their whole lives
Im sure its miserable. Being rich. The men that build their arenas and etc don't even come close to that. But im sure it sucks being rich. Its like what do i do now? I wouldn't want it.
Nah there are 500 or so players in the NBA and 7 billion people on this planet. These people love basketball maybe OUR expectations for them were too high.
Money can't buy you love.
A frequent quote to have and it's true .
Lumping Deron Williams in there with the rest of these guys is a tad unfair. He played in the NBA for about a decade before falling off. That's the expected life cycle of an NBA player.
KAT isn’t a #1 option. It’s just not who he is and it actually doesn’t suit his game either. His mindset can be off and on but he definitely shouldn’t be on here.
The hate is crazy
Imagine getting benched in fourth after scoring 60 points 😂 kAT is the perfect representation of today’s pathetic and weak minded „men“ and is the softest person ever to lace ahoes and walk out on a basketball court.
Looking at you Ben Simmons. For Ayton he never had that drive to improve. The weaknesses in his game consistently showed up in the 5 years he played for the Suns. He had no drive and was one of the softest centers in the league. It was frustrating watching him play. Glad the Suns traded him.
Deron Williams shouldn't be on this list. His frustration after the injuries are understandable 😢
He always had issues before injuries. Like character issues.
@silversoulken no he didn't, that was some nonsense started by George Karl's lying self. None of Karl's former players respect him.
Giannis started as a guy just doing it for the money and for his family. And then it turned into wanting to be great and caring for his team and city he plays for. He’s the opposite of this in my opinion.
He Lives the City he threatened to Leave. Psst
@@chrisschaeffer9661 Did he leave? No.
He hasn’t really improved his game much, just bulldoze to the basket, there’s a reason he only gets shaq comparisons,his one dimensional playstyle and total lack of a jumpshot will kill his longevity
His career ain’t over yet buddy. Y’all act like people can’t learn new things when they turn 30? Foh
@@chrisschaeffer9661 So did Kobe and a bunch of other great players.
Surprised to not see Andrew Bynum and Larry Sanders
To come back better from the injuries that plagued Andrew Bynum he had to have love for the game.
Darko Milicic should also be mentioned. Dude has been vocal about how much he hates basketball
Larry sanders more so lost his passion for hoops and went into a depression I don’t think he fits the bill in this category
@michaelorme7501 DC was the biggest waste of a talent. He was more talented than Rasheed Wallace at his best, in my opinion.
Jjokic is a great case for not letting basketball consume your life. Yes, it's a profession- do your job, but go see your horses, man.
Jokic is different in that he constantly improved, to the point of becoming the best player in the league and becoming an NBA champion and two time MVP, meaning he wasn't content with only getting paid and living the lifestyle (which Jokic is not about at all). The likes of Simmons and Ayton have showed zero improvement and the likes of Simmons, Whiteside, and Deron regressed FAST.
Yes, but Jokic is highly competitive on the court and off. Also very locked in to help his teammates win.
He worked to develop those skills and he also had terrible fitness when he entered the league. He changed his diet and started working out seriously.
People think he's out of shape because he can't jump but if you watch him in 4th quarters, he is never tired no matter how much running or how physical the game is. That's a high fitness level -- especially for a guy that is 280 and runs everything for Denver.😉
Jokic also wasn’t drafted round 1
I agree with you and he deserves to be here more that Kat since he actually likes to say that nba is not his # 1 priority
It's like Robert Salem said: There are different types of competitors.
There are those, who will only do just enough to get by. They will stop going the extra mile once that max contract has been signed. All of these players are that type.
Like Andy said, for guys who are really tall, there's definitely and expectation that you're going to play basketball and people think you're weird if you don't. Their physical gifts likely pushed them to the sport where some excel by accident. And for others, it's just like any other passion that you turn into a job -- once it becomes work, it's not a passion anymore.
Its best to follow a career that you love instead of doing something you hate, especially for money
The main point of this video for those who don’t know is that each of the players featured just don’t have the drive and work ethic to better their skills each day, each year.
These types of players have never been and will never be meaningful contributors to championship teams
In other words, they have no *KILLER INSTINCT* and are _soft as Charmin_ as the late Kobe Bryant would have said.
True true!!!!
If this was made by Espn number 1 would be Nikola Jokic
The worst part is that I can't disagree with you there...
Why do they hate Joker like that???
Jokic should be on this list. He just plays cause he knows he’s good at it and for the money, doesn’t care for the game and would rather race horses.
Good thing he is 4 times the size of a jockey.
Jokic should not be on this list. It's hard for people to understand his mentality but it cannot be measured on a straight line with "loves basketball" on one end and "hates basketball" at the other.
that doesn’t mean he HATES the game. You’re clearly not a nuggets fan so that perspective is very hollow. If you actually watch him you should know he cares about the game, the team, and the fans.
Jokic loves the game of basketball, that's why he worked so hard to get to level where he's at, he hates everything that comes with being famous, he hates the media and their lack of knowledge and stupidity regarding the NBA
He looks at basketball the way it should be looked at, a sport, his profession, it doesn't consume his life, but he knows how to work hard and to be the best you can be
The thing these guys lack work ethic, but also “future sight”. Curtis Martin hated football and really didn’t want to play in the NFL. On draft night, he tried to leave, until his uncle told him “if you work hard and frfr work at this, you’ll be able to help people and your family the way you’ve always wanted.” He became a HOFer…why? He understood that busting his ass would give him everything he REALLY wanted. These dudes are short changing themselves trying to get rich quick, and not thinking “what could I do to make sure I KEEP making this money if not, more.”
I love curtis martin, i have his jersey and his story is inspiring. On the other hand it's different in the modern NBA. Football players generally earn less and especially in the early 2000's. Curtis Martin earned a little less than 50 million over his whole career, while Whiteside who played for like 4 seasons moderately well earned double that. Modern NBA players like Ayton don't need to work hard to be insanely rich. I know adjusted for inflation curtis's money is worth more, but in his day there weren't players that could just get by on talent alone. Now you can.
This is a good video. Andrew Bynum is another one
Ayton and Simmons scenario only happens because teams will just raw talent instead of personality and "does he actually know and wants to play ball".
In a physical sport as competitive as basketball, it’s really hard to imagine that there’s players that don’t enjoy the game but are good enough to make it to the highest level. I would think that it would require at least some level of enjoyment to become that good at the game, but WDIK.
Fans are dumb. There's more to life than just work. Not everyone is after fame and adoration of fans. There's more to life than just basketball, so it's not surprising that not everyone wants to sacrifice their priorities for the game. After they get the bag, they enjoy life.
Williams is not a good example. You said it yourself, his game regressed after injuries (and also when he left Utah). It wasn't a case where he hated the sport early in his career.
a lot of these players are so focused on getting themselves and their family out of poverty that when they finally get to the NBA they take it easy and stop pushing themselves, which I completely understand. some players just want to get that check and take care of their loved ones. i respect it, and I also respect players who aren't satisfied and want to push for a lengthy career and be the best at what they do.
Yea, another problem that people forget about is that it's a game, a kids game really. It does nothing to really show any type of contribution to the real world. Basketball makes people a lot of money, but it's non-essential in terms of it's not needed for society to function. I think that's another reason, it's kinda hard for some players to live and breathe with the motivation to put a ball in a basket. It's really kind of a silly gig seeing yourself as a grown man playing a child's recreational game. So just give me my money, I don't care about legacy, nothing is forever anyway.
Yo love the vids keep up the good work 🔥
Andrew Wiggins. He's out indefinitely for second year in a row for "personal" reasons. Though you only see a few ever do it, in 2024, you can respect a player needing to do that and give him benefit of the doubt. But when it starts to become a pattern, the BS has to be called out. At the end of the day, it's his job and he's getting paid millions to do it. At some point in time, you just gotta suck it up and do what you are paid to do and use the offseason to mop and whine if you must.
I hear ya, BUT Wiggins is certainly an odd case. It seems like there is ALWAYS a bunch of bullshit going on in his personal life. Then factor in who his dad was and what he got banned from the NBA for, yeah I don’t doubt Wiggins atp in his career has some issues.
@@silversoulkenWhat does his father being suspended 37 years ago have to with anything?
“watch some film first”
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*Honorable mention:* Andrew Wiggins (2022 was a massive fluke)
I did get shocked on a few of them hating the sport but I think maybe,they could not handle the pressure which would come to them if they would be urged to perform well,good friends.
To be fair, almost everyone are working because of money. Not for passion lol. I don't blame athletes who have reached the highest level to maximize their earnings because it's a very short career.
Yeah, let’s be real, no one would play 4 games a week potentially destroying their body for free. You need to make a living, get medical insurance, allocate your time. That being said, you can make the money and have fun playing and competing. Who wouldn’t want to be paid doing something they love? I think Deron Williams did have passion for the game, but he was honest in saying the injuries and failures in the postseason took the fun out of it for him. It’s almost as if being paid for his hobby ruined his hobby. It just makes you appreciate guys like Derrick Rose and Shaun Livingston more.
I think KAT being in this list is completely unfair. He’s literally an Allstar this year and is on like the best team in the west being their #2 and at times #1 option. He’s a solid rim protector too. He’s considered by many to be the 5th best big man in the game rn that could be him, adebeyo, or KP depending who you ask. He wants to be good, he just doesn’t necessarily wanna expand. He wants to play the game his way. KD has always been the same player, never attempted to expand to be a defensive monster or something. Kept doing what he does, so ion see why we treat kat different
I'll never forget that game Haasan had against Chicago that was playing on ESPN, dude could not be stopped.
these guys (except Deron) WASTED their chance to be GREATS and what ever FUTURE benefits that comes with it.
They were contented with their current skills & BIG BAGS.
Deron was always out of shape, always complaining. Not sure why you're giving him a pass
People are way to harsh on Towns. As a secondary star he's just fine.
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LOL for sure had to be #1
“Hate the game” is a bit harsh. These guys are mercenaries and clock punchers, same as other professions.
Hate the game would be something more disrespectful like Draymond assaulting people regularly or Tim Donaghy betting on games.
I’m very sure KAT doesn’t love video games more than basketball,he simply loves video games,leave the man alone
I have to thank the Suns for matching that offer sheet for Ayton.
Harsh reality for these guys. Hate to say that.
Thanks Andy, great video as always!!
KAT is kinda a stretch, T-Wolves sucked at building a team so much they lacked motivation to play, still doesn't mean he hates basketball. Also they are now dominating and looking good, didn't you see him in the 60+ pts game trying to get even more points? Doesn't really look like a guy who hates basketball..
Random person: boy you are tall, you should play basketball
Ayton: ok
We love these longer videos Andy, thank U '
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Basketball has never seemed like Kats first priority, but saying he hates basketball doesn't make any sense.
I don’t think it’s fair to put Towns on the list. Ya there’s some funny moments but the guy is clearly locked in this year. You can’t play like he’s been without caring.
as long as they play on the same they got paid for during the contract it`s all good, but players like ben Simons should get sued for what is basically a scam
Jokic should’ve been on this list, bro’s the best Center in the league and looks like he doesn’t even try lol
Jokic preforms up to his contract unlike Ayton whom I am so dumbfounded of how the Blazers thought that accepting that Bucks offer was better then the heat.
Ummmm. Jokić is a top three player in the league and has been for some time now and has won championships as the star player on the team. I believe he’s already a Hall of Famer.
In terms of advanced metrics- his most similar players list includes Shaquille O’Neal (the most similar) Walt Bellamy, Bill Russell, Hakeem, and Willis Reed. He has improved massively in his career. He is currently in the top 2 in the NBA in the following metrics: VORP, BPM (#1), and PER and win shares/48 (#2).
In what universe is Jokić even remotely similar to the guys in the video??🤣🤣🤣
@@kineahora8736 it’s because he jokingly said that he doesn’t want to be remembered as a basketball player but Jokic wasn’t even placed on the list in fact he preforms up to his contract level and is worth every penny that he is paid
Interesting topic. I thought this about Andrew Binum when I saw him play. I definitely think this is a truth.
When I saw Ben Simmons trying to amass a candy collection four years ago in his mansion, that was a final confirmation of him not taking the game seriously to me.
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Ayton was not at fault here despite of his infamous quote-part "playing for my next contract" when he arrived in portland and played like garbage early in the season he said that the lack of getting a bed for him to rest and he had to sleep in a air matress caused him to perform horribly in his first few months in portland.
There are multiples nba players who have gone onto podcast and have had interviews were they have discussed how varied amounts of players don’t give a shit about winning or the game in general. They utilize the talent and potential into manipulating teams to give them solid if not amazing contracts and then begin to regress purposely or utilize injury and stretch it out as long as possible.
Kuz, he won his chip now he is just ballin
Ben Simmons "individual skill development", he probably meant his COD skills lmao cuz he hasn't improved as a basketball player at all
You could’ve made an entire documentary about this subject.
Ayton is easily one of the biggest disappointing no.1 picks of recent years. He's your problem now Blazers😅 what a "haul".
Okay Deron's career dropped off... I don't think that means he HATES the game of basketball..... lol
“I’m just trying to get my 2K rating up” was a classic on NBA Twitter back then
I don't think towns hates basketball. I think (IN HIS HEAD) he looks at basketball as 9-5. So when it time to go home he wants to do what he wants to do...
What you described is certainly not loving basketball. 9-5 aint love. Wanting to do what he loves when he gets home, but its not ball.
@@jakasmalakas To me and you he living the dream he getting paid to play basketball and yes that is dream come true. But I promise you if you had your dream job eventually its not gonna seem so special especially if you been doing for free sense childhood.Him wanting to play games after work(again it's his job) should not translate to him hating basketball. You can say he not that invested or doesn't have the mentality to want to be better that's all certainly true. So can we say Micah Parsons hates football because instead of studying tape and working out he doing podcast? Now Ben simmons he hates basketball.
Just because you are good at something doesnt mean you have to love it. Im a software engineer, ive never liked it, i dont care for it, but turns out im somewhat decent at it and it pays well enough for me to have a comfortable life. I dont see anything wrong with that. This impossible standard guys like Jordan or Kobe set up, that you have to be a hyper competitive, hyper focused, hyper ambitious, ultimate winner or there is something wrong with you is unfair and unhealthy.
I think it's the money that went up to the roof from $5M to like $50M a salary. They just want to get their bag. I think if the salaries were like in the $2-$5 Million range still, they would be competitive.
Compare that to Allen Iverson or Jimmy Butler ...
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Perfectly valid. If you can scam millions of dollars out of a bunch of evil sports team owners, you're doing a good thing. It's a children's game. If you're 7 feet tall and can make some money for playing, you should.
Agreed they should have give the max contract in there prime not entry level and they want the money and fame not effort.
Was cool actually seeing what you look like in your ad! Only knew the voice for many years, now there is a face to the voice
I think one guy that should be on the list is DeMarcus Cousins. He had injuries but they were mostly due to him being overweight. But, what was even worse, was how bad he behaved himself around coaches and teammates. He was such a bully and a public complainer, that Kings shipped him away for almost no return during his contract year. And that really messed up his plans to lock in that huge contract. Then, he got overweight, injured and never got that mega deal.
That doesn’t mean he hates playing basketball. If anything, his on-court outbursts only show his passion for the game and competitiveness, he was just immature or didn’t know how to control himself. He tried returning to the NBA after injury multiple times. And he’s still playing in Puerto Rico, do you really think if he didn’t enjoy basketball he’d be playing in Puerto Rico right now?
@@conorwatchvidz his outbursts show he lacks self-control and is selfish, putting his interests above the team's. He also never kept his weight in check that led to all his injuries. I think he is playing in PR simply because he needs money. He spent lavishly on his rookie deal and then got peanuts.
@@mrvk39you sound dumb he loves the game learn basketball
But that doesn't mean he hates playing in the NBA...that sounds like your opinion and less than facts that if he hated basketball so much he wouldn't have rehabbed to come back. Unfortunately, teams have moved away from his style of play and his injuries have made it hard for him to come back. Him spending his money or splurging doesn't say "I hate playing."
@@Rustyblackleford this entire video is an opinion, right? none of these players actually said "I hate basketball". So, none of this are facts, just our speculations. And if you "rehab" and gain like 30 pounds like he did, that isn't doing it right. He needs to earn money, so he plays and rehabs but he is doing it half-assed because he was never held accountable for his actions and never raised right with good values.
One of the reasons LeBron has been so successful for so long is because he enjoys what he does.
I called it… after Whiteside got that contract from us in 2016…. He did not care…. We got frustrated with him during the 2017 season… this guy should’ve been a hall of famer NO DOUBT. He was so good and didn’t try
goes to show that we shouldn’t take guys like Russ, Pat Bev, Giannis, Butler, Bron for granted, they always consistently bring it and truly love the game
As a Heat fan, there was a lot of great stuff we saw in Whiteside. It was positive shift post the Lebron era. But as the years went on, we noticed he was very immature and only caring about getting his "2k rating up."
I think I'd still pick Hassan Whiteside over Ayton. Whiteside played fantastic defense and at least was consistent. Ayton hasn't played defense a day in his life and has no consistency.
AK-47 loved WOW more than the NBA
Love the new topics too in recent videos!!
Whenever I see Ben Simmons I think of the Shanghai Sharks meme
Why tf is KAT here
I mean, I'm not sure if anybody remembers him, but Larry Sanders might have been on his way to an all-star appearance at some point in his career and then literally said "I'm out."
Ben Simmons is a prime example why Ayton is just fine being stable and not improving. Imaging Ben Simmons still play like his rookie or sophomore year, he'd be doing just fine. Probably not winning a ring any time soon but he can easily make the starter spot in most teams and not worrying about the next contract.
This is literally every * insert 80s star * jr in MyEra. They have a 75-77 starting ovr, but they don't progress much beyond that.
Our dude Andy is stacked man. I thought I was listening to a stat nerd, but this dude is a G
Whiteside just retired too
Andrew wiggins should be included here,
Nikola Jokic prefers horses polo sports. Anthony Edwards prefers football.
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DeAndre Ayton
Ben Simmons
Deron Williams
Karl-Anthony Towns
Hassan Whiteside
Great Video. I was just thinking this about big men not having the same passion and drive as the guards just because they are tall and have less comp. Not sure about D Williams but KAT for sure belongs on this list. I don't care if he scored 62 one time. Jimmy was right. Wiggins should be on here as well.
Andrew Bynum
Andy, seeing sponsor part of the vid gotta ask - have you heard about microplastics?
Larry Sanders comes to mind too
Meanwhile Jokic just plays basketball to pay for his horses in Sombor
Jokic should be an honorable mention. Dude is one of the best at basketball but he sounds like he'd rather be doing a lot of other things if they paid like the NBA did.
Ben Simmons just must be on this list (Came from noti)
When you get your bag, you're going to run with it.
Anthony Edwards doesn’t even love basketball. He said numerous times he didn’t care what he plays he just loves to win and have competition.
No way, someone who hates their job?!
Thanks for another great video Andy, you’re the best!