Knowing her and loving her best from The Partridge Family, it's really fun to see Shirley Jones from much earlier here. She's absolutely delightful. I'm so happy this talented beautiful woman is still going strong. It's a shame CBS had technical difficulties during her segment.
What else can I say! Shirley Jones is yet another showbiz icon. She was blessed with one of the greatest singing voices of all time, and she's also a fine actress. I was also tickled by her falsetto voice in the mystery guest segment.
Shirley was very close friends with another (later) famous tv mom and singer, Florence Henderson, "Mrs. Brady" (1969-74). Shirley's tv series almost completely overlapped The Brady Bunch, with The Partridge Family (1970-74).
@@freeguy77 As per "Brady" costar Maureen McCormick's memoir, veteran comedienne Joyce Bulifant was considered for the role of Carol Brady. Shirley was also considered for the part.
@@domenicv7962 I actually like Bennett Cerf, as he was a very likeable and articulate publisher with a great sense of humor. This was during a time in our country, when people still respected each other.
I watched this particular episode with a sense of "nostalgia by proxy" if such a thing exists. The air date was my mother's 25th birthday and my parents' first wedding anniversary. It was an interesting experience imagining my parents at that age, and potentially sitting in their little apartment together, watching this program. Although maybe they found other ways to celebrate their anniversary! ;) I've always loved media from this era in American history, and I'm so glad these video classics have been uploaded for new generations to enjoy!
Kinda insulting not to get Shirley Jones. She said she sang and danced in movies yet they kept guessing straight actresses. And not to know "The Music Man"?
@@shuboy05 It was released on June 19, so the panel had two months to see it before this Aug. 19 air date. It is stunning that none of the panelists mentioned if she was the co-star in TMM.
Many people don't remember how beautiful she was in her younger movie roles: Carousel (1956), at 22 and her Oscar for Elmer Gantry (1960) at 26. Here at 28. Now, 88 (Dec 2022).
@@frankieaddams3937 The same year as this WML?, in "The Music Man" (rel. June 19, 1962) with Robert Preston, with him re-creating his 1957 Broadway character (Barbara Cook played 'Marian'). Supporting cast: Buddy Hackett, Pert Kelton, Paul Ford, Hermione Gingold, and 8-year-old Ronny Howard.
My son was working on a film set in Buffalo where Shirley was filming. He met her, along with Cloris Leachman. He was about 19 at the time. You will be happy to know that both ladies engaged him in conversation. They were kind and funny and my son enjoyed meeting them both immensely.
@@whizkidliz really? singer and actress .. starred in film musicals Carousel .. Oklahoma .. Music Man as they mentioned here perhaps best known as the mother in The Partridge Family
She was Laurie in Oklahoma, a wonderful movie. I would watch it every time it's on Turner Classic Movies. My college performed it and our Laurie, Curly and Judd Fry looked like those in the movie. Our Ado Annie did not. It was a wonderful experience.
I have collected Celebrity autographs for ages and I was trying to think of how many WML? Mystery guests I have signatures from. The biggest one is One of my favorite stars, Miss Shirley Jones. She is still the coolest celebrity and the only OSCAR WINNER I have met in person. She signed a picture from Oklahoma! for me. I got a hug from her, too.
I've had a crush on Shirley Jones since the late 60s when I saw the Music Man on TV. She is AMAZING! When I was in grade school in the 60s, my family had a record album of the Music Man. I used to know all the songs. I still love it! And I have seen dozens of these episodes, and I think Abe Burrows is the only person I've ever seen smoking on the show.
@gcjerryusc He got done for DUI a few years back but he was a great singer and had no issue being famous, just didn't want the image that the show gave him as a bubble gum singer rather than a rocker. Alcoholism took him in the end, but not a druggy.
Who doesn't love Shirley Jones! All her films were enjoyable and she was great in every single one. I was disappointed that half of her appearance here was interrupted by 'technical difficulties'. I assumed it was live television glitch, but then I heard announcer Johnny Olsen say the program was pre-recorded. Someone at the Tiffany network was asleep at the switch.
This was fun to watch. I remember watching this show much later. I was 2 in 1962. But it reminds me of my parents and the fun they had watching shows like this. Look at things that changed. The smoking.
Yes, Mrs. Partridge's family was attractive, especially Laurie (Susan Dey). I'm joking, of course, although actual son David Cassidy (Keith) was a teen idol regularly featured on the cover of "17" and "Tiger Beat."
Chris Bowling Actually, David Cassidy was Shirley Jones's stepson through her marriage to David's father, Jack Cassidy. Her own biological son, Shaun Cassidy, was also a teen idol, who starred with Parker Stevenson in "The Hardy Boys" TV series. Shaun is still involved in show business, as are Shirley's other two sons, Patrick and Ryan Cassidy. See www.shirleyjones.net/sons.htm. I couldn't believe how much Shaun looks like his father in the recent photo posted on the web page I linked!
+rick charles It so happened that Shirley Jones turned down the role of Carol Brady, which made her available to play Shirley Partridge. And the Carol Brady role eventually went to Shirley's best friend, Florence Henderson.
I agree with all who have commented on how beautiful Shirley Jones was/is. She is easily one of the most lovely celebrities ever. I also agree with how annoying Mr. Burrows was. The only thing worse than someone trying to be funny and not succeeding is when they think they are funny when they aren't.
SJ had such an amazing career for literally happening to be in the right place at the right time - she was on her way to college to become a veterinarian when she auditioned for Rodgers & Hammerstein!!
This show is so fun for me! I've heard the names of these celebrities from long ago, but that's it. Just a name until now. I always wiki them too and am fascinated with their bios.
I met Shirley Hones backstage after a show she did with the Boston Pops back in the 90’s at Symphony Hall in Boston. It was one of the highlights of my life! She is so beautiful!
Shirley Jones won an Academy Award for Elmer Gantry playinng a prostitute, but that was after 1962. 1962 was the year of The Music Man!@!@@nancyhowell4505
@@oldwestguy Undoubtedly one of the most stunning females to have ever graced TV or the silver screen...a simple natural beauty without having to enhance her looks in any way, shape or form. Breathtakingly beautiful on WML!
@@robertfiller8634 Very well said... "simple natural beauty." I always liked her smile... so engaging and warm. And, as you stated, there was nothing pretentious about her beauty. Quite the opposite... it stemmed from an inner charm and grace that always complemented her good looks. Can you tell I'm a big fan? Lol.
Since Arlene Francis, Dorothy Kilgallen, Bennett Cerf and John Charles Daly all smoked, I guess Abe Burrows figured it was no big deal for him to smoke during the show. Things were very different back then.
I was in college in the late 1970's. They had ashtrays on the desks. Half the class puffing away, the others said nothing. Before the Smoking Police showed up.
I was disappointed that Dorothy Kilgallen didn't ask the final challenger to compare the size of his product to a telephone booth. I'm sure it would have elicited an interesting reaction from the studio audience.
I"m in your age area, but i never got to see any WML? episodes until 1965, because it aired so late on Sunday night, a school night (10:30pm ET) after "Candid Camera" which were two of my favorite tv shows, and the Sunday tv highlight for me! Alas, it ended its long 17-year run on Sep. 3, 1967. The pale re-boot from 1968-75 did not come close to how superb the original run was! In 2013, TV Guide ranked it 9th on its list of the 60 greatest game shows ever, and Time ranked it as one of the 100 "All-Time" TV shows ever.
What amazed me was Abe Burrows with the lite cigar sitting on the panel and smoking. I guess back then people didn't care if they were right in the smoke
WHAT'S MY LINE ? is my favorite Game Show from this era; thanks for posting. My only regret is that the original commercials for these shows can't be broadcasts too.
18:55 -- It is interesting to see again what the CBS Network did when there was a technical difficulty. This certainly makes clear how the kinescoping process worked. I assumed that technicians did the kinescoping from a feed in the studio as it happened. Apparently CBS itself did the kinescope off the broadcast feed whether live or videotaped. Maybe this is a glitch or fault in the videotape itself not discovered until taping was all finished. Or something happend in the broadcast transmission.
soulierinvestments I thought it was interesting how quickly the technical difficulty slide was put up, as if they were anticipating an issue. Since the show was live, it wouldn’t have been a kinescope issue. It was most likely in the transmission itself.
Shirley has always been too much of a class act to be star popular. She just has plain old Talent and is a no nonsense actress. She was never in tabloids or in scandals.
Shirley Jones one truly talented lady gladly a young 86. Just the following in her resume makes her a great of the film fraternity. Oklahoma - Carousel - The Music Man and her Oscar winning role in Elmer Gantry. Performances you marvel at and can watch over and over again.
Stephen Vincent: I agree with everything you wrote. I loved her as Laurie. I saw Carousel but it seemed so tragic. I wish I had seen Elmer Gantry. I hope Turner Classic Movies will show it soon, but also Oklahoma. Our college performed Oklahoma; I got to be a member of the chorus. So much fun.
Another one of those heartwarming things about those "good old days"...someone right next to you blowing smoke in your face profusely...no one is doing that today...period
The panel was clearing overlooking Shirley. Shirley had won an academy award about 2 years before this show and her musical spectacular film of that same year had received critical acclaim. They had all the clues. Why couldn't they identify Shirley Jones.
Sometimes winning the award is the death knell. They win and they never can top that award winning performance. Or the academy ignores them after that. Nothing to aspire to. They are not as interesting anymore.
The regular panel used to "cheat" by looking through the NYC papers and seeing who was in town to perform or promote things and the like. Often when the celebrity was just in town, for pleasure or personal reasons, they would get off track by ignoring that and focusing in on "who's in town" aspect.
+Brooke Hanley In at least one interview, Shirley stated that she was warned if she would take the role of the mother in "The Partridge Family", it would typecast her and kill the success of her career. She took the part anyway and although the prediction proved correct, she had no regrets that she did it.
peter henry - Part of the reason is because the role she won the award for is not what she is most known for. In Elmer Gantry, she played a very different role for her, that of a prostitute, and every other role she played had been a sweet, innocent babe. So knowing that the mystery guest had won an Academy Award would not readily evoke thoughts of that kind of role when thinking of Shirley. When she vied for the part in the movie, the director originally didn't even think she could play such a role.
He said he studied at the Eastman School of Music and Columbia Univ, two of the finest schools in the country - or anywhere else, for that matter. White House military assignments traditionally are prestigious and usually only given to creme of the crop personnel. This guy fits the bill precisely.
19:17 - 20:45 This is what happened when videotape playback would be compromised by any number of factors in the early days of that technology. Think of a more complicated need to adjust the tracking on VCRs. It was not unusual to see a slide pop up on the air while technicians were fiddling with the video settings on the tape even as the audio played back cleanly. Networks would eventually come to making a dub if entire shows onto another reel of tape to play back on a separate machine - sometimes in a separate city - so that if the first one failed, a relatively clean switch could be made to the backup. All part of the growing pains of early television.
@Timothy Burton - Thank you for those recommendations! As many old films as I've seen, I've not seen those three. It was only a few years ago that I saw my first musical...and, to my surprise, loved it. Be well!
It's a crime that the "operating difficulties" prevented us from seeing more of the lovely Shirley Jones. Though I have to say Mrs. Boltz was also quite a beautiful woman.
I believe that Dorthy should have gotten a yes, when asked if she could use it, for not only she as a consumer, used telephone poles to convey her voice transactions over the telephone poles telephone wires, when put into service, but also when telephone poles are taken out of service people have been known to obtain them from the ones that take them down, and have used them on their property for things like fencepost, retaining landscaping on hillsides, etc. Because the telephone companies aren’t the only ones who use the telephone poles, because if the consumer didn’t use them, them they wouldn’t buy them.
Shirley Jones was such a hottie. I had a crush on her when I was a kid. (and Dawn Wells and Gene Tierney and Hedy Lamar and Solidad Miranda and Raquel Welch and Ann Blythe and Virna Lisi and...). Her husband Jack Cassidy was a great actor and Shawn Cassidy had produced some great stuff. She will always be "Julie" to me. How could a cowboy have not been smitten by such a girlish beauty!
The first time I saw Shirley was on the Partridge family, since I was only about 12 I had a huge crush on her. In fact I still think she and Donna Reed were the two finest 📺 moms of all time
. Ah......but she she used the PERFECT voice, that gave away absolutely NOTHING about who she was !! That said, when she answered "yes" to having won an Oscar, I was SURE it was only a matter of a few guesses before they got her !! 😄 .
As Johnny Olson says "This Program was previously recorded" and if you look at the opening you see banding from Quad video tape. The tape must have failed during the Shirley Jones segment and the slides went up (CBS Central Control ops on the ball). We are seeing a Kinescope...a film made off a TV screen so we are seeing what the nation saw as it happened. 1962 was still early in the development of video tape and that's why CBS had slides all ready for the failure. Why they didn't shoot this show on film? It would have required shooting at least two cameras (maybe three) from different angles, sorting the footage after developing and editing. More than 10 days work in those days.
Shows you that you can be at the pinnacle of show business, win an Oscar, at this point in music man yet Oklahoma , lead a respectable life, stay out of the wife swapping nightclubs, refrain from 2 day romps with your leading men who are single or married and the panel can’t figure out who you are . Your not Mansfield or monroe
@@fmtalks1543 - I had no idea Shirley Jones won an Oscar. Thank you for your response. I hope Turner Classic Movies shows Elmer Gantry soon, but there are no guarantees. Or maybe I can find it on the internet somewhere. I'd really like to see the movie.
Abe Burrows, besides smoking, was OBNOXIOUS !
The smoking just intensifies the obnoxiousness
Knowing her and loving her best from The Partridge Family, it's really fun to see Shirley Jones from much earlier here. She's absolutely delightful. I'm so happy this talented beautiful woman is still going strong. It's a shame CBS had technical difficulties during her segment.
What else can I say! Shirley Jones is yet another showbiz icon. She was blessed with one of the greatest singing voices of all time, and she's also a fine actress. I was also tickled by her falsetto voice in the mystery guest segment.
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Bennett Cerf was so boring
Shirley was very close friends with another (later) famous tv mom and singer, Florence Henderson, "Mrs. Brady" (1969-74). Shirley's tv series almost completely overlapped The Brady Bunch, with The Partridge Family (1970-74).
@@freeguy77 As per "Brady" costar Maureen McCormick's memoir, veteran comedienne Joyce Bulifant was considered for the role of Carol Brady. Shirley was also considered for the part.
@@domenicv7962 I actually like Bennett Cerf, as he was a very likeable and articulate publisher with a great sense of humor. This was during a time in our country, when people still respected each other.
I watched this particular episode with a sense of "nostalgia by proxy" if such a thing exists. The air date was my mother's 25th birthday and my parents' first wedding anniversary. It was an interesting experience imagining my parents at that age, and potentially sitting in their little apartment together, watching this program. Although maybe they found other ways to celebrate their anniversary! ;) I've always loved media from this era in American history, and I'm so glad these video classics have been uploaded for new generations to enjoy!
I knew Shirley Jones as the mother on The Partridge Family, so it's always a blast to see her as a sweet young thing.
As various people have told me, she is still with us. Which is great. A very talented woman.
When you typed that she was 87. She is now 88.
She celebrated her 90th birthday on Mar. 31 (2024). Happy 90th Birthday, Shirley!
Love it! This is one of the few times I have seen where the panel was stumped; bravo, Shirley Jones!
The hilarious part is everyone forgot about The Music Man!
A Couple.. Seeming "Shoe-in's" evaded them.. .....which is VERY (Very) Strange Indeed..
Robert Mitchum and Louis Jourdan being two, odd - surprises..
Kinda insulting not to get Shirley Jones. She said she sang and danced in movies yet they kept guessing straight actresses. And not to know "The Music Man"?
@@shuboy05 It is entirely possible TMM was so recently released in '62, the panelists had not seen it.
@@shuboy05 It was released on June 19, so the panel had two months to see it before this Aug. 19 air date. It is stunning that none of the panelists mentioned if she was the co-star in TMM.
Shirley Jones was an immense talent.
She was a terrific actress, yes!
An immense racist.
I love shirley.
Many people don't remember how beautiful she was in her younger movie roles: Carousel (1956), at 22 and her Oscar for Elmer Gantry (1960) at 26. Here at 28. Now, 88 (Dec 2022).
Oklahoma!
Happy 90th birthday, beautiful and talented, Shirley Jones! 🎉
@@frankieaddams3937 The same year as this WML?, in "The Music Man" (rel. June 19, 1962) with Robert Preston, with him re-creating his 1957 Broadway character (Barbara Cook played 'Marian'). Supporting cast: Buddy Hackett, Pert Kelton, Paul Ford, Hermione Gingold, and 8-year-old Ronny Howard.
@@Brandi111. I wish her all the best in also celebrating her 90th on Mar. 31! What a fabulous career she had!
don't forget The Courtship of Eddie's Father - she was adorable in that! (her second outing with Ronny Howard)
Shirley Jones has been a major "crush" of mine for many, many, many years. She's always been so captivatingly beautiful.
My son was working on a film set in Buffalo where Shirley was filming. He met her, along with Cloris Leachman. He was about 19 at the time. You will be happy to know that both ladies engaged him in conversation. They were kind and funny and my son enjoyed meeting them both immensely.
@@mariannaryan456 Sounds pretty sweet. How long ago was that?
Who could NOT love Shirley Jones!
So true. She was amazing in several films. I thought she was superb in Oklahoma, but then I saw Carousel and completely fell in love with her.
Who is she?
Don't forget Julie Andrews
@@whizkidliz
really?
singer and actress .. starred in film musicals Carousel .. Oklahoma .. Music Man as they mentioned here
perhaps best known as the mother in The Partridge Family
@@kazoosc and won an Oscar for "Elmer Gantry."
The very beautiful Shirley Jones. ❤️
And Shirley Jones still has a beautiful voice.
Robert Mitchum fooled them too.
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Boy I always thought Shirley was the coolest mum ever in the partridge family, smart and great looking and talented, glad she's still going.
Wasn't Abe Burrows a mayor of New York?
She was Laurie in Oklahoma, a wonderful movie. I would watch it every time it's on Turner Classic Movies. My college performed it and our Laurie, Curly and Judd Fry looked like those in the movie. Our Ado Annie did not. It was a wonderful experience.
@@shirleyrombough8173 You are mixing him up with Abe Beame, a mayor of NYC, 1974-1977.
Such a major talent, and very beautiful
Shirley Jones is simply beautiful as are her three sons. Shaun, Patrick and Ryan. Also the late David Cassidy. Her stepson.
The boys always seemed to love their Mother, including David Cassidy.
I have collected Celebrity autographs for ages and I was trying to think of how many WML? Mystery guests I have signatures from.
The biggest one is One of my favorite stars, Miss Shirley Jones.
She is still the coolest celebrity and the only OSCAR WINNER
I have met in person. She signed a picture from Oklahoma! for me.
I got a hug from her, too.
How old were you when you got to meet her? Must have been a big thrill, and also get a hug!
I've had a crush on Shirley Jones since the late 60s when I saw the Music Man on TV. She is AMAZING!
When I was in grade school in the 60s, my family had a record album of the Music Man. I used to know all the songs. I still love it!
And I have seen dozens of these episodes, and I think Abe Burrows is the only person I've ever seen smoking on the show.
To me Abe Burrows' personality was as sloppy as his habit.
Arlene was smoking in her very first episode.
Just, began re-watching The Partridge Family(I was 10, when it debuted). I think Shirley Jones gets more beautiful, with the passage, of time.
@gcjerryusc He got done for DUI a few years back but he was a great singer and had no issue being famous, just didn't want the image that the show gave him as a bubble gum singer rather than a rocker. Alcoholism took him in the end, but not a druggy.
Who doesn't love Shirley Jones! All her films were enjoyable and she was great in every single one. I was disappointed that half of her appearance here was interrupted by 'technical difficulties'. I assumed it was live television glitch, but then I heard announcer Johnny Olsen say the program was pre-recorded. Someone at the Tiffany network was asleep at the switch.
No past tense on Shirley yet. ☺
This was fun to watch. I remember watching this show much later. I was 2 in 1962. But it reminds me of my parents and the fun they had watching shows like this. Look at things that changed. The smoking.
What a great career Shirley Jones had and a beautiful family too.
Yes, Mrs. Partridge's family was attractive, especially Laurie (Susan Dey). I'm joking, of course, although actual son David Cassidy (Keith) was a teen idol regularly featured on the cover of "17" and "Tiger Beat."
Chris Bowling
Actually, David Cassidy was Shirley Jones's stepson through her marriage to David's father, Jack Cassidy. Her own biological son, Shaun Cassidy, was also a teen idol, who starred with Parker Stevenson in "The Hardy Boys" TV series. Shaun is still involved in show business, as are Shirley's other two sons, Patrick and Ryan Cassidy. See www.shirleyjones.net/sons.htm. I couldn't believe how much Shaun looks like his father in the recent photo posted on the web page I linked!
Chris Bowling Had a crush on Mrs. Partridge AND Mrs. Brady!
+rick charles
It so happened that Shirley Jones turned down the role of Carol Brady, which made her available to play Shirley Partridge. And the Carol Brady role eventually went to Shirley's best friend, Florence Henderson.
@@loissimmons6558 Never knee they were best friends. She would have been great as Carol too.
I agree with all who have commented on how beautiful Shirley Jones was/is. She is easily one of the most lovely celebrities ever. I also agree with how annoying Mr. Burrows was. The only thing worse than someone trying to be funny and not succeeding is when they think they are funny when they aren't.
AGREE.
@@dancelli714 And smoking up a storm and also clearly irritating Arlene. The most annoying guest panelist who ever appeared on WML.
I agree with u re Abe Burrows. I would put the very unfunny Victor Borge in that category.
@@garydeblasio8810 I actuslly liked Victor Borge. While a little of him went a long way, I found him to at least be somewhat clever and original.
@@oldwestguy really, another egomaniac who couldn't stand not being the center of attention.
Thank you for uploading these episodes! :)
It's a pleasure!
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It is amazing to see these guys smoking on live tv. No wonder they all looked old beyond their years.
Johnny Carson smoked on air for many many years after this. So did his guests. Dean Martin comes to mind.
It's Shirley Jones as I have never seen her before!! Thanks kindly, Ms. Jones!!!! :) :)
SJ had such an amazing career for literally happening to be in the right place at the right time - she was on her way to college to become a veterinarian when she auditioned for Rodgers & Hammerstein!!
This show is so fun for me! I've heard the names of these celebrities from long ago, but that's it. Just a name until now. I always wiki them too and am fascinated with their bios.
Old movies are fantastic - you should check out some of their shows. :)
@JamesR I do the same
She was a huge talent. So much better than the Partridge Family she was known for.
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Watch the movie, "Grandma's Boy". Shirley was Fantastic. 💕
Shirley was fantastic in the Partridge Family! One of the first single moms on tv and sung beautifully on every record!
Shirley, beautiful lady!
Shirley Jones still alive, still gorgeous and talking sexy about her perfect life.
I love Shirley Jones! Talented, wtty, intelligent and lovely! She's an American treasure!❤
I know it was a different time but I can almost smell Abe's' cigarette and coughed a little.
I think it has set off an asthma attack for me!
I would laugh, but.. it only hurts when I laugh.
Her waist was so tiny. 8 months after giving birth to Patrick. She is truly stellar. Love her in the Music Man.
I met Shirley Hones backstage after a show she did with the Boston Pops back in the 90’s at Symphony Hall in Boston. It was one of the highlights of my life! She is so beautiful!
What a great program! I don’t understand how they missed Shirley Jones!
The panel is so savvy and everything was clearly laid out. How did they fail to guess this is Shirley Jones???
So very young, "new," under their radar for a celebrity mystery guest, perhaps? Didn't seem to credit how accomplished she was! (Academy Award???) 😳
Shirley Jones won an Academy Award for Elmer Gantry playinng a prostitute, but that was after 1962. 1962 was the year of The Music Man!@!@@nancyhowell4505
This was just a little over 3 years before Dorothy was 'silenced' for asking too many questions......
Silenced for drinking too much while she was taking sleeping pills.
Absolutely gorgeous...Shirley Jones.
I used to live in Fort Collins CO, and we had a Boltz Junior High School. I need to look her up!
Shirley Jones Gorgeous in this time period - very attractive
always Gorgeous
MG Philly is
Gorgeous in every period. She had... and has... a natural beauty unmatched before or since.
@@oldwestguy Undoubtedly one of the most stunning females to have ever graced TV or the silver screen...a simple natural beauty without having to enhance her looks in any way, shape or form. Breathtakingly beautiful on WML!
@@robertfiller8634 Very well said... "simple natural beauty." I always liked her smile... so engaging and warm. And, as you stated, there was nothing pretentious about her beauty. Quite the opposite... it stemmed from an inner charm and grace that always complemented her good looks. Can you tell I'm a big fan? Lol.
In this day and age these TV shows seem unreal to me, surreal.
very fond of all her movies
It's hard to believe that in that day people would smoke in others' presence when they had no way to move out of the vicinity.
Since Arlene Francis, Dorothy Kilgallen, Bennett Cerf and John Charles Daly all smoked, I guess Abe Burrows figured it was no big deal for him to smoke during the show. Things were very different back then.
I don't think people had the same understanding we do today of how dangerous smoking is to our health.
We didn’t mind. We had more important issues to be upset about. Arlene smoked too, also John and sometimes on the air. Taint nothing 😊
Arlene smoked when she appeared on Match Game. Shirley Jones also was a smoker.
I was in college in the late 1970's. They had ashtrays on the desks. Half the class puffing away, the others said nothing. Before the Smoking Police showed up.
Shirley Jones, what a beauty. Class all the way.
She's a racist.
I was disappointed that Dorothy Kilgallen didn't ask the final challenger to compare the size of his product to a telephone booth. I'm sure it would have elicited an interesting reaction from the studio audience.
so much second-hand smoke in the 60's
This aired on my 10th birthday. :-)
I"m in your age area, but i never got to see any WML? episodes until 1965, because it aired so late on Sunday night, a school night (10:30pm ET) after "Candid Camera" which were two of my favorite tv shows, and the Sunday tv highlight for me! Alas, it ended its long 17-year run on Sep. 3, 1967. The pale re-boot from 1968-75 did not come close to how superb the original run was! In 2013, TV Guide ranked it 9th on its list of the 60 greatest game shows ever, and Time ranked it as one of the 100 "All-Time" TV shows ever.
Happy Birthday Saturday, Shirley ! 84 years young!
Shirley Jones is 87 now
What amazed me was Abe Burrows with the lite cigar sitting on the panel and smoking. I guess back then people didn't care if they were right in the smoke
WHAT'S MY LINE ? is my favorite Game Show from this era; thanks for posting.
My only regret is that the original commercials for these shows can't be broadcasts too.
Sometimes they are.
CBS's technical difficulties during this episode are regrettable, but they were quite commonplace during television's earlier days.
What a beautiful woman !!!!!
18:55 -- It is interesting to see again what the CBS Network did when there was a technical difficulty. This certainly makes clear how the kinescoping process worked. I assumed that technicians did the kinescoping from a feed in the studio as it happened. Apparently CBS itself did the kinescope off the broadcast feed whether live or videotaped. Maybe this is a glitch or fault in the videotape itself not discovered until taping was all finished. Or something happend in the broadcast transmission.
It was a fun picture they had of the regular panel there.
soulierinvestments I thought it was interesting how quickly the technical difficulty slide was put up, as if they were anticipating an issue. Since the show was live, it wouldn’t have been a kinescope issue. It was most likely in the transmission itself.
Shirley has always been too much of a class act to be star popular. She just has plain old Talent and is a no nonsense actress. She was never in tabloids or in scandals.
It sounds like you fell for Shirley Jones! :-)
Right!
Shirley looks absolutely gorgeous here.
Shirley Jones one truly talented lady gladly a young 86. Just the following in her resume makes her a great of the film fraternity. Oklahoma - Carousel - The Music Man and her Oscar winning role in Elmer Gantry. Performances you marvel at and can watch over and over again.
Stephen Vincent: I agree with everything you wrote. I loved her as Laurie. I saw Carousel but it seemed so tragic. I wish I had seen Elmer Gantry. I hope Turner Classic Movies will show it soon, but also Oklahoma. Our college performed Oklahoma; I got to be a member of the chorus. So much fun.
She celebrated her 90th on Mar. 31 (2024), two weeks ago!
Very attractive woman back then and still looks good now
Another one of those heartwarming things about those "good old days"...someone right next to you blowing smoke in your face profusely...no one is doing that today...period
amazing they missed here since Shirley had just won her Oscar the year before at the 1961 Academy Awards
One of those people who got more beautiful as she aged. I really love Ms. Jones
Loved her in The Courtship of Eddie’s Father’ movie with Glenn Ford and Ronnie Howard. They were all superb actors.
Gorgeous Woman......too bad the video died.
Watching this I can't imagine her on The Partridge Family.
Shirley was very pretty
She was gorgeous as Lulu Baines.
Too adorable!!!
Shirley Is Beautiful and a great singer
Shirley Jones is THE BOMB!
Admittedly, I like the authenticity of the disruption messages during the Mystery Guest round!
The segment with the Marine sergeant was interesting. I have a grandnephew who served in the Corps. Semper Fi!!
Great to see the wonderful Shirley Jones in one of her pre-Partridge appearances
The panel was clearing overlooking Shirley. Shirley had won an academy award about 2 years before this show and her musical spectacular film of that same year had received critical acclaim. They had all the clues. Why couldn't they identify Shirley Jones.
Sometimes winning the award is the death knell. They win and they never can top that award winning performance. Or the academy ignores them after that. Nothing to aspire to. They are not as interesting anymore.
peter henry I felt a little bad for Shirley but it seemed she always worked for many years after that.
The regular panel used to "cheat" by looking through the NYC papers and seeing who was in town to perform or promote things and the like. Often when the celebrity was just in town, for pleasure or personal reasons, they would get off track by ignoring that and focusing in on "who's in town" aspect.
+Brooke Hanley
In at least one interview, Shirley stated that she was warned if she would take the role of the mother in "The Partridge Family", it would typecast her and kill the success of her career. She took the part anyway and although the prediction proved correct, she had no regrets that she did it.
peter henry - Part of the reason is because the role she won the award for is not what she is most known for. In Elmer Gantry, she played a very different role for her, that of a prostitute, and every other role she played had been a sweet, innocent babe. So knowing that the mystery guest had won an Academy Award would not readily evoke thoughts of that kind of role when thinking of Shirley. When she vied for the part in the movie, the director originally didn't even think she could play such a role.
Shirley Jones woz very talented!
Shirley Jones s name in Oklahoma was Laurie . 😄
Dawn Early - I love Oklahoma and try to see it whenever it is shown on TV. She was a great Laurie.
Shirley Jones is an amazing lady!
As of Aug . 2019 Shirley Jones is still alive .
,She is still.alive at 88 on March 31 2022 .
She is still alive in September 2023.
The future Shirley Partridge. I love her.
The White House dance band leader seemed so pleasant, not to mention intelligent and educated.
He said he studied at the Eastman School of Music and Columbia Univ, two of the finest schools in the country - or anywhere else, for that matter. White House military assignments traditionally are prestigious and usually only given to creme of the crop personnel. This guy fits the bill precisely.
19:17 - 20:45 This is what happened when videotape playback would be compromised by any number of factors in the early days of that technology. Think of a more complicated need to adjust the tracking on VCRs. It was not unusual to see a slide pop up on the air while technicians were fiddling with the video settings on the tape even as the audio played back cleanly. Networks would eventually come to making a dub if entire shows onto another reel of tape to play back on a separate machine - sometimes in a separate city - so that if the first one failed, a relatively clean switch could be made to the backup. All part of the growing pains of early television.
I loved the "technical difficulties" part ! Totally made me feel like I was born in the 1950s
I notice that, at the end of the show, Daly didn't thank Burrows for being on the panel.
My goodness, Shirley is stunning.
Just watch a few of her movies. She was an absolute doll. Oklahoma, The Music Man, and my favorite.....Carousel.
@Timothy Burton - Thank you for those recommendations! As many old films as I've seen, I've not seen those three. It was only a few years ago that I saw my first musical...and, to my surprise, loved it. Be well!
@@karlhungus5554 - YW...You will NOT be disappointed.
@@secondstring Shirley was lovely and so charming in "The Courtship of Eddie's Father" too. A wonderful film.
She's a babe. I never have seen her really glammed up....she's a knockout anyway!
Arlene in her mid 50's in this episode, and looking gorgeous.
It's a crime that the "operating difficulties" prevented us from seeing more of the lovely Shirley Jones. Though I have to say Mrs. Boltz was also quite a beautiful woman.
I just love watching these old show s and the beautiful dresses Arlene and Dorothy wear.
When this aired no one in America had heard of the Beatles.
I believe that Dorthy should have gotten a yes, when asked if she could use it, for not only she as a consumer, used telephone poles to convey her voice transactions over the telephone poles telephone wires, when put into service, but also when telephone poles are taken out of service people have been known to obtain them from the ones that take them down, and have used them on their property for things like fencepost, retaining landscaping on hillsides, etc. Because the telephone companies aren’t the only ones who use the telephone poles, because if the consumer didn’t use them, them they wouldn’t buy them.
Arlene Francis was I believe, the longest serving member of the panel.
She was. Not even close
Shirley Jones was such a hottie. I had a crush on her when I was a kid. (and Dawn Wells and Gene Tierney and Hedy Lamar and Solidad Miranda and Raquel Welch and Ann Blythe and Virna Lisi and...). Her husband Jack Cassidy was a great actor and Shawn Cassidy had produced some great stuff. She will always be "Julie" to me. How could a cowboy have not been smitten by such a girlish beauty!
Felt bad they didn't guess Shirley...I think the Mystery Guests want to be guessed and know they are popular.
She seemed pleased they didn't get her. She won an Academy Award, and was young here, so, I don't think she has to prove anything to anyone.
@@Theyralltakenfu Doubt it.
@@m.e.d.7997 LOL, I don't doubt that you doubt it, because you're the one who originally posted the comment.
The first time I saw Shirley was on the Partridge family, since I was only about 12 I had a huge crush on her. In fact I still think she and Donna Reed were the two finest 📺 moms of all time
Imagine not getting Shirley Jones! She sang "You'll Never Walk Alone".
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Ah......but she she used the PERFECT voice, that gave away absolutely NOTHING about who she was !!
That said, when she answered "yes" to having won an Oscar, I was SURE it was only a matter of a few guesses before they got her !! 😄
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As Johnny Olson says "This Program was previously recorded" and if you look at the opening you see banding from Quad video tape. The tape must have failed during the Shirley Jones segment and the slides went up (CBS Central Control ops on the ball). We are seeing a Kinescope...a film made off a TV screen so we are seeing what the nation saw as it happened. 1962 was still early in the development of video tape and that's why CBS had slides all ready for the failure. Why they didn't shoot this show on film? It would have required shooting at least two cameras (maybe three) from different angles, sorting the footage after developing and editing. More than 10 days work in those days.
Shirley is lovely in "The courtship of Eddie's father."
Shows you that you can be at the pinnacle of show business, win an Oscar, at this point in music man yet Oklahoma , lead a respectable life, stay out of the wife swapping nightclubs, refrain from 2 day romps with your leading men who are single or married and the panel can’t figure out who you are . Your not Mansfield or monroe
My youngest daughter went to Eastman and played violin at the Kennedy Center, she was offered a position in the MC band but declined it.
Barbara Ludena I went to Eastman! Graduated in 1983.
Shirley Jones big ups to you
Looks like Abe Burrows, would like to burn the set down with all his smoke!
Huh, I had no idea Shirley Jones had an Oscar! Also a rare celebrity stumper
For what movie did Shirley Jones win an Oscar?
@@fmtalks1543 - I had no idea Shirley Jones won an Oscar. Thank you for your response. I hope Turner Classic Movies shows Elmer Gantry soon, but there are no guarantees. Or maybe I can find it on the internet somewhere. I'd really like to see the movie.
Iv seen the panel drunk about every Sundayevening. My word.....
The challenger named Suzanne reminds me of Erin Moran.
Joanie Cunningham?