Joe Budden DEBATES Rory & Mal vs NEW CAST!? "The show is bigger than it ever was"!
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The chemistry with Rory & Mal can never be duplicated. The old episodes have replay value. Joe became the machine he raged against.
Cook 👨🏽🍳
They new show been going on for 3 years. And i can barely remember 15 classic moments. The old cast had like 200-300...
Factssssss. I regularly go back and watch the old episodes and watch for the laughs.
That's 100% true I still go back and listen to some episodes and they're still hilarious
The machine he raged against...Oh lordt, y'all keep reusing that same line. Come up with something else!
Its bigger now numbers wise, but the Rory & Mal era is unmatched
Money wise for him..
I'm not gonna lie, when rory and mal was on I would also listen to the audio and then watch the UA-cam videos
Same
Same!
“It pains him”
- Mal
If Joe had Rory, mal, parks, ish and Melyssa Ford. This would of been a dynasty
Mel is a trash podder.Dont know why you included her lol
I feel more like Bridgette Rory Mal and ish and parks. Mel is great but I haven’t seen her be as lively since her first episode on jbp. She hasn’t contributed much to me since then
If a podcast is number 1 in 2019 why wouldn't the podcast grow? Mf talking about numbers rather than CONTENT that shit was unmatched back then
joe with rory and mal would have me crying they were hilarious now its more of a serious tone i like both but earlier pods i would have to pull over on the side of the road from laughter
Joe is the ultimate spin doctor. First "numbers don't matter as impact cant be measured." Now numbers dictate how bigger the pod is lol. Little shit like this is why he can't R&M left in the first place. Homie can't ever keep it real
The 3 of them dudes were magic together. On everything, nothing has compared as far as podding is concerned.
Joe knows the show was better with Rory and Mal. That show was a constant stream of laughs. Those that watch the show for serious takes will disagree. But I could care less what any of them think about current events. The appeal was the random jokes. And the chemistry of the original three will never be replicated. I mean come on. There is an episode Parks comes out of nowhere and says the guy from Jurassic park was at one point taking all his women. 😂😂😂
You don't get it. That's an OPINION. Joe is saying the stats say this current version is bigger. I believe him bc the Patreon is booming and you have people like Danny getting subscribers off Joe's nuts
Bingo!!!!!!! Who gives a fuck about serious takes
jeff goldblum ep thats my alltime fav joe budden pod ep with the old cast ..
Facts the R&M era will never be matched they could talk music 2 topics and sleepers for 3hrs easy cuz the chemistry was there
Classic
You think fast on your feet with Joe. Good shit
Danny refuses to let the r&m era go😊
Joe knows for a fact that if Rory and Mal were still standing next to him he would have had that $20million dollar deal he fought to get, back when he was with Spotify or with any other company that was willing to give them such a big deal. Yeah Joe podcast is doing good and is still relevant, but once again Joe would not have seen success in his podcast ventures without Rory and Mal. That is just literally a fact. His numbers, tours, cartoons clips, and compilation clips from other UA-camrs featuring the OG podcast blew the podcast game out of here (aside from Joe Rogan).
Joe is very lucky to have people around him to help extend his bridge in the podcast game after this whole break up and at this point if any of his new host were to leave the show we all know why and we’re not going to sit here and not say it isn’t Joe fault, because if Joe could truly do this podcasting by himself he would have, but time and time again he shows that he needs co-host to bounce conversations off of, so I hope he continues to treat his new crew well and continues to have success, but to keep yelling to the world that his new podcast is better than his previous one is just delusional and straight 🧢🧢🧢🧢!
Facts everyday Joe was begging them to talk..IDK what show they use to watch..Joe was begging them to talk and bring anything@@TribalCheif-ku4vn
That was the golden era of JBP. Time for a new era tho.
Bionic six is a little pu$$y when it comes to controversial topics. They hide behind worrying about getting “cancelled” but I feel like they just haven’t done their research a lot of times.
I mean the fanbase is kinda split in half. People who watch Rory and Mal used to watch JBP on top of people who still do and those who stopped after the split
I watch both.😂
I watch both but I don’t watch either as much as I watched when they were together. I damn near saw every episode back then.. now I miss a few on both sides
JBP is bigger now. Agreed. That doesn’t mean it’s better.
I literally know the exact locations of where I was at with The Story of Antwan and Durex Condoms on my Mail Route. That’s how FUNNY and CLASSIC those moments were!!!
Jokes and chemistry = definitely Rory and Mal era
Serious discussions and great convos = Bionic 6
both great! But the OG made u feel like u were chillin with ur homies.
The golden era of podcasts had a lot of momentum until the money came in..I think overall interest in them has plateaued
Joe doesn't laugh nearly as much as he did with Rory and Mal. The listeners are in the same boat.
He was happier then
I agree the Pod is still good but nowhere near the Rory and Mal era.. To be fair we can’t expect for that to be replicated..
When you add, you dilute. That's what Danny is getting at. When it was the Rory and Mal era, the pod could stand alone. After that era, when the split happened, look at how many shows popped up. And things that Joe said he'd never do, he started doing, claiming that he never said that he'd never do them.
What the old cast did consistently, the bionic 6 and many more are trying to accomplish currently. and that's a steady flow
This is the equivalent of people from different times comparing economics but not adjusting for inflation.
Joe, Rory and Mal are never getting back together! Danny I fux with you but you and everyone else are going to watch and support Joe no matter what lol
Joe knows you're right. The Joe, Mal & Rory era was the best era of the JBP. This new era is nowhere near the greatness of the old crew. When Tsu Surf comes home, he'll be the 7th mic. Joe tryna rebirth the chemistry and dope content with as many people as possible lol he might have Akademiks come in once a month. Nothing Joe is doing is beating or better than the Rory and Mal era. Nothing. Joe knows it but will never admit it. If yall saying Rory and Mal can tour because of Joe then why cant his current crew tour WITH Joe?
I haven’t listened to a full episode this year and I don’t know if I will lol did I outgrow this shit? Idk, every time I bring myself to listen I feel like I know what’s going to be said. Shit feels like a chore.
Its a bigger business. Rory and Mal era was more popular but it dont make the same amount of money. Its the same thing as music the old albums hit but the current ones are what feed everybody
That’s because you build… back then they only did twice per week.. now it’s multiple pods a week
@@nikkideevahThat was one of their beefs. Mal specifically barely wanted to do two pods lol.
I agree with Joe but it still would’ve been bigger even if Mal and Rory stayed
Random freestyles, Joe career/Pump it up jokes, Mal saying “that’s crazy”, Pause/Ayoo moments the list goes on, greatest podcast of all time, you really felt like you were in the room with them.
Exactly, you felt like you were kicking it with your friends after a long week……now it definitely feels like your watching a scripted, overly produced show
Big facts. Even when they barely had topics to cover they still had people watching and listening. Because it came of genuine vs scripted!
I can still hear Mal screaming while everyone is crying laughing “she still got her hymeeeen!” Amazing era
@@dsario174 lmao I can still hear Mal saying “THATS CRAZY”!!..
Oh and for old time sakes when Mal jokes on Joe and Joe stands up to play fight Mal. Hilarious and legendary moments 😂😂
@@dsario174”the grand concourse you know I’m on course” 😂😂😂😂😂
The Rory mal era was just better . Everyone grew up and got money and shit changed .
Seems like things are being conflated in terms of bigger based on impact vs looking at bigger based on metrics. If we are talking about metrics then it is silly to say that the numbers across the board are not higher today than they were with Rory and Mal.
Am I missing something or is Danny the only one bringing into conversation the terms “Better” or “Best”? Lol. The conversation seems very straight forward so the confusion is confusing me. I didn’t think it was a question if the pod is bigger now than it was previously. The pod has gone viral in the last year or so more than ever before, they are inviting more guest and doing more interviews. There are now much more channels and podcast about podcast (like yours) covering this podcast and all these factors drive more views, traffic & engagement. That is what “Bigger” means. “Better” is a completely different conversation. Without even looking at tangible numbers, you can feel the impact of the show stretches much further than it ever did before.
Yea idk how this is even an argument tbh unless they’re speaking of better like you said.
Joe's viral moments are calculated now a days as compared to back then it was more organic
@@swayrodd And even if so, that means what? If it is driving more views and engagement how does that change the point?
@nik0Tesla it's not doing more views than the old pod with Rory & Mal..the old pods used to do at least 300k an episode..& we talking regular episodes no guests or viral shit..just regular episodes kicking it
Joe is a shadow of his former self. His podcast was far more interesting when he was still HUNGRY!
@@PeterStone-hy6ir please don’t play that card, this guys ego is out of control and everyone can see it!
RIP "Tank top" Joe.
He’s always had an ego but he at least used to have a shred of self-awareness. That’s completely gone now that’s he’s achieved his dream of being a rich boss
@@PeterStone-hy6irit wasn’t struggle it was a different Joe… Joe is super industry now.. the early days Joe used to say whatever.. he’s too PC now
@@RaBBy1875xagree
Lmaoooo , HERE we go 😭🤨🫣⌛️
Joe is right. It is more viewership
Why did you delete the video where Rory was talking about the card he dropped off at AK house? Did Rory hit you up to take it down?
Rory and Mal era is the best era
The old pod had better rants…now they are bigger so they have to censor themselves more to protect relationships.
It’s gotten bigger and better. Theirs so many pods that have been birthed since the 2016-2021 run. The live podcast comparison, hasn’t been done since 2021 when joe canceled it. Preference wise I’m rolling with the pod now. More diverse, more enlightening, bigger overall audience.
The pod now calls Joe out way more than Rory and Mal
Impact and popularity can be 2 different things even tho the rory and mal era might be looked at more fondly doesn't mean they where making more money or had a bigger fan base
Danny got to take the L if your argument was a clips UA-cam page view…not valid facts…think your bias on fav era killed your objectiveness with this debate
The pod grew over the years so it’s only natural the numbers are higher… doesn’t mean it’s bigger than before has anything to do with the Rory & mal and just natural growth. It would be just as good and big if they were in the pod still .
Joe is telling the truth the show has became way bigger!
The average UA-cam numbers are bigger with Rory and Mal than the new podcast you can easily compare them
It May be bigger now but by No means is it better, More Cohost's now and Guest's come on now which is why it might be " bigger" now
it absolutely is better now its bigger with a larger and more powerful reach with more advanced topics…. yall being nostalgic but the numbers dont lie
I prefer the current pod but i certainly came in late. As a newer listener (one year) I have tried to go back and listen to rory and mal and I wasn’t ever captivated
If you’re new to the JBP….you will never understand the dynamic with Joe RNM and parks, that podcast was a dynasty.
I was listening since episode 2....they had Mari, Rosenberg, and Rory back then....This version with all these folks is not close to the Rory and Mal era. from around episode 80 to like the mid 350's cannot be touched. Too many classic pods and moments. Now it's more of a reality show setup like the Real World.
I just want to know how any of your points have validity when the Joe Rory and Mal episodes have hella replay value all under Joe’s IP? What are you talking about?
It’s more drama filled. It’s entertaining a certain corner in the JPB community on Twitter. They like drama and gossip. Show has strayed far from what it was. But Budden always liked being sassy lol
the show is FARRRRR BETTER now than what it is then …
Nostalgia and the love for those gentlemen overshadows whats true ..
No one really likes when their parents split … And pops finds prettier woman than your mother …
and its hard to be objective when you feel that way
100% Bigger, can't deny that
It definitely is bigger now.
It might be of popular opinion that it was better back then but it’s bigger now.
I like the old one better It seems more real. Now it seems scripting
I wonder why no one has yet to ask Joe why he hasn't been on tour since the breakup? He canceled and never rescheduled that tour from 2022.
they don't have chemistry, even in a produced setting. doing that live would be terrible
science@@emperorlivion
Cap it was way bigger with Rory& mal
The numbers say otherwise. Y’all love Rory and mal so much but don’t even listen to their pod 😂
The lakers are bigger now than what it was when magic won lol
And if it’s bigger and more everything ? Why not tour ? Why not sell merch ? Why not do meet and greets ? Yeah we all know why
Don’t do this mane!!!! 😂😂😂
It’s literally the same shit every one of these pods is doing. He’s a millionaire without that bs. It didn’t help the pod before 😭 yall kids don’t understand basic economics and having to take 6+ people on the road. There’s no money in that shit.
@@trnc9082no money in selling out shows😂😂….tell us more Mr Business, maybe you can tell ALL the artists going on tour how it doesnt make any money
It’s not about Danny loving “Rory and mal” so much, it’s the simple fact that Joe Budden, Rory, and maybe even Mal’s lame ass were the greatest they were as a group. Rory & Mal by themselves were wack af. Joe was definitely the main draw but Rory > Parks > Mal complimented him the best. I really like Ice too. I’d go as far as to say Joe, parks, Rory, and ice would be elite chemistry with the best content. Ish is okay but I’m so sick of his “I’m too cool barely invested in this try hard” presence. Mel and flip are just downright slow.
I think Joe and mal and rory were genuine friends they just fell out
Facts it is.
I loved the podcast with Rory and mal. That was a run. I definitely listened to the audio and watched the visual as well. I also had pods saved for when I had a day and needed a good laugh .thr one thing I dislike about the pod now it’s more girl vs guy and debate heavy at times . Sometimes I’m not as engaged and other times I am. We’re in a different kind of era now tho so the pod was bound to change in a way. Rory and mal are doing well, THE JBP is still doing well and I’m happy for all
Joe miss them boys 😭
Rory and Mal era will never be matched.
I don’t look forward to anyone new Joe adds cuz it’s just another REGULAR co host. Joe gave Mal the drug dealer narrative and ran with it. Rory the only co host that would share toxic shit returning the same energy that Joe needed to be more open with his story telling that i missed so much. Everybody nowadays so caught up in their “brand” that they don’t put themselves out there like that. BUT I will say ish gets my respect cuz he shared that laser hair removal story and that shit was hilarious 😂…a perfect example of what’s missing in the podcast
The fact is yall just miss him and Rory .. I don’t understand how yall miss Mal but don’t like ice cream
Yea Mal was Too Cool at Times, but at least he was Tolerable on the JBP. Ice isn’t Good, at all.
Joe is talking to Danny now.
😂😂😂 Keep up your good work Brother.
I know, but Joe went from calling him "these blog guys" to "you b¡tch a$$ ni66as" to "Hey!!! Danny"; now to having conversations. Good job Danny. Keep it up.
The show is definitely better without those two cornballs.
You also can’t go off the whole number because most of those old episodes still exist. So unless we know where the views specifically came from you can’t know how much is the new cast or people re watching old episodes.
I was there, the old pod used to average 600k to a mill per episode, new ones barely average 300k lol
@@thedondon911911 that’s was before the Patreon. Now the views are split up.
Great point on the clips page,the new rory and mal pod has the same feel .the jbp feels like the uncle pod😂
Ish and Joe invented podding . I still listen to the old pod though
Joe & his joevengers will come up with any narrative to make themselves feel better about the tragic downgrade in quality of this podcast. Now all of a sudden the bigger podcast means it’s better, coming from the guy who preached quality over quantity for years 😂😂😂
I agree that the show is bigger now. Why even debate lol
I agree with Joe. That’s just me.
salute, it aint me tho lol
@@TheStop because of you I’m more into it than I ever was.
@@cashk100 salute!
You're only into it because you like drama.
@@Kingdakkar that part
Oh it is? They should try to go on tour again if the show is so popular, how can the smaller show consistently sell out shows & the “bigger” podcast can’t even sell out a new York venue 😂😂😂😂
That's the kicker right there. You're right...but if they do...I'm going sooo that's 1 ticket lol
The podcast is bigger & better than it’s ever been. This moo point that Danny and like minded old fans carry will always be true to them. But in reality the numbers are the numbers like Joe said, The Bionic 6’s impact will last generations once it’s said and done. Rory and Mal will always be the appetizer, never the main course, sorry Danny.
Yeah this is 100 percent joe burner UA-cam channel lol 😂
@@cookiemonster64 and this is definitely Danny’s burner 😂
Danny how can you say that he could be manipulating the numbers but don’t accuse anyone else of juking their numbers? UA-cam and Spotify numbers etc can be juked. But you question the independent man because you can’t accept that the new podcast iteration is bigger than the old one
Probably is. But i still will take the Rory and Mal days. This iteration is good too. Just ain’t fucking with the old pod crew
Different times, Different era. I like both eras but the Rory n Mal era was the best cuz niggas was more blunt but i like the kinda mature pod also. Anywho. Danny the Goat!!!!
I didn't love the rory mal pod. I do like this version better. Patreon wouldnt be a thing for me in the past
You’re right. I saw the live show in Dallas and it was great! They had another scheduled here for 2020 but, ya know, Covid. The old pod was Goated.
The show with R&M was 100 times better. The random jokes on each other. The laughs from the kitchen with savon and remy thay they are trying to recreate with corey but it sounds forced. Joe knows that the show was better with them but his ego wont let hin say hit.
I’ll put it like this when the podcast first broke up I was hoping that they would reunite for like the first month or two and then after that I quickly forgot about Rory and Mal.
This is a wild take from you Danny. It is very clear that the podcast is bigger now than that podcast was. By numbers, by status, by the conversation they spark, etc.
As far as chemistry is concerned, I really feel like it’s the same exact chemistry because Joe Budden is the same. Rory was making some of the backhanded comments concerning the business of the pod just like flip does today and Joe responds even better today than he did back then. Mall and Joe shared the same kind of stories that Ish and Joe share now and the only difference I could see is that there was more comedy back then. The three of them were funnier than the six but that doesn’t mean it was a better podcast. It just means that it was funnier.
It’s bigger and better now, keep in mind bigger based on facts better based on opinions.
🧢 🧢 🧢
@@jamiemoore1989 that’s pretty funny 😂😂😂. I don’t sound like Joe
5:58 Better watch Joe!! You know he ain’t too good with numbers. #BadAccounting
“Rory and Mal made Joe more palatable”
This is SPOT ON. The leverage Joe has on them keeps the show from feeling like homies just choppin it up. Not to mention even his own fanbase doesn’t see him as some type of boss. I’m willing to bet he has nowhere near the amount of money he acts like he has and he’s just trying to keep up with appearances.
The new pod dope. I like it better, some of the last PODs from the original cast were getting stale. I still watched it everyday, but would fast forward when I can see them trying too hard. The last two episodes of the POD have been fire 🔥
It’s as simple as this,
R&M left the show 3 years ago and we’re still speaking about them being on the show 😂
People that speak about Million dollaz worth of Game doesn’t talk about when Devin or Don’t call me white girl was on the show because they were able to create a successful lane for themselves, I don’t think Joe was able to do that as of now
@@telldetruth9259 if theres a huge "yall" its for a reason dude
@@telldetruth9259 y'all is the entire audience lol nobody has stopped talking about it. even Joe himself.
Anybody remember “afterthoughts “??
Yup!
Joe Rory & Mal was a wayyyyyyy better podcast than this lil Bionic Six shit
The numbers parallel doesn't make sense cause the subs were built off the Rory and Mal era
Any numbers afterwards are off the foundation , not on their own
The old pod is 10 thousand times better I was watching LOADED CLIPS Joe budden greatest moments and allllll of them moments poops on todays pod. I love the mature content we are getting now and I guess it isn’t as jokey jokey joke for 2 and a half hours but the old crew didn’t always joke around. When they did that’s what made the shit gold. Cuz all of em got it lol from Rory being jobless, Joe being a snob, and mal just being too cool for school. Todays pod is a good listen but nothing like the old ones. Much love to all Og and new Jbp fans juheard
Danny from the cap. Always capping 🛑
2:20 spitting
It was definitely bigger with Rory and Mal. Joe also came off as more authentic back then.
Can’t believe it’s been almost 3 years, that’s crazy.
Pod is way better now. Ish is the Star he speaks truth unlike Rory and Mal. Who pander to industry friends.
whagt are your thoughts on mood musik? Is it better than Illmatic?
Nah, that shits a Frisbee. I'd rather cop Will Smith's 'Willinium"
@@TheStop which mood music?
You asking an egomaniac to admit something was better with two people he now hates. Only Budden stans think 6 mics of mid is better than R&M
You should've asked why he hasn't taken this newer, better cast on tour yet.
@@ZYaKnoe249 I’m a fan of the jbp. Alll I’m saying is the product isn’t the same. I don’t care about numbers
danny u make a living off of this iteration of the pod not the other
thats only cause i started after rnm left but i still do a lot of rnm videos
*The hardest working Joe Budden fan in show business* 🫡
This is actually a good point Danny, the impact was definitely bigger…