Unpopular opinion: The Lone Ranger is a very good and underrated Western. Even Tarantino loved this movie and I can see why. It's too bad that so many other critics and moviegoers couldnt. I actually felt like cheering when that Lone Ranger theme started playing.
I’ve been wanting an incredible modern day western that doesn’t take itself too seriously.. I so wanted this movie to be good… and it’s decent but definitely not great 🫤 Sadly Back to the Future 3 is way better 🤭
I know I sound like a jerk, my sincere apologies. But that is the finale of "the William Tell overture" written in like 1820. Disney has been using it for dang near a century, but it is not a theme song for the lone Ranger. Most people would probably recognize 3 out of 4 parts of the symphony from Disney stuff.That part is specifically called " march of the Swiss soldiers"
I'll be honest. I really liked this movie. Its a stylish, imaginative, funny, action adventure that the whole family can enjoy, and there are precious few movies you can say that about these days. Its not perfect, but neither is it anywhere near as bad as its industry reputation would have you believe. I think legends build up around some movies like this, such that if you wish to be considered a movie aficionado, you're supposed not to like it. All I can say is that I watched it with a bunch of kids who knew nothing about its reputation, or its troubled production, and we all loved it.
O yes. You need a well tuned brain to keep up, and enjoy movies like that. The ability to differentiate between fantasy, fiction and historical representations
I certainly agree about John Carter and Treasure Planet. Treasure Planet was terrific because it stuck to the original story, but gave it that wonderful science fiction/fantasy vibe that I just love. Hard science fiction s terrific, but the impossible story contrast of putting wooden sailing ships in outer space and things like that is something that has always stirred my blood. I have noticed something about John Carter. People who have *read the book* tend to like the movie. People who haven't, don't. Make of that what you will. I understand iit was poorly marketed. I don't know anything about marketing. The instant I saw the words John Carter in a movie trailer, I was hooked.
It's ironic how Disney bombed with The Lone Ranger that wasn't a part of big cinematic IP in 2013, and 10 years later Disney bombed with several movies that WERE a part of big cinematic IPs in 2023 (Indy 5, The Marvels, Ant-Man, etc.) which the studio relied on for many years.
John Ford just whispered in my ear "It's an F'n Western! The beauty of making a Western, is that a modest budget doesn't compromise the story...you're in the middle of no where."
Hire and fly in a yo-yo champ to teach an actor how to do a trick. Later use a close-up of the trick, making it so it could have been done by the yo-yo champ to begin with.
Saw it on DVD a while back. I don’t think it’s the worst movie ever made, nor a masterpiece. But it is one of the more visually lavish westerns I’ve seen, and some of those train sequences are impressive. It certainly has some visual ambition at least.
TLR was a comic when i was a kid. Like a human, lucky luke. All comic for kids. So is the movie, kind of. For the kids all grown up. Do understand many not liked it. They was not kids 70-90s That i think was its downfall
Wow, based on the images shown in this recap, this movie looks really well shot, edited, stunts look great and it looks packed with great action. On my list.
It’s ok. Coming from a simple man who’s been craving a good western that doesn’t take itself too seriously for a loooong time. Sadly Back to the Future 3 is way better 🫤
The whole final 40 minutes are something of really phenomenal and fun. Excellent stunts and action sequences. Even some ok movies have some great moments like that train chase
If people are really hating this movie then I really don’t know why. This movie was epic. It had so many good action sequences and I swear I felt like I was watching a Red Dead Redemption movie. We don’t get many western movies like this often and it’s honestly a real shame because there’s so many interesting things about the Wild West and we have not had any movies that take place in that time period these days. I’m sure I’m probably missing the point of why people hate this movie but whatever the reason is it is not going to change my opinion about this movie.
The budget situation doomed this movie, but I think casting Johnny Depp was a major misstep. The Jack Sparrow character works as a flamboyant pirate with relatively low stakes. As a guilt-ridden Native American? No. Had this movie come out a few years later the drama about Depp's and Hammer's personal behavior unrelated to the film would have derailed it even worse.
I mostly liked this movie, but thought Johnny Depp was playing Jack Sparrows Indian cousin. And a lot of people were upset that Tonto should have been played by a native American
Why did he have a dead bird on his head? I know it matched that painting, but does the public know that? He just looked like a dude with a dead crow sitting on his head. Or at least I hope it was dead. His makeup looked as if it had melted.
So I didn’t come out of this movie saying “Gosh, I’d liked it better if it hadn’t gone over budget”. The silly story line, making the Lone Ranger a goofball made it bad. Seemed there was a stretch back then to remake shows/movies as parodies. Charlie’s Angels, Starsky & Hutch (RIP David Soul), CHIPS which were originally a bit campy but not buffoonery. The Lone Ranger and Tonto were crime fighters with a light touch of humor. But the ‘creatives’ either didn’t watch and/or understand that concept and paired with the need to keep milking the Pirates theme, and created this mess. The visuals were great. Everything you’d like to see in a Western. It was a failure of writing, vision, and understanding of the characters. A good story carries across generations and could have been a great way to retell an old tale. So sad it was a miss.
They tried to make the Lone Ranger like Will Smith’s Wild, Wild, West. I didn’t think Lone Ranger was bad, just very campy. Maybe people expected a serious Lone Ranger of the past and not camp.
They were trying to make this too much like the Pirates of the Caribbean films if anything. It’s a shame we’ll never see something as good as The Mask of Zorro again.
@@gijanetexas5770 The success of Pirates of the Caribbean is all to blame for this failure. People tend to forget how initially ill received Depp’s performance was while they were filming the first movie. It was defying the conventions of a swashbuckling movie like The Mask of Zorro and it was only received well because it differed itself from what was expected. After three more Pirates films over the course of a decade of Depp doing the same thing over and over, it grew stale and tired. Depp’s Tonto is just a Native American variation on that theme with way too much weirdness and hardly any nobility. The best part of the film was the climax set to the William Tell Overture, the only time it played to its source material rather than make fun of it.
I noticed how many scenes could have been combined, how often certain beats are repeated, and how we have to wait till we get the Lone Ranger. Did we even need the framing device? Then the villain's emasculation is not set up. The tone is Wild Wuld West then it is a harrowing dark adventure.
I feel like Armie Hammer might have bitten off more than he could chew with this role. A lot of times these big budget films have a way of cannibalizing themselves. Hammer really chewed the scenery he was in but I feel like the marketing was all bark and no bite. No wonder people got fed up with the movie. A box office loss like that is tough to swallow. It’s easy to choke.
I remember when my now ex girlfriend and I saw this in theaters and we both hated it and for what it’s worth it was her idea to see it and I warned about it beforehand
An amazing effort destined to suffer the same fate as "The Phantom" "John Carter" and "The Shadow". Studios need to reacquaint their audience with the value of these generational IPs before they are released. I miss the TV specials they used to produce back in the day before they became "Special Features" on videodiscs.
I feel like Armie Hammer might have bitten off more than he could chew with this role. A lot of times these big budget films have a way of cannibalizing themselves. Hammer really chewed the scenery he was in but I feel like the marketing was all bark and no bite. No wonder people got fed up with the movie. A box office loss like that is tough to swallow. It’s easy to choke.
I stayed away because of the reviews but seeing these clips and the amount of effort that went in to stunts, I think I'll give it a watch :) While taken out of context, the clips looks incredibly well shot.
I think that the critics were too kind - this is one of the tonally-inconsistent and outright annoying movies I've ever had the misfortune to have watched.
The 2013 Lone Ranger movie makes the 1980 Lone Ranger movie look good. Johnny Depp's Tonto set back Native American relations over a century. At least Jay Silverheels was an actual native American, and so was Michael Horse from the 1980 movie. Famed Far Side gag: The Lone Ranger, long since retired, makes an unpleasant discovery. The aged Ranger is reviewing a "Apache-English dictionary." And he says, "Oh, HERE it is! 'Kemo Sabe. Apache expression for a horse's rear end.' WHAT THE HEY?!! Always loved that cartoon.
People don’t like over the top westerns. The heart of all good westerns is simplicity. Not black and white or one demential stories or characters, but the simple elegance in which it is told.
When I watched this film I remember thinking it was too long and a bit unfocused, like it was several different Lone Ranger films all jumbled together. I enjoyed it but it felt like work watching it.
My family and I absolutely LOVE this movie. It’s a fast joy ride and exactly what I want when going to the theater. Will always have a special place in my heart
I never saw the movie. When the pre-publicity came out, I saw Depp walking around with a chicken on his head, and he had been made an honorary Indian by some tribe. I knew this film was going to be epic. And it was.
I am an American Indian and I loved Depp's performance, I could not stop laughing. When The Lone Ranger theme started playing I felt chills and was brought back to my childhood. Great movie!
I enjoyed the movie because of the action scenes and Johnny Depp is a really great actor; I just do not see Depp as the correct choice as Tonto. If you watch the original show compared to the movie then the tone of the movie changes. If you look at Zorro with Banderas and compare it to the original shows, then the tone of the movie is the same. The problems I think that really caused the movie to bomb is the fact that the Lone Ranger demographic is much older, and the fact western movies are a thing of the past, but Disney wanted to bring back that genre by using Depp because of his popularity and the fact Depp starred in Rango. In fact, Rango is considered a western flick also with Johnny Depp. To me the Lone Ranger felt like Disney was trying to make a live action Rango but as a Pirates of the Caribbean movie without understanding the show in the 1st place.
Lone Ranger movie from thirty years early with Christopher Lloyd as villain is a much better film than this. It treats character as a legend & not a joke.
Everything you technically described, and wow was this review technical, I appreciate the movie even more, now i kinda like it more than i did and i did like this movie.
I don't get it. This movie was awesome! The action, set locations, acting, costume design, were all top notch. I thought it was a thrilling ride in the old west.
Given that a train was playing, a major plot point, part of me is curious if Disney may have had a plan to restructure big thunder mountain railroad into a lone ranger ride if this movie had been more successful. Something that I do disagree about with this video is that Hammer and Depp were ostracized. They may have been, but it had nothing to do with this movie. In fact, since he’s kind of been exonerated, Depp could get a resurgence .
The Long Ranger is one of Disney's best films at the time personally.. and I think it was just misunderstood. It's meant to be a fun Western Dime Novel style ride, paying homage to old westerns before they became serious. This is on a long list of hidden gems on Disney's Library that I think got either abandoned by Disney, dumped on by critics, so ignored by audiences. Remember back then when people took critics' opinions seriously? Mean I'm glad the world changed in that respect. I find it funny that i liked most of the films Disney released around this time. The Long Ranger, John Carter and Oz the Great and Powerful, Saving Mr Banks are among my favorite films on Disney's Library, and I place them far higher than their animated features, and other live action films including Marvel Movies.
I had no idea how much effort was put into this film. Weirdly this video actually makes me want to see it. It looks like something I’d enjoy at least once
I honestly still don't understand why this movie was hated so much, I loved it when I washed it on the first time and I loved it when I was it recently, it's not a perfect movie of course but it is not a terrible movie either
Jerry Bruckheimer, he allows directors to do exactly what they want, which is why so most of them are in for a rude awakening once they leave, with one notoriously infamous exception.
great movie, non-stop entertainment; even the modern day boy with old Tonto worked... the viewing public did not pay for the high budget so there is nothing to complain about...
I remember already starting to tune out five minutes into the movie. That whole device of making the movie a whole flashback sequence story told by old Tonto’s ghost to some kid at an amusement park really didn’t work for me.
They need to stop making movies about characters from 120 years ago... Tarzan, Zorro, Lone Ranger, John Carter etc. Their time has well and truly passed.
Let's be real here...with Marvels only making 200 million and the massive costs Disney put into it and Indy 5 there is no way this is the biggest loser.
I enjoyed the film but it wasn't really my thing. I remember thinking at the time it was probably a decade too late to be hitting any kind of nostalgia for the character. It was leaning heavily into Depp's box office appeal, but big budget westerns haven't been a thing except maybe during the genre's peak and even that's questionable. It was doomed from the start.
Gore Verbinski really took the worst of it from this film. All that good will from Rango completely flushed. I remember Cure for Wellness getting mostly ignored.
Ive watched every Johnny movie in cinema. I love this movie. What happened is what always happens. Ppl dont care about him unless he's Jack Sparrow. Or hes in a court battle and then their precious Jack Sparrow actor is under attack, but then after theyre not gonna watch any of his movies yet again
I hope to see a new Gore Verbinski action-adventure film. His Pirates films are one of my favorite trilogies despite some of its issues. Rango is one of the best-animated films of the last 20 years and The Lone Ranger is a damn good film, too. It's understandable if Gore never wants to touch the genre again. I wish he was able to get his Bioshock film made.
Yet this review fails to mention a significant factor that deterred many audiences from attending... cultural appropriation (which was a subject that had come into the public domain at that time) i.e. the portrayal of a Native American character by a white guy, using, essentially black face.
I personally can't say anything about anything as a native American, but I can say that it would be Ok imo if a white guy plays a native American IF only that they had a Native American for some expert and experience, being authentic is important, but secondary method, while less authentic, is better than nothing… especially if they are to have an authentic tribe, unless they made up a tribe(somewhat like "King Of The Hill") but I'm still with you that authentic actors that are Native Americans are the better method…
@@jescis Your comment reminded me of something that apparently happened on the TV show Star Trek Voyager. One of the main characters was supposed to be native American but was played by a Mexican actor. The producers hired a specialist with expertise in native American history and culture (who wasn't native American himself, who turned out to be a complete fraud which meant so many of the old Native American tropes made their way into the programme, which insensed the actor Robert Beltran who played the character Chakotay as well as the producers. I think in the case of Native Americans it's more about the historical depiction of them in Hollywood which was being protested as far back as the 1970s, made very public by Sacheen Littlefeather's speech when Brando turned down his Academy Award in protest.
@@desoliver9712 WOW 😳😳 I didn't know about that!! But I think we need to be sure to not make that mistake again, they need to make sure that person is legit and not a fraud as they did in Voyager… nothing is as easy as it seems it SHOULD be!! 🤔🤔😭😭
A friend and I went into this movie when it came out and we had really low expectations due to the many negative reviews. We wholeheartedly enjoyed the movie and thought it was much, much better than many of the sequels of Pirates of the Caribbean.
Hay! I liked John Carter! Anyway, as much of a MCU girl as I am, Disney deserves SERIOUS shade for turning their back on Johnny Depp when the whole AH fiasco started, BEFORE they found out if he was guilty or not. The irony is that with Disney's track record, that was a HUGE example of the pot calling the kettle black. 🤬🙄🤦♀️
I enjoyed the film. It was fun and entertaining, which a film should be. My only issue was the inclusion of The Lone Ranger theme during the train chase. It was completely out of place.
The action scenes with the trains are really wonderful. Johnny Depp plays a fun part along with Helena Bonham Carter. If they not filmed about 45 minutes or even an hour of the rest of the film, this would have been a winner.
I remember watching this film when it came out in theaters. It was entertaining and a little unrealistic at times. But I can see how the film budget dwarfed ticket sales making this film a flop at the end.
Johnny Depp wasn't ostracized at all. He's had steady work in both huge franchises (Fantastic Beasts) and smaller films. In fact, both he and Armie worked steadily after this film; the only reason Armie fell off the map was because of his sexual assault allegations, which had nothing to do with his role as the Lone Ranger.
The Lone Ranger movie looked chaotic and just plain bad to me in the trailers and I didn't waste my time seeing it. I'm not always right in judging a movie by the trailers, but I got this right when I predicted it would be a critical bomb. It seems that Disney has learned zero lessons from this disaster.
The Lone Ranger would probably do better now than it did in 2013 considering the decline in the blockbuster/special effect focus sphere in recent years. It was far from a great film but the money was clearly up on screen and the final train chase was rollicking, old-fashioned fun.
Unpopular opinion: The Lone Ranger is a very good and underrated Western.
Even Tarantino loved this movie and I can see why. It's too bad that so many other critics and moviegoers couldnt.
I actually felt like cheering when that Lone Ranger theme started playing.
The problem is, anyone can be a critic. I stay off Rotten Tomato. They don't represent me.
I’ve been wanting an incredible modern day western that doesn’t take itself too seriously.. I so wanted this movie to be good… and it’s decent but definitely not great 🫤 Sadly Back to the Future 3 is way better 🤭
I watch this movie about once a year, along with Strictly Ballroom, The Crow, Quick and the Dead, among others. Some movies just aren't for everyone.
That is not an unpopular opinion among the viewers, just the wannabe critics. Love this movie, the cheesey parts of it just makes it better
I really liked the movie as well
I will say the climax on the train was the best part of the movie. The stunts, fights, and horse riding to the Lone Ranger theme was great.
Totally agree. The rest of the movie was trash
@@stevezilla1961 The movie was meh
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I also liked it....Johnny Depp and Arnie Hammer played their parts well
I know I sound like a jerk, my sincere apologies. But that is the finale of "the William Tell overture" written in like 1820. Disney has been using it for dang near a century, but it is not a theme song for the lone Ranger. Most people would probably recognize 3 out of 4 parts of the symphony from Disney stuff.That part is specifically called " march of the Swiss soldiers"
I'll be honest. I really liked this movie. Its a stylish, imaginative, funny, action adventure that the whole family can enjoy, and there are precious few movies you can say that about these days. Its not perfect, but neither is it anywhere near as bad as its industry reputation would have you believe. I think legends build up around some movies like this, such that if you wish to be considered a movie aficionado, you're supposed not to like it. All I can say is that I watched it with a bunch of kids who knew nothing about its reputation, or its troubled production, and we all loved it.
Unpopulair oppinion: I enjoyed this movie a lot and wanted another one
Box office obliterated continuations.
You misspelled unpopular and opinion just so you know
@@jevindayUnfortunate errors ruined points.
Me too.
O yes. You need a well tuned brain to keep up, and enjoy movies like that.
The ability to differentiate between fantasy, fiction and historical representations
It’s not that bad. The final train chase was really good.
The best part of the movie.
If you can’t make Clayton Moore Lone Ranger fans happy with the movie then it is HORSESHIT! The movie is HORSE SHIT! I am a Clayton Moore fan!
My dad worked at The Village Tinsmith company and they provided the cantines, lamps, lanterns, and other tin items for the movie.
Any idea of the town is still standing?
John Carter, Atlantis The Lost Empire and Treasure Planet are underrated
Warlords of Mars, that's all they had to do, but no! Let's give it a real boring tittle...this over the top fantasy.
Sure is
The Black Hole was a Disney film that vastly under performed. ⬇️
@@DavidLLambertmobile 💯
I certainly agree about John Carter and Treasure Planet. Treasure Planet was terrific because it stuck to the original story, but gave it that wonderful science fiction/fantasy vibe that I just love. Hard science fiction s terrific, but the impossible story contrast of putting wooden sailing ships in outer space and things like that is something that has always stirred my blood.
I have noticed something about John Carter. People who have *read the book* tend to like the movie. People who haven't, don't. Make of that what you will. I understand iit was poorly marketed. I don't know anything about marketing. The instant I saw the words John Carter in a movie trailer, I was hooked.
It's ironic how Disney bombed with The Lone Ranger that wasn't a part of big cinematic IP in 2013, and 10 years later Disney bombed with several movies that WERE a part of big cinematic IPs in 2023 (Indy 5, The Marvels, Ant-Man, etc.) which the studio relied on for many years.
John Ford just whispered in my ear "It's an F'n Western! The beauty of making a Western, is that a modest budget doesn't compromise the story...you're in the middle of no where."
WTF happened to Gore Verbinski?
This movie could not decide if it was a comedy or a drama. It relied too heavily on Depp being a native Jack Sparrow
Hire and fly in a yo-yo champ to teach an actor how to do a trick. Later use a close-up of the trick, making it so it could have been done by the yo-yo champ to begin with.
Saw it on DVD a while back. I don’t think it’s the worst movie ever made, nor a masterpiece. But it is one of the more visually lavish westerns I’ve seen, and some of those train sequences are impressive. It certainly has some visual ambition at least.
TLR was a comic when i was a kid. Like a human, lucky luke. All comic for kids.
So is the movie, kind of. For the kids all grown up.
Do understand many not liked it. They was not kids 70-90s
That i think was its downfall
Wow, based on the images shown in this recap, this movie looks really well shot, edited, stunts look great and it looks packed with great action. On my list.
It's bloated and a bit too long, but a ton of fun if you don't mind a long movie. I absolutely loved it. Hope you do, too.
This a well known fact, The Lobe Ranger is not only underrrated but it’s actually good.
It’s ok. Coming from a simple man who’s been craving a good western that doesn’t take itself too seriously for a loooong time. Sadly Back to the Future 3 is way better 🫤
The whole final 40 minutes are something of really phenomenal and fun. Excellent stunts and action sequences. Even some ok movies have some great moments like that train chase
If people are really hating this movie then I really don’t know why. This movie was epic. It had so many good action sequences and I swear I felt like I was watching a Red Dead Redemption movie. We don’t get many western movies like this often and it’s honestly a real shame because there’s so many interesting things about the Wild West and we have not had any movies that take place in that time period these days. I’m sure I’m probably missing the point of why people hate this movie but whatever the reason is it is not going to change my opinion about this movie.
The budget situation doomed this movie, but I think casting Johnny Depp was a major misstep. The Jack Sparrow character works as a flamboyant pirate with relatively low stakes. As a guilt-ridden Native American? No.
Had this movie come out a few years later the drama about Depp's and Hammer's personal behavior unrelated to the film would have derailed it even worse.
I mostly liked this movie, but thought Johnny Depp was playing Jack Sparrows Indian cousin. And a lot of people were upset that Tonto should have been played by a native American
Why did he have a dead bird on his head? I know it matched that painting, but does the public know that? He just looked like a dude with a dead crow sitting on his head. Or at least I hope it was dead. His makeup looked as if it had melted.
Doug Walker in his Disneycember review said it best: “It's just trying to Pirates of The Caribbean in the Wild West.”
Ironically, we already had one of those before: Wild Wild West
The 1981 Lone Ranger western was MUCH better than the Depp, Hammer movie. And that film was a 🦃.
It would have been even more like PotC in the Wild if they did introduce more of the supernatural element
@@freemantle85 💯
Who cares what some bald cuck who does sketches and says the plot of the movie confusing it with a real review (you know, what a critic does) says?
Excellent timing on this upload,,for me anyways, I just watched this less than 24 hours ago .
I enjoyed it more than I thought I would.
I appreciate a director who does practical over cgi
Feeling daring today, aren’t we?
So I didn’t come out of this movie saying “Gosh, I’d liked it better if it hadn’t gone over budget”. The silly story line, making the Lone Ranger a goofball made it bad. Seemed there was a stretch back then to remake shows/movies as parodies. Charlie’s Angels, Starsky & Hutch (RIP David Soul), CHIPS which were originally a bit campy but not buffoonery. The Lone Ranger and Tonto were
crime fighters with a light touch of humor. But the ‘creatives’ either didn’t watch and/or understand that concept and paired with the need to keep milking the Pirates theme, and created this mess. The visuals were great. Everything you’d like to see in a Western. It was a failure of writing, vision, and understanding of the characters. A good story carries across generations and could have been a great way to retell an old tale. So sad it was a miss.
These movies would do much better if they stayed true to the characters.
1:25 SCATHERING?!? do you mean Scathing?
They tried to make the Lone Ranger like Will Smith’s Wild, Wild, West. I didn’t think Lone Ranger was bad, just very campy. Maybe people expected a serious Lone Ranger of the past and not camp.
They were trying to make this too much like the Pirates of the Caribbean films if anything. It’s a shame we’ll never see something as good as The Mask of Zorro again.
@@kamdan2011 They tried to use a movie that appeals to older people appealing to younger people. But it didn’t work.
@@gijanetexas5770 The success of Pirates of the Caribbean is all to blame for this failure. People tend to forget how initially ill received Depp’s performance was while they were filming the first movie. It was defying the conventions of a swashbuckling movie like The Mask of Zorro and it was only received well because it differed itself from what was expected. After three more Pirates films over the course of a decade of Depp doing the same thing over and over, it grew stale and tired. Depp’s Tonto is just a Native American variation on that theme with way too much weirdness and hardly any nobility. The best part of the film was the climax set to the William Tell Overture, the only time it played to its source material rather than make fun of it.
Best Lone Ranger adaptation was called Airheads. There were 3 of them.
I noticed how many scenes could have been combined, how often certain beats are repeated, and how we have to wait till we get the Lone Ranger. Did we even need the framing device? Then the villain's emasculation is not set up. The tone is Wild Wuld West then it is a harrowing dark adventure.
Ironically, didn't Johnny Depp perform a native blessing at the start of the shoot, to bring the production good luck?
Turns out that this lone ranger really wanted to eat tonto. 😹😹😹
I feel like Armie Hammer might have bitten off more than he could chew with this role. A lot of times these big budget films have a way of cannibalizing themselves. Hammer really chewed the scenery he was in but I feel like the marketing was all bark and no bite. No wonder people got fed up with the movie. A box office loss like that is tough to swallow. It’s easy to choke.
Whatever happened to the band The Lone Rangers is what. I wanna know
I remember when my now ex girlfriend and I saw this in theaters and we both hated it and for what it’s worth it was her idea to see it and I warned about it beforehand
Great movie!! Watched it two times in theatres and luckily i have it on bluray. Im happy to read in the comments that more people love this movie
Back to the Future 3 is way better 🫤
I loved John Carter & The Lone Ranger. Thought those were some of the better ones Disney put out lately.
An amazing effort destined to suffer the same fate as "The Phantom" "John Carter" and "The Shadow". Studios need to reacquaint their audience with the value of these generational IPs before they are released. I miss the TV specials they used to produce back in the day before they became "Special Features" on videodiscs.
I feel like Armie Hammer might have bitten off more than he could chew with this role. A lot of times these big budget films have a way of cannibalizing themselves. Hammer really chewed the scenery he was in but I feel like the marketing was all bark and no bite. No wonder people got fed up with the movie. A box office loss like that is tough to swallow. It’s easy to choke.
I stayed away because of the reviews but seeing these clips and the amount of effort that went in to stunts, I think I'll give it a watch :) While taken out of context, the clips looks incredibly well shot.
Even with all the negative publicity. I thought this movie was actually quite enjoyable from an entertainment point of view.
"...And how obviously it borrowed from other westerns." No kidding; you mean like 'Back to the Future III', which is ALL OVER the train-sequence?! XD
I think that the critics were too kind - this is one of the tonally-inconsistent and outright annoying movies I've ever had the misfortune to have watched.
Just by your woke take I’m guessing you rely heavily on ever changing pronouns in your bio
@@spittinvenom9843"Everything I don't like is woke!": A guide to basic dickheads
The 2013 Lone Ranger movie makes the 1980 Lone Ranger movie look good. Johnny Depp's Tonto set back Native American relations over a century. At least Jay Silverheels was an actual native American, and so was Michael Horse from the 1980 movie.
Famed Far Side gag:
The Lone Ranger, long since retired, makes an unpleasant discovery. The aged Ranger is reviewing a "Apache-English dictionary." And he says, "Oh, HERE it is! 'Kemo Sabe. Apache expression for a horse's rear end.' WHAT THE HEY?!!
Always loved that cartoon.
People don’t like over the top westerns. The heart of all good westerns is simplicity. Not black and white or one demential stories or characters, but the simple elegance in which it is told.
Never saw this & probably won't ever will
You don't miss much. The film was way too Depp Tonto heavy. The title is The Lone Ranger! 🤠
The fact the went full Blazing Saddles for sets is impressive. Somehow the making of is a better movie than the actual film
I liked it. (And this is a great movie info channel) yo yo scene is the best 1billion ever spent
When I watched this film I remember thinking it was too long and a bit unfocused, like it was several different Lone Ranger films all jumbled together. I enjoyed it but it felt like work watching it.
My family and I absolutely LOVE this movie. It’s a fast joy ride and exactly what I want when going to the theater. Will always have a special place in my heart
9:04 what does depp say?
I never saw the movie. When the pre-publicity came out, I saw Depp walking around with a chicken on his head, and he had been made an honorary Indian by some tribe. I knew this film was going to be epic. And it was.
I am an American Indian and I loved Depp's performance, I could not stop laughing. When The Lone Ranger theme started playing I felt chills and was brought back to my childhood. Great movie!
I enjoyed the movie because of the action scenes and Johnny Depp is a really great actor; I just do not see Depp as the correct choice as Tonto. If you watch the original show compared to the movie then the tone of the movie changes. If you look at Zorro with Banderas and compare it to the original shows, then the tone of the movie is the same. The problems I think that really caused the movie to bomb is the fact that the Lone Ranger demographic is much older, and the fact western movies are a thing of the past, but Disney wanted to bring back that genre by using Depp because of his popularity and the fact Depp starred in Rango. In fact, Rango is considered a western flick also with Johnny Depp. To me the Lone Ranger felt like Disney was trying to make a live action Rango but as a Pirates of the Caribbean movie without understanding the show in the 1st place.
Honestly, in regards to his controversial casting as tonto, I never thought depp looked white
Armie Hammer’s casting already has aged like milk
I enjoyed this movie, and my grandpa went to see it in theaters.
00:22 *RESONATE* Not resignate..
Lone Ranger movie from thirty years early with Christopher Lloyd as villain is a much better film than this. It treats character as a legend & not a joke.
MAN, how I wanted this one to be the next 'Mask of Zorro'... =(
Same 🫤
@@SmackDab Thanks! Glad to know I'm not the only fan! =)
@@BuckarooBanzai84 mask of zorro is absolutely phenomenal ✊
@@SmackDab Here-here! =)
Everything you technically described, and wow was this review technical, I appreciate the movie even more, now i kinda like it more than i did and i did like this movie.
I don't get it. This movie was awesome! The action, set locations, acting, costume design, were all top notch. I thought it was a thrilling ride in the old west.
Given that a train was playing, a major plot point, part of me is curious if Disney may have had a plan to restructure big thunder mountain railroad into a lone ranger ride if this movie had been more successful.
Something that I do disagree about with this video is that Hammer and Depp were ostracized. They may have been, but it had nothing to do with this movie. In fact, since he’s kind of been exonerated, Depp could get a resurgence .
They didn't say anything about them being ostracized because of this movie. They just said that they were ostracized now.
@@ScooterinAB Hammer definitely, but Depp is rebounding. It didn’t say it was because of this movie , but it seemed to imply .
Watched the movie three times, it did get more entertaining each time for me
The Long Ranger is one of Disney's best films at the time personally.. and I think it was just misunderstood. It's meant to be a fun Western Dime Novel style ride, paying homage to old westerns before they became serious. This is on a long list of hidden gems on Disney's Library that I think got either abandoned by Disney, dumped on by critics, so ignored by audiences. Remember back then when people took critics' opinions seriously? Mean I'm glad the world changed in that respect.
I find it funny that i liked most of the films Disney released around this time. The Long Ranger, John Carter and Oz the Great and Powerful, Saving Mr Banks are among my favorite films on Disney's Library, and I place them far higher than their animated features, and other live action films including Marvel Movies.
not a bad movie.
I had no idea how much effort was put into this film. Weirdly this video actually makes me want to see it. It looks like something I’d enjoy at least once
Bojan Bazelli's cinematography was still great
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I didn't watch it, and was very much on the fence about it.
I saw it with my friend, we are 50s males. 🍿 The Disney film had many problems, flaws.
William fichtner transformation is amazing
I honestly still don't understand why this movie was hated so much, I loved it when I washed it on the first time and I loved it when I was it recently, it's not a perfect movie of course but it is not a terrible movie either
The controversy surrounding Hammer certainly didn't help.
A hill I will die on, is there is a very very fun 100 minute movie somewhere in the Lone Ranger movie.
Long films suffer in the second act, it's truly hard to be interesting throughout.
I like your style
@@SmackDabInteresting approval to serve.
1:27 you said scathering instead of scathing! Ooooo, one mess up in a thousand videos
Idk who produced this movie, but there are so many clear reasons why the budget got out of control.
Jerry Bruckheimer, he allows directors to do exactly what they want, which is why so most of them are in for a rude awakening once they leave, with one notoriously infamous exception.
Disney is in critical condition right now.
great movie, non-stop entertainment; even the modern day boy with old Tonto worked... the viewing public did not pay for the high budget so there is nothing to complain about...
I remember already starting to tune out five minutes into the movie. That whole device of making the movie a whole flashback sequence story told by old Tonto’s ghost to some kid at an amusement park really didn’t work for me.
They need to stop making movies about characters from 120 years ago... Tarzan, Zorro, Lone Ranger, John Carter etc. Their time has well and truly passed.
Let's be real here...with Marvels only making 200 million and the massive costs Disney put into it and Indy 5 there is no way this is the biggest loser.
I enjoyed the film but it wasn't really my thing. I remember thinking at the time it was probably a decade too late to be hitting any kind of nostalgia for the character. It was leaning heavily into Depp's box office appeal, but big budget westerns haven't been a thing except maybe during the genre's peak and even that's questionable. It was doomed from the start.
Gore Verbinski really took the worst of it from this film. All that good will from Rango completely flushed. I remember Cure for Wellness getting mostly ignored.
Ive watched every Johnny movie in cinema. I love this movie. What happened is what always happens. Ppl dont care about him unless he's Jack Sparrow. Or hes in a court battle and then their precious Jack Sparrow actor is under attack, but then after theyre not gonna watch any of his movies yet again
he's a white man playing a Native American with a dead bird on his head. maybe people thought that was insulting. yeah, a lot of people did.
@@perfectallycromulentthe kind of "people" who get offended at an actor FOR ACTING are not people worth give a shit about or listening to.
@@jway9097 ok racist.
John Carter was a good ass movie. changing the name is what made people not go see it.
Didn't help that Taylor Kitsch also has the exact same amount of talent as Ryan Reynolds, without his unexplainable, "charisma."
Lynn Collins was 🔥
@@matthewdaley746 Taylor Kitch did a good job and he was fabulous in Waco as David Koresh and was great in The Terminal List with Chris Pratt.
@@chasehedges6775An unexpected observation, unquestionably.
@@matthewdaley746 💯
I hope to see a new Gore Verbinski action-adventure film. His Pirates films are one of my favorite trilogies despite some of its issues. Rango is one of the best-animated films of the last 20 years and The Lone Ranger is a damn good film, too. It's understandable if Gore never wants to touch the genre again. I wish he was able to get his Bioshock film made.
9:25 mother nature really didn't want this movie done.
Yet this review fails to mention a significant factor that deterred many audiences from attending... cultural appropriation (which was a subject that had come into the public domain at that time) i.e. the portrayal of a Native American character by a white guy, using, essentially black face.
I personally can't say anything about anything as a native American, but I can say that it would be Ok imo if a white guy plays a native American IF only that they had a Native American for some expert and experience, being authentic is important, but secondary method, while less authentic, is better than nothing… especially if they are to have an authentic tribe, unless they made up a tribe(somewhat like "King Of The Hill") but I'm still with you that authentic actors that are Native Americans are the better method…
@@jescis Your comment reminded me of something that apparently happened on the TV show Star Trek Voyager. One of the main characters was supposed to be native American but was played by a Mexican actor. The producers hired a specialist with expertise in native American history and culture (who wasn't native American himself, who turned out to be a complete fraud which meant so many of the old Native American tropes made their way into the programme, which insensed the actor Robert Beltran who played the character Chakotay as well as the producers.
I think in the case of Native Americans it's more about the historical depiction of them in Hollywood which was being protested as far back as the 1970s, made very public by Sacheen Littlefeather's speech when Brando turned down his Academy Award in protest.
@@desoliver9712 WOW 😳😳 I didn't know about that!! But I think we need to be sure to not make that mistake again, they need to make sure that person is legit and not a fraud as they did in Voyager… nothing is as easy as it seems it SHOULD be!! 🤔🤔😭😭
A friend and I went into this movie when it came out and we had really low expectations due to the many negative reviews. We wholeheartedly enjoyed the movie and thought it was much, much better than many of the sequels of Pirates of the Caribbean.
One of the things I got a kick out of this is when Johnny's Tonto said Kemo Sabe meant "Wrong brother".😂😂😂
Does anyone know the name of the movie/show at 14:23?
Karate Girl - 1973
Hay! I liked John Carter!
Anyway, as much of a MCU girl as I am, Disney deserves SERIOUS shade for turning their back on Johnny Depp when the whole AH fiasco started, BEFORE they found out if he was guilty or not.
The irony is that with Disney's track record, that was a HUGE example of the pot calling the kettle black. 🤬🙄🤦♀️
I enjoyed the film. It was fun and entertaining, which a film should be. My only issue was the inclusion of The Lone Ranger theme during the train chase. It was completely out of place.
The action scenes with the trains are really wonderful. Johnny Depp plays a fun part along with Helena Bonham Carter. If they not filmed about 45 minutes or even an hour of the rest of the film, this would have been a winner.
I remember watching this film when it came out in theaters. It was entertaining and a little unrealistic at times. But I can see how the film budget dwarfed ticket sales making this film a flop at the end.
Doomed from the start when they cast a white guy as Tonto and a cannibal as the Lone Ranger
A box office flop
Budget $250M
Box office $ 260,5 M
I wish Verbinski came back with some good movies.
Didn't like Depp as Tonto
But thought movie was entertaining
Johnny Depp wasn't ostracized at all. He's had steady work in both huge franchises (Fantastic Beasts) and smaller films. In fact, both he and Armie worked steadily after this film; the only reason Armie fell off the map was because of his sexual assault allegations, which had nothing to do with his role as the Lone Ranger.
Wonder how it would have toured out if they kept the supernatural.
The Lone Ranger movie looked chaotic and just plain bad to me in the trailers and I didn't waste my time seeing it. I'm not always right in judging a movie by the trailers, but I got this right when I predicted it would be a critical bomb. It seems that Disney has learned zero lessons from this disaster.
The Lone Ranger would probably do better now than it did in 2013 considering the decline in the blockbuster/special effect focus sphere in recent years. It was far from a great film but the money was clearly up on screen and the final train chase was rollicking, old-fashioned fun.
I realized while watching this that it seemed like a lot of the hate was by people who didn't really see the movie. Is it worth watching?
I liked it.
The movie had potential but went off the rails. It became too silly.
-and they made the Ranger the goofy sidekick, which kind of misses the point...