Manila Mango were the first Mangos brought to America by Mexicans in the Manila Galleon. The Manila Galleon was the first Commercial Trade between America (Mexico) and Asia (Filipinas) in 1565.
Hello, Growing here in Pomona California. We've been developing our own lil fruit orchard and urban garden. After watching this video. We literally ran to get a Manila mango tree🥭 .
I plant manila mango only to topwork and graft onto it. I have one grafted with buttercream and just grafted orange sherbet 3 weeks ago and graft took. Last week I saw another manila at Lowes and to my surprise it had a graft on top of it. I couldn't resist and purchased it with plans to graft my (Rosie gold & Mallika Florida grown with turpentine rootstock that wants to fruit every year and haven't grown an inch since planting it last year)
Your the reason I got a Manila mango last year and my ilama also . I had fruit buds this year but the second cold spirt we had killed the flowers :( . Perhaps next year. I have it in a 100gallon pot I’m scared to put it in the ground in case I decide to move one day one day. I also have a 200 gallon pot for it if it gets to big for the 100 gallon lol , both are probably over kill.
That’s awesome. In most casts, the mango trees may actually produce flowers again, if the environment is favorable. Concerning the size of the containers, specific to the Manila mango, their tap root goes quite deep and will appreciate the additional soil, provided it’s well draining.
I planted a Manila in ground in 2012 and its about 12-14' tall now. I also have a Champagne and its going for a triple trunked shrub look at 6' tall after as many years or so. The Champagne I grew from seed. It's been bulletproof to cold or diseases. The rest of that yard is a 35 year old Subelle I planted..it always has fruit on it all year more or less. EZ grower.
That’s awesome. It’s interesting to see the difference in tree size and height given our variation in climate. For instance, my 3 year old Manila is reaching 11 feet tall for which I attribute the growth in the summer months. They seem to thrive in my super dry heat. Have you tried the Green Sapote or other sapodilla varieties. All of mine has been extremely cold hardy, though, not a big fan of my sun.
@@TropicalCentralValleyIts not just tall- but wide with a good sized trunk. 12 years does that even in the cool bay area. I don't know how you do it. Are you on some kind of raised area? drains frost? Keep up the good work.
Nice man I’m 21 and got my first home in socal and got some tress (one a Manila) just wanted to say never seen someone landscape the front part of the side area didn’t know it was allowed but not I got some ideas for myself 😂
That’s awesome. I don’t know about your city’s ordinance, but in my city, the homeowners are to take care of the stripe of land between the sidewalks and street.
@@TropicalCentralValley that's awesome that they grew quick and fruited. Hopefully I do a good job carrying for my potted mango trees. It's getting down into the lower 40's here in Long Beach. The Manila tree I bought today is inside. Do you think it will be able to handle the cold outside at being a very young tree? It's so rare that it gets this cold here.
It was 31° in my yard this morning, with the remaining weeks forecasted to be in the low to mid-30°’s. All of my mango, including unprotected seedlings in my yard are fine. In your case, to err on the side of caution, I would recommend sheltering it if possible.
I just got a kesar, alphonso and manila mango tree, my manila is looking a little sad, some brown spots on leaves, I'm hoping once it warms up it start growing more and looking healthier and any fungal stuff will start clearing up with that socal heat/sun. My peach tree has spots on it too, it's been really humid and cool and lots of fog almost every night sometimes and the plants get real wet. I think that's what's causing some of the fungal issues I'm having. I just sprayed neem oil a few days ago and sprayed some copper yesterday, hopefully that helps clear it up or at least slow its spread. Im so worried. When you spend the money you do on these trees it's like your baby, haha.
My Manilla Mango is doing great here in the Coachella Valley. No frost problems of course and it seems to love 115 degrees and up. So far seems bullet proof as you say. But I am trying to get it to spread and not grow straight up and tall. I have pruned the middle branches out but still up it goes. Containerized which I thought would help it . Got any advice? I am so glad I tripped over your videos. Great stuff.
Manila mango trees are naturally vertical. In my case, that’s an added benefit as I am able to stuff more trees in a smaller space. Specific to your situation, you can train some of the branches to become more horizontal. You’ll need to stake and tie the branches to your desired shape.
Great video!!!!! Will you eventually have to plant your mango trees inground or could you leave them in a pot indefinetly? Will the rootball overgrow the pot? Thank you
Thank you. For now, many of my mango fruit trees are in larger 25 gallon containers. This should last them for at least 10 years. I probably will end up upsizing the trees at then. If I have more yard space, I’d definitely put them in the ground.
For the Manila mango, what amendments and ratio do you use? Are they on the same watering schedule as everything else in your yard? What fertilizer and on what schedule? Thanks!
Specific to my Manila mango trees, they receive the same organic fertilizer as with my other tropical fruit trees. Keep in mind, the nutrient changes depending on the state of the tree. For example, if the Manila mango trees were fruiting or flowering, I eliminate nitrogen and increase phosphorus and potassium as well as watering. All of my trees get the same watering treatment under normal growing conditions. Amendments depends on if the tree is in container or in the ground. For in ground, it’s generally 25% sand, 25% peat moss and 50% native dirt. For containers, it’s 40% sand, 40% peat moss and 20% perlite.
I feel like people who grow mangoes want to have multiple varieties and like them all over the place 😂 I want to do the same thing and I see alot of other growers doing that too. I think mango growers should be called mango hoarders lol
The main consideration is your rootstock - what is it for you? Here in Australia the main rootstock is Kensington Pride which is earlyish and vigorous but still likes Mango type soil. Im currently growing Gomera seedlings from Canary Island that grow there in super harsh rocky ground and im hoping they will be good in clay too? Ive only had one fruit to seedling so far which i will graft King Thai to which is a Dwarfish tree. The winter soil temperature is also important too. Im currently growing my potted mangos inside over winter with grow lights to get early flowering and they are loving it and are budding now to flower.
Unfortunately, I’ve not had much success with growing many of the “designer” (Coconut Cream, etc.) mango species in the ground. All seem to not be a fan of our soil. Many of the Asian variety mango trees from the nearby tropical fruit nurseries such as Nam Doc Mai, Keo Savoy, etc are grafted onto Manila rootstocks. In previous years, I too took my mango trees indoors during the cold season, however, I stopped doing that as I feel the trees can take the cold.
@@TropicalCentralValleyYou missed my point? Yes mine take the cold but it hibernates them - Mangos like continual growth. in a climate such as us both we need very early varieties that flower not too early outside but not too late or fruit wont grow enough before winter. Try King Thai or Maha Chanok on Baily rootstock? Or another large variety. King Thai doesnt get Anthacnose or Black spot - nor does Glen or Irwin or Kwan ir Nam Doc Mai
I suppose I didn’t quite understand what you were trying to convey. I agree, as with the vast majority of tropical fruit trees, the mango trees do not go dormant when the temperature drops. However, during the winter, I also ensure my trees do not grow, as any new growth will be negatively impacted by the frost. In my climate, specific to mango trees, I don’t really have any issues with the trees blooming too early or too late. All of mine begin blooming a month or two after the last frost event. Additional, I generally pick the last set of mango fruits in the fall, and with my season, this allows the mango trees a few months to put on some new growth before winter hits.
I bought three Manila mango trees from Homedepot in early April and put them in ground around my yard. Here in the Bay area, we dont have the heat in the Spring and Summer months like the Central Valley so our mango plants grow very slowly. Basically every year, we only get one or two vegetative growth flush between the hottest months from July into September.
@@TropicalCentralValley Yup, they love heat. I have potted mangoes that I put against my house's hot southeast stucco wall and they are doing better than the mangoes in ground that are not next to a wall.
I have a Glenn in a pot that is doing good (in the Bay Area, Zone 9B). Another one that seem to be doing good so far is Malika -- I have a few other varieties (all in pot) that are hardly surviving; many others survived the winter (in a heated greenhouse), only to, unfortunately, die in Spring!
@@0anant0 In the container, it's not a problem, they flourish but the moment you put it in ground with that Florida turpentine rootstock, the growth rate tremendously slows down. I thought it was a gimmick when people talked about turpentine rootstock in California but now I see the proof.
@@Okorokanze2000 That explains why the plants I bought from Florida nurseries eventually died. I am not sure whether it was Alex from TropicalAcres or Julian from Lara Farms saying in one of the interviews that they now offer a rootstock other than turpentine for California orders. What is the reason of the slowed growth rate of turpentine rootstock in ground in California? higher pH? lower soil temperature? clay soil? Thanks!
My manila mango grown from seed keep stopping their growth after about 3-4 months. I've re-potted using 30% sand, 30% peat moss, 30% perlite, and 10% mix of compost, composted manure, worm casting, and myccorhiza. They're getting 6-8 hours of direct sunlight. It's seems to be at a complete halt, and can't produce leaves. Any tips?? These baby's look like they're dying.
My Glenn mango in ground less than a year it’s about the same size as Lowe’s Manila mango . It keeps trying to fruit, would you pull off the fruit or do you think it will be okay if I leave them on considering it’s a young tree?
In my case, I do not allow my young or newly planted trees (less than 2 years) to fruit. This enables the tree to focus on its root establishments. Doing so will allow the tree to withstand future climate issues (freezes).
I just bought manila mango from Lowe's but I don't know they grafting or air layer, do you know please let me know and do you cut the top when mango very tall without branch
I too have purchased a few Manila mango trees from Lowe’s. If yours is anything like mine, I highly suspect they are grow from seed, as Manila is true to seed. I say this because in my case, I’m unable to locate any graft joints, and being mango fruit trees, they produce fruits fairly young. I do not “pug” my mango trees and instead, need them to grow vertically tall (so I can put more trees nearby). By cutting the tree, the new branches will split into an octopus tree where you get multiple branches shooting out.
You’ll want to heavily amend the soil when planting in the ground. Keitt mangoes can be a bit picky, but I believe it’s worth a try. Mine had been doing fine, takes our summer and winter without issues.
I’m in the city of Visalia, CA, about 50 miles south of Fresno, CA. I have never lost a mango tree to the frost, though, a good number of mine have been hit by anthracnose and other pest issues.
Visalia, CA. If you’re nearing the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area. Here’s some videos I did touring some of them: Champa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour ua-cam.com/video/o1-Adgg5DKQ/v-deo.html Emily Garden Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour ua-cam.com/video/gn1JDiz-riA/v-deo.html Mimosa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour ua-cam.com/video/YfOMOSsuGIo/v-deo.html
I can’t recommend any nurseries in Northern California that may carry limited inventory of some tropical fruit trees, but I am aware that some do carry cherimoya, avocado and guava occasionally. It may be worth a days trip to visit Southern California just to whack out their huge selection of tropical fruit trees.
You have mentioned Corriente Mangos a few times in your videos. I too have a Corriente but there really is not too much information that I can find online. Can you tell me the characteristics of it as in taste, how tall they grow, how large the mango gets etc?
There’s not much information about them. They’re native to Mexico and does very well in the Central Valley. The tree is compact, almost the same size as a Manila mango tree. The fruits are slightly smaller than your Kent/Keitt mango, but soft and sweet.
Definitely, the application of elemental sulfur is a must. Some trees require it more than others (e.g. Miracle Fruit tree). Any brand should work. I’ve been using a brand from ”Tiger”.
so how come you don't plant some of the mango trees on the ground? You said June starts flowering and the fruit ripe in July/August, do they grow that quick?
Excellent question. The simple answer is, well, I’m simply out of yard space. By container growing the mango trees, this enables me to have many trees in a small confined space. Additional, bear in mind about my statement on the pickiness of soil when it comes to most mango trees. This allows me to control the growing medium and make adjustments to the soil when needed. Once bloomed, it’s only a couple of months before the mangos are harvestable.
@@TropicalCentralValley That's good to know. I wanted to plant mango trees but I Heard I would have to wait for 12 years to start bearing fruits. I don't think I want to wait for that long LOL. How many years do you have to wait for the Manila mango to give first fruit from the store bought tree which presumable grafted? I m in North part of Central Valley.
Leave burns are typically caused by the tree’s inability to uptake water and sometimes nutrients. How is your soil’s water holding capacity? Is the top inch of your soil moist to the touch, especially during the hot days?
For containers, it may help to water them a bit more frequently, to keep the roots cooler. Unlike roots in the ground, the roots in containers get super hot, especially if the sun is hitting the container.
I have not, though I may get one in the future. Although I typically only grow tropical fruit trees that I have previously eaten the fruit, from the description of it, it taste similar to a caimito.
Watering really all depends on your soil, the weather and temperature. I would water it enough to ensure the top 1 inch remains moist to the touch. Specifically, in my case, as I have an automatic watering system, all of my mango trees get watered every other hour, for about 3 minutes per session. As we head into the summer months, I will change it to every hour and may increase the minutes.
@@TropicalCentralValley Wow you water every hour in the summer? That seems like a lot of watering. I water once every week with the hose (deep watering). Are you talking about your trees in pots or in the ground? Maybe I need to increase my watering then. We do have clay soil and we are same zone as you are (I am in Southern CA). I also have a very thick layer of wood chips as mulch around all my fruit trees.
I do currently water all of my tropicals, both in ground and container grown every other hour from 8am - 7pm daily. Keep in mind, as I’m only watering all of my trees for 3 minutes, I’m likely using way less water than others who perform deep watering which to me, is quite wasteful as 95% of a trees roots are in near the top 2 feet of soil.
Before you water your mango or most in-ground plant, touch your soil to make sure the top few inches is dry and you shouldn't water it more than twice a week if you deep water. And don't forget about mulching ( Very important) .
@@Okorokanze2000 Thanks, I have a one acre lot, so it will be very expensive to put drip system, so I water by hose unfortunately; and I do have a very thick layer of mulch. I water once a week, but I think I am going to be watering twice a week from now on because I noticed that it grows more when I water more. The space where you have the trees makes a big difference. If you have a small back yard, you soil will not dry out fast, but if you have a large open space, the soil will dry out much faster. I had a house few year with a small backyard and I also had fruit trees, and I used to deep water once every 2 weeks in the summer only with no problem, but now with a much larger area, I have to water much more. Live and learn :)
Be careful planting tomatoes or other plants prone to anthracnose or powdery mildew next to your mango trees. It can transfer to the mango, especially mildew to the mango flowers and prevent fruiting.
Thanks for the tip. Luckily, or unluckily, my climate is so dry that much of the fungus pest issues are nonexistent. That said, I do have my sulfur and copper solutions ready.
I don’t find avocado trees difficult to grow. I have a Reed variety in the ground doing awesome. They’re one of the easier tropical fruit trees to grow. I particularly like the Reed variety as they are quite good and produces relatively large sized fruits.
All avocado varieties do not need another type for pollination. Thats not to say it doesn’t help, by having another type, it increases pollination by about 10%. The whole idea between needing Type A and Type B for cross pollination is a myth.
Where in CA can you get a Manila Mango fruit so you can grow the seed. I have never seen "Manila" Mango for sale? Does it have other names in the grocery store?
I’ve seen a number of ethnic grocery stores carry Manila mango fruits. If you’re in the Fresno region, TC Fresh Meat Market and SF Supermarket occasionally carries the fruits. A popular relative of the Manila mango is the Ataulfo, also marketed as Honey or Champagne mango. My local Costco sells the fruits. From the perspective of taste, it’s very close to the Manila mango. The seeds too germinate quite easily and are true to seed in that, the tree produces fruits like the one whose seed was germinated.
That’s great. I’ve been on the lookup for a Fruit Punch and Guava mango; hopefully Champa or Mimosa carries them this year. I can’t say that I’ve seen any nurseries carry the Lara variety startfruits, but it does sound interesting.
@@TropicalCentralValley If your looking for the super rare mango varieties I recommend Lara Farms from Florida. They ship to California and have around 70 varieties available. Thank you for your inspiration to grow tropicals in The Valley.
@@TropicalCentralValley ihave a backup fruit punch and guava mango tree i can sell to you . I have over 150 varieties of mangos 🥭. Love that ur addiction for mangos and tropicals are ever growing like myself .
Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals. If you’re near the Los Angeles region, there’s a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area.
I lost my rosigold mango in the frost, and I can't find any manila mango for the last few months :( do you sell your seedlings or can I buy a seed from you!?
Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals. If you’re near the Los Angeles region, there’s a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area.
I live in norcal, Daly CIty, you can visit Asian Supermarkets and purchase manila mangos, eat them, and remove the seeds from the bark. That's what I'm doing right now. I ate all 14 of the mangos in 2 week span and was able to successfully germinate them. I'm on the last stage of germinating the last 5 seeds and ready to plant them on my 27 gal tub. The great news is that the seeds are polyembryonic!
Manila Mango were the first Mangos brought to America by Mexicans in the Manila Galleon. The Manila Galleon was the first Commercial Trade between America (Mexico) and Asia (Filipinas) in 1565.
Excellent supplemental historical information.
Good content. Thanks for sharing
You’re very welcome.
i love mangoes so much
There’s nothing quite like eating a fresh mango. They’re far superior to any store bought ones.
I'm liking your strategy..Get manilas in spots where they seem to be growing really good, and then graft to them. Very good plan sir!
Thank you. Hoping to have a Frankenstein mango tree in my yard.
Thanks for sharing wow
You’re very welcome.
Hello,
Growing here in Pomona California. We've been developing our own lil fruit orchard and urban garden. After watching this video. We literally ran to get a Manila mango tree🥭 .
As you are in the Los Angeles region, almost all tropical fruit trees will thrive there, particularly the Manila mango.
I plant manila mango only to topwork and graft onto it. I have one grafted with buttercream and just grafted orange sherbet 3 weeks ago and graft took. Last week I saw another manila at Lowes and to my surprise it had a graft on top of it. I couldn't resist and purchased it with plans to graft my (Rosie gold & Mallika Florida grown with turpentine rootstock that wants to fruit every year and haven't grown an inch since planting it last year)
That’s awesome. Manila rootstocks are one of the best.
Nice video. I love your garden. I just planted a manilla here in palm springs.
Thank you.
That’s awesome. They should do great in your region.
How is your mango doing I live in palms springs also did it make it
Phenomenally well. My recent videos touched on the topic of why everyone should grow mango trees.
Your the reason I got a Manila mango last year and my ilama also . I had fruit buds this year but the second cold spirt we had killed the flowers :( . Perhaps next year. I have it in a 100gallon pot I’m scared to put it in the ground in case I decide to move one day one day. I also have a 200 gallon pot for it if it gets to big for the 100 gallon lol , both are probably over kill.
That’s awesome. In most casts, the mango trees may actually produce flowers again, if the environment is favorable.
Concerning the size of the containers, specific to the Manila mango, their tap root goes quite deep and will appreciate the additional soil, provided it’s well draining.
I planted a Manila in ground in 2012 and its about 12-14' tall now. I also have a Champagne and its going for a triple trunked shrub look at 6' tall after as many years or so. The Champagne I grew from seed. It's been bulletproof to cold or diseases. The rest of that yard is a 35 year old Subelle I planted..it always has fruit on it all year more or less. EZ grower.
That’s awesome. It’s interesting to see the difference in tree size and height given our variation in climate.
For instance, my 3 year old Manila is reaching 11 feet tall for which I attribute the growth in the summer months. They seem to thrive in my super dry heat.
Have you tried the Green Sapote or other sapodilla varieties. All of mine has been extremely cold hardy, though, not a big fan of my sun.
@@TropicalCentralValleyIts not just tall- but wide with a good sized trunk. 12 years does that even in the cool bay area.
I don't know how you do it. Are you on some kind of raised area? drains frost? Keep up the good work.
Originally, no raised mounds, etc. No frost protection either, just adequate microclimate.
Nice man I’m 21 and got my first home in socal and got some tress (one a Manila) just wanted to say never seen someone landscape the front part of the side area didn’t know it was allowed but not I got some ideas for myself 😂
That’s awesome.
I don’t know about your city’s ordinance, but in my city, the homeowners are to take care of the stripe of land between the sidewalks and street.
Down here in Socal Home Depot is selling Manila mangos for $40.00, they're just over two feet in height. Great video.
Thank you. All of my have grown relatively quick and some even produced fruits since this video.
@@TropicalCentralValley that's awesome that they grew quick and fruited. Hopefully I do a good job carrying for my potted mango trees. It's getting down into the lower 40's here in Long Beach. The Manila tree I bought today is inside. Do you think it will be able to handle the cold outside at being a very young tree? It's so rare that it gets this cold here.
It was 31° in my yard this morning, with the remaining weeks forecasted to be in the low to mid-30°’s. All of my mango, including unprotected seedlings in my yard are fine.
In your case, to err on the side of caution, I would recommend sheltering it if possible.
I just got a kesar, alphonso and manila mango tree, my manila is looking a little sad, some brown spots on leaves, I'm hoping once it warms up it start growing more and looking healthier and any fungal stuff will start clearing up with that socal heat/sun. My peach tree has spots on it too, it's been really humid and cool and lots of fog almost every night sometimes and the plants get real wet. I think that's what's causing some of the fungal issues I'm having. I just sprayed neem oil a few days ago and sprayed some copper yesterday, hopefully that helps clear it up or at least slow its spread. Im so worried. When you spend the money you do on these trees it's like your baby, haha.
That’s awesome and luckily in your case, there are a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries nearby.
My Manilla Mango is doing great here in the Coachella Valley. No frost problems of course and it seems to love 115 degrees and up. So far seems bullet proof as you say. But I am trying to get it to spread and not grow straight up and tall. I have pruned the middle branches out but still up it goes. Containerized which I thought would help it . Got any advice? I am so glad I tripped over your videos. Great stuff.
Manila mango trees are naturally vertical. In my case, that’s an added benefit as I am able to stuff more trees in a smaller space.
Specific to your situation, you can train some of the branches to become more horizontal. You’ll need to stake and tie the branches to your desired shape.
Great video!!!!! Will you eventually have to plant your mango trees inground or could you leave them in a pot indefinetly? Will the rootball overgrow the pot?
Thank you
Thank you. For now, many of my mango fruit trees are in larger 25 gallon containers. This should last them for at least 10 years. I probably will end up upsizing the trees at then. If I have more yard space, I’d definitely put them in the ground.
Thats good to know. Thank you very much.
For the Manila mango, what amendments and ratio do you use? Are they on the same watering schedule as everything else in your yard? What fertilizer and on what schedule? Thanks!
Specific to my Manila mango trees, they receive the same organic fertilizer as with my other tropical fruit trees. Keep in mind, the nutrient changes depending on the state of the tree. For example, if the Manila mango trees were fruiting or flowering, I eliminate nitrogen and increase phosphorus and potassium as well as watering.
All of my trees get the same watering treatment under normal growing conditions.
Amendments depends on if the tree is in container or in the ground. For in ground, it’s generally 25% sand, 25% peat moss and 50% native dirt. For containers, it’s 40% sand, 40% peat moss and 20% perlite.
I feel like people who grow mangoes want to have multiple varieties and like them all over the place 😂 I want to do the same thing and I see alot of other growers doing that too. I think mango growers should be called mango hoarders lol
Mango trees are one of the easier tropical fruit trees to grow, once their growing conditions are met.
The main consideration is your rootstock - what is it for you? Here in Australia the main rootstock is Kensington Pride which is earlyish and vigorous but still likes Mango type soil. Im currently growing Gomera seedlings from Canary Island that grow there in super harsh rocky ground and im hoping they will be good in clay too? Ive only had one fruit to seedling so far which i will graft King Thai to which is a Dwarfish tree. The winter soil temperature is also important too. Im currently growing my potted mangos inside over winter with grow lights to get early flowering and they are loving it and are budding now to flower.
Unfortunately, I’ve not had much success with growing many of the “designer” (Coconut Cream, etc.) mango species in the ground. All seem to not be a fan of our soil.
Many of the Asian variety mango trees from the nearby tropical fruit nurseries such as Nam Doc Mai, Keo Savoy, etc are grafted onto Manila rootstocks.
In previous years, I too took my mango trees indoors during the cold season, however, I stopped doing that as I feel the trees can take the cold.
@@TropicalCentralValleyYou missed my point? Yes mine take the cold but it hibernates them - Mangos like continual growth. in a climate such as us both we need very early varieties that flower not too early outside but not too late or fruit wont grow enough before winter. Try King Thai or Maha Chanok on Baily rootstock? Or another large variety. King Thai doesnt get Anthacnose or Black spot - nor does Glen or Irwin or Kwan ir Nam Doc Mai
I suppose I didn’t quite understand what you were trying to convey. I agree, as with the vast majority of tropical fruit trees, the mango trees do not go dormant when the temperature drops. However, during the winter, I also ensure my trees do not grow, as any new growth will be negatively impacted by the frost.
In my climate, specific to mango trees, I don’t really have any issues with the trees blooming too early or too late. All of mine begin blooming a month or two after the last frost event.
Additional, I generally pick the last set of mango fruits in the fall, and with my season, this allows the mango trees a few months to put on some new growth before winter hits.
I bought three Manila mango trees from Homedepot in early April and put them in ground around my yard. Here in the Bay area, we dont have the heat in the Spring and Summer months like the Central Valley so our mango plants grow very slowly. Basically every year, we only get one or two vegetative growth flush between the hottest months from July into September.
That’s interesting. Mango trees really do seem to like intense heat, particularly indirect sun heat.
@@TropicalCentralValley Yup, they love heat. I have potted mangoes that I put against my house's hot southeast stucco wall and they are doing better than the mangoes in ground that are not next to a wall.
I have a Glenn in a pot that is doing good (in the Bay Area, Zone 9B). Another one that seem to be doing good so far is Malika -- I have a few other varieties (all in pot) that are hardly surviving; many others survived the winter (in a heated greenhouse), only to, unfortunately, die in Spring!
@@0anant0 In the container, it's not a problem, they flourish but the moment you put it in ground with that Florida turpentine rootstock, the growth rate tremendously slows down. I thought it was a gimmick when people talked about turpentine rootstock in California but now I see the proof.
@@Okorokanze2000 That explains why the plants I bought from Florida nurseries eventually died. I am not sure whether it was Alex from TropicalAcres or Julian from Lara Farms saying in one of the interviews that they now offer a rootstock other than turpentine for California orders.
What is the reason of the slowed growth rate of turpentine rootstock in ground in California? higher pH? lower soil temperature? clay soil? Thanks!
My manila mango grown from seed keep stopping their growth after about 3-4 months. I've re-potted using 30% sand, 30% peat moss, 30% perlite, and 10% mix of compost, composted manure, worm casting, and myccorhiza. They're getting 6-8 hours of direct sunlight. It's seems to be at a complete halt, and can't produce leaves. Any tips?? These baby's look like they're dying.
My Glenn mango in ground less than a year it’s about the same size as Lowe’s Manila mango . It keeps trying to fruit, would you pull off the fruit or do you think it will be okay if I leave them on considering it’s a young tree?
In my case, I do not allow my young or newly planted trees (less than 2 years) to fruit. This enables the tree to focus on its root establishments. Doing so will allow the tree to withstand future climate issues (freezes).
Do you need multiple of these for pollination to increase yield?
No. And you don’t want too many fruits on a branch as the fruits will be smaller.
I just bought manila mango from Lowe's but I don't know they grafting or air layer, do you know please let me know and do you cut the top when mango very tall without branch
I too have purchased a few Manila mango trees from Lowe’s. If yours is anything like mine, I highly suspect they are grow from seed, as Manila is true to seed.
I say this because in my case, I’m unable to locate any graft joints, and being mango fruit trees, they produce fruits fairly young.
I do not “pug” my mango trees and instead, need them to grow vertically tall (so I can put more trees nearby). By cutting the tree, the new branches will split into an octopus tree where you get multiple branches shooting out.
What do you think of Keiit Mango? They are selling it at a Home Depot. Does it do good in Central Valley?
You’ll want to heavily amend the soil when planting in the ground. Keitt mangoes can be a bit picky, but I believe it’s worth a try. Mine had been doing fine, takes our summer and winter without issues.
How cold does it get there?
The last winters were 27°.
What part of Central Valley you locate?, I live in Lakewood, it is ok for mango.
I’m in the city of Visalia, CA, about 50 miles south of Fresno, CA. I have never lost a mango tree to the frost, though, a good number of mine have been hit by anthracnose and other pest issues.
What part of central valley you from? Just bought a manilla from someone. Where do you get your trees
Visalia, CA.
If you’re nearing the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area. Here’s some videos I did touring some of them:
Champa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
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Emily Garden Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
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Mimosa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
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@@TropicalCentralValley I'm by Modesto area, anything on this side for nursery?
I can’t recommend any nurseries in Northern California that may carry limited inventory of some tropical fruit trees, but I am aware that some do carry cherimoya, avocado and guava occasionally.
It may be worth a days trip to visit Southern California just to whack out their huge selection of tropical fruit trees.
You have mentioned Corriente Mangos a few times in your videos. I too have a Corriente but there really is not too much information that I can find online. Can you tell me the characteristics of it as in taste, how tall they grow, how large the mango gets etc?
There’s not much information about them. They’re native to Mexico and does very well in the Central Valley.
The tree is compact, almost the same size as a Manila mango tree. The fruits are slightly smaller than your Kent/Keitt mango, but soft and sweet.
@@TropicalCentralValley Thanks for the info. Slowly waiting for my first crop of Corriente here in the bay area.
That’s awesome. They’re surprisingly cold hardy. They should be great there.
Do you have to apply any sulfur into your soil to lower the PH level, and if you do what brand do you use? Thanks
Definitely, the application of elemental sulfur is a must. Some trees require it more than others (e.g. Miracle Fruit tree).
Any brand should work. I’ve been using a brand from ”Tiger”.
@@TropicalCentralValley Thanks for the reply! How do you apply it to your soil and how often? Much Appreciated!
The amount depends on your soil pH. For this, you’ll want to test it prior to applying. I generally apply it during my quarterly granular feeding.
so how come you don't plant some of the mango trees on the ground? You said June starts flowering and the fruit ripe in July/August, do they grow that quick?
Excellent question. The simple answer is, well, I’m simply out of yard space. By container growing the mango trees, this enables me to have many trees in a small confined space.
Additional, bear in mind about my statement on the pickiness of soil when it comes to most mango trees. This allows me to control the growing medium and make adjustments to the soil when needed.
Once bloomed, it’s only a couple of months before the mangos are harvestable.
@@TropicalCentralValley That's good to know. I wanted to plant mango trees but I Heard I would have to wait for 12 years to start bearing fruits. I don't think I want to wait for that long LOL. How many years do you have to wait for the Manila mango to give first fruit from the store bought tree which presumable grafted? I m in North part of Central Valley.
My two more matured Manila mango trees started producing fruit in year 3. If grown from seed, mango trees typically produce fruit from 3-6 years.
@@TropicalCentralValley I have barely begun container gardening inspired by a YTer in So Cal.
what do you suggest for leaf burn ? the edges of my leaves are burning
Leave burns are typically caused by the tree’s inability to uptake water and sometimes nutrients. How is your soil’s water holding capacity? Is the top inch of your soil moist to the touch, especially during the hot days?
@@TropicalCentralValley they're
still in a pot, I used a good potting mix but no sulpha . infact 1 is the manila mango from HD that I did'nt repot
@@TropicalCentralValley they're in full sun
and i water every 3-4 days
For containers, it may help to water them a bit more frequently, to keep the roots cooler.
Unlike roots in the ground, the roots in containers get super hot, especially if the sun is hitting the container.
@@TropicalCentralValley the black plastic may not help either ....thanks as usual !
Have you tried to grow Abiu?
I have not, though I may get one in the future. Although I typically only grow tropical fruit trees that I have previously eaten the fruit, from the description of it, it taste similar to a caimito.
I also bought Manila mango little trees from Lowes last year. How often do you water them when they are planted in ground?
Watering really all depends on your soil, the weather and temperature. I would water it enough to ensure the top 1 inch remains moist to the touch.
Specifically, in my case, as I have an automatic watering system, all of my mango trees get watered every other hour, for about 3 minutes per session. As we head into the summer months, I will change it to every hour and may increase the minutes.
@@TropicalCentralValley Wow you water every hour in the summer? That seems like a lot of watering. I water once every week with the hose (deep watering). Are you talking about your trees in pots or in the ground? Maybe I need to increase my watering then. We do have clay soil and we are same zone as you are (I am in Southern CA). I also have a very thick layer of wood chips as mulch around all my fruit trees.
I do currently water all of my tropicals, both in ground and container grown every other hour from 8am - 7pm daily. Keep in mind, as I’m only watering all of my trees for 3 minutes, I’m likely using way less water than others who perform deep watering which to me, is quite wasteful as 95% of a trees roots are in near the top 2 feet of soil.
Before you water your mango or most in-ground plant, touch your soil to make sure the top few inches is dry and you shouldn't water it more than twice a week if you deep water. And don't forget about mulching ( Very important) .
@@Okorokanze2000 Thanks, I have a one acre lot, so it will be very expensive to put drip system, so I water by hose unfortunately; and I do have a very thick layer of mulch. I water once a week, but I think I am going to be watering twice a week from now on because I noticed that it grows more when I water more. The space where you have the trees makes a big difference. If you have a small back yard, you soil will not dry out fast, but if you have a large open space, the soil will dry out much faster. I had a house few year with a small backyard and I also had fruit trees, and I used to deep water once every 2 weeks in the summer only with no problem, but now with a much larger area, I have to water much more. Live and learn :)
Be careful planting tomatoes or other plants prone to anthracnose or powdery mildew next to your mango trees. It can transfer to the mango, especially mildew to the mango flowers and prevent fruiting.
Thanks for the tip.
Luckily, or unluckily, my climate is so dry that much of the fungus pest issues are nonexistent.
That said, I do have my sulfur and copper solutions ready.
Do you have a similar recommendation for Avocado variety that is easiest to grow in 9b?
I don’t find avocado trees difficult to grow. I have a Reed variety in the ground doing awesome. They’re one of the easier tropical fruit trees to grow.
I particularly like the Reed variety as they are quite good and produces relatively large sized fruits.
@Tropical Central Valley Does the Reed need another variety for cross-pollination and fruit-set?
All avocado varieties do not need another type for pollination. Thats not to say it doesn’t help, by having another type, it increases pollination by about 10%.
The whole idea between needing Type A and Type B for cross pollination is a myth.
@@TropicalCentralValley Thank you! I love the videos. They gave me the confidence to start growing a few tropicals in the Sacramento area.
Thank you.
Where in CA can you get a Manila Mango fruit so you can grow the seed. I have never seen "Manila" Mango for sale? Does it have other names in the grocery store?
Another name is Carabao.
I’ve seen a number of ethnic grocery stores carry Manila mango fruits. If you’re in the Fresno region, TC Fresh Meat Market and SF Supermarket occasionally carries the fruits.
A popular relative of the Manila mango is the Ataulfo, also marketed as Honey or Champagne mango. My local Costco sells the fruits. From the perspective of taste, it’s very close to the Manila mango. The seeds too germinate quite easily and are true to seed in that, the tree produces fruits like the one whose seed was germinated.
That is true. It goes by many names. I only call it the Manila mango as that is what the various tropical fruit trees know them to be.
I am trying out Valencia Pride and Fruit Punch in the Central Valley. Also a Lara Carambola.
That’s great. I’ve been on the lookup for a Fruit Punch and Guava mango; hopefully Champa or Mimosa carries them this year. I can’t say that I’ve seen any nurseries carry the Lara variety startfruits, but it does sound interesting.
@@TropicalCentralValley If your looking for the super rare mango varieties I recommend Lara Farms from Florida. They ship to California and have around 70 varieties available. Thank you for your inspiration to grow tropicals in The Valley.
Thanks for the tip. I’ll have to check them out.
@@TropicalCentralValley ihave a backup fruit punch and guava mango tree i can sell to you . I have over 150 varieties of mangos 🥭. Love that ur addiction for mangos and tropicals are ever growing like myself .
@@TropicalCentralValley you should come and check out my collection lol next time ur in LA.
Do you sell any of your fruit trees?
Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals. If you’re near the Los Angeles region, there’s a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area.
I lost my rosigold mango in the frost, and I can't find any manila mango for the last few months :( do you sell your seedlings or can I buy a seed from you!?
Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals. If you’re near the Los Angeles region, there’s a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area.
@@TropicalCentralValley no, up in norcal unfortunately :( normally get my trees from mimosa nursery, but theyve been out of stock for a while
I live in norcal, Daly CIty, you can visit Asian Supermarkets and purchase manila mangos, eat them, and remove the seeds from the bark. That's what I'm doing right now. I ate all 14 of the mangos in 2 week span and was able to successfully germinate them. I'm on the last stage of germinating the last 5 seeds and ready to plant them on my 27 gal tub. The great news is that the seeds are polyembryonic!
That’s very true. I have nearly a 100% success rate with germinating Manila seeds.