There were some jump cuts..but yeah...I’m impressed more by the interviewer...that he could hold back from verbalizing his agreement...and yet still give the speaker the feeling that it’s ok to go on and on...
And was so in tune with the current challenges and threats we face going forward over the next century! And he pointed out our vulnerability to a pandemic.
Andew Tarjanyi You just called Prof. Rees a "dinosaur". Let's see if you have anything half as interesting to share with the world when you achieve his age.
I got super baked, turned on my TV, and the Raspberry Pi had been left on, and it was playing this randomly... Life is disequilibrium is what I've learned so far. I agree with him on all points except the AI/Robots reaching human levels won't take "100-100s of years"; it will be within the next 5 years, if not already.
Probably not too much will change in 5 years, but I agree that the 100+ year prediction is rather conservative. A moderate and perhaps more realistic prediction would place AI super-intelligence (human+ intelligence) in the next 20 to 30 years. But we would need to surpass the "Moore's Law" roadblock first, which is the biggest current hindrance of computing. The current technique of using smaller and smaller nm nodes will run out of steam in 2026 to 2028 at most (at a 2 to 3 nm node, using Intel's metrics), and after that the laws of physics will prevent us going smaller. Beyond these nodes you need new techniques : neuromorphic computing (which is thousands of times more power efficient and completely eliminates the Von Neumann bottleneck, but is a wholly new computing paradigm), spintronics, optical or hybrid optical/xxx computing, molecular computing, quantum computing etc etc These techniques are currently in various stages of development, from lab-only proof of concepts to prototype devices and chips. Alternatively companies can extend the current technique by moving away from silicon to III-V group semiconductors. For example they could go bigger (move back to larger nm nodes) and thus using fewer transistors, but clock the CPUs faster, since III-V semiconductors (such as InGaAs) allow that.
SETI searches for narrowband communication because we use narrowband communication but we use narrowband because early on in the radio era, the government's divided the frequency bandwidths and licensed them out. We know from Shannon's communication theories that the most information that can be transmitted would be across all frequencies and be indistinguishable from static. The only way SETI would detect a technologically advanced civilization by radio waves alone is if they are as stupid as we are and do not use radio waves efficiently. Even today, we are spreading our broadcasts across as much a frequency range as allowed by our government allotted license, it's called spread spectrum communication, WiFi is spread spectrum CDMA cellular is spread spectrum, GSM cellular is a primitive form of spread spectrum called frequency hopping. Somehow, I think that if we are within radio range of an alien civilization, they would likely be more advanced than we are and hence we would not detect them by narrowband radio communication, there may be only a hundred or two hundred year window during which a civilization progresses from narrowband to spread spectrum hence a very low probability of detecting a civilization using radio waves in such a stupid fashion.
Do you know why the licence divide? I purchase wireless microphones good quality.They recalled the frequency bandwidths licence on them, making them illegal. They used the same frequency spectrum as the mobile phone. Coincidence is that it is the same as the frequency spectrum for the human brain wave. Sorry to change the subject. Im looking for shannons com theories next.
When he was talking about the money Yuri Milner had invested in the search for ET, he should have said 10 to the power 7 dollars per year for ten years.
i feel there is some agreed perceived benefits to having artificial means to potentially extend health or longevity. in some ways giving yourself a mechanical means of an 'off switch" may wind up hindering more in the long run. perhaps we'll learn it traps us somehow within this particular realm where only the natural body could have transversed. what if some people are headed in the wrong direction? if the most exciting and truly manipulative environments are known to be in the subatomic world, perhaps the disconnect in larger masses has to do with a break or multiple breaks in a chain of communication. A sort of fiber optic effect from the smallest particles-organisms- on up. A human with more diverse and sizable variation in MORE organic parts may be another option... it may take some adjusting to get used to some of the bigger sub-organisms we've become accustomed to do without. ;)
How happy are humans producing their own destruction. What kind of life we would have with nothing to do, watching machines taking over everything we still perform, as they are more accurate, smarter (extremely large data processing), never getting tired, or bored and so on. If we are not very careful with this, it will literally be the end our species.
Listening to the mainstream, for me is like nails down a blackboard. I remain to be convinced, for example, that "big bang" is not the academic equivalent of "flat Earth". As he said, "we can only measure as far as we can see". But that aside, How do traditional academics generate originality? The ability to produce original concepts, ideas and even paradigms has been the preserve of non-traditional approaches to problem-solving. And I have no idea why a dinosaur such as this is remotely qualified to provide insight into the existential problems in understanding a "cyborg" "AI" hybrid species (if the term "species" is even relevant in this context, which I strongly suspect it isn't). The existential uncertainty associated with the event horizon of the singularity cannot be understood from a technical or even scientific perspective but from a uniquely existential perspective, as the existential consideration is the common denominator upon which all other considerations are dependent. All are absolutely free to view the future as they see fit, but be in no doubt, that this indulgence has a rather limited shelf-life. And in reality, what we would like to believe, has absolutely no effect on reality whatsoever. Belief has not directed reality in the past and there is no indication that it will do so in the future. If human consciousness is to survive the emergence of a conscious "AI" then it will only be able to do so by making the appropriate adaptations to its (human) consciousness. At some point in the future of human consciousness, familiarity associated with our five senses will prove redundant as will all associated experiences. Those claiming to be scientists or scientifically minded who are offended by the above, without adequate appreciation of the content, are neither scientist nor scientific thinkers, but intellectually infertile and sterile of any faculty remotely resembling curiosity which is the very foundation of intelligence. And science without intelligence has no function.
I love that his biggest fear is environmentalists getting their hands on biological weapons, rather than religious extremists or the like. It's just a bit interesting.
Really like listening to this learned man... But, I wish he would come up for air sometimes; allow what he said to be taken in, processed.. and by doing so give the listener/interviewer a chance to pose a question. He just goes like a runaway train.. flying past each stop until he gets to the end. Surely a short pit stop..would be of benefit. Anyway, maybe I'm wrong. I still enjoy listening. Peace
'We can observe many many galaxies up to 13 billion light years from us' - this is not correct, as I understand it, because the size of the observable universe must take into account the expansion of space, giving a figure of 46.5 billion light years in any direction (see Wikipedia, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe#Misconceptions_on_its_size). The figure of 13 billion (or 13.8) is derived mistakenly from the age of the universe. Of course, this is a very thought-provoking meditation nevertheless.
I wonder whats his thoughts about sex robot A.I people are thinking they have the highest potential to become a terminator like robot. seriously if you break down all the facts emotions like programming manufactured flaws to make them seem more real plus the abuse and potential high demand and the ability to rise capital. The discreet nature of the industry. And so on and so on.
AI and Robots are already bored. You just have to check the idle time routine in their CPUs XD As a side note, on the control of AIs and algorithms, we have reached an unprecedented level of careless actions especially in the finance sector. Stock markets are almost entirely piloted by AIs and most people in the business don't even know what those are doing anymore.
So the implication is that individual humans DO know what they're doing with the stock market? or even worse, crowds of humans? I'm not disagreeing with the bit about carelessness in the stock market, just making a point
Well, the advantage about human beings being careless with the stock market is, when something goes wrong, you still have someone to blame for it. But when it's the AI which causes, for instance, rice prices going so high that it makes some poor chinese families starve to death. Who do you blame in that case? You are not going to send the AI to jail, right? So when it gets out of control, it can cause so much havok on the real economy but at the same time it creates on a whole new level of guilt dependencies, which are in essence not reachable. This kind of system could provoke the end of the human race without any human even participating.
I see what you mean, but I'll continue to play Devil's Advocate and reply by saying that that seems like an issue that could be effectively solved by giving financial regulators the power to intervene and/or lay blame and repercussions with the owner/licensor/user of the AI. It is just software after all, so there is a strong argument to treat it as just another tool, which means responsibility lies with the person using it.
Fertility control might be the answer to a very big problem for planet earth: the worthless oxygen wasters. (2) after eyeing the comments: this dude is a glorious example of a "dinosaur" which is actually beneficial for mammals ...
I just watched this man for the first time on this vid, " ua-cam.com/video/3qF26MbYgOA/v-deo.html ", i loved it, I can't wait for a follow up in 10 years, with more answers... I am totally on board with the multiverse... Thank you Sir Martin Rees for your beautiful expression words. I love listening to you.
Couldn't agree more, but what you've said highlights the problem if you inverse it. "If the world's governments stick to a corrupt and malleable system of currencies, you'll continue to see only a few benefit, and the bleak future of continued inequality." I've been into bitcoin since early 2011, giving me thousands of hours to think, speak, and get frustrated with people about it. Most, no matter how intelligent, can't quite grasp the idea, but there are some who do, and they seem to get it right away. It's like a certain tiny percentage of the population is wired differently, with the rest happy to swallow whatever the government tells them. It's like they see for a moment that there's an issue, then... squirrel!! They are distracted by something shiny. The more you understand the economics of crypto, the more you understand the economics of the current system. Ignorance is bliss as they say, because for me at least, having my eyes opened has been quite painful. Seeing the connections, the corruption, and the lies that people don't care to question, all gnaw at me daily.
And in one day you could lose it all because magnetic solarstorms what we had in end of 1800 century. No satellites or internet after that. No computers and cellphones.
look What is the Void what is the Universe expanding into to Wheir did it come from ansqer this and you will start to understanding that the Manifestation of the Big bang originated within it
Sterling Swart That's why the internet is good. In order to express yourself clearly, you are forced to compose lucid sentences. Cut the guy some slack, he's trying.
No, wait... about the history of US spaceflight efforts - it was peak cheap oil/energy which terminated massive space ventures - not being able to sustain a massive space effort in the midst of other growing expenses. The US peaked in oil production in 72, causing it to spend on oil (energy) imports, almost the same time Apollo ended - also the Shuttle was too expensive (they were retired with 60% of their design life remaining) - and by expensive one should read: not enough cheap energy to waste on that bit of complex technology (e.g., Tainter ua-cam.com/video/0KeY1dIPi8k/v-deo.html and Tainter [1990]). Thus, as an ancillary point, Western Civilization is currently in rapid decline. Ah, glorify Musk - well, that is popular in the US, anyway - if you only knew what he's actually doing! But then, of course, the whole US government is doing very bad things. The future sure isn't going to be pretty for most folks...
He has earn't an opinion. And he has touched on a fair few things i did not think he would. Maybe he is from Mars, an odd looking fellow. Easy good listen.
@@elizabethbeveridge4550 He is very much part of the new world order, he rightly said in the past that the multiverse theory is nothing but pure speculation , now he has to tow the line , as well as his other beliefs , pity , he has got a good brain that has been corrupted big time .
Asking about sin, then referencing the manual that describes sin is self referential. Try to realize the truth...there is no sin. Then you'll see that it is not reality that bends, it is only yourself.
" The fool hath said in his heart . there is no God." JUde 1:4 " For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."
2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
Ken Bell All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster! The one true God! Just let his noodley appendages intertwine with your being to receive enlightenment! Though it also helps if you wear a colander on your head at least 10 hours a day to get his physic messages! May the meatballs be with you! Amen!
I love how he talks with a smile on his face, he's not working, he's enjoying every moment of this talk.
@Hitogokochi Are you Christian?
The dude just spoke for 50 minutes straight.
Exactly what I thought. Impressive. I can barely speak two sentences without stumbling.
There were some jump cuts..but yeah...I’m impressed more by the interviewer...that he could hold back from verbalizing his agreement...and yet still give the speaker the feeling that it’s ok to go on and on...
Yes! And made sense in every single one of them! When did a politician last do that hmm? EVer?
And was so in tune with the current challenges and threats we face going forward over the next century! And he pointed out our vulnerability to a pandemic.
No. He is not dude. He is Sir Martin Rees. Dude is in Big Lebowski.
Andew Tarjanyi
You just called Prof. Rees a "dinosaur". Let's see if you have anything half as interesting to share with the world when you achieve his age.
Hes a fucking dinosaur get over it
"This is the Post-Human era. We've become nothing but consumers, calculators and copulators." - Fr. Thomas Hopko, of blessed memory.
Long live Martin Rees!
Professor Rees certainly has wide-ranging knowledge even about subjects, not in his field. Extremely sharp mind even into old age.
Love to drink a couple of beers with this guy.
best channel on youtube
This video made for very good listening!!
Wow, I hope I can still be this up to date with the latest technological developments and global threats and challenges we face. An amazing mind.
I got super baked, turned on my TV, and the Raspberry Pi had been left on, and it was playing this randomly...
Life is disequilibrium is what I've learned so far.
I agree with him on all points except the AI/Robots reaching human levels won't take "100-100s of years"; it will be within the next 5 years, if not already.
Probably not too much will change in 5 years, but I agree that the 100+ year prediction is rather conservative. A moderate and perhaps more realistic prediction would place AI super-intelligence (human+ intelligence) in the next 20 to 30 years. But we would need to surpass the "Moore's Law" roadblock first, which is the biggest current hindrance of computing. The current technique of using smaller and smaller nm nodes will run out of steam in 2026 to 2028 at most (at a 2 to 3 nm node, using Intel's metrics), and after that the laws of physics will prevent us going smaller.
Beyond these nodes you need new techniques : neuromorphic computing (which is thousands of times more power efficient and completely eliminates the Von Neumann bottleneck, but is a wholly new computing paradigm), spintronics, optical or hybrid optical/xxx computing, molecular computing, quantum computing etc etc These techniques are currently in various stages of development, from lab-only proof of concepts to prototype devices and chips.
Alternatively companies can extend the current technique by moving away from silicon to III-V group semiconductors. For example they could go bigger (move back to larger nm nodes) and thus using fewer transistors, but clock the CPUs faster, since III-V semiconductors (such as InGaAs) allow that.
SETI searches for narrowband communication because we use narrowband communication but we use narrowband because early on in the radio era, the government's divided the frequency bandwidths and licensed them out. We know from Shannon's communication theories that the most information that can be transmitted would be across all frequencies and be indistinguishable from static. The only way SETI would detect a technologically advanced civilization by radio waves alone is if they are as stupid as we are and do not use radio waves efficiently. Even today, we are spreading our broadcasts across as much a frequency range as allowed by our government allotted license, it's called spread spectrum communication, WiFi is spread spectrum CDMA cellular is spread spectrum, GSM cellular is a primitive form of spread spectrum called frequency hopping. Somehow, I think that if we are within radio range of an alien civilization, they would likely be more advanced than we are and hence we would not detect them by narrowband radio communication, there may be only a hundred or two hundred year window during which a civilization progresses from narrowband to spread spectrum hence a very low probability of detecting a civilization using radio waves in such a stupid fashion.
Do you know why the licence divide? I purchase wireless microphones good quality.They recalled the frequency bandwidths licence on them, making them illegal. They used the same frequency spectrum as the mobile phone. Coincidence is that it is the same as the frequency spectrum for the human brain wave. Sorry to change the subject. Im looking for shannons com theories next.
When he was talking about the money Yuri Milner had invested in the search for ET, he should have said 10 to the power 7 dollars per year for ten years.
Hold Daddy's hand at the fair. Getting lost in this universe can cost millions of years of painful separation.
We're not going to wait for Mars colonization to begin the Posthuman era. The acceleration of the technology won't permit that kind of limitation.
Great upload. Thanks very much. This Prof. Rees was very inspiring.
great guy
I wonder what Martin Rees thinks about the Covid-19 possible Attack ?
i feel there is some agreed perceived benefits to having artificial means to potentially extend health or longevity. in some ways giving yourself a mechanical means of an 'off switch" may wind up hindering more in the long run. perhaps we'll learn it traps us somehow within this particular realm where only the natural body could have transversed. what if some people are headed in the wrong direction? if the most exciting and truly manipulative environments are known to be in the subatomic world, perhaps the disconnect in larger masses has to do with a break or multiple breaks in a chain of communication. A sort of fiber optic effect from the smallest particles-organisms- on up. A human with more diverse and sizable variation in MORE organic parts may be another option... it may take some adjusting to get used to some of the bigger sub-organisms we've become accustomed to do without. ;)
How happy are humans producing their own destruction. What kind of life we would have with nothing to do, watching machines taking over everything we still perform, as they are more accurate, smarter (extremely large data processing), never getting tired, or bored and so on. If we are not very careful with this, it will literally be the end our species.
Listening to the mainstream, for me is like nails down a blackboard. I remain to be convinced, for example, that "big bang" is not the academic equivalent of "flat Earth". As he said, "we can only measure as far as we can see". But that aside, How do traditional academics generate originality? The ability to produce original concepts, ideas and even paradigms has been the preserve of non-traditional approaches to problem-solving. And I have no idea why a dinosaur such as this is remotely qualified to provide insight into the existential problems in understanding a "cyborg" "AI" hybrid species (if the term "species" is even relevant in this context, which I strongly suspect it isn't).
The existential uncertainty associated with the event horizon of the singularity cannot be understood from a technical or even scientific perspective but from a uniquely existential perspective, as the existential consideration is the common denominator upon which all other considerations are dependent.
All are absolutely free to view the future as they see fit, but be in no doubt, that this indulgence has a rather limited shelf-life. And in reality, what we would like to believe, has absolutely no effect on reality whatsoever. Belief has not directed reality in the past and there is no indication that it will do so in the future.
If human consciousness is to survive the emergence of a conscious "AI" then it will only be able to do so by making the appropriate adaptations to its (human) consciousness. At some point in the future of human consciousness, familiarity associated with our five senses will prove redundant as will all associated experiences.
Those claiming to be scientists or scientifically minded who are offended by the above, without adequate appreciation of the content, are neither scientist nor scientific thinkers, but intellectually infertile and sterile of any faculty remotely resembling curiosity which is the very foundation of intelligence. And science without intelligence has no function.
So you are the smartest man on earth. Good to meet you.
I wonder how long this guy has studied the sciences and how many papers he's published... Unlike the dinosaur in the video.
Great Talk
I love that his biggest fear is environmentalists getting their hands on biological weapons, rather than religious extremists or the like. It's just a bit interesting.
Bio hackers? was it. Brain jackers, weaponising the technology, just like those running the show.
Humbleness is out of the window with these type of scientists.... They wiil eventually find the truth. Unfortunately, they can't come back to tell us.
'humbleness' is cringing abject fear. |I'll have none of it.
Really like listening to this learned man... But, I wish he would come up for air sometimes; allow what he said to be taken in, processed.. and by doing so give the listener/interviewer a chance to pose a question.
He just goes like a runaway train.. flying past each stop until he gets to the end.
Surely a short pit stop..would be of benefit.
Anyway, maybe I'm wrong. I still enjoy listening.
Peace
Tip: Press pause.
'We can observe many many galaxies up to 13 billion light years from us' - this is not correct, as I understand it, because the size of the observable universe must take into account the expansion of space, giving a figure of 46.5 billion light years in any direction (see Wikipedia, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe#Misconceptions_on_its_size). The figure of 13 billion (or 13.8) is derived mistakenly from the age of the universe.
Of course, this is a very thought-provoking meditation nevertheless.
You'll find he's right. And not just because he was once a prof of mine!
The future will be great😁
Big "bang" is occurring at every instant (in the brain of those who think with their heart) :)
I wonder whats his thoughts about sex robot A.I people are thinking they have the highest potential to become a terminator like robot. seriously if you break down all the facts emotions like programming manufactured flaws to make them seem more real plus the abuse and potential high demand and the ability to rise capital. The discreet nature of the industry. And so on and so on.
AI and Robots are already bored. You just have to check the idle time routine in their CPUs XD As a side note, on the control of AIs and algorithms, we have reached an unprecedented level of careless actions especially in the finance sector. Stock markets are almost entirely piloted by AIs and most people in the business don't even know what those are doing anymore.
So the implication is that individual humans DO know what they're doing with the stock market? or even worse, crowds of humans? I'm not disagreeing with the bit about carelessness in the stock market, just making a point
Well, the advantage about human beings being careless with the stock market is, when something goes wrong, you still have someone to blame for it. But when it's the AI which causes, for instance, rice prices going so high that it makes some poor chinese families starve to death. Who do you blame in that case? You are not going to send the AI to jail, right? So when it gets out of control, it can cause so much havok on the real economy but at the same time it creates on a whole new level of guilt dependencies, which are in essence not reachable. This kind of system could provoke the end of the human race without any human even participating.
I see what you mean, but I'll continue to play Devil's Advocate and reply by saying that that seems like an issue that could be effectively solved by giving financial regulators the power to intervene and/or lay blame and repercussions with the owner/licensor/user of the AI. It is just software after all, so there is a strong argument to treat it as just another tool, which means responsibility lies with the person using it.
There needs to be humans watching for anomalies
Amazing
Fertility control might be the answer to a very big problem for planet earth: the worthless oxygen wasters. (2) after eyeing the comments: this dude is a glorious example of a "dinosaur" which is actually beneficial for mammals ...
If reality or this world is a simulation then it may face deletion by the god of the simulation if things arent going well.
I want them to hurry up and flick the switch.
I just watched this man for the first time on this vid, " ua-cam.com/video/3qF26MbYgOA/v-deo.html ", i loved it, I can't wait for a follow up in 10 years, with more answers... I am totally on board with the multiverse... Thank you Sir Martin Rees for your beautiful expression words. I love listening to you.
The evolution of intelligence isn't inevidible, but it is likely given enough time
Bull .
When all the world's government's buy into Bitcoin Tron and crypto currency you'll start to see a better future for everyone equally
Couldn't agree more, but what you've said highlights the problem if you inverse it. "If the world's governments stick to a corrupt and malleable system of currencies, you'll continue to see only a few benefit, and the bleak future of continued inequality."
I've been into bitcoin since early 2011, giving me thousands of hours to think, speak, and get frustrated with people about it. Most, no matter how intelligent, can't quite grasp the idea, but there are some who do, and they seem to get it right away. It's like a certain tiny percentage of the population is wired differently, with the rest happy to swallow whatever the government tells them. It's like they see for a moment that there's an issue, then... squirrel!! They are distracted by something shiny.
The more you understand the economics of crypto, the more you understand the economics of the current system. Ignorance is bliss as they say, because for me at least, having my eyes opened has been quite painful. Seeing the connections, the corruption, and the lies that people don't care to question, all gnaw at me daily.
And in one day you could lose it all because magnetic solarstorms what we had in end of 1800 century. No satellites or internet after that. No computers and cellphones.
Or creator !
compartmentalized
look What is the Void what is the Universe expanding into to Wheir did it come from ansqer this and you will start to understanding that the Manifestation of the Big bang originated within it
What do you think?
What grade did you get in English? Cuz fuck you can't type worth a damn.
Sterling Swart
That's why the internet is good.
In order to express yourself clearly, you are forced to compose lucid sentences.
Cut the guy some slack, he's trying.
Not giving a chance of a God !!!?
No, wait... about the history of US spaceflight efforts - it was peak cheap oil/energy which terminated massive space ventures - not being able to sustain a massive space effort in the midst of other growing expenses. The US peaked in oil production in 72, causing it to spend on oil (energy) imports, almost the same time Apollo ended - also the Shuttle was too expensive (they were retired with 60% of their design life remaining) - and by expensive one should read: not enough cheap energy to waste on that bit of complex technology (e.g., Tainter ua-cam.com/video/0KeY1dIPi8k/v-deo.html and Tainter [1990]). Thus, as an ancillary point, Western Civilization is currently in rapid decline.
Ah, glorify Musk - well, that is popular in the US, anyway - if you only knew what he's actually doing! But then, of course, the whole US government is doing very bad things. The future sure isn't going to be pretty for most folks...
Again , pure speculation .
He has earn't an opinion. And he has touched on a fair few things i did not think he would. Maybe he is from Mars, an odd looking fellow. Easy good listen.
@@elizabethbeveridge4550 He is very much part of the new world order, he rightly said in the past that the multiverse theory is nothing but pure speculation , now he has to tow the line , as well as his other beliefs , pity , he has got a good brain that has been corrupted big time .
@@patrick7775 that explains your comment. Thanks for that. Id never seen him before.
@@elizabethbeveridge4550 I wish you well .
What about your sin sir? Hebrews 9:27 " And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment . "
Asking about sin, then referencing the manual that describes sin is self referential. Try to realize the truth...there is no sin. Then you'll see that it is not reality that bends, it is only yourself.
Post proof that the bible was written thru the work of your God.
" The fool hath said in his heart . there is no God." JUde 1:4 " For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."
2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
" Hell from beneath is moved to meet thee at thy coming."
if you want to find a Extra Teristeral Look at Christians we have the Holy spirit that is not of this World ahhh Dahhhhh
Really? Where. I wanna probe the sucka and get some data.
Seek JESUS CHRIST while He may be found. Last days warning!
lol
I prefer Shiva!
Ken Bell All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster! The one true God! Just let his noodley appendages intertwine with your being to receive enlightenment! Though it also helps if you wear a colander on your head at least 10 hours a day to get his physic messages! May the meatballs be with you! Amen!
Daves Reality
www.piratefish.net
Ken Bell whats this ? A bony fish ?
stupid future talks, when people aren't able to earn to buy food.