Armin Hirmer’s channel has a lot of instructional videos. Also NuSensei shoots Asiatic bow from time to time. A thumb ring as opposed to a leather guard may help.
Props for admitting any ignorance, you don’t pretend you’re an expert and you have a vibe of someone who honestly wants to learn. I’m an instructor for this type of archery but am surrounded by recurve and compound archers, and sometimes it’s exhausting dealing with people who try to “fix” any archery style just because they’ve never seen it before. I did once have a bow like that, it actually cracked in the limb only 2 or 3 months since getting it. I also personally wouldn’t trust any kit that gives you arrows with vanes instead of fletchings, seeing as how your hand is now the shelf. But hey, it got you interested and that’s what’s important. Just be careful with that high draw weight. You were right, every asiatic shooter should start at 30
Hey man, just stumbled across your channel and really like your video style and personality. As nice as it is to see an affordable “Eastern style” archery set out there, I would say that a lot of the things with this kit impede a beginning (to thumb release) archer’s journey from the start. For one, that bow probably isn’t gonna give you the smoothness of draw that you would want when beginning thumb draw, as getting a much longer draw length is one of the advantages of shooting this way, at least in my opinion. Second, vanes instead of feathers are really hard to get consistency with because if you don’t do perfect khatra every time then those vanes are going to smack the arrow pass. For the money, I would highly recommend either the Tatar bow or the Genthis Khan (Early Mongolian design) bow from Alibow. And theres plenty of cheaper carbon arrows in the 600 to 500 spine range with feathers out there on eBay or Amazon. And I would highly recommend getting a Vermil plastic thumb ring (especially the Lantern ring) that is properly fitted to your thumb, and switching between shooting with your bare thumb and the ring, to get a feel of the string and build up more strength in your thumb until you get sore, the practice with the ring. Shooting with a bow that’s around 30# @ 28” will allow you to better learn to shoot with a 30” to 32” draw length and get more power and performance out of your bow/shooting style. Also, one thing I would like to point out is that bringing your index and middle fingers around the string when shooting with thumb release could very much be impeding your release. And since you’re not drawing the bow as far as you could, it may not show as much as it would if you drew past the ear. Typically when shooting thumb release, you typically want to try and keep your arrow and thumb in line with your ear lobe or jaw muscle the entire time you’re settling into the last few inches of your draw. Slavic/Persian style draw is a great way to also practice shooting on the right side of the bow, but using your fingers to give your thumb a break, and it still allows you to keep the arrow held to the bow while moving or riding. Armin Hirmer is probably the absolute best UA-camr to go to for everything on this subject. Justin Ma from the Way of Archery also has an insane amount of info on proper form and other things. But I would highly recommend the Genghis Khan in 30# weight from Alibow if you really want to shoot a more historical Mongolian style bow (not to be a history nerd but that bow you’ve got there is more of a Hungarian style bow) that can take lots of punishment. Also, you might want to look into other methods of stringing the bow besides the step through method, as Asiatic style bows are usually more prone to twisting in lower poundages than longbows. Anyways, I look forward to seeing more of your archery videos and journey, and I hope I haven’t made your head spin with an overload on information lol. If you have any other questions or anything else you wanna discuss that’s within my knowledge, I’d be more than happy to help out! Take care and God bless.
I likw thumb draw. Though an Ottoman style thumb ring made of bone etc might be more comfortable for you long run. Plus i find it easier to use. Btw thumb draw also reduces string roll that is caused by a 2 or 3 finger draw which will throw your shot off to one side.
Be more interesting to see you ad another notch on your belt to master some of the new stuff coming out without fakery shots like here❤You’ve snatched the pebble out off my hand now it’s time to conquer the unknown 😎
Morning LT. DAN... You'll find that all types of older traditional bows are a damn BLAST to shoot. And habit forming as good sex. Enjoy the day youngster
LT DAN I'm gonna take your word on the cheap tracker as a thrower. As I keep my original in my go bag. Kukri's everywhere else. Lol it's an addiction. We shall see how she throws. If it's ten pounds of moose shit in a two pound bag... I will give shit till your dying day . LT DAN...LOL Enjoy your Sunday.
@@411Outdoors now I am no expert, but I really enjoyed the video from Modern Rogue where they brought in a guy to teach them this form of archery (there's some fun information there) : ua-cam.com/video/6lf9q6OQse0/v-deo.html
@@411Outdoors no right hand side i think. Either way its outside. Dont ask me how the holds three arrows with his string hand either. He loads the nock so fast!! Like 3 direct hits in one jump.
according to you, you don't have any technical basis : use the same profile attitude than olympic archers with your traditional bows, full draw (always) then you will be able to ancher, wait one second before you release if it's impossible to stay 2 seconds before release, the bow is too strong for you it's not becaus a bow is affordable that you don't need any precision, and for me precision with a traditionnal bow is between 25-35 meters (50 with an olympic recurve) courage !
I just noticed....411 isn't a reference tothe missing 411 is it? That is so scary but all the kore reason to know your survival SERE and tactical self defence bushcraft navigation skills..... stay safe my brother remember demkns tesmble at the name of Christ 🙏🙌✝️😊🤜🤛
Archery is always a serious as well fun sport to game in , for longer distance shots you do need to consider the wind speed , cross winds and also the drop angle as the arrow tends to dip a bit due to wind friction and resistance. Do try out indian archery style too you might find it interesting, as archery was extensively used in indian history if like to do the research. It would be awesome if you can get hands on the Rambo bow and arrows too😊.
Armin Hirmer’s channel has a lot of instructional videos. Also NuSensei shoots Asiatic bow from time to time. A thumb ring as opposed to a leather guard may help.
I really like those thumb rings👍
Thanks again for your review always enjoy them
My pleasure! Thank you!
Love your channel Daniel, your approach to learning things is very pragmatic. I value your insight, thanks man.
Appreciate you bro!
Alan Odinson is the man...Start closer to the target ..then work back till your accuracy improves
Props for admitting any ignorance, you don’t pretend you’re an expert and you have a vibe of someone who honestly wants to learn. I’m an instructor for this type of archery but am surrounded by recurve and compound archers, and sometimes it’s exhausting dealing with people who try to “fix” any archery style just because they’ve never seen it before. I did once have a bow like that, it actually cracked in the limb only 2 or 3 months since getting it. I also personally wouldn’t trust any kit that gives you arrows with vanes instead of fletchings, seeing as how your hand is now the shelf. But hey, it got you interested and that’s what’s important. Just be careful with that high draw weight. You were right, every asiatic shooter should start at 30
Thanks so much for the info and for sharing! I’m decent with my recurve bow, but this is new territory for me lol
Thanks Daniel 🏹
Absolutely love this channel watchjng from Perth western Australia brother
Thank you so much!
Love This Thanks Dan ❤🤙
Hey man, just stumbled across your channel and really like your video style and personality. As nice as it is to see an affordable “Eastern style” archery set out there, I would say that a lot of the things with this kit impede a beginning (to thumb release) archer’s journey from the start. For one, that bow probably isn’t gonna give you the smoothness of draw that you would want when beginning thumb draw, as getting a much longer draw length is one of the advantages of shooting this way, at least in my opinion. Second, vanes instead of feathers are really hard to get consistency with because if you don’t do perfect khatra every time then those vanes are going to smack the arrow pass. For the money, I would highly recommend either the Tatar bow or the Genthis Khan (Early Mongolian design) bow from Alibow. And theres plenty of cheaper carbon arrows in the 600 to 500 spine range with feathers out there on eBay or Amazon. And I would highly recommend getting a Vermil plastic thumb ring (especially the Lantern ring) that is properly fitted to your thumb, and switching between shooting with your bare thumb and the ring, to get a feel of the string and build up more strength in your thumb until you get sore, the practice with the ring. Shooting with a bow that’s around 30# @ 28” will allow you to better learn to shoot with a 30” to 32” draw length and get more power and performance out of your bow/shooting style. Also, one thing I would like to point out is that bringing your index and middle fingers around the string when shooting with thumb release could very much be impeding your release. And since you’re not drawing the bow as far as you could, it may not show as much as it would if you drew past the ear. Typically when shooting thumb release, you typically want to try and keep your arrow and thumb in line with your ear lobe or jaw muscle the entire time you’re settling into the last few inches of your draw. Slavic/Persian style draw is a great way to also practice shooting on the right side of the bow, but using your fingers to give your thumb a break, and it still allows you to keep the arrow held to the bow while moving or riding. Armin Hirmer is probably the absolute best UA-camr to go to for everything on this subject. Justin Ma from the Way of Archery also has an insane amount of info on proper form and other things. But I would highly recommend the Genghis Khan in 30# weight from Alibow if you really want to shoot a more historical Mongolian style bow (not to be a history nerd but that bow you’ve got there is more of a Hungarian style bow) that can take lots of punishment. Also, you might want to look into other methods of stringing the bow besides the step through method, as Asiatic style bows are usually more prone to twisting in lower poundages than longbows. Anyways, I look forward to seeing more of your archery videos and journey, and I hope I haven’t made your head spin with an overload on information lol. If you have any other questions or anything else you wanna discuss that’s within my knowledge, I’d be more than happy to help out! Take care and God bless.
Thanks so much! You as well🙂. Excellent info!
Good deal! Thanks
Ya está incluído en mi lista de deseos para navidad, te felicito por la gran explicación que das del producto, gracias
You need a pony tail and an ear ring to pull off the Mongolian thing , your a 3rd there with the hair cut , nice vid i like that style of bow 👍
That would be cool haha
I likw thumb draw. Though an Ottoman style thumb ring made of bone etc might be more comfortable for you long run. Plus i find it easier to use. Btw thumb draw also reduces string roll that is caused by a 2 or 3 finger draw which will throw your shot off to one side.
Good info bro
Good info bro
Try it mounted... In Canada mounted archery is de-facto forbidden, but there are enthusiasts doing it bicycle-mounted :)
Sweet!
The bow holster also goes on your waist. Just letting you know. :)
Gotcha 👍 brand new to this world haha
Be more interesting to see you ad another notch on your belt to master some of the new stuff coming out without fakery shots like here❤You’ve snatched the pebble out off my hand now it’s time to conquer the unknown 😎
Haha what’s fakery shots?
@@411Outdoors No fakery here on this channel ❤️
@@SpitSharp thanks brother 🙂👍
Morning LT. DAN... You'll find that all types of older traditional bows are a damn BLAST to shoot. And habit forming as good sex. Enjoy the day youngster
LT DAN I'm gonna take your word on the cheap tracker as a thrower. As I keep my original in my go bag. Kukri's everywhere else. Lol it's an addiction. We shall see how she throws. If it's ten pounds of moose shit in a two pound bag... I will give shit till your dying day . LT DAN...LOL Enjoy your Sunday.
When a bullets over.... Beginning a new indian style war...Do you have a crossbow?💘
I sure don’t l. It’s in the future for sure
How did you know I just started recurve bow archery!?!?! Lol 😂
had a feeling I guess haha!
@@411Outdoors now I am no expert, but I really enjoyed the video from Modern Rogue where they brought in a guy to teach them this form of archery (there's some fun information there) : ua-cam.com/video/6lf9q6OQse0/v-deo.html
Hey you should learn the mongolian way of shooting on the other side of the bow. Like lars
Does he shoot it from the left side?
@@411Outdoors no right hand side i think. Either way its outside. Dont ask me how the holds three arrows with his string hand either. He loads the nock so fast!! Like 3 direct hits in one jump.
@@nathangrueber9834 oh yeah, he’s very fast
according to you, you don't have any technical basis :
use the same profile attitude than olympic archers with your traditional bows, full draw (always) then you will be able to ancher, wait one second before you release
if it's impossible to stay 2 seconds before release, the bow is too strong for you
it's not becaus a bow is affordable that you don't need any precision, and for me precision with a traditionnal bow is between 25-35 meters (50 with an olympic recurve)
courage !
Mongolian bows are still a struggle to to me. I’d be interested in trying more
I just noticed....411 isn't a reference tothe missing 411 is it? That is so scary but all the kore reason to know your survival SERE and tactical self defence bushcraft navigation skills..... stay safe my brother remember demkns tesmble at the name of Christ 🙏🙌✝️😊🤜🤛
411 means two things. Number one: information and number two it’s a reference the first Thessalonians 4:11🙂
You should have tried shooting it on a horse.
Archery is always a serious as well fun sport to game in , for longer distance shots you do need to consider the wind speed , cross winds and also the drop angle as the arrow tends to dip a bit due to wind friction and resistance. Do try out indian archery style too you might find it interesting, as archery was extensively used in indian history if like to do the research. It would be awesome if you can get hands on the Rambo bow and arrows too😊.